Solidus Snake's Big Debate (Metal Gear Solid Animation)

[@shaynehughes6645]

My 2008 Dell monitor appreciates the video being in 3:4

[@nobeyone]

Intended experience right here, folks

[@pibyte]

don't forget to clean that quartz crystal on top of it. its full of dust and toxic electro smog!!!!!

[@Mr.Spanky]

I understood that but not the game reference but the GameStop poster

[@kirill9064]

it is 1920x1440. Not 1440x1920

[@youngjoshua4095]

4:3*

[@TheMetalAllfather]

"A normal, *NOT CLONED* politician." Smooth.

[@iananderson4754]

Solidus's PR manager 👍

[@Skona99]

Solidus looks at his note cards: "DO NOT SAY PATRIOTS"

[@nobeyone]

LA LI LU LE LO!

[@benjaminwilliams1292]

Could someone explain this for me? Some people are conditioned so they can't say the word Patriots so they say La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo instead? I really don't understand. I don't mean any disrespect but as much as I love Metal Gear Solid 1-4 I never really thought the whole Philosophers and later Patriots sub-plot was necessary. It seems to me to be like what Alfred Hitchcock liked to call a McGuffin, a plot device, something that motivates the characters but isn't really important. I hope that you won't be upset by my comments but I'd like to hear your point of view on the subject 🤔🙂

[@cantsuggestareasonablename9101]

@@benjaminwilliams1292Well it all comes down to nano machines son.

[@Moircuus]

And field mice, dont forget the field mice ​@@cantsuggestareasonablename9101

[@iananderson4754]

@@benjaminwilliams1292 la li lu le lo are the 5 syllables the japanese alphabet dont have. basically if you can't put into words what they are then you can't actually perceive them.

[@dingleberryliespewer3177]

I hate that Snake wearing a t shirt over his sneaking suit is probably EXACTLY what he'd do.

[@nobeyone]

It’s a comfort thing for him

[@jdjdhenifjdbdjxjs]

disguise

[@TheMisterGuy]

I think of it more like the sneaking suit is his thermal underwear.

[@spammyboy2412]

It's like Raidens poncho in MGR

[@benjaminwilliams1292]

A jumper over his sneaking suit. That's so cute. It really brings a smile to my face 😍

[@johnclarce6894]

That’s a solid us president

[@ifrit05]

you win

[@darndavid7569]

No! That is not a solid U.S. president!

[@nobeyone]

I see what you did there

[@Deavastator]

NO! That is not solid US president!

[@3Xmedic]

Ha

[@sugarpiez1922]

Solidus 2024

[@nobeyone]

Only president to wear cool tentacle arms

[@denifnaf5874]

69th like

[@remyfuller]

George Sears has my vote

[@rachelcobb2209]

Scratch that zero for president

[@azraelknightquest5754]

Be better than Trump in some ways, better than Biden, Bush, Obama and Clinton in virtually every way.

[@kingcyclops4079]

Solidus sitting in office: please, call me President Boss. No affiliation with the infamous terrorist known as Big Boss, of course. *starts smoking a cigar*

[@Mecha_Hitler]

"Big President"

[@Comkill117]

“Do I look like Big Boss, or a much older Solid Snake? Snake was a hero who defeated Big Boss in both Outer Heaven and Zanzibar Land you know.”

[@nobeyone]

Therefore I am the spitting image of a GREAT HERO! SOLIDUS 2024

[@alexsilva28]

​@@nobeyoneEr-I mean, Sears 2024

[@alexdeghost2729]

Solid Snake and Big Boss are not identical as shown in MGS4

[@mercury2157]

​@@alexdeghost2729at that "age," Snake looked different. But placing one half of Snake and Solidus's models each side by side shows us that he WAS identical to Solidus. Solidus is the "perfect clone" of Big Boss, so with enough inference, you can assume Snake did look exactly like Big Boss at some point in his life. It wasn't until Snake was much more aged that he started to actually look half Japanese.

