Someone Stole Shaq’s MVP?! 🤯

How did a scrawny point guard from Canada steal Shaquille O'Neal’s MVP?
Shaq was the most dominant player we’ve seen since Wilt Chamberlain
He dropped 30 points and 10 rebounds on the regular.
But in 2005 Shaq met his match...
180 pound point guard Steve Nash
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[@sweney7103]

He took a team from 15 wins to the best team in the league in a single season. That’s the MVP

[@markelscott100]

U forgetting about amari and marion it wasnt just him

[@2011super]

Teams used to throw to get a good draft too tho

[@thebasketballhistorian3291]

@@markelscott100 Amare and Marion were on the team the season before when they only won 15 games. They needed Nash to unlock their talent.

[@ladiesman987456321]

29 wins

[@ladiesman987456321]

@@thebasketballhistorian3291 and post nash they produced 1 all star appearance.

[@ojsimpson.]

Phoenix had like a 40 win turnaround with pretty much the same team plus nash. Nash was the most valuable player in 05-06. You can make an argument for 06-07

[@targalis8772]

koke should have won mvp in 06-07 and i have a nash jersey in my closet

[@bimapriambada1098]

@@targalis8772 nah, it would be Dirk or LeBron. Kobe was 4th place for MVP race in that season so it's not him if Nash didn't win for MVP.

[@Jory31619]

​@@targalis8772 Dirk Nowitzki won the 06-07 MVP guys

[@lukamagicgod]

04-05

[@acjnse8258]

@@targalis8772 that’s cool and all, Nash still deserved his MVPs

[@fwlilzay]

Love how shaq stays bringing up Kobe in everything kobe truly lives through us and in his brother shaq 😊. Rip Kobe man can’t wait to finally meet you In heaven

[@jamesmacker]

Bad news for you man, you're not going to heaven

[@fwlilzay]

@@jamesmacker you must not believe in heaven ?

[@kitothekito915]

Why so pessimistic

[@jamesmacker]

@@fwlilzay I don't believe you are going to heaven

[@marc3l_99]

@@jamesmacker u dont know him

[@salvell]

This man earned his MVP he didn’t have as much talent as the rest of the Players he made Amari Stoudermire

[@thefaceofunemployment1373]

Then why didn’t Stockton win MVP. He made Karl Malone.

[@connorhind8907]

@Selven Handy this is an awful take about Amare. Amare was more capable than you give credit and simply complimented Steve Nash really well. He didn't "make" Amare.

[@armandr1613]

@@thefaceofunemployment1373 Prime Malone was more versatile than a young Stoudemire but to your point Stockton did contribute a lot to Malone's success.

[@sydneystroud4397]

The same Amare who won rookie of the year. Amare who still was a capable player with Knicks. Also, this team had Shawn Marion, Joe Johnson, and Quentin Richardson. There was a lot going on with this team.

[@judahwatcher1140]

He didn't make nobody.. Amar'e Stoudemire was the best player on the team .. u guys turned Rubio or Nash numbers to MVP 🤣 Nash didn't deserve either of those mvps.. although he did help making the suns much better.. What's crazy is the privilege he has to get nets coaching job over all the experienced coaches.. Durant and Kyrie wanted him fired maybe Harden too ... Nash was a good player no doubt but those years he didn't deserve those MVPS period..

[@Milordvega]

Nash was not a failure in Dallas. He was twice an All-Star and All-NBA Third Teamer. Plus he was only 30 when he returned to Suns (where he started his career) in 2004. Not quite an “aging point guard.” Shaq helped Miami Heat go from 42 to 59 wins, but Nash led Suns from a record of 29-53 the year before without him to an NBA-best 62-20 in 2004-05 with him. Shaq’s impact with Heat was great, but Nash’s impact was even more impressive. I think Nash’s 2nd MVP the year after (2005-06) was the the more doubtful one, as that was the season that Kobe averaged 35 ppg and scored 81 In one game as a one-man army for the Lakers. Dirk and LeBron also had greater seasons. But in 2004-05, I think it was Nash who fully deserved it.

