The Complete History of the New Dalek Paradigm | Some Boi Online

One of my earliest memories of Doctor Who was the introduction of the New Dalek Paradigm. Today we’ll be taking a look at the legacy of these Daleks 13 years on, and why they were ultimately sacked off from the programme…
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0:00 - 2010
20:47 - 2011 - 2012
36:40 - 2013 - 2023
56:33 - Conclusion
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[@aesthetrick2424]

Phenomenal video. I have an equally big obsession with these Daleks and will be getting that new Big Finish set

[@SomeBoiOnline]

Thanks so much! Really glad to hear there are others who enjoyed the Paradigm as much as I did.

[@adamhickey396]

This video had actually made me come to reassess and re-appreciate the Dalek Paradigm. I do wish Moffat had stuck to his guns and kept them for Smith's run and even Capaldi. The Time War Daleks get so boring after a while.

[@SomeBoiOnline]

Really glad to hear that, would've been great to see them properly utilised!

[@JeremyDuncan]

I met Nick Briggs in 2015 at a convention in Texas, and I asked him about the purpose of the Eternal Dalek in a Q&A and he gave a joke answer about it taking an eternity to get on a flight. Later he found me in the gift shop and just walked with me for a minute, and said he wanted to make sure I didn't think he blew me off. He said he wished they had been done slightly differently and given a chance, but it wasn't to be. Love the Paradigm, and I'm glad to find someone who does too.

[@SomeBoiOnline]

Wow, what an amazing story! It's always fascinating to hear little bits of information like this. Great to hear some love for the Paradigm!

[@theentity5201]

Ironically the white supreme dalek RC 12" had a very high pitched voice which is a very interesting flip the switch situation, one voice line even sounds nervous, some supreme there lol

[@SomeBoiOnline]

Yes this almost made it into the video! I've no idea how something like that slips by, completely bizarre.

[@Thenesrookie]

I really hope this video does well as I love the Doctor Who centred content. Maybe even an extended look at the Adventure games some day?

[@SomeBoiOnline]

As do I, a lot of work went into this one so glad you liked it! I really enjoyed looking back at City of the Daleks in particular, so that could be interesting to look back on further.

[@xxcoolxx2313]

I do have nostalgia Paradigms they’re my first ever daleks. I love how they took inspiration from the movie props it’s a shame they never really got used in the show. Also the part about doctor who live brought back a memory of me being scared of the monsters and ending up leaving early

[@SomeBoiOnline]

I love that the colour schemes were inspired by the movie daleks, definitely a shame we didn't see more of them!

[@SeanerCullen]

This is very well done! I was lucky enough to see both the eternal and stone daleks at the Cardiff experience just days before it was to close in 2017

[@SomeBoiOnline]

Thank you! I last saw them in July of 2017, the experience was wonderful and is sorely missed. A shame the props were in such poor condition after being kept there safely for many years.

[@SSJPENGUIN]

Hated these Daleks as they weren't cool enough for 12 year old me BUT experiencing them go up against the Cult of Scaro during ‘Doctor Who: The Experience’ was a highlight of my teens

[@xzempty_8387]

I always loved the adventure games. Honestly, I think the stories are great and fit into their respective slots in the story perfectly, and I find them really fun to play. A few years ago, I replayed them and actually still wasn't disappointed!

[@SomeBoiOnline]

They really brought new life to these Daleks more than I'd realised! Very nostalgic seeing gameplay after well over a decade.

[@SSJPENGUIN]

Moffat announcing Daleks would be resting & then dropping one in anyway was quite a good play but it did make them look tired/weak

[@SomeBoiOnline]

Yeah It's a cool scene, but definitely where they started to go downhill.

[@SSJPENGUIN]

Did not expect 2024 to be the year I respect/appreciate the paradigm Daleks but here we are!!! Cracking video; I'm totally swayed they have/had potential now!!!

[@SomeBoiOnline]

Love to hear that, thanks so much!

[@thedaleklord2836]

I included the Paradigm in my fanfic with the original 5 as the Acting Supreme Council with the Chrome Parliament as the Officers, and new redesigned paradigm Drones. After the assassination of the Dalek Prime Minister by the Children of Davros Survivors.

