Solomonster Reacts To A&E Rewriting History On Bret Hart Leaving WWE

[@aic8001]

I still maintain that if Bret didn't leave wwf that Owen would most likely still be alive today. Just one of those butterfly effect things.

[@constablekennedy7705]

You are more than likely correct Bro and it’s sad to think about …. RIP Owen Hart … 🙏🏿

[@Five0h4rFinest]

I agree.

[@sonicheroxd5767]

Or if Vince actually allowed Owen to leave and go to WCW in 97

[@Goldenbane]

@@sonicheroxd5767 Y'know, I'm just going to be real. Owen is super popular NOW because of the tragedy of his passing. Back then, Owen was just a mid-card comedy act. If Vince had allowed Owen to leave, it wouldn't have made a difference in the wrestling wars. Yes, we might have gotten some awesome WCW matches: Benoit vs. Owen, Flair vs. Owen, Eddie Guerra vs. Owen, etc...but knowing what goofs WCW were as far as story telling, nothing would have come of anything matches. They were ate up with NWO crap and Hogan ruled that promotion and wouldn't let any one else that he didn't personally love get anything significant. Had Owen gone to WCW, he would have wrestled until his contract was up, then probably just retired to live out his days with Martha and his kids, because he would have made enough money to do so.

[@MazeDaGr8]

This A&E episode was skipable for me simply on the grounds of revisionist history or not, I just DO NOT feel like hearing the Montreal screw job for the 856 thousandth time

[@HoldenMuhKnutz]

I felt the same way. …I still watched🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

[@markfroman738]

They’ve ruined that topic.

[@constablekennedy7705]

Agreed Bro but the WWE and others will milk this situation until the end of time … 🤦🏿‍♂️

[@MrTony-sb6nq]

Been done to death nothing new here

[@troysmith5749]

@@MrTony-sb6nq hopefully the stephanie mcmahon vs brie bella rivalry is 10 parts with each episode being 3 hours each

[@146zigzag3]

The Shawn vs Bret sit-down interview they did on that DVD was when this whole issue was put to bed this special was unnecessary.

[@magsxx9735]

It’s been overdone, yes. But say what you want, you can’t have a WWE rival series without having an episode on Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels. That’s the pinnacle of wrestling rivalries.

[@robertwarf3316]

Yeah that was pretty well done. And it was cool (could have been a deleted scene) where Bret and Shawn were just shooting the shit and casually talking about whatever

[@TONYGILLEY]

It's amazing how Bret and to a certain degree Shawn (I think he feels more religious shame/guilt for his conduct back then, hence his questionable memory...or it's his drug abuse then) are more truthfully honest about that whole fiasco with Montreal, yet WWE just refuses to tell the truth. Pritchard's blatant lie was F'N annoying. With that said, I believe the reason for this interesting take on history is that someone is under investigation and they need to paint him in as good a light as possible. Because if you were to really look at the events of Montreal objectively, you see that the Blame lies squarely on Vince McMahon shoulders. All that turmoil because he couldn't keep his precious BoyToy under control or put him in his place when he got out of line, to say nothing of his blatant violations of Bret's contract.

[@tmage23]

Pritchard constantly lies to make his boss look good. He's a long time stooge.

[@constablekennedy7705]

“Bret Screwed Bret” ……………… 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@lancethefilmguy9392]

@@tmage23 Disagree my friend

[@Goldenbane]

What the anti-Bret fans say about Montreal is that "Bret didn't do what was good for business by lying down for Shawn!!" Good for business, best for business, blah blah blah business. If we want to talk about what was "best for business" than Vince even allowing Bret to go was one of the dumbest things he could have done. That was NOT best for business! Could you imagine everything we missed out on? Stone Cold vs. Bret 3, Owen vs. Bret (but the roles are reversed!), Shawn vs. Bret, Angle vs. Bret, Cena vs. Bret, Mankind/Dude Love/Cactus Jack vs. Bret (Say what you want, but IMO Shawn and Mankind had an awesome match, and I think Bret could have really put even more of a shine on Foley if give a proper match and build), Rock vs. Bret, Eddie Guererro vs. Bret, Malenko vs. Bret, Benoit vs. Bret (this time with the better over all, IMO, storytelling of WWE instead of WCW), Lesner vs. Bret, Undertaker vs. Bret. My gosh, we lost on so much because Vince had his head up his ass!

[@philly_sports1558]

Everyone knows that Bret left because Vince promised to pay him a lifetime contract, realized that he didn’t have enough money to do it, and he literally told Bret to negotiate with WCW. I was born in 1998 and even I know that. This revisionist history BS needs to stop.

[@SonBlackHeart22]

This revisionist history stuff is not gonna end in WWE they already have done it so many times is like a running gag at this point. They even are doing it now with removing mentions of Sasha and Naomi and just pretend they never where characters in tv.