[@alexdeghost2729]

@@mercury2157 MGS4 just retcons that tho. In fact, Big Boss comments on Slid Snake’s age, saying they were more so brothers than father and son. They were both very close age wise and do not look the same.

[@CodeRed001]

As soon as he suggested he would clean the internet up of junk information the Patriots artificially cranked that approval rate right up, he already won.

[@nobeyone]

4D chess

[@davemarx7856]

The LaLiLuLeLo?

[@mercury2157]

I think that would've actually gotten him assassinated. The Public didn't know about the Patriots, and the reason they bumped him out of office was because the Shadow Moses incident was his first attempt at striking out against them.

[@testedhawk]

"Child soldiers are badass." - Solidus Snake, 1993

[@sam1_2_1]

Why 1993?

[@YoshiTheyosh123]

​@sam1_2_1 Middle of the Liberian Civil war I guess? Where he got Raiden to participate as a 10 year old.

[@_Channel_Deleted_]

The Idea that David and Eli never noticed that the president looked exactly like their father whom they had both previously known is outrageous

[@tylerritchie2736]

The funny thing is Eli never did, and wildly misunderstood both venom and Jack's opinions of him.

[@MidlifeCrisisJoe]

@@tylerritchie2736 To be fair, Eli was raised between South Africa, various other African nations, and Great Britain. He probably just wasn't paying much attention to US politics. David on the other hand, growing up in the US, really has no excuse.

[@PosthumanHeresy]

@@MidlifeCrisisJoe David lived in the middle of nowhere in Alaska. I think perhaps he just never even paid attention to the news.

[@MidlifeCrisisJoe]

@@PosthumanHeresy He *retired* to Alaska. We actually don't have a great idea about his upbringing as a child and where he lived. He joined the military though as a young man and was in active service for many years BEFORE retiring to Alaska. And I don't know if you've ever served or not but soldiers who are enlisted for many years (even if not career military) aren't unaware of the world around them. The military is not a cave. It gets news and internet and plenty of information.

[@lnss_secondchannel]

I mean David didn't notice his CO looked exactly like him, so...

[@GeorgeSalonikh]

What's more to this is nobody questioning why Solid Snake is the spitting image of the POTUS throughout MGS2. Edit: including snake himself, did he not notice that the POTUS looks like him? Was snake really that shut-out from the outside world in alaska that he didnt even know who the president is?

[@MakusinMeringue]

That... that is very odd. Maybe it's just the age gap with the hair?

[@nobeyone]

Patriot sponsored viral videos talking about how doppelgängers are possible and not as rare as you would think

[@Skona99]

"Why is my dad the president, when did he become president? Does this make the entire US Army FoxHound?" He probably didn't care, he was probably having a good time with his dogs.

[@calvatronic]

Bros busy doing philanthropy stuff and didn’t watch the news

[@LinkinMark1994]

Sadly there are a lot of us citizens who don’t know what our elected officials look like

[@MeatwadMeatwad]

totally canon btw

[@nobeyone]

Kojima gave me thumbs-up in a dream

[@burnu2240]

Lmao

[@enclavegeneraltravis3131]

@@nobeyoneI believe it

[@shackedlibman6993]

Well, some art portraying George Sears suggests he shaved and put some glasses. As we all know, it's the perfect disguise.

[@nobeyone]

The ol’ Clark Kent thing

[@alexanderglex4600]

LIQUID!

[@Quackerilla]

The sort-of retroactive reveal around Solidus was my favorite. It's not just a bunch of solid snakes were fighting on Shadow Moses, it's that the *president* was also a solid snake. retroactive edit: I know they're all Big Boss clones, but consider it from Solid Snake's perspective; "The President is me, and I've taken over Shadow Moses Island with assistance from my own personal army, who are also me, led by me- but blonde."

[@nobeyone]

So many goddamn snakes, man

[@corryjamieson3909]

@@nobeyone Then, there's poor Jack getting caught in the middle. And then he returns with a Revengence.