[@xzempty_8387]

I was just about to comment on Victory of the Doctor. I am excited for this! Hope they give them a proper conclusion or at the least a good story.

[@SomeBoiOnline]

Definitely! Literally had to amend the video with that segment as it was coincidentally just announced after I'd finished the initial edit. Very exciting indeed!

[@xzempty_8387]

@SomeBoiOnline yes I'm very happy with the news. Makes me definitely wanna check out the previous boxsets. I am planning to start them soon with Geronimo.

[@DankerTVTimeCapsule]

i do hope RTD consider using Paradigm daleks again. but since Big Finish aren't related to his leadership probably not.

[@SomeBoiOnline]

I agree that if something is used in a Big Finish audio, it's probably not going to be in the main show anytime soon. Might work out for the best though, who knows!

[@DalekDalmatian-the-prop-maker]

Okey … now this guy did his research and it was nice to see some additional scenes and bits that I myself as a NDP fan have never seen like the top gear one … but yeah it’s a massive shame what happened to these glorious designs … admittedly not with a great start but soon “fixed” in the asylum … Great vid Cameron

[@SomeBoiOnline]

Thanks so much! Tried to dig up as much obscure footage as I could, so I'm glad to see it was worth it!

[@elizabeth37902]

great video! keep up the good work :)💕

[@SomeBoiOnline]

Thank you!

[@Arlofan]

I really had a good time watching this! Been watching since the interview with Adam Kreutinger and gotta say, this channel is just really gokd, high quality content on many different topics I'm interested in (The Muppets and Doctor Who especially). Really looking forward to seeing you continue to grow in 2024! Also just a fan of the overall Britishness, as a Brit myself. "Relatable content" I guess.

[@SomeBoiOnline]

Thanks so much, really glad you're enjoying the content! I'll continue to try and be relateably British in 2024! 😅

[@Arlofan]

​@@SomeBoiOnlinehaha! Nice work

[@tokublwhovian]

I’ve always liked these Daleks - size, voices, eye stalk and colours. It’s a shame Moffat and Gatiss didn’t get to further their plans.

[@dxctr_master]

looking at ur background in envy ahdhdhshdh my dream is to own all the moffat era dalek figures they’re gorgeous

[@SomeBoiOnline]

It is lovely to see them all in 13" scale, had to get the Scientist custom made as they never officially released him!

[@dxctr_master]

@@SomeBoiOnline back when character was at its peak w figures lololll must be so annoying for collectors to be missing one if they can’t get it custom made haha

[@GeorgeTheDinoGuy]

This video is really great, I love the way you manage to capture all of our childhoods and our thoughts towards the paradigm. My opinions on the paradigm have bittered over the years, but this video has helped me discover my love for them again. Good work!

[@SomeBoiOnline]

Thank you, really glad to hear that!

[@Daniel_Rawlings]

I thought I recognised that poster at 13:48, it's the one from my video with the audio waveform on it! DW Live was a great show that cemented my love for the (then) new Daleks, even if we could see the arm lifting the Supreme from where we were sat ;) Awesome video mate!

[@SomeBoiOnline]

Apparently that was the highest quality image I could find 🙈 but thanks, glad you enjoyed it!

[@ferbusgddc]

I loved the Paradigm Daleks as a kid, mainly because I got a plushie of the red one and me and a friend spent hours sewing all of the rest of the colourful fellas!

[@SomeBoiOnline]

Aw that's amazing!

[@xzempty_8387]

Always liked this design. Very different.

[@SomeBoiOnline]

Yes, I always found it very striking. Takes the design somewhere new without losing the Dalek shape completely.

[@matthewbolitho-jones]

I like the New Dalek Paradigm

[@SomeBoiOnline]

Good taste!

