Someone made an ERROR! Costing a Customer - More time than Money 2014 Kia Soul 1.5 Stalling

[@scotmartin4460]

Dude! In my youth, I designed and built explosive devices for the US military. I lost my vision 3 years ago, but I sincerely love listening to you work on cars. Never touch the red wire. Lol. Cheers, bud.

[@billiebobbienorton2556]

Thank you for your service. Sorry about you vision loss.

[@bigsparky8888]

PRECICELY MY HEART AS WELL...YOUR SERVICE IS HIGHLY APPRECIATED BROTHER!!!

[@paulhall1239]

Ty for your service sir.

[@slimenation2424]

Lost your vision or slightly lost vision

[@tdkyt46]

There's a whole story behind this

[@Indigenous51]

Hi Ray. I’ve been a vehicle repair guy, mechanics and crash , for 50 years and I find your work ethics and methods refreshingly exemplary and really enjoy watching your channel. It’s like watching a clone of myself with an American accent. It’s great when I make the same predictions as yourself.There are times I wish I could give you some input on some of your jobs to help out, but you always get there in the end. Top man ! 😉🇬🇧

[@prism8289]

Hey Ray. I’m a former SRQ person, and sent your page out on my fb. A friend wants to come to you, how do they?

[@efraingarfias7856]

🇲🇽

[@chilee6994]

I like everything but that stupid phone

[@SteelJM1]

@@chilee6994 doo deee dooo!

[@blu3savag355]

He's a joke and always has been

[@kristinabrown4951]

Honestly that was a very excellent way to differentiate between the two rear wheel speed sensors, that experiment should have unpack what you were intending to explain to the people who are unfamiliar on how electrical circuits work. GOOD JOB on another repair order.

[@nunya3163]

It would have been perfect if he had done it the other way around, thus proving that that the rest of the circuit was good, using the right side, known good sensor, with the left side circuit. Doing it this way, there is still a small chance that there is an error in the circuit, or that he had a bad connection on the sensor, and it is good.

[@miggy_moto2383]

It’s sad that the average tech would NEVER do such troubleshooting as you did.

[@KnightsWithoutATable]

1:00 is the majic time.

[@alexandercopeland2849]

It would have been quicker if he used a scope on a rope/ aka test light, if the power side lite the light, then it would have been sensor, no light abs module or a bad wire break. It also worked the way he did it, like he said he had down time.

[@randystegemann9990]

@@nunya3163 That's what I thought he was going to do when he said triple check. That is a good electrical troubleshooting technique.

[@ron1584]

I still say Ray is great on diagnosing the reason for the fault instead of just replacing parts until the problem goes away.

[@spacepope-1]

No parts shotgun here

[@fjm472]

That’s what I hate about my current job.. we know the problem and cold fix it for a few € but if something would happen again we would get in legal trouble so we just charge 350€ for a single part.

[@pitchforkpeasant6219]

@@spacepope-1 👍👍. Think the parts shotgun is more appropriate than the parts cannon since a cannon fires one projectile as opposed to many😁

[@CareyHolzman]

Thank you! Wish there were more honest and capable mechanics like you. Tired of the morons who leave nasty comments.

[@NoName-tz5ji]

Just trolling by to leave a nasty comment: NASTY!

[@bigsparky8888]

YUP...LOOK AT SOME IN FOX NEWS...TRUTH IS TOLD THERE...AND BLIND IS EVIDENT IN COMMENTS...A LOT OF THEM LEAVE POOR REMARKS BECAUSE THEY DONT KNOW...PERIOD...

[@pitchforkpeasant6219]

You have 2 replies and mines the third. Wondering if people understand their youtube settings

[@shanepowers7566]

I’ve been blending weights of oil since I can remember. Gearbox oil also. Success always, so far. When I started, cars didn’t use oil thinner than 30 wt.

[@jasonmyers3358]

I’m OCD so I appreciate you putting the oil cap so you can read it, and the handle part is horizontal, lol! You may not think people noticed those things but when they do it’s a great feeling! Great job! I’m a painter and drywall finisher and when I do re-paints I love it when people notice that I cleaned all the old paint and dirt off their trim and light fixtures from previous paint jobs! It’s all about taking pride in your work! You sir are good at your trade!