[@comoamosto5224]

@@SonBlackHeart22 & yet they wonder why they lose fans more & more nowadays & get the criticism they do. They never learn from their own history which is why they keep repeating using the same tactics instead of trying to learn not to keep making the same mistakes over & over again.

[@user-py6sy4zm1v]

He had the money he just had buyers remorse less then a year later he paid Tyson over 3 mil

[@jrg5315]

I was born in 2001 and know this lol. Also Shawn saying he wouldn’t ever put over Bret was a ridiculous statement and essentially caused him to flat out leave.

[@Apo_Ni_Baby_Kupal]

@@user-py6sy4zm1v exactly. Even Jim Cornette mentioned it. This is all Vince’s fault. But his fucked up got rewarded.

[@benespinosa6725]

Bret Hart needs to sue A&E And I know one man who can help him and that Man's name is Stephen P Stephen P New if you need to sue an outlaw mudshow or two those are the rest lol that Jingle on jim Cornette's podcast is Absolutely Hilarious and it's also catchy 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@universe-ie2mk]

Stephen p new. Stephen p new. Stephen p new. Stephen p new.😂😂😂

[@benespinosa6725]

@@universe-ie2mk LMFAO I Knew someone would get it I thought nobody would get the reference good catch 🤣🤣🤣

[@dynamitekiddo85]

Ben, you're a genius!!!

[@dvon1097]

@@benespinosa6725 "THEY'LL SUE YOUR ASS!"

[@benespinosa6725]

@@dynamitekiddo85 lol Thank you

[@michaelsinger4638]

Vince had shown time and time again that he can never just acknowledge that maybe HE was the one in the wrong. Maybe HE messed up, he never wants to be the bad guy “in real life.” It’s always someone else’s fault. He was the poor victim who had to do what he did, etc. So it’s not surprised WWE is STILL lying about Montreal. Bret and even Shawn to a degree can own it at this point. But not Vince.

[@therush757]

Dude no sells everything. Not surprised.

[@Apo_Ni_Baby_Kupal]

Dude is a narcissist.

[@kevinlee9929]

Yup. But he's quick to call out Austin, Sasha Banks, and Naomi for not doing what they agreed to (Going out and performing). Funny how he expects everyone to keep their word while he doesn't.

[@pteroid11]

Rich guy’s a piece of trash, more at 11

[@ShinobiAFC]

Yup...and we're seeing the latest, most public example of this playing out now.

[@grantmcphee5149]

Kayfabe is long dead but it was replaced by Vincefabe.

[@HelRayzer12]

If you're a wrestling fan and you know the whole story about the Montreal Screw Job and the relationship between Bret and Shawn I can't for the life of me understand how anyone would be on anyone's side other than Bret. Bret was the ultimate performer and worked his ass of in his craft. He also respected the hell out of the business and just the thought that Bret wouldn't have dropped the belt to Shawn and ended up walking into WCW with the WWE championship is utterly ludicrous. Bret grew up in the business and he had too much respect for Vince and the WWE that he wouldn't have burned bridges just for a shock moment. A performer of his stature doesn't need to do that shit to get over and he didn't want to leave anyways.

[@TheeGlocktopus]

Worked shoot double cross. The whole thing is a work. Watch the video from the PPV. How do you get such clean shots? Why show it all? It was all part of the plan. How did Dunn know what to shoot? Why does Cornette become filled with murderous rage when impotent Russo takes credit for coming up with it? Because Cornette did. But he's kayfabe until death, and it's his greatest masterpiece. Even still to this day, in a post kayfabe landscape, marks still get worked up about who's side to take. Everyone came out ahead in this situation. Vince becomes the biggest Heel, Shawn is Champ, Bret gets to go to WCW to make millions without actually "losing" and the belt stays with the company and Bischoff can't use it against them.

[@carljohnson5301]

I think people forget just how bad Bret’s ego was as well in 1997. I understand Bret came up in the business in a wrestling family. Wrestling is in his blood there is no doubt about that; however Bret’s pride was always his downfall. He cared too much about himself and his legacy, so much to his detriment. What I hate seeing is that Shawn supposedly never jobbed to Bret but that’s all he did from when he was coming up; if you even look at their W/L records against eachother Bret has well over 70 wins and Shawn had like 10 (and all of them weren’t clean). People also forget that when Shawn was supposed to drop the strap to Bret at WM 13, per Bret’s words he was going to “break Shawn’s leg, make him tap, win the championship, and flip off Shawn”. And trust me Shawn was no saint, but he admits that. I also totally get why Vince would pair the two up for Survivor Series. Everyone was in the wrong at the time but people like to forget Shawn’s perspective and Vince’s perspective which I think is a little idiotic when you have a convoluted situation such as the Montreal Screwjob where EVERYONE is at faulf

[@michaelsinger4638]

It was Vince’s fault it even got to this point to begin with.