[@lisabilby2006]

For anyone coming across it wondering, The music throughout most of the 2010 portion was the DSI photo/editing/gallery mode background music

[@SomeBoiOnline]

Glad somebody noticed! I used eshop music from 2011, 2012 etc. to match the years throughout the video 😊

[@vankristlabs]

This is gonna be a little strange, but given your hankering for the Paradigm, maybe it'll be entertaining idk. Years ago, I had a nightmare - used to them, get them every other day - but this one was uniquely terrifying. I was in a large house I didn't recognize somewhere in the countryside, and I was being pursued by a Time Lord - wasn't the Doctor, that's for sure. The problem was, she was a psychopath. She was more terrifying to me than almost any other thing that pursued me in bad dreams. She wanted to catch me and turn me into someone else, erasing who I was in the process. I ran and hid, room after room, and every time she found me. At one point I got out of the house and stumbled into the backyard, which had a shed of some kind, and in front of that shed was a device that I touched which caused a squad of Daleks to appear and wake up. Apparently, they had dematerialized and were waiting for someone to rematerialize them. I didn't get a bad feeling from them, even though I knew what they were. They were the bronze variety, and among them was a Paradigm - red, I believe. They didn't say anything, and immediately set to work opening the device that had rematerialized them. There was a power cable that the red Paradigm opened its rear compartment for another drone to retrieve, and a weapon emitter - same type used by the Special Weapons type - and they assisted each other assembling it. They knew I was there, but weren't saying a word or killing me because they knew they had to be silent since the Time Lord was nearby, but I could hear their casings whirring, looking back at each other's work. When the weapon was ready, the girl came out of the house just as they fired it, and the whole house went up, just a plume of plasma. The bronze holding the weapon turned to me and said "YOU ARE THE WIT-NESS OF THE DA-LEKS." The red Paradigm scanned the yard and started moving toward the destroyed house. Witness? And how was I not dead already? What had even happened? By now I woke up. Now, I'm not a Whovian, but over the years I had seen quite a bit of it, and at that point I hadn't thought about it in a while. Was a weird and yes, terrifying dream, but it stuck with me, and there was the Paradigm overseeing the weapon's operation and opening its compartment to provide the adapter. My weird dreams aside, it really is a shame that they shafted the Paradigm like this. The Eternal was always my favorite. Let's hope Big Finish gives them more parts. There are a couple stories where they're central.

[@SomeBoiOnline]

Wow, that's pretty impressive considering you hadn't seen the show in a while. There's something about the daleks remaining silent that's really creepy, what a great description!

[@vankristlabs]

Yeah, they woke up right away - not sure how long they'd been waiting in "desync" - and seemed to instantly know everything that needed to be done without verbal instruction, like they'd been planning it. I don't know if they had been after the Time Lord girl, or she'd been the one to dematerialize them - maybe that was her TARDIS? - but either way, they worked with pure purpose, their radiation valves stayed dark, and I watched the operator of the weapon swivel its dome around and drop its eyestalk to check that the weapon was in position for the adapter to be plugged in. I had no idea who these Daleks were, or that I was their "Witness," but I instinctively didn't fear them (even though in real life, if I saw them, I absolutely WOULD be beside myself with terror). I remember feeling bad for the Time Lord - even though she was nuts, and I didn't *see* her die, some part of even my dreaming self was thinking that she had to be one of the last to exist outside of Gallifrey Falls No More, and I basically just ran into the arms of the Daleks and effectively let them murder her. I remember thinking The Doctor (it was during Capaldi's run at the time) would be very disappointed in my cowardly path of trading one maniac for arguably worse ones. I would have preferred merely escaping, because her goal was tragic - she wanted to capture me, and replace my "quantum profile" with that of her deceased crush, effectively overwriting my existence. And normally, I would let this happen - what have I done for the world? Surely a Time Lord would be a better addition to the world than me. But my dreaming self was all instinct. The whole thing was surreal and affected me more than the retelling can account. But I'll never forget the Paradigm back there, sliding its rear casing open. At the time, I had never seen the concept art of how that was supposed to look, I had only heard of the idea, and later when I saw the art, it looked the same as in the dream. Either way, your excellent video made me remember all that, and your work and story about how you first saw the Paradigm when you were 9 stuck with me. I was 19 at the time when I saw Victory, and I felt the same way as you, expecting them to be actually consequential - and the score that played when they emerged is one of my personal top five most memorable pieces of media.

