Someone Who Needs a Bigger Gun Explains DRG Gunner

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[@icicle_ai]

Gunner's grenades: sticky grenade. Fire grenade. Cluster grenade. *_Gun grenade_*

[@Sir_Steven]

Cluster also known as "Grenade grenade"

[@JinFreeks]

Or: Stickynade, Firenade, Clusternade and Gunnade. Ok, honestly I was starting from Gunnade (which I find hilarious) and worked backwards from there. It didn't work out as well as planed.

[@Deeprockgalacticscout]

_nadenade_

[@sodapopcowboy8620]

MURICA!

[@matthews.a506]

Freedom nade

[@alexnefi]

Hey now, gunner's cluster grenade is not just a grenade. It's a grenade grenade.

[@marlonese]

The most DRG thing ever has to be hating the minigun at the start and then loving it when once you're a couple hundred hours in

[@haghendowdy4750]

when I came back to it I was a changed man

[@danteinpuro319]

Its so simple and yet so devastating

[@JoanLamrack]

this is my story exactly xD i don't like minigun back then, but after having ocs and starts playing on higher difficulty, i love minigun now

[@sakuyaizayoi8946]

burning hell for everything smaller than a dreadnought and the gun itself for the aforementioned dreadnought, minigun is a fun weapon

[@pewpewplasma3793]

Minigun has always been my fallback because it’s just so reliable. Of course I did cheat on it with the Thunderhead for a little bit because firing what is effectively a flak gun in your hands makes you feel like an explosive monster

[@trunchill]

to all my gunner mains out there this should ring a bell. You break all the dreadnought cocoons at once and put on the doom theme to soon kill all the dreadnought in a few minutes and down your teammates more than the bosses themselves.

[@Zynet_Eseled]

Kh fuck yes. Us gunners are required to do as much

[@BleakNote]

Probably the most accurate description of gunner ive heard. The most underrated class in DRG. Gunner IS the spine of the group.

[@DixieSchizo]

The only thing gunners excel at is damaging dreadnoughts They are a pretty boring and useless class

[@BleakNote]

@@DixieSchizo Try that on a haz 5 deep dive, those shields and extra firepower may seem boring but have saved my ass more times than i can count. But to each their own, i like speedy boy Scout the most.

[@Devilforce988]

@@DixieSchizo out of all the sessions I've done, the gunner almost often is the last one standing in the most f-ed situations and manages to rez the team back so highly disagreed.

[@greg-un7bk]

@@Devilforce988 for my situations, the driller that picked driller even tho I was driller, somehow manages to res someone and the person just wins the game for us

[@Devilforce988]

@@greg-un7bk driller is another good example cause most will run iron will and vampire with different melee builds

[@grievetan]

i find it ironic that the gunner in this game is the best healer with his shield

[@Baphelon]

It's funny, you are absolutely right, you'd assume it's not the case but Gunner is THE support class of DRG. Alone the Gunner underperforms on most mission types. They have no terrain manipulation, they're slow, and while zips are very useful you don't have enough to consider it a perfect option for every traversal challenge. But in a team, a Gunner worth their salt is the difference between a loss and a clutch victory

[@TheStarMachine2000]

Underperforms? Nah, he just lacks the versatility to be the fastest, but I have found him to be the most consistent in solo missions

[@carljohan9265]

3 teammates down to a bulk going of and the swarm is still going strong? Shield revive to the rescue! Also while ziplines are limited there are scenarios where they are the only tool that can open a path.

[@shinespark1007]

I think the gunner is very self-sufficient in solo missions. But I do agree that the mission rests upon the gunner's broad, muscular shoulders

[@JAMBUILDER08]

Everyone keeps forgetting that ziplines make great "move quickly down this cliff, the bugs are comming AAAAAAHHH!" tool for the whole team, DO NOT FORGOR.

[@deeznoots6241]

@@JAMBUILDER08plus good luck to any melee bugs trying to attack the guy slowly ziplining 50m above them an never going near any walls

[@Dingus_Khaan]

Since bugs can't get through the shield, I've taken to using it to temporarily plug up tunnels behind me while escorting Dotty or following the Driller to the drop pod. It's saved the team's ass on more than one occasion.