[@sonytoor542]

Wasn't Bret's Title. It was given to him, it was time to give it back and he refused. Can't lose it in Canada id BS. With that logic, no American can lose it in America, which all of them have. Bret was a mark for himself. For all his complaining about Hogan, Bret became another version of Hogan.

[@olaakande5581]

I don’t really even look at this as anyone’s fault bc that screw job was a work lol Listen Vince couldn’t afford Bret & told him to make a deal with Eric. Later vince was able to afford Bret but Bret had already made the deal with Eric. Vince can’t say he couldn’t have had Bret drop the strap to Taker (for example). All 3 men made a deal & only Bret has never admitted to being in on it. The moment Shawn wins, the camera pans over to Bret. Why wouldn’t the camera pan over to the winner of the match?? Lol That entire thing is a work bro. Bret was gonna do his WCW deal & come back to WWE but then Owen died the next year which caused real bitterness & then the Goldberg kick happened. If u look at the screw job everyone came out of it looking amazing: Bret now the biggest babyface in wrestling (WCW just dropped the ball on all the heat Bret had), Shawn the champ, Vince saved money & at least at that time knew Bret would come back (& now he’s a monster heel)

[@rustinwhipple3878]

I think Shawn being an out of control drug addict might have hurt their relationship as well...the Kliq was creating dissension and misery all over the Fed at that time.

[@constablekennedy7705]

Agreed Bro

[@CR-ye6jq]

The matches we could have got between these two will always be one of the biggest "what ifs" from a pure wrestling perspective.

[@Captain_AAhab]

People always forget that the Survivor Series match was pretty damn good.

[@scotthitman1]

What about the what if's of Bret vs Angle, Bret vs eddie, Bret vs y2j, Bret vs rock

[@evolutiontail5697]

Actually they had their fair share of matches in the early 90's. Bret won most of them. This is why Shawn didn't want to put him over he's done it so many times.

[@tthomaselli2]

The only way I could see Bret "The Hitman" Hart show up to WCW in the way The Solomonster described around 16:35-16:44 was on 'WWE 2K17'. I put the WWF title on Bret "The Hitman" Hart, select the 'WCW Monday Nitro' arena, leave the entrances on & play as him in exhibition mode. It's simple...

[@colinhodder6110]

Bruce Prichard is the biggest Clown in all of Wrestling.

[@lancethefilmguy9392]

Forgot Johnny Ace

[@WaynesWorld12]

People keep disrespecting Bret Hart, shit is making me mad. Lying on his name. Get the FULL story before making this type of shit. Stop false narratives!

[@TribalChief3000]

It’s funny how Bruce makes fun of Johnny Ace on his podcast, basically calling him a Vince suck up, yet he is the exact same way. POT … KETTLE

[@lancethefilmguy9392]

Not really. But points for trying though lol

[@JFrancoFarmsLLC]

Spot on. Ty for doing this video. Told you you'd find it interesting to say the least.

[@jamesmorant1406]

They did the same thing on wwe confidential in 2002 try to make it all Bret fault

[@DolFunDolhpinVtuber]

They booked Bret horribly in WCW. At least he made a lot of money from them, $2.5 million per year is an enormous amount.

[@watersandblue6001]

didn't randy savage also made much money in wcw?

[@jeffreywilliams734]

Bret's first match in WCW should've been for the world title, like Hogan's first WCW match. His first match should've been at Superbrawl 1998 against Sting. Sting would beat Hogan's at Starrcade, Sting vs Bret at Superbrawl for the world title. WCW really had no clue what to do with Bret

[@vincentbethea2288]

@@jeffreywilliams734 Hogan had creative control and vetoed any matches between himself and Bret. I remember Hart mentioning that during an interview

[@ajdynamo6866]

I imagine if Bret wasn't injured he would have faced Kurt Angle at WrestleMania 18, HBK at 19 and finally Vince at 20.

[@michaelsinger4638]

Bret could have also maybe faced Edge, Eddie Guerrero, young Brock Lesnar and John Cena, etc.

[@timtate4105]

I didn't know even about this documentary til recently

[@RobertoTheOriginalManFromTheA]

WWE loves revisionist history...HBK words in the 90s..was full of shxx!..Selfish As Hell!..And Pritchard lies as much every time he's in front of a camera...Cornette already said Bret had creative control of his contract..in the last 30 days.

[@travismcdonald6576]

WWE always protects Michaels. It’s strange. Vince loves to bash Hogan, Savage, even Austin at one point, but Michaels, who was a bust as champion, always gets praised.

[@JohnWilliams-wl9px]

@@travismcdonald6576 It’s why some people are convinced the reason HBK was so well protected by Vince was because they were sleeping together lol

[@magsxx9735]

@@travismcdonald6576 Vince always does that whenever he has a falling out with someone. Warrior, Hogan, Bret, you name it. Then he takes it back and praises them again. Shawn and Vince have always been close and Shawn has never left the company so he will always get a high praise.