[@user-gi6rn7st1o]

Nash was a team player, Kobe is just a ballhog

[@crudojoshuaricofort8795]

​@@user-gi6rn7st1oKobe was a ball hog? His teammates were dogshit... When kobe pass them the ball, they either brick the shot, fumble and commit a turnover, or they would just pass the ball back to kobe because they dont have any dog in them. Kobe would not become a "ball hog" if his team was good... They were all garbage... He had to play with g-league players as teammates...

[@trumpetking11]

Steve Nash was not a failed experiment in Dallas. Mark Cuban was just being cheap and ended up making the worst decision during his ownership of the Mavericks.

[@jayybiggaveli6632]

Can’t be the worse decision if Dallas got a chip how many rings do Steve Nash have ? Okay like he said failed experiment

[@trumpetking11]

@@jayybiggaveli6632 You think the Heat beat the Mavericks in 2006 with MVP Nash on the roster to go along with Dirk? I’m not saying it’s impossible but it definitely makes for a compelling argument.

[@Coldskin1]

@@trumpetking11 na nash stoled that mvp from dirk and duncan, he was still far from being the actual best player from the league. plus nash ain't doing sheet to wade

[@fica1137]

​@@Coldskin1what the hell are you talking about? First Nash season Shaq was 2nd in very close race while others weren't even close. Second MVP season Lebron was 2nd and likely would have won if there was no Nash

[@overtimenh5824]

Most people forget that MVP stands for Most Valuable Player not best player. Not saying shaq didn't deserve it.

[@kookou13]

Nope. It really stands for "most valuable player that doesnt have winners fatigue and if that team he is on has a high winrate this year."

[@itskalbtw]

@@kookou13 it's always the "winners fatigue" argument lol, y'all say it like it's another LeBron>Rose all over again, value is different from individual performance

[@kookou13]

@@itskalbtw only ignorant and naive "fans" dont believe that the winners fatigue plays a part in the mpv race. If winners fatigue wasnt a thing then lebron should of won atleast 4 mvps in a row. However if we want to base it only on value then kobe should of won it from when nash did. Since without kobe on lakers team they probably wouldnt even have 10 wins not to mention his individual performance was higher than eveyone else in the league.

[@markelscott100]

@@kookou13 exactly lebron was supposed to be a 6 time mvp

[@joeschmoe6908]

@@kookou13 if we base it on value to the team AI would have won every year he was with philly

[@broannoying8765]

I love whenever Shaq wants to shut Chuck off he takes out his Rings but gets so salty when the MVP talk comes up

[@alanyulo2911]

Definitely no one can deny Nash’s value to that team…coz no one expected for Phoenix to become a number 1 seed that season…thus earning him his MVP plum

[@thebasketballhistorian3291]

MVP = value player has to a team It's not a "best 1-on-1 player" award. 😅

[@cruelsun1227]

Huh thats weird cuz I thought MVP = Most Valuable Player. And if you look up the actual definition of MVP. In team sports, a most valuable player award, abbreviated 'MVP award', is an honor typically bestowed upon an individual whose "individual performance" is the greatest in an entire league, for a particular competition, or on a specific team. Which is why most if not all mvp awards in the nba were given to those who were averaging 25-30ppg with 12-15rpg if you a center or pf with the exception of steve nash he was the first and only guy to average less than 20 points and still get an mvp award because he had alot of hype back then. And If you really think shaq and kobe were just "1 on 1 players" then they wouldnt have gotten 9 rings in total lmao. Steve nash has 0. Sometimes being too much of a team player doesnt = winning.

[@DrugzMunny]

This video leaves out something quite crucial. 11.5 APG was the most assists that anyone in the league had averaged in 10 years since '95 Stockton. He also shot 50/43/88 that year. Do you suppose his sub-20 PPG had something to do with the fact that he was helping his teammates score? To suggest that 2005 was Shaq's year to win MVP is a little strange when you consider that his PPG, RPG, and BPG were higher in almost every single previous season that he played. 2005 was statistically the worst season of his career up to that point. Also, the Heat had 59 regular season wins and then Suns had 62 regular season wins. Like, the Suns had the #1 record in the league. And Shaq missed 3 more games than Nash.