[@garrettruggiero7071]

that little trick has saved my butt so many times on hazard 5 missions. that same trick is great for controlling swarms, too! you can direct a swarm somewhat by using the shields offensively.

[@sakuyaizayoi8946]

you can use to plug the desperation tunnel to the drop pod and pray to karl you make it before they do

[@deeznoots6241]

Yeah the shield is more area denial than anything else

[@tamnker8465]

0:22 I love how even the slightly toxic players of drg are super polite. It's really refreshing coming from overwatch.

[@random-c7y]

I know :(

[@papahemmy8587]

Note about salvo: If you don't charge up rockets, but shoot them one at a time, you can still guide them. It's literally works as a clean oc.

[@ExplosiveT-5]

IDK if that is for me or any wayward comment perusers, but I actually knew that one. You’ll notice that I showcase the guided rockets and Salvo on the same mission.

[@randomnerd5807]

My finger says otherwise.

[@Razumen]

Yeah you can, but the firerate is atrocious.

[@Agent-472k]

2:37 As a twice promoted Gunner main I genuinely didn't know that was a thing either.

[@TheSpeep]

As a maxed out gunner main, holy shit neither did I. But I love it.

[@mendollo1773]

Tell me you are a green beard without telling you are a green beard XD

[@TheSpeep]

@@mendollo1773 I dont remember what we were talking about, but I literally have over a thousand hours in this game, and I didnt know either, so no.

[@mendollo1773]

@@TheSpeep it's a joke, I am only like 300 hours in too, I am a green beard compared to the real grey beard

[@benbot0733]

As a frequent user of the thunderhead, I see that animation quite often. Edit: okay, somehow I mixed up the thunderhead with the hurricane. I was talking about the missile launcher but called it the thunderhead because I couldn't remember the name.

[@Geowal]

As a driller I have experience fighting off the cops after burning down the orphanage

[@reformingrobot6875]

Excellent video, as a gunner player very accurate. Unlike my shots.

[@clockwerk9662]

As a solo, this class is your life blood, plus the coil gun is less of a secondary and more of second primary

[@daubeny6796]

Hell yeah. As a green beard I can tell other classes have better mobility, better single target damage weapon combos, and better area destruction, but he compensates with hard balance and survival provided by the shield. I Have completed multiple Haz4 missions with him without ever clutching while with most other characters it’s a constant clutch

[@bananaspice1967]

I love gunner's signature 'Cope Cage' since it increases his chance for a mate by atleast 40 percent

[@Yzorixul]

1:50 bunny-hopping (jump-shoot-jump-shoot) also works. Makes you look like a homicidal gummi bear. (damn, now i have that shows theme stuck in my head again)

[@confusedturtle183]

came here to say this, but you worded it so much better

[@bmobmo6438]

I love the cluster grenade purely for the voiceline my dwarf will sometimes say when I throw it: "I call this my grenade grenade!"

[@BobOrKlaus]

2:40 i also didnt know that was a thing, and its awesome that it is, so much attention to detail in this game

[@giantslayer9335]

That “you’re disgusting” almost sounded like a compliment

[@arepupu]

This was a nice introduction to Gunner; short and sweet hehe. Your editing and humour bring it all together though, well done! R&S!

[@pedrovictor4256]

The thunderhead autocannon is a bolter made for dealing with the nids, just like the emperor intended.

[@gaAssault34]

Always love your gunner folks. While your scout can find the way, driller can carve a path through the mines, and engie can fortify and hold. Its a gunner's job to be the Big Man. He will carry you and your team if you give him the support he needs. He will carve a path through the hordes and get you home.

[@MrDj200]

I didn't know the second secondary rips through dreads like that. Very curious indeed

[@morganlefey8631]

Your comedic timing is fantastic, love this video and I don’t even play this game.

[@bigiron1182]

Play the game you pointy eared leaf lover.

