As you can see, Kirby's special pummel is a reference to Smash Melee due to how it DOESN'T FREAKIN' WORK!
@falcon_punch-g6v16 күн бұрын
*Stops playing Melee immediately
@BobzBlue18 күн бұрын
Most of these are more like a neutral throw, which is interesting. Must be hard to design without elemental...elements.
@duckified.18 күн бұрын
i assume you mean energy type attacks
@VistyMe18 күн бұрын
@@duckified.the special pummel is from rivals, a game where characters are based on elements (fire earth wind water) are baked into each characters move set. Every special pummel in that game has an elemental effects.
@BobzBlue18 күн бұрын
More the unique mechanics of the rivals characters. Being designed for stage control, each character has a status effect or an action that helps themselves, using their overarching mechanic. I can only recall Krag's special jab being one that moves on from the grab interaction.
@lunarkomet18 күн бұрын
Why would that be a problem? You can design it like a special attack, we don't have any need for elements in smash...
@raven-a18 күн бұрын
He should just use an special, like Link can explode a bomb?!? But just making it some "neutral throw" tech chase thing is just lazy, I get there's too many characters, but just adding another shit throw is just lame
@yan_dj16 күн бұрын
Duck Hunt immediately set the bar too high for everyone else in terms of Rivals-like special pummels
@ZenithLibrarian18 күн бұрын
Olimar's is neat, because it's actually a reference to something you can do in the Pikmin games. They even added the sound effect from the original games to it.
@Kniightisa18 күн бұрын
Sort of disappointed that a lot of these ended up being normal moves instead of incorporating special moves, but I also don't know how hard it is to mod that stuff haha
@Kniightisa18 күн бұрын
Like a weaker down b thunder with Pika, or something with rocket would have been sick with samus
@raven-a18 күн бұрын
Yeah, that is just lame, hopefully they are just placeholders for when he really does them
@Happymbm18 күн бұрын
Incineroar grabbing duck hunt only to launch them using his pelvic flames definitely wasn't on my 2024 bingo card
@Alphabetatralala18 күн бұрын
This is a good idea. Some character do have a really interesting special pummel, most don't, but it's actually fine because for every character there's always a few moves in their set that aren't that useful. I like this mod and the way it is implemented. (minus a few bugs)
@NaviBoii1618 күн бұрын
Kirby's special pummel probably requires that he already has a copy ability ready for him to use. Still sucks that his default one doesn't work tho.
@2lazy2type218 күн бұрын
Wait why didn't anyone else realize this?! It would be sick to see it in action!
@Lucyfers18 күн бұрын
It's a cool mod, but I feel like most of these kinda miss the point of special pummels
@lucaantinori483418 күн бұрын
The smash designs weren't made with stuff like special pummels and aerial Smash attacks in mind (why would? If it's not even a real move) One key aspect of Smash attacks is being able to charge them, which in the air it might be too risky and barely used. We got strong aerials capable of killing in edgeguards so there's no place for aerial smashes. Same with special pummels. Specials are supposed to be used on certain situations or if you are in a pinch (like when trying to recover). Special pummels are too specific for most Smash designs to rely on them
@iponce218 күн бұрын
It's a special pummel as it might appear in smash, not a special pummel as a unique mechanic that directly influences your throw game. It doesn't miss the point at all, it just makes it's own.
@NightKev18 күн бұрын
@@iponce2 Most of these are just worse than every other available option.
@lucaantinori483418 күн бұрын
@@iponce2please, look at these carefully and tell me that the development team would put them at all if THAT was how they behaved. As I said before, special pummels and aerial smashes have no place in Smash. You're right that something like Rivals or Slap City's implementations wouldn't fit in Smash, but if the alternatives are so barebones, then might as well not add anything at all. Which is probably why DLCs get all the cool stuff just for them.
@lucaantinori483418 күн бұрын
@@NightKevThat's a constant among most if not all Smash designs, but I think special pummels puts that problem at full display. They don't fit.
