Solder Over: Transform Your Toaster Oven In To A Solder Reflow Oven

[@haze42082]

I love the comedic intro's....Ben Heck is the man!

[@slaquers]

lol great little intro story on the toaster, I been watching your show on 'n off but just recently started learning electronics on a basic level, and as such, just noticed how your show is insanely great, love the format.

[@thomasjhouck]

Just thought it would be worth mentioning, just in case someone else does this. I now keep all the components in a separate enclosure that is mounted next to the oven. It has been running strong for some time now. Really like your shows by the way. Keep it up

[@fridgdog]

been watching your vids all day man! props to ya! amazing work! im lovin every minute of it! keep it up!

[@Silverfox2487]

For all the gear and motor heads out there that are into or getting into this type of stuff you should make a nice OBDII CAN bus system that can read and display OBDII information and display the individual PID's from the cars as well. It would be really cool to see you make something like that to give us gear heads a good solid starting point to work from so we can develop our own can bus communication kits. Please consider making one, it would be greatly appreciated. Cheers!

[@Wutzan]

This is amazing. Awesome, awesome work!

[@nanodocl]

Can you please upload the code source for the chip and the schematics? I did have a look in BH website, but no luck.

[@whoisme678]

I would like to see just how you would create a BGA station using the popular Altec PC410 and IR ceramic heater. Maybe too easy for you but installing a camera which could also be used to see how the solder process is running or a means of entering the profile using a touch maybe?

[@kewlbns69]

oh man i just gotta tell you that intro cracked me up! :D

[@element14presents]

@anonghg No, it's supposed to say "Solder Over", i swear!

[@amtpdb1]

curious-Has the arduino code and schematic been made available? Thnaks

[@PrometheusLights]

Quick question. I bought an FC and reflow controller. Got it hooked up and everything works great...except the bottom elements don't get hot. I checked the resistance and they have continuity and are in spec...so they should work. They also worked when it was still "just a toaster oven." I tried hooking them up alone, minus the top element in the circuit and still nothing. Is there anything obvious that I'm doing wrong, considering the top element works fine and they are all wired in parallel to the same input? Thanks!

[@tubeDude48]

Ben how about a schematic layout as well as the Arduino code, (with modifications)?

[@paundpro]

Nice!

[@Darkl0ud_Productions]

So happy for toaster! He got meaning back again!

[@BLOODBATHDAVID]

really cool

[@zezeA380]

Cool! Thanks Ben!

[@stealthop]

great video Ben ! i think i will be attempting this in the near future thanks.

[@1BraydenAnderson1]

So did ya do it?

[@MarkoNiskanenFIN]

Good stuff Ben! I would have also thought that pulsing will kill the element quite fast.

[@Vanillaessence]

Am I the only one who wishes these episodes went back to useful things that we could actually build?

[@syth406]

I groaned every time he pushed the BSG jokes :D

[@judejames28]

I"m part of the majority that loves ur theatrics, so keep it up :).

[@Francirius]

Hey BEn, i have a question, is the same an ir oven and the basic electric oven with timer knob?? Im looking forward to do this project. Im from Chile

[@DDayEvents]

LOL haha that intro was awesome !

[@Nitrisbot]

How did that scr work out in that small gap next to that oven? I use them at work for control over heaters in commercial or industrial situations. They get hot real hot but normally we have more then one in a switch board so we put fans to pull hot air out of the boards to keep the scr's cooler, or they tend to go pop. I'm just wondering weather you have had any issues as I have thought about using them in tight situations like that. I just though that being next to the oven might help heat it.

[@babyflurryheart9114]

its cool

[@nanodocl]

Source code??? schematics??

[@MrAmity009]

could you please make the arduino code and schematic available?

[@QBlackDeathQ]

How much did this project run you? Or would if you did not already own the parts?

[@ibzyronx7093]

that intro was awsome!!!

[@cgcanada88]

Hey Ben, what would happen if I put live and neutral backwards? Would there be a problem, since we 're talking about AC current? Here in Europe, our plugs go in the wall either side up, since there are 2 prongs for earth, on the top and the bottom but is there any significance to keeping live and neutral consistent? Also, there is no way (unless I unscrew the wall plug) to know how the electrician has the wires arranged at each plug.

[@jazsm5385]

GOOD PRESENTATION

[@SmallDarkSide]

Ben, do you know any thermocouple amplifier circuits that I could possibly build for a cheap price and will work with arduino using a library?

[@IronServant351]

Could you use this reflow oven for PCBs that have components on both side like on a laptop?

