Could you just have done: ln(x) + 2 ln(x) = 12 ln(2) 3 ln(x) = 12 ln(2) ln(x) = 4 ln(2) = ln(2^4) = ln(16) x = 16
@vitakyo9825 жыл бұрын
Too simple is not chinese ...
@bitterberry_5 жыл бұрын
Even don't need ln log2 x + log4 x = 3log4 x = 6 log4 x = 2 x = 16
@harshvirgrewal24035 жыл бұрын
That’s what I was thinking, just add the ln(x)’s and then divide both sides and it’s simple from there
@BigDBrian5 жыл бұрын
@@bitterberry_ This particular example works out nicely like that due to the bases being 2 and 4. But I think the point is to show a more general method
@rosebuster5 жыл бұрын
@@BigDBrian You should always use the simplest approach for the task at hand!
@perlnut5 жыл бұрын
Why not recognize 4 is 2^2 and change log4(x) to log2(x)/log2(4) and continue from there? Much simpler.
@rosebuster5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I also think it makes more sense to be a little bit more picky choosing the log base when you can choose any base you want. Better think what is the simplest one to use instead of sticking to natural logarithm just because it's the one you're most used to. I always say it's better to think a little instead of following formulas mechanically. And personally I favour base 2 logarithms anyway, because they're the ones you'll find most commonly in computer science. :)
@morksan99732 жыл бұрын
Mathmaticians never seek for easy way
@tbg-brawlstars2 жыл бұрын
Or just use that property when power of base goes in denominator 🙂
@nemanjalazarevic92492 жыл бұрын
Theres also the short cut formula of: Log x^n(y)=Logx(y)/n
@tbg-brawlstars2 жыл бұрын
@@nemanjalazarevic9249 yes, it is a basic log property
@donati8805 жыл бұрын
Why not : 1/2log2X+log2X=6 3log2X=12 log2X=4 X=2^4 X=16
@NasirKhan-lq5jl5 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I did in my mind when I saw the thumbnail.
@ivansavchuk79565 жыл бұрын
+)
@NTENewTechnologicalEducation5 жыл бұрын
donati880, that is also correct.
@Viesto19805 жыл бұрын
Exactly,
@aman-kr5 жыл бұрын
Yes this is very easy and simple method.
@animalfarm74675 жыл бұрын
Just a thought - If you use a base change to "2" instead of "e", you rapidly get to (log2(x))/(log2(4)) + log2(x)=6; 3/2*log2(x)=6 or log2(x)=4, hence x=2^4
@johngreen35433 жыл бұрын
You have the "best" way to do it
@xtree28173 жыл бұрын
Love ya
@cipherbenchmarks2 жыл бұрын
Where u get 3/2
@animalfarm74672 жыл бұрын
@@cipherbenchmarks : Factor out the log2(x)) from (log2(x))/(log2(4)) + log2(x) (log2(x))(1/(log2(4)) + 1) and as log2(4)=2, (log2(x))(1/2 + 1)=(3/2)log2(x) Hope that helps.
@manka54642 жыл бұрын
@@animalfarm7467 I appreciate you responded after three years and yes, it helped
@kujmous5 жыл бұрын
I like this video especially because I can see the answer beforehand. I did it differently, but it uses the same reasoning. LOG4(x) + LOG2(x) = 6 LOG4(x) + 2(LOG4(x)) = 6 3LOG4(x) = 6 LOG4(x) = 2 x = 4² = 16
@AndreasChristianto5 жыл бұрын
i prefer: ln x + 2 ln x = 12 ln 2 3 ln x = 12 ln 2 ln x = 4 ln 2 ln (x) = ln (2^4) x = 2^4 x = 16
@hollow60795 жыл бұрын
same here, just think it's unnecessary to bring the 2 into ln x
@flamingpaper77515 жыл бұрын
You can do that last step a little easier. When you have ln(x) + 2ln(x) = 12ln(2) You can simply add the ln(x) on the left since ln(x) acts like a variable and get 3ln(x) = 12ln(2) Then divide both sides by 3 to get ln(x) = 4ln(2) Then put the 4 into the ln(2) to get ln(x) = ln(2^4) Then x = 2^4, which is obviously 16
@yashjakhmola5 жыл бұрын
Not bragging, but this was too easy. I literally solved it in my head just looking at the thumbnail. Your videos are awesome tho.
