Solipsism and the Problem of Other Minds

Join George and John as they discuss and debate different Philosophical ideas. Today they will be looking into Solipsism and the problem of other minds.
Solipsism in the belief that the only certain knowledge one can have is the existence of their own minds, everything outside of their minds can therefore be doubted. Along with the material world all other minds are brought into doubt. A Solipsist will argue there is no way any other mind can ever be directly perceived or verified and so they have every right to believe they are the only mind that exists. The Solipsist therefore believes they exist alone in reality.
In this video George will be arguing from a Solipsist position whilst John will discuss the flaws with the theory.
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[@itsgeo752]

Eric Ten Hag at 7:40 ?

[@therealjohndoe3862]

"I think, therefore I am...alone."

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Haha this was a good one.

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[@juanm620]

I exist just as much as you all do, I promise you all I have a conscious, I see, I hear, I feel just like you guys do.

[@malikc6]

As a child, I believed this. Apparently it’s very common for humans to feel this way when quite young.

[@greiratOS]

Theory of Mind is the feeling that others have minds and consciousness such as you do. I believe this develops around age two (that may be wrong), but the point is it develops when you are incredibly young. The mere fact that Theory of Mind exists is an interesting topic in our evolution as social animals.

[@Animalis_Mundana]

You mean before we're conditioned?

[@johnjohnathan1939]

@@Animalis_Mundana "conditioned" implies that there are other things besides yourself to condition you, therefore contradicting solipsism since solipsism is the philosophy that only you exist.

[@residentfelon]

@@Animalis_Mundana great point

[@maciej.ratajczak]

​@@johnjohnathan1939 Well, it would be a part of our own consciousness, or subconsciousness, or unconscious, conditioning us, and not some external entity. It would be a type of self-regulation poisoning us with what we deserved, i.e. if we're gullible, we deserve to be hood-winked. In the end, we would awaken to the inhibitive self-imposed conditioning and experience spiritual awakening (or 'enlightenment' or 'nirvana') and become the fully aware Buddha/God again. Perhaps that's the point of life; to forget we're God (after all, God gets bored of being omnipotent) by making itself a baby and having to grow up and then re-experience the magical moment of remembering it's God.

[@micahwright5901]

“Are there any other solipsists out there?” is an inherently hilarious question. I love the idea that I’m the only person that exists and I just heard that joke. The meta nature of any discussion about solipsism is marvelously humorous.

[@zerototalenergy150]

I am not the only person that exists.. it is just that no one has access to my consciouses..the same with..you. I believe that you of course you exist.. but in order to "KNOW" that you exist, Imust have access to your consciousness,which of course is not possible. BELIEVING canot be equated with KNOWING..each human being has his own consciousness..you can not be in my shoes,you came alone you will go alone,,, philosophy is always ABOUT AND ABOUT AND ABOUT ..never ever hitting the center.T there is a difference between decribing the the taste of an apple and TASTING THE APPLE ..

[@micahwright5901]

@@zerototalenergy150 Right. But solipsism as explained in this video is specifically about adopting the idea that one is the only true consciousness in existence. I know it’s me because I can observe myself directly. Under that assumption , I also somehow created this video that taught me about solipsism… which includes a joke about how the philosophical zombie narrating it is actually the only true consciousness. The meta of it all is quite amusing.

[@briley2177]

@@micahwright5901 That’s the problem… you couldn’t have created a video that taught you something you didn’t know, because before you watched the video you were ignorant and you’d have to known the thing that you taught yourself in order to create the video before you watched it. A single mind cannot simultaneously “know a thing” and “not know a thing;” these are direct logical negations and both cannot be simultaneously true - that’s a contradiction. The very fact that you learned something new from a mind that is seemingly separate from your own disproves the notion of solipsism.

[@johnjohnathan1939]

@@briley2177My thoughts exactly. I had this same thought when I first learned of solipsism, but you put it into words more eloquently than I could've.

[@nuggs4306]

@@briley2177 The very idea of logic and contradictions is worldly knowledge that you gained from the universe you live in, and therefore could mean nothing assuming the idea of solipsism is true. Assuming the universe you live in is all in your mind (which is neither possible to prove nor disprove by definition), then nothing you know may matter, as it came from the fake perception.

[@AnitaRUFP3]

I remember well, that when I was three years old I asked my mother, "If I can't see other people live their life and see their thoughts, how it it possible for them to exist?". I remember too, her shock. She spent much of my childhood trying to convince me that the world and it's people are real. Solipsism can get so deep, I can become so disconnected, that my motivation to do anything can disappear. Why bother if nothing is real? I really have to work hard to bring myself out of that space so I can be functional again. I've really been struggling and suffering for the last three weeks.

[@Premepaul]

So has my brother. A very similar time period as you. We’ve been praying for a breakthrough. Do you mind if I add you to my prayers?