[@allanmccorquodale7018]

Jason Don't you mean the 710 cap? :)

[@Mavendow]

I appreciate your attention to detail because sometimes it matters more than one might expect. Story below, TL;DR version: failure to communicate, shop had to temporarily close. A few years back I purchased a new 7000w portable generator. It seemed to run nicely, powered the house, I was generally happy. But... After I finished my testing it wouldn't turn off. Eventually, I figured to unplug some wires going into the starter PCB. I called the tech, I opted to fix it myself, so they shipped me a new PCB and starter motor. I replaced them both, ran it, no change. After shutting it off I just had this weird feeling I should try again, so I started it once more. It seemed the same at first, but the longer it ran, the pitch and volume of the motor seemed to rise. The rising sound gave me a _really_ bad gut feeling. As I unplugged it, I realized it was putting out heat like a blast furnace despite running maybe 5 minutes across both tests. When it shut off the engine made metallic "tink tink" noises. I noted the heat it was putting out from over a meter away. So, I called the tech, said the issue wasn't resolved, and discussed the dramatic overheat. Said I didn't want to try any more troubleshooting because I was now concerned it was unsafe. He opened a ticket at a nearby repair shop and told me to take it in. Later that day I talked with the shop manager. I said the tech suspected the starter motor was not disengaging from the engine. I added that this condition was causing immense internal heating and stressed several times I felt it was dangerous. The manager was seemingly polite and understanding so I went home and waited for updates. Two weeks later the tech called back and asked how my generator was doing. I hadn't received it nor had I gotten any calls... I called the shop. Despite it being work hours my call went to voicemail. I relayed this to the tech; he called and got the same result. I was kinda busy so the tech said he would follow up next Thursday. I also called several times but didn't get anyone until that Wednesday (third week). The shop picked up: "... Hello ... This is ... [manager] ... ehh, at um, ... [repair shop.]" "Hi, this is Mavendow, I'm calling for an update about my Westinghouse generator." Silence on the other end. "Hello? Are you there?" More silence. "This isn't funny, what's going on?" The other end finally responded: "Your generator is gone." "I'm sorry, what? It's gone? What do you mean it's gone?" More silence. Then, I heard a deep breath. "Uh, no, it's sitting here in the shop, we haven't removed it yet." "Huh? What?" "Uh... it exploded." _"What._ Holy s---! Ah, um, is everyone okay?" "Three mechanics were hospitalized." Another deep breath. "One had severe burns and a broken arm, the other two had minor burns. Several customers and staff including myself have minor hearing loss. The fire burned away most of the roof." Long story short, they started it up to test. The tech left it running while he tried to diagnose the problem. Apparently, my warning about the overheating did not get through. I never saw any pictures, but according to their description: The generator was now a melted husk of scrap metal sitting on the shop floor; parts of it embedded into the walls. One person said it looked like an IED had gone off. I don't understand how a small engine can cause such a massive blast, but that's what happened. I got a free replacement under warranty and the company launched an investigation to ensure it didn't happen again. Both to their credit. New generator runs great. But I will never forget how a simple failure to communicate resulted in a huge explosion.

[@damkayaker]

@@Mavendow - I would have told them to refund my money and buy a different brand >>> Generac.

[@Mavendow]

​@@damkayaker Nah, it's a great generator. It's almost as quiet as a Honda yet the price was cheaper than Briggs and Champion. Starts up with a remote push-button, easy frequency tuning, big gas tank compared to most brands. I was ready for a lemon because I'd done my homework - I knew Westinghouse recently lost billions on a nuclear power plant deal. Bought it anyway because I'd heard their warranty was great and most other generator brands were sold out due to the hurricane season. The warranty was more than advertised; I didn't just get customer service, I could hear the guy working on a generator while he walked me through fixing mine. I understand the difference between a one-off lemon and a company which has systemic problems. This was a pretty damn bad lemon but they made it right.

[@MonkeyJedi99]

@@Mavendow I hope they also "made it right" for the shop and injured employees and other customers! Yikes!

[@edwintyler4110]

Hey Ray I've watched most of your videos. You are one of the best mechanic's I seen on KZbin. I like your work because you go above and beyond your job duties the make the customer's issues are fixed. Wished more of you guys did the same. 10 stars for you !!!

[@billiebobbienorton2556]

I have always stressed to my sons the importance of being able to problem solve. You are a shining example of that unique talent. Critical thinking is a lost art. Keep up the good and entertaining work.

[@Beobout6]

When an honest and intelligent person works on cars with positive results you get a channel like this. Thank you. I love watching those results. I wish your shop was near me.

[@jeffdriver3000]

To confirm the ABS circuit you should of used the RR sensor to the LR wiring to make sure it shows MPH. The disconnected crankshaft sensor is a trick the bureau of automotive repairs pulls to confirm shops are doing the correct diagnosis and repairs

[@bindthedevilloosetheangels]

Imagine how much better he could be if he didn't have a camera in one hand and a flashlight in the other. Took me over a decade to start using a headlamp. I will never go back to not using one. This guy is a good technician. And motivates others to keep learning.