@SHASHANKRUSTAGII5 жыл бұрын
Same
@ridditdit26865 жыл бұрын
It's still really cool math so I don't mind
@shacharh54705 жыл бұрын
Same
@sangeetanarendrasingh54165 жыл бұрын
Yeah, same
@SartajKhan-jg3nz5 жыл бұрын
Easy for us in higher grades. Consider the people who are not familiar to the concepts of logarithms🙃
@lostwizard5 жыл бұрын
As others have noted, observing that the bases are both powers of 2 suggests that the best base to change to would be 2. That then means the denominators in the change of base become nice integers and the result then trivially simplifies to log2(x) = 4. Of course, your way works more generically and shows off more log properties.
@orisphera3 жыл бұрын
I think base 4 would be even better here
@HeyKevinYT5 жыл бұрын
ln x and 2 ln x are like terms
@blackpenredpen5 жыл бұрын
Kevin vs. Gamingz yup! It was 10:30pm when I recorded this..
@suniltshegaonkar78094 жыл бұрын
Also that we can convert Log X_4 = 1/2 of Log X_2. So both terms are at Base 2, taking common the Log portion). 3/2* LogX_2 = 6 >>> X^3/2 = 2^6 >>> X= 16.
@fr0si8343 жыл бұрын
I did the same thing , is it a right way to solve logarithmic equations that can be converting to be the same bases ??
@not_vinkami5 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's time for us to make it *COMPLEX*
@denismilic18785 жыл бұрын
I rarely can solve math problems on this channel in my head, or even solve without pain but this problem is super simple or I got some wierd inspiration. Answer just poped in my head Sheldon style. log4(x)+log2(x)=6 log2(sqrt(x))+log2(x)=2 +4 log2(sqrt(x)) = 2 and log2(x)=4 x= 2^4 = 16
@chyawanprash4 жыл бұрын
I did it like this. Let y=log4 (x) Let z=log2 (x) y+z=6 4^y=x 2^2y=x 2^z=x 2^2y=2^z 2y=z y+2y=6 3y=6 y=2 log4 x = 2 x=4² x=16
@pdisp3 жыл бұрын
Nice.
@thomasg68305 жыл бұрын
ln(x) + 2×ln(x) = 3×ln(x)
@NeedBetterLoginName2 жыл бұрын
Around 3:30, you could just do ln(x) + 2ln(x) = 3 ln(x) and go from there, quicker and simplier
@tbg-brawlstars2 жыл бұрын
BlackPenRedPen : Takes 6 mins to solve the world's easiest log question Me : Solves it in literally 10 seconds in head
@blackpenredpen2 жыл бұрын
LITERALLY?
@tbg-brawlstars2 жыл бұрын
@@blackpenredpen According to google Literally definition : used for emphasizing something
@mulezichanje10 ай бұрын
He's tutoring, you're not.
@solcraftdev3 жыл бұрын
At 3:30 just simplify to 3ln(x)=12ln(2) and divide both sides by 3 to get ln(x)=4ln(2), simplify to get ln(x)=ln(16), cancel the 'ln's and you get x=16
@GirishManjunathMusic2 жыл бұрын
Given: lq(x) + lb(x) = 6 Knowing lq(x) = ½lb(x); as lb(4) = 2: ½lb(x) + lb(x) = 6 Adding fractions: (3/2)·lb(x) = 6 Multiplying both sides by ⅔: lb(x) = 4 Exponentiating both sides using 2 as the base: x = 2⁴ x = 16. Here, lq(x) = log(x) with base 4, lb(x) = log(x) with base 2.
