Solving Drag Race Conspiracy Theories

[@wisterio.musicgeek]

9:40 Does anyone remember the AS6 spoilers saying that Silky won 7 lip-syncs in a row for the Rudemption Smackdown and nobody was buying it until it was revealed to be true 😂

[@maximeminassian6002]

At this point I feel like the jury twist being a way to not tarnish Bebe’s legacy while at the same time not having to crown her is not just a conspiracy theory but a well known fact.

[@highonsugar6273]

Tbh though she really ate all stars 3 up, I don’t remember one challenge she flopped in, they could’ve crowned her again if they wanted to

[@maximeminassian6002]

@@highonsugar6273 100% she did amazing and let’s be honest, if she was in that final 2 lip sync, she would have most likely destroyed Trixie

[@CarlDillynson]

Oh for sure, for sure

[@jackiecozzie4803]

​@@highonsugar6273 they could've, but it might've seemed a little unfair for the other queens. Making them compete against a winner and then letter her beat all of them is a little unsatisfying for an all stars return

[@wayne9_9]

​@@highonsugar6273 honestly I think Bebe did quite bad on the last acting challenge, but yes she was quite consistent

[@nicojimenez9614]

Derek you forgot one SUBSTANTIAL theory to cover: was it 40 inches?

[@OtherBlueFae]

The world may never know. 🤣

[@majelalover8837]

"40 inch" from luxx' is like "10 inch" on Grindr

[@benjaminmorales8554]

she said "trust", and i trust her 🥹

[@Brandoncye]

It definitely wasn't 40inchs. Maybe it started as 40inch, but all the ends split and broke off to make it a 36incher!

[@magickaldust1213]

There was no way in the WORLD that was 40 inches 😂

[@DiegoGiovani15]

Where are the gay hackers to leak AS7 reunion

[@glooperscooper]

It's a lot harder when it was never released

[@juli3ncore]

at this point Bob should just say his computer was hacked and post the whole thing

[@roiscavel3923]

Once Bob dies, the FBI will give the gays what they want. Yvie said so.

[@psio4213]

@@juli3ncore if I was him I’d pay a hacker to hack my own computer & leak it for me.

[@cherrielime]

The long con that i need right here!​@@psio4213

[@angelgregory9445]

I have a theory: Drag Race will gladly let a plus size queen make it to the final but never actually win the crown.

[@Twinkdoesdrag]

Baby, that’s not a theory, that’s a FACT

[@lauranoble3765]

What about Laurence Chaney?

[@cindyshirreffs2099]

Ginger was robbed

[@Genderanarchy]

@@lauranoble3765I think we are talking the main series/the USA version.

[@aSuperFruitTTV]

​@@cindyshirreffs2099🤔 I don't think so, lol. Ginger had 2 wins and was high 1 other time and 3 bottom placements. Kylie had 3 bottom placements, 1 win, 3 other high placements, eureka had 5 high placements, 3 bottoms and a win and Rajah had 3 top placements 2 wins 2 bottoms To say ginger was even top 2 is nonsense lol

[@waddledeedeee]

id say that as3 was made for bendelacreme to win - all the challenges besides the talent show required to come up with and portray a character, which is delas main strength, and she was a massively popular, "robbed" queen. when she self-eliminated, shangela became the new winner pick, since she had the second best track record, a large fanbase, and a perfect "from first boot to winner" storyline. and then, when the jury voted her off, i think thats when trixie was chosen as the winner over kennedy. trixie was definitely brought in as a fan-fave, but given how little she was pushed on the season and how often she was sidelined in favor of dela and shangela, i dont think as3 was made for her to win

[@j-holewyoming]

AS3 was 100% supposed to be Ben. Shangela was 2nd production choice, not Trixie

[@marie4564]

If they wanted Trixie to win, they could’ve just given her a roast and makeover challenge and it would’ve been two EASY wins. So yeah, it was never built for Trixie, she was just in the right place at the right time

[@Dark_Aeon]

I disagree. Ben became hugely popular AFTER AS3. She had her 2 wins on season 6, then lowkey dissappeared for anyone outside of seattle. She wasn't as present online or touring like shangela or trixie at the time.

[@nicolasf7243]

Disagree, I think once Ben self eliminated they saw Trixie as the best option due to her established brand and thought crowning her would put her on the fast track to success separate from drag race (it did). There is literally no way they wanted to crown Shangela and then still went ahead with the jury twist. production teams on reality tv are extremely calculated and they know everything, they would’ve checked to see what the outcome of the jury twist would be before implementing it they’re never EVER gonna hand the narrative over so easily like you’re suggesting they did. Especially in that specific era of drag race where picking who was gonna carry the torch of the brand was so important to perpetuating and capitalizing on the success of the show, there’s literally zero way Trixie wasn’t their pick after Ben left.

[@sunnydays07]

⁠@@Dark_Aeonno, because Dela still was fan favourite in multiple ways: she was the hero to Darienne's villain, she won Miss Congeniality when it was still the fan vote, she was a favourite going into AS3, there are signs saying that she was a favourite in the fanbase, she was just catapulted to legend status through AS3.