[@blockstar551]

One of Nash’s MVP a I think KOBE a was averaging 35 point per game

[@davitjaniashvili]

But kobe was 6 th seed. steve nash didnot have his second option amare stodumaire but still won 54 games in very very strong west. i think in 2006 you cannot say nash did not desrve. i think lebron, nadh and kobe three of them were great and all of them deserve

[@andrewlarson7]

Everybody points to this as the year Nash robbed Kobe. Problem is, Kobe finished 4th in MVP voting. Even if Nash doesnt win, it goes to Bron or Dirk

[@alalal123421]

@@andrewlarson7 yeah bec of bs drama

[@alvin081988]

2006 was not Kobe's year for MVP...it may either be Lebron or Dirk

[@adammonteiro7189]

@@davitjaniashvili Kobe's teammates were complete garbage though. His best players were kwame brown and smush parker. Thats disgusting. if you replace kobe with a solid but not great shooting guard, that team wins 20 games at most

[@henryzhao4622]

It’s a regular season award, it doesn’t mean anything .

[@danielcubillasvaldez1784]

Dwyane Wade was the MVP of the heat that year.

[@jackbombay1423]

Shaq NEVER averaged 30 ppg in his whole carrer during regular season. And Shaq averaged 22.9/10.4 the year Nash was awarded his first MVP. Shaq is WRONG! (as you are).

[@chris.tanaya]

💯

[@LeongGunners]

His failed experiment in Dallas? What are you talking about? I always thought him and Nowitzki were a wonderful duo with the Mavs.

[@lorddane4147]

They were, it's just that in the playoffs something would fail for the Mavs. Like Dirk getting injured. That's why I believe he valued it a failed experiment.

[@Steve_305]

Commentary is being biased on that pitty move on his part

[@supachef_dmoney_4]

He says that like he didn't have a whole ass Dwayne Wade

[@quincyjordan4301]

Steve Nash is actually from South Africa

[@chad_b]

He's still Canadian. He moved to Canada when he was less than 2 years old

[@X02Overdose]

Hes still Canadian

[@damiantreat7929]

In hindsight those suns teams are one of the 2 most responsible for where the game is at today (2nd being the mid 2010s warriors) like it or not, nash and company changed basketball.

[@syncmonism]

There is an unwritten rule that if you won the MVP award in the previous year, then you basically won't win the award again unless you're just obviously better than everyone else. Even still, Nash really did not deserve this award over Shaq or Kobe. I say this as someone who grew up in Nash's home town. There was a certain amount of pride in seeing Nash win, but he REALLY didn't deserve it. I know it's boring to give the same award to the same one or two players for multiple years in a row, but it's only fair.

[@jacobmudd8024]

Nobody else in history was as efficient a shooter as Nash. He got at least 50% FG, 40% 3pt, and 90% FT 4 years out of 5, and only missed getting 5 in a row by .1% on free throws shooting 89.9% in 06-07. No other player in history has gotten more than 2. Larry Bird and Kevin Durant both did it twice. Also he was the best and most consistent point guard in the league for the early 2000’s. 8 all star selections, 7 all-NBA teams, including 3 first team selections, 5 time assist champion. We haven’t seen a ballhandler as good in a decade. Plus his team was very good when he played.

[@acdcdave1387]

Nash was an amazing point guard, arguably a top 5 at that position (definitely at least top 10). He had a pass first mindset, opportunistic scorer and always gave it everything on the court. He's also arguably one of, if not the, greatest shooter in NBA history. He's the only person to 50/40/90 four times, in fact he was only 1% off of averaging 50/40/90 for his whole career (49/43/90). It's a shame he didn't win a championship but that's a team accomplishment and he was never the one holding a team back. Shaq is awesome but so is Nash

[@kaiydo1544]

Shaq and Kobe’s mvps

[@robbybubble5348]

💯%

[@Dom2.0]

Exactly. The voting has to change its just too biased these media members that get to vote be too in the feels there's a reason a guy like bron who speaks up on political issues ONLY has like 4 mvps when dude dominated the league for so long its out of hand.

[@samraizshoaib585]

Not Kobe. Dude finished 4th in the MVP voting.

[@Dom2.0]

@@samraizshoaib585 that's the problem. Media didn't like dude so they didn't vote for him he was tearin that season up

[@michaelmaccrazy]

Nah...it was Nash's. You're just bitter that your favorite player didnt win it.