[@bobwasowsky270]

that's one thing to fix then

[@lunaticnomad0]

I love your recent DRG videos! Great video!

[@slyllamademon2652]

Ok the spike grenades are more complex than they look. They can make bugs run away when you stick them with the grenade and they do pretty good damage on top of that.

[@kaden-sd6vb]

fun fact: there was once a bug where with an autoclicker set to 1 click per millisecond, the minigun fired at approximately 100 ammo per second, or 50 actual rounds per second. this added up to a whopping 3000 actual rounds per minute(obviously you run out of ammo long before the minute mark). without rooting your feet to the floor. become A-10.

[@ruberine2086]

pretty sure that was patched a while back

[@HaxTheCharizard]

This got patched before you made your comment.

[@kaden-sd6vb]

@@HaxTheCharizard ah schet, ur right. Hadn't tried it in a while, My bad

[@MenacingBanjo]

4:27 that sneeze was the funniest thing I've seen all week. Thank you for leaving this in the edit

[@TheUndeadslayer221]

"...A glock that I found in the Costco parking lot" I am dead. Not big surprise.

[@jorisbonson1443]

I loved it when gunner said it's gunnering time and gunnered all over the place

[@thecrazypain9978]

1:36 You don't mention this, if you get used to bunny hopping, you can move while firing with Lead Storm, just jump, hold mouse one and right before you hit the ground let go, then you jump again and repeat, is also very useful tech normally as you normally get slowed down while firing, overall, bunny hopping can make this game a cake walk all on its own. Quick note, if you thought I meant stand still and hop, I can't...I-I can't help you

[@randomcontent789]

Uhh, minigun go brrr, Thunderhead go doosh, and rocket go zoom, followed by boom

[@Alex-ow6hk]

we fight the holy battle gunner mains, keep on rockin on.

[@Vincent_A.]

This video is amazing, you deserve way more subs!

[@Bronyboiiiii]

What I have discovered is that the gunners Railgun has the potential to be the most dps weapon in the game. You just need a driller to dig a loooong straight tunnel and the obliterate all enemys with your devastating beam of bug melting plasma. (Not recommended against dreadnoughts)

[@emgee2807]

Ziplines are very important on point extraction since there's a lot of carrying objects up from places

[@MiserableLunacy]

omg I laughed so hard, I need more of this content

[@kdg1237]

good video, man, i really enjoyed it still gonna play scout and only scout though

[@Ozymandias2x]

"It ain't a gun if it don't weigh at least one hundred pounds!"

[@tankingwithtigers136]

As a gunner main you got a lot right. But that said currently silver 3 I almost exclusively use the coilgun. Triple tech chambers stretches my ammo so far I almost never run out when I use the fire at any point in the charge mod in tier 2.

[@sakuyaizayoi8946]

triple tech magnetic flow hits different, for 15 ammo you can delete a cluster of enemies no problem or charge to full and deal the damage of 2 full charge shots for free

[@Phrostie]

Lead Storm Overclock negative can also be mitigated by just jumping everywhere like a bunny. You can shoot in the air, so essentially play CS:GO and b-hop everywhere to have no loss to your mobility.

[@boaz6346]

We just used ziplines to complete an entire elim mission by just floating above the bugs

[@discipleoftzeentch8384]

in warframe pistols are often the damage option of choice because promaries usually have much larger clear (and usually better ammo too), so DRG's design isn't quite so strange to me

[@paulpickett4522]

xD I love these videos! Just discovered you today. (Found the scout one first)

[@Storm_Crown]

So far my favorite Gunner build has been the minigun with the Burning Hell overclock, which spews fire out of the barrel in addition to bullets, and makes the gun overheat 150% faster, along with the Hot Bullets upgrade which causes your bullets to deal fire damage when you get to about half overheat, as well as increasing the overheat rate by an additional 50% for a total of 200%. This might sound bad because of how quickly you overheat, but not only does this allow you to light the entire room you are in on fire, but give it a few seconds and you can light the entire next room on fire too. To top all of this off is the revolver with the Volatile Bullets overclock, which decreases base damage by 10, but increase damage against burning targets by 300%. Since your main gun lights everything you get near on fire, this allows you to clear hordes, praetorians, and oppressors alike in a matter of seconds, light em up till they catch flame, 2 tap with the revolver. This build is especially good if the Driller is rocking the flamethrower, and Scout the flaming crossbow, so you can 1 tap big bugs without even needing to use the minigun.

