Some Markham homeowners paying double due to hidden property taxes

Three families in the same Markham neighborhood said they can barely keep up with property tax payments after learning of a hidden tax that doubled their bills.

[@roncook785]

And people are wondering why folks are leaving the state of Illinois. Now you can see why.

[@aheimdahl5201]

Illinois is a sinking Ship. Glad I got out of there in 2003 (was born in Harvey and lived in Park Forest, 50 years ago) . Both Political parties are to blame - Graft, Greed, Corruption and that Patronage stuff just costs so much more than just being above board. What's happening in Markham is just a tiny Snapshot of what is happening....the problems are far and wide not just in Cook Country (although they are the worst) but all over the State.

[@hermanrogers1325]

Ron Cook okay it is a scam to take back the property for the mega rich for resale pennies on the dollar and rent or resale for big dollars

[@tiffanycurtis4794]

People who can afford to leave and rich people are leaving democrats crime infested high tax horrible schools for red states

[@derrekmitchell1012]

How in the hell can the gov not fix this? It shouldn't matter how many pins it has. It should be taxed on what it's worth! And honestly it shouldn't be taxed at all but that's another discussion

[@neon_one_neo3317]

Because they're the fucking mafia

[@hermanrogers1325]

Derrek Mitchell the gov is part of the same scam he may be getting payed to let it all happen

[@ericbrown8915]

The problem is that the tax isn’t based on value of the property but an easement assessed to each property to shift taxes off the richer property owners.

[@r.d.9399]

Government created the problem

[@ajax7ox729]

The government don't care

[@bluesman97]

People everywhere in this country are going broke and losing they're homes due to property taxes. Texas is charging me more than what I make on my Social Security.. leaving me with nothing to pay bills with and eat. IT'S OUT OF CONTROL. I'm staring homelessness in the face as a senior.

[@NoName-tx5gn]

Schaumburg we paid $18K. Now we are in Texas for 5K

[@JimBeshears]

Please don't screw up that state too.

[@jondoes7836]

Unfortunately the liberal democrat cancer is spreading in Texas.

[@sunnysmiles8211]

Chicago area taxes have been out of control for years!!!

[@hermanrogers1325]

Sunny Smiles that’s chic a go For you those cities are way too expensive

[@turboredcart]

It might have improved by now.

[@sloppyjonuts9162]

How about all of us home owners get together & not pay property taxes? I mean it’s our home why should we rent it out to our selves?

[@bennyrodriguez8788]

How are you going to pay for cops, schools etc

[@vilecrocodile9171]

@@bennyrodriguez8788 sales tax

[@jasongrooming36]

@@bennyrodriguez8788 take it from the many other taxes paid around every corner.

[@duckling4393]

@@bennyrodriguez8788 no need for cops, safer without them...schools should be paid for by parents with kids like college.

[@rspcoach619]

Just because there are two parcel numbers doesn't mean taxes multiplies by 2. One parcel has a house on it while the other does not. It should be evaluated as such without a house, a vacant lot and should be valued much lower.

[@jasongrooming36]

Of course it happens to go to the most expensive option.

[@jondoes7836]

No such thing as owning property. We just rent it from the government

[@johndennison2080]

They want to blame the title company’s ? How about the overtaxing the people

[@WEIXELTOWN]

I pay $1,640 a year...I find that too expensive.

[@lunafringe10]

since the land was stolen anyways hehe. True though. Just like oil and gas, it comes from overseas, but govt levys tax on it. without lifting a finger,

[@mariejones3913]

i pay $8,500 going up 2% !!!

[@nixboox]

This is highly specious because if the house is NOT on one side of the property line then they cannot tax it as if it existed on that side of the property line.

[@hurricanefreak101]

In California we have Mello Roos it’s law that they must disclose everything before you buy a home and discuss how much it will be for your purchase price - new developments it’s high 12,000 a year in a 600000 neighborhood

[@khawmtiti4460]

That's incorrect. In California you only have Melrose place

[@wilberslater9967]

Lol, the government guy saying to blame the title company. Maybe don't have a crooked government charging twice for the same piece of land. Also, $5500 for a $200k house is ridiculous.

[@1PrinceJay]

Where I'm at in Southfield, MI (outside of Detroit) our property taxes are out of control in the summer time and in my subdivision where homes are now at $250k-$360k (regular ranch and colonial homes that was built in the late 50s and early 1990s) and the property taxes in the summer can range from $3000-$6100 and in the winter it ranges from $700-$2000.