[@Fujiga11]

rockin the cosby sweater like a boss

[@ShaunHusain]

4+ years later Arduino Nano is $5 the atmel chips can be had for $1.56 (rf modules are also $1...) Glad the enthusiasm of the engineering community and manufacturers has kept the project alive and well and cheaper than ever :)

[@GuillermoGarcia-hp3vg]

Shaun Husain2

[@tangomouse1971]

is there a PDF with a schematic of the controller and how the ovens wired. thxs

[@user-nl1di8gt4p]

I think it is a good idea to mention that a minimal Arduino also should have 3 additional capacitors. 2 for the crystall and one to stabilize the power.

[@nheng6913]

What planet is such an oven from that lights up in 2 seconds? Are those halogen tubes or a very fast quartz type?

[@thomasjhouck]

You do not need caps. Caps on the crystal are used to fine tune the overal oscillator frequency. (per say). In this case Ben was not doing an time related events. Just monitoring the temp. In the case of RF or timing applications the caps become more important. You can find more info in the datasheet of the mega or on the arduino forum just search crystal load caps

[@kulgan96]

wow an toaster-oven with a SSD pretty advanced

[@Mogy336]

Can you give us Source code and schematics

[@allthingsawesome2]

cool

[@CaesarRoyale]

I fold laundry to The Ben Heck Show.

[@ISmellBurning]

I'm curious why the thermo-couple needed that extra board and chip to drive it? Why not connect directly to the atmega328p?

[@electricks547]

AWSOME

[@carter.valente]

Where can I get the "ribbon" cable that he uses to wire up the LCD?

[@abelelbaile4408]

I finally run it at 110V @ 50Hz with no problem whatsoever. The IR tubes are basically incandescent light bulbs, so frequency doesn't really matter as long as you get the correct voltage sorted out. You could even run them with DC.

[@Masterpj555]

Hey Ben, you said a thermocouple is more accurate then a thermistor. But on the reprap wiki they say a thermistor is more accurate but the thermocouple is capable of sensing higher temperatures and is more linear. I'm a slight bit confused, especially what they mean with linear.

[@markk4409]

Is the code available for the processor? What about a schematic?

[@madmaxowens3357]

Where could you buy these stuff?

[@springer-qb4dv]

unlike analog toaster oven which does need controller to set precise temperature, digital toaster ovens already has controller and can be set to precise temperature - isn't that already good enough to pre-warm and reflow a pcb? For example, on my digital toaster oven dedicated to reflow, I can set temp to 350 deg F and it will go there precisely. Then take it to 425 deg F manually. Good enough for pre-warm pcb and reflow

[@n3r0z3r0]

it is better to use a triac to control AC power. By modulating phase you can smoothly control temperature. You can also use opto-isolated triacks such is MOC3021 + BT137. Way chipper than Solid State Relays.

[@johnchronic5248]

Although it would be nice to have exact temperature control, you can always just set one of these bad boys to 220ish degrees, let it heat up and pop your circuit board in for 1-2 minutes. It's a bit more chaotic, but it works.

[@cucuMobile2470]

cool hack

[@yoramstein]

BEAUTIFULY DONE-MARK 10 !

[@StevenSmyth]

Could you use this to cook an Xbox mainboard with "the red ring of death?" I have heard that some of the reflowed chips solder joints crack on the board and could be reflowed in this way.

[@Evaldas65]

Yes, but there's one problem. The capacitors are only rated for 105 C, which honestly isn't enough, so you'd have to remove the capacitors first.

[@jeronimomurruni]

I suggest you don't do that, because other components of the board won't handle that temperature, and you'd destroy them. One thing you can do it's to heat only the chip that is unsoldered

[@StevenSmyth]

Cool. Thanks for the suggestion.

[@pragneshmistry4436]

which heater is used on solder reflow ovean..spectrum????

[@appokruznz]

was wondering if you could build me a reflow over so i can do xbox 360 reflowing and do it right the first time , how much $ would it cost and how long would it take ?

[@pianoman112233]

to use the ATMEGA without the board you said you need the chip and crystal but what does the crystal do? i have seen them before but have no idea what they do or how to use them :(

[@loganreina2290]

Sweet your background is the Seattle spaceneedle!

[@coalitionarmy]

I wish I could get my hands on a laser cutter and table top cnc. So I can start doing this stuff also.

[@superpoo1948]

Ben with this project you can develop motherboards?

[@TheKutia]

Like a boss!

[@AKAtheA]

Find an old PC to gut... The PATA disks & floppy drives use these flat ribbon cables (and with the cables, you also get connectors that can be shortened for your application) ;-)

[@carter.valente]

What type of LCD is that?

[@thomasjhouck]

Hey Ben, One comment. The parts you mounted to the panels in the oven are going to reach very high temps. Especially when reflow lead free. Upwards of 260C (given it is a short period). But over a period of time I imagine you will begin to see part failures. Since you are over stressing the silicon. I built something like this in the past. Using a similar technique. Mounting everything inside panels of the oven. After about 6 month I began to see failures and it took some time to troubleshoot.