@kidtherookie60195 жыл бұрын
I found another way! Note: 2*log_4(x)=log_2(x) log_2(x)+2*log_2(x)=12 log_2(x^3)=12 x=2^(12/3)=16
@ib9rt5 жыл бұрын
At 3:18 I was so stunned about what you did next that I had to check the calendar to make sure it wan't April 1st...
@Shreyas_Jaiswal3 жыл бұрын
Haha, it could be written just 3ln(x).
@hailmary72835 жыл бұрын
Instead of doing ln(x)/ ln(4), why not just do log2(x)/log2(4)? Then you get log2(x)/2 + log2(x) = 6. Then we have (3/2)log2(x) = 6 log2(x) = 4 x = 16 This just seems a lot easier. Love the videos.
@boldandbrash24994 жыл бұрын
I have just applied 2 to base of logarithm and saw that (log2^x/2) + (log2^x/1) = 6 And then i have multipled second term by 2 then saw that (log2^x/2) + (2log2^x/2) = 6 this turned into 3log2^x/2 = 6 and did the equation which turned into log2^x = 4 and simply found the x equals to 16. I have watched so much of your videos. And w/o you i couldn't be able to find out the answer. All thanks to you
@adrianfrauca81184 жыл бұрын
3:25 alternatively, lnx + 2lnx = 12ln2 => 3lnx = 12ln2 => lnx = 4ln2 => x = e^(ln2*4) => x = 2^4 => x = 16
@londonalicante Жыл бұрын
Everybody else saying there's a simpler way. My issue was that there was an unnecessary JAZZ PIANO playing.
@itscalledatilda4 ай бұрын
*classical piano
@londonalicante4 ай бұрын
@@itscalledatilda There is indeed classical piano in the first 23 seconds. I think I skipped that last time. I was talking about the piano from 4:00 onwards, which I assumed he added deliberately. Looks like he was just next to a music room. Interesting that this problem uses 2^12, given the importance of 2^(1/12) in music (it's the frequency ratio of 2 notes a semitone apart.)
@RobbeDeneef-p4z9 күн бұрын
I love this video, you explain it much better than my teacher!
@abhirampaku60702 жыл бұрын
Easier method, log_4x + log_2〖x 〗=6 log_(bxb…..ntimes)〖a 〗=1/n( log_ba ) 〖1/2 log〗_2x + log_2x =6 3/2 log_2x =6 Dividing and multiplying both sides with 3 and 2 respectively log_2〖x 〗= 4 log_ba=x then a=b^x Therefore, x=2^4 =16
@MostafaAhmed-kn4yy5 жыл бұрын
another solution : Suppose that log4(x) = y If 4 ^ y = x - - or 2 ^ 2y = x We take log2 (x) in the last relationship If 2y = log2 (x) then we substitute the original equation to find y y = 2 After compensation, we find the value x x = 16
@millicentatieno88544 ай бұрын
surely i had a problem in solving that,thanks dude
@masterclash99593 жыл бұрын
A “hidden” rule I found with logs is that if you have log_b(a), it will be equal to log_(b^2)(a^2) or alternatively 2log_(b^2)(a). This is because if you use your change in base formula and exponentiate the arguments to the same number, then you can use the power rule to take the exponents out of the argument and cancel, of which would leave you with another fraction to apply the change in base formula. Example: log_9(4) ln(4) --- ln(9) ln(2^2) --- ln(3^2) 2ln(2) --- 2ln(3) Simplify to ln(2) --- ln(3) And log_3(2) Hence, log_9(4) = log_3(2)
@mjones2075 жыл бұрын
I think this is easier to use the change of base formula on just the first addend only using log(base 2). This gives log(base 2)x / 2 + log(base 2)x = 6 → (3/2) log(base 2)x = 6 → log(2)x = 4 → x = 2⁴ = 16.
@mathsplus012 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed how you showed how easy to change the base. Great!
@suhleslie90102 ай бұрын
Please which to ask about this expression in log if it right; Log_(log_a(b)) + log_(log_c(b)) = log c Log[log_a(b)][log_c(b)] = log c And taking natural log on both sides; Is it mathematically correct in logs ?
