The story of the 2023 New Zealand Election: From build-up to aftermath.

[@Soliloquy084]

I know I’m very late with this video, the Universe hasn’t wanted me to get it made! Or really any video for that matter. Also having not uploaded in a long time and with the topic now out of the zeitgeist I’m not expecting a lot of views; but sharing the video with anyone you think would like to watch it would be appreciated. But even if it isn’t destined for many views I want it to be here if only for completeness. I hope those who find it - find it interesting. So far I haven’t found any errors, but if/when there are corrections I’ll edit this pinned comment.

[@ProfessionalBadPerson]

Meka Whaitiri switching to TPM then being the only TPM candidate to lose is still so funny to me

[@Soliloquy084]

I almost mentioned that, but it felt a little unnecessarily mean to bring it up in the video.

[@benfarmer-webb1016]

It's giving the vibes of UK 2019 election when our third party (in terms of votes only) leader of Lib Dems, Jo Swinson, stood up and said she is a candidate to be Prime Minister before she lost her seat in Parliament on election night

[@sweetascuzz]

The media are certainly pumping TPM up

[@greywolf7422]

@@Soliloquy084 And yet you made quips liberally in the direction of Nationals coalition.

[@Soliloquy084]

I try my best to focus my quips towards those actually still holding public office.

[@OfficialScottR]

Brilliant to have you back. Your video on the UK parliament under MMP is still my go-to for explaining the concept to people, and your videos about NZ politics have always helped keep me informed when I otherwise wouldn't have heard anything about it.

[@Soliloquy084]

Thanks for watching. And it's nice to read that about the UK parliament under MMP video. Explaining MMP was the intended point of that video, so nice to hear it achieved that at least for you..

[@scotthastie7342]

Totally agree, can't believe the government would force people to choose whether to smoke for themselves instead of alleviating them of that burden.

[@Soliloquy084]

I sense sarcasm... but ... do people really have a choice or are they simply addicted? And what about those around them, do they get a choice to breathe in the second or third hand smoke, or even smell the stench when their coworker returns from a smoking break?

[@optimumperformance]

Let’s not forget the government approved stores that would be the only ones allowed to sell them.

[@michaelandres7627]

It's been so long! Good to see you back! 🎉

[@Soliloquy084]

Happy to be back, and yeah it has been very very long.

[@jkitty542]

I have friends who live in New Zealand and plan on sharing this video with them and getting their thoughts. Always love watching these election break downs of yours. You should try doing a similar thing for elections in other countries.

[@Soliloquy084]

Thanks, I hope you enjoy this one too. I have tried before to make one on the Dutch election, since that's where I live. But it didn't work out. Though the Netherlands just had an election too, so if this one was by some miracle a success then I might just make something, it will be a while before the negotiations finish over here.

[@jkitty542]

@@Soliloquy084 Thanks, I am so far! I've heard that you guys are very much going to give Belgium's record for longest time to build a governing coalition a run for its money.

[@Soliloquy084]

Yeah, with the far right PVV being the biggest party in parliament, the Dutch are set to take a long time to get a coalition together, if indeed they even manage to achieve that.

[@elli6220]

This election feels a bit like the 2022 US House elections: the incumbent left-wing party was destined for a wide defeat, but it turned out to only be a narrow defeat that will likely result in a chaotic right-wing governing coalition. Will certainly be interesting to see.

[@Soliloquy084]

It defiantly will be interesting to watch. The latest Curia poll just released had New Zealand First ahead of ACT. I wonder what will happen if when Winston has finished his turn as Deputy PM that is still the case...

[@thematthew761]

Or like what will likely in the Uk where the incumbent party wins a smashing victory and then crashes after a covid bump

[@TheLoyalOrderTLO]

@@Soliloquy084 something tells me david seymour aint gonna be DPM, one way or the other lol

[@Soliloquy084]

Well maybe he can still be the Deputy PM for a couple of months after Winston withdraws his support?

[@thematthew761]

What are the chances he could@@Soliloquy084

[@blocksandbooks273]

Absolutely love your NZ election videos, they are extremely detailed but also fascinating. I've always been interested in NZ politics and your videos are definitely the best on the topic.