[@omarnovela9948]

yup Shaq is right! The Great White Hope is what happened. Nash did deserve 1 of those MVP's but not 2.

[@Frybred88]

🔥🔥🔥🔥 This man was amazing to watch along with White Chocolate.

[@uncledrew4277]

Nash obviously earned that mvp. Shaq was just butthurt lol.

[@18magicMARKer]

Aging? Nash? He was younger than shaq and was in his prime

[@Jory31619]

Yes dude knows shit

[@TheShachattack13]

People forget how ridiculous that phoenix offense was because of how much offense has spiked league wide over the last 10-15 years. Phoenix averaging 110 points in 04-05 is the equivalent to a team today averaging 130 ppg

[@randomthoughts8346]

its not all about stats but how they play

[@markdwighttadina7655]

Because ball movement matters.

[@louel9272]

Shaq doesn't know what MVP means. It's not all about numbers. Otherwise players will just stat pad their way to winning the award.

[@king96300]

You do know that Steve Nash played for Phoenix before dallas

[@cptsketch13]

D'antoni's system is why the Suns were that good. There's a reason Nash was only that good with 1 coach.

[@wolfkiller5451]

He was pretty good on the mavs he just hit his prime with the suns

[@purplepanther3585]

Then why did the suns fail to reach the playoffs before nash?

[@cptsketch13]

@@purplepanther3585 Nash got there the same year D'antoni became the headcoach full time. The season prior d'antoni took over in the middle of the season.

[@wolfkiller5451]

@@cptsketch13 the whole system take is stupid when you realize that their usage rate is giant and how did I make him when he was the main ball handler???

[@AlstonMurray2005]

He was an all star on the Mavs bruh

[@link6606]

yous should do a video about the players drafted before tony parker !

[@Zach_Ravel]

Garnett or LeBron should have won MVP that year, not Shaq or Nash.

[@Coldskin1]

garnett missed playoffs💀even still ain't no fing way you telling me nash was ever better than wolves 2000s garnett

[@AsapSteph]

The phoenix team was great but Kobe or shaq should have gotten the mvp. Steve Nash is my second favorite player of all time so I’m not trying to hate on him.

[@mrbean3470]

Nash was not as good of a player, but the Suns were the story of that season, chiefly because of his running of the 7SOL offense.

[@judon4908]

Something's wrong with that picture!

[@torywhite9065]

This makes you question what it even means to be the MOST VALUABLE PLAYER. Is it changing the teams wins over losses? Is it how many assists you get? Or is it being the best player in the league?! When has anyone ever said Steve Nash is the best player this season?!? Best point guard would be more arguable the MVP of the league. It doesn’t make sense

[@michaelh7125]

Back to back MVP's

[@mateomagana392]

He also stole Kobe’s MVP as well

[@juliangarcia1221]

Kobe was the 7th seed and Nash didn't have Amare the whole season

[@Coldskin1]

And marion still avg more points, best defender on the team and had more win shares in 2006. There where a more than 7 players that did more for there team than nash(winshares)

[@Coldskin1]

@@juliangarcia1221 even chancey billups could of won mvp thats how bad the voting was back than. Both spurs and mavs had more wins than suns in 06.

[@pedroaugustocosta2533]

Dirk and LeBron deserved more

[@michaelmaccrazy]

@@Coldskin1 Everything went through Steve Nash at the time. The fact you mentioned Shawn Marion is tragic on so many levels.

[@unboxingdoomdays5949]

Something is wrong. Yup

[@user-gi6rn7st1o]

Nash bring the Phoenix in the League for 60 wins, imagine that Shit

[@justincarreras7753]

D’Antoni had more to do with that turnaround than Nash. Nothing against Nash… HOF player and All Time great PG. But he kinda ruined the criteria for judging MVPs IMO.

[@Flexilistic]

Using footage of Shaq crying about losing kobe and his sister than editing it with the GTA wasted sound… you are a sucker for that

[@OJ-1Kenobi]

Funniest part is Nash didn’t even win mvp his best year.

[@sleepyjayplays5489]

Let’s be real. I get it, but you have to understand how good he would’ve made the other teams as well. A REAL pass first player than can run the floor would’ve been great for any team at the point in time. So even if he wasn’t the best, he had the best value.