[@sirrivle1635]

I use leadstorm for the bouncy bullets. I love looking at the walls full of holes once a swarm is done

[@ExplosiveT-5]

I would have used that Overclock... But I was too busy killing myself with it...

[@sirrivle1635]

@@ExplosiveT-5 I didn't know you could kill yourself with it, was honestly gonna go test that out. The bullets bounce into enemies behind you and strike you instead?

[@ExplosiveT-5]

Yes. Sorry for the mildly delayed response. KZbin doesn't notify me of replies to my replies... Anyway, I'll make sure to showcase it when I do my Gunner Overclocks in a couple weeks.

[@graveltheblock5578]

The good thing about having to rely on secondaries to deal more damage is basically spicing up gameplay. You'd think secondaries are just back-up weapons for when you need to reload or have no more ammo on primary. But in reality, secondary weapons perform secondary roles of the dwarf.

[@hydra3573]

I started playing as scout, then I switched to gunner and now main it. It’s so satisfying to burn hordes in so many different ways.

[@atigerclaw]

"I call it my GRENADE grenade!" *_One small apocalypse later..._*

[@EezeeEmporium]

Legends speak of a gunner who threw a cluster and didn't manage to exclusively hit their team

[@jetpoweredtricycle]

brt7 plus the pickaxe power attack go through dreadnoughts like it's nothing

[@rumplstiltztinkerstein]

Using the thunderhead autocannon I like to get larger ammo overlock, larger magazine, faster speed, even faster speed and armor penetration. Try it out. My magazine holds 220 bullets and it fires almost as fast as the minigun. It breaks through and obliterates enemies reallllly fast. Just the feeling of the camera shaking with how fast this gun fires while everything in front of you melts makes it my strongest weapon so far.

[@Lucaslove13]

What do you mean that burning down those orphanages doesn't count as combat experience? Those kids put up a good fight! - A driller main

[@Bendycam1212]

The cluster grenade is just a 20 for one special deal

[@NickMaovich]

Bless you

[@thetriple7-7-78]

Certified Driller: You forgot about the VERY enthusiastic use of explosives🧨 along with setting everything on fire.

[@scp_dr_lance711]

Best description ever. Better than Windette. As a Gunner you trade your knees for firepower. That's how equivalent exchange works.

[@cron1807]

Fun fact about the coilgun One of the overclocks allows you to do 2 more shots per shot. With electrifying trail. At the cost of your wrists.

[@sakuyaizayoi8946]

timing is forgiving enough, you can literally wait for the recoil after each shot

[@bretts6127]

Nothing has more hp than an Indiana Jones refrigerator

[@michaellemmons4759]

a revolver with no bullets, an autopistol with *all the bullets*, and the absolute last word in musket technology.

[@danteinpuro319]

Gunners grenades: sticky bomb, hot potatoes, we put a grenade inside your grenade, and *GUNADE*

[@katier9725]

As someone who mains both Engineer and Gunner, this video is very accurate.

[@JinFreeks]

To answer the main "question" that I recon is purely rhetorical but eh: The reason your sidearm (mostly) is the big boss killer is honestly very simple. Good game design. If you sidearms only function is to be used if you're main gun failed then ... why even have it. Make the game more about resource management and forgo the sidearm as a whole. Doom 2016 compared to Eternal did a great case study on that topic. And with limited weapon slots you'd want to have design space to make every slot count. Reducing one to a glorified "best to never use" slot is a massive waste of potential for gameplay alteration and player choice. But the main focus of the game is on killing lots of things, so it makes sense that most primaries are designed to be good at killing many bugs. They have to be ... "somewhat" bad at killing one large enemy tho for you to have a reason to switch out. And when you build both slots to be decent at killing hordes *and* killing single targets (which is possible) you'll find that in actuality all you did was hamper your ability to do either. Now you're slow at killing hordes and slow at killing single targets.