[@yubos98]

Literally Solid Snake on Shadow Moses: "You're Big Boss, he's Big Boss, I'm Big Boss! Are there any other Big Bosses I should know about!?" Solidus: "Meow"

[@Pouria_RST]

@@yubos98solid snake: i’m outta here

[@jdalbiac]

Underrated comment​@@yubos98

[@TheAceLewis]

IM SO GLAD PEOPLE ARE STILL MAKING MGS2 CONTENT

[@blingusringus2429]

I love that his approval rating goes up even higher when he starts going on about his love of child soldiers

[@nobeyone]

As it should

[@spazemfathemcazemmeleggymi272]

I'd vote for him

[@matek1704]

"Man, that's based"

[@Treblaine]

He's the one candidate saying what everyone is thinking.

[@federalcasemaker]

his love for WHAT!?

[@PlebNC]

Host: "What's your stance on economics?" Solidus: "I have a solid foundation. We need to liquidate the authorities in charge of the flow of financial information so that we can create heaven outside the current economic model." Liquid (wearing a MAGA hat, pointing at TV): "Preach, Brother! Preach!"

[@nobeyone]

I’ve never pictured liquid like that but I love it

[@PlebNC]

@@nobeyone Solidus: "I'm going to build a wall to keep the Patriots out and make Zero pay for it all." Liquid: "I'll vote for him again! His term isn't over, NOT YET!"

[@medibirb6912]

I see what you did there, heh

[@Majuular]

He's tellin it like it is!

[@bacreeton]

Wtf it’s Running Shine’s competition for best video essayist on KZbin, Majuular!

[@nobeyone]

Crazy to see people who’s videos I watch show up in my comments :0

[@Fossilsnake]

Ocelot 2024, WERE NOT FINISHED YET

[@nobeyone]

LETS GO BABY

[@cleverman383]

NOT YET SNAKE, ITS NOT OVER YET

[@IAmBushid0]

LIQUID!

[@DiscoManSam]

Solidus became President because the Patriots were just like "That'd be funny as hell."

[@nobeyone]

Just goofin’

[@usul573]

You'd think the Patriots would want all the Snake brothers to just be soldiers.

[@Eyemanlordoftheeyes]

@@usul573 But that would be boring, and why wouldn't they want to have some fun

[@Jesse12489]

Somewhere a college football player watching this and hopes to be president like him 1 day. He will be the best Senator in US history. He can win any political debate. Because Nano Machines!

[@elitobin]

i love the health noise playing when he becomes more likely to be president and i also like how you can see the podium in the shot where he says "we need more of them" so it makes it look like hes got really long arms

[@CocoHutzpah]

He's got my vote. I can't katana duel just _some guy_ on top of Federal Hall on April 30th. That'd be weird.

[@Propanesucka]

I'm not sure what's funnier, this or the fact that the canon explanation is that he shaved and put on Clark Kent glasses.

[@alephnole7009]

before i even started watching this i knew he was gonna be like "Yeah we need more child soldiers, as president ill lower the age of conscription to 5yo!"

[@r4zi3lgintoro65]

and the Philanthropy was born

[@Nillocke27]

Big Boss's file wasn't declassified until 2013, four years after Solidus had died. The general public had no idea Big Boss even existed until then. It is interesting to think if anyone made a connection between Solidus and Big Boss after the declassification. Depends on whether photos of Big Boss were made publically available.

[@Jotari]

The files the US had on him and the missions he undertook for them was declassified at that time (ie MGS3 and all those later games they made). But he was still a terrorist out there openly leading a rogue nation for a timer period.

[@jt1687]

Big Boss was widely known to the public as a legendary soldier/mercenary/terrorist in the MG universe. The declassification of the ''''official'''' CIA files just revealed to people that he was originally a US operative who saved the world from nuclear war. It's why it's stated in MGS4 that the public look back on him more favorably after the declassification.