[@Twomps]

Nash licked his fingers before free throws. I want you to know that if you were unaware

[@Jory31619]

And never made an NBA finale

[@nathanisbig8422]

*stole Tim Duncan's mvp (he was second in mvp voting both years)

[@Coldskin1]

mavs got cheated out of the standings and finals in 06 mavs had a better record than the suns but the top seeds are only giving to the place of the division, the mavs where in the same division as the spurs

[@leonconnelly5303]

Why are you acting like we don't know Steve Nash bruh

[@richardpena3560]

Steve nash

[@calvinsimpson1301]

It's one of those mvps where Shaq definitely makes sense. But we can't ignore the 15 and 11 on ridiculously efficient shooting and turning around a trash team to a #1 seed. I think their records played into it a lot

[@Coldskin1]

not impressive when you got a player 26 and 9 and 19 and 11 and other playing avging 17 points. 2004 murbury was traded half way the season and amare missed 25 games. clearing not carrying the team on his own to say he mvp

[@calvinsimpson1301]

@@Coldskin1 Nash was the 2nd leading scorer at 18.8 ppg shooting 51% fg and 44% 3pt and 92% from the line for his 2nd mvp. Had a 50/40/90 season without his leading scorer. The season you're referring to Steve Nash got there, they went 62-20 his first year after going 29-53 the previous year before he got there. They had an almost identical starting lineup with Marbury, Amare, Joe Johnson and Shawn Marion. With Nash, all of those players scored more and scored more efficiently. So yes, he clearly made a massive impact

[@Aquajoda]

And the year after he stole Kobe's MVP. Kobe averaged 35.4 ppg which was the highest we've seen since Jordan and Wilt and still top 10 highest average ever. Same season he scored 81. Had 2 60-point games, 6-50 point games and like 27-40 point games. Kobe deserved that one 100%

[@jasondihal1883]

Why did he blurr out Steve Nash like we don’t know who he was 😂

[@illWillienumber31]

It's more of a crim that Nash won the second over Kobe and Lebron. In 06 Nash won MVP and wasn't even the best player on his team.

[@omarifrance2576]

Then who was

[@GuinDog4]

Using that vid of Shaq crying is uncalled for.. man was crying for Kobe and his sister and you used it as a joke. Shame on you

[@jonathansykes4986]

Allen Iverson stole Shaq's MVP. Steve Nash stole Dirk's / KG's MVPs.

[@lanagorgeous9485]

He did not steal it, he was amazing that year and took a like 20 something win team to 60 wins and boy his payback when he met Dallas in the playoffs was criminal the way he misued them. If Shaq would have stayed in shape instead of getting lazy and fat he would have won more MVP's

[@lotsamacha1112]

Lol when you play with the second best shooting guard in history you don't get to feel entitled to win MVP all the time. Fans who understand basketball know why Nash has two MVPs

[@fica1137]

DWade is 2nd best shooting guard?

[@JohnSmith-oe5kx]

Shaq did not deserve as many votes as he got in 2005, Dirk was FAR better that year. And Shaq was even worse in 2006 (and he did not get a single vote).

[@Kcazbarach]

"failed experiement in dallas," what? they got to the WCF and probably get to the finals in 03 if dirk doesn't get injured.

[@michelbelsches7975]

Nash was good, but not a two time MVP! That's a story the sports networks, wanted to die.

[@eflex8543]

?

[@blackhand8299]

The guy carried a struggling franchise and he wasn't even the best...

[@michaelmaccrazy]

For a three-year span, he really was that good. And he deserved his two MVPs. If you actually watched the Suns, you'd know that everything went through Nash...literally everything.

[@ardie1987]

Nash deserved every bit of those two MVPs

[@andregordon2599]

Nash is one of the best Point Guards in NBA history. I'm Canadian so im biased, but im still right lol

[@Jamessmoke1]

He was white 😂😂😂

[@pablorivera5495]

He’s right tho

[@field-expediance2697]

NOBODY COULD HOLD THE SHAQUILLE .

[@Jory31619]

He scored 22 not 30 has before.. Even Wade scored more that season

[@BlessedWithLuck]

How would a players contribution to his team being good outweigh the stats of the individual player that played best that season?