[@elliepira8400]

I always liked them, they were very bold and 60's inspired. Easy to tell apart, I liked that each colour was a separate role.

[@HOTD108_]

I sincerely hope the new paradigm storyline gets picked up in the actual show again at some point. It's a show about time travel, so a yet-to-be Doctor could easily encounter them years from now, and the show has picked up old storylines that had seemingly been abandoned decades prior before. There's a lot of great and unique story possibilities that I'd love to see, and that eternal Dalek is practically screaming to be used for something spectacular.

[@GrievousDu38]

I miss these Daleks and got confused when the "old" Daleks randomly came back I made my own LEGO Paradigm Daleks when I was a kid and when I watched LEGO Doctor Who Stop Motions, it was usually the Paradigm Daleks the villains

[@TheManInBlueFlames]

I definitely get why people thought the newer daleks were worse since they were bigger and more odd. I think the Asylum of the Daleks was good because it was showing the psychology of Daleks and had various different types of Dalek. The episode was not meant to be about THE Daleks, but a standout ship separate from that. I think if we look at the Stolen Earth story, the truth is shown - the Paradigm Daleks are the SUPERIOR Daleks that are worshipped in Dalek lore, like the Supreme Dalek, who is definitely a drone.

[@Battfro]

You might mention it in the video, I haven't saw it yet, but 11th Doctor Chronicles Volume 6 seem to be set to include the New Paradigm in February 2024.

[@SomeBoiOnline]

Yes that was added in last-minute at 59:40, fantastic news!

[@Stranman]

Beautifully edited and scripted. You spoke at a perfect pace too. Being a broadcaster I had to comment. Thanks.

[@SomeBoiOnline]

That's so kind of you to say, thanks so much!

[@PotatoReviews]

This was excellent, what a fantastic and extremely informative video. Nice to see some love for the Paradigms is still out there. (49:47 was comedy gold)

[@SomeBoiOnline]

Thank you so much, likewise I'm loving the fan response to these videos regarding the Paradigm! (Glad you enjoyed - my actual reaction to this was very similar) 😆

[@LloydEWatson1983]

I'm not keen on the bulkier design, but the deeper voices sounded more menacing. I wouldn't mind seeming them again.

[@SomeBoiOnline]

I do think if they'd been given actual stories following their revamped design, fans would've had more to focus on (such as the intimidating voices and potential stories) as opposed to their appearance alone.

[@neilgodwin6531]

@@SomeBoiOnline As an extra corps of Daleks, I think most people would have accepted them, like they accepted various Emperors and Supremes. I think it was the suggestion that they would replace the 50 year old design that upset people like me (older fans).

[@BH-98]

Really enjoyed the nostalgic revisit to 2010s Who. Similarly I grew up during the 10th & 11th Doctor’s era & loved the paradigm Daleks as a kid. I was let down by how after series 5 the Daleks were underused & was kinda shocked to hear that the redesign received backlash. It’s a shame that they caved into the negative reception as it ultimately hurt the Daleks more. Sure Asylum of the Daleks breaks tons of continuity, the Daleks aren’t scary & the story is terrible but hey at least the Paradigm are in it less… And even though I like into the Dalek as an episode, it’s similarities to Dalek in series 1 & not developing Rusty’s story arc past the episode only highlights how directionless they became.

[@akshaytrayner1960]

Great vid it’s a shame we never got a proper sequel

[@phillipoloidi]

I think they had potential to be better than the standard NSD Daleks

[@SomeBoiOnline]

The Paradigm are probably the definition of missed potential 😂

[@britanimations2002]

This, this is exactly why I champion Chibnal not letting fans dictate what happens in his era, he made controversial choices and ran with them instead of bowing down to the fans, and Moffat mishandling them so fucking hard is why the Daleks stories from 2012 onwards suffered, Moffat didn't have much of a plan following Victory and clearly didn't have a plan to deal with the retirement era of the Paradigms, so the stories felt disconnected and like they were being pulled from his arse

[@anomonyous]

The pandorica is probably my favourite bit of nu-who, post Tennant. Ecclestone was my favourite. But the whole centurion and the box thing never fails to get to me.