[@21stCenturyNabokov]

"I'll clean up the disinformation with nanomachines."-Metal Gear in a nutshell

[@webtalks184]

this ending was perfect

[@nobeyone]

Confused snake

[@uastyrdzhii]

"Everyone knows how... Badass Big Boss was. Wouldn't be cool to have him as president? But a nice one? I can be the nice Big Boss" Kek

[@lex_4242]

Bb did nothing wrong

[@mr.monkey354]

​@@lex_4242Tell that to the parents he killed to raise their children as soldiers for infinite war

[@Peetah.]

We need more presidents like solidus snake tbh. #solidusfor2024

[@nobeyone]

Hashtag I trust solidus!

[@Peetah.]

@@nobeyone god bless solidus

[@rachelcobb2209]

Armstrong will bring back the American dream

[@brandonperez8977]

1:48

[@01100101011100100111]

"Why do you look like Big Boss?" "Cheapfakes."

[@GildedZ]

"I don't know. I didn't ask to look like this. "

[@liquidladdy]

1:54 is something I've always wondered. How did Solid not notice a president elect looking just like him? I guess it could be excused since he was a hermit in Alaska, but by MGS2 he should be well aware his older bro is pulling an epic prank lol.

[@nobeyone]

He strikes me as the kind of guy who just accepts whatever is happening at that point in his life

[@Treblaine]

I mean, would you notice if you met someone who looked like Joe Biden but was younger and sounded and acted completely different?

[@liquidladdy]

@@Treblaine *Stares at Hunter Biden and Beau Biden* Jokes aside that's a fair point, but for Solid Snake he should faaaar more skeptical when someone looks like him. Poor guy lmao.

[@nickvr-6961]

Supongo que The Patriots planearon que George Sears sea famoso ya siendo viejo y cuando empezó a aparecer en la televisión este ya tenía rasgos de vejez (ya que recordemos que Solidus envejece mas rapido que los demas clones) por eso simplemente Solid al ver a Solidus solo vio a un tipo parecido a el pero muy viejo como de unos 55 años de edad y Solidus de unos 25 años no le hizo mucho caso. Esta es mi teoría.

[@jzethotshot]

1:32 nanomachines without son

[@jdjdhenifjdbdjxjs]

the technical difficulty screen at the end was caused by an ongoing fiction come to think of it

[@nobeyone]

Perhaps...

[@MoskHotel]

"Mr. Sears, how come you look 70 years old, despite being the age of 50?" If you're going to take any advice from me, I'd stay away from cigars and cigarettes. That stuff carry some nasty effects on your physical appearance - as well as your pair of lungs."

[@greasy_dan_]

"You're the spitting image of Big Boss."

[@DHulseman]

Really digging the Metal Gear content btw, it’s probably my favorite video game series so this has all been really fun to see

[@nobeyone]

Love me some metal gear

[@PvtMartin78]

I can't believe his opponent would try to put those child soldiers out of work.

[@hazardouskiwi5944]

never stop making these

[@nobeyone]

Aye aye captain

[@oyora]

Nano Machines? you got my vote

[@thiagorottjer87]

justin trudeu be like: fidel castro i dont look like him

[@OmegaCorsair]

I Would Vote for Solidus

[@nobeyone]

SOLIDUS 2024

[@reddish776]

This feels like a video made 15+ years ago in the best way possible, great work!

[@nobeyone]

Thanks! Glad it has that feeling to it

[@HittokiriBattousai17]

The likehood of election going up right after "I could be the nice...Big Boss..." cracked me up big time.

[@Z-Mikes00]

"what is you stance on the epidemic of child soldiers across the globe in combat?" Fucking dead 😂

[@abohachuk4765]

Safe to say Solidus's public image as George Sears was carefully crafted to not resemble Big Boss. That would include his physical appearance - a clean shave and a more conservative haircut might have been just enough... Whenever drawings of George Sears appear in cutscenes he doesn't even look like any of the Snakes. Solidus must have adopted the Big Boss inspired look only after his presidency was over and his crusade against the Patriots began.

