I Will Quit Video Games If We Lose Physical Discs...

[@SomeOrdinaryGamers]

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[@MysticLGD]

Hello

[@Grantinator1]

Wassup

[@MARCM0DE]

Better be a man of your word Muta

[@OrgBrent]

Crazy.

[@SLNT0817]

Your mic is still bugging out btw muta. Help me make him aware of it xD

[@gamer-san8923]

Physical copies used to be so special. You get sweet freebies like stickers, map, a booklet, etc. I still buy physical copies of games but I just missed those things.

[@hurricane7727]

Older Ps2 Games have Manuals etc

[@Neoniq41]

@@hurricane7727 PS3 games used to as well

[@Rspsand07]

@@hurricane7727 Older Nintendo stuff like GBA/N64/Gamecube could have maps, manuals, posters, inserts and ads for other stuff, and even sometimes random hardware like headphones or wireless adapters

[@hurricane7727]

@@Rspsand07 I know that. I have a Gba but it doesn't work

[@ScotttheCyborg]

The game Ogre, a computer version of the board game, came with a real radiation badge. The stickers would change color if you were exposed. First they took our manuals away, then our disks, and now you can't play unless you're online. Shame they don't make LAN games anymore.

[@hyenalingo]

I do love that digital games have allowed for indie devs to launch games without having to have to deal with the logistics of physical distribution. But, i do also hate not owning anything i buy

[@hexoson]

100%. This is probably one of the few good things that have come from digital games.

[@banditbastard2585]

I miss my old Xbox live arcade games, licenses run out

[@terry.1428]

You will own nothing and be happy

[@DankManPlays]

And that is why piracy exists

[@alotofhoopla7624]

GOG

[@ARZZiO]

If we lose physical discs then the digital ones better cost less than 70 bucks or even 60 since game companies don't have to pay for making physical copies anymore If video game companies expect me to pay 70 dollars for their half-assed digital only games which they can always lock me out of playing for whatever reason then they are absolutely delusional

[@halodriver1362]

It'll be interesting to see how things sort out. The "biggest" games right now are free. So in an see one day even AAA titles can go free and just get funded via saas model ($12 a month) or fremium model funded by whales.

[@rayojordan2838]

Arzzio your comment doesn't stand because by the 3rd month the game comes out they have digital and physical sells...

[@rayojordan2838]

I do agree with you to some degree , yeah they can lock us out at any given moment, xbox 360 even if we have the 360 game disc we need internet cause the game downloads from the server. It won't play directly, and this is both on the xbox one, s , x, and series x ...

[@MalikethTheBlackBlade1]

Games should legit be $40-50 BRAND new if they're digital. I don't understand how they still expect customers to pay $60-70 for a digital game when you don't have the physical copy.

[@johnberg1348]

It's exactly what they expect. They also expect everyone that's been enabling them so far to bend the f'n knee. As they've done so far.

[@Blake_Aphra]

One of the best feelings is getting a game you want for christmas or your birthday when tearing off the wrapping paper, holding the game in your hands, and opening the box and slotting it into the console!

[@Fondoofus5542]

I know. There’s so many things that digital just can’t recapture that same feeling that physical can. Looking at the back, opening up the case with the manual and disc inside, looking through the manual before you play the game. All of it is gone.

[@dejuanhickman3175]

Bro that was back in the 90s and early 2000s those days are gone lol😂

[@Matty_UK]

​​@@dejuanhickman3175hose days are still very much here. I get games every birthday and Christmas still. So do many of my friends and their kids. Physical copies are way cheaper than digital, even at launch. I pay between £37 and £60 for games at launch while the digital versions are £60 to £120. I save a fortune over a generation.

[@Reptar530]

Don't forget the smell.

[@prophismusic]

eshop gift card same thing -nintendo

[@lopilkderlll]

As a movie lover, I feel your pain. I’m an avid Blu-Ray/DVD collector, and it saddens me to see how little discs are in big box stores now. The younger generations are almost exclusively exposed to what’s on streaming services, and there are so many incredible movies that don’t exist on those services.

[@accountid9681]

I feel for you, but honestly, movie preservation is a solved problem at this point, the analog hole is unsealable.

[@TobyWoby]

@@accountid9681 I wouldn't be too sure on that.

[@BeardedDragonMan1997]

There are so many websites with literally every movie tv show ect for free… hundreds..