[@Soliloquy084]

Thanks, it means a lot to read that. Although I think it's arguable that condensing almost a year of news down to less than 25 minutes probably doesn't qualify as extremely detailed, though I hope the most important points are there.

[@blocksandbooks273]

Yh that's fair enough, I meant more as a very detailed overview. As a lover of all things elections, I do really look forward to your videos, and have watched all of the NZ ones since the first. Its been great to see them continue, even after 6 years.

[@Soliloquy084]

In truth I understood, I was just being pedantic.

[@thegreatzinetar]

Not so glaring omission, but would've been nice to acknowledge the big gains by the Green Party (most seats in MMP history)

[@Soliloquy084]

I mean, I was very happy with that result, given that I voted for the Greens, though also sad that the left as a whole didn't show such gains. So point taken.

[@thegreatzinetar]

@@Soliloquy084 It's hard to balance the pride and the despair of the Green/Left results. Feels like we certainly live in a conservative country now, but at least our minor community feels bigger than ever

[@elli6220]

@@thegreatzinetar Probably similar to in 2020, where ACT gained at the expense of the Conservatives?

[@hellabisys]

It's definitely put a silver lining on this election here in Wellingon, with two green-led electorates and a green-aligned council we'll probably still be getting more of those bike lanes at least

[@wyldhowl2821]

The thing is, Greens tend to be grouped as "left" by default, but they might have had a chance to displace NZF as a coalition partner, if they were willing to disassociate from traditional "left" concerns like wealth taxes, and "social justice", confining their concerns to ensuring that strong climate action & environmental protection continued in the new government. Instead, the new coalition looks like it will be full of climate do-nothings or outright deniers, at a time when the world cannot afford to have environmentally backwards governments. In short, to prevent eco-disaster, Greens need to make sure those stereotypically "side-issues" off the left do not take them off their primary mission - protect the earth's survival. Too late now - the negotiation is done. And this is a general complaint about Greens in most nations. In an MMP system, there is even less strategic incentive to go off-mission for side-issues that might be better handled by traditional "materialist left" parties.

[@marshalvladimir8859]

Hey mate. Glad to see your upload on this election. I was looking forward to it. As a fellow Kiwi, you have been of great assistance to me when studying how our government works. I have not seen any other place which gives such detailed and thorough analysis's of our elections. Thank you very much Soliloquy!

[@Soliloquy084]

You're welcome, I'm very happy they are useful. Thanks for being here.

[@Crick1952]

Wonderful to have you back, I've seen every single video from you and especially your video on MMP for the US and I love your animation style and presentation style.

[@Soliloquy084]

Thanks, it's good to have something to release!

[@bernadmanny]

The animation is on point and you very efficiently explained the situation 👍

[@Soliloquy084]

Thanks, your comment means a lot.

[@B612nian]

Thank you for taking the time to help us all catch up on how elections and coalitions came to be in far away lands (Peruvian in Norway here 🙋🏻)

[@Trolligarch]

Yes! I was waiting for your 2023 GE video for a while and I'm glad you made one. Writing this comment to express my thanks!

[@joshualittle5928]

You just made my friken day! I visibly gasped when I saw ur new video, and they're phenomenal as per usual. Keep up the great work!

[@Soliloquy084]

Thanks for watching, hearing that this video made your day, made mine.

[@nert-13]

Its been 30 years.....finally!

[@Soliloquy084]

I defiantly feels like too long. I have some other stuff half finished too, so hopefully this isn't my final video!

[@Kzzak]

Great video! Wish there was an equivalent of this high quality for our elections here in Aus :)

[@awsomeness4016]

This video makes me wish we adopted MMP here in Canada especially because New Zealand shows how proportional voting can work well in a Westminster parliamentary system but also because it seems to have made New Zealand politics much more dynamic.

[@wyldhowl2821]

Yup. Instead we are stuck dealing with antiquated First Past The Post, which produces shit governments and even shittier politics / campaigning tactics. Our government should have kept their promise to get rid of FPTP - it was their strategic big mistake not to. They might have wanted preferential instead of MMP, but they never had the balls to come right out and say that. Even that change would be preferable to FPTP, but they tried gamesmanship instead of actual reform. and now we are all (still) fucked because of it. .

