Some seniors shut out of full Social Security benefits

[@helendayle6502]

I wish the Powers That Be would stop treating Social Security like they're giving us an allowance. WE, THE TAXPAYERS paid into this system!!!

[@nunyuhbusiness9016]

Social security, Medicaid, Medicare, and any other entitlement should be eliminated and replaced with a UBI that adjusts for inflation.

[@justSTUMBLEDupon]

And they the government dipped into it and spent it.

[@evansusmc]

@@justSTUMBLEDuponwhat did they spend it on?

[@jeeperjeff70]

Well did you catch the fact that she DID NOT PAY INTO THIS. Her government pension means that she did not contribute 6.2% of her gross salary into Social Security. And now after the fact, she wants Social Security.

[@os2958]

@@jeeperjeff70 she wants to draw survivor benefits based on her husbands social security. that makes sense everyone else gets that even if they didnt pay in

[@TeresaMicheals]

It’s really frustrating that some seniors are shut out of full Social Security benefits. After working for decades, they deserve the full amount they’re entitled to.

[@SergioRomano-nj8eb]

I know, right? A lot of it comes down to confusing rules or outdated regulations. For instance, the Windfall Elimination Provision and Government Pension Offset have caused issues for people who worked in both the public and private sectors.

[@ArianaFelicia-cw7oq]

Exactly. Plus, if you don’t plan properly, you might miss out on certain strategies, like spousal or survivor benefits. It’s such a complex system that many seniors don’t even know they’re leaving money on the table.

[@RomanFranklin-lr3ri]

That’s why I decided to work with Joseph Nick Cahill, a financial advisor. He helped me understand how to maximize Social Security benefits and navigate those tricky rules. It made a huge difference in my retirement plan

[@Adam-dm8wg]

Oh, I’ve heard about Joseph Nick Cahill! People say he’s great at explaining financial strategies, especially for retirement. His clients always talk about how much more confident they feel after working with him.

[@SergioRomano-nj8eb]

Please how can I get in contact with Joseph Nick Cahill🤲🏼

[@bcb7443]

So billionaires will be deciding that my Social Security is too much! How about them chipping in!!

[@getlost3346]

Social Security has being depleted. It wasn't well designed to start with. You can thank the Billionaires that created the industries , jobs that produced income so you could contribute to IRA 401k and SS.

[@blackknight9558]

Donald Trump is not President yet ... calm down 🤦🏿

[@BobDeGuerre]

Publicly traded companies are primarily structured to remove wealth from consumers and transfer it to upper management & shareholders by providing goods / services with the lowest labor / commodity cost possible. Each quarter companies demand more & give less, in the name of shareholder profits. Billionaires are making bank off of the millions of people earning between 10k-25k a year. Our federal minimum wage cannot keep a person housed, clothed & fed, bcz billionaires are addicted to squeezing every penny out of the businesses their familial wealth has given them. This is also the reason social security is teetering on the brink. The current cap has been kept artificially low for decades by these same billionaires that decided $7 an hour is enough 'trickle'. The 10% of US citizens that already hold the most wealth also own 85% of the stock market. That leaves the other 90% of us squabbling over the 15% of shares they're dangling before us. No thank you. I prefer not to be the reason "low income" workers are being denied breaks & raises.

[@rakeshghosh3585]

@@getlost3346😂

[@danasturgeon149]

But they have no problem with sending billions to other countries

[@real5609]

It's not welfare, you have to or should have to pay into it to receive it. And the government should repay all money stolen from it. It is insurance, not welfare

[@SewingBoxDesigns]

Can't tell the younger generations that, they've been brain washed by teachers who don't pay into it and have pensions! 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@nickiemcnichols5397]

You pay into SS you get checks when you retire. You don’t pay into it, how are you entitled?

[@user-xs8re2oy7i]

@@nickiemcnichols5397 through her husband who paid into it,in her case.

[@thehimself4056]

It’s conservative politics. Good luck. They don’t actually care about you or your life. Money matters more than

[@johnking6252]

Insurance ? Given insurances track record that doesn't give one much confidence in insurance? 🙏

[@fluxcapacitor1621]

If you don't pay into social security then you shouldn't receive social security. If you paid into a pension then that's what you get. The widow should receive survivor benefits from her husband. He paid in.

[@mimib.3591]

People who worked two and three jobs paid into social security. That is the problem. We want our money and benefits.

[@hiofecr911]

I paid into Social Security, 40 quarters, as well as my pension. That is money owed.

[@slayerized27]

@@mimib.3591 we're facing another government shut down, they're sending more money to ukraine. and you want your money? who wants their money, you and the mouse in your pocket? its over, there is no money!!!!

[@jaysonpida5379]

THAT'S WHAT SHE IS SAYING. Glad you agree she should get 'survivor's' benefits. Won't last long....not with what elon-the-oligarch and king trump are planning.

[@BirdDogey1]

You are absolutely right. But this is for people who did pay into it. The government keeps half because the recipient has a pension.

[@Luca.121]

This is infuriating. A woman who dedicated her life to teaching children should not have to go back to work at 84 years old.

[@CanaKnight]

They never paid into social security. That’s why

[@CanaKnight]

She never paid into social security

[@itsmeray01]

is she getting a Pension from the 27 years she worked as a teacher.?

[@bumper2633]

Her husband did. She has been denied widow's benefits.

[@nunyuhbusiness9016]

If she had made better financial decisions she wouldn't have to.

[@nicstevens6499]

Time to pass this bill. This law is ridiculous. I was a cop for 18 years and my dad was for 34 years We paid into pensions. And we worked other jobs that paid into SS.. .but what we earned in SS is reduced because we were cops with a pension??? WTF is that? Only asking for what I earned / paid into SS like everybody else. Shame on us for working multiple jobs and contributing to society. Cannot believe this law was ever enacted in the first place.

[@teresacastillo1783]

Impeached trump Donald

[@shamalama29]

That’s right. I was a FF for 30 years but prior to that I worked 13 years at a job that paid into SSA. And now I only get 40% of what I should be getting from SSA.

[@josephcalp1604]

@@nicstevens6499 The law was to prevent people from receiving the welfare calculation meant for low wage earners that pay into Social Security for more than 30 years. Why should you receive the same calculation for paying into Social Security for 10 or so years?

[@nicstevens6499]

@@shamalama29 That is ridiculous... Hopefully they can get this passed. My last memories of Biden can be him passing this law and not the total mess he's overseen the past 4 years...

[@paulrobilotti9294]

worked for the Feds and did the same thing you did as to other jobs, it was done back in the 80s get this to save social security, that is a joke

[@kelleyspears1218]

I’ve paid into social security for 43 years. They took my money and gave me credits to use in retirement. I also work for a government agency and will have a pension. I DESERVE EVERY PENNY FROM BOTH.