@elektriksvarsiki5 жыл бұрын
Log2(x)=2log4(x) so, 3log4(x)=6 Log4(x)=2 By definition,x=16
@ffggddss5 жыл бұрын
log₄x + log₂x = 6 Well, because 4 = 2², we can write log₂x = 2·log₄x And then we have log₄x + log₂x = 3·log₄x = 6 log₄x = 2 x = 4² = 16 Note that the exponent, 2, in 4 = 2² is the log base 2 of 4: log₂4 = 2. So in more general cases, when there are logs of more than one base, they can all be converted to a common base, using logᵤx = logᵤv · logᵥx You can choose any base you want as the common base - whatever works best. Now to watch Mr. Pen, to see how he does this . . . Ooh, yes that's the right answer, but sorry to have to say I don't think this is the best way to get there. Once you have: lnx + 2·lnx = 12·ln2 just combine the LHS to get: 3·lnx = 12·ln2 lnx = 4·ln2 x = 2⁴ = 16 Kudos for giving the change-of-base formula - that's a powerful tool in log problems! Fred
@jinishtrivedi24295 жыл бұрын
Sir you could directly write.. Log[4]x=(1/2)log[2] HERE I USED SQUARE BRACKETS [. ] TO DENOTE THE BASE OF THAT LOG This could become more easy
@tobiaschapinda67713 жыл бұрын
Logarithmically Transform the function y=(〖(3x^2+2)〗^2 √(6x+2))/(x^3+1)
@wes9627 Жыл бұрын
To avoid confusion I would just solve log(x)(1/log4 + 1/log2) = 6 for log(x) and then set x = 10^log(x) = 16, where log is to base 10.
@oldravianspublicschool74373 жыл бұрын
Good example for understanding the logarithms' law of change of base
@yasharora37975 жыл бұрын
You can use the property where log x to the base b^n is equal to 1/n times log x to the base b.
@tombombadil13514 жыл бұрын
name of that property?
@Tomaplen5 жыл бұрын
What is log_i(i!¡) ?? (Logarithm with base i of i-th tetration of i subfactorial
@YosefTesfay Жыл бұрын
I think this method is also possible! Log 4 (x) + Log 2 (x)= 6 (Log 2 (x))/ Log 2 (4) + Log 2 (x) = 6 Let t = Log 2 (x) t/ Log 2 (4) + t = 6 t/ 2 + t = 6 3t/2 = 6 t= 4 Log 2 (x)= 4 x = 2^4 x= 16
@BigDBrian5 жыл бұрын
when you got lnX + 2lnX = 12ln2 you should just add the lefthand side, then divide everything by 3. So you'll get to lnX = 4ln2 = ln16 a lot faster and don't have to take the cube root which creates extraneous solutions
@mosesmwata76132 жыл бұрын
Correct but there’s still a simpler way to solve it log2 (x^0.5) + log2 (x) =6 log2 (x^1.5) = 6, we know log2 (2) =1 Let introduce log2 in the second member log2 (x^3/2) = 6log2 (2), (we know 3/2 = 1.5) Let’s write 6log2 (2) in the form of exponential log2 (x^3/2) = log2 (2^6) Then the log2 canceled out X^1.5 = 2^6 X= 2^6/1.5 X= 2^4 X= 16
@joeyde19812 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy how many math problems I do and I remember doing hundreds of these just months ago and I never retain the rules
@MrConverse5 жыл бұрын
Why not add ln(x)and 2ln(x) to get 3ln(x) then divide both sides by 3? Much simpler than the route to the solution shown in the video (IMO).
@ChaineYTXF5 жыл бұрын
I agree, but it has the advantage of showing more rules on logarithms
@Wyldina5 жыл бұрын
Remember he teaches stuff.. He wanna use as many different methods he can, without confusing people :>
@MrConverse5 жыл бұрын
I agree, Delta & Rune, that he probably did it the way he did to include more log laws. But I think taking the simpler route here would have been better. Those other rules could have been shown in another problem (or video). ;-)
@blackpenredpen5 жыл бұрын
Thad Spreg Honestly... I totally forgot about it. It was 10:30pm when I recorded this at school after 5 hours of teaching...