@greenrose769718 күн бұрын
As an Olimar main, the special pummel for him made me really happy cuz they even added the sound effect when you charge your Pikmin in Pikmin 3 or 4! I was expecting him to just f tilt lol
@SaturnFreak11 күн бұрын
Heros should automatically choose a random Down B spell to perform at close range. Some of them like Flame Slash, Kacrackle Slash and Magic Burst would obviously be broken but others like Psyche Up/Oomph/Acceleratle would just leave you wide open for a Punish after you grabbed somebody. Perfect risk/reward
@MetalB198517 күн бұрын
Kirby having a special pummel to inhale, would make copying abilities much easier. This would be a good change, since Kirby is already a good grabler.
@zernek919917 күн бұрын
I need C Sharp to give this mod another try because some of these were SO cool. I think all of the Special Pummels that incorporated Jab need to go. Kirby's needs to be fixed because letting him get an inhale is so cool. Let Mewtwo's be Confusion because that'd be interesting. These are so sick, letting characters do unique things with their throws. It's a balancing nightmare, yes, but it's cool as hell
@falcon_punch-g6v16 күн бұрын
NAH RYU JUST FIGURED OUT THE FRICKING SECRET INPUT 💀
@BGMfan16 күн бұрын
@6:40 Robin does have the worst movekit in the game by an objective measure, so this isn't anything to be downtrodden about.
@thunderstar768217 күн бұрын
Incineroar getting insta revenge is neat but I wonder how much damage boost he gets
@goGothitaLOL15 күн бұрын
Less than the original
@corrin-197618 күн бұрын
When the special pummel is part of a jab: daring today are we
@StonySheep14 күн бұрын
Ivysaurs Special Pummel is perfect. It's literally the move Toxic.
@waynemidnight745418 күн бұрын
Robin's is a little disappointing. I think it's supposed to grab the opponent using Nosferatu to heal, but you can't grab someone right after they've been released from another grab. This is why Kirby's wasn't working either...
@gamenwatch626916 күн бұрын
Duck Hunt and Olimar's was pretty cool. Especially Olimar the charge bugle/horn mechanic in Pikmin 3. While freaking character's like Kirby and ZSS is like do not for the love of god ever use. Ryu one probably just needed a fix
@MrJapanUnderground16 күн бұрын
They done turned Duck Hunt dog into Happy Chaos. 😂
@lunarkomet18 күн бұрын
This is almost exactly like something I came up with for smash 6 a long time ago: special grabs. You'd have to press z+b and if you landed it (the animation would be laggier than a regular grab) an "automatic combo" would play, like some fighting game supers, that could also give utility to some characters: get revenge for Incineroar, activate side-b for Sephiroth, place c4 for Snake etc. just like in this mod I'm so happy that an actual modder came up with a similar concept, even though all of the "pummels" without utility kinda suck
@aloe4vm18 күн бұрын
I’ve just watched them call Kirby’s bad as if he can’t get a copy ability and then it’s broken
@gaymer257418 күн бұрын
it doesn't work. you can't inhale them after grabbing them
@rubberduck809618 күн бұрын
Kirby's is bad because its design goes against the game's mechanics. You cannot grab someone within a second of them being released from a grab or being thrown. It doesn't work and never will.
@aloe4vm18 күн бұрын
@ it’s very good if you have a copy ability
@RekRakJat16 күн бұрын
But does Kirby’s special pummel copy the special pummel of the person he has the ability of, or is it just the typical special move at a point-blank range?