[@richardwilson9085]

Sad as hell

[@Maui_Gyrl_]

Everything in this state is sad

[@skyserf]

0:40 Mario looks like he’s on his way to the prom. Good for him speaking on behalf of these homeowners though.

[@stepheneggert7388]

I left chicago..for that..my taxs went up 300% i was done with chicago..moved to fl. Live comfe..now my taxs are 600 per yr..not 21.000 thou..a yr.. I didnt a 10.000 a yr raise..chicago is out of control..as is il..as well. Good luck .

[@Madskillsuniversity]

This was FIVE YEAR AGO!!!! OMG! What are the taxes in 2023, with the drastic increases. I grew up in Harvey and hung out in Markham a lot, and knew many people who live there back in the day. No wonder people are leaving. Al lot of these towns that we all LOVED growing up, WILL become ghostly towns by 2030 and beyond..... (Dixmoor, Robins, Harvey, Phoenix,, Markham, etc)

[@lewisstretch]

Two PINs does not and should not mean double the tax on the tax bill. One PIN is improved and the other is not; meaning one PIN has the home on it and the other is a vacant lot. The improved parcel would and should have a higher tax bill than the unimproved parcel. Dispute the tax bill for the unimproved parcel as that tax bill should be, in this case, greater than 50% less than the improved parcel because it is vacant land.

[@lj197847]

Pension Reform

[@volcanobro8443]

This is the way

[@andyperkins7014]

My taxes are about 1200 a year in FLINT that's crazy they get double taxes! I don't understand the reasoning.

[@JimBeshears]

We get a lot of people coming over the boarder to Indiana. I can't figure out why someone would live there when they can come to Indiana and pay less than half their taxes, and not be involved in the financial bomb that will explode and take the state taxpayers wih them.

[@ralphbernhard1757]

WTF? I live in Spain, my house is slightly smaller but I pay only 670 Euros. LMAO, why is anybody putting up with this?

[@2cents186]

670 a year? What’s the average earnings there.

[@ralphbernhard1757]

@@2cents186 Lower than the USA but some expenses are already covered by taxes, health insurance for example. My average was 50,000 Euros before I decided to go into voluntary early retirement with 40. I can't speak for others, and have no idea, but it's probably lower than the US. I'm happy though, because I stopped working for others, and the low yearly costs make it far easier to take the decision to stop working. Now I earn around 15,000-16,000 a year, but only work around 10 hours a week (self employed). When I heard that this is what some people in the US pay in taxes for their townhouses I spilled my coffee....lol

[@pawelwisniewski6849]

Aren’t the property taxes calculated on value of the property not how many pins do they have ?

[@goldgeologist5320]

Just crazy! I feel for those people! Those taxes are insane given the value of the house.

[@turboredcart]

Worth had changed their tax. An empty lot is now taxed as tho there is a house on it. This cause folks with double lots to sell. You would think this would be easy to fix. 1 house = 1 tax. Have they shored up the pensions yet?

[@hermanrogers1325]

I payed my house off last year in September 19 and then turn my papers in to the state and now no more property taxes also they do the same for 100% disable veterans.

[@2cents186]

What do you mean no more property tax? Isn’t that for life until your no longer home owner?

[@DuyNuge412]

Have to be careful when buying new construction

[@1PrinceJay]

Amen! Say it loud for those in the back!

[@ty.Tibor123]

And that's Markham. Not the beat neighood

[@woodstocknun]

11 grand a year for something you already own, and US call Europe "socialist".

[@michaelvandermarliere7820]

Listen, just pack up and leave! It's not your mistake. This happened to my mother's condo went what's known in 2008 as "upside down" so the solution, you "walk." Find another place to live, they are out there. Leave them to deal with their own mess!

[@ShakespeareCafe]

$12000 a year is a rich man’$ tax bill Not for Joe Public

[@lunafringe10]

renting homes is much better. Home ownership is a financial trap. Even if you paid cash for it.

[@hermanrogers1325]

Juju Rellama it depends on where you are going to buy a home in Alabama there is no property taxes when you hit your full retirement date

[@arlenebrooks9574]

They do this across America. We always gonna go through this believe me they at the end of the row.

[@potato2941]

keep voting democrat!

[@flukeman022]

Serious or sarcasm? I just checked illinoi voted democrat in 2016.

[@potato2941]

@@flukeman022 sarcasm, IL has been a solid blue state for like 30 years. Rauner was a fluke.

[@flukeman022]

@@potato2941 fluke like me, lol. But on the serious side i never been to America always wanted visit their NY, Cali etc heard cali is dangerous shithole because the dems ran for decades.

[@DarthAzrel]

"Crook" county strikes again.....