[@waddledeedeee]

still, the most important of the conspiracy theories remains unresolved: who was after peppermint?

[@Mylittleaddiction2802]

Farrah moan

[@littlehilltide]

why WERE they acting brand new 🤔

[@theophilepetit6223]

also, who f$cked Monét ?

[@Kyrriie]

I can hear this comment hahahahahaha, why yal acting brand new?? She is fucking hillarious

[@spectre5307]

@@littlehilltide Farrah moan had headphones on 😂😂

[@I_AM_AN_ANDJEL]

Babe wake up Drag Detective is solving drag race conspiracies

[@Kyrriie]

😂😂

[@rogelio9225]

Honestly an universe in where we have an evil sasha colby that still is as talented and skilled and manages to be the most evil messy villain and still steamrolls the competition in which the major storyline is everyone trying to take her down and failing would be the most crazy season ever

[@guilhermefd30]

that's literally season 2

[@Twinkdoesdrag]

@@guilhermefd30LMFAOOO

[@tuwuesday]

that's seasons 2, 3, and 7

[@DiegoSinclair1820]

Production was so dumb for not letting BeBe be the mole, that would have blown wigs.

[@eludeirkz7961]

I fully believe AS4 was made for Manilla to win, but when she did /that/ bad in the makeover challenge and both Monet and Naomi picked her lipstick they decided to crown Trinity, but then the drama of "another white girl with blonde hair winning"

[@Kiwiiismama]

I have a genuine question, why does the fandom make everything about race? How about letting queens get casted for talent and skill instead of being the token black or brown or Asian girl? I recently started rewatching the older seasons and the majority of the cast are poc. So are they finding a problem cause it’s different now or it’s just an America thing other people won’t get? I’d rather watch someone for their performance than what they look like. Doesn’t matter if they look like me or not, it’s a big opportunity and they should just be glad for the people who got in.

[@eludeirkz7961]

@Kiwiiismama at the time of AS4 there was a lot of rumors that Trinity was gonna win and people made jokes and memes of the hall of fame being only white girls with blonde hair I personally agree with you that drag race is way more inclusive than most any other show on TV so we should only talk about their talent

[@Ryusevi]

The reason for the double crowning, and I will die on that hill, was optics. 4 white queens winning in a row doesn't look like smth drag race would want. Trinity had 4 wins and was only in the bottom once when half the queens were in the bottom while monet was in the bottom twice with 3 wins. They couldnt just give it to monet cause trinity did that well so they did the double to cover their asses.

[@RomansR2]

plus they stacked the cast with queens of color probably to try and avoid another white winner

[@Dark_Aeon]

It pains me to admit it, but it's true. They should have casted Trinity on AS5 to avoid this. She's a pageant queen who's a beast in a drag race format.

[@pseudonymous9153]

Blonde and white?

[@pseudonymous9153]

Are we ready to admit that's the only reason s14 had a top 5?

[@dxnnxxmc]

unfortunately Willow definitely lost that lipsync. well....i should say the audience lost that lipsync​@@pseudonymous9153

[@khntou4178]

I 100% believe Jinkx was pre-determined winner for AS7. Both Bob and Alaska mentioned that they weren't even asked for the season even though they would happily do it. I think this proves there exists a shortlist of queens like any All Star season where production wouldn't mind crowning. They keep Bob and Alaska for another All Winners season since I do believe they're also on this list.

[@brandonmoseley4447]

How does it benefit WOW to crown Jinkx? Not saying I don’t believe it, just wondering how that makes sense.

[@khntou4178]

@@brandonmoseley4447 Jinkx arguably has the most fan support as the GOATS of Drag Race.

[@saltylemon5090]

7:18 the only other AS8 queens that I think could have gone head to head with Jimbo was Heidi, but they overlooked her so much at the start of the season and then she left the competition.

[@juannava4532]

There’s a huge elephant in the room nobody wants to talk about AS4, I think trinity was going to win but they saw the audience reaction to the optics so they had to do it because had it been monet winning there’s no way they would’ve considered trinity for a double crowning.

[@chids6303]

That's kinda funny cos I've heard rumours that because of her finale performance, production wanted to solo crown monet, but trinity's insane fan reception compared to the other 3 in the top4 caused production to double crown in an attempt to satisfy everyone. Obviously this is not fact, just rumours and speculation so take with a huge pile of salt

[@stanislavmegued554]

​@@chids6303if they wanted the queen of color to win AS so badly, why not Monique? At the time and still to this day I could see her taking a solo crown and be good with that. Monet? Not so much.

[@Dark_Aeon]

My conspiracy for AS7 is slightly different. I think they intentionally gave Monet and Jinkx Swish Swish as a finale lip sync. Those two were 100% going to be the finalists even before the season started. It was 100% engineered that Jinkx had the best track record and Monet won the lip sync. They knew Monet would demolish Jinkx in a song with a lengthy Nicki verse. They wanted a controversial ending with a classic "track record vs lip sync" discourse and they got it. We're still talking about it.

[@iop283]

If that’s the case I believe they wouldn’t have edited the lip-sync the way they did. Also they’ve been trying very hard to avoid a winner not being well received by the fan since s2 so I don’t think your theory adds up. They just made poor format choices and then had to do damage control

[@Dark_Aeon]

@@iop283 if they were trying to rig it all the way in Jinkx favor, they would have left a different song for the final 2 lip sync. They knew Monet would win with a Nicki verse.