[@MaximilianoAedo]

This is perfectly in line with the lore of Metal Gear.

[@LinktoLinkGamer]

This is the real presidential debate. The government doesn't want you to know man.

[@nobeyone]

They’re trying to silence solidus, man

[@claudiocozzi4425]

Turns out Solid Snake voted for him because his party in Alaska also gave more funds for husky sled riders

[@nobeyone]

100% he did that

[@yellowshirtfellow]

Kept you waiting, huh?

[@coralsss]

Get that crooked Solidus out of Office! We need a strong Senator type to make america great again!

[@cobaltroguex]

Can't fret over every egg!

[@obscure4847]

my opponent is a liar and cannot be trusted

[@behema9815]

NO! That is NOT Naked Snake!

[@strykah92]

"What a pleasant surprise... dad"

[@alexanderglex4600]

"STOP IMPERSONATING HIM"

[@JLCL01]

I appreciate this animation as someone who always wondered about Solidus' life before the events of MGS1/MGS2

[@seanturner1197]

Had Mr. President known of the treachery of Senator Amstrong, the events of MGS2 would have never needed to happen and he'd succeed where President Funny Valentine failed: uplift the country.

[@nobeyone]

HEY Funny Valentine tried his best, ok?!

[@diegomedina9637]

I love how the entire Solidus plot twist relies on Solid Snake not even knowing what a TV is.

[@nobeyone]

That’s a great way of summarizing that

[@KakamiOkatso]

I think After Shadow Moses Snake meet Solidus. In plant, when pliskin face Solidus, he Saya" do you forgotten me, Snake ? "

[@MidlifeCrisisJoe]

This has me seriously wondering what George Sears' whole presidential campaign was like. What was his slogan? What party did he side with? Was he a Governor or Senator beforehand? For which state? There's so much we don't know that could be mined for both lore and comedy potential here!

[@nobeyone]

I know right! So many interesting things

[@TheRealSaintSaber]

Senator George Sears [R] from Colorado

[@alstoyle]

I like how solidus is calling out the patriots in the debate.

[@JGCO115]

Honestly i think the reason Solid and Liquid didn't recognize Solidus comes down to the Eyepatch. Its like how Dr Doofenschmidt can't recognize Perry the Platypus without his signature hat.

[@mercury2157]

Solid knew who he was. He just didn't care. When they meet in MGS2, they both imply to each other that they have some degree of familiarity with one another. All Snake gives him is "you're no brother of mine," presumably because he was already sick of Liquid calling him that.

[@colecote1432]

After a long pause. Governor Sears looks up from the podium and begins his defense. “Do you know what day it is today?”

[@koffeekage]

Sears For Societal Sanity.

[@adonis7626]

I must say to you clearly : this video is a masterpiece. It is not a simple shitpost. The animation tops, the jokes are perfect, the lore is completely respected, everyone is in character. Genius.

[@nobeyone]

@@adonis7626 thank you so much. I love metal gear so I hope that shows

[@Jugeum]

Raiden vs Armstrong debate

[@TheLadderman]

I love it. I know I'm voting for George Sears.

[@JustAskingQuestions8571]

Doesn't matter. No matter which one you vote for, they'll both govern like John McCain

[@kotikbr9395]

Its crazy how nobody told Solid Snake that he looks like a president of US

[@Arkayruz]

This beautiful piece of art is absolutely canon and no one can tell me otherwise.

[@nobeyone]

[@Arkayruz]

@@nobeyone Man. You are truly a genius. Thank you for this beautiful content. Really. Just a suggestion. How about a video of David and Eli meeting each other while they were children and not recognizing each other? I'm drunk so it might be a bad idea. But keep it in mind, lol.

[@axevader280]

wow, what a rude moderator. Mr Ocelot, please take him out to the back and teach him some manners!