[@greatcollector9362]

You SHOULD take one OR the other not both,,,,you choose

[@bobmcgehee1749]

@@greatcollector9362 Wrong.

[@janeathome6643]

@@greatcollector9362 They paid into both (not by choice, but compulsion); you can't opt out. To not get back from both is wage theft.

[@robertpendzick9250]

@@greatcollector9362 Worked and paid into both systems, why should only one pay? Both were funded by the worker, why cheat them out of the money they had to pay?

[@josephknaak9034]

@@greatcollector9362how do you figure that?

[@rebeccajuarez2304]

This is very sad, I feel we the people work hard all of our lives and then something like this done to people.

[@teresacastillo1783]

Impeached trump Donald

[@signalfire6]

Notice they didn't say what she WAS living on; I looked it up; LA state pension for a 'top earner' which is what a principal would be is $4500 a month. My SS is only $1100 a month - she can't live on that and 'HAS TO' work at a stand up job working as a cashier? With her education and experience? There's no sit down jobs she could apply for? As usual, CBS telling only half the story.

[@216Numbskull]

One of the main reasons this BS is happening now today is bcuz they're running out of SS funds to payout. These greedy ignorant govt officials have been on the take for years. And now it's come to the point where the only thing left in the vault is a handwritten piece of paper with 3 letters on it stating, "IOU." If you notice recently the same BS is going on with FEMA funds that have apparently disappeared somehow that nobody has a clue where they went in order to take care of our own citizens in this country who are in need of help. It's crazy how the govt always has enough money to shell out to other countries around the world. Yet, it seems when it comes to taking care of their own U.S. citizens there's no more money to give. Please help me out here, how is that? Cuz I'm completely baffled anymore with all of this BS! IDK all the answers, but I do know something's got to give & soon or there's gonna be hell to pay for some of these narcissistic, greedy dipshlts who are blatantly stealing our own money. Just saying... Let's keep it a buck ya dig? 🤔 +++Peace Funk & Rock n' Roll 4 Your Soul My Friends+++ 🤘😜🤘

[@prognosis2019]

CBS isn't telling the full story. The windfall elimination provision simply counts high income against the individual. You have to have a relatively high average annual income that you didn't pay social security taxes on for the windfall elimination provision to affect you.

[@emilystevens6335]

@@signalfire6 And there you have it. Those of us working in the private sector get SS payments so small we can barely eat, while those govt workers get HUGE pensions.

[@do9138]

I am a 68-year-old community college professor who has had four heart attacks and breast cancer. I worked in the private sector for over 20 years before attending grad school so I could teach. Because I worked in SS for over 20 years, I'm fully vested in SS. I can't afford to retire because my SS payments will be cut by almost $600 a month because instead of spending my life making a fortune lying to people as a marketing exec, I chose to work with students and help young people and families work toward a better life. If I ever have a stroke or lose my cognitives so I can't teach, I will be homeless. We reward greed and punish people for helping others in this country

[@John_Doe3]

Not mentioning that the rich paying their fair share in taxes would help fund social security is concerning. . .

[@GreggWalken-xd3qv]

Is that you brandon?

[@redlobster4841]

The rich pay more than 60% of taxes taken in by gov..

[@John_Doe3]

@GreggWalken-xd3qv Hilarious. You forgot *insert awkward elon musk laugh* at the end. You guys really need to stop using the same tired joke. It's like you guys collectively use one brain.

[@BrandonSmith-qx8jx]

The rich pay 97% of taxation lmfao

[@WayneGreen-r6z]

Ok, let's tax the rich at 100%...THAT will cure the problem, right? How many jobs have YOU created, Mr. Nobody? What would be the incentive to start businesses when those people would be taxed to DEATH? Oh, but THAT'S ok. You liberal empty-heads need to go move to a socialist country. It's the fault of the GOVERMENT, when they use our tax dollars for frivolous programs, instead of putting the funds where they will do the most good. Wise up.

[@christophertsiliacos8958]

I've PAID into Social Security for 10 years; and I have my 40 qualified quarters. Yet, because of the Windfall Elimination Provision and Government Pension Offset, Social Security told me that my offset is 100 per cent! Even at age 70! I'm not getting so much as one cent from the money I paid into the system! I played by the rules. I paid my social security taxes. And how am I rewarded? With for a slap in the face, a punch in the gut, and a swift kick in the you-know-what!

[@chuckxu5910]

I’m in the same case like you retired from the state government and drawing pension benefits from California, I paid into social security before working for the state and after retirement from the state. My employer exempt from participating into social security, but I have over 10 years of private sector employment and received statements from social security after 62 years old I’ll get $450 per month that’s 6 more years away. But I’ll wait and see if social security will pay me that little money. Either way if social security denied paying me because of my 6K per month after taxes state pension, really not a big deal they can keep their money

[@christophertsiliacos8958]

@@chuckxu5910 Welcome to the club. At least you're getting something. I'm getting nothing after paying 10 years into that government-controlled Ponzi scheme called Social Security.

[@annacfd28]

Me too I worked in the public sector and private sector and contributed into both systems and earned my Social security income yet get penalized because I get a pension. It's taxation without representation

[@troutfisher7182]

That's horrible, I'm sorry you're going through that

[@annacfd28]

@@WayneGreen-r6z , everyone should get back what everyone else gets who contributed the same amount

[@debbiem6406]

A friend of mine retired from her longtime job with LAUnified Schools, and throughout the years knew that she’d receive a pension and not full social security. I’m surprised that the principal wasn’t aware of that.

[@paulrobilotti9294]

A lot of people are not aware of it

[@WayneGreen-r6z]

B O O M.

[@fremontpathfinder8463]

I also work for LAUSD but worked in another field covered by SS before then for about 17 years and will be docked Social Security by about 700 dollars less a month than I should get. The issue is really important in red states with no unions and lower pay and lower pensions, especially for mid career changers.

[@signalfire6]

The same reason LA has a horrible reputation for their educational levels.

[@sagatuppercut2960]

She probably was. But I don't think it's fair that she didn't get benefits after her husband died---like every other married couple.

[@SerakClaw]

George Carlin warned us about this in 2008.

[@j.w.r3730]

And he was a conservative!😊

[@KingJRZJ]

I had a high school teacher warn my class about this in the late 90s. He said by the time we get old enough for ss it would be gone. Don't know if he realized his generation would feel the effects first.

[@Lopster-c3k]

​@@j.w.r3730He was anti party. He doesn't need to wear a red. Or blue paper hat.

