Why I Quit Vanguard (and then didn't)

[@DifferentFight]

End of an era where the most amount of Solemn content you’d get is occasional 1-2 hour ramble sessions on my Twitch streams

[@Bluestar899TCG]

"What is the difference between an Overtrigger and Dimension Shifter?" I felt this one deeply. You can easily replace "my opponent critsacked me" with "I got D-Barrier'd for my life savings" and I'd react the same to either one. With a huge oof.

[@wcctcg]

Homies: 1 Solemn: 1 Everyone wins!

[@YellowCardTCG]

Congrats and great job on making peace with yourself.

[@paulpreserves8310]

we will definitely support you on the campaign to make the game better; having big content creators explain the problems i think gives better odds to change the game

[@CommanderJaime]

Welcome back amigo! Do what you do best for your career and let Vanguard be your fun outlet with the homies. 👊

[@jacobjensen7704]

Welcome back man. I really love this game too, and it’s frustrating when Bushiroad doesn’t take it seriously, but at the end of the day it’s still so much fun.

[@mythosruler6286]

I love Vanguard. I haven't gone to a local in years but the games with my friends when I did, made me love the game more. Thank you for going back to Vanguard.

[@PaladinXRider]

You know in the anime how the main characters push themselves to be the best they can be, a problem strikes them and sets them back, they act all sad about the game, and then they realize they just want to play the game because they enjoy it and it ends up where they make the greatest comeback in the show’s history? Solemn just entered that last part of the story. Everyone, be afraid!

[@misterart7298]

Jaden Yuki?

[@jonyfba]

A monk can only know how to sacrifice worldly possessions after it has succeeded at the system it's trying to beat. You have gone through what most people have to through in their 20's and 30's in a span of a year in a half. Maxime, you are a legend for saying these things, and I hope it inspires people to focus equally on their life in and outside of vanguard

[@Nickysagesanders]

Welcome back man. I've quit a long time ago already. But yeah i've been kinda in the same boat. Been thinking a few times to come back into vanguard. I am missing the roadtrips with the homies ( you included 😊 ) greetings the former Bermuda player 😂

[@RadiantVanguard]

Always welcome to come chill IdolKing forever!

[@Nickysagesanders]

@RadiantVanguard awwww thanks you ^^. Yeah after last visit few months ago. I was feeling the vibe. Went home with a double feeling. Like i don't have much time these days.( Am literally writing this while at work 🤣 ) But am also missing the roadtrips and vibe with ya homies

[@ohellyea23]

Max, you are literally one of the people that got me back into Vanguard after the shit show that was V. There are no words that describe how happy i am to see you back. Standard actually isnt looking too bad rn

[@chaudspieler]

Sadly people who follow him also attacked anyone who loves playing Neo Nectar calling Neo Nectar and the players brain dead....but that could be the fault of the people who follow him and not so much his fault but he still needs to address it because people who played Neo Nectar had to quit because of those bad eggs

[@gtr9315]

Welcome back! Also just want to let you know that your sanguine bass kick so much ass

[@SolemnVanguard]

amazing to hear!

[@halokid2544]

I’m mean you can pull a Jesse kotton but for vanguard and start doing side quests like competing with vanillas or using scaredick otk, trying to use v reiji, trying to use limit break cards or legion mechanics. That’s what I’ve been doing with my friends because honestly vanguard is more fun when you try to do fun stuff instead of competitive stuff. For the longest time if I wanted to hear a vanguard KZbinr talk about premium you were always the guy. For the last couple of months though when you were gone I had to resort to wcc and Jaime but glad you returned.

[@skyblue-fp5ul]

Nice, Iv never watched solem content except that one vid where he talked about his card sleeves, so I guess Im subscribing now, its soleme one of the best vanguarders ever lived

[@BLIPBLOPer336]

Glad you're back Solemn!!!

[@kdbushikaydee]

Welcome back man, you have always been my fav vg tuber since V, you are the man who made me a granblue freak up til now, and the reason why I came back to D era due to nightrose thank you for all your past content and hope you will still keep up with the contents

[@arifkarim6868]

I used to watch your vids playing the game. Happy that youre happy playing it again. I got into a different tcg called Flesh and Blood. Maybe (hopefully) youd could get into it as well. All the best

[@jeancarlo37]

Welcome back, I just came back to the game this year, and I'm having a lot of fun with standard, but it's too hard to get cards in my country, luckily we have a very dedicated community that helps a lot

[@pikago1811]

Hell yeah! Welcome back, Legend. Maybe you'll reignite the lost passion for Vanguard in some of us old folk. Peace!