[@beckstheimpatient4135]

I convinced my (straight) bf to watch S7 of All Stars with me, and while he absolutely loved the show, he was confused about the wins. I explained to him that it was most likely a question of production 'paying their dues' to two queens who are just EXCEPTIONAL even outside of DR. He loved Jynkx but clearly saw she lost the final lip-sync, and didn't get why Raja was chosen over someone like Trinity. And even he noticed how Yvie was sidelined immediately, which disappointed him.

[@shawnbay2211]

Thx 4 reporting. Forces us 2 acknowledge AS7 was made 4 already-fans who wanted Jinkx 2 win. It’s such an oddly small section of ppl 2 cater 2. It’s like the show wasn’t trying 2 get new fans, but bring back old fans.

[@beckstheimpatient4135]

@@shawnbay2211 I mean, all seasons are rigged in some way - and he absolutely ADORED the season, as did I. Something can have great entertainment value and yet be unfair to some people, it's sadly how things work.

[@kebaobabione]

The double crowning on AS4 had to be preplanned. There’s no way they just had a 100K prize money lying around which may have been used

[@bugginonthewall]

Omg Drag Theories? Matpat is now DragPat 💅

[@Arkanika]

RIP MATPAT GONE BUT NEVER FORGOTTEN

[@evasyoutubeera]

Bro once i was watching a random gtlive and it started with matpat talking about how he want to dragcon AND I WAS SO SURPRISED LOL now i have a huge curiosity for his drag race opinions

[@bugginonthewall]

@@evasyoutubeera I know the exact ep you’re on about OMG YES!! Was not expecting Matt to be a squirrel friend, so iconic tho 🤣 i need him to collab with the dolls now 💅

[@גלעדסוירזנסקי]

I'm confused. Did he die?​@@Arkanika

[@Arkanika]

@@גלעדסוירזנסקי nah he’s just not doing KZbin anymore - I was just making a joke

[@confuchsia9742]

Just mentioning (although a totally different production company), that when Gia Gunn participated in The Switch Drag Race, they wrote in her contract that she would make it to the finale

[@tial2572]

I wouldn’t say all stars 3 was made for trixie when Ben de la Christ and Shangela were there

[@RileyMatevia-ve4yp]

Maybe I'm delusional, but I fully feel like the producers were eyeing either Jimbo OR Heidi as their winner. I know everyone thinks AS8 was made solely for Jimbo, but I really believe in my gut that if Heidi didn't quit, she easily would've made it to the final 2 with Jimbo

[@chanceanding4284]

I could see it, but they also did Heidi dirty early on. Maybe she was gonna get given an underdog storyline, but usually there’s some behind the scenes shenanigans when that happens

[@alejandrosaul4168]

Never forgiving production for not putting Heidi in the top for the ball or acting challenge. Absolutely bonkers.

[@SweetJackknife]

I couldn’t see Heidi winning that season. I mean, *I* could because I thought she did very well, but they just overlooked her from the start.

[@c.k.8585]

Heidi absolutely had the potential and the package to win the season but imo given how they paid her dust when absolutely should have won the ball and been in the top for the acting challenge it does seem clear to me that they were planning to keep Kandy till the end and have Jimbo win. And maybe they gave Jaymes some preferential treatment but she broke down on the first episode (and her breakdown was completely removed in the edit) so that plan went out the window pretty immediately.

[@trao1938]

Watching Jimbo made me tune in to other countries' versions of RPDR, something I'd lacked any interest in doing before.

[@highonsugar6273]

I would’ve lived if Bebe got crowned again tbh, but I actually believe all stars 3 was made for Shangela and Dela over Trixie, what other reason would be for why they had far better parts in the rusical

[@karacoconutag]

I agree, and I would say that even though Trixie was obviously popping off outside of the drag race world around that time, shangela was just as much if not more. So they would have had every motivation to send her towards the crown.

[@highonsugar6273]

@@karacoconutag also I’m not sure they would be confident enough in Trixie’s abilities to win a season, because she didn’t do that amazing on season 7, so why would they plan a season for her to win when she could’ve very possibly done badly

[@thiefpotato2759]

Idk, I feel like the jury was made to make sure Trixie made it to top 2 or to potentially not set up a winner who won the most. I don't think they wanted Shangela to win at all. They had to have known that jury would make people who were upset that they lost not vote for whoever eliminated them. I think their choice was always Trixie and Dela leaving wouldn't have changed much of their plan.

[@benjaminmorales8554]

honestly, trixie even did better than what her track record shows

[@highonsugar6273]

@@thiefpotato2759 I don’t think they realised that Shangela would lose because of the jury when they made the season, they did push Shangela more than anyone in the competition by giving her the best part in the rusical and putting her in the top for snatch game over Aja, the jury twist was only to prevent Bebe from winning again without tarnishing her reputation but I doubt they realise it would affect Shangela too since Shangela was such a beloved queen

[@Inki_Inc]

The only time a spoiler made the show better was when we realized Silky was actually going to win all those lipsyncs. Gooped and Gagged that spoiler was real!