[@spaceisliterallythemoststu3538]

Damn Long time no see! Happy you’re back!

[@Soliloquy084]

I'm also happy to have something new out.

[@bryantmcintyre3323]

​@@Soliloquy084 please come back more. 😊

[@Soliloquy084]

I'll try, I've got something else partly done

[@SirLaurenceNZ_2]

Really appreciate the effort you put into these for each election. They're great for introducing NZ politics to online friends and sparking discussions :)

[@Soliloquy084]

Thanks, I appreciate you wanting and sharing.

[@Chaosboy229]

As a suggestion for something to include in videos like this, how about coverage of some of the interesting electorate races such as in Ilam, Tāmaki, Wellington Central and the Māori Electorates etc

[@Soliloquy084]

I'd like to do dedicated video on the Māori Electorates actually. Both because they are interesting in their own rights, and because then I could then refer to that video when mentioning them in a election video thus lowering the amount of work required to include them.

[@thegreatzinetar]

@@Soliloquy084 Please do a video on them, I have to explain it often to people and it'd be nice to have a good summary video

[@Chaosboy229]

@@Soliloquy084 I mention Ilam since if one specific candidate won there, it could have changed the landscape of both Parliament and potentially the Government (Specifically Raf Manji and TOP)

[@Soliloquy084]

Yeah, I was following Ilam, and honestly Raf Manji did better than I expected in the final result. But, really, it never looked like he would make it past the Nats candidate, and ultimately there just wasn't any real impact so it got cut.

[@EggsBenAddict]

Great to have you back!

[@Soliloquy084]

Great to be back

[@koalbehy9760]

it feels illegal to be this early to one if your videos. love your content tho ! keep up the amazing work !

[@Soliloquy084]

Thanks, it's not illegal, in fact I very much appreciate it.

[@skuzza405]

this is gonna be a hellish government to live through, but a fascinating case study for future historians

[@Iisdabest889]

Excellent summary as always. I'm an overseas voter myself and was a little surprised to see the special votes go the way they did since my votes went to National, plus I didn't expect ACT get as many seats as they did as with Te Pati Maori, but perhaps I'm a wee bit out of the loop. Here's hoping things get stabilize (IE you don't have to be a trillionaire to afford basic rent in Auckland).

[@Soliloquy084]

Golriz Ghahraman's private members bill, despite being defeated, that would have given expats the vote without the need to return to NZ every three years locked in my vote for them. To be honest the Greens are really the only party that wants expats to vote. Edit: also thanks for the kind words.

[@RJH755]

Hopefully we can make this a one term government

[@MarcTelang]

Wow I haven't checked on this channel in years

[@UFOhunter4711]

Great video, and sad to see the other side of the ditch has returned to its tradition of tip top bread looking leaders you can barely tell apart

[@korakys]

This reads as more of a summary of the media coverage of the election rather than any sort of explanation as to why people voted the way they did.

[@Soliloquy084]

Take it as motivation to make the video you wished it was!

[@napoleonibonaparte7198]

Well, with NZ terms at 3 years, one could expect chaos at that point.

[@Soliloquy084]

Three years? Do you think they will last the whole three years?!

[@napoleonibonaparte7198]

​@@Soliloquy084 That's exactly the point.

[@jeff230394]

Going good so far bruh​@@napoleonibonaparte7198

[@mr.cardno1173]

a little biased but i appreciated the clarity around the specifics of our election process.

[@Soliloquy084]

I really don't mind being called bias. This isn't mainstream media, I'm trying to be honest about my biases rather than attempting to be neutral.

[@keiththomas1180]

​@@Soliloquy084you probably could have better stated that bias at the beginning of the video

[@dimezrecon]

Carbon emissions trading systems: everything becomes more expensive for normal people, politicians get richer from kick backs, and no carbon is reduced or removed.

[@danielgrant-ritchie9407]

Hey great video feel like you could've mentioned the electorate flips but i understand long video! other than that great video and keep up the good work!

[@Soliloquy084]

Thanks, there are always things left out. But that's why we have comments.