[@AbhishekGupta-bh2kf]

so happy you are back

[@spaceykat420]

It's good to see you back man. I'm glad you're looking happy and healthy to bro!

[@QBM7]

Me personally I always thought your love and passion for the game, the drive to see it be competitive, be respected amongst other card games. Was always something to admire and all inspiring. But sadly the writing was on the wall man. You were going to eventually burn yourself in pursuit of your passions. Happens to the best of us "the brightest stars burn the fastest". But it's within that fire and ashes new things can be forged. Keep moving forward, keep being passionate, keep being unapologetically yourself Solemn. Look forward to seeing you at worlds and what else you decide to make.

[@chaudspieler]

Welcome back Solemn. I'm glad you had some self reflection. Now maybe you could call out the people going on the Vanguard groups and wiki calling Neo Nectar and the players brain dead? They did it because if your one comment in that Ange deck profile video a long time ago and they never let up since.

[@-Pulsar-]

I am the same nowadays man. I just wanted a game that was just somewhat cheap and fun and Premium Vanguard kinda fits the bill for me right now. We just have banned the overtrigger in our locals 'cause no one cares. Non of us have the time anyways to be super competitive or try to get to worlds or BCS or any of that stuff so we just been having fun with our silly decks. I actually build Blau recently a super fun deck and surprisingly consistent I love it. We are about 15 people and everyone comes with something unique, a guy actually came with Genesis Regalia and he got second place. We have another dude that came with Claret Sword Revolt and the dude actually came in 4th. Prem has such diversity and so many choices for decks its hands down the best format.

[@OlaAremu]

all good bro just keep keepin' it real!

[@Typ0King]

It happens man, had a break of 4-5 years and it was good for me, then returned only to vanguard trough the streams of jj. Nice wholesome community and a funny game = fun! And i was back

[@phatle8912]

I do miss the "I will see ya soon. CIAO!". It's good to see you, man. Welcome back.

[@EKo_CVZ]

Literally down bad missing the homies

[@IamtheEkco]

Let’s go 🥹 welcome back

[@braindominguez7938]

I miss your videos glad your back ❤❤❤❤

[@alexanderdennis7307]

Welcome back king :), waiting for the zorga tutorial !!

[@kumatank8022]

And on that day, Solemn learned why monkeys enjoy playing low-tier decks

[@dragnoa.shadow]

Welcome back! 🐐

[@Overtrigger]

Welcome back!

[@metascrub285]

The lack of support for premium and mechanics only coming to standard which honestly makes it a different game is what got me to quite.

[@TeamWildCardsPT]

Welcome back king!!!!

[@thiagoventuradesousa7275]

I too stopped playing, but am rturning with G-format. Tbh, i hate the new standard simply because the format is hypocritical right now.. You have 6 nations, but each nation has like 500 new "clans" in form of the ridelines, and the deckbuilding generic cards are all RRRs. Meaning that most of the times, your deck consists on a common that is highly specific and will not play outside that specific deck. So, if you say something like: "I'm gonna think outside the box and look at my bulk for something wacky", in Premium or V you could find some thrashy commons that say CB1 gain 5k. Shitty? Yes, but you could place it in any deck of that clan and still be functional. In standard, most common cards says: If you have 2 crits in your bind zone/ if you have a vanguard with Baromagnes/if you soul blasted 4 card at the same time CB1 gain 5k. Shitty? Yes. But this time it is beyond shitty, simply because they can't be used in decks outside Almajestar/ Baromagnes/ Drajeweled decks, unless you want a fancy vanilla. And it is not because you are playing the card wrong, it is simply because that card can only function in only one deck. When they did the 5-color thing ( + bermuda pink), it reminded me of... well... mtg where there are really few cards that has a deep interaction between specific cards, while most of the cards have generic effects that can be put in many strategies. When Keita Mori said that cards would be more generic, i liked a lot, and for sets 1- 3 the promise was there. All generic cards were accessible, we had budget builds like ShieldFisher, Generic ridelines, like Steve 'n Dick from Bruce's rideline, A lot of cards that had like a specific effect only on V, but on R were just like CB1- SC2, or Put this into soul, give 5k to someone... while the RR and RRR stuff were direct support from decks, like D-BT01 Alden. Meaning that if you wanna build Hexaorb, you didn't need to buy the heavy stuff for Bastion, making your deck easier to build. But from set 4 ownards... well, well... guess we'll be "swirling" all down huh... consistency pieces started to gain more Rs in their rarities, while specific stuff became more common, and during this shift we got even another issue. An old issue that came back for the 55th time, 50-dollar PROMOs. After that came the Energy generator, that could only be obtained by build a badly designed product. And to me, that is awful, simply because even if 'I'm in Japan for the next 3 months right, i currently live in Brazil, and there is litrally no official tournaments there anymore ( another discussion) because of how mistreated the players were since 2013. Also, it is too hard to find sealed products outside of importing from Ebay or few other stores. And importing products is too expensive if you don't make a big buy that candilute the taxes and fees. So imagine a player that has no LGS near, but wants to play the game by remote fights, can they play it without importing not only the cards, but also a bad product that won't grant a thing for them other than 1 random trigger + 1 random PG/Elementaria, 4 grade 3s and the Energy generator? All for 10+ USD + the exchange fees + importation taxes+ shipping fees? And for premium, I have no words to talk about other than using Michael Jackson to describe how i feel for Bushiroad when i try to dive into premium: " All i have to say is that they don't really care about us "