[@mrkiky]

8:31 he said SSD instead of SSR

[@alanjagroop1282]

How to make a electric furnace melting machine that doesnt use gas. To melt metal. But using a regular outlet. Not no 220 plug. But a 20amps 115 duplex outlet plug instead. That way it wont pull to much current like what the 220 pull and fuctionable good when ever u need to use it.

[@kioanakos]

7:58 how is it supposed to turn it on? :P

[@charlesnssouza9595]

You could mount this project and send to Brazil? What would be the cost of this project? A big hug

[@rotor13]

I'd like to know this as well

[@Xnaron]

These ovens seem to have a problem where they overheat and the glass explodes. Maybe that is why they don't sell them anymore. I'm trying to find another similar infrawave one.

[@MartinBlass]

How would you determine the pulse frequency of the SSR to maintain a specific temperature? Just by testing?

[@DavidChipman]

Use the thermo-couple to monitor the temp, turning the elements on and off as needed.Not sure a predetermined pulse frequency would really work that well.

[@MartinBlass]

I thought so... So basically monitor the temperature progression (for hysteresis perhaps) and set the PWM accordingly - if we need higher temperature increase the pulse frequency etc.

[@MartinBlass]

Thanks

[@3mariusx]

a PID controler would be much more easy and safe to implement, probably more cheaper too.., i recoment REX-C100 its cheap, made in japan, and it can be found with thermocouple and quality relay in the same package. it's not a commercial, it's an advice for those who need a reflow oven.

[@km5405]

5v on a pin and it turns off... GND and it turns off - how do you turn it on then??? ; aside from my nitpicking: cool project man!

[@fenclu]

Does anyone know the name of the piano song in the beggining?

[@ByronGiant]

over the solder bolder holder?

[@arleslie]

Ben, will you ever go 1080p?

[@cadenjcAt]

Yeah you can get Sony Vegas Pro 12 that cane easily turn your videos to 1080p! Well at least I can make it with my videos!

[@tz496]

FlamelessBrotato PvP If the source isn't, it's not worth it...

[@ExaByteTutorials]

Well, he is it just a few weeks now :D

[@CrewOfMasters]

annihlator Just zoom and enhance!

[@MrAwawe]

Complaining about 720p from 2012, wow.

[@abelelbaile4408]

Can I run this oven at 50Hz AC instead of 60Hz. I'm outside the US. Please help.

[@vext001]

And why does arduino not have a h-hridge on it so it can drive stepper motors??? What else do you want? 400AC input? 230 Output? integrated coffeemachine? I don't know any board you can drive with AC - maybe because there are very few AC converters to low voltage?

[@voltron63]

WOW..

[@AndyJohnson3leftturns]

Toaster Oven sounds like Batman. And this is awesome.

[@YO2LYP]

At 7:55 - 5 volt will turn off the ssr,ground will turn it off. How to turn it on?

[@twosents]

I'm considering a similar mod for a rotisserie oven appliance to use as a coffee roaster...

[@TiredOldFart]

You're correct. The soldering inside the thermistor would suffer at reflow temperatures.

[@yoramstein]

hey Ben i jelous at the size of your basement. Here in Netherland small houses.

[@fluffytitan114]

Why are you still using led solder?

[@ddzahn]

Ben, I love your vids! I'm an electrician. The L in the L N G stands for LINE!!!!! Grrrrr! Just kidding :)

[@ostensibleMuse]

you're awesome

[@MrFofu117]

why you use atmel microcontrolers always???

[@ilhaarberg]

WOW you make Coop things

[@Duckyistrippin]

The entire point of an arduino is ease of use. You dont actually need to buy an arduino to get all the functionality of one. The little board they sell you just makes connections to the processor easier. As such, why not make the board accept a wide variety of input voltages? That way, the arduino is even more user friendly and has a wider range of imbed applications. Look at your typical chinese PID controller. They will run off 10-200volts ac or dc and is half the size and cost of an arduino.

[@ben_r_]

Just get the MAX6675 chip. I have worked with it before and for a one off single project there is nothing quicker or easier to implement.

[@ypoora1]

THings here in europe run anywhere betweer 220-240V @~16 amps. 50-60 hz. So, i'm pretty sure you will be allright.

[@bixlord]

@8:00, on*

[@lolyeppp]

Hilarious and educational

[@mattkezowsky2914]

solid state relay? why not use optoisolator and triac?

[@klauspetersen8593]

Matt Kezowsky Yes that would make the video much more interesting but ben heck show is more like a teaser for electronic nerds and less a in depth tutorial kind of channel. Instead there is a toaster love story

[@fredflickinger643]

What about PID?

[@ceb515rulez]

Hi Ben, I had An idea you take an iPad and give it the same idea on the hinged laptop. And then a a Bluetooth Keyboard