[@benadams2565]

Tbh I don't expect this coalition will hold together well, but I wish them luck

[@89Awww]

Woah, I thought this channel was dead! Your video and excel spreadsheet on American politics with mixed proportional representation still inspires me to this day!

[@Soliloquy084]

I'm not dead, I just doubled the number of small children I'm responsible for, while having the number of grandparents available to help.

[@89Awww]

@@Soliloquy084 Wow! Congrats on being a dad and good for you for prioritizing your family! 😊

[@Soliloquy084]

Thanks, the older one is 5 already, the little one just 1 and a half. So it's not all that new.

[@ConnorLonergan]

I don't know if it counts as an omission but the coalition plans involve stepping away from the maori policies passed by the previous government leading to the maori community to protest loudly

[@Soliloquy084]

It's defiantly one of the things I was thinking about when I wrote that ending line. It's really quite a big topic, and I can see it actually taking multiple videos to address, that is if things escalate and I have to make an addendum video.

[@Teag_Brohman15]

I'm willing to bet that National is likely going to lose in 2026.

[@Soliloquy084]

It's funny because six months out I was reading how National will win and then be in power for nine years!

[@Teag_Brohman15]

@@Soliloquy084 well, we'll just have to wait and see

[@callistine8559]

Watching this from India! Very insightful ❤ we're heading into our elections as well and i wish we didn't have the FTPT system and yours instead

[@N1CK6477]

As a person wanting to learn even more of NZ Politics ive been diving even more into anything related to NZ politics wheyher that be in the past or recent events. Ultimately however there is little informative content outside majority propaganda from both sides, so seeing your content has been very insigntful and i hope to see more in the future

[@meevil24]

THE GOAT IS BACK!!

[@Soliloquy084]

You're sweet, I don't think anyone has called me the GOAT before.

[@catbreadisme]

Really love your videos on the elections as it covers an aspect of ao/nz that I'm very interested in, and is done in a way that works very well for my brain to comprehend. I feel that either way we mostly would have gotten more of the same tbh. With the exception to that being Maori and Lgbt+ issues as it feels like they have been tacked on purely as a way to bring the culture war / populism style of politics here. The kind of rhetoric that has been going around, especially online circles I feel is quite violent and it sucks that we are having to deal with that kind of thing here. I've also seen quite a bit of climate change skepticism / out right denial and the politicization of teachers and education which again worries me. Anyway that's just my thoughts! Keep up the amazing work and i hope your holidays / winter break goes well!

[@harrisonkendall2883]

I been waiting for this one

[@Soliloquy084]

I hope the wait was worthwhile. Thanks for watching.

[@RahulAhluwalia]

Labour with its historic 2020 victory, wasted it by not passing anything of significance, and obviously Pandemic Recovery and the recession that followed clearly hindered their plans, but I feel like voters were disappointed. I still voted for Greens(therefore Labour) cause National has no plan (clearly) besides cutting services and helping the upper class. I feel like Labour could have done better in different circumstances, but hopefully the damages of these next 3 years can be rectified post the 2026 election.

[@AholeAtheist]

Basically they need to go back to being actually left wing, but they keep trying to sit on the very center right.

[@shaesmith2831]

I’d be curious to see how long this government actually last. While I’m not too well versed in NZ politics I can’t see ACT and New Zealand first getting along at all in the coalition. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if New Zealand first dropped their support as soon as Peters is no longer deputy PM. It’s interesting to see the quick rise and collapse of right winged governments currently. As you mentioned Liz Trust here was an absolute disaster and almost split the Tory party. And now (while we’re about a year out from the next election) it seems like the tories are going to face one of their worst political defeats in their history. Also, great to see you back. I hope you’ve been doing well these past few years cos I know it’s been tough for a lot of people

[@therealjoediaz]

Holy shit he’s back

[@gabrielking1247]

A mention of TOP would’ve been nice

[@Soliloquy084]

I'm not sure you would have liked it if I had. I likely would have been rather dismissive of their impact.