[@kimwalter8753]

He sure did. The American public and American citizens are being eaten alive and systematically controlled demolished. And including children and youth. It's heartbreaking and heart shattering. It's just beyond comprehension and collossasolly monumentally enormously unjustifiable. GOD help us all, Christ Yeshua help us all. 😢

[@theeTJ]

This is odd that she didn’t know this and that others don’t. I worked as a state public servant for a few years and I was fully aware I was paying into a pension and they were not deducting social security. Which is why I did not want to make it a long term thing. When I went back to corporate, I let them take out the required taxes and rolled over my pension to my current 401k. State education jobs are great when you look at the job security and holiday/summer time off but is it worth it though?

[@michaelmorris9546]

She was cheated out of the widow's benefit from her husband's social security that he paid into all his working life.

[@AAWGASHTADS]

She knew it . She's taking her shot and we are supposed to give her the $ . How much is her 33 year pension ?? They left that out . THAT is the reason she doesn't have a right to his SS

[@-Stop-it]

I’m not sure “let them take out the required taxes” is the proper phrasing. They are required to take it, you are required to pay it.

[@theeTJ]

@ The reason I said it like that is because it depends on what type of account you’re rolling over to. If it had been a 401k-to-401k rollover, I would not have had the tax deduction at that time. The entire qualifying amount would have rolled over. Because I was rolling funds over from a pension to a 401k account, is the reason why the taxes were deducted at that moment.

[@theeTJ]

@@michaelmorris9546 Yea that’s the odd part - like I wonder if because she didn’t pay into SS, they’re using this “loophole” to use her widow’s benefits to “pay” her portion into SS. Either way it’s very messed up! 😩

[@TimothyPerron-l1b]

Pay these people what they earned

[@matthewm9261]

Even if they never paid into social security?

[@TimothyPerron-l1b]

@@matthewm9261 Absolutely not...

[@cynicalmonk870]

She wants her husband he’s dead. She shouldn’t get it. That’s the problem Social Security it should be for the person only not your spouse. That’s dead.

[@DougAlesUSA]

If they pay her what she earned, she gets nothing. That is the point. She did not pay in because she was part of an alternative program which she does get. She gets a state pension. Why should I, a person who paid into Social Security, pay for this person who did not?

[@fahs]

My teacher retirements are completely free of social security. However, I worked a lot of part time jobs over the years. Even having a second full time job for a little over a year, and I definitely paid into SS on those jobs. So should I at least get that money back?

[@lg-ii6pm]

The “windfall provision” calculates how much ss you get if you have a government pension + ss work. It can be a lot less than someone who made the same total amount of ss wages because the govt gives low wage workers a boost so they can survive. Like if you made $5k for 10 years you would get less ss than a person who made the same amount but doesn’t have a state pension.

[@splitliving]

Yes, you are going to get some social security, BUT it is “offset” by your pension-read that, subtracted from. Which means -0-

[@WayneGreen-r6z]

What you get, is the average income over 40 "quarters" of employment. How much you made during that time, is also taken into consideration. Your "teacher" pension should have helped you , because you belonged to a Teacher's Union, correct? You state you worked a "second full-time job for a little over a year", do you have your pay stubs to see how much you actually paid into S.S.? I guarantee, it wasn't as much as you think.

[@sagatuppercut2960]

In my world, if you are denied Social Security at retirement age, then the answer is: YES!

[@johnh6515]

If you work a minimum of 40 quarters, under SS . Then take a job with a pension, for 15 years , you get penalties of up to $ 587 per month. That is the WEP provision, So instead of $1000 SS and $1000 pension , you lose! You end up with $323 social security and $1000 pension, and you paid into SS ! Now reverse it 15 years as a city employee, why would you get a job paying into SS, with very little return ? You can’t opt out of SS, so you lose money , vs a 20 year SS worker.

[@cosmicraysshotsintothelight]

She gets a pension. THAT should be her $2000 a month. I PAID IN for 45 years. She paid into a pension. THAT pension should be what gets corrected. WE pay into FICA. THEY pay into a pension plan. THAT plan should be sufficient and if it isn't that is what needs to be updated.

[@do9138]

I PAID INTO SS EVERY MONTH FOR OVER 20 YEARS. My "windfall" pension would be $888 a month, not $2,000. My SS would be reduced by $594 a month. Can you live on less than $1,500 a month in Las Vegas? Tell me how so I can retire.

[@cosmicraysshotsintothelight]

@@do9138 Where you are at does not change what you get. You do not get more simply because you chose to live in a high cost area. I get less than $1200 a month and then they take 30% of that back. I should be getting $2500 a month for my 40 years paid in by your logic, it should be $4000 a month.

[@cathyzetterman5828]

Why were they ‘shut out’ of the program? Isn’t this what happens when two spouses who collect and one passes? The person with the largest benefit is what continues. Rather than get people riled up, why don’t you compare the two rather than just one side of the story.

[@scloftin8861]

The issue is people who pay into the Educational Retirement plan, or something similar. Places that still have pension plans, which most people in the private sector don't any more. The laws were originally so that people who didn't have a pension plan had one through the government. If you paid into one, most of the time you did not pay into the other. Oddly enough, here I paid into both, but cashed out the pension account when I left the University ... stupid reasons, but canceled out the pension completely. Survivor benefits should be paid to the survivor regardless. People who have never paid into SS, well, if they have a pension paying out, then that needs to be taken into account ... because yes, SSI and SSD do not require that one paid into the system to benefit. It's really tangled.

[@cincygal4490]

I worked for 30 years in the public sector and receive a pension, but I have also worked a second job and have 40 quarters in paying into Social Security. Even though I have paid SS taxes on my full income, I'm only going to collect 35% of what I should be getting. That is the same as being taxed on Social Security at a higher percentage. What's fair about that?

[@CanaKnight]

How is this money stolen from you when you never contributed to social security?? You contributed to your pension through your government job and never into social security. If you lived in NY where you pay into your pension and social security then you are entitled to both without any penalty. This story is so one sided and doesn’t tell the whole story

[@os2958]

she wants widows benefits from her husbands soc sec everyone gets that even if they did not pay in

[@WayneGreen-r6z]

Incorrect. Why should ANYONE get to double-dip? If that person received a pension, that money is payable for the rest of their life. You can't have your cake, and eat it too.

[@bitty900]

Please people READ before you sign on the line!

[@remarkymarkable]

you need to learn about spousal benefits.

[@dj3114]

I get that for her, but how does that translate to her being denied her late husbands who paid into his throughout?

[@TabletAccount-fo8zm]

I knew this a long time ago, if you are in education, you pay into pension and do not get social security. If I thought I could double-dip I might have became a teacher...