[@deyoncew3311]

5:11 AS3 was made for DeLa And I believe AS4 was for Manila. And because of the fact that the LSFYL format screwed up their winner pick twice in a row they switched to the Assassin format.

[@Book_Tendo]

The Latrilla theory is so bogus. If it had been planned the double win wouldn’t have been edited so badly

[@arininquotes8396]

Regarding the "pre-selected winners of all stars" conspiracy, I've been saying this one for years now. It also fits if the reason All Winners went down the way it did was because each queen was told they would be the winner in advance ("hey __, come back to drag race, you'll win it!") and they got there and found out this was the case.

[@jaehyuncoonce]

I don’t think production writes it into the contract but I could see them especially for all stars saying verbally to people that they want them till the end and then once people get to the season they see if they were lied to or not 💀

[@saint5939]

That explains why there are queens who are SUPER SUPER devastated or betrayed when they leave earlier than planned and they can't talk about it, because then the backlash will be on them for accepting such a rigged contract

[@ahirukai4236]

Sadly imo the only reason Raj'ah was crowned is because Isis quit which blindsided productions plans

[@TheDopekitty]

Yeah, after she sent home the other two Canadians, they were kinda stuck, but Victoria could just as easily have won

[@Brandoncye]

​@@TheDopekittynooo Victoria was awful 😖

[@justthecoolestdudeyo9446]

Regarding hosts returning as contestants- Pangina was a host that returned as a contestant already! It's not theoretical it already happened, that's why she's like a breakout star lol

[@moongravel191]

even if it doesn't matter at all, i believe that they switched the spots of the host and guest on the pit stop to make it feel more like unnnhh with trixie on the left

[@dylansteward3023]

For UKVTW 1 I understand your reasoning but I feel like Pangina and Jimbo were front runners before they got eliminated. So I feel like production would have crowned them if they made it to the finale - the only reason they didn’t is because of the other competitors.

[@juli3ncore]

I think they could've made it to the semi-finals, but they were always going to crown someone from the UK. Like in UKVTW 2, Marina was clearly the strongest queen but they edited the lipsync to not put her in the top 2 and give the crown to Tia - no shade towards Tia tho, that season was amazing and I love her, but production def wanted to give the crown to someone from the UK

[@mcgiant1983]

Probably shenanigans between the BBC and WOW

[@guipavao2960]

I don’t know, for me I think production wouldn’t need to pay monet to flop the lip sync while they can simply edit her to look worse than Valentina. I mean it’s a possibility that they did but for me the editing option seems more simple

[@My-hat]

I can’t imagine the double crowning being last minute, surely they couldn’t just find that large some of money from nowhere?! It’s not like they split it?

[@sparkle6772]

ok i have one for down under. i believe that art was going to be the host originally and when ru came on they had to hastily promise her a spot in the finale. that explains her randomly coming back in the last few episodes

[@justthecoolestdudeyo9446]

Lowkey I don't think Monet flopped the Into You lipsync, I think people just expect her to be super high energy like that Starships lipsync, but she prioritizes face a lot. I suspect that Into You and Supernova are actually similar (high) quality Money performances, it's just that AS4 needed to more strongly convince the viewer that Monet lost.

[@itsallwayspouringo]

Idk, I really don’t like the theories that say x queen didn’t do well in y thing because they were payed off. To my knowledge we don’t have any precedent for them being bribed. In the case of Monet, I’m gonna go with Occam’s Razor and just say she just didn’t do as well as she typically does. It’s not like she never lost a lip sync before that point

[@leoleague6053]

Wait? Did someone actually die at stonewall?

[@DragDetective]

nobody was killed?

[@Hhaggot]

​@@DragDetectiveNobody was killed at stonewall..

[@elil1322]

That was… fighting for gay rights!

[@foreseeableobstacles]

YIPPEEEE new drag detective video everyone cheered 🎉🎉

[@fikujez]

Am I the only one who remembers Monet being upset about losing that lip sync to Valentina? She was pouting in the werkroom right after. I don't believe she threw it.

[@sunnydays07]

It’s very clear she was not giving her all though. Could have just been playing it up for storyline, Monet is good TV!

[@AliaOfTheKnife10191]

If All Stars 3 was rigged for Trixie to win, she would have won the talent show, they would have dunked on Milk way harder for throwing her off, and they wouldn’t have put her in the bottom for the girl group challenge.

[@icannot1104]

This is such a delusional statement in itself.

[@icannot1104]

We know you Stan trixie but let’s be fr.

[@dreicollins6448]

They are really planning to crown double queens in all stars 4 having a 100,000 each not divided. They have sponsors money already.

[@CarissaEllyn]

I don’t think they have them written into contracts like you said, but I think they have their favorites who they push. And that became really evident to me in s9 when valentine went home

[@classycolas]

Truuuu, ru was clearly big mad when she said "I thought you had what it takes to go all the way" like that was so clearly "bitch we pushed you as a frontrunner and you did THIS???"