[@ShadowMan64572]

Actually, us younger generations have things like the internet and easy access to any quality movie, but ok lol

[@thechugg4372]

​@@ShadowMan64572yeah he doesnt know the younger generation doesnt have the money to pay for streaming, its usually the parents that do, I know my generation was torrenting movie all the time.

[@M1551N9NOMER]

There’s no point in buying a game for such high prices if you can have the game taken away. (Edit) READ MY OTHER REPLIES BEFORE MAKING YOUR OWN, MANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ANSWERED. THANK YOU IN ADVANCE.

[@robertlafrance9974]

Fax bro

[@Pes._]

You can with disks too. OW2 for example

[@qwerty6789x]

"buying"? More like renting. The only digitally game you will ever own is the Pirated version

[@M1551N9NOMER]

Furthermore, modern games’ dependence on connecting to a online service just to run the game alienates an entire group of gamers that may be located in places with spotty/no connection.

[@Awesomespade3]

@@enterprisedavidcain all my ps4 games got taken away, So did all my DLc too. My friend rocky had his taken away as well sony stole over 1000$ of games and DLC from rocky.

[@conaillbyrne6385]

The thing is, video games are usually a really good birthday/Christmas etc. present. That's basically gone if physical copies are stopped

[@Anthropomorphic]

In that particular case, they'll probably be replaced with gift cards.

[@KameKai]

@@Anthropomorphici just got sad thinking that instead of getting my kid a game disc in a case i gotta give them a damn gift card

[@Jason-hx9pu]

JuSt GeT a GiFt CaRd

[@harinho6117]

You still can give games to people

[@Kt-hp7cv]

This is literally how I get video games all the way to high school. My parents always allowed me to get a game during my birthday and special occasion like Christmas. I always had such a goofy look on my face as I continuously look at the box art of the game over and over on the car ride home. It would be a shame that people can no longer experience the joy from getting a nice physical box if games were to go fully digital. I understand the convenience of it. However, nothing beats the feeling of owning a physical copy of something.

[@davidtimmer596]

This video really speaks to me. I love collecting physical games, because I love the feeling of genuine connection. Seeing the game on the shelf, or bin, or whatever, and knowing it's for you is there. The sense of touch helps solidify that. When you feel something, you know it's for you or not.

[@T.D.F.M]

"and knowing it's for you is there." Wat 🤨🧐🧐🤨👁️👄👁️

[@TheFos88]

I will soak to your chairs in love

[@fablelapunisher6232]

REAL

[@randehmarsh40689]

Nothing will ever beat physical media, plain and simple.

[@mrfoodskater]

Pirated*

[@randehmarsh40689]

@@mrfoodskater depends entirely who youre pirating it from if you ask me.

[@mrfoodskater]

@@randehmarsh40689 I pirate from indie game developers strictly

[@MrTheinfoman]

Depends how long does it last the physical wear, tare and degredation of physical media some but not all. 😊

[@bransonallen2925]

Nothing except data and disk rot

[@tigervalley62]

I'd argue this doesn't just apply to video games but ALL forms of media as well. Movies, CDs, TV shows, Books. Everything is digital now, and I think it's highly important that we as a society start making a uturn on that because the last thing I want is to live in a world where big corporations can dictate to me what I can and cannot consume, even if I paid full price to use their services. Again, that's what this is, A SERVICE!! That's it. They are effectively allowing you into their sandbox to play, and can close and open it whenever they want. Fully on board with what Mutahar. Physical allows you to have ultimate control over your own media. It's yours forever. Please ladies and gentlemen, don't volunteerily give up your rights as a customer to these big businesses. They truly do not give 2 shits about you. They see us as walking ATM machines that can be milked to kingdom come. Again, do you really want companies like that to charge you a steep fee to play in their sandbox for a couple of years before they shut it down?

[@_holy__ghost]

bro just pirate the damn files. aint nobody got money to buy a bluray for every single movie we want to watch or a paperback for every book we want to read.

[@ClonewarswarsClone]

@@_holy__ghost and what happens when pirating site get shut down. Or what happens if the file deletes. I think it’s arguably more important to just buy it.

[@Ordealux]

@@_holy__ghost As bully has said, what's your solution when pirating isn't possible? You know what is always possible? Popping in the physical copy and using the physical thing in your hands.

[@_holy__ghost]

@@Ordealux again, nobody is saying physical media shouldnt be available, genius. im just saying its stupid to say that anyone who doesnt buy physical media is an idiot who is willing to give up their ownership rights. thats my ENTIRE point. no other implications.