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PremePaul me too please i’m only 13 and i’m getting so stressed :(

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[@Yusuf-bz9xh]

I am a schizophrenic with some solipsistic tendencies, partly due to the isolation that my mental illness causes me. I have delusions that I am mentally controlling world leaders and entire populations, and I have some feelings of guilt for tragic world events. I really loved your video and it really helped me. Thank you so much.

[@minehike]

See, I remember the first time I had full consciousness, remember vividly saying I’m here. I didn’t know my family and not even there names. is like I came to this body. I believe that how we think is how the world is going to go, the manifestation rules applies here. If you believe it enough it happens and trust me it happens It’s a narcissistic way to see the world but I cannot explain my life to no body without thinking I’m crazy. I even had to get a therapist were we discuss this and she don’t get me like everybody else. We will see in the future if we are actually going to be “awaken” (referring to remembering who we are) I believe this is why we are here, my father has the same beliefs and I didn’t even know. He thinks his god in a world that he created. My believe is that maybe I was feeling alone so we created the universe so we don’t feel alone I feel energy around me and sometimes I can manipulate it, I have found people with the same “skill” and the crazy thing is that we feel it at the same time and in the same position. This world isn’t what we all think. We aren’t meant to scape the reality but to master reality. It’s the story of your body not your soul.

[@2tehnik]

I love how the video goes from it being about the problem as a possibility to George trying to defend it as a metaphysical position.

[@sifugurusensei]

I often pretend that everything and everybody isn't real. This thought makes me be brave.

[@Strange9952]

No one can prove you wrong either. 😉

[@synchronoise71]

I’ve had a few psychedelic experiences where I was the only thing in existence. Very scary

[@loosescrew1526]

Been there

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Bruh it’s the craziest feeling

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What drug are you on, man... 😁

[@deathbydeviceable]

You didn't hear the echoes? Yeah ive been there and it wasnt scary at all. It was like 10 million voices screaming at me at once. I became the ocean your creators beached upon 😂

[@mikekroll8294]

I see it that we are one consciousness experiencing reality from all of life’s perspectives and with amnesia. Before you are in this world you knew everything and life is the process of remembering. This is what I heard the Greeks thought. And as for the Buddhist. Treating all life with respect because it is essentially apart of yourself. When we die we are stripped of our egos and remember who we are. Like many leaves on one tree.

[@foxx180]

I as of this day, officially love whoever created this channel. Seeing that I have created you, meaning that I love mySELF. You don’t have a mind and I’m only talking to my self. I obviously created this world to see if I can have fun with myself 🥴 All seriousness though, thank you for the content. Glad I’ve found this channel.

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none of you are real

[@questioneveryclaim1159]

When I was a child I wondered if things were real or just a dream eventually "surprise" convinced me I wasn't creative enough to come up with all this on my own.

[@PowerFromAbove]

"Philosophical Zombies with dead consciences all around me" is a whole mood.

[@BlindSwami_]

I wouldn't say I think I'm the only mind that exists and everything is in my mind, rather that I cannot be certain that this isn't the case. Because of this, my inner world is pretty much just as meaningful as any other world that may or may not exist. It's pretty much a work around to the whole idea that we are just an insigificant speck of dust in an infinite universe, thus we don't really matter. If I or anyone else matters in my inner world, then hey they matter.

[@robertjsmith]

Are you a person with awareness ? Or are you awareness ?

[@nielsp1380]

Love this video so much it helped me so much to understand solipsism and I find it quite funny that the whole video is 2 guys (2 minds) arguing about if there are other minds than themselves

[@PhilosophyVibe]

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[@micahwright5901]

It’s a lot like the Fry and Laurie sketch where both people think they’re the psychiatrist 😂

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It IS the same mind🤍💡🤝

[@kaiirizarry3034]

I utterly despise this philosophy. The only way out of it is through yourself. In my case, I noticed that in all of my dreams that I can only hear and see, but my senses of touch, smell, and taste are not present. I have had several dreams where I’ve been hurt but I have felt no pain. I can only “see” and “hear” let’s say someone hitting me but not feel it. Whereas in external reality I can perceive not only all the known senses but everything is experienced much more clearly than a dream. Also there appears to be a continuity in this reality whereas dreams are consistently changing. In my own opinion, it just seems the mind is better at receiving data and interpreting it, than it is at creating one entirely on its own. At least in my own case.

[@sophiziayi7599]

Yeah but wt if there is sth beyond the senses in ur reality? U are not supposed to or u don't necessarily have tofeel and even be like tgus in ur reality or ur another reality I mean who siad the senses defines reality?who says there is a reality and THERE EVEN IS STH. (This is frealing me out i can't sleep now)I mean it doesn't sometimes make any sense to me.