[@Twomps]

How wouldnt it? Basketball is a team game.. The most valuable player should contribute most to their team. The best individual doesn't always make their team better because they can be selfish.

[@BlessedWithLuck]

@@Twomps because it’s the most valuable player? Lol. Of course teamwork and making your teammates better and your team wins matter but that shouldn’t factor over what an individual does for the season.

[@ethannewberry1053]

Imagine Mj with a dominant center

[@billymarino5181]

Not sure how I feel about this using a clip of Shaq crying while giving Kobe’s eulogy to joke about him being sad about him not winning MVP. Slightly tasteless imo

[@jasonwells7354]

Surprised Tom petty didn't have any game considering the family ties😉

[@techbug6436]

Well, Steve Nash was a basketball player... Shaq was, i don't know what he was but when you say "dominant" that's not something what you can learn or practice it, it's what you are born with. So fuck that. I respect work and all around plays not genetic roulette and doing pretty much noting related to basketball...

[@mathieug.4064]

Duncan was the true MVP

[@JoelGarcia-lu3tw]

He didn't steal it

[@xavierforsyth7350]

Nash deserved neither of his rings.

[@Eric-lx8hp]

Shaq doesn't seem to understand the difference between a MVP AND MOP

[@nysom3356]

Wdym by mop

[@Enlightened_SpursFan]

most offensive ☠️

[@michaelmaccrazy]

Neither do Kobe fans.

[@rudykadous4005]

Kobe got robbed in 06 fa sho and shaq got robbed in 05 Nash didn't deserve nadda

[@omarifrance2576]

Thats not true

[@liambabcock7350]

It's most VALUABLE player not best player

[@blockstar551]

Yes we all knew this the nba got this one wrong very wrong

[@awc6007]

2005 was acceptable. 2006 was robbery. Should have been Kobe’s.

[@rickyharris2896]

Kobe was the 8th seed lmao. Nash didn't even have Amare Stoudamire and still got to the 1st place in the west. 2005, Shaq should've won it but 2006, Nash deserved it for sure

[@nature-kv3xe]

@@rickyharris2896 no Nash didn't that team was great

[@TheGamingShogun]

even if nash didn't win it would've went to lebron and if lebron didn't win it would've went to howard. kobe was a low seed and lebron beat him in nearly every statistical category and adv stats while having a significantly better record with a subpar roster. kobe defintely wasn't winning mvp

[@michaelmaccrazy]

Can you name another MVP winner with fewer wins with a playoff seed as low as the Lakers in 2006? Didn't think so, Kobe fans never understood that part.

[@nairdasamek7657]

7 seconds or less..

[@aquariusmind1512]

Lol. This guy said Shaq met his match. Nash ain't Yao and Yao wasn't even really a match for Shaq. We all know why Nash stole his M.V.P

[@davidwilliamson2341]

I agree 100% the other year Kobe was 35 + points a game and did finish 4th LeBron was 30 or 31 a game Dirk had an amazing year and I agree with you 100% why that happened and when I seen it back then I was blown away. I thought it was the worse pic in the history of the NBA both years Nash was a little water bug and he did help make Stoudemire a stud but they also didn't make it to the final either year either!

[@samraizshoaib585]

@@davidwilliamson2341 Kobe was on a 6th seeded team man. He wasn't going to win either way.

[@davidwilliamson2341]

Thanks kobe was 4th l know all that it was the worst pic in the history of the NBA and Nash wasn't even the leading scorer on his team shawn Marion was I know all that. Nash averaged 18.3 points and something like 11.6 assists LeBron average 30 or 31 that year and was second Dirk and D Wade also had good years I'm not a LeBron fan I do like Kobe everyone during that time knows why Steve Nash was picked I'm not going to say it because I'm not going to stir up anything. I don't know that Shaq should have but it sure shouldn't have been Steve Nash because there was plenty of players to pick from . Just my opinion I just remember it very well. I was just Blown Away about it and remembered it very well.

[@bobbydigital5236]

Nash was balling during that time. He did play like an MVP.

[@sachievargas4551]

yep, tbh something's really wrong in that picture 😂. But yea, that's why in the All time great rankings, not just individual acollades is thoroughly examined, yep, Chips matter!!!