[@papiparsons9045]

Sounds like the county tax office needs to fix this double taxation problem! Why should such a thing even exist?!

[@ricardocenteno375]

If it has an extra lot attached it has another pin but a lot don’t pay that much for tax

[@underground9260]

Downstate Illinois is high, but the Chicago area is ridiculous!

[@khawmtiti4460]

What is a pin

[@nixaddressnmtoo]

Isn't this just a clerical error when all is said and done?? How can anyone be forced to pay or loose their home over a clerical error?

[@hermanrogers1325]

Film flam I was hit by a scam by my city and state how do they escape

[@diamond6256]

CRIMINAL. The Docs are incorrect due to title error. I would be selling now!

[@johnrossman6679]

It is 2023 and property taxes are still out of control it seems.

[@stevepettersen3283]

Sounds like the developer screwed up, 0:50.

[@cattigereyes1]

Legal theft or tax bill false hoods!

[@penrodautorepair3170]

This is taxation with representation

[@francishuard5533]

Perspective is two lots one house double the taxes rate on one house.

[@tracygaluszynski1868]

Why not fixed immediately?

[@smith7388]

Yes this is the title company fault and real estate attorney

[@mcbowler]

This is dumb on so many levels. I would flip out if I had to deal with that. Taxes are theft... pin or 2 pins.

[@shontaviawade5559]

Cook County is CROOKS. Cook County need to combine the lot size combining the PIN. They can fix this but what's they want to make it complicated to get more money.

[@damhammergoshdammer1464]

How is it even legal??

[@peppertalks6948]

Illinois is weird

[@Leyenda1]

1) The tax should not be on an "assessed value" but at the price you paid for it. 2) If the bank owns the house vise vi a mortgage how come they aren't liable for the taxes? 3) You deserve the government you keep voting in.

[@PeterCichoszewski]

It looks like we no longer own homes that we own.. more like lease on a few % interest rate.

[@dji1724]

Home owners tax is a scam ,

[@arlenebrooks9574]

You’re not gonna avoid it believe me

[@AchievementsdaReturn]

Sounds like title insurance fraud or just negligence. Some these people in real estate are really dumb but title insurance should cover the ones that were not disclosed

[@HCJServices]

Why do all the victims look the same doesn’t seem like a coincidence to me.

[@JUDALATION]

SELL SELLL SELLL... GET THE HELL OUT OF CHICAGO...

[@supernova7819]

I'm sure I'm a victim

[@edwarda2033]

Wait what? This is awful.

[@Bigmike6197]

Merica!!!

[@fxxk3664]

Well, here in the year 2021 the bucks need to come from some poor saps..

[@arlenebrooks9574]

And when you buy it, you only buy a house you do not own the land believe that

[@hermanrogers1325]

For all the people who are paying mortgage, there is a thing called home stead exemptions

[@tracygaluszynski1868]

Only a $400-$1K discount depending on your tax bill.

[@Johnebegood]

Keep voting these democrats in

[@hermanrogers1325]

Flim flam tax man

[@arlenebrooks9574]

They only do this in black neighborhood. Please stop buying property in certain areas. Malcolm Illinois is one Malcolm Illinois.

[@oaktree1290]

I pay $125.00 dollars a year. 🙂

[@waterotter3625]

On what? A tent on Skid Row?

[@oaktree1290]

@@waterotter3625 No. I don't live in the city limits I'm out in the county. And it's a republican state that doesn't try to steal every penny you have.

[@dontsuspendionlyspokemymin5384]

if you keep voting democrat it will never change

[@arlenebrooks9574]

All in Black areas, please show me somebody in white ears that go through really wake up

[@kevindockery5182]

Fraud

[@a.m.7910]

What’s funny is that 12K is a Normal amount for Long Island NY

[@arlenebrooks9574]

Always black areas😢 so sad

[@ItsTimePictures]

Vote more democrats for insane tax rates.

[@ajax7ox729]

Get a job

[@JonesJones-np2kq]

Have you noticed they’re all black

[@M.J.Lyman1776]

Fake

[@lunafringe10]

i m getting taxed n my apartment to the tune of 46 dollars a year, and thats it.

[@cliffordlebel2977]

Juju Rellama Democratic states are the problem not home ownership. Taxes equaling ones mortgage payments should never exist. I live in TN paid 160k for my house and my taxes are $700 a year! No state income tax either, schools are great and the roads are pretty good as well. What do these democratic states do with all this tax money? It’s theft!

[@exoticcats6119]

Car Ninja I looked at a party map and most of it is red besides Chicago

[@M.J.Lyman1776]

Low IQ