[@sophiziayi7599]

@@dermalion6410 it's all about the connotations or stuff we made to become more and more accustomed to wt we built for ourselves . I mean says who?

[@SatisfyingWhirlpools]

@@dermalion6410 I’ve woken up 3 times in the same dream once

[@matix8279]

Right its only make me more gloomy Especially the other minds problem

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[@himanshutahiliani1235]

This was an AMAZINGG use of private language theory against solipsism I had not seen before. Big fan here, guys, keep up the good work!!

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[@nielsp1380]

Bro this video made me realise what a 'dumb' theory solipsism really is

[@himanshutahiliani1235]

@@nielsp1380 well, it is quite extreme in its logical conclusion.

[@nielsp1380]

@@himanshutahiliani1235 I don't understand your sentence

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[@ItsHollowfied]

If life is all mind then everyone is you and know everything about you.

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[@rexultimatum2588]

I feel like at the root of all huge egos and narcissism is that these individuals are just very solipsistic; they cannot see or perceive that anything is real other than their own minds/ego hence their unfavorable demeanor towards others as if everything else exists only as secondary functions is because of their flawed self thwarted perception.

[@jdlflagstone6980]

Flawed how? If it is not possible to prove something, then it seems logical or even necessary to doubt it. I think solipsism and simulation theory are very similar.

[@Kikithefilthyrichwitch]

Because God want to experience life in every shape or form ❤❤❤❤

[@pavitsohal6067]

solipsism is an entirely personal philosophy i have discovered. it can be used effectively for self motivation and in existential crises - but it isn't the whole truth. a matter of fact is that no human ever can contemplate the entirety of the world/god/existence/universe/life (all synonymous to me). even in the mind of a solipsist a great grey area exists as to the root and cause of his own existence ; and this grey area can never be solved - never. so the only function of solipsism is to organize, minimalize and boil down the facts of the world as we know it to the self - it is very much like throwing all the furniture in your home into one single room. howbeit thats ALL its can do. one more thing that solipsism reiterates is the perceptuality of the self's existence. whether or not other selves exist forever - it is true that you the reader shall live forever - you were never created nor will you ever be destroyed - you were always there and will always be there . peace

[@OceanicMemory]

The problem with manipulating the reality is that it reveals that you are dreaming, it kills the realness of the experience therefore it would not last long for you, it's like using cheat codes in the game, you could skip all kinds of missions and objectives without any problem, it kills the journey, no one wants to be trapped in a lucid dream, always wake up into the same place with no way out! So the only way is to hide the fact you are dreaming, no access to the truth, no past memory and also the limitation of though process all help you believe that you are not dreaming, you are living and it's all real, you feel pain, you get sick, you are a powerless ant, playing God is boring, you have access to anything, there is no goal or need, at best it's just mindless masturbation without any meaningless experience, there is no game without no rule, and the rule is limitation, it adds all kinds of mini games to enjoy, a long lasting experience, a life story with real characters for you to tell yourself, it's the perfect design. Still I'm not saying it's the truth, but I think if you think about it, it could work when you are the only conscious mind, you could use a dream machine to fool yourself into live like this, full of meaningful interactions. But still it could be wrong, you could be a multidimensional being that could pilot endless conscious minds, switching between them to process them all at once, like the way CPU works, it only could process one thing (thread) at a time, the crazy fast switching cycles between these processes in the queue lets you experience running all the apps at once.

[@OceanicMemory]

@connextro Yes, you identified as a human would never do that experiment, but you as the eternal conscious being would play all kind of games, there is no good or bad or any real truth for you in the game, it's just rule sets, and for limitation to work you have to have rule sets, pain, pleasure, and all kind of things for punishing rewarding systems, otherwise there is no game! Still no one forced you to believe this bullshit, you are the one who determined what is real or not, if you believe this experience is real and you are living in base reality then you act on it, it's real for you. it's all fake theory for you so why bother thinking about it, if this experience cause pain and suffering for you then maybe it's time to realize it's a game, that take away the seriousness of it, you would enjoy the moment of experience instead of looking for pleasures or solution in future or looking back and remembering bad memories, it doesn't matter, it's just an experience, living like a human in a cause and effect logical world, for me it's just another dream, but with other rule set, it's way more stable, and you create more meaningful interactions in it because of this systemic design.