[@general1977]

I would have connected the right sensor to the left wiring harness and watched the PID go to zero. This way, the continuity of the driver side harness would have been confirmed, as well as the faultiness of the left sensor. ;)

[@charleshenshaw9099]

Yes, this would be the correct way to complete the diagnosis.

[@todayintheshopbanksy5904]

So would I, if he didn't have a good connection he'd still be reading 157mph.

[@stpeter7432]

Good point! Ray's established that the left sensor is faulty but there could be a fault in the left harness/ecu input circuit as well. Good vid showing the importance of "click"!

[@DavidStrchld]

Well he did confirm a problem, though as you point out it doesn't confirm it's the only problem. I would have tended to do it the other way, and thought that was what he was doing and didn't understand the results he got and had to go back and see what he did. But thinking it over both ways should be used for a proper diagnosis to help rule out multiple faults, and also to help confirm the jumpers were making proper contact for the test.

[@billclinton6040]

He suspected the sensor was faulty and connecting the working passenger side sensor to the driver side wiring wouldn't have proved that the sensor was faulty. Yes, it would've proved the wiring to the sensor was fine, but the point of his test was to prove the sensor was bad. Time is money, and proving the wiring is OK simply wastes time.

[@dongriffith3677]

I don't know where you are in business but I can guarantee that if it was anywhere near Boise Idaho, you and my 3 cars and 1 truck would have you handprints all over them!!!! The World needs more honest people like you!

[@KellyMurphy]

They forgot to check the torque on the connector and tighten it until it goes "click" Always make sure all connectors are properly torqued to factory specs.

[@TheZacheryMantis]

This guy is so likable. and seems to be a very good and knowledgeable mechanic. Love the different sound effects he does.

[@christopherwise7067]

that is actually a good diagnostic move... it is called replacing with known good parts the same as if switching O2 sensors to see if one changes for the other... that's why they make extended, ratcheting test leads...

[@kevingray8616]

Now, the flip-side of that. They make bad new parts every day. (read that again) Never assume a new part is good. They’re not all bench tested and even if they passed a bench test doesn’t mean they’re good by the time you get them.

[@christopherwise7067]

@@kevingray8616 I'm talking about known good parts that are on the vehicle, if you didn't know that.

[@haydn-db8z]

Great video. The root of the problem in this case is Kia/Hyundai. I have a friend with this same car (2014 Kia Soul) and my 2003 Japanese car is holding up better than theirs.

[@Stover1928]

Excellent! I find your explanation of your diagnostic process clear and understandable. Thanks for teaching.

[@PrimordialOops]

Hey Ray, from Oklahoma here. I found your channel when I was working on my truck. Didn’t really know why, but I really liked to hear you talk and explain things, your sense of humor is very much on par with me and my peeps ha ha. It finally hit me today as I watched this video, my uncle passed away in January of 2019, he was 56 years old. It dawned on me, that you sound almost exactly like him. I never really got to talk to him that much, and simply weren’t as close as I would have liked. Just getting to hear the sound / nuance of that voice brings me comfort I think. I’m an IT tech, so you and I have similar careers of problem solving machines. Keep up the good work bud. I’m learning a ton about vehicles and the diagnostic process very cool. -Jamie

[@BlackCloud82]

Ray, excellent diagnostic work and using process of elimination. You have a very logical mind. Keep up the good work.

[@johncunningham4820]

Excellent Diagnosing . No Assumptions made . Those Bloody PLUGS . Attention to detail is essential . Must go Click . Customer should hand Your Invoice for Diag/Repair to whoever replaced the Crank Sensor . A " Be Thorough next time " message .

[@robertforslund5025]

You're absolutely right abt blending the Oils, the new "0W20" is not blendable with older types!

[@halleffect1]

what happens if you blend it?

[@tomnekuda3818]

157 mph Kia? That is one fast Kia!! They should sell a million of those! Great diagnostic technique.

[@jasonkerr8739]

Hey Ray, enjoyed that diagnosing. Honestly, I've done similar things on aircraft before. Running wires from one side/end of a helicopter to the other to confirm serviceability on parts. Enjoy watching your content with my morning coffee. Cheers!

[@patrickjmorgan]

Same logic that I apply. I thought I was the only one! Got loads of leads and clips for that process. Love it.

[@Orion40000]

I like the vast majority of your vidfeos, but I particularly liked this one. The way you swapped in parts without removing them (or using spares) by using patch leads is something tht's going to stick with me - an amateur - on my turn-of-the-century cars. Thank you so much for your continued commitment!

[@treeguyable]

The " official " way , if it works, is " official". Been working on cars since 77, running patch wires, to test something, is a very good procedure. I got more worn out on " ghost" electrical problems, than I did busting tires, and pulling transmission/ transfers, all day.