[@gabrielking1247]

@@Soliloquy084 hahahahaha fair enough

[@timo94752]

Warning: minor rant, highly tangential. I'm all about walkable cities and other iniatives to reduce cars on the road, but I really dislike policy that incentivises people to buy new cars. I mean I get it, they are cleaner. But producing new cars, especially electric, has negative impacts on environment too. Seems counterintuitive to solve a crisis that is caused by overconsumption by consuming more. Also on a personal note: I like it that I can usually fix my old shitbox if issues arise or at least take it to any shop since it doesn't need any special parts or tools to mend. It doesn't have software running on it and it isn't electric, which dodges a lot of issues. So I'd find that less cars on the road is preferred, but those that stay should be built like they used to.

[@noytelinu]

New Zealand had the best pandemic response of any nation, yet their government changed to a right wing one anyway. I hate humanity.

[@mandategaming]

HES BACK!

[@addymant]

Hey, I just wanted to thank you for the comments in this video about the anti-trans bigotry from NZ First. I wasn't really expecting to feel validated by a video about an election, and I really appreciated it. Amazing video overall as well, of course!

[@Soliloquy084]

You're welcome, unfortunately trans rights have become part of the political landscape, so I felt I needed to mention it. and thanks for your kind words at the end.

[@noytelinu]

It is distressing that even down there, the bigots get more power. :(

[@wilyriley_]

as a trans person living in the United States, I’m so sorry my country is hell-bent on exporting its culture war issues to other places (and also incredibly scared for the future)

[@thegreatzinetar]

Glaring omission of Seymours idea of a Treaty Referendum leading to huge protests in Toitū Te Tiriti

[@Soliloquy084]

Fair comment, though I had to draw the line somewhere or I'd end up recording and animating new sections forever!

[@thegreatzinetar]

@@Soliloquy084 I wonder if it'll escalate to the point that you regret not adding it hahaha, hope the govt sorts their shit so you don't have to make an addendum

[@Soliloquy084]

Let's hope they don't warrant their own dedicated video. though if they do I might just have to angrily make.

[@wyldhowl2821]

NZ's MMP electoral system is one I wish Canada had instead of the inefficient & unrepresentative nightmare of First Past The Post. Whatever happens, NZ citizens should be glad that they do not have a system where one party can leverage a minority of voter support into absolute power.

[@hopehoping]

Very interesting - thanks.

[@Soliloquy084]

You're welcome and thanks for watching.

[@roberthooker4970]

If co goverance in the 3 waters should be amended . Only 10 to 20% appointments.

[@marcus7564]

My summary of this election is that labour played a bad hand badly. Though globally i would be intrested in the reaserch of any governments who did not take a covid poll hit.

[@Soliloquy084]

Oh man, you did a much more concise summary than my video! I'd also be interested in anyone in power who did not take a pandemic poll hit, seems there are not many examples though.

[@Dman6779]

its been a bit sad seeing the state of politics degrade in this country over the past year or two, it seems like after covid people started to lose it all over the world... lets just hope that the best case happens and nothing gets done for the next 3 years

[@atfjacknz]

Definitely one of our more intersting elections. While I am happy with the results, I am nervous about how this new Govt will work, already I see cracks and frictions between the parties. I also see that the minor parties have far more power than they probably should have, especially NZF. I hope they work together well, we need some one to move this country more centre and fix the issues that Labour/Greens caused. I just hope they don't fracture our already fractured country even more. I just hope to see more funding to the NZDF.

[@DGAMINGDE]

While I am from Germany I still want to give my comments, especially because NZ is what happens when a former british colony copies German politics (+ Winston Peters). While I am a leftist. I also hope, that the National-ACT-NZ First coalition doesn't collapse, at least not due to infighting. I am strongly in favor of majority governments, in which parties that have a majority of seats form the government as equals. I don't like confidence and supply agreements, as de-facto smaller parties within a government have no direct positions. People that voted ACT or NZ First now have direct positions in government, that have their own autonomy and coalition agreements are a mix of governing parties. I hope that this will not be a "coalition of chaos", but a stable government with strong and healthy debates. Thats much better than one party holding all control within a government and its easier for common people to understand. 3 parties form the government, so all 3 have ministers. One of the 3 is bigger and so it gets the most ministers. I think thats very fair. And I say this as someone who thinks that is strongly opposed to NZ Firsts social conservatism or ACTs extreme economic liberalism/fiscal conservatism. There are times were I support a smaller left leaning party and would hope for it to get a fair share in government.