[@OceanicMemory]

I'm not talking about what is real or fake, it's silly looking at things this way, brain is just an object in the reality, a place holder, a receiver, like an icon, it doesn't do anything, believing in material world is the base of the problem, you can't see beyond that cause you limit yourself to it. research non-duality, you attach meanings to these objects, everything is real when you have no access to higher realities, it's all about knowledge and access to information, if you have no memory of it then you are limited, you shape your belief to be compatible to your vehicle of experience. I'm not here to talk about debunking physical reality, it's real for me too because I pilot a physical human body, if you start working on other vehicles in your mind, you see it's all the same, input/ output sensory devices, they all filter data so you could experience a reality compatible to that vehicle, it's so advanced we have no clue what we are dealing with. So all I'm saying is that limitation is what makes the game, you have to have rules, otherwise it's chaos and meaningless interaction, the belief that everything is this cause and effect material world create a solid dream world to live in, to wake up in and create long lasting experience. That's it, there are endless realities you could experience, you could even create your own even with limited human mind. anyway, It's just about your point of view, you could limit yourself to whatever you want, it's the truth for you, but there is higher truths, I seek beyond the logical world, it's magical but it's strangely there, like a universal mind behind all the things we experience, even our bodies, like a machine to create cause and effect system. It's just amazing, there is nothing to worry about, it's just fun to find what you are, it's not a religious belief, it's direct experience for many who go to this path. anyway, it's not serious, when you wake up from these dreams, they lose their powers, you realize you are beyond it, this way you should not have anxiety, it's your world, we have to grow up and trust this world we are living for now. Good luck

[@shannontaylor1849]

@connextro Yes! Now you're getting it! :-) All of 'us' are at the center of everything, just like everything else. Like momma said, "You're unique... just like everybody else." Thus, the limitation game- the one place 'we' are free to lose our perception of the centric universe experience by living the experience.

[@uk_picker7307]

The fact that you're able to read what I am writing and understand what I am saying, means I exist and I can communicate with you and discuss solipsism and maybe learn from eachother and establish new perspectives on life and reality through sharing collective knowledge and understandings. However, you think that it is only you that exists and the universe is created by your consciousness? Ok let's say I think that too, so does that mean that you exist only as a result of my mind creating you and because I can talk to you and see you and when I'm not thinking about you or talking to you or seeing you, you don't exist? No. If you hadn't have read my comment you wouldn't have likely known I existed, but that doesn't change the fact that I did exist before this comment and will exist after this comment (until I die of course), and exist now. So do you, and you will continue to exist because you are, we are, the epitome of life. Also, to ask the question "is my mind the only one" first needs language and understanding of said language to articulate the question. Where does this language come from, if not other minds (or other forms of consciousness)? Language always precedes us and it must come from without us. Without language coming first, the world and ourselves are both unintelligible. More broadly, you might say that solipsism is an unfalsifiable hypothesis. You can neither prove or disprove it, it changes nothing about how the world we experience works, you gather no knowledge from choosing to believe in such a hypothesis. Let me put it this way, solipsism states that you can't be sure of anything other than your own existence (consciousness), that means you can't rely on the empirical beliefs or scientific knowledge (thoughts, beliefs, evidence etc) that you have based your beliefs in solipsism on. It's a self defeating hypothesis with no end goal of enlightenment . . . But of course we can agree to disagree. Oh and believe me, I have a very open mind and have played devils advocate with myself for quite some time and studied the varying philosophical views and beliefs that make up solipsism. But ultimately as I've said, its indefinitely self refuting and meaningless. The long and short of it is "solipsism is a stupid self defeating hypothesis, disguised as a philosophical thought experiment". Theres a reason most respected philosophers won't even engage in such bullshit.

[@OceanicMemory]

@@uk_picker7307 I don't agree with solipsism, it's a faulty way of seeing the world. I don't mix human mind with universal mind, in that sense I am you and you are me, the difference in experience is just time, and time do not exist out of time and space reality which is simulated for action, so if you look at it from that point of view, you and I both exists and we are real in that sense because we have the same experiencer behind us, localized human mind is just a filter to create individuality for the interaction in the dream reality, and when you experience it in now moment it all works in real time, and yes this information is useless For me it's just a way to look at this well designed system, it makes more sense for me, it fit in my puzzle board. If you look at it from your human mind and say I'm only real then that is silly, like solipsism, If you look at it from the source of your own experience which in beyond these objects, then you see it's all you interacting yourself forever, that is a real light and everything else is just a reflection, only one light source exists, but there could be endless reflections. It's all about including, not excluding. Take care

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[@Skibidi.toilet567]

If of solipsist family one person died,why he dont see him any more? BECAUSE WORLD AND PEOPLE IS *REAL*

[@justarandomguy6877]

Hey i saw in an another solipsism video

[@uk_picker7307]

The fact that you're able to read what I am writing and understand what I am saying, means I exist and I can communicate with you and discuss solipsism and maybe learn from eachother and establish new perspectives on life and reality through sharing collective knowledge and understandings. However, you think that it is only you that exists and the universe is created by your consciousness? Ok let's say I think that too, so does that mean that you exist only as a result of my mind creating you and because I can talk to you and see you and when I'm not thinking about you or talking to you or seeing you, you don't exist? No. If you hadn't have read my comment you wouldn't have likely known I existed, but that doesn't change the fact that I did exist before this comment and will exist after this comment (until I die of course), and exist now. So do you, and you will continue to exist because you are, we are, the epitome of life.