[@do9138]

Would you have become a teacher if you had already paid into SS for 20 years and found out later that your payments would be reduced by $594 a month? (That amount keeps increasing. A few years ago, it was less than $300 a month.) Want to work until the day you die because your "windfall" pension of $888 a month isn't even enough to pay rent? Oh, I'm sure you don't care that that's what happened to other teachers and me. How about this -- want your kids taught by people in their 90s?

[@joer1678]

I worked in public education but still paid social security. I receive both a pension and social security. But some states don’t do it that way. I know an administrator that receives a pension from Illinois but did not pay into social security while in that state. I’m surprised when people did their taxes they weren’t aware they hadnt paid into social security

[@gobbletegook]

After my retirement from a government job, I worked for 15 years in private industry, but was still forced to pay into SS in the private sector. Well. if you are not going to give me the benefit, tell me again why the US GOVERNEMNT made me pay into it knowing full well I will not get the same benefits.

[@josephcalp1604]

You get the same benefits, WEP makes sure you don't get the same welfare calculation that low wage workers received that have paid into Social Security for 30 or more years.

[@WayneGreen-r6z]

Maybe YOU should have asked some questions.

[@greatcollector9362]

Because it is a SOCIAL program,,,,,,,,YOU contributed to good of ALL Americans like a good socialist.

[@bobmcgehee1749]

@@WayneGreen-r6z Yeah, like tell the Government they can't take money out of your check. Why don't you try that and get back to us on how that worked out.

[@lexinethompson4833]

@@josephcalp1604I worked in payroll for my state and gave each new employee a sheet that explained their SS may be less working for the state. I worked many years contributing to SS prior to working 13 years for the state. I get $587 less per month because of this provision. So in simple terms if you and I contributed the same amount over the years to SS say you get $1500 per month I only get $913. I don’t see how that if fair. Yes I knew but that doesn’t mean I agree with it.

[@donnalouden7364]

Anybody that pays into Social Security should receive it but if you didn’t pay into it then why should you get it? I’m kind of confused. My husband and I both have Social Security if he dies, I cannot collect his Social Security. I can only collect mine, the higher of the two. So I would go down to just one Social Security income a month. I would just receive mine which I paid into for the 45 years that I worked. So I don’t understand why this woman who worked as a teacher and paid into a pension which she receives but did not pay into Social Security should receive her husband Social Security, when many spouses that both paid into Social Security cannot collect their deceased spouses Social Security.

[@goldwinger5434]

So she didn't contribute to social security but she wants paid from it? How is that fair? I've been paying into it all of my working life.

[@michaelmorris9546]

Her husband paid into all his life. After he died, the widows benefit that is rightly hers (IMO) was denied because "she" didn't pay into it.

[@dariawilber2213]

I think you don't understand the issues.

[@AAWGASHTADS]

@@michaelmorris9546 Not rightly hers due to the rules she knew all along RE people on Govt pensions . How much is her 33 year pension ?? Where was that question ??

[@cathyann6835]

@@AAWGASHTADSright. Those who don’t get a government pension, just social security, paid into their pensions with our taxes. We can’t claim theirs either. That’s why they have the windfall elimination.

[@WayneGreen-r6z]

This is EXACTLY what I'm talking about. People getting S.S $$ when they haven't paid into it. It's INFURIATING. This is what depletes the funds for those who ACTUALLY DESERVE THEM.

[@BookJay35]

We pay for social security and we’re being told it’s gonna go bankrupt or it’s gonna get eliminated. We pay for health insurance and 90 percent of our damn claims get denied. We pay for house insurance and the moment you put in a claim you get Pennie’s on the thousands of dollars you’ve paid. We pay taxes on everything! Property, goods, federal, state, gas, you name it we f’en pay it! We send billions of tax payer dollars in aid to everyone in the world! Maybe it’s time to cut all of our taxes by 70 percent and letting other countries fend for themselves us Americans are fed up we’re tired of paying for pples 💩.

[@francismarion6400]

It's a slush fund account.

[@helendayle6502]

@@BookJay35 I'm tired of the government pissing away billions on worthless causes and telling us, "SOL (Sorry, Out of Luck)." That 43M U.S. funded gas station in Afghanistan in 2017 made my jaw drop!

[@prognosis2019]

Foreign aid is a small percentage of the budget, certainly nowhere near 70% of our tax dollars.

[@lizkeith1356]

IF YOU PAID IN, YOU SHOULD GET BACK.

[@sleepyreader666]

I'm puzzled that her public school principal s pension isn't enough to to keep her from needing to work as a cashier. There's a lot missing from this story.

[@jeeperjeff70]

This seems very simple…if you and your employer are not paying 6.2% of your gross salary into Social Security then you don’t get Social Security benefits. If you and your employer were not contributing, then you don’t get money from the coffer you never added to.

[@jeeperjeff70]

You don’t get both. If she revoked her pension (that includes a full work history of not contributing 6.2% to SSA), then she could get survivor benefits from her deceased husband. Clearly, her pension must be more than that. PLEASE… give me the option of not having SSA take 6.2% of my gross, and let me invest that. But she took the extra salary and now wants SSA to give her money she never paid into… she’s a thief.

[@michaelmorris9546]

@@jeeperjeff70 The whole point is....they are denying her the widow's benefit from her deceased husband.

[@AAWGASHTADS]

@@michaelmorris9546 Due to rules she knew all along . She's got a 33 year pension ( they won't tell us how much ) and she wants the SS $ too and that is NOT how it works

[@fremontpathfinder8463]

This isn't the situation for most people. Most are mid career changers who got their full 40 quarters and worked many years in SS covered field. Then when they switched, they are docked what their full SS benefits would have been,

[@rvcmathprof]

We and our employer did pay in for a lot of cases. The other cases are for the spouses who paid in and then passed away. The survivor isn’t getting the survivor benefits.

[@George-hl2xm]

I’m surprised people don’t know about this law it’s been around for a long time too me what really stinks it was supported by both parties and it doesn’t effect the private sector if you retire from Exxon you get your full pension and full social security payments how is that right 🙄

[@bobmcgehee1749]

Because the goverment took it out of your check. With a promise it would be yours when you reached retirement age.

[@suzypos4571]

We should all get our full social security!! Money went to illegals and wars!

[@WayneGreen-r6z]

The theft of our S.S. money, has been going on for years (since LBJ was in office). Government just takes what they want. Maybe we should file a class action suit against the Federal government for GRAND THEFT.

[@clarkmacgowan5114]

Imagine how your life would have been if you wouldn't have sat in a chair 24 hours a day watching fox fake news. You might not have so many people laughing at you.

[@wrenbyrd1093]

@@clarkmacgowan5114I’m laughing at how dumb you are right now. 😂 And no, I don’t support trump.