[@straedeizoizoffle9137]

Im Jon snow of Engines. I know nothing but still i find it interesting to listen to and view your content. Thanks for taking the Time to record and upload.

[@newstart49]

Attitude is 75% of good work. You have good attitude. Common sense is 80% of efficient work- you have that too. If I keep going, you'll have 210%. 48 years in HVAC tech. The procedures not found in the books are sometimes the better way to get to the obvious problem. To find what isn't working, sometimes you must look for all that IS working. Then of course finding out why it failed.

[@chaser9363]

Hey dude, love your vids, skills and most of all, your patience. That being said I have a small issue with the way you diagnosed the speed sensor issue. The problem I have is that you kinda tried to prove a negative by jumping the bad side sensor to the good side circuit. When I beleive that it would have been better proof if you would have jumped the good side sensor to the bad side circuit, proving that the bad side circuit was good, therefore showing the bad side sensor as the "misnomer". Where as the way you went about it, there was a high risk of a bad connection in your jumper system, therefore would show an open circuit anyway, giving you a false positive. Where as the other way it would show either/or, depending on how good the connection was. Just food for thought. 🤔 Anyway, keep up the good work. 😎

[@roachmotel69]

Hi Ray, a quick tip for next time. If you suspect the component to be bad you should try your test method in reverse. Plug the known good speed sensor into the harness on the other side. If that 157 changes to zero, well then, there you go.

[@almostfm]

Why? He determined that whatever side you connected the LR sensor to it showed that wheel at 157 mph. The only common part in the two tests was the LR wheel sensor.

[@TheDisgruntledMechanic]

Test instead of guess! That trick of using long leads to switch sensor sides is a good test. Way to go Ray!

[@simonilett998]

@The Disgruntled Mechanic No, this was a pointless test he showed. Watch again, he should've connected the good right hand sensor to the left side harness to confirm wiring integrity on the left side was actually good🤣

[@TheDisgruntledMechanic]

@@simonilett998 actually missed that! Ha I just knew what the process was. Have to watch again I thought what you said is what was done. So much for watching the videos at 2x speed!

[@simonilett998]

@@TheDisgruntledMechanic Yep, the thought process was sound, but he did the test ass about🤣

[@Xboxmurphytubbbs500]

I work for Kia 99% of the time when it’s a crank sensor code check ocv valves and check bearing clearance. Check oil see if there’s any metal in the oil see if there is any noise in the intake manifold runners are known for breaking lose and floating around. The abs and track control is a wheel speed sensor almost always the sensor easy fix takes about ten minutes. 🤙🏻 love you videos bro

[@georgecaspira]

That looks like a test from a consumer group to test the honesty of the shop / mechanics / technician....

[@Parknest]

I could be. If so, then Ray passed the test with flying colours.

[@derekhobbs1102]

A news program here in Australia used to do it.

[@georgecaspira]

@@Parknest he sure did, he is a very competent tech / mechanic.

[@vehiclenanny]

This was my first thought as well.

[@InCountry6970]

I do not know a single mechanic other than you, Ray, that would check, double check and triple check something like this. You are incredible for sure. Please move to my home town !!!!

[@davidrunski4893]

Sometime when you have a slow day, I'd love to see a tour of your tools. For some reason it just seems so strange to me that each mechanic is responsible for their own tools which need to carted from job to job if you leave. Watching one of your older videos where you changed jobs, I was shocked to see that you filled the trailer. I would have thought that some of that equipment would have been provided by the shop.

[@joskd8491]

I also wondered why. The fact that he has to bring his own tools to his boss to work there makes me quess that Ray is not just a car mechanic having a job at a car repair shop. I think the shop hires him, not as an employee, but as a independent professional mechanic.

[@dcinitials3140]

This is how shops work. Subcontractors that let the business do the paperwork. If you don't mind customers and parts departments for returns, then make more money on your own or work at a shop and deal with cars and management only. It's just like hairstylist or tattoo artist but with a lot more equipment. Socal shops don't treat techs good hence we have our boxes on wheels. My snap off scanner ran 3200 and 1k for updates I stopped updating mine after they failed to own up to a buy one get one deal done when covid hit. Hope this helps understand tech cost just to be able to wrench.

[@TheMarcQ]

Another way for companies to not deal with those pesky worker rights is hiring them as "independent contractors" as we see here

[@Pigpen_Jeeper]

After watching your videos on the regular.. I've discovered one very important tip, You have a great flashlight! It cannot be beat by gravity. As many times as it hits the floor it just keeps on working!