@aloe4vm15 күн бұрын
@ I would assume it’s just the copy ability neutral special at point blank
@Diamond_Aura18 күн бұрын
Good concept. Would love to see it with more time in the kitchen to fix the ones that don’t work or that don’t do much
@themegayoutuber16 күн бұрын
In the video he made these in, he showed that he only made unoque special pummels for some characters and not all of them yet, so the characters that werent in that vid just use regular moves lol
@lucaspk1518 күн бұрын
8:58 so ein zufriedenes nicken hahahahah😂😂😂😂 so gut man
@Gaudimann18 күн бұрын
Great concept, looking forward to see more of that! I wonder if Daisy´s would have been different there o.o
@bearmanjon_bmj16 күн бұрын
Incineroar getting Revenge off of grab is heinous
@NeonStudios7632 күн бұрын
I feel like there’s a couple ideas that could be done Jiggypuff could tag her opponent with a marker, and drawn on opponents will sleep longer when caught by Sing, a reference to the pokemon Anime Sonic could maybe have his counter from Frontiers where he spindashes into the opponent and kicks them. Maybe Hero could use Hocus Pocus and get a random spell
@morrijoeanimations17 күн бұрын
I refuse to believe C5 won this many matches
@eeveewithcoffee955418 күн бұрын
The few match was so cool and then followed by three that are just their jab and one that doesn’t do anything
@lucaspk1518 күн бұрын
4:00 danke dass ihr die ICs gezeigt habt alter! Ich dachte schon, keiner wird die nehmen. Aber ich war so interesiert was wohl deren Fähigkeit is 😂😂😂
@barbarictearemedy18 күн бұрын
8:44 was so sick lmao nice one C5 😂
@andrewmcclare724213 күн бұрын
Okay this is actually a VERY cool concept that I think could be a great addition to the series!
@spystar1818 күн бұрын
Specials during grabs sounds like a decent smash 6 mechanic
@eseguerito262915 күн бұрын
Now they gotta just add special getup, and hit falling
@koelee18 күн бұрын
Should've checked if Joker's one changed with Arsene to Eigaon
@dkdavy995718 күн бұрын
When cfive plays so good you think its vvyq
@BrenX118 күн бұрын
I wonder for the jabs, if you hold A again you can keep rapid jabbing
@lastnamefirstname865518 күн бұрын
this is an interesting and fun addition! nice!
@jasomega244618 күн бұрын
Impressive.
@taccm38618 күн бұрын
ZSS should be a stun like Clairen(maybe without the stun after throws cause that’d be a lot of work), link could equip a remote bomb or double arrow or something. Hero could regen MP on special pummel, or get a different buff like a mini oomph. Maybe Banjo could regain a wonder wing? Diddy should be a guarantee trip. Samus could do some cool shit like suck them with her dread Metroid powers and heal a bit of health. Mewtwo could stun them as if using down b, jr could latch a mecha koopa to them. DK feels pretty obvious, just bury them using a side b basically. Steve could like mine the opponent and do a bit of damage and gain resources. Just a few ideas to make the characters special pummels more interesting
@xProErax18 күн бұрын
There are so many cool things you could do with piranha plant's poison cloud and I'm so sad the game doesn't implement them. Back air into poison cloud becoming like a big PK fire is something that I remember seeing someone implement and man that's like the biggest thing I would want. The special pummel is definitely what I would implement if you charged it for however much he did and then allowing the opponent to get attacked while still holding them is another improvement to piranha plant's poison
@xipibug18 күн бұрын
I think it's because the grab inmunity that special pummer don't work on kirby.
@soba_fm17 күн бұрын
thatd b a cool addition for smash 6! at least stylistically if not mechanically bc it could look so cool
@TheEmeraldTyrant16 күн бұрын
The min min one is useful only if you dont have the right arm at the time of grabbing. You swap to the one you need then throw to continue the combo. That's it's use lol
@darkax114018 күн бұрын
Peach: Make her spawn a turnip and hit with that, same dmg and knockback as the one spawn. (Could be sticth face or even bomb omb) Hero: Make him trip his opponent and then cast hocus pocus, the trip is to ensure the spell conects (Gamble time, can get a giant or get mana drained) Steve: Make him build a block under him, to be closer to blast zone, to then U-Throw. (It will need a maximum, maybe each pummel creates a diffrent kind of block dirt to wood to metal so max would be 3.) DK: Make him grab his opponent and drag them across the stage until you press it again and launch (like cargo but instead of jumping and used for combos it can only launch forward down at an ugly angle which is good for killing.) Shiek: Take her opponent and U-B to any direction (Opponents are launched when reappearing which means the second hit is weaker but opens for combos) Link: That thing that throws chains and stun from breath of the wild. ZSS: Flip jump, make her ground her opponent or spike them if they are closer to the ledge, she still does the flip jump which u can use as normal. Mario: Cape, he uses cape to flip his next throw which sent to the opposite direction. Aegis: Actually pretty obvious, just change character. Didy: Spawn a one use banana (Once spawn you can pummel normally which will trip enemy and disappear banana or you can throw normally and have a banana in hand but once it touches something it disappears, enemy or ground) Banjo: Replenish one wonder wing but spawn a bomb which also hurts Banjo and Kazooie.