[@JorgeLopez-YoutubeChannel]

Illegals don't qualify for social security benefits. Get educated

[@humboldthammer]

SHUT UP! Borrow $35 Trillion / Blow it ALL up = what?

[@allegra9967]

she’s 84 and works prime more and more ppl over 65 are working because everything is expensive .

[@teresacastillo1783]

😇

[@HM3Corpsman]

They did say nobody wants to work these jobs. Well here you go!

[@ryanstewart1521]

Inflation is no joke, we’re all doomed if things don’t improve soon.

[@zeroturn7091]

I have a co-worker that is working past 65 for the additional benefits. I’m not taking that chance.

[@kimcwhite6509]

If you are a teacher in my state (and it sounds like her state) she didn't pay into Social Security! The State Teachers Union gives them a pension. They know this when they are a teacher. Idk about her husband's pension.

[@anncampbell5952]

They said this in for vote now under Biden. Thank Joey!

[@WayneGreen-r6z]

If her husband received a pension from his employer (I think it's safe to assume he worked for a government entity), then he DOESN'T deserve S.S. benefits. Neither one of them deserve any S.S. funds. You can't have your cake, and eat it too.

[@dj3114]

Agree on the first part, but don't know why that translates to her being denied her late husbands as spousal support. It seems she would keep her pension and no SS and get's his SS. Spousal support means the lesser check is given up for the larger one of a late spouse.

[@bobmcgehee1749]

What if she had a job withholding SS before or after her teaching job? That is what the issue is about. That's her money.

[@davidmichaels4285]

WTH no one can live off the benefits we have today especially after Democrats train wrecked our economy HAVE YOU EVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS? BIDENOMICS WHAT THE HELL HAVE THEY DONE TO US?

[@Jon.......]

These people already have/had State or other Gov't pensions, so it would have been more clear & complete had the reporter shown how much/how long these "victims" contributed to Social Security for, if at all.

[@katherinedemott298]

@@Jon....... you simply do not understand because you do not know or understand the basic facts, these people paid into social security for years.

[@MARC1-q1y]

If this is how this broken system treats its elderly can you imagine when it is our time to collect?? I'm in my 40s and I've been putting into the system for 25 years right out of high school. This is disturbing to say the least.

[@SlobArt]

WINFALL my arse. It is punitive.

[@susankeaton4804]

Brought to you by Ronald Reagan and the Republican party.

[@KD_SWAGGER]

People deserve the money they worked hard for.

[@JR-hs4lz]

I paid in my entire life. I want it when I’m ready

[@bluize567]

Senate just voted 73 in favor, 27 against..it passed 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@greatcollector9362]

Double dipping is common with Military veterans also,,,,after their Mil Carreer they take a job with the VA or the post office then collect that retirement also.

[@do9138]

I see. People who are in the military between the ages of 20 and 25 shouldn't get a pension, but people who flipped burgers when they were that age should. Right. 😂

[@Chels-fz5uq]

If you work both and pay into both you should get what you put in, period.

[@timnichols3795]

...they pay Social Security taxes at both of those jobs though, so it isn't really double dipping.

[@mariacuachon3906]

Deport Musk

[@ajlacostewm]

He paid 50 billion in taxes a year, did you? Look it up .

[@vince1638]

I worked and paid into S.S. 10 years then got my local Government job with the private pension for 27 years. Then I worked another 10 years paying into S.S. On my request for my S.S. I was penalized by almost 50% from $1700 down to $800. Why? If the Senate doesn't pass this legislation by the end of the month we will have to start all over again next year. Its B.S.

[@texjoy56]

It’s theft by our Government. The SS money belongs to we the people who has been paying into it. The government has been stealing from us, through SS and taxes. I pray that Donald Trump‘s administration will find this out, and make it right! Trump‘s been putting together a really good administration team that I hope will find all the stealing going on and make them pay us back!

[@CanaKnight]

If you worked 30yrs paying into ssa, you could get both

[@cutehumor]

call your US Senator. they have until this Friday to pass it! Senate goes on Christmas vacation after Friday!

[@laurencek.1580]

30+ years for me in public and private sector jobs and they will hit me with WEP at 50%. I heard from a retired person Ronald Regan's administration was the biggest contributor of these S.S. policies. Yet he reaped full benefits with multiple government agencies. Hypocrite.

[@DavianSinner]

You only contributed for 20 years, and they calculate what you get by your 35 top earning years (that you contributed to SS). So you have 15 years of zeros that bring your average way down. That might explain it.

My mom went through this same exact thing. My dad died years ago and she could not collect his social security because she was a teacher in Texas and on the teacher retirement system. Make it make sense.

[@signalfire6]

Tell us the rest of the story - how much is your mom's pension alone? Because that was paid for BY THE PUBLIC; those of us working in the private sector pay into the SS system out of our own pockets.

[@timnichols3795]

Here goes my effort... ...what you're not understanding is that for regular Social Security retirement beneficiaries, there is a dollar for dollar offset between the Social Security retirement benefit and the survivor's benefit. If the Social Security retirement benefit is even $1 more than the survivor's benefit, they cannot receive the survivor's benefit. For individuals like the woman described in this story, she worked for an employer that opted out of Social Security, because they have their own version of Social Security (she did not pay FICA taxes). The Government Pension Offset (GPO) simply acknowledges that her pension is her version of the Social Security retirement benefit, and it applies the same rules to her as to anybody else. In fact, GPO is more generous to her than the rules for Social Security retirement beneficiaries, because, under GPO, the survivor's benefit is only reduced by 2/3 of her pension amount (it is not a dollar for dollar offset). If she is not receiving a $2,500 survivor's benefit, it is because she is receiving a pension of at least $3,750 per month. A person with identical earnings to herself who paid Social Security taxes their entire life wouldn't qualify for the survivor's benefit, because their retirement benefit would be too high. It doesn't seem fair that she should get the benefit, but a person with the same lifetime earnings who paid Social Security taxes their entire life wouldn't get the benefit, does it?

[@jaygold4467]

This does absolutely nothing for regular Social Security recipients. Lift The Wealthy Tax Cap completely!

[@realdavidadams]

I played by the rules. I learned the rules. I now collect my Illinois SURS pension and my full social security. I just made sure I worked enough time in social security covered jobs. Too many State employees have not paid attention. This law only hurts if you want something for nothing.

[@garydorfner6695]

Here. Here..... voice of reason. (Don't expect any of the greedy seniors to listen however.)

[@candicel8290]

This is so heartbreaking. Our elderly citizens need to be treated better. 🙏🙏😢😢

[@briang7392]

So she's already getting a pension and never paid into soc security? She shouldn't get soc sec then. She has no right to it. Not the publics fault she squandered her money and never saved. Hell I wish I could go the majority of my life without paying into soc security!