[@LeonardPC272]

I experienced this and still feel like this ever since I saw a ufo in the sky

[@remihudson1237]

Wonderful video. Thanks, and nice touch of humour!

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[@joschroons3589]

This was bloody brilliant!

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[@eriklittlebigg7440]

Just love you fellas! Peace to you!

[@SenzoSimelane]

This is one of the best episodes ever, lovely debate

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[@youretheai7586]

This is the most powerful metaphysical concept there is.

[@ElwoodBergman]

Is there a reason you believe so?

[@OnceTheyNamedMeiWasnt]

@@ElwoodBergman Hey Elwood, why ask?

[@The1stDukeDroklar]

While we cannot definitively prove that there are other minds, it boils down to evidence and probabilities. All evidence and logic indicate there are other minds. So, the odds are it is "almost" certain that there are other minds.

[@imnotsmartbutimdumb]

Such a trippy concept

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I like the scripts on this channel, but my God! The AV presentation!

[@ryanconnearney1995]

I love this. I felt like I experienced the "matrix" of solipsism on psychedelics.

[@PhilosophyVibe]

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[@thethinker2695]

This is very mind blowing

[@happierabroad]

Does anyone else feel that they are the only real person here and that everyone else are just actors like in the Truman Show or NPCs like in the Matrix or just characters in a dream? That would explain why people don't make sense and can't see obvious things that I see. Interesting question: When you are in a dream, you can talk to other people in the dream. So are the people in your dream self-aware and sentient and conscious? If not and they are merely creations of your own mind, then how do you know if people in the waking real world are real and self-aware or not? It's impossible to know. Any of you think about this too? Another possibility is shared solipsism, which is that there are a few real people or real souls in this matrix or dream, but most people are NPCs. Matt from the Quantum of Conscience channel talks about this and that's why most people are not awake at all.

[@dogleggedhades0]

So when they start discussing dreams. Wouldn't you have to prove that in dreams you discuss your emotions with others in your dream? The idea is that emotions must be a public language, not that public language can not exist without other minds. The real test is do you ever tell other people in your dreams, directly, how you feel. Projections of your own mind would be aware of your own minds emotional state, so to tell a projection of your mind, "I am sad" is redundant. It would be what we consider as a lapse in sanity. Discussing something with yourself is something we all do, but have you ever had to say, "I am sad" before feeling sad? The precursor to having created the word "sad" is to describe to other conscious minds a perceived emotional state. What's gonna really mess someone up is this. How do you know how you feel, i.e., "Pain" is how someone else feels it. Maybe they feel it how your feel "pleasure" but they hate the feeling they see it as "pain" and maybe out emotional states are more of a social agreement on what event SHOULD make you feel than anything real.

[@efolson]

I love the dialogue and the point-counter point inquiry. Are both characters actually the same person? The voice of the purple shirt guy sounds sort of coarse and un-natural. Is this a separate person, or just the guy on the right with his voice altered?

[@ncp3077]

This is amazing thank you

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[@edwarddankin8138]

It’s a simulation like call of duty. we are One program running on a bigger program. We all have our own universes. Adjusting as we go. Have fun enjoy life and create with love because love is the Energy to hold things together hate is entropy. Great video. I just heard of this theory yesterday

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Thank you!

[@fidanguliyeva519]

Finnaly!! I found the term for this idea that chased me for years! this idea that everything and everyone around me are not real, that this all is just my imagination taken to extreme to the point that I created this all and convinced myself that it is the reality. but i do not state that I'm superior or something, I rather think of it as it's a simulation? similar to the option two you guys mentioned. It is a possibility still.

[@alexfesterman4816]

If it’s a simulation it doesn’t matter what anyone besides you think or what you do. Do anything you want it’s not real. Only you are real. Or maybe you aren’t even real. These forms of philosophy are interesting but entirely useless. It doesn’t matter what is real and what isn’t to be completely honest.

[@beeberry8055]

Are you still struggling with it?

[@Johnamekin]

Subjectivism(its what I call it, Idk if its been a coined term) : The universe puts you in this life, this fleshly existence. The twist is that you are the universe trying to make sense of itself(that part has been around for a while with the new age movement). Thus everything becomes possible. All humans are nodes with their own perspective. You can be the sole conscious being while everyone else is reacting to your higher self projecting them as NPCs(fairly recent concept that I dont currently like very much but its helpful for the illustration) or youre in a world where everyone is it''s own being as it is just as interesting. In a multi-verse of infinite possibilities both can be true at the same time. In fact, if youre the universe trying to experiment with as much possibilities as you can, you WILL make sure both possibilities happen in some way or another. Even an instance that contradict itself; like you're that being from that "Egg" short story by Andy Weir which stipulates you are slowly living every life possible in no particular order and only remember them when you are between existence. In one of them you live a life of enlightenment which splits you from one going back to another life and one proceeding to an higher state within that specific soul. Memories then become a tool to help you learn.. All for the universe to make sense of it all. What I like about it is that it makes it so all religion are right...not only all religions but all beliefs. You die, you go where you subconsciously thought youd go all your life. Heh, there would still be wars over it I bet.