[@trao1938]

I don't believe any Queens would be offered money to lose a lip sync. That's something which could very easily be proven, and it would permanently damage the enmtire franchise. I DO believe Queens will decide on their own to 'throw' a lip-sync, because it's a strategic move. Regarding AS7, I don't think the Queens were informed Jinxx was going to win. However, based on the challenges, and the talents they're geared toward, they all probably figured out the season leaned in Jinxx's favor.

[@trao1938]

@Rajj-gc8lo So then at which point did the producers inform these Queens that Jinxx was winning the crown, no matter what happens? Was it when they agreed to participate, or perhaps was it when they signed their contracts? Did the producers wait until everyone showed up on set to tell them this news? Exactly how were the Queens told the season was rigged?

[@trao1938]

@Rajj-gc8lo Yet you still can't answer the quwstion Oh. Btw, literacy means having the ability to read, genius. And based on your sentence structure and punctuation, I'd wager you were homeschooled by gophers.

[@SavioByrczak]

I think All Stars 3 was made for Ben or Shangela but they fcked themselves over with the jury vote.

[@lilhonor5425]

Okay the Mystique of drag is an iconic line

[@phantomask]

I need more conspiracy theories ASAP or I'll give you the chop. lol. I'm excited for next week. This video made me subscribe and turn notif on. keep up the great work!

[@moonstoneuniverse8516]

All stars 1: Chad All stars 2: Alaska All stars 3: Ben or a Ben like winner All stars 4: A non blonde and white queen (Trinity and Farrah were the only white queens on come on guys) All stars 5: Shea All stars 7: Jinkx All stars 8: Jimbo Yeah All stars 6 is the only one though I do believe All stars 6 should have been Ra’jah’s season.

[@patdrox22]

In AS4 the production originally wanted both Manila and Latrice (asian and black) to win for the sake of AS1 'Synergy' Rudemption story line and to break the curse of crowning only white and blonde winners for the last 3 seasons. Since Manila was eliminated by Naomi and Latrice underperformed with poor track record throughout the season, they decided to scrap the idea at last minute and will crown a black queen with best track record by episode 8 (either Monet or Monique). Unfortunately Naomi had no chance of winning the crown with one win and also because she eliminated the most beloved front runner of the season. Her winning might angered the fan base. By episode 9 Trinity unexpectedly won her 4th win and had the best track record of all of them, they just decided to give the crown to her at the end. However by crowning Trinity it will tarnish the series reputation when people will think that the production is racist that they only do crown white and blonde winners. By not crowning her meant that she was robbed in the fans eyes when she truly deserved the crown. It's a both lose lose situation -- they may have noticed this only after post production and it's already too late by that time to cover the mistake. For that reason they may have decided to crown a black queen as the another winner before airing of the finale as it was unplanned. Also double crowning was also not filmed which confirmed the tea that only Trinity was the chosen winner of the season. Monet was in the bottom two / three twice and already she lost as contender to win the crown in the penultimate episode. During LOGO + VH1 era no winner has been in the bottom TWO more than once. The only one to beat Trinity for the crown was Monique with only one bottom two by that point. Although I think Monique deserved it more than Monet due to track record but Monet definitely ate it the finale. But since Monet was in the final two along Trinity and her crowning was already recorded they just gave the second crown her just to avoid backlash from the fans. Hence Monet was the 'collateral' winner.

[@moonstoneuniverse8516]

@@patdrox22 COULD NOT HAVE SAID IT BETTER THANK YOU!!! It’s nice that someone in this fandom is completely delusional 💙💙💙

[@benjaminmorales8554]

​@@patdrox22agree

[@alorockss]

AS6's winner was heavily dependant on the outcome of S13. Some other KZbinr (or maybe even this one) said that the AS season had themes, and AS6's theme was redemption for the contestants, but also Ru's redemption. He had one too many "scandals" (they weren't really scandals but things were being said) about his transphobia or even how the show was anti black and all that. Both S13 and AS6 had a black and a trans contestant in the finale. I believe production's idea was to crown both, a black and a trans winner. So depending on the outcome in season 13, which was a black winner, AS6 chose its own winner, who was the trans winner. So while the season didn't have a set picked winner, it was heavily produced to get the trans contestant and black contestants to the finale (Rajah and/or Trinity). Just look at the edit on Kylie's lipsync, that fall was either win or lose situation and they decided to amp it up to make it a stunt, because she was the picked winner at that point.

[@benjaminmorales8554]

@@alorockss THIS MAKE SO MUCH SENSE

[@peggingthestallion6365]

Yeah, get the unrigging video ready they played with jorgess and plastique soo hard. Even the firefighters were shocked and noone was gagging over roxangees firefighter in untucked. Insane

[@aquilaorion3531]

i just don’t know why production would waste money on under the table bribes for queens to throw a lip sync when they could just edit around a queen’s performance to make it look like the other won, as they’ve already done multiple times (see: monet vs jinkx as7 and hannah vs marina ukvtw2)

[@DiegoGiovani15]

The vixen's and acid betty's fake spoilers are the best!

[@Momofan69]

Yvie's "tea" was 'I won due to pity' the type of pity where you give the best dancer award to the wheelchair kid lmao

[@gemmagemma-wx2bs]

Agreed

[@FiODBD]

5:17 All stars 4 was made for Trinity. But the fandom was complaining (rightfully so) that there had been no black queens to win AS and its going into its 4th season. So thats why we go the double win with Monet and Trin.