@Madchimpz14 күн бұрын
I just realized cFive looks like a younger version of the character Jeff from Better Call Saul before he was recast in the final season.
@Supersteam0918 күн бұрын
I don’t think Kirby works because the suction itself counts as a grab. Kirby already grabbed them and there’s a delay before you can grab them again.
@navolas27 күн бұрын
This would be neat to see in the actual game but in a more balanced way across the board
@FTotox18 күн бұрын
Happy Chrysler
@JoshTheValiant14 күн бұрын
Fun idea, but yeah, tacking this on to a game that doesn't have a defined set of conditions and stage control elements like Rivals is designed around makes these mostly subpar.
@extremechiton18 күн бұрын
Now we need special get up attacks
@SadFace22917 күн бұрын
I'm curious on how this works. Special pummels look interesting enough, but special ledge attacks and special get up attacks I am iffy on due to keeping the defensive options lower, especially at the ledge. SSBU got a nice rhythm down with ledge trapping and edgeguarding that I'd like to keep a the minimum for the next SSB title.
@dropkickedmurphy646315 күн бұрын
Revenge off of grab sounds REALLY broken.
@diablicosWFT17 күн бұрын
you guys should make a vid or a short with all of them, i really wanted to see wii fits :0
@theultimaterat31518 күн бұрын
is it maybe that kirbys special pummel requires you to have eaten an enemy and taken their neutral B to function?
@PonchoGang18 күн бұрын
Mario got the reach Dang😂 8:54
@falcon_punch-g6v16 күн бұрын
5:37 is why I desperately need a moddable Switch.
@OverZeelous15 күн бұрын
There's plenty of V1 Switches on eBay.
@falcon_punch-g6v13 күн бұрын
@@OverZeelous I know what I'm doing now.
@raven-a18 күн бұрын
I think this has the potential to balance a bit better the game, like characters that lack some power could now fish for grabs just to get a special pummel, hopefully most of these are just placeholders, because a lot just look like generic tilts or something, nothing special at all
@AlphabetBackwards9 күн бұрын
Duck hunts special pummel is just fleets
@raven-a18 күн бұрын
I'm glad that Olimar, such a low tier character, got such a balanced special pummel, if that made into the game it would make it way more balanced, for sure 😂🎉
@adriellightvale814018 күн бұрын
8:56 Let's all say it together.
@mentioncontention18 күн бұрын
forward aerial
@shnoop618 күн бұрын
forward aerial
@Shady_Fungus18 күн бұрын
Could he have tech’d?
@AnormaIPerson312118 күн бұрын
M-M-M-MIID
@falcon_punch-g6v16 күн бұрын
Forward Aerial
@jeffreybrown842216 күн бұрын
I main Plant. I would love poison pummel. Next game, Plant should have that AND his down b snaps ledge.
@Rocky-cc3xs18 күн бұрын
Looks fun!
@mac_chappy14 күн бұрын
Damn I wish I saw Shulk's. His probably like Min Min's. If her's is like that. Then his has to as well most likely.
@LazyDude072618 күн бұрын
Merry Crisis everyone 🎄
@darioschottlender18 күн бұрын
I love the special pummel in rivals but the fact that it's 50/50 if the opponent stops it is one of the main reasons I'm not playing that game. I don't know who thought it was a good idea...