[@_holy__ghost]

@@ClonewarswarsClone sure, ill buy it. after ive already tried it (through piracy) and im 100% sure ill like it. miss me with that 'immediately buying a disk of a 60€ game only to hate it after the first hour' shit.

[@XxBeamerr]

Taking away physical copies is legit the definition of “trying to save a quick buck”

[@JaysasterGaming]

I agree

[@celticluna1691]

The market is changing you can't stop that digital is over taking physical.

[@TheOnlyPedroGameplays]

@@user-ln6nr8xc7xit’s not about the discs, Batman, it’s about the jurisdiction of the discs. It’s about how game companies are allowed to kill them off and make them unavailable at their own discretion

[@TheOnlyPedroGameplays]

@@celticluna1691first batch of sky nets robots are going to be tracking your location so they can come and rail you without pause for screwing that up

[@finz7175]

Or trying to save environment

[@gamingclips481]

You also forgot to mention that many physical releases of games come with unique collectable memorabilia. Things like steelbooks, special cases, unique game manuals, pins, stickers, and much much more. These things add another pro that physical games have over digital

[@Maverick_Jones45]

Ik I'm 3 months late but Steelbooks still exist however they lost their value seeing as game companies these days don't even ship the steelbook case with the disc inside anymore but rather give u a shitty code that u redeem on ur PSN account or Xbox Account

[@moonlightw6]

@@Maverick_Jones45yh this happened with Spider-Man 2

[@s.z.9517]

I remember buying my first copy of Baldur's Gate 2. The box contained 5 discs, a big manual with tons of lore, a map of the world... Those were the days.

[@iFaFo_0]

I miss multiple discs and mega manuals. I used to read those things front to back before I even played the game.

[@tdestroyer4780]

@@iFaFo_0 It's kind of weird how gaming companies all decided at the same time to stop making manuals. It wasn't even phased out they just vanished.

[@artbyddp]

​@tdestroyer4780 if the game doesn't have a strategy guide chances are it's a soulless and empty game. That's how most games are these day's.

[@s.z.9517]

@@artbyddp Exactly the difference between Fallout 1 and 2, and all the others. The first ones built a dark, mature ambiance just with the music and the manuals they put in the boxes. They were literally survival guides for post nuclear times. There was nothing to laugh about, it was serious business and encountering a deathclaw was just game over.

[@s.z.9517]

@@iFaFo_0 The game would take an hour to install, leaving you enough time to put yourself in the proper mindset while reading.

[@chrisball3778]

It's not accidental. They're pushing to get rid of physical media because they want to move to a subscription model, where you don't own your stuff, but have to continuously subscribe to their services and continue paying them to access it. They get more money, more often and they retain control of the media so they can change or delete it if they want.

[@countbooga6997]

"You'll own nothing and be happy"-sinister German man Globalization and lack of regulations will be the death of humanity as we know it.

[@TTV.MoraiZuko]

Yep, and it's happening to cash as well

[@hadrast]

You can side-step all that by only buying DRM-free from places like GOG.

[@deoxysandmew2162]

Yee, fuck that shit. If that happens, then i will enjoy my older games and never look back.

[@TheeGlocktopus]

Not true. This happens every time storage mediums fall out of technology. It happened with floppies... That became cartridges, and that became CDs and that became DVDs and that became BluRay... The problem is that the overwhelming majority of games are too large to fit on disc medium these days. There is also other infrastructure engineers need to consider, such as the disc reading hardware. There's a reason the PS5 with the disc tray is over a hundred dollars more. These companies save piles of money by the mere removal of a disc, they don't need a subscription model.

[@Chaosxinc]

I remember when working out of the box was so expected that I never thought it would be an issue. If you told somebody in the 90's that the future of gaming would be buying a game from the store and it not working, they would have laughed at such an absurd concept.

[@Pes._]

Even to 2009-10, sad times this past decade has brought us

[@Diviance]

There are more than a few games from the 90's that had serious issues out of the box. Some of them got fixed in revised releases (that most people never heard of), some didn't.

[@RomanBellic-ez5fh]

I blame the responsibles for making pcs digital only and the people who can buy the physical media but don’t because they can’t just unglue their fat asses from the couch and touch some grass in the way to a gamestop and related

[@johnhoney5089]

​@@DivianceThat is true, however it wasn't as severe a problem then. Nowadays it seems almost every major release has this problem, but perhaps that's on the consumers too for being complacent over the years.