[@DGAMINGDE]

It will also be very interesting what will happen to the NZ right and especially ACT. They are honestly just a copy of the liberal German FDP, even David Seymour is open about being a fanboy of FDP branding, but the party still holds some more right-wing populist positions especially on climate change. I see there are 2 realistic ways this could end. I will assume that once Winston Peters is no more, NZ First will collapse and after that I see these realistic options: 1. The Austrian Model ACT is taken over by a leader that pushes ACT to the right-wing an strongly anti-immigration sector and they may even drop some economic liberalism. Thats essentially what happened to the liberal FPÖ party in Austria. ACT voters that are in favor of deregulation, but also like free trade and cultural liberalism, split of ACT and form a new centrist and liberal party. 2. The German Model A controversial right-wing populist party is formed in New Zealand and reaches parliament for the first time, even more radical than Winston Peters is today. National is open to work with this party in coalitions, but ACT starts to focus more on their classical liberal values of individual freedoms and this brings them at odds with the new right-wing and could even bring them close to support unheared of grand coalitions between Labour and National or them supporting left-leaning governments.

[@reecev2087]

THE KING OF NEW ZEALAND ELECTION SUMMARIES. BEST EVER LETS GOOOOOOOOOO

[@stuffbuddy4304]

A big omission in this video I'd say would be the aspect of crime. Ramraids, youth offenders, and gangs all had massive news and political coverage during the leadup to the election. I'd also have put more emphasis on the idea of cogovernance and racial tensions on both sides. I lean right and I'm definitely content with the current government, mostly because I'm willing to restrain my criticisms until after the first hundred days. I disagree with some of the things you said in the video, but I can respect the clear effort to be factual correct and fair. I'm glad I was able to watch this video and hear opinions I dont align with from someone in a respectful manner.

[@MalaysianChopsticks]

Bro just drop off the scene two years ago and drop came back

[@Soliloquy084]

I didn't think it was needed for me to stay away forever ;)

[@twifsvsp]

Please come back!

[@weddman100]

Hes back

[@roberthooker4970]

Labours GST idea was bad. Labour should reduced GST by 2 to 3% and introduced wealth tax in someway.

[@michaellyden2580]

Well, well. Look who's back.

[@ProfessionalBadPerson]

Meka Whaitiri’s name is pronounced Thigh-terry I think

[@Soliloquy084]

I did look it up, although I am notoriously bad at pronouncing words, so might well have still got it wrong. Maybe one day I'll figure it out.

[@tonywang1711]

Someone remembered his login password I see…

[@Soliloquy084]

Nah, still lost, just found a computer that was still logged in!

[@cyrillawless]

Chris Hipkins isn’t a problem solver. Everything he touched turned into a disaster.

[@leafyishereproductions4309]

Why are you gone

[@daddyleon]

As a (far) left leaning voter, I found it totally unsurprising and quite fitting for what the rationale was behind trying to re-allow smoking. But saying the quite part out loud, that makes me think they're so comfortable with their ideology they're not even afraid of covering the carelessness and callousness up.

[@Soliloquy084]

It was quite something to hear come out of the finance ministers mouth. It's hard to know what (or if) she was thinking!

[@nathantaylor6785]

given the wildly unpopular policies being pushed through I would be very surprised if this doesnt end up being a one term government. you could have made mention of the greens' historic successes, winning their most seats ever, retaining an electorate for the first time and even gaining another two electorates!

[@Soliloquy084]

They're getting the unpopular things done early in the hope that people forget by the time they vote again.

[@yeetiusmaximus4726]

41th prime Minister? 😂

[@Soliloquy084]

oops

[@andalilbitqueer]

Oh this is about the general election? Dang, I thought this was about the bird of the century smh /j

[@andrejparunovic]

If the Te Pāti Māori is the furthest on the left wing, why don't more people vote for it?