[@ExplosiveT-5]

I mean, yah. You are just correct. I feel like it is less relevant of a concept on Driller because of his ability to ignore armor and do damage to things on accident (and the fact that I use Face Melter and just hog all the ammo) but I arrived at the same conclusion as you.

[@rogerwashington7690]

"Sorry Drillers, burning down all of the orphanages in Chicago doesn't count as combat experience" GOLD

[@corruptedname8839]

i believe that one of the 3d modelers has said that the thunder head was based on the bofors cannon L/70. the bofors L/70 fired 40MM rounds but, in game its description says it fires .50 cal. the rounds in game seem to big to be .50 cal and more like 20MM. 20MM HE shells do exist like the M56A3.

[@TheSpeep]

Respect the Gun Grenade. Srsly tho that thing is kinda busted, not as amazing against tiny or some armoured targets, but it shreds grunts, macteras, unexpected cave leeches and most notably it ruins bulk detonators. I've actually seen a single one shred through most of the hp bar of an elite bulk detonator before.

[@Steir12]

They are kinda hit or miss. It can roll into tiniest crevice know to a dwarf and deal literally 0 damage or it can clean entire cave in a swoop. I personally dont like this unreliability.

[@Take22952]

The mini gun is the best Gunner primary.

[@thecripplingestofdepressio2686]

Based and depleted uranium pilled.

[@Take22952]

@@thecripplingestofdepressio2686 Hell yeah

[@alasdairsinclair916]

Gunner grenades in a utshell: "Show me dat Praetorian booty" Mandatory pick with volatile bullets Did you know you can destroy the magma core geysers with these? "Oops" _Dreadnought hiveguard spawns_

[@cardnal44]

Plasma grenade, arson grenade, the hostage destroyer, and the gun grenade

[@davidr3224]

It ain't a gun if it doesn't commit 3 war crimes in one mag

[@shantotto1wife519]

my grenade is a gun, it' a gunnade.

[@flix6561]

ah yes, the lovable gunner. Pings everything and mines nothing

[@ukspizzaman]

Mining is a waste of a good gunner. I play all classes, and I carry all the time when I gun. I mine what is in front of me, else not.

[@AtomicAlchemist]

Well, the gunner has the worst equipment for mining, no platforms to make a convenient ledge, no drill to get to the ore and no unlimited-use grappling hook to get to high up ores, just a few ziplines that move at 0,5 kmh

[@flix6561]

@@AtomicAlchemist It's a meme/stereotype in the community. You often see gunners ping nitra that they could mine themselves without even having to jump. An exageration of "I'm here to kill bugs and I will do nothing else"

[@embertillhawk8160]

what do you mean it doesn't count as combat experience? it's in chicago

[@littlehippos1]

Aggressive Venting: When your too impatient for a cooldown and want more MURDER

[@grebgrimpkit]

As a gunner player "Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr"- my gun

[@emmettblackburn8809]

You can bunny hop with leadstorm, helps

[@isaacgarcia9234]

Lead storm is the superior minigun overclock you can still move and shot if you learn de way of jump and shot.

[@direstorm7324]

Sticky grenade, fire grenade, grenade grenade, bullet grenade

[@dreamwalking]

2:36 people go on and on about how much they love the little rocket animation, but _this_ is my favorite animation in the game. I _adore_ it. And I almost _never_ get to see it, because I have to have completely expended my primary ammo in order to see it. I have to be half defenseless just in order to see a funny little animation, I can't afford to do that for long periods of time.

[@flyndutchmn]

I love the leadspray brtt!

[@madformuser]

I'd say gunner's secondary is the go-to single target weapon, the minigun and autocannon (haven't unlocked the rocket launcher yet) take time to spin up, and are pretty inaccurate.