[@scoogsy]

Awesome, love this video.

[@PhilosophyVibe]

Glad you enjoyed :)

[@manafro2714]

Fantastic video, thank you!!!! :))

[@PhilosophyVibe]

You're welcome, thanks for watching :)

[@RKO1988]

I don’t even have access to my own mind

[@sophiesmith3942]

You guys should def turn these into podcasts

[@briley2177]

Philosophy Vibe The notion of a brain in a vat, absent any inputs, is logically contradictory in virtue of our experiences in reality. Specifically, the fact that human beings can learn things, by being taught, disproves this notion. A brain cannot simultaneously “know a thing” and “not know a thing.” Therefore, even if my brain were capable of constructing every other person with whom I interact, my brain cannot manifest a person who knows a thing that I do not yet know, and then use that manifestation to cure an ignorance that I maintain despite supposedly manifesting that other mind that simultaneously knows the thing that I do not know. In order to bestow this invented person with the knowledge they possess, I would have to have this knowledge. But if I possessed this knowledge, I could not be in a state of ignorance myself. A single brain cannot occupy the role of the student and simultaneously manifest the source of the knowledge that cures its own ignorance. The notion that any mind could be the only mind is self-contradictory and, therefore, it is logically impossible.

[@adkinsyum]

For some reason, I always ASSUMED that all those "other me(s)" out there were real. I modeled their reality in my mind ( what it's like to be them) based on a sample size of 1 ...and my head hurts this basic belief... solipsism not compute!!! BEEP 😃

[@jamescarter6071]

well explained !

[@PhilosophyVibe]

Thanks!

[@samirsaha3979]

Sir, could you make videos on Heidegger's being, design & more... please ☺️

[@andrewsallans589]

This format is hilarious I love it XD

[@PhilosophyVibe]

Glad you love it :D

[@j.ro.official4530]

This helped a lot, thanks so much ❤️

[@PhilosophyVibe]

You're welcome, glad we could help.

[@geminibachelor4815]

Mind-boggling.

[@Casinizucchini]

Solipsism reminds me of the Greek concept of hubris. If you are the creator of all, if everything is you, you amount yourself to a god. You deny any and all thought from somebody else. It’s difficult to disprove and prove. To me what disproves it is that when I talk to somebody they can tell me things I did not know. I could think I know something about somebody, simplify who they are in my head, that person can disprove my thoughts of them.

[@timreagan777]

While watching/listening to this video, I blanked out and all I could focus on was that nobody was fixing the wrinkle in that rug.

[@nielsp1380]

Hahahaha

[@Nessquickable]

I don't really get the private language argument. Language could be combined with certain intonation and facial expressions and for the most part it is. The message is still conveyed through it and by reading one's external indications you could connect the words to them and then give that language meaning.

[@bitkurd]

Solipsism is refuted in less than a minute once you go beyond thought. Thoughts are emotions don’t belong to you, they are just passing through you. In some sense, nothing exists therefore everything exists all at once. Everything is the manifestation of the mind including your brain. Nothing exists unless it’s being observed therefore the observer and the observed are one.

[@toto11132]

and thast me im the main mind that i know for sure its real

[@jackieburkhart.4035]

well explained.

[@PhilosophyVibe]

Thanks

[@sevenhoursbehind2048]

loved the vid, made me laugh at the end 💙

[@PhilosophyVibe]

Glad you enjoyed :)

[@ebug64]

Wonderful video, however, it would have been nice to see some continuity with your guys' characters. In the previous series "Philosophy of the Mind", purple jacket was the one arguing for solipsism while black shirt was against. Perhaps you decided to switch it up this time to prevent people from thinking one of you truly believed in and practiced the theory. Either way, truly wonderful and thought provoking points from each of you! Keep up the great work! Or should I say, I'll keep up the great work creating your thoughts and ideas ;)

[@PhilosophyVibe]

Thank you, glad you enjoyed the video :D Yes we did change it up, main reason being the character George (glasses, beard) is usually the one who explains and puts a theory across where as John (purple jacket) raises the objections. So we wanted to keep it to that format.

[@Kurucnik]

To the idea in the end that it could be also like that God created this reality and plugged there my mind (in your case your mind) alone, its not Solipsism anymore in my opinion. Because, in that case, altough living here, I/you still would not be completely alone, because I/you would not be the only one that exists. There would be me and God.