[@joeslouie489]

4:24 this is why I always wear my own pair of gloves when working on a car. Especially when I have to take out mounting pins on a disc brake

[@coloradoboo1071]

Your OCD with the oil filler cap is most enjoyable!! I used to work with a guy who like that with everything on his desk…if I moved anything just a smidge he knew!!

[@graham9060]

Have been watching your videos for some time now and am always amazed at your impeccable ethics and honesty. I have yet to find a tech in the UK that matches your high standards. Keep it up.

[@jaydogg4904]

Love all the ideas for processes of elimination for the problem at hand. Knowledge is power.

[@crystalgriffith1075]

Who can agree, we need a "Meet the Petahhhh" video please Sir?

[@mfguate]

I started watching your channel just a couple of weeks ago, but I have to say, I enjoy every video I have seen so far. I now use your words, like "click", "gravity", etc. Have a lot of joy and am learning a lot. Thanks for a job well done!!

[@roadmonitoroz]

The diagnosis by swapping the left and right speed sensors via jumper wires relies on you having them connected correctly. If just 1 of the contacts is poor then it may still read 157 MPH. (Unlikely that one slipped off or a poor connection but still a possibility)

[@simonilett998]

@roadmonitoroz Brisbane Correct, and using a similar method should work just fine if the wires are connected well, but more importantly Ray connected them ass about. He should've been using the known good right sensor connected to the left side wiring🤣🇦🇺

[@dans_Learning_Curve]

@@simonilett998 yes, I came to that conclusion also. That way the wiring to the computer would have been tested too. However, hindsight is 20-15! Being the one watching and not doing the work, and the one setting up camera shots, I'm giving him a slide on this one.

[@simonilett998]

@@dans_Learning_Curve Interesting, I thought he sets up the camera shots himself, I guess not going by your reply. Yes, neither the wiring nor the sensor itself on the left side were proven good or bad with the tests he did! I figure the whole idea of 'test, don't guess' and 'don't fire the parts cannon until 100% sure' is the most important part of the process, and for the best interest of the customer and the technician. Just letting things 'slide' as you say, is when both the customer and the technician get burned, and the worst part of that scenario is the customer gets pissed off and the tech gets a bad rap. Sure, in this particular case there weren't any parts being fired at it since Ray didn't get the go-ahead to diagnose or fix it, but what if the wiring was actually bad, and Ray had fitted a complete new wheel bearing and sensor assembly...who would be paying for the new part, and who ends up with egg on their face for a silly mistake of doing the diagnostic test backwards?🤷

[@darkshadow851]

​@@simonilett998 You seem to be operating on the assumption that this diagnostic he did was all he would've done, had the diagnostic been authorized. Not sure about you, but generally going through every appropriate step on unauthorized labor is frowned upon. But even then, operating on that assumption, nothing bad would've even happened. He confirmed the sensor at the wheel bearing is faulty. Replacing that would need to be done, regardless. If the wiring is ALSO bad, then he'd know that the second the new sensor is attached and the problem still exists. He checked the wiring for a short and it showed open, which is to be expected. He connected a suspected faulty sensor to known good wiring and got a fault. So, between those two tests, any semi-rational person would target the sensor and not the wiring. Could he have connected the right sensor to the left wiring instead? Absolutely. But it's just taking extra steps to confirm the left side wiring is good, which is already known to a reasonable degree. And as stated above, if it ISN'T good, that will be discovered immediately upon replacing the known bad sensor.

[@simonilett998]

@@darkshadow851 Given the situation, as neither the diagnosis nor the repair were authorized, he was doing it on his own time anyway, so he can come to whatever conclusion he wants and it makes no difference to the outcome here. My philosophy is 'test, don't guess' to avoid all possibility of misdiagnosis and getting burned, or the customer getting half a diagnosis and leaving the potential open for other hidden/unknown issues. Sure, by connecting the suspected bad sensor to the good side wiring fairly clearly points to just a bad sensor on the left side, and the probability is low that the left side wiring is also bad, but it is possible to have both issues combined. My point is, the quickest and most definitive test would've been to connect the known good sensor on the right to the left side wiring, this would've narrowed the issue down to the left sensor being faulty as the only possibility. It proves in one easy test, without question, that the left side wiring is good, and the left sensor is actually faulty, without any 'extra unauthorized diagnostic charges' and eliminates the possibility of your suggested scenario of 'further diagnostics may be required' after already replacing the sensor!! Your method would be an absolute BS situation for the customer to be expected to swallow 🤣

[@5smechanicalunlimited764]

Man i wish you would go out on your own, you have the calm, cool, collected approach that it takes to stay focused and get the job done correctly and efficiently.