[@nobeyone]

Ocelot being a thug who roughs people up for Solidus is a great idea

[@Dubleclick44]

My vote is going for him

[@_Scarface_]

This is also pretty funny considering Big Boss' files in canon weren't declassified until the events of Guns of the Patriots lmao, fantastic animation

[@nobeyone]

Exactly, the speaker was giving off some whistleblower nonsense

[@Jotari]

His military files when he was fighting for the US. I'm sure the rogue stuff he did afterwards when genuinely leading a nation was basic public knowledge.

[@lovethesunlovethemoon]

god i love these, keep on keepin' on

[@CDbiggen]

Getting big early-mid 2000s New grounds flash animation vibes here. Voice acting and writing just right too. Quality stuff.

[@nobeyone]

Thanks, I love that stuff

[@ThisChannel05]

Man was going through accelerated aging. Big Shell happened in 2009 when he looked exactly like Big Boss. Shadow Moses was in 2005 and let’s say he was mid-way through his presidency and started in 2002-03. He probably looked younger and resembled BB much less. Did he still have a beard like BB did? His mullet? For reference, Solid Snake aged rapidly within the final year of his life and looked significantly different physically. It’s not a leap to imagine that Solidus styled himself and was aged less than his predecessor during even his time in smaller political roles.

[@MKG-2033]

Shame solidus doesn’t play a bigger role in the overarching story. He was my favorite villain by far.

[@unoriginalperson72]

Only US president to use a cool sword

[@nobeyone]

Two of them, at that

[@inkblupdubs425]

Another Masterpiece by Nobey One

[@nobeyone]

Thank you thank you

[@yohaneswahyuanggara6351]

Somewhere after the Zanzibar Land Disturbance......

[@plugshirt1762]

I can't wait for the fourth video Naked Snake's suspicious prostate

[@nobeyone]

Hahahahaha

[@Elzilcho87]

I like the cut of his jib

[@Bmat-da-acoustic]

"We need more of them" *Presidental likelihood meter increase sfx* That just killed me

[@Rabomoje]

I would actually like if this was canon.

[@AllTheOthers]

I love that as soon as he said "WE NEED MORE OF THEM" I heard the sound of it going up.

[@garvielloken8494]

Solidus Snake is Funny Valentine of MGS

[@nobeyone]

Never thought about it like that but yea pretty much

[@gionutz9865]

It's sad that he had to step down as president.... *Anyways about those totally unrelated child soldiers*

[@YasinÜnsal-i9y]

Solidus snake 2024

[@jackwilson2062]

An absolute masterpiece, I haven’t laughed like this in a long time :0)

[@seroamv1gaming]

0:19 Solidus had to check his class notes real quick

[@t_hetty1758]

He wouldn’t just be a nice big boss, he would be the boss to surpass big boss himself.

[@wilddog73]

I don't think I've ever subscribed so fast. More MGS content, please!

[@RussellAdlerCIA]

How MGS2 started

[@LostImpact1917]

Thank *you,* for creating something I always wanted to see realized! 😂

[@ricardomiles2957]

Now i'm genuinely curious, how many actually knew how Big Boss looked like? Something similar happens to Solid Snake but it seems like despite their fame doesn't seem like many know anything about them outside the telling of their "legendary" feats. Heck, that happens even with The Boss, kruschev only realizes who the president was talking about after he uses the russian nickname for her

[@syntheticflyingfox]

Nanomachines. The answer is always nanomachines.

[@realkingofantarctica]

You know... I never thought about this before. Oh my God. Could- could Genius Kojumbo not actually be a genius?

[@nobeyone]

KOLUMBO FUCKED UP

[@ExpendableSith]

I just wantrd to say thank you for not using AI recreated voices for this.

[@nobeyone]

No problem! I may not be the best voice actor but until I can get studio quality VAs, I’m keeping my stuff AI- free

[@Sentientglass]

"I could be the nice big boss" Has killed some kids parents to try and make him his son or something

[@nobeyone]

Well he’s usually polite, maybe that’s what he meant

[@malcartola]

my president

[@MisterBones223]

Solid Snake killing Big Boss is basically Hitler killing Hitler so he could get into heaven Outer Heaven