[@Soliloquy084]

We could debate their exact placement on the political spectrum. This version of Te Pāti Māori is far more left-leaning than the version that supported John Key. But let's compare a couple of the major economic policies. Te Pāti Māori wanted a $30k tax-free bracket, and a wealth tax starting at 2% on wealth of $2 million, and progressively rising to 8% at $10 million net wealth. They wanted free dental and medication for families earning under $60k. The Green Party also wanted a tax-free bracket, but only up to $10k, and their wealth tax was suggested to be 2.5% on net wealth over $2 million. And their headline policy was free dental to all. They are really quite close together economically. But, Te Pāti Māori is also a party explicit in wanting programs aimed at Māori, for example, a quarter of all health funding to the Māori Health Authority and a $1 billion fund for Māori-owned community energy projects. Some of those policies are good and address real issues, but in totality, they inevitably make Te Pāti Māori a party for Māori, and the party doesn't really appeal to many outside of that target group.

[@decarbonatedsprite8382]

HE'S BACK FROM THE BRINK

[@benrisk4374]

How exactly is it that new zeland can clame to have only center left and center right political party's but then also clame where so innovative with our policies. call it what it is left and right

[@tomfinn6634]

Very sad

[@jarodh-m6099]

Thank for this explanation. It makes me marginally less sad about the results. I know I should not keep my hopes up about governments in the English-speaking West, but I had hoped Labour could pull through again.

[@reefjoshua]

Labour left a bitter aftertaste in a lot of voters mouths. I don’t believe voters really cared what the right wing had to offer, they only cared about sticking it to the government of the last six years. I doubt the voters will appreciate this coalition either, maybe national will win a second term (Since governments only last two terms in NZ) but the voters will eventually turn on the right wing parties.

[@reefjoshua]

But what would I know? I’m just a dumb 26 year old! (And I think socialism is cool 😎)

[@Soliloquy084]

I agree with your assessment. Part of this is that the voters felt it was time for the other side to have its turn.

[@silenthawkstudios9924]

"maybe national will win a second term" Unless the coalition is pursuing a strategy of getting all the unpopular policies out of the way in the first year, and then doing the more popular policies as they get closer to elections, this coalition is quite unlikely to win a second term. There have already been multiple scandals, calls for resignation and overall demonstrations of a chaotic government; and this is already having an effect on polls despite them only having been in government for a month.

[@reefjoshua]

@@silenthawkstudios9924 I agree. This coalition will likely lose the next election. I’m still not convinced it’s nationals election to lose, yet. (I hope the left bloc win nexts election though)

[@prechabahnglai103]

If society really agrees that smoking is bad (as do I), then tobacco should have been banned altogether, not selectively ban for life group of lawful citizen who should enjoy the same rights as everybody else once they reach age of majority.

[@Soliloquy084]

I wouldn't mind a total ban, and I get your point, though if someone is addicted it might seem like a punishment to have the substance suddenly removed when it was legal before.

[@AholeAtheist]

Nah, it's actually less harmful to keep it legal. Prohibition is terrible. At least with legal product you can take tax in order to pay for the health costs.

[@pandahugs2271]

most of my friends in aotearoa nz voted their party vote for maori even though they weren't part of the maori seats because they were a bit disillusioned by labour's centre right approach but nice to see the greens gain a lot of electorate seats

[@Soliloquy084]

That's interesting. Party voting Māori is a tactically poor choice. They are likely to win more electorate seats than party vote seats, thus getting overhang seats. Overhang seats are extra seats and so shift the proportional balance of parliament in favour of the party/side that gets the overhang seat. So assuming you accept that Te Pāti Māori is on the left, then a party vote for them is actually half a vote for National!

[@brucepain-iw7xd]

Hardly a balanced viewpoint...not worth watching...an unhappy lefty methinks.

[@Soliloquy084]

Fair but I take that as a compliment. My goal is not to be unbiased, but to present my perspective and be honest and upfront about what I believe (and thus what any bias I have might be).

[@RandomVidsforthought]

Your name and your subscriptions really are a pain in the arse

[@silenthawkstudios9924]

@@Soliloquy084 As another lefty myself, I actually think this is probably the least biased video on this subject I've seen. Good job.

[@AholeAtheist]

Balance is dumb. Objectivity is key, and if this guy was actually more objective in his descriptions here, you would be calling him even MORE biased. If I was you, I would start watching everything that you initially think is "not worth watching" because your education level and instincts are putting you wrong.