[@vincegonzalez6804]

@@JohnWilliams-wl9px it’s because he’s the one who never left to the other promotion. And for as bad as the ratings were getting while Shawn was champ, I think WWF would’ve gone out of business by ‘97 had Shawn not been there to keep the sinking ship from getting completely sunk

[@lancethefilmguy9392]

@@JohnWilliams-wl9px Don't believe that Conspiracy Theory

[@dexenationgracey1979]

The funny thing about this situation is that they ended up going with Stone Cold, so they were essentially haggling over the number two position (who was probably Undertaker anyway.) I don't think Bret would've minded being second banana to Austin but Shawn apparently threw such a bitch fit Taker was ready to slap some sense into him.

[@craigoneill2216]

HBK always comes across as the worst type of person

[@rayvenkman2087]

He’d have been found dead face down on the ground and at the side of the road long ago if had he pulled even a fraction of the stuff he did in mid-90’s WWF for other promotions that didn’t have his homies looking out for him or in any entertainment industries. Heck if the WWF had lost the war to WCW, HBK probably would have ended up like Jeff Jarrett in being an outcast to the sole remaining major fed til AEW’s creation. Too many people having beef with him to get work in promotions they’re in lest they needed a big name. Great showstopper. Great enemy-maker.

[@NoomEnihsDrop]

Something else Jason forgot to mention... If Bret never got hurt... We could've gotten Bret Hart vs Kurt Angle... Think on that for a second.

[@scotthitman1]

Bret vs eddie, Bret vs y2j, Bret vs the rock, Bret vs austin again, Bret vs rvd

[@NoomEnihsDrop]

@@scotthitman1 oh my god we never even got Bret vs Rock..... * sigh * fuck.

[@scotthitman1]

@@NoomEnihsDrop hold on now... i know that the rock had matches early in his career with bret as rocky maivia, but i dont recal ever having a match with bret as the rock. rocky maivia ws still green at the time. by the time he was the rock, dwayne johnson was 10 times better on the mic and in ring.

[@Redhotshawntexas]

@@NoomEnihsDropwe did technically, but it was in early 1997 in a throwaway Raw match that ended in a DQ, if I recall correctly.

[@NoomEnihsDrop]

@@Redhotshawntexas that wasn't Kurt, it was a guy with his theme music named The Patriot who got a distraction pin win over Bret since HBK was at ringside.

[@bdr113080]

Now you know how WCW/NWA fans feel about the rise and fall of WCW. That was about 70% true. The Goldbergs episode of A&E kind of left out a lot of things too. Pretty much anything about southern wrestling when it comes to documentaries that WWE is bullshit. I remember their documentary about the big gold belt, the world title. At that time Sting had not signed with the WWE yet and came on to face triple H at wrestlemania so they made it sound like Sting was the worst champion ever and he was just some guy they put the championship on as a placeholder. The only people that were good champions in their book were guys that came from WCW and had a successful WWE run or guys like hulk hogan and Randy savage who came from WWE but all the WCW originals, will they just sucked according to WWE documentaries.

[@comoamosto5224]

Honest to God WWE needs to stop doing this revisionist history, if this rivalry was too controversial for them to cover for an episode then pick a different feud without as much negative publicity behind it to cover if they’re so worried about bad publicity case closed. I’m pretty sure anybody that had or still has the WWE Network watched this feud covered if they didn’t happen to watch it when it went down live at the time back in the day. Also it was covered on Dark Side Of The Ring where the actual facts were covered & not revised. WWE is the only professional sport/sports company that will rewrite its own history just to try & save face from public criticism even though they create more for themselves just by doing that. Honest to God if you’re unsure if WWE is telling truth about something historical, just ask Solomonster & he’ll tell you the actual facts of what really went down since he’s been covering the sport for almost 2 full decades now via podcasts & KZbin.

[@T-NUGGZ]

Great point- keep up the good work, Solomonster, you’re the shit. 👍🏾

[@lancethefilmguy9392]

Well I don't mean to burst your bubble but Vice is known for being just as bias as A&E. They tend to hide it better. And I wouldn't get mad at WWE for doing Revisionist History because EVERY company does this to some extent. Look no further than the Walt Disney company.

[@jmi84]

Bret was screwed. Period. I’m glad we got guys today like Solomon telling the truth. The wwe will never admit they were wrong in this Montreal topic. And I don’t believe Vince couldn’t afford to pay Bret’s contract. Just 4 months later he paid Tyson 3 million for one night at wrestlemania. Bret would have never showed up at wcw with the championship belt. Now way. I don’t care what nobody says.