@MrConverse5 жыл бұрын
blackpenredpen you work very hard. We appreciate all your efforts!
@ΑΝΤΩΝΗΣΠΑΠΑΔΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ-ρ4τ2 жыл бұрын
you can either apply change of base law with ln or log_2, OR you can do the other way. log_4(x)+log_2(x)=6 (1) (1) --> log_4(x) = 6-log_2(x) let f(x) be log_4(x) and g(x) be 6-log_2(x) f is constantly increasing while g is constantly decreasing, thus there can be only one solution. By inspection, x=16 is a solution, therefore, 16 is the only solution **P.S. you could let f(x) = log_4(x)+log_2(x) and g(x) = 6 and stick to the same method, you will see that f is constantly increasing while g is a constant function, thus there can only be one intersection point at the most.
@rafikhan9085 жыл бұрын
Another option: 3lnx = 12ln2 ; divide by 3; rewrite RHS as ln2^4 and then antilog...etc.
@terapode5 жыл бұрын
You are a very good teacher.
@shizeli17022 жыл бұрын
you just need to know: log4(x)=1/2*log2(x)
@abu-karz2 жыл бұрын
So perfect so beautiful i can't believe it. Never seen something so cool in maths with such hard functions like this.
@ericventalon61135 жыл бұрын
in 4th line we can also write: ln x + 2 ln x = ln x (1 + 2) = 3 ln x = ln x ^ 3 I love this vidéo it s still good.
@beggibob62612 жыл бұрын
It took me 5 steps to finish this and i feel like he makes it complicated, i mean why don't you do like this for quicker? Step 1: we can turn the question into 1/2log2(x) + log2(x)=6 Step2: log2(x)(1/2+1)=6 Step3: 3/2 log2(x)=6 Step4: log2(x)=4 Step5: x=16. DONE!
@di-riso Жыл бұрын
You could also have taken log 2 getting log 2x +2logx=12 then log 2 x • x^2 so then log2 x^3 and then proceed the same way
@kirbo7222 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite bprp videos♥️
@MrRyanroberson15 жыл бұрын
here's how i solve it: 4_x means log base 4 of x, so we have the identity 4_x = 1/x_4 = 1/2 x_2 = 2_x /2 so 4_x + 2_x = 3/2 of 2_x = 6, we get 2_x = 4, x=16
@nvapisces70115 жыл бұрын
This one was easy. Could also use substitution to simplify things even further after change of base
@makhloufbenmehiris95595 жыл бұрын
You are the best professor in life Thank you
@alihasani6482 жыл бұрын
These videos are the only revision I do
@TheSandkastenverbot2 жыл бұрын
I just went by the definition of the logarithm: 4^2 =16 = 2^4. So if x=16 then log_4(x)=2 and log_2(x)=4. The sum is 6. This, of course, worked only because x is an integer and the logarithms as well.
@mallythepassmaster62658 ай бұрын
Simple method here the easiest....log 2^2^x+ log 2^x=6 1/2 log 2^x + log 2^x =6 Let log 2^x be k 1/2 k+ k =6 3/2k =6 k=4 But log 2^x =k which 4 Log 2 ^x=4 2^4=x X=16 Simplest way and easiest
@vhmix3792 жыл бұрын
log(x)/2log2 + logx/log2 = 3logx/2log2 = 6, 3logx =12log2, logx/4log2=1 , logbase16(X)=1 so that means x =16
@generaldarian12633 жыл бұрын
Another way I found to solve this: From lnx/2ln2 + lnx/ln2 = 6 Factor out (lnx/ln2): (lnx/ln2)(1/2 + 1) = 6 (lnx/ln2)(1.5) = 6 lnx/ln2 = 4 lnx = 4ln2 x = 2^4 = 16
@tobiaschapinda67713 жыл бұрын
Given that log_a p=0.7and log_a q=2, find log_a〖p^2 〗, log_a〖p^2 〗 q and log_a (apq)
@bearme11602 жыл бұрын
Just notice log4 is always a half of log2 and it can be rewritten as log4+2log4=6 which then can be written as 3log4=6-> log4x=2 x=4 to the power of 2=16
@onelastmanstanding Жыл бұрын
YOU ARE STILL SAVING LIFES
@lionbryce101015 жыл бұрын
Wow, I'm seeing a lot of different ways to solve this. Let me throw my 2 cents in (btw, if you do it this way, you'll lose points on most exam) See both are powers of 2 Try 8 as an input, see that it's short Try 16, it worked.