[@brucepain-iw7xd]

Fair enough

[@JackDrewitt]

its silly how the description of results to nz elections never ends

[@cyrillawless]

This video is a simplistic and not very accurate view of the year.

[@zanjose9806]

i left NZ two years ago and i couldnt be happier, especially after this election. I pity my close friends that are still there and will have to for quite some time, absolute brain drain will continue there. When, comparatively, essentials such as capital gains tax are nowhere near being introduced, and on top of that egregious tax cuts for the upper income brackets are introduced, its hard not to feel further despair for the nation's future. It is embarrassing to see the country vote in for a guy who couldn't pull his weight and borderline shat his pants during the debates. It is hard to be optimistic about any of the policies that they aim to introduce. On top of that the embarrassing tough on crime policies that regurgitate war on drugs rhetoric... it's all just so absurdly comedic. As for the smoking ban repeal, it's disheartening to see how a culture change had been achieved only for it to be potentially reverted. Compare it to places where it is heavily engrained into the culture, NZ couldve easily become smoke free, those who use have shifted to vapes with not much issue by now, all of it just to potentially go into the bin. The hope that remains is that the price levels and getting used to vaping by now will bring very marginal increase in tobacco consumption, but i guess we'll have to see if consumption by taste really has changed by now or it was just the price level.

[@narborg]

Act's treaty referendum defiantly a hole. I have a sneaky suspicion that it might be less than 3 years before you do the next NZ election video....

[@roberthooker4970]

Winstone getting long in years.

[@optimumperformance]

Before making this video maybe you should actually read the treaty

[@explodingwolfgaming8024]

Commenting 4 algorithm

[@Soliloquy084]

Thanks

[@Jonas_M_M]

I am pleased with the results but not overly enthusiastic, supporting the government first and foremost out of a partisanship for right-of-center politics. Scrapping prohibition on smoking is undeniably great though, and tax cuts funded by spending cuts would be welcome!

[@Soliloquy084]

It's hilarious to me when Kiwis complain about New Zealand's taxes. I live in the Netherlands where taxes are much higher, and there is already a wealth tax, and the health system is insurance based, and some still argue that the Netherlands is a tax haven! And a strong disagree on the prohibition on smoking, though that is likely an opinion coloured by me living in a country where smoking is more socially accepted. Not the direction I would want to see my 'home country' take. Anyway, well done on watching someone from left side of the political spectrum. It's good to be able to get out of your bubble.

[@thegreatzinetar]

Is it just the repeal of prohibition your happy with, or the repeal of Smoke-free as a whole? Personally I'm disgusted to see tax-cuts for the wealthy funded by loosening controls on addictive substances.

[@Jonas_M_M]

​@@Soliloquy084, On income taxation, balancing the books still should take priority here. On smoking prohibition, you are the only person of the left, I know, that is at least consistent on the issue - with most being for pot legalization On left-right polarization, everyone should be open to all ideas as long as they don't have malicious intent. By the way, would you be interested in making a video on the '23 Dutch election after the negotiations?

[@NafaniaNightshade]

While not an omission, since you did briefly mention it, and would be far to specific for the scope of this video, I just wanted to bring up what has effected me the most this election. It has been particularly horrifying to me and my community; LGBTQI+ people. Green were planning multiple steps in their policies to improve our existence - an example being finally getting around to banning forced non-consensual intersex reassignment at birth, while labour were much more quiet about it although at least not negative to us. While the other parties, especially NZ First and ACT, were outright hostile to us. After we made so many strides in progress, to see a government that is actively treating us as a political bowling bowl is depressing. I also should note that a lot of the members of the queer community tend to find themselves in more struggling social brackets, and the fact that the current government is taking multiple strides to harm the welfare of those of us that struggle the most will also broadly harm our community more than the average population. I just hope these 3 years go by without too much misery.

[@silenthawkstudios9924]

I agree with most of what you're saying completely, but this part: "members of the queer community tend to find themselves in more struggling social brackets" isn't quite true, most statistics point towards the LGBTQ+ community generally being part of the middle class, rather than part of the working class.

[@AholeAtheist]

cEnTeR lEfT, cEnTeR rIgHt *Facepalm* Labour have been center right since 1984, and National are closer to far right than they are center right. FFS.