[@flower7939]

this helped tysm

[@TranslationCourses]

My feeling is that we all exist but on different layers. On my layer, nobody else exists. It is my own world. In one way or another layers are transparently placed and thus we see each other and we see tge external world.

[@maryherbivorre3393]

Mind blown 🤯

[@philosophywithanirishaccen4849]

Thoroughly enjoyed this one. Shame Wittgenstein's argument wasn't as knock-down as I'd hoped. Would love to look more into this topic on my own channel!

[@PhilosophyVibe]

Glad you enjoyed :)

[@lifes40123]

Solipsism is pretty much your consciousness is god or the only one created by God which does counter wittgensgein's argument. The proof of god is you knowing your own consciousness.

[@KittyBoyPurr]

It is a knockdown. Trying to imagine a new color proves solipsism wrong and proves Wittgenstein right, that even if you imagine a new color you won't be able to prove it without reproducing it in the real material world. Which you'll never be able to do. Thus proving you wrong or at least, pointless. Body is all there is. There's no separation between mind, soul and body. Mind or soul are just the extension of the physical body.

[@lifes40123]

@@KittyBoyPurr But solipsism is the belief that your mind is the creator. A creator does not need to prove anything if anything and everything is a product of the creator's creation. If I can have conversations with non conscious beings in my dream, then I can also have conversations with non conscious beings when I wake up.

[@KittyBoyPurr]

does not "need" to prove, yes. but "can" it prove? no. which proves solipsism totally wrong.

[@joshpillar9793]

so bascially if i can make my mind think a thought so hard that i start to believe it my mind will be able to create a physcial manifestation of this thought i believe to be real , so therefor if nothing exists outside of the mind that leads to the question. why have i trapped myself inside my own mind am i preotecting myself from the horrible reality of what is or am i the universe going foreward in time to discover how i ( the universe ) is created .

[@descartergosum]

This guys are so High!! I love you 💕

[@PhilosophyVibe]

😂

[@descartergosum]

Philosophy Vibe “I see 👁”

[@PhilosophyVibe]

Interesting...

[@egggge4752]

A possible solution is that like in a dream we are all one mind. This leads to schopenhauer.

[@martenhoyle]

But how do I know if my experience of English is not in some way "private?" Meaning: Do other people hear English the same way I do, the same way they might see color differently than the manner in which I view it?

[@TheSkullConfernece]

I neither accept solipsist philosophy nor reject it, but just think for a moment about whether or not there may be some people that actually are philosophical zombies. We know that anesthetics can shut consciousness off and that certain drugs can shut it off while the person maintains their actions as they normally would (although this may be linked to memory formation more than anything.) I just think it would be fascinating to interact with someone that you could be sure was a philosophical zombie, but the problem is that knowing whether they were or were not may ultimately be impossible.

[@catxcherry]

Trust me, it's not fun. I know someone who is stuck in this way of thinking, but they don't think of it as a philosophical theory, they think of it as the absolute truth. Anything I say to him is "him making life harder for himself" as a test of strength. He says that this will only stop when we "stop pretending we're not all him"

[@joshpillar9793]

and could be another question brought up to why if im everything i would create a world like this why wouldnt i be living in a peaceful world what would my mind or peharps whoevers thought i am be protecting , is it maybe my mind is trapped by not myself, but trapped in a world artifically created

[@mysticladytarot7777]

We know everything within us. Absolutely everything including architecture and physics. We have all knowledge within us. Everything that ever has been or wil be. ❤we are gods but we've been conditioned to have limitations. Multiple versions of us exist and in our realities we create everything but we share this realm temporarily and everyone is God of their reality ❤ simple.

[@SatisfyingWhirlpools]

Size is in the mind the same way that color is

[@JesterAzazel]

Kinda feels like it's being read from a script that the readers are just now seeing for the first time. Especially the one on the left. The informational aspect of this video is good, it's exactly what I was searching for, but the delivery could use work.

[@micahwright5901]

I think it just adds to the quirky nature of these videos. He’s the straight man, so the driest delivery aids his points anyway.

[@anemine]

In a way it doesn't realy matter if other people truly exist or not because its impossible to know for sure. Its probably plausable and beneficial to treat them as if they do and so I do but if I'm being honest I can only know that I exist as I do and nothing else. I believe it's worth being honest if you can even if the truth is unpalatable. You never know when an admitted truth may be beneficial to you or your imagined world at large.

[@uk_picker7307]

The fact that you're able to read what I am writing and understand what I am saying, means I exist and I can communicate with you and discuss solipsism and maybe learn from eachother and establish new perspectives on life and reality through sharing collective knowledge and understandings. However, you think that it is only you that exists and the universe is created by your consciousness? Ok let's say I think that too, so does that mean that you exist only as a result of my mind creating you and because I can talk to you and see you and when I'm not thinking about you or talking to you or seeing you, you don't exist? No. If you hadn't have read my comment you wouldn't have likely known I existed, but that doesn't change the fact that I did exist before this comment and will exist after this comment (until I die of course), and exist now. So do you, and you will continue to exist because you are, we are, the epitome of life.