[@runthebellwrestling]

The only thing I got out of this is that I got cheated out of Bret winning clean at Wrestlemania lol

[@Redhotshawntexas]

6:50 not to mention that 3 of his best friends negotiated and left to work for the “enemy”

[@Real_Palessi]

I don’t get it why would Shawn have a problem with Brett wanting to do a deal with WCW but he’s ok with Hall and Nash working there? 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@OneSideofFries]

Loved watching season one last year. Can’t watch any material for this year cause I no longer have the A&E channel due to downgrading a subscription 😔.

[@MrAce-lm8es]

Of course, I'm not watching this A&E Biography at all.

[@mrowley7300]

Can't take Bruce seriously, dude is such a company man even when he wasn't employed by them he still sucked up to vince

[@lancethefilmguy9392]

You good?

[@Am0ment0fB]

Getting Stone Cold vs Mr. McMahon was the best possible outcome. Ha.

[@jonathanmiranda4547]

Correction it was FACTUALLY The Rock vs Stone Cold & Austin vs McMahon lmao!

[@BzaafiedTheFerocious]

I feel like Triple H and The Rock is a feud that gets underlooked. Considering how hot Austin and Rock was I understand why but Triple H and Rock were also hot, especially their IC feud with their factions warring.

[@vincegonzalez6804]

And the difference is also that Austin and Rock were friends the whole time. Ironically, both of them are also friends with Bret. Triple H and Rock actually did have animosity between them two. Not so much to the levels of Bret and Shawn but they were also not friends. There was competition between them to be the guy since they were getting pushed at around the same time but H and Shawn tried to persuade Vince to not push Rock. So there’s that

[@constablekennedy7705]

Very True Bro

[@constablekennedy7705]

@@vincegonzalez6804 💯

[@FlyBoyEnterprises]

That's typical MO for WWE when it comes to rewriting history. No matter how many times they change their own history of moments, the fans know the truth especially those who grew up during that Era.

[@lancethefilmguy9392]

Yep. And at this point we shouldn't expect anything different from WWE

[@kiaba360-4]

I wasn't aware of HBK's 750k contract, and his demand that nobody (other than Taker) was to be paid higher than him. Of course money had to play a role in souring their relationship.

[@cggg5089]

It was the perfect storm. Bret was bothered by Shawn saying before WM12 that he hoped to work with his Kliq buddies as champion. Shawn was offended when Bret would say disparaging things in promos about Shawn being a bad role model. And then Shawn felt that Bret purposely cut a long promo so that Raw would go off the air before Shawn super kicked him. This led to the “Sunny Days” comment and things escalated from there.

[@robertwarf3316]

I'm very shocked wwe would do this. Can't believe it.

[@constablekennedy7705]

Your Sarcasm is not unnoticed Bro ….. 👀

[@ckidd8681]

If bret stayed he would have been buried as well as wcw. Shawn was now the top guy with austin and dx on the rise. I dont think bret would have stayed in the main event picture. After those two losses they would have broken up the hart foundation and he would have been wrestling for ic belt

[@isabelrodriguezsjolund9701]

Both Rock and Austin liked Bret way more than they liked Shawn, and Shawn had his fucked up back, if Bret had stayed I think Shawn would have been the one heading down the card

[@mrterp04]

Too bad we can’t get a doc on the craziest rivalry in all of pro wrestling- Russo vs. Cornette

[@Captain_AAhab]

Is this Charlie from Starkville?

[@constablekennedy7705]

I would pay to see that Bro ……..

[@constablekennedy7705]

@@Captain_AAhab If it’s not Charlie then it could be sh*tstain himself … 👀

[@kevinlee9929]

Its a 1 sided rivalry. Russo doesn't hate Cornette over wrestling shows.

[@mrterp04]

@@kevinlee9929 agreed. Would be funny for Jim to meet Russo face to face, have nothing happen, then try to explain it away on his podcast.

[@mrowley7300]

Shawn wasn't back wrestling in WWE till 2002 so I doubt he and Bret wouldn't happen at mania x8

[@V1LL1N]

Best Coulda Shoulda Woulda: Shawn vs Bret @ WM18 in Toronto huh? Damn, good "what if". Pure pro

[@michaelrodriguez7380]

Wow I never knew this! Thx Solomonster!

[@travismcdonald6576]

Kenny Bolin must be A&E’s fact checker.

[@jerranspearman3369]

good video

[@TRivera13]

Most of what happened is documented on video!!!

[@egobrain2x]

This story needs to be left alone. It is always told over and over and over. Wwe loves the rewind button especially with Raw and Smackdown.

[@maxgriffin3950]

I’ve always wished Bret would have stayed I mean shit we could have got the bret and Austin rematch at wm 14 and the matches with the rock and Kurt angle

[@AlejandroRamirez-rx1py]

Always love WWE trying to rewrite history. Whether it was their idea or A&E doesn’t matter. People know the actual truth of their relationship and the fallout. If they didn’t want to cover all the dirt then don’t do a special called “Rivals” of Shawn/Bret.