@mcwulf255 жыл бұрын
Easier to keep the coefficients outside of the ln. 3lnx = 12ln2 then x=2^4.
@dkiproch4 жыл бұрын
At second step if you just set the equation as log2(x)/log2(4) + log2(x)/log2(2) = 6 It would be much easier since log2(4)=2 and log2(2)=1
@AaronWGaming2 жыл бұрын
TBH I knew it was 16 without doing all the math... But I did it more by converting it back to Exponents... 4^y=x and 2^z=x Y+Z=6 From there 4^y=2^z Bring up a power to make it base 2 2^2Y=2^Z... 2y=z and Y+Z=6 from there 3Y=6 Y has to be 2 and Z 4 from there plug in to get X=16
@Catishcat4 жыл бұрын
but log(a^x)(b^y) = (y/x)log(b) so you could like log(4)(x) + log(2)(x) = 6 0.5log(2)(x) + log(2)(x) = 6 1.5log(2)(x) = 6 log(2)(x) = 4 x = 2^4
@shreyanssharma52803 жыл бұрын
Just have log2(x) as "t" and then t+t/2 = 6 which gives t= 4 so log2(x) = 4 or X= 16.
@minhaj2835 жыл бұрын
log_4(x) = y ---> x = 4^y = 2^(2y) Hence log_4(x) + log_2(x) = y+2y = 6 Hence y=2 and so x = 4^2 = 16 :D my way of doing it
@ricardovillanueva65192 жыл бұрын
Dear Jenna Grace, log[(4x)(2x)]=6. Now this: log(8x^2) = 6, a base 10 logarithm. Change it to exponential 8x^2=10^6 ; x=sqrt of 10^6/8
@viktyusk4 жыл бұрын
You chose the most complicated way to solve this.
@cyberguardreal2 жыл бұрын
I'm quite new to logs but realised that log_x(y) is the same as log_(x^n)(y^n) so you can rewrite log_4(x) as log_2(x^1/2) and proceed to solve log_2(x * sqrt/x) =6
@manuelgonzales25702 жыл бұрын
Very good exercise. Thank you!
@roderickwhitehead5 жыл бұрын
I woulda just combined the terms on the left to 3*ln(x), then divided both sides by 3, yielding: ln(x)= 4*ln(2)
@i_am_anxious025 жыл бұрын
ln(x)+2ln(x)=12ln(2) 3ln(x)=12ln(2) ln(x)=4ln(2) ln(x)=ln(2^4) x=2^4 x=16 It’s mathematically the same, it just feels better doing it this way for me idk
@angelmendez-rivera3515 жыл бұрын
Here is a good one: can one use the Lambert W function along with all the other elementary functions we are acquainted with to solve an equation of the general form e^x = Ax^2 + Bx + C ? And if so, what is the general solution in terms of A, B, and C?
@ziasquared57535 жыл бұрын
Not really a math question, but how do you write on a whiteboard using two pens? I kind of wanna see a close up lol.
@ffggddss5 жыл бұрын
Easy after a little tutelage in legerdemain. Manipulating multiple objects in one hand. Fred
@PedroHenrique-vs3mf8 ай бұрын
Incredible work
@Iamaayushmaurya5 жыл бұрын
Please integrate tan inverse X whole upon 1 + x square to the whole power 3 by 2
Solving in under a minute: Log 2^2 x = log 2 x / 2 Log2 x = a a + 2a = 12 a = 4 log 2 x = 4 log 2 2 log 2 x = log 2 16 X = 16
@MartinUToob2 жыл бұрын
I really liked the conclusion. (That must make you feel real smart.)