[@benjaminberger9629]

Very Nice :) one thing I would differently - connect the wire of the left sensor to the known good sensor. Cause if my janky wiring is too janky, it will also show 157 :)

[@Steve-bj2se]

I agree. If the wiring and/or connector is open circuited a good sensor will read 157.

[@cloud8521]

Not to mention it makes the assumption that there is not two points of failure, there is no need to test the good wiring, but there would have been need to test the potentially bad wiring and sensor. By testing the known good senor on the potentially bad wiring you have the possibility of skipping a test of the sensor, as if the wiring works on the good sensor, it is clean and you can use the process or elimination.

[@gregpheysey6933]

Ray you have proper work ethics it’s not just customer satisfaction but your own curiosity and self satisfaction that’s so enjoyable to watch, there is a lot of us out there great show Ray thanks

[@ehsnils]

157 is what you get truncated when you read the signal level "254" from CAN which usually in Autosar means "Error". If you had displayed in km/h you would probably read 254 instead. But it could be 252 or 253 as well and then one of them can mean short and the other open circuit. This is one of the times where it could pay off looking at the raw or metric values.

[@stealthg35infiniti94]

Excellent 100% proof exchange in my opinion.

[@fazerstorm-oap]

Was just thinking you could try checking via the right hand sensor and hey presto, you did just that! Good diagnostic technique 👍

[@jerrykr7kz]

Outstanding troubleshooting.....

[@Gdsmith504]

Ray, thank you for making these videos, and uploading daily. I find that every morning I am eager to find out what you’ve been up to. Your positive attitude helps to brighten my day.

[@26cjones]

Truly a trust worthy mechanic. There's certainly not enough mechanics like you around anymore. If I'm ever in your area, I'll def take my car to your shop.

[@colindawson4818]

Would have been more useful to put the known good sensor into the plug that was showing 157, then see that pid drop to 0, that would confirm that the only problem is in the sensor or the thing that the sensor is sensing. At the moment, all you know for sure is that the bad sensor is bad, you don't know that the rest of the circuit is good. i.e. you never got the left plug to read 0, to confirm that circuit working properly. That would better confirm that the problem is confined to the senor area. or to put another way, using a known good sensor to prove the circuit.

[@71prim8]

Right, the 157 after he switched the leads is the same result as if he simply unplugged the sensor, which he did.

[@Billybobaggins9]

Not going to lie he had me confused until I thought about it why he was jumping to a known short not proving out the actually spruce side of circuit

[@roberthackenberg2874]

I probably would have thrown the meter across the sensor and it should be short if good open circuit if bad.

[@mojunk19]

@@roberthackenberg2874 most tech would have walked away! And said have a nice day. They declined the service.

[@colindawson4818]

@@gimmeaford9454 lol. I know that I never said that. All I was saying was.... connect the known good sensor, to the unknown circuit. That then proves the unknown circuit is good. Plugging a suspect sensor into a known good circuit proves nothing when having to use jumper cables, as the open circuit could be anywhere. Even with jumper cables, seeing a value of less than 157 miles per hour on a stationary vehicle, whilst pluged unknown circuit through unknown jury rigging, will prove that the the sensor, jury rigging and circuit are good, thus leaving the only possibility being a fault in the suspect sensor assembly.

[@revlouch]

From personal experience I do the wire lead trick on all sorts of things when diagnosing electrical anything so happy to see someone else do it

[@rigger8722]

I thought this was a bait car to start. Journalists trying to catch unscrupulous mechanics. But with the speed sensor it was a bit more problematic. Probably a genuine customer, but you never know.

[@ShellSide]

Hey Ray, I am a chemical engineer but I don't work in automotive oils. What the guy was asking for probably would've worked but you guys were completely right to tell him hell no you aren't mixing oils for him. The overall viscosities would probably work out initially but the goal for automotive oils is to have molecules of similar sizes. he would have a blend of a bunch of different length molecules that would probably get thick and syrupy way faster than a normal bottle of the correct grade oil. Sounds like he had some spare oil containers in his garage he wanted to get rid of and I cant say I wouldn't do the same if that were me lol

[@shakey2634]

Very interesting. Can I ask, would it be beneficial to connect the right wheel speed sensor to the left wheel harness and if it read “0” it would prove the integrity of the circuit from the wheel forward?

[@nunya3163]

Yes, that would have been proof positive that the circuit was good, and only the sensor was bad. Ray was just having a little fun with this one.

[@alexandercopeland2849]

There are several faster ways of finding the problem, like turn the meter to volts and putting one to the ground and one on power wire, if you have 5 volts wiring is good. another would have been test light same way as meter but instead of numbers you have light, if it lights all good.