[@coleevans8763]

This is the solemn Vanguard we love “ I’m back bitches” and chow! ❤ So much is energy!

[@naotimez4720]

I genuinely relate honestly. I wanted to try and keep going with VG but honestly. Everytime I tried to tell myself to keep myself with the game. But I just couldn't care and got really disenfranchised with the game. The OT was a thing but thats not my primary concern. The primary market and the understanding about how if you don't play locals, the tournament promos are just awkward to obtain. The constant need to rinse and rotate for almost no real reason. Which is why I think playing Shadowverse has been a huge shift in my mental state. Which I think is why I'm fine with rotating out of VG and just playing SVE. Even though I only have 1 person to play against locally. But I think I can't just leave myself out of VG as a game. Which is why i'll probably get Dear Days 2.

[@birninzananetwork]

Welcome back 🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳 P.s. Have you try battle sprite 😅

[@GuardianCircleCFV]

Glad to see you're returning to Vanguard! I feel like card games in general will always come with annoying RNG elements like OTs and Handtraps. Which is why I've stuck with Vanguard for as long as I have because I love the core mechanics and game flow more so than what other games offer. I do feel like the game would be significantly improved if OTs were simply removed altogether, but I still enjoy Vanguard enough at a base level to keep playing.

[@MH_Zard]

Bro. That's me with vanguard and I played YGO way longer, quit and kinda dipping into other games too. I also hate OT and the price wall issue for newbies, but the good for me far outweighs the bad. I like the gameplay loop, always having a deck in my nation to look forward to playing and upgrading, and being with the homies, each of us hooking ach other up with our own pulls each set. It's fun. I don't care or have the time to be a super sweat in card games either so it's perfect. Just try your best andhave fun with your favorite decks.

[@paulolucero9864]

7:19 Yeah most people realice what is actually wrong with ygo when reaches that very same conclussion. We really cannot be going from killer format to killer format changing absolutely every damn card to play around 'x' so much, this is getting actually insane.

[@Qpxy7]

I haven’t touched vanguard since the end of G and I’m glad I did😭😭😭

[@hiokurugaya809]

Welcome back True overtrigger just lets people who aren't supposed to win, win unexpectedly. Nothing we can do but just enjoy it

[@Stup1d0zz]

You're making me double down on Vanguard, big guy. I was about to dab my toes in YGO again until this video.

[@Queenofthesevenseas]

Honestly I personally liked V❤ well more I liked the cards and different mechanics then everything else. Overdress is a mixed bag for me. More so because of the addition of the over trigger😂 especially in a best of one format 😓😈💣 Sure the over trigger is a unique and interesting mechanic, however I still don’t really like having it in the game. I’m still waiting for my jewel knights to come to standard 😩 their still my favorite deck archetype next to bangdream, and angel feathers Currently I’m trying grand Archive and playing vanguard on the side ( as I sadly don’t have any English decks)

[@GanicoGSx]

Even with having Tabletop Simulator (TTS) to play card games with other people (it's been a long while since I last did that), I guess being socially isolated IRL since 2020 gradually has been wearing on my enthusiasm with the game and the anime series and being stressed-out on trying to keep. I did get excited with Coral appearing as Encounter cards, but I hope I can get around to trying it out on TTS and eventually IRL.