[@youforget1000thingsaday]

Action 52 was released in 1991. Bad broken games have existed forever, lol.

[@northwestcottt]

Reading that boxart and being able to actually hold the game that you love is something that cannot be replaced, simple.

[@jorgeguzman3838]

What I love about switch cartidges is that you stick it in and if it's all there then at most you just optionally can download an update. You dont have to install the whole game.

[@goonerOZZ]

one thing not many people know, you can actually update your copy from someone else's switch that had already updated their game. You don't need an internet connection. Theoretically, switch can update the games version indefinitely even after the server is gone as long as there's a switch with an updated version of said game

[@hellacia8151]

@@goonerOZZ This does not apply to dlc however (why I think DLC backups as .nsps are crucial)

[@ckicken946]

​@@goonerOZZ i remember people were doing that when smash ultimate came out nobody could get in the game

[@whotfisjason7870]

Really? I thought they started forcing them on you at a certain point

[@Uohhhh777]

​@@goonerOZZyour thoughts on manscapped?

[@chrise8275]

I don’t play video games, but this talk about psychical media is VERY prevalent in the Movie Collection Community, probably even more so. Yeah it’s convenient to just pull out your phone and watch a movie, but sometimes the feeling of putting a Blu-ray into your Blu-ray player feels so good. Also a lot of movie companies are not making as many bonus features as they used to, which is a shame because things like deleted scenes and audio commentaries are cool do watch. There’s a reason why everyone loves The Criterion Collection, they not only preserve these fantastic movies, but they give you great insight into the making of them!

[@therealjaystone2344]

Not to mention the worst, niche movies that still aren’t available via digital. Don’t get even me started with the censorship removal for stupid reasons.

[@mansellracing8690]

YEH1 BRAVO mate, What they Gonna do next, Shut Down All the Cinemas, And only show the latest films on the internet. HA HAA. Joking apart, I wouldn't put it past them though my friend.

[@TheoHawk316]

Same thing with books.

[@mansellracing8690]

@@TheoHawk316 YEH! For sure pall, It will come Were already half way there. They killed the book when they brought out the Flipping EBOOK, Don't get me wrong useful for when on the move i suppose, But give me a physical Hardbook any day my friend. The Internet has got a lot to answer for my friend.

[@mansellracing8690]

YEH! well said, I have 100ds and 100ds of original physical DVDs a lot of them very collectable indeed. I have been collecting them ever since i was in my 20s, I am now nearly 52 years old, good god 52 mate, and i feel it to. Just my rolling stones DVD collection is worth a fair bit, OH yes as well as having a ton of films, I also have a fab music collection. But my point is what your saying you know, From hunting that rear AWSOME find and walking out the shop with a grin on your face, To taking it home and unwrapping it, And enjoying everything it has to offer, Such as the Bonus footage or as you just said the audio commentaries, I miss all that my friend. But sadly I have run out of room anyway, I live in a 2 Bed Flat, And we have a walk in store room, YEH you Guest it mate, It is Chock a Block buddy. So i couldn't buy anymore even if i wanted. But one day we won't see Physical versions anymore, It will be all this Download CRAP. Or Streaming Rubbish, At least on good old DVDs you don't get swamped with ADDS Every few Minutes my friend.

[@GrimShadows-pi4yz]

Physical media dying will be the death of video games for me personally. I'm so glad Muta keeps doing videos like these.

[@wyattbarnett3877]

Well Nintendo will keep physical copies

[@5226-p1e]

you will own nothing and they will be happy that you own nothing. that's the truth of that sentence.

[@flapjackpancake5486]

The only thing that I have now that I can get physical games with is my switch. I let my PC handle all the bigger games. But yeah looking at my steam library isn't remotely as satisfying as looking at my switch collection

[@chrono_s9699]

Okay. Majority will keep on enjoying video games anyway even if it dies for you.

[@TheOnlyPedroGameplays]

@@5226-p1epeople think they know that already, and that they’re okay with it, but oh boy

[@nevercolo8661]

The peek for the gaming Industry may have been around the mid 2000s to the early 2010s when physical media was everything. The fact this is now considered the new norm for gaming is kinda scary. the more rare the game, the more its wanted.

[@therealjaystone2344]

Digital media on gaming started it back in the 360/ps3 era

[@Charles-hy6gp]

​@@therealjaystone2344But there were games that didn't have digital