[@jessicawii-p3k]

She was looking to collect social security from her husband passing away. Death benefits or widows benefits.

[@WayneGreen-r6z]

Or getting that nice pension. Not all of us had that opportunity, besides the fact that I would NEVER work for ANY government entity, knowing that I would get money from a taxpayer-funded pension. THAT is so wrong in so many ways.

[@sport07-o2l]

I owned a small business and paid the full SS amount. Like 12.4% plus my FICA. What do I get extra, surely no pension. I worked more hours than most. I had no buffer from when things went south like some have by working for someone else. I’m just joking. AllI want is what the Good Lord gives me. Nothing more, nothing less. My greatest joy is being able to bless others with my blessings. I’m happy

[@user-wd8jo3zr6h]

If you paid in you should get benefits. If you havn't paid in then you shouldn't be getting benefits. If you have another retirement plan and you paid social security taxes you should get your full benefit. Nobody should have to pay taxes on Social Security benefits.

[@SewingBoxDesigns]

Biden voted for taxing SS benefits when he was a congressman, he was very proud of it at the time. He was the major instigator of that bill. He claimed seniors were getting rich off SS. 🙄

[@WayneGreen-r6z]

Not if that job had a pension plan.

[@LaurieCoco-t8z]

GREEDY SHOULD NOT MESS WITH THE NEEDY ! SHAMEFUL

[@yflegal6503]

Those had not been paid into social security, shouldn't receive Social security. Those government retirees collect more generous pension than other federal employees.

[@paulrobilotti9294]

and you know that for sure do you.

[@WayneGreen-r6z]

@@paulrobilotti9294 Do your own damn homework, that's what the internet is for. But don't use Google, it's an arm of the Demoncratic party. So is KZbin.

[@alexi2460]

Yes, same problem for some state workers in California.

[@mariacaceres4312]

If you didn't contribute to social security, then they shouldn't receive a check. When I worked for the school system, I was told that you could contribute to social security as well. I only worked for about a year. There was more advancement in the public sector.

[@do9138]

Glad you got out of education. People interested in "advancement" and money shouldn't be in education. We don't need "greed is good" people teaching others that nothing matters other than money.

[@niftyat5018]

I’m a retired teacher of 33 years. I have worked two jobs at times and have paid into social security, but since I get a state pension I can’t get what I paid into SS. Not fair. I did the work

[@matt7iron]

Now under the new rules you get ss money correct

[@timnichols3795]

That's not correct. All WEP does is make sure you're not treated as poor by only counting the income you paid Social Security taxes on. WEP adjusts your benefit so you get the same return on your investment from Social Security that a person who had identical earnings to you, but who paid Social Security taxes their entire lives would get. The formula could be made more perfect, and it should be... but there is a good reason it is called the Windfall Elimination Provision. Without the provision, you'd be getting a much more generous return on your investment into Social Security as someone who had identical earnings to you, but who paid Social Security taxes on all of their income. That doesn't seem fair, does it?

[@dominoep]

Well once Elon Musk determines who will or won't deserve Social Security and Medicaid everything will be better. Hail God-Emperor Trump.

[@LED_74Fly]

Why isn’t the federal government raising the FICA tax, raise the retirement age and raise the social security income cap from $168,000 to $1,000,000?

[@patriciagurwitz509]

Wow how sad

[@marketads1]

Besides the fact that employees paid for their own retirement, companies also contribute. As they should. But Republicans and big businesses want to get out of paying these benefits whenever they can. Amazon, Uber, Airbnb, name any new company that makes billions and you’ll find a company that pays no benefits.

[@Fightthepower-b3l]

There Still should be a class action lawsuit against Social Security and the Government Plus Certain people in leadership. . Because these Crooks don't want people to live long enough to get these benefits 😠

[@LindaChavous-jq9tj]

Not some all. My husband paid 24 years into Social Security when he was in the army that didn’t count cost him $750 in his social security

[@scottthompson5855]

What a ridiculous spin. SS was not withheld. Enjoy your pension.

[@josephknaak9034]

She is not allowed to collect on her husband’s SS. If she stayed home or worked a regular job she would be eligible to draw 1/2 of her husband’s SS.

[@drmwpn]

@@josephknaak9034 If she stayed home or worked a regular job she wouldn't have a pension, like >90% of us don't. Maybe the news should do a story on the rest of us being shut out of the pension plans we didn't contribute to, eh?

[@timnichols3795]

@@drmwpn ...I agree. This story is one-sided. She should have interviewed these pension providers to ask them why they shouldn't be forced to pay into Social Security. It is so strange that these entities don't want to be subject to WEP or GPO, but also don't want to have to pay into Social Security.

[@frenchcreekvalley]

Why should she receive SS if she didn't pay into it?

[@subvet694]

I wish they would only give the money to the people that paid into it. It’s not my job to fund Government workers or anybody else.

[@bobmcgehee1749]

They are not giving it away to people that never paid into it. They are penalizing people who did both SS and pension payments.

[@WeedMIC]

But how much does she get from the other pension, the one she did pay into, which lowered her taxes, etc. Interesting how that little question is unasked.

[@topper1212]

Looks like a nice house she lives in. Bet it's paid off too....

[@suburbohemian]

Sheesh, that scares me that my own owed social security money will not be available when I'm finally due in the next few years.

[@WayneGreen-r6z]

BLAME THE GOVERMENT. Our monies were STOLEN from us starting with LBJ...the worst thief of all.

[@signalfire6]

It's easy enough to call SS and ask them what your benefit would look like at this point.

[@suburbohemian]

@@signalfire6 Oh I know how to log in to my SS account and see the prospective funds. It's worrying me that if there's this big backpay that there won't be much around later. I was hoping to wait til I'm 70 (just 7 years from now) to make my claim and get the most per month.

[@mitchellwilson6695]

The PERS programs during the generation that these public employees worked was ridiculously lucrative. The rest of us will be paying off this huge social debt for generations. The people that participated in these social security “opt-out” peograms do not need or deserve social security benefits.

[@melodywalls4693]

So its a "" double dip"" bill then?

[@drakonas00]

Correct, even if she worked in the private sector and paid into SS, she is only entitled to the higher benefit.

[@bobmcgehee1749]

@@drakonas00 Sorry, that's not what we signed up for. WEP/GPO are rules that were put into place after most everyone had their quarters paid. This amounts to theft.