[@GoRun1982]

Go look up the Aubrey Edwards if you wanna see some real shady dealings

[@AlejandroRamirez-rx1py]

@@GoRun1982 Oh I have heard about this. It’s been a minute but I will. Thanks.

[@JenMistress]

I'll give Shawn credit in knowing Taker was the bigger name. I'm sure even back then, Taker probably was the locker room leader, and much like Andre before, Taker was a special attraction, in that you could put him in the Marquee, even if no title in his match, and he'll sell tickets. As far as A&E's retelling of Montreal, I'm just picturing Obi Wan using his "from a certain point of view" line. 😉😂🤣

[@cggg5089]

Bret was a bigger name as well. This was the first time they were establishing Shawn as a headliner who would carry the company. Bret has already done that and, even though business went down from when Hogan was on top, Bret did draw well overseas, had a track record of delivering good main event matches, and had the experience of representing the company as champ (e.g., in media, leading the locker room, making appearances, staying clean, helping others get over, etc.). Shawn was a step in the dark, so it is surprising that he would say that they can pay Taker more but not Bret. From what I understand, Shawn was not up to the challenge of being the champion in 96; he was reportedly difficult to work with and used lots of drugs. He caved under the pressure

[@bieberninja1]

i don't know about the rest of your guys, but i enjoy listening to stories about montreal, even if they are outright blatant corporate lies, it's fascinating how bret and shawn have obviously gotten over the entire situation and have moved on but wwe and for some reason a & e want to continue to keep the propaganda machine going like they are at war with the hitman fans of the 90's, but i have news for you wwe, those people stopped spending money on your product decades ago

[@HoldenMuhKnutz]

Funny how they do a revisionist storytelling when the same company that aired “Wrestling with Shadows”.😂

[@bigmoe28]

I still believe all sides were at fault and share equal blame for the events that led to that moment, but the question that's always been on my mind: Why didn't Vince think to take the belt off Bret before he freed him up to talk to Bischoff?

[@L1am21]

Probly thought Bischoff wouldn't give him the same good offer again.

[@kevinlee9929]

How did Bret have anything to do with what happened at SS 97 .... ?

[@bigmoe28]

@@L1am21 that may have been on his mind, but at that point money was tight a Bret was too expensive, Vince wanted him to go away. At least for a while. If anything he probably figured Bret would be back in a couple years because "WCW wouldn't know what to do with him."

[@bigmoe28]

@@MotoGearSolid and Bret used that creative control to be as difficult as possible, thus escalating the situation

[@bigmoe28]

@@kevinlee9929 as according to Jim Cornette: Bret: I dont want to lose to Shawn. Jim: Well what if we changed the opponent? Bret: You cant do that, you already advertised the match. Jim: Well then we'll replace him with someone of equal or higher stature, like say Undertaker. Bret: I dont want to lose in Canada. Jim: ok how about you drop it on Saturday in Detroit? Bret: Can't do that, you already advertised me as the champ for the match. Jim: Well f**k what do you want to do then? Bret: Win the match and surrender the belt the next night. Jim: So you dont want to give anyone the rub, then devalue the title by saying it means less to you than a $2 million deal for the rival company? You realize you actually have me siding with Shawn? And he's the one I don't like.

[@worriorjack]

TAMINA, dude? Yknow? The topic is in Maine , tamina is in Southern California.

[@michaelgraham5181]

It's as simple as this and I don't care if anyone doesn't agree with me Vince shit all over bret for no reason what so ever Vince didn't want bret anymore that's fine but Bret had 30 days control in his contract and Bret would have lost to shawn but shawn said he would never lose to him so why would Bret put hbk over in his own country and lower his stock

[@robertmac8493]

Damn this how they got down back then jeez😬😬😬

[@codyjohnson4174]

Yep, wwe are liars. Just awful people. It blows my mind how many people "stand up for wwe". It has to be kids that say this, it's the only thing that makes sense

[@jakster16]

And so it begins...

[@ROCKSTEADY011]

At this point WWE should make a live action movie called Screwed in Montreal. 🤣🤣🤣

[@wrestlingtapes2036]

Bret > Shawn

[@Lonewolf_665]

Nope

[@JLRules]

When I hear about Bret's reaction to Shawn not "returning the favour" in 1997, I just think... how many jobs did Shawn do for Bret earlier in the decade? You could argue it _was_ Bret's turn to put him over more than once or twice. Did he think _WrestleMania XII_ made up for all the times Shawn lost to him beforehand? Did he think only the IC ladder match and _Survivor Series 1992_ counted? Or am I wrong, and _did_ they only have those two matches prior to WM XII, with no houseshow bouts? Surely not. Frankly, perhaps Bret had his own "That don't work for me, brother" moment in '97.