[@alexandercopeland2849]

another would to have been to check ohms on the speed sensor side, if it says OL spin the wheel and still OL bad sensor

[@diederikvandedijk]

You should have connected the right sensor to the left circuit as well, to verify that the left circuit is functioning.

[@brucecoleman7412]

Since the problem is an open circuit, I would suggest to also connect the known good right sensor to the left sensor circuit. That would eliminate the possibility of a bad sensor and an open circuit in the wire. Although unlikely, there could be 2 problems.

[@larrybaltz4873]

Yes, I totally agree. It's possible that the temp connections were bad. Known good part should be plugged into the suspected bad part's harness.

[@bluewindshield]

Short and sweet. To the point. Great diagnosis, even though customer refused repair.

[@f.demascio1857]

I'm left with these questions; What effect does the open wheel speed sensor have on the performance of the vehicle? Will the engine be subjected to harm? Misfires? etc?

[@eclectichoosier5474]

If it can't determine the wheel speed, the antilock brakes won't work properly. When the ABS doesn't work, brakes work normally - that is, they just keep applying more pressure when you step harder on the pedal. Which means that the wheel can lock up, and you skid. That can cause loss of control, and a crash. (Worst-case.)

[@scott_meyer]

Not traction control either

[@frankvucolo6249]

In our 2008 Jeep which is currently experiencing a wheel sensor or tone ring problem, in addition to the regular ABS code it is also impacting the PCM and TCM, throwing codes for “implausible right wheel speed signal received.” Car starts bucking and goes into limp mode. I only work on my own cars, but in all the years, this is the first time I’ve experienced an ABS problem that impacted impacted the engine and trans. They keep computerizing everything!

[@Dirtyharry70585]

@T.J. Kong yup also 30 yrs difference in code

[@whuzzzup]

Engine will work fine, no worries. You might die though because your ABS fails.

[@arianrhod]

Thank you. You are a very conscientious mechanic. I love the thought process in diagnostic methodology. I hope others can learn from you your work ethic. My dad is a retired mechanic and did similar diagnosing of problems.

[@seanfxsho]

Looks like its a mystery shopper / trading standards car checking out your repair shop..

[@NY411Info]

I use 5W20 in my Ford's in the winter and 5W30 in the summer. All car companies can get bent. They run at lower RPMs so thinner oil will wear the engines out faster. This is why diesel engines use thicker oils. My F150 Coyote engine only turns 1500 rpms @ 55 MPH. The Phasers seem to work fine with the 5W30 in it as well as my 3.5 Liter Ford engine.

[@ranger178]

dam electrical problems i wish there was an option to get a new 1990 vintage car without all this crap they have today

[@litz13]

Hence why I still have my Jeep after 320k miles. Very easy to fix.

[@shack_67]

You saved me today Ray.......bad battery terminal under the factory shrink wrap. Intermitant issues, just kept at it and figured it out

[@williambrownjr2346]

The customer brings their car into you, you "fix" the crank case sensor with a simple "click". How much more would it have cost the customer to replace the left rear wheel sensor? I just can't imagine driving the car with the antilock brake light on, you spent the time to find out what was wrong and don't spend the extra few dollars to fix it! Makes absolutely no sense to me.

[@randybeard6040]

In this current Time in America, many people are having a hard time making it from one pay check to the next, especially the younger generation....

[@sheerwillsurvival2064]

Your critical thinking skills are off the charts great job sorting out all those problems from simple to more complicated

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[@Fluffy_Vizier]

Soo I'm in quarantaine right now, and I guess I've watched so many of your videos at this point that I just caught my self going bedoo bedoooo bedoo.

[@chevinbarghest8453]

We have 5 computers at home and I run W10 64 bit on all of them...coz that way it allows me to compare... same principle as switching spark plugs around and wheel sensors .... Super video !!!!!

[@bmoore3199]

I've been subscribed to your channel for several months now. Your problem solving analytical skills are refreshing. So much better than many "technicians". You make the profession look professional indeed. Great video sir.

[@TheEmeraldNight]

I also hate giving items back to customers without knowning what was wrong, done many free hours just for my own piece of mind :) Keep up the great work.

[@MH-wg6bz]

In my old telephone days, we called that test of swapping components a "frog", if the component had connections at both ends and we wanted to swap the middle section, we would switch the connections at both ends. We called that a "double frog" Also one of the best techniques to find intermittent problems.

[@Torsee]

Ribit!

[@Funkylogic]

Just love your posts Ray, your energy and wonderful candor, you make me feel 30 years younger!!!

[@HypocriticYT]

Those lower under drivetrain panels are like coasters for your glass, they only catch leaks so you won’t take it back for warranty work if you notice leaking

[@txpawpaw52travels]

Swapping a possible bad with a known good is something I did in my work. If problem follows part, then the part is faulty. Good video.