[@timnichols3795]

@@bobmcgehee1749 ...what you're not understanding is that for regular Social Security retirement beneficiaries, there is a dollar for dollar offset between the Social Security retirement benefit and the survivor's benefit. If the Social Security retirement benefit is even $1 more than the survivor's benefit, they cannot receive the survivor's benefit. For individuals like the woman described in this story, she worked for an employer that opted out of Social Security, because they have their own version of Social Security (she did not pay FICA taxes). The Government Pension Offset (GPO) simply acknowledges that her pension is her version of the Social Security retirement benefit, and it applies the same rules to her as to anybody else. In fact, GPO is more generous to her than the rules for Social Security retirement beneficiaries, because, under GPO, the survivor's benefit is only reduced by 2/3 of her pension amount (it is not a dollar for dollar offset). If she is not receiving a $2,500 survivor's benefit, it is because she is receiving a pension of at least $3,750 per month. A person with identical earnings to herself who paid Social Security taxes their entire life wouldn't qualify for the survivor's benefit, because their retirement benefit would be too high. It doesn't seem fair that she should get the benefit, but a person with the same lifetime earnings who paid Social Security taxes their entire life wouldn't get the benefit, does it?

[@margiemarion9437]

I worked as a teacher. I paid into pension programs and social security. Why would these people get both if they only paid into one? Of course some should claim off their spouse's record for SS.

[@marvink7969]

raise the limit on the social security maximum taxable income; that would go a long way to fixing the problem.

[@nunyuhbusiness9016]

How so?

[@carolyn1003]

Stop stealin people hard earn money its sad they been stealing for years shamful give the people 😢😢their money back. Who makes up theses rules

[@lovewillwinnn]

“Do not put your trust in humans.” Psalm 146: 3,4

[@teresacastillo1783]

Trust nobody

[@chanvalentine8283]

What I hate is the forever penalty for choosing insurance at the wrong time of year when signing up for Social Security.

[@richardfuller2326]

She said she would've got $2,500 from social security! Her husband must've got $50,000 as she would've been eligiblefor half of his. I wish I could've got that! That's why they have a pension fund for working her job. Her husband should've had a retirement fund as well. And their house should've been paid off by then as well. I would've thought that she would've got servivle benefits at least, if her husband was paying into Social security.

[@SewingBoxDesigns]

Even if the house is paid off, the taxes now are like a house payment decades ago.

[@WayneGreen-r6z]

Social Security DOES NOT pay a continuing "survivor" benefit. It's a one-time payment ONLY.

[@WayneGreen-r6z]

@@SewingBoxDesigns Such is life. Owning a home has it's good, and bad, parts.

[@susankeaton4804]

As a widow you get the full amount if it's more than your own. You do not get both. If that Lady had not worked at all she would receive her husband's SS.

[@esousa486]

STOP !!! They chose to NOT PAY into FICA, ... instead pay into a PRIVATE pension !!! They have NO RIGHT to collect from a SSA FUND that they DID NOT contribute to !!!!!!!!!!!!! It is just WRONG !! Lady, ... think about ALL the folks that DIDN'T have the "Private Pension" option .... SSI was intended for those folks ....

[@travelfun911]

They did pay into Social Security, or in this case, her husband paid into Social Security, and she should receive Window Benefits. The government stole this money and now it is time to give it back. My husband worked 2 jobs; the job he paid into Social Security is what he is being penalized for because he has a pension. He paid into Social Security in his second job and deserves his social security benefit just like everyone else who paid into the system. His pension has nothing to do with the second job he worked.

[@WayneGreen-r6z]

That's called "double-dipping", and it SHOULD be illegal. NO ONE getting a pension (especially a government one), should be able to collect social security too...NO ONE. Social Security isn't meant to match a pension, you should have invested your money more wisely.

[@LovingIdaho]

so , they get their pensions and social security but they rest of us get smaller checks because of pensions . We should all get the same .

[@ARMY_LA-MIGRA]

Imagine some elderly person doing the same thing they did to the healthcare ceo because they can no longer afford to live in their home. Might as well be in prison where you get free food and shelter.

[@caroleanne8529]

I have not read all the comments, so someone else might have mentioned this. There are those of us who paid into SS while working in a private industry job and then went to work for the government. We are not entitled to the full SS benefit which we paid into because we receive a government pension. In addition, we are not eligible for survivors' benefits. This bill should be passed to give us the benefit we paid for. So typical of CBS for not telling the whole story. They make it sound like it is only survivors' benefits at stake here.

[@ellenm2873]

YET citizens don’t know that immigrants coming over and sponsoring their parents to come over and signed a contract to support them financially. YET those parents that come over qualify to get social security even though they didn’t work or pay into the system. How is that fair?! And what happened to the sponsorship agreement they signed to provide for their parents?! That is what is draining the system.

[@yufailaw2491]

Those parents do not get a penny since they did not work for 40 quarters. You mixed up with welfare.

[@getlost3346]

Keep voting Democratic Party, Retirement and Benefits for all! All... as in the whole world gets to bankrupt us.

[@ellenm2873]

@@yufailaw2491 I know parents who have received benefits even though they never worked.

[@ellenm2873]

@@getlost3346 Who says I voted for Dems it is a fallacy all CA just vote for Dems!? There are some of us who don’t and although I don’t always go necessarily by party lines, it is the best candidate I believe in will be best for the state or the nation. CA politicians have sold us out and done more harm than good. Same with the national politicians really of both parties- they are for the elite and sold us out. I know Trump is not perfect and has his flaws, but I believe he is definitely better than Biden or Harris especially think for our nation and economy. He will try to do his best bc simply he has a big ego and last term and I think he wants to go down as the best president in history. I hope he does and I like he went to work the very next day! I feel he did more already than the outgoing administration and he has a super team behind him! At least he gives us hope! Most of our family is team Biden and against us like more than any other election! Like crazy- they think we are the crazy ones- we think we were the ones with common sense! We used to agree to disagree but accepted the results, now reactions are looney! Like did you see women shaving their heads and refusing sex with their husbands?! Like what- ruin your marriage and life for an election?! Let’s get back to fixing this country and getting away from nonsense and craziness on both parties or we will destroy ourselves. We don’t need to worry about other nations, we will implode on our own! And make ourselves vulnerable by being weakened.

[@roddneyfett444]

They contributed to State Pension Programs, not Social Security. Why should they get monies from a program they were not a part of?

[@vintageradio58]

What it comes down to is that if you do not contribute to the social security system you don't get any $$$ money out of it.

[@Maria-t2x7s]

Mówienie, że USA to najbogatszy kraj …….to oszustwo, USA zakładało wszędzie „ demokrację „ rujnowało ich ekonomię , a później narzucano dolara . I dla wszystkich krajów przelicznik dolara był ta sztuczną potęga.

[@whiskeykilo2h429]

BINGO. Dump the worthless FIAT dollar.