[@wardhuysmans5978]

the real Vanguard were the friends we made along the way

[@openmindedmusicman]

THE LEGEND HAS RETURNED!!! I CAN'T WAIT FOR YOUR UNAPOLOGETIC CRITICISMS OF THE GAME!!!!!

[@mythosruler6286]

Your also one of the main reasons I got into Granblue. And I have not been let down.

[@Y0kAiS]

I think a lot of vanguard players deal with popularity bias as well. Some think just because the game isn’t as popular as the big three that it means their game isn’t good or can be fun. Sometimes you just gotta stop and smell the roses.

[@soul_2092]

Not sure if you remember me but back in 2020 during the BRO Season we got paired up and kinda bricked hard with Valkerion Premium. Suffice it to say despite the laughs we had that day. ill be honest …. I had to up my game and have been doing so since, but should we meet again in the BCS Season i intend to give it my all, but welcome back none the less i think i speak for the whole community when i say….we have missed you and your…shenanigans to say the least 🤭

[@ItsNoto]

Happy you are back queen love you so much but please leave some tops for me UwU

[@masterofgalaxies9799]

G series was my favorite format. i would love it to come back over premium

[@aprilmcfarlane601]

bro heard that yugioh introduced max c and vanguard had a new BCS season and *now* he decides that he wants to come back

[@khaiyossgodslayer445]

can it be a good idea if they keep the concept of OT but change it to like, a trigger that does the effects of all the triggers together, but instead of +10k it's +20k, and they keep the 50k shield ?

[@NecroNathancon]

I'm keeping a loose eye on Standard. If they ban OTs, I'll get into Standard. Otherwise, I was in a similar boat as you. I did a last regional for V, went undefeated, and happily sold the deck, just waiting for OTs to properly, finally go before I pick up Messiah.

[@sLimeProhibitum]

Feels like going back to your toxic ex (vanguard). We just love/hate this game. Welcome back king. 👑👑👑

[@GitsuneG]

Premium has been managed well for me..sometimes. I'm taking a break from Harri/Doll and tried on Jewel Knights until recently, I ask an Alden player if I should keep go Rezael or Alden with Jewel Knights, on which he recommend the latter. So I playtested it Alden/Jewel Knights feel overpowered. That's my week.

[@Rekai]

This man came back in time for Granblue in standard lol

[@rainyindoors]

TL;DW: When you play a card game with a really annoying mechanic, but it’s okay cause you’re just a chill guy

[@FinalArmmegedon]

My community died a while ago do that's sad. I was JUST wondering why i hadn't seen you upload in a while LMAO

[@reverseflash7095]

I stopped collecting vg cards between the end of will dress and the beginning of divineZ

[@andresosuna3503]

there are a couple of decks in standard that can play around the overtrigger

[@neo-alpha8864]

If you want to try something more competitive, "flesh and blood" is a good option.

[@nadimwallani1713]

I know how you feel solemn i haven't played competitive Vangaurd since BCS Toronto 2019 so i get it but st the same time i want to get back into Vangaurd in 2025 but I'll be 41 next year so as someone who played the game since it came out in English i am literally a Vangaurd boomer but I don't give a crap my point is if you enjoy the game then play hole heartedly and have fun 😂😁👍

[@TheDragoncollecter7]

I feel you on the Yugioh side of things, the cards that are being designed kinda just suck power creep wise. When you're trying to play a fun deck, but want it to be competitive and your opponent drops a easy win button card you do get this thought of this sucks. I don't really feel that with Vanguard besides the OT which sucks, but there are definitely times it's not an auto win and you can play through it.

[@JesterNerd]

Alright Cardfighters, he issued the challenge. Time to wreck him. No Tops for Solemn. Leggo!!!

[@TimPowerGamer]

> Rather than going in half-ass because "Fuck this game!", I can now go in half-ass because I love this game. This has been the way I've felt since 2015 when I got top 16 with Stardrive. While I dipped with the physical card game from the removal of V, my locals did board game nights and D&D campaigns, so it was much easier to quit for me. With vintage, I do feel like we're so back, though. As long as they get supported. Season 2, 3, and 4's endings were peak formats, and early G was, arguably, one of the best formats in Vanguard, so I can't help but look forward to those.