[@anemine]

@@uk_picker7307 the fact that i just read your comment means nothing other than just that. im not saying you do not exist. in all likelihood you do! im just saying if im being honest i have no way of knowing with 100% certainty that you are more than i perceive you to be. my perceptions are all that i have... the rest is conjecture

[@TheOnlySolipsist]

In the infinite universe, there can only be a singular center. Fortunately that center is within me. I could say it’s in every one of you, but that would just be me saying that.

[@k3nz1e73]

It me stop playing

[@meulware]

its me ❗❗❗stawp

[@k3nz1e73]

@@meulware you really think you can from me off

[@meulware]

@@k3nz1e73 ion know why i would say thsi

[@micahwright5901]

That’s just what a philosophical zombie would say

[@paulhodges4665]

I don't know if I'm alive or dead or alone in my head

[@karim.mmmmmmm]

just to simplify it a bit .... life can be a long dream for example ... time is so relative ... we dream a short dream in one night sleep ... maybe a longer life being can have a human life as a dream then wakes up

[@SunAndMoon-zc9vd]

Regular zombie: Braaaaain Philosophical zombie: Miiiiiind (only a certain type of people will get this and think it is funny)

[@Stovetopcookie]

That was cool. I wonder what Leo Gura would think about it. ???

[@shoshanagavriela929]

Since it doesn't matter...can that be the solution?

[@immortalpuppydreams6862]

YES! Delve into the metaphysics, look into it for yourself. One day soon I bet we'll have more quantifiable data on that as well but until then, play the game like youre going have even more fun on new game plus if you do it right this time!

[@wudubora]

I have so much to say on Solipsism. Guess i need to make a video.

[@Johnny-oq1rn]

As I listened to the pro solipsism theories, I found myself thinking of the falsification principle from your other video. Couldn't we apply that to the increasingly wild ideas such as 1: Only my mind exists 2: Failing that, I might be God, or 3: Failing the prior two, God possibly made the entirety of existence just for my mind? It seems to me that someone who actually believed in solipsism would not be open to falsification.

[@PhilosophyVibe]

Great point, indeed the falsification principle can be applied to the solipsist and one can argue that the conversation is in fact meaningless.

[@kennethscheffler2514]

@@PhilosophyVibe But that doesn't make the case for multiple minds, does it? It just leaves the argument at a draw

[@chevyakacommas5961]

The guy in the purple shirt is making sense. How can the other guy have a position that he can't logically defend... He never explained how anyone who wasn't a conscious being had the capacity to respond to him. If he is willingly continuing to "play the game" that an all powerful God has inserted him into, why would he utilize his time arguing with a Ficticious or Unconscious being about anything? Then again, how could he? It makes sense to a certain extent... With an emphasis on "Certain Extent."

[@Ruchi553]

Love you sir, from India

[@PhilosophyVibe]

Thank you!

[@alemayehudesta2744]

I have got an opposite thought. I don’t know what you call it but I feel everybody is real and I am not. I ask my self do I really exist? because I can’t see myself but I can see others walking, speaking…I have a full picture of others in my mind but I don’t have the physical image of myself in my mind. The only way I see myself is on the mirror which I also question its reality. It’s deep!

[@briley2177]

Hopefully this helps. The notion of a brain in a vat, absent any inputs, is logically contradictory in virtue of our experiences in reality. Specifically, the fact that human beings can learn by being taught disproves this notion. A brain cannot simultaneously “know a thing” and “not know a thing.” Therefore, even if my brain were capable of constructing every other person with whom I interact, my brain cannot manifest a person who knows a thing that I do not yet know, and then use that manifestation to cure an acknowledged ignorance. In order to bestow this invented person with the knowledge they possess, I would have to have this knowledge. But if I possessed this knowledge, I could not be in a state of ignorance myself. A single brain cannot occupy the role of the student and simultaneously manifest the source of the knowledge it endeavors to learn. This notion is self-contradictory and, therefore, it is logically impossible. The same argument works in reverse. If you have ever been the source of knowledge for another mind… if you’ve ever revealed something to someone that they did not yet know, and consequently knew after their interaction with you, then your mind must exist apart from theirs.

[@crytourdada]

do u think maybe we need to find a way to get out of our consciousness to find the real us in somewhere else maybe not even in the universe just like clearing a game theory?Example like u have to do a certain activity or anything to prove to your ownself that this theory is true , and then at that moment after you achieved your theory's answer would we be 'logged out' of earth and the universe or something . if thats true does that make god's existence true as well ? because his the only one capable to transfer our soncsiousness to somehwere else ?