[@THEADVENTURESOFKEVINTHECARROT]

When will the video of your dalek be uploaded

[@SomeBoiOnline]

Jan 15th 😉

[@THEADVENTURESOFKEVINTHECARROT]

​@@SomeBoiOnline👍 I can't wait! 😆

[@rossimusprime1110]

There is good news there's a new big finish audio episode called victory of the doctor that includes the paradigm daleks the supreme, stratagist, drone, eternal and probably the scientist

[@SomeBoiOnline]

Yep there certainly is, mentioned at 59:41!

[@rowntreeplayz]

You know if the doleks were originally multicolored every one would complain about the bronze or grey doleks, the multicolor daleks give me a 50s space vibe and I think the reason why people don't like the bright colored daleks is because it gives a different vibe and if the paradigm doleks were released back in the classic doctor who people would probably like it a lot more because the new show is trying to be more gritty.

[@SomeBoiOnline]

They do have a great 50s/60s space aesthetic, which I feel is very apt for the Daleks!

[@rowntreeplayz]

@@SomeBoiOnline the 50s space style needs to be used more, every time someone does a space movie now a days its all ways dull and just looks like your watching NASA instead of a space adventure movie.

[@SomeBoiOnline]

That's a really great point and definitely one of the reasons the Paradigm stood out amongst other designs.

[@SSJPENGUIN]

It's not too late for an RTD written Remembrance of the Daleks style episode featuring the paradigm gang!!

[@Wanten-the-stormtrooper]

As someone who grew up in the early 2000s and 2010s, I watched the RTD stories when they aired but was only truly able to understand what was going on by the time the Paradigm was introduced in _Victory of the Daleks_ and as such I came to appreciate the Paradigm quite quickly. Though I at first disliked how the bronze Daleks were treated until I considred things from the Paradigm's point of view in universe. As such, and as I'm someone who loves narrative consitency and lore, I was pretty disappointed in how the Paradigm's story (in fact, that of the Daleks as a whole) was so atrociously mishandled. There was no explanation for how or why there was a Parliament and Prime Minister or even why the bronze Daleks were back until a sourcebook released in 2017 retrocatively filled in the huge gaps. Even the Supreme being the Dalek that taunts the Doctor in _the Time of the Doctor_ would've been wonderful to SEE instead of everyone just scratching their heads over who it could be until that sourcebook. And when Dalek stories became so inconsistent and with no narrative from the Capaldi era onwards, I was pretty displeased. So yeah, I actally wish the Paradigm were given a proper onscreen chance to prove themselves instead of being treated like this; I think that if the metalic paintjob was coupled with a story like _Dalek_ with which they could prove themselves they would've been MUCH better received. Thank you so much for this comprehensive history and for showing me how tragically these new Daleks were treated!

[@SomeBoiOnline]

That means a lot to hear, really glad you enjoyed. Completely agree, painful missed potential indeed!

[@Wanten-the-stormtrooper]

@@SomeBoiOnline Hopefully *Victory of the Doctor* will herald a renaissance for the Paradigm (once the show's writing quality improves, of course)!

[@tidmouthmilk12]

I definitely agree that the Paradigm had a bit of a poor run in the main show. I think it's unlikely that RTD or any future show runner would bring them back in any meaningful capacity. I do hope that they learn from the mistakes made by the Paradigm if/when they come to introducing a new era of dalek designs. And it's interesting you bringing up Doctor Who Live. I remember going but I didn't actually remember anything about the actual show besides the box of screens standing in for the TARDIS and Matt Smith. Might have to look and see if any footage exists from the Birmingham show as that's the one I went to.

[@SomeBoiOnline]

I don't see them ever physically returning due to the BBC auctioning off the props. I similarly couldn't remember much of Doctor Who Live, was great to look back at the old footage online!

[@akshaytrayner1960]

City of the daleks should have been an actual episode

[@zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz385]

Something I came across after watching this was the Doctor Who Worlds of Wonder exhibit website, which features photos of the Experience ship interior and the damaged Supreme Dalek. I have no idea if these were stock images used for the website or if they were integrated into the show, or if the 2024 run will include it in any capacity.