[@izzy_tdofcc]

i’ve been watching the drag detective since 2022 and omfg i love this channel it’s so entertaining

[@LucyLu_meztli]

3:44 I kind of think the plan was for Icesis to win… which went out the window when she had to quit to take care of herself. Rita wasn’t a good backup since there was already precedent for favoritism backlash. Then a non Canadian queen won, which is awesome, but maybe not planned. It hurt me a bit when they did the DR Canada crowned queens photoshoot and Ra’Jah wasn’t invited… 🥲

[@iitsnoee]

1. Trixie wasn’t the top priority on AS3, it was made for DeLa (there were mostly acting and character-centred challenges) while they kept an eye on Shangela and made sure to never put Bebe in the bottom (the kitty girls challenge for example, Trixie did better than her and could have easily been in the top 2); her being a fan favourite surely guaranteed that she was gonna be in the finale, but it took DeLa quitting and Shangela being voted out for her to win (she never won a top 2 lip sync, ergo she never won a challenge) 2. in vsTW and global all stars i only see US or UK to win cuz they’re more marketable, but i’d add canadian queens to the bunch as well; in UKvsTW 1 i could have seen Jimbo as a possible winner, with Pangina as a runner up to not demolish her reputation 3. for AS4, a pretty common theory is that they wanted to crown a black queen, hence the double crowning, but its suspicious that the double crowning wasn’t filmed if it was planned (where did they find an extra prize of 100k$)

[@My-hat]

I’m not sure when Ru said it but there’s an interview on a chat show (perhaps Jimmy fallon or Kimmel or something like that) where he’s asked ‘ is there a queen you think should’ve won / deserves a title but never got one.’ Ru answers, ‘SHANGELA’. So maybe this gives credence to those who think all stars 3 was supposed to be for her?!

[@guineppe3405]

All stars 4 was made for a person of color to win. After crowning 3 “blonde” white queens in a row, production kinda needed to crown a non-white queen to save face after there was some controversy over who made up the hall of fame. looking at the cast, there was only 2 white queens and farrah was definitely not gonna win. so i think they kept the double crowning as an option in case trinity won the season. if a queen of color was the clear front runner, then i dont think it wouldve been a double crowning

[@bobthehandyman3650]

My hot take for AS4 double crowning was that, it was an election time in the US, and white skinny queens have been crowned in AS1, 2,3 and if trinity solo won it would have been a hall of fame full of white blonde skinny queens and it's just a bad look. I'm glad Monet was crowned she deserved it after the lipsync and a great run but I feel like race was a factor for the decision makers in the end to not making trinity win by herself

[@johnayalachef]

Being Hispanic myself I am biased. We’ve had countless queer Latin drag entertainments and it a huge community. Why are people still allowed to say, what I don’t understand or they don’t understand it’s not their language. Enough! I sincerely think Jessica Wilde deserved more because she did more. ❤

[@Housewarmin]

I saw that queens don't want to do Allstars anymore unless it's a non-elimination season. I... don't know if I'll keep watching Allstars if there aren't any elimnations. Even after a few episodes of AS9 I'm ready to see someone go home. and Untucked is quite boring. It makes sense for an All Winners season, but I'd love to know your thoughts if Allstars transitions into non-eliminations every year.

[@FireEmblemElitist]

Imo a non-elimination season works best if I know there's going to be a high caliber of drag every episode, hence why it worked for all winners. I think it could also work if they did all top-5s or something like that, but having girls like Vanjie, Nina, and Jorgeous in every episode is unnecessary lol.

[@Housewarmin]

@@FireEmblemElitist I agree, there's a reason some of these girls never won a challenge on their season, or were always in the bottom. They might have a great personality, but you know they aren't going to slay the competition every week.

[@pseudonymous9153]

I can't imagine being such a miserable person that I can't enjoy art unless I get to see people suffering.

[@HD-qh6ku]

This would be true except the BBC is a public broadcaster. They're not allowed to make money on shows made directly in/for the UK market. BBC is funded through he TV license which eveyrone in the UK is obliged to pay if they watch live TV. The only way they can make money outside of this is if they sell the show they have made to an international broadcaster. Even then, the funds go to BBC Worldwide which is it's commercial arm. This is independent from the rest of the BBC and predominately serves to provide impartial news coverage around the world, commercial existing BBC content and has a soft power objective

[@גלעדסוירזנסקי]

As3 was definitely not made for Trixie. It was made for either Dela or Shangela

[@SAVAGELANDING]

I find it so strange when they say that season 7 was rigged for Jinkx when the talent show gave 3 stars and it was made for Shea and Monet to reach the top

[@ayembic7933]

The real rigging in ASS7 was keeping vivienne out of the top 4 so jinkx could have a clear identity and route to the crown. Viv and jinkx excel in much the same skills so viv would overshadow jinkx as an impersonator and comic (edges she has over Monet). Jinkx would be there as the actress, viv the comic and impersonator, trinity the jack of all, shea the dancer, monet the performer/singer so viv had to be kept out so jinkx vould look like she had a more dominant skillset. Thats why the cut so much of viv out of the edit when the other queens say she smashed challenges where she was barely shown.. imo

[@SAVAGELANDING]

@@ayembic7933 True! I also noticed that, I wish we could get another edit where we can see what was missed from her. However I still felt that giving 3 stars at the end looked forced.