@cloudedarctrooper14 күн бұрын
Tbh, I wanna see this in tourney play
@DaBoy218718 күн бұрын
Kirby is supposed to have a copy ability first to make use of Special Pummel, should be busted with charge blasts
@StoicForce8 күн бұрын
I assume Ridley's was a rapid jab?
@SonicTheCutehog18 күн бұрын
Can't really call most of these *SPECIAL* pummels when a good amount of them don't even involve one of the their special moves
@MGG_1018 күн бұрын
if kirbys special pummel is just his neutral b then what happens if he has a copy ability?
@maugos18 күн бұрын
Bowser's pummel is fire! lol
@CodeKirby14 күн бұрын
aaaannnd thats another kirby grab that doesnt work
@benjamingesinski917015 күн бұрын
Some of the characters were given some pretty cool gimmicks with their special pummels. But it is disappointing how a lot of them just seem to be alternate throws. But hey, I imagine it must have been difficult coming up with special pummels for almost 100 characters, let alone modding them into the game with only being able to use the pre-existing assets. I think DK's actually works for him since it gives him a normal forward throw. Kirby's really needs a rework, the concept is perfect for him, but the game's mechanics just butchers the move. And I think Mewtwo's special pummel should have been his disable down special.
@mvk005815 күн бұрын
Does kirby have different special pummells based on his current copy ability?
@STRONTIumMuffin4 күн бұрын
That's CRAZY, I much prefer Rivals pummel to smash'sversion
@Ridlay_18 күн бұрын
That’s super cool
@maleturtle404016 күн бұрын
Wait, does Ness’ do pk fire?
@GrimmGungren17 күн бұрын
For some reason this mod disables the cap toss moveset mod for Mario 😔 although hes not in the list
@MrNioMoon18 күн бұрын
i like the idea
@Twinsen76418 күн бұрын
BRING BACK SMASH REVIEW!
@nointeraction-today18 күн бұрын
I really miss smash review 😢
@pyga_vs17 күн бұрын
they just add another throw bruh
@jayvionburke492917 күн бұрын
RYU is the best one
@rnd0mkid9318 күн бұрын
Why did Cfive pop off today?
@plowo302111 күн бұрын
Not ZSS having another move thats minus
@Tactix_se18 күн бұрын
These aren’t even pummels. The whole point of a pummel is to do extra damage before choosing a throw to use. These are just new throws for each character
@trust347417 күн бұрын
Some are pummels, some are unique throws. They didn't to the best job of showcasing the mod because the point is that you can mash out of a special pummel at lower percents. The tradeoff is that special pummels are easier to mash out of so at lower percents, it is more worth to do a normal pummel. at very high percents, you can pummel into a throw. mod creator goes into more detail on the designs of the special pummels. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bmSlenSAn7uIja8si=6qIFO70q5wNjd-N6&t=79
@kagerisu18 күн бұрын
Fox was given the lamest one
@caoinhnamkhanh279518 күн бұрын
ngl, theyre pretty uninteresting for the most part 💀
@senseisawk18 күн бұрын
The modder didn't even playtest this smh. All of these new pummels are so garbage
@lucaantinori483418 күн бұрын
Honestly, you should be glad Kirby's doesn't work. Logically, this is a perfect fit, but if it work it would guarantee Inhale no matter what. Not only are you guaranteed to get the copy ability, but the kirbycide too
@Ev-wo7ev18 күн бұрын
Under an hour reply here.
@lucaspk1518 күн бұрын
Erster
@trentbell827618 күн бұрын
I think the reason Kirby's isn’t working has something to do with the fact that you can’t chaingrab.
@der_sandler18 күн бұрын
Thought this was smash review in my inbox 🥲
@GoozyGang18 күн бұрын
Same lol
@suddy225018 күн бұрын
Itwould be cool if you put modders' names in the titles, even when credited in the video. A lot of people only scroll past even if they think it's cool