[@Djvidmaster]

Vanguard is your thanos

[@RadiantVanguard]

Not seeing a locals in years, not from my lack of inviting you 😂😂

[@ramonelst3298]

Aahhhh how I remember our fight at Offlinegaming. Both gradescrewed and bricking as **** Still one of the most annoying yet funny games I've had xd

[@thederpypidgey910]

I used to play Vanguard all the time around Nightrose V came out, I havent really.played since then. Any reccomendations for someone interested in jumping back in?

[@Armament0fJustice]

Sounds like someone remembered that a game is supposed to be fun and not take it too seriously. Vanguard is a great game for that because, while rng is a big part of the mechanics, the mechanics allow for more gameplay to happen. Yugioh's mechanics rely so much on the first (no mulligan allowed) hand that whiffing the opening screws over the whole game (because your opponent will likely have answers or outright end the game on that next turn). Vanguard at least gives you a bit of time to play a couple turns before smacking with huge multi crit multi swings (which a good player would be able to recognize and prepare for during those earlier turns).

[@RiverHawthorn-i4j]

Do you think Dear Days 2 will be good?

[@rizkyardiansyah9500]

Uncle Solemn in baaaacckkk (again)~

[@beamslashc677]

So are there any chances ill find you at a locals anytime soon?

[@LegendxSpriggan]

Overlord deck profile when

[@mrmeow2297]

Vanguard is super fun right now

[@Wrine]

Welstra Main energy

[@Kuro_1501]

HE IS BACC!😳😳🔥🔥

[@user-me1mv4vy9q]

It sounds like u might like flesh and blood, grand archive or one piece tcg, maybe lorcana too. They seem to be in a healthy state atm

[@nickmaster3886]

Why shouldn't you quit a game when you don't like playing it anymore? And why shouldn't you pick it up if it becomes interesting to you again? You don't owe an explanation.

[@jcs63]

Bro u coming to Portugal BCS this December?

[@dizzymarlboro7643]

are you back to yugioh tho?

[@Typ0King]

Did you now win/stop every BCS and springfest in 2022? Or was that 2021 and are the years just blending in my head 😅😂

[@theSixPathsOfTrains]

Nah. I like the over trigger. More fun more chaos!

[@idonotmakevidsyet]

Theres a reason people make fun of competitive yugioh.

[@EddricVanguard]

OT ban get crit, deal and stand

[@windwaker0rules]

So you are saying you love Vanguard more than 100 million?

[@EpicMTGMusic]

Vanguard doesn't worth the time, especially if you live outside the Japanese version scope. The game is good, until it goes power creep 'til no tomorrow. And them, when the game is finally balanced and good again, they simply push the buttom and flush all cards into the toilet seat named premium ( figurative, not that premium is bad, but it feels like they simply throw everything away into premium and create a new standard) and that's it. The company AGAIN is making english sets too fast. It is indeed making the very same mistake Wizards of th coast did with the recent Bloomburrow/Duskmoor collections. So, BSR is trying to milk nostalgia bait out of dzbt06 and SIX WEEKS LATER comes dz07. Guess my LGS won't buy at least one of them. It just feels like BT16 and bt17 eng ver. all over again. And tbf, the Energy shit made me quit this game for good. Because a company pushing a bad product for competitive players to simply PLAY the game, to me, was the last straw.

[@dfrost5780]

I can half ass this and still top with it, but so far bushi had been balancing and nt overpowering new unit, only kinda repeating mechanic… hey prem nightrose coming soon

[@tynytian]

You were the channel that got me into Vanguard, and it bummed me out to see you pivoting towards more Yugioh after I'd just left that game for the same reasons you gave. At least in Vanguard you get to play a few turns. In Yugioh, you either win or lose by turn 2, and its mostly about who has the best starting hand (combo pieces, handtraps, etc.) I hope we can get more sweet Vanguard content in the future🙏

[@izsubs316]

Yugioh moment

[@Nin-NinYT]

Solemn has a company?? hoehhhh?!

[@AoyagiMei]

Really funny, I have almost this exact experience except I quit Yu-Gi-Oh, then I didn't, then I did (for 11 months now). Now I'm playing Vanguard and VGC, but casually. Fun times and I'm not tossing too much time into it. Keep doing what you do and enjoy it !

[@Registeel13Ty]

Good to have you back and I totally get the attitude. I played YGO for over 15 years and it's just such a slog with bs cards. I love that Vanguard is so approachable and fairly easy to keep up with as an adult with shit to do.

[@UsagiYiisan]

Stockholm syndrome is real 🤣