[@robertjohnmarcella263]

no rings

[@maartenvz]

1. Nash was 30 that season, that's usually the peak of the prime for most players, not exactly aging. 2. Dallas a failed experiment? Hadn't made the playoffs for 8 years when Nash (and Nowitzki) arrived and went on to 2 second rounds and 1 WCF. Yes, the 2004 season was a failure (playing Antoine Walker so much was a big mistake by Nelson). Nash to Phx was a great story but you could argue that Marion was just as valuable to the team. But the same can be said of Wade's value to Miami in 2005. It's too bad that the actual record of the team mattered that much as you could make great cases for Garnett and LeBron that season.

[@Coldskin1]

peak not really a lot of players fall off by that team

[@fica1137]

​@@Coldskin1Not MVPs, last 30 seasons average MVP age is around 29

[@darksunatra7701]

Haha the big dude is bitter. Only those who look at phase value will debate about Nash's MVP on 05-06

[@jakaro386]

Shaq deserved both tbh

[@omarifrance2576]

Nope

[@jakaro386]

Check stats @@omarifrance2576

[@YahuchananYakazqaalYashraal]

Nash was a team MVP Shaq was a league MVP Nash got it because he was white and the NBAs fanbase is white so it looks good for marketing

[@dwanyerice.-po4uf]

❤

[@marshalllapenta7656]

Nash might be 1 of the best to never win

[@fredrickmiller6534]

The idea that Steve Nash was better than Shaq or Kobe at any point of their respective careers is absurd. Especially since the Suns were playing Dantoni's fast break high scoring no defense basketball and Nash got to farm assists and freethrows. Laughable.

[@Coldskin1]

🤡 the fact clowns actually think steve nash was the best player in 05 and 06

[@gavintaylor7602]

Rigged 🤣

[@jasonmull5613]

Stupid comment

[@SayAhh]

Meaningless. MVP trophies are meaningless and so are championship rings. Health and happiness are the most important things.

[@gavintaylor7602]

@@SayAhh you coulda commented this somewhere else. When you’re talking ab basketball legacies that does matter🤣wtf

[@lewisf1935]

😭

[@veerchasm1]

No, Kareem was the most dominant big man since Wilt

[@bishopman2308]

Value to his team? How many championships did Nash win again?

[@pedroaugustocosta2533]

In 2005? And 2006? When Shaq was carried by DWade? Come on the FMVP exists for a reason

[@bishopman2308]

@@pedroaugustocosta2533 Shaq averaged 20 & 17 ppg the years you mentioned. In his 14th & 15th years in the league. Those numbers aren't put up by someone that got carried through anything. If Shaq had only averaged 5 points a game, then yes he was carried. Evidently you don't know shit about basketball.

[@terrymorgan5304]

MVP is a regular season award, dude. It has nothing to do with the championship.

[@user-ir7zd9li9d]

Shaq didn't make all that stuff in that single season and Nash made a team better for about .... hmm...... almost 40 wins! Basketball is not just dunking, because Gerald green should have won 5 mvps then!

[@user-ir7zd9li9d]

Oh, I forgot, shaq had about 30- points! OK, then! Nash had 15 points + 11×2 (and many assists were 3s) means 22+15= 37 points and I can think about him having more rebs than shaq assists! The only thing shaq was better was dunking

[@Oldscule62]

Shaq needed Kobe's work ethic and it wouldn't have happened.

[@Blackhwk13]

Nash turned average players into household names. Those Suns teams were a problem. Only Kobe with Phil Jackson could stop them

[@d3adyoutubeaccount]

That’s not true. Nash wasn’t even the main guy on his team

[@Blackhwk13]

@@d3adyoutubeaccount are you high my dude?

[@d3adyoutubeaccount]

@@Blackhwk13 What did he do outside of the Suns? Go watch the games, Stoudemire was the main guy. He lived off his coach. This is why he’s ringless as a “revolutionary” point guard.

[@Blackhwk13]

@@d3adyoutubeaccount alright bro

[@d3adyoutubeaccount]

@@Blackhwk13 Answer my question, what did he do? 0 rings.

[@michaelfaegane]

Nash Definitely deserved 2 MVP’s