[@kevinlee9929]

Bret putting over Shawn at WM 12 trumps that Survivor Series 92 and thosr house show matches by a mile. The next year when the roles were to be reversed. Shawn magically "Loses his smile". Only to be on commentary during the main event. Then return to the ring a few months later. Shawn was a complete rick back then. And everyone will say that. Including him.

[@DLRX]

@@kevinlee9929 Agreed, Shawn was put over HUGE at WM12 whereas Bret's first title win wasn't even televised (put on VHS months later). And who cares if Bret went over Shawn more times than the other? Macho Man Randy Savage never even got a pinfall victory over Hulk Hogan but he still did business and his stock never dropped. Shawn should've had the same attitude, if he did him and Bret could've made even more money working with each other for years.

[@AndrewNewZealand]

Starting with Survivor Series '92, Bret was the logical winner of that match, Bret had just won the big belt, Shawn had just cleanly won the IC belt from Bulldog who had beaten Bret for it, which legitimized him as a top contender, but nobody would've seriously thought going in that Shawn would win the big belt just a few weeks after his first IC or that Bret would lose the big belt so soon. The point is though, in the heat of the moment Shawn DID look like he might win, the match went about 25 minutes and near the end Shawn hit the superkick then his "teardrop" side suplex. If Bret had lost the belt on his first big defence, especially to a guy who'd only just proved himself a contender, he'd have looked like a dud champion, a booking mistake and Shawn, while a good heel, he gave a good promo before the match, was not yet the kind of heel that would draw big money from people wanting to see him get his arse kicked and lose his belt. The point is, as someone pointed out, the stakes at SSeries '92 were nowhere near what they were at WM 12 even if it was the same belt on the line.

[@cctitansfan]

If I never hear about the screwjob again,it would not be a day too soon.But we still got the 25th Anniversary November 9 😡

[@GrassValleyGreg]

The revisionist history is just unnecessary. The story is so compelling, albeit a bit stale at this point. At the time, though- it was an amazing time to be a wrestling fan.

[@constablekennedy7705]

Imagine the revisionist spin on the Chris Benoit stuff 20 years From now … 💀

[@lancethefilmguy9392]

@@constablekennedy7705 Unfortunately Smarks are already doing that

[@umerfayyazsod]

Its stupid of wwe to lie about monetral and get away with this. Its most discussed and write about event in wrestling history. Bret Hart was a great wrestler and he was willing to do business it was Shawn who was full of shit using his influence with vince to get his way. I totally agree Bret Hart could have more matches with Shawn which have been great. Even if Bret was healthy and could come to WWE in 2001-2 and have that run where he could have great fueds with Vince angle, jericho, rock, triple h, and even shawn. Its such a loss for fans.

[@marioozzie]

'97 Bret Hart is where he became amazing in all ways, wrestling, promos...Anti-american Bret with his family couldn't be beat. DX with Michaels and HHH unfortunately were where the US was going in the late 90s (petty trolling) The biggest winner from Bret Hart going to WCW was Steve Austin, who probably wouldn't have won the world championship as soon as he did had Bret remained. It would be interesting to see Solomonster try to imagine what WWF would have been like had the Hart Foundation stuck around (I imagine Michaels and HHH would have rejoined the KLIQ in Atlanta...)

[@ajsgaming83]

Actually even b4 Shawn was told he was gunna win the title they know it was going to Stone Cold at Wrestlemaina.

[@mfdixon1985]

I've never thought anyone involved in Montreal comes out looking all that sympathetic, at least as it relates specifically to that incident. Shawn was a complete jerk. Bret took himself way too seriously. They were like oil and water. But while gave the rivalry a significantly shorter shelf life than other great rivalries, it's also what made it so great.

[@josephnicolino8529]

Please I'm begging you, no more documentaries about the Montreal screw job.

[@constablekennedy7705]

Couldn’t Agree More

[@watersandblue6001]

Bret jumping to wcw was such a mistake of his. he was just being hogans lacky there and if you have someone like Bret after the screwjob out of all the things they could have done for his wcw debut he is just a ref?? that was bs. Honestly HBK vs Bret at wm 18 would have never happened anway you really think Bret was willing to do business with Vince around that time.

[@kevinlee9929]

He was forced to WCW

[@ericjackson7632]

What other option was there? Go to ECW? He didn't want to. I blame Vince ultimately the most for this, Shawn to a lesser extent, and even less Bret.

[@Neethan3247]

I'll always be pro Bret in this argument. Yes, he wasn't perfect but god damn when you place him next to HBK, the dude was the closest to a Saint in the locker room. That and the whole thing would have ended will if Shawn had properly reciprocated that email that Bret had sent him. Thank you Solomonster for bringing a lot of this to light.