[@boysrus61]

Social Security was never intended to be what you lived off but as a supplement to your retirement. I think more people are not taught financial wisdom and when they get old it really bites them. I have taught all my children the benefits of having other forms of income in their retirement years like IRA's, 401K's if offered, stocks and mutual funds and asset ownership. My son told me just today that his oldest son bought his first stock... Nintendo. Schools do such a disservice by not having financial education as part of the curriculum.

[@medusagorgon9]

This is absolutely criminal.

[@noahname6695]

They didn’t pay into it. They got some cushy govt pension and want social security too. But they didn’t pay into social security when working for the government

[@bobmorgan1575]

Yes you do. I was in the military with plans to retire and FICA was deducted from my pay every month. I ended up leaving before retirement, but if I had retired my retirement pay would have been reduced dollar for dollar by the amount I received from SSI. Tell me how fair THAT is.

[@noahname6695]

@ either way. You only get one. See if you paid for SSA. But you get a “free pension “. Ok free isn’t right but you didn’t break bread for it. So it’s a one Or the other thing. Sorry. I agree you oughta get more. But so should everyone.

[@angelakoehler3815]

The money that i've been paying in since I was 16 is not going to be there when i retire in 11 years. I dont feel for her at all.

[@EdDantes-v8c]

I thought state employees got the equivalent of SS...but it seems unfair to block their spousal benefits if their spouse paid in.

[@SewingBoxDesigns]

Unless they weren't married the required 10 years. 🤔

[@WayneGreen-r6z]

Ever heard of a pension? Federal AND state employees get a pension, thanks to their "union" (there should be NO union for government employees, they should have to negotiate with the people who actually pay them...We The People).

[@clarkmacgowan5114]

​@WayneGreen-r6z you're so jealous that you're not smart enough to have a state or or any government job. Your jealousy is embarrassing and dangerous.

[@cdstein67]

The story is clipped to try and say she should be getting $2500 a month from SS. No, what they are trying to say is she should be allowed to receive survivor benefits which would be half of what her spouse received, which is probably more like $1500 maybe if that! Its not totally clear the truth of the story. I think possibly at the end she is saying she would have been better of with the SS system. Unclear. News just trying to stir the pot.

[@mikemckee6583]

This is nonsense. These state pensions in which employees DO NOT contribute to Social Security usually provide VERY generous benefits to compensate for that. It’s not uncommon for them to receive pension benefits equal to their full salary, plus they receive automatic cost of living increases every year for life. I have a municipal pension, but we DID contribute to Social Security, and thus will receive SS benefits, but offsetting that is the fact that our pension pays only a portion of our highest average salary and there are NO cost of living increases, EVER. The state pension recipients are receiving very generous pension benefits, equal to what they would have received from a less lavish pension with SS benefits added, so they have nothing to complain about. They’re trying to have their cake and eat it too by receiving a higher pension benefit to compensate for having no SS benefit, but then they still want the SS benefit on top of that, even though they never paid a single penny into SS. If they wanted even more money for retirement they should have invested all of that money they got to keep, that the rest of us had to pay into SS every month. Quite frankly, they’re being greedy.

[@sunlight4169]

Most government pensions are not the "golden parachute" you think they are. If so then she would not be 84 years old and working on her feet all day as a cashier. A former public school teacher and principal, just so sad because she cannot collect survivor benefits. She should be able to collect them.

[@harsam1963]

How is it “Stolen”, you knowingly didn’t pay in. Period.

[@laural5177]

I was 39 when my husband died at 43. I lost half my household income but because I worked, I could not collect his social security. Government got to keep it. That is just wrong.

[@jaggsta]

You have wait till 60 to claim survivor benefits.

[@DebLindley-xg8gz]

​@@jaggsta There's also a yearly income limit you have to stay under if you haven't reached your FRA.

[@janellemarkulakis2150]

Once again, SSI and SSDI were left out still below the property line. The small raise that we get gets removed from link so we really don’t get anything for four years. That’s all we’ve heard about being raised above the poverty line. When is that gonna happen?

[@4dogsgaming]

If you haven't paid into social security you should not get paid from it.

[@yoyomawh4091]

AMEN

[@bobmcgehee1749]

This isn't about that. This is about paying into it, and not receving the full promised amount.

[@cincygal4490]

I paid into Social Security at a second job and have 40 quarters in but am only going to get 35% of what I should be getting.

[@bionicman1921]

Social Security said I was over paid and stopped payments for 6 months ....which lead me into bankruptcy......

[@rosiey172]

I don’t understand why this story is saying this widow’s situation is unfair. I have paid into social security all my working life, not a pension. Hopefully, it is still solvent when I retire, and I can collect a fraction of what I’ve paid into it. I do not expect payment from any pension because I didn’t pay into one. Further, if my spouse passes, I can only collect either my own or his, whichever is greater, but social security does not allow you to collect both.

[@trylenecarr8854]

Mercy...thank you very much, government.🙏

[@danieldumas7361]

Standard Operating Procedures : Welcome to Project 2025 - Where "denials" will be a common occurrence...

[@nunyuhbusiness9016]

I hope they actually implement project 2025, even though I know they won't.

[@SewingBoxDesigns]

@nunyuhbusiness9016 It's a bit like Puritan New England, or Cromwell 's dictatorship, but looking at the Biden admin, I think I could handle it. 😑

[@clarkmacgowan5114]

​@nunyuhbusiness9016 you hope that they implement it because you don't know what it says. Maybe if you had ever learned to read or perhaps if you hadn't dropped out of school in the 7th grade, you wouldn't be saying such silly childish things.

[@nunyuhbusiness9016]

@@clarkmacgowan5114 I do know what it says, and I still hope they implement it.

[@annehersey9895]

I worked for a government and I paid in to both my pension and Social Security and now retired, I collect both.

[@Grunt0007]

If she didn’t pay INTO Social Security….Why should she be allowed to Withdraw money…???? Sorry…You made your own decisions and knew the consequences for Decades

[@bluize567]

Her husband paid in, she's entitled to his SS , survivors benefits. Senate agrees 73 senators voted to repeal WEP;/gpo🎉🎉

[@cincygal4490]

A woman who was a stay-at-home mom didn't pay in. Does that mean she should be left homeless on the street when her husband dies?

[@kimberlyvarvorines4933]

She should get her husband's as a widow benefit

[@Grunt0007]

@@cincygal4490 She is trying to collect her Teachers pension AND SS from her husband. She never paid into SS. The media is NOT tell you 100% of the story. She damn well knew what the consequences were and yet she kept up with this financial decision.

[@lynnturman8157]

This is EXACTLY what's happened to me. I worked & paid in to social security for years. I became a teacher relatively late in life. But now, because I'm getting a government pension (as a retired teacher) I cannot claim the social security that I paid in to for all those years. Doesn't seem fair.