[@saraviennas]

But wasn’t the judges genuinely shocked for Shangela not going to the finals and even ru has said in interviews later that shangela was robbed, literally the only name he remembers 😂 doubt he’d say that if Tracy was rigged to win?

[@craigresendes2403]

With versus the world (especially UK), the non-native Anglophone queens are always going to struggle due to how the season is set up. The competition is through that country’s lens of humor, and certain nuances may be missed if English is not a queen’s native language. Canada is a little different because it is not exclusively an Anglophone nation, so the seasons are not catered to a specific language. Unfortunately we have yet to see Canada vs. the World cast a non-Anglo/Francophone queen, so we won’t know how they fare.

[@mattbice9991]

The only problem with the VTW theory is the BBC funding isn't based on engagement, viewership, or advertising its publicly funded and defunding it is very unpopular with the British public. So the winners on BBC produced seasons wouldn't necessarily have the same motivations for crowning a British queen in economic terms as much as cultural terms. Crave, WOW, and VH1 on the other hand profit is 80% of the decision for sure.

[@ricardoderas4906]

I don't believe money got paid to loose the lipsync, even if he did good. Valentina pissed on that floor, you are kind of discrediting her lipsync?

[@whoszmnwho]

monet has admitted she got whooped in that lipsync very recently so she for sure wasn’t paid

[@whoszmnwho]

@Rajj-gc8lo ok

[@carrie4144]

If you guys do want Spoilers for episodes, The Drag Access is a very credible channel.

[@mindecstacyy5026]

All stars 3 wasn't made for Trixie because if it was she would have 3 wins (with the girl group) instead i think it was made for Shangela. Since she was given the snatch game winner(which should've been Aja's) and and that Rusical(where it could've been Trixie or Thorgy because Shangela's Mariah was something and plus her lines were written to be funnier than others)

[@CampCasserole]

I thought of a crazy twist for All Stars. It's like the Platinum Plunger and Ruby Snippers. But it's a Magic Wand. And the challenge winner can make one queen disappear and not be featured on the next episode. That would be gaggy.

[@klausarmanius2639]

your new intro is so fierce!

[@rogerdeanmassie3314]

Here’s my Luke warm tea on Season Seven All Stars All Winners. It was the best variety show I’ve ever seen and I grew up watching the old variety shows. I believe the entire premise was scripted to the point that while Yvie is saying production pulled really harsh critiques it was a very watchable season of Drag Race. Other than the usual and really locked tight NDA the girls have to sign I cannot for a second believe they were totally locked inside their hotel rooms between tapings. 2. I doubt seriously they were put on ice when the cameras weren’t on. No Way. There wouldn’t have been that much cooperation between the queens and the cattiness would have been as bad as a room of Gia Gunn’s and Kandy Muse’s. The entire cast was great! 3. Hustled to get their runway looks together like has been told by other queens. No friggin way that any of those looks could have been whipped up even by a professional designer in a matter of a couple or three weeks to be properly packed and transported to the werkroom AND, no way, no how those queens would have ever fit all those clothes, wigs, street clothes and accessories in five checked cases. 4. A queen says an episode is rehearsed and shot in 2-3 days if they need more dance rehearsal etc. the outtakes from Snatch Game were likely funnier and better than made it to air. Everything was way too slick, way too clean, if they weren’t in production 5 days per episode especially during the two song and dance shows, , Snatch Game, Fairy Tale Justice, Santa’s School For Girls and two sewing challenges which Jinkx is weak in I’ll eat Monet’s kitty cat. Production made the choices they were tasked to do. Make great tv which they did. Jinkx and Raja were the best winners in each competition. But believe me, not a single one of those queens left a loser. At the end of every single episode the AFL-CIO Television Workers seal was shown so those queens were very well compensated being SAG-AFTRA members or WGA members or not. Every one are very talented in every aspect of their careers. A little riggery, ya bet but that’s what good tv is all about. A sucker is born every minute. P. T. Barnum

[@dret211]

I haven't seen nothing about global all stars but for that season im 100% the US girl would be one of the best in the show because they wsnt to make people think that drag in the US is the bedt in the world

[@DavidHernandez-rz7qo]

Jynx Monsoon is actually black and nobody’s can tell because she’s really good and hiding it.

[@Coltoid]

On Canada Vs The World production very clearly wanted Icesis to win, it was clear to her on the show, and that’s why she dropped out, she couldn’t handle the pressure.

[@Brandoncye]

Ma'am kudos for filming, for posting.

[@Hiiiiiiiiieeee]

I think your forgetting about Ben on All-Stars season three. If that season was made for Trixie to win, she certainly wasn’t going to unless Ben self eliminated. I think it was one of the few times Ru and the producers were actually gagged by something that happened because it was not something they orchestrated. And I truly believe Ru wanted to give Ben the crown. Edit-Never mind, we agree. 😅😂

[@devonfarrington7431]

Hey, speaking of content creators getting ideas from viewers, I would give my left kneecap to see a riggory of dragula season x.