[@SomeBoiOnline]

That's a really good spot and very bizarre! Strangely enough, the damaged Supreme from the Experience hasn't been auctioned off yet. However, I'm 90% sure that's just a reused photo from the original attraction, which is a bit misleading! (Website designer probably just found the photo and thought it was close enough). You never know though, I'll have to keep an eye out!

[@JeremyDuncan]

Update: Having purchased and listened to Victory of the Doctor, I can say they were definitely done justice. My favorite of the group is the eternal for how utterly petty and nasty it is.

[@SomeBoiOnline]

Definitely, it was phenomenal stuff and the Eternal was exactly as I'd always imagined!

[@vacantspace333]

Its such a shame that they never caught on. I really liked them too. It's so upsetting that normies in the fandom managed to just ruin the whole experience like this on a whim.

[@SomeBoiOnline]

Definitely lots of wasted potential. Though I think it was more the hard-core fans that disliked them, whilst the casual audience didn't really mind.

[@hazmat7949]

49:52. After watching this whole video, that made me piss myself and feel really really sad at the same time 😂😭

[@SomeBoiOnline]

I'm glad the poor bugger got some laughs at least 😅 thanks for watching the whole video!

[@hazmat7949]

Had forgot I'd commented they deserved something anything better than just disappearing 😅 well detailed and paced on something unfairly forgotten

[@ethanroberts2658]

Honestly the 2nd version of the paradigm was the best the officer class concept was actually a good compromise to fan backlash and filming solution Also I always saw the paradigm using the bronze Daleks as just the shell to make more use of dalekanium they were still pure Daleks inside and them killing of the escaped Daleks from the crucible was more swing them not so much as in pure Daleks but not Daleks at all akin to revolution of the Daleks …or tbh the daleks contradicting there own hateful ideology is very fiting to the ridiculousness of fascism

[@anomonyous]

I liked those adventure games. Had to get my hands on them another way though, here on mainland Europe. But I liked them, they were fun.

[@Marcy53Volkswagen]

i wonder if terry nation allowed BBC to use their designs. noticing the time controller (dalek) design were similar to many designs of a standard terry nation dalek. (comics. toys. and otherwise. aswell as movies) imagine if terry nation gave BBC and steven moffat the rights. we would have fleshed out movie and comic inspired daleks with a few paradigm elements. perhaps in a future episode. they could be the new daleks that the 15th doctor (ncuti gatwa) would meet. i love the paradigm and i wish there would be an alternate universe where they were comic/movie inspired

[@thatsastick13]

I know nothing about Dr Who, but good video!

[@SomeBoiOnline]

Glad to hear you enjoyed it regardless! 😊

[@SSJPENGUIN]

The biological eye thing wasn't something I ever clocked during the episode

[@stevenstocker9873]

Well, if they didn't, just replace the bronze daleks outright and start with a new delek civil war plot line, which could spread across a series, showing off the new daleks. Maybe they would have been accepted by audiences, but saturating the colour would still be expected. They are not in the 60’s trying to sell technicolour.

[@CyberController-]

Moffat is infamously bad at writing Dalek stories, so it makes sense that his Dalek design would be underused.

[@android65mar]

I must admit I was one of the older fans who hated the paradigm daleks

[@SSJPENGUIN]

Perhaps that 11th Doctor game will be adapted with another doctor someday E.g Human Nature

[@anomonyous]

I'm sorry you had your fun ruined a bit as a kid, due to the internet. Since I grew up in the very early days of the internet, that wasn't really much of an issue. But as it stands now, my brother and I fully agree on very much controlling what the kids are allowed to see and access. It's all quite limited and controlled. Because there's so much out there that really isn't even remotely suitable or healthy.

[@CadenMcinnis-pp9td]

Personally I like all of the Dalek designs

[@robertcooper4th259]

What does the eternal do, sounds like cosmic horror

[@SomeBoiOnline]

Nobody knows, which does make it suited to that genre!