[@rayvenkman2087]

For all the marks that say Bret was a whiny baby about the whole situation even years later, they should also remember how many livelihoods HBK alongside the Kliq had destroyed backstage with some for laughs, the fact he did some things if done today would have made him a prime Speaking Out target, was an absolute weasel when it came to tattling on others to Vince and he didn’t lose a family member on a PPV because of an amateur. No matter how much Bret did wrong on his end, HBK’s wrong will always stacked up more in comparison and the only reason he’s not another Bruiser Brady today is because he’s got the victor of the Monday Night Wars in his corner. Imagine he pulled his antics in ECW... HBK really is like a real life Persona 5 villain with all the backstage stories about him.

[@devinwalker7740]

Don't blame them this story's been told so much over 25 years it needs a twist, or else who would watch it. Beating a dead horse is an understatement

[@isabelrodriguezsjolund9701]

This isn't a twist, this is the same shit they've been trying to peddle for 20+ years

[@paulsammuel1231]

5:45 this why the undertaker the GOAT😂😂

[@markk7731]

Ah, no recollection of that. Good Christians tend to omit previous wrong doings, much easier than owning up to it.

[@nickhughes8179]

I find it hilarious that Cornette kept the clump on hair for a visual aid of Bret whooping HBK

[@isabelrodriguezsjolund9701]

I find it hilarious that he brags about being so outspoken all the time but was apparently too much of a coward to admit he was involved in the Montreal Screwjob for 20+ years

[@LethalBubbles]

I will never support a company who partakes in historical revisionism.

[@menzokruizinga]

what did you expect from wwe and A&E wwe lie wcw down fall

[@DaPhoenix777]

DX vs Hart foundation

[@scotthitman1]

If Bret never left and went to wcw and get kicked in the head by goldberg....concussion, you know, we could have had Bret vs Angle, Bret vs eddie guerrero, Bret vs y2j, Bret vs the rock.

[@CornPopodopolis]

I like how Bret blames Goldberg for ending his career he didn't even kick him that hard and if he was fucked up he should have let the ref know but he didn't do he needs to accept some responsibility on that one

[@jamesmorant1406]

Responsibility Goldberg kicked him right in the face, and it was a hard kick

[@darrelleanderson9632]

Hbk was an great performer but his relationship with Vince and HHH over the year and the way Bret Hart left for WCW, they really buried Hart over the years and really Exaggerated HBK stardom which is ridiculous, Hart was and is the superior wrestler between the two. WWE will put their propaganda out their with making it seem HBK was so great because it undermines Hart.

[@Director2024]

But Hart could never be the SHOWSTOPPER! Shawn could do what Bret could do, but Bret couldn’t do what Shawn could do!

[@GoRun1982]

You gonna talk about the Aubrey Edwards situation? No other channels want to talk about it. Which is very suspicious

[@jetjaguar4285]

Wait, what happened???

[@GoRun1982]

@@jetjaguar4285 I'll say when I can post again

[@rikcartman3874]

do aromatic marks love him?

[@jetjaguar4285]

@@rikcartman3874 HA!!!

[@BSultimate]

WWE documentaries are pointless if you want the truth

[@skytyme7721]

Neither Brett, Hart nor Sean Michaels were the best Ric Flair was the best

[@dazzle1933]

What do you expect. Triple H who meddled and inflamed the situation runs the WWE

[@isabelrodriguezsjolund9701]

This shit makes me so fucking angry

[@Saintproxy]

I love wwe propaganda

[@Champ75A]

.....just can't sympathize with Bret at all. I'm not saying what Vince did was right or not, but it wasn't anyone else's decision to make in the first place. Bret is/was the classic example of the type of person who says he's doing what he's doing for you and others but is really about himself above anything else. Sorry brother, he's not much different from Hogan after all. Who has "creative control" and chooses to exercise it when they do and why? Yes, Vince McMahon is a narcissistic, egomaniacal, control freak, and ass-hole. Fuck Vince but that doesn't mean Bret deserves any sympathy either. I don't care what Shawn said, and I would say the same to him and any other wrestler who thinks they're above what's best for the company. It's not up to either of you to decide who wins or loses unless you're gonna settle it in a real fight on your own time and own dollar. If Bret could see past his own ego to realize that life has to go on after he leaves and if that means losing to someone he doesn't want to lose to, so be it. Somebody had to lose to him. Sure, there were probably many so many things Vince could have done to avoid this situation but at the end of the day, whether any of us likes it or not, it was HIS business, which means it was HIS decision to make PERIOD as he's the one writing the checks. The rest of us are just talking.

[@isabelrodriguezsjolund9701]

Nah Bret had every reason to tell Vince and Shawn to fuck off and stop mistreating him, Bret helped way more better people in the industry like Austin and Rock in more meaningful ways, Vince wasn't right just because he's the owner.