[@remconet]

22:30 if All Stars 7 was set up for Jinkx, then why did they do a lipsync for the win? Doesn't make sense.

[@toddk9219]

Jinkx didn’t need it to be set up for her to win

[@henriquefernandes3510]

I just don't get why they would want Jinkx to win absolutely and have the lipsync song be Swish swish??? Like if it was all old Broadway, why not give something similar for the finale? Or just not Swish swish...

[@pamelajacosqui]

Curious about the spoilers as somebody who doesn’t read them - does anybody collect them and review them after the season to see how accurate people actually were?

[@ElinorMahoney]

I think the idea of having a secured final spot in a Queen’s contract wouldn’t work, because imagine if a Queen got this in their contract and then they proceeded to completely bomb the season? Like imagine they make a LaLa Ri garment in the design challenges and a terrible performance in acting challenges, production would then have to find a way to give them a win to somehow keep fans calm. It would just be too messy overall.

[@reichan2590]

Yayyyy for part 2! I love your content ❤

[@crystaldragon15]

I stopped looking at spoilers for two reasons: 1. The real spoilers were ruining my enjoyment of the show. (Although it did in some ways help me start spotting the riggory!) 2. Fake spoilers got me! I saw a spoiler video for uk3 saying Veronica Green made it to top 4/the final (she was one of my faves of UK2, and I was pleased she was returning). I was so disappointed when she went home third, after thinking my fave was going all the way!

[@seulgi.bear2]

In my opinion all stars 7 was a great season with a great cast held back by terrible production choices and terribly obvious favoritism. I do believe Jinkx deserved to win, but if they were going to crown her why do a lipsync for the crown when every other queen in the top 4 could outperform her (except maybe Trinity) 😭

[@joelmuller5633]

☕️ They want Rolaskatox on the next al winners Season ☕️

[@JinMeowsoon]

Regarding the VS the Crown: with a panel of 3 we can’t draw conclusions for the international competitions as a whole. Brook said Rajah is a Canadian winners and they would have crowned anyone outside of Canada, they didn’t really care. IMO it comes from the fact Crave is a smaller company so they already don’t have a big reach, they can always invite queens from other franchises. That being said, it does seem to be a legitimate production decision for the BBC. I heard from brits they’re accustomed to the BBC pulling the “rule Brittania” card and they would have been surprised if they did not. It’s a well oiled machine, they can invite the poster queens for any other shows from the BBC even if it has nothing to do with RPDR. That’s exactly what France TV has been doing: a few weeks ago I was watching the Eurovision and Nicky was commenting. Last week they started the Olympics flame relay: Nicky in drag holding the flame. Commuting to work: Nicky on huge posters in the subway etc etc And to get back to Marina / Tia, now in retrospect it does looks like the BBC and WOW had an unspoken arrangement and it was a calculated move from WOW’s part to get Marina on a bigger stage. I’m not getting the impression WOW put that much value in VSTW, like it’s not “canon”. I still stand by my opinion that the UKVSTW2 edit was so bad it threw oil on the fire though.

[@crispycol4904]

I know you don't watch too many of the international seasons. But I am convinced that the Vivaldi drama was the cause of Holland being cancelled, especially after it caused Keta's elimination and that Vivaldi and the Countess were both helping Fred. However on a recent podcast Envy Peru suggested she wanted to host season 3 together with Nikkietutorials, that she already has a list of queens she wants to have competing and that it would be amazing. I hope that this concept will one day come to reality.

[@anavictorianormie]

The thing about All Stars being made for X to win, there are some favorites - yes, but take as an example All Stars 5: if they planned to make a season for Shea to win, why would she have more bottoms than wins? When people argue about Alaska, I can even agree, because she had the most wins and only one bottom, so it makes sense. But giving the queens 3 opportunities to send the favorite to the crown home? Doesn't add up to me.

[@ickbrr2982]

Finally living up to your name, meanwhile I'm living for this kind of content

[@CristianLL]

All stars 3 was not meant for Trixie. Do you forget Shangela and Bendela

[@Cat_Woods]

If they just wanted Jinkx to win AS7, they could have just let the badges determine the winner instead of having lip syncs to win. They didn't have to give Monet and Shea 3 badges for one win. They could have given Jinkx a song they knew she would clean up on. I think any of those things would have been better, because Jinkx did win the season even if she didn't win the lip sync.

[@kunichiwax3]

I really believe that Monet threw that lipsync. She didn’t even try.

[@c.k.8585]

I don't get how anyone can think that production had planned for a double crowning for AS4. If they did then they would have been prepared to film that option.

[@emmadekemp1759]

Is the gigi goode situation about the finale?

[@My-hat]

They don’t need to pay for someone to flunk a lip sync (too risky) they just EDIT !

[@LucyLu_meztli]

5:11 Wait wait wait, AS3 was made for Trixie?! That was a f* miracle with a series of un/fortunate events 🤭😅🤣🙏 Ah, of course this was a joke, lol 😅