[@robjsmiles]

If you don't have a source of fear try sticky nades on praetorians, they'll turn their butts at you for shooting. I use incendiary myself most of the time as I find it has the best killing potential when used right, DoTs are really good in this game. I strongly recommend trying fear on the autocannon or coilgun though. On AC you'll find it makes it easier to tame big swarms and have some of them them stop attacking you which is quite welcome on high haz. With the coilgun it's more useful for the team as it has a massive radius and is mostly guaranteed to fear anything that can be feared, so you could shoot it near a teammate in trouble from across the cave. I know neurotox payload is the overused gunner build, I'm a big bertha enjoyer myself. With the ammo, fire rate and direct damage upgrades it's both strong and never seems to run out! Explosive magic bullets bulldog can give you your neurotox fix, but I've been trying out hellfire coilgun lately for amazing AoE, like having more incendiary grenades, and to help wear down big targets all the faster

[@emmettblackburn8809]

Only use fear on nerotox payload, on all the other autocannon builds you just the bugs move away from the splash, nerotox slows them down and makes the fear last longer, because the fear makes them run from the blasts for i think 5 meters.

[@HAL1000]

ROCK AND STONE ......YEAAAHH!!

[@user-mp5fi7lq5d]

Me using mods so I can use any thing I want in any slot:

[@Johnnyb167]

Gotta love how easy it is to play gunner it's so straight forward if your new to the game. M1+W=WIN

[@DemonEater2012]

1:43 spoken like a true tech priest

[@TheKirBoi]

Nice, nice. Subbed.

[@user-dr9vv5yk1x]

i love it when gunner said its gunning time and gunned all over the place

[@catherder6552]

The Carry

[@ImDaRealBoi]

Gotta love DRG: the game where you wanna save your SECONDARY for DPS

[@BlahoMark15]

the fucking Glock at the Costco parking lot killed me. I had to pause cuz i was choking.

[@ED-gw9rg]

3:00 Best joke in the video imo

[@ernestovalle2892]

everyone hates gunners until they are all downed and he solos the entire wave

[@khirondb]

MINIGUN MASTER RACE

[@pseudogamer8848]

Well as much gunners are needed for some missions I find some greenbeards using that class don’t realize they have it and figured out sooner or later. Greenbeards, “oh wait what’s this 4th utility? Oh a shield…… should be placing it down when I revive my brethren’s instead of taking unnecessary damage.” The one thing I encounter so many times that I have to msg in chat “you have deployable shields, please use them to revive one of us!” and proceeds to not listen and we lose the mission because of the one greenbeard. I swear these days no one is playing in Solo to learn their classes, or the game, instead they join sessions that have Haz4 or 5 and they still can’t handle it… and the times they leave when they get downed too many times. If it’s an assignment of yours to be done why leave to do it all over again? So yeah I deal with them every single day but if they continue screwing over missions not using their shield, you are the reason we can’t complete the mission/assignment and end up gettin blocked from OUR sessions.

[@clonetrooper0426]

I often ran Gunner on solo missions, but recently began playing online. Due to me playing solo and having to use zip lines perfectly just to survive, teammates often use zip lines. Additionally, as a bastion main, I was very at home with overclocks that decrease mobility. As a silver 2 gunner main I can confidently say all statements in this are correct and the WOOooooOOoo rocket gun is fun. Though everything is fun in DRG to be honest. Except for cave leeches.

[@raphaellauf7786]

i need me that helmet right now

[@thesuperiorturtle]

I like the part where he said gun, and then gunned all over the place

[@dovahkiindragonborn6256]

Gunners got the fucken gunnade

[@newbert9287]

Hell yeah. I really like Gunner. Sure, all the other classes have their cool utilities and tools, but me, personally? I just want a big-ass gun. Can't go wrong with that.

[@Shedovv]

I swear his gunner armor choices make him look like a blocky Tau XV22 Stealthsuit, particularly the version used by the commanders in Dawn of War Dark Crusade and Soulstorm. Rather than Shadowsun's one.