@hata62902 жыл бұрын
Oh my god I figured out a bprp problem before he finished on a three year old video about algebra 2 LETS GOOOO
@tooba62904 жыл бұрын
We could also resolve the first term into base 2 it's easier that way
@deyomash11 ай бұрын
I recognized that since we have logs of 4 and 2 which can both be written as a number base 2 I let x = 2^m. Then you get m/2 + m = 6 or m = 4 so x=16 :P
@overlordprincekhan4 жыл бұрын
You could take log base 2 instead of natural log. That would simplify more
@PracticeMakePerfectMuslim93 Жыл бұрын
this shown step by step rather than shortcut 😊
@Fire_AxusАй бұрын
use an exponential substitution
@junaidislam42775 жыл бұрын
How about solving a exponential equation with different base? Like this 2*5^x-7^x=1 I have tried for at least 2 hour but couldn't find the solution yet. If you help me find its solution please!
@HeavyArmoredMedic5 жыл бұрын
I'm high-schooler so i don't know if this is the right way for solving but here is my solution: hizliresim.com/oXd2rk I think there can be a mistake when we using the root because we find x=0 but root is 5^x it's equal to 1 :P
@JensenPlaysMC5 жыл бұрын
havent tried but you might need to use the lambert w function
@angelmendez-rivera3515 жыл бұрын
Jensen No, that is not sufficient. Equations of the form a^x + b^x = c cannot be solved in the general case analytically, not even using the W function you mentioned. You can only solve it if a = b or if c = 0 or if ab = 0 or if a = 1 or if b = 1. To visualize how this cannot be solved in the general case, all you must show is that this equation requires solving a pseudo-polynomial, which also cannot be done.
@JensenPlaysMC5 жыл бұрын
@@angelmendez-rivera351 Could you link me to somewhere where i can find more about what a pseudo polynomial is? i can only find computing pesudo polynomial runtime algorithms
@angelmendez-rivera3515 жыл бұрын
Jensen Well, I used the term “pseudo-polynomial” a little differently. Notice that a^x = e^[ln(a) x] and b^x = e^[ln(b) x]. So a^x + b^x = e^[x ln(a)] + e^[x ln(b)] = [e^x]^[ln(a)] + [e^x]^[ln(b)] = c. Let y = e^x, so the equation is now y^ln(a) + y^ln(b) = c. I called it pseudo polynomial because it is similar to a polynomial equation, but it is different in that the powers are not from integer exponents, unlike true polynomials. But these equations cannot be solved analytically. Something so simple as y^ln(2) + y^2 = c cannot be solved without numerical approximation. Not even with W can we do anything about it.
@inankazanc27245 жыл бұрын
So this equation contains 3 solutions,since x^3=2^12?
@angelmendez-rivera3515 жыл бұрын
No, this equation is not a cubic equation, where are you getting the idea that this equation is a cubic equation? (3/2)log2(x) = 6 => log2(x) = 4 => x = 2^4 = 16. Turning it into a cubic is not only unnecessary, but it changes the equation itself, and therefore it’s solution set. You are not allowed to simply create irreversible functions in a manipulation.
@plplpop13 жыл бұрын
Without using change of base formula: Raise to power of 4: 4^[log4(x)+log2(x)] = 4^6 -> 4^log4(x) * 4^log2(x) = 4^6 -> x * (2*2)^log2(x) = 4^6 -> x * 2^log2(x) * 2^log2(x) = 4^6 -> x * x * x = 4^6 -> x^3 = 4^6 -> x = 4^(6/3) -> x = 4^2 -> x = 16 :) (Of course though, in general the change of base is what will always work haha)
@wahyuadi355 жыл бұрын
This logarithmic question is still so.. easy as cake.
@Harsh-cs5zn Жыл бұрын
2:55 here the lowest common denominator was ln2 and not 2ln2