[@MrGreaves]

Have you had chance to listen to the Victory of The Doctor boxset yet? If so, what did you think to their return?

[@SomeBoiOnline]

I've listened to all but the final episode, pretty phenomenal so far. The voices are amazing and the Daleks have never been more of a threat.

[@MrGreaves]

@@SomeBoiOnline 100%. The ending of “Daleks Victorious” was insane. Definitely the most chilling that the Daleks have been for me in a long time. Glad we’ve explored the area after Asylum too as the whole “erased memory” idea was so wasted. Need something more between Victory and Asylum now though!

[@SomeBoiOnline]

Totally agree, I'd love to follow the original Paradigm straight after the events of Victory, i.e. the Dalek That Time Forgot!

[@MrGreaves]

@@SomeBoiOnline 100%. Adore the Dalek That Time Forgot! Hate to plug my own stuff, but as a Paradigm lover.. I’m making a Dr Who audio series and very much plan to explore the Paradigm between Victory and Asylum. So if you’d fancy checking that out (whenever it releases) then maybe it scratches your itch! If not, don’t worry 😂

[@stuff31]

If they hadn't coloured them like Skittles then they definitely would have been at least a little bit better received. If they were to bring them back, I think they should get shrunk down a little to be more similar in size to the normal design, reduce the shoulder and hunchback size and give them more restrained colour schemes. Then they could be more sleek and new whilst not being as clunky or resemblant of Tic Tacs. But if you did that, then what you'd have would just be the Imperial Daleks from Remembrance of the Daleks. Maybe we should just bring back those.

[@SomeBoiOnline]

What you've described there is basically the "Reborn" variant shown at 59:53, which will feature in the new Big Finish audios.

[@stuff31]

@@SomeBoiOnline I had that in the back of my mind! It's a good adaptation, I hope we might see them in the show proper sometime.

[@stuff31]

​@@SomeBoiOnlinebtw, the person being given a tour of the Dalek at 25:20 is not just a fan but specifically Charlieissocoollike, a popular early-2010s KZbinr and vlogger!

[@redgreen09]

well me i like difent colocrs looked ok to me be fun see more like em

[@00_007]

I hated these daleks as a kid, doctor who at this time to me started to go downhill, i was younger, but i didn't like the Matt Smith era, and and every time i try to get back into the show, i always just dont get along with the newer episodes. That being said, i am nostalgic for them now, i remember i got the blue dalek bath toy thing that had shampoo in it. They aren't as bad as i remember, but i still don't like that era of doctor who

[@promptedleek4829]

tbh, I never liked the paradigm daleks mostly because I think they look really ugly and out of shap for a dalek

[@ImmortalAbsol]

I don't mourn their potential. They should pull a George Lucas and edit the digital releases to have the deeper metallic colours from the beginning.

[@neilgodwin6531]

Side profile looked like a Victorian woman complete with bustle. Horrible design, purely designed for merch. That's not hate, or negativity, just an observation. The massive promotion on TV shows and in public spaces shows the desperation to shift merchandise. The reception at the Proms simply reflects the love for all Daleks, even the least liked. The essential factor of the Daleks is that they are highly mobile fighting machines. Size doesn't matter 😊. The New Paradigm looked less agile, more clunky.

[@SomeBoiOnline]

Out of curiosity, what do you make of the revised design that removed the "hunchback" aspect?

[@neilgodwin6531]

@@SomeBoiOnline Much improved, with a slight reduction in size, I would be fine with the rest, don't like the eye, but that's quibbling, in fact the additional weapons make sense, more so than the Resolution version, with globes hiding extra weapons. The globes were sensors, I read in the Terry Nation books of the 60's. Though in 'Dalek' they were self destruct devices. The public didn't like the Paradigm Daleks, so the BBC quietly retired them. Back then the BBC listened to the viewers. Pity they don't listen to other gripes, like the Davros Affair, and reverse the ratings fall.

[@SomeBoiOnline]

Interesting, perhaps if they'd been introduced like this in the first place, the backlash wouldn't have been as severe. The Davros stuff does make the Paradigm controversy feel pretty tame by comparison.