[@nourbutwatmi]

A real joy watching a Pro at work.

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Good thinking outside the box on wiring the bad wheel bearing to the passenger side good circuit for quick verification

[@cane_nation3633]

I was a Mechanic about 20yrs ago, got out of the he business after working for a couple of dealerships. Didn’t care for how they treated the costumers.

[@AlCatrraz]

Using LOGIC is many times better than usual procedure!

[@44hawk28]

Blending oil most certainly does work. Because non-synthetic oil is that way all the time. It is a blend of different thicknesses of molecular chains. Synthetic oil has only been through a process where all the molecular chains would be equal to 30 weight in length for instance. If he was mixing different brands of oil that is a horrible idea because some oil doesn't play nice with other types of oil. But you are correct in the fact that you shouldn't do that that should be him doing that.

[@tvideo1189]

The chemical engineer was right Ray, you CAN blend oils. I have never heard of quite the conglomerate he wanted with all those different viscosities, but blending does indeed work just as he computed.

[@keithlarge1151]

My theory is that if this was feasible or sensible the oil companies would have already done that..as a racer there are oil manufacturers that offer"special "racing oils that are veeeerrry expensive and extremely thin to cut windage drag...it has a very low usage time so why would someone want to do something similar to a daily driver because the risk would be more than the reward

[@micro13989]

Good video, a great example of problem solving. The location of the camera and you walking us through the problem makes this a great way to learn.

[@kevindb4632]

im in indiana did the same job as you and i watch your channel because i never get tire of the shit customers say or try to pull dont know why it nevers gets old and ive been retired 15 yrs now lol

[@likeanyothernot]

Exelent job , as usual. One think I would recommend is to try the right weel sensor with the left side cables, because you check and know, that the left weel sensor is folty and right weel sensor and cables are fine, but you didn't check the left side cables are all right (they might be busted as well as the sensor) . Anyway - ceep on the good work, you are awesome!

[@crystalminotaur]

I'm currently studying to become a mechanic. Your videos are really informative and I hope a "real world" view of the work that is different from all the car mod/building channels out there. Keep up the good work!

[@cyanidebill]

I just had an explorer that was going 158… so mine would have won in a race! I always advise the other side on the Kia/Hyundai will fail, in short order. I just did a Kia Sorento with a wheel speed sensor, told the guy to be ready for the other one, he came back three days later with abs light and said I didn’t fix it… it was now the other side. They wear pretty evenly.

[@job38four10]

You did that wheel speed sensor test so good and simple that even I could understand it. I hope future mechanics wanna-be's are watching this, your skill-set and honest ethical personalities are rare in todays society.............

[@yachticus]

Ray - outstanding sense of optimism - with some retail clients they will test your patience - So many "Karens" around

[@danielbutler578]

Your story about the chemical engineer with his different oils that he wanted to mix was quite interesting. I had a 2014 Nissan Sentra that I bought new. The dealer gave me a 2 year service package and they used the recommended 0W-20 oil. I noticed that once the engine was warmed up it would rattle if it idled for more than about 5 minutes. After the service period ended I upgraded to 10W-30 oil and noticed that the engine quit rattling, my gas mileage improved, and I noticed considerably better acceleration. It was still running great at 127,000 miles when it was totaled by a Great Pyrenees dog.

[@kenc2257]

Great job diagnosing/troubleshooting that left-rear sensor. Too bad the client didn't decide to make the appropriate repair (weird decision...that can't be an expensive part for a Kia--probably less than $50 +labor). [but we viewers appreciate that you're willing to go the extra mile]

[@3lat3guitarh3ro]

9:48 the best phrase of our time.

[@pastyman3247]

Love the way your mind works problem solving. It's logic at it best.

[@Butchcub75]

0W16 GF A and B. Used for direct injection plus turbo charging. Helps with upper lubrication and helps reduce oil consumption (like on Honda 1.5 turbo GDI engines).

[@motyenoham2949]

I shook a bottle of 0W8, it was like water! (I worked at an auto parts store)

[@timg8138]

When it's realistically possible, I like to prove what the issue is 2 different ways as well. When I can plug in a truck stock part without having to fully install it, I feel like that is a sold way of confirming my diagnosis and determine if there are any other issues further down the sequence of operation.

[@genesloan3175]

You did a good job educating us shade tree mechanic on diagnostic end run...

[@sfeddie1]

Had the same symptoms on my 2000 Ford Ranger 4 cylinder. Intermittent long crank/no start or long crank/start after having the water pump replaced. Brought it back to the mechanic and they found “The crankshaft sensor was not in alignment.” Didn’t know it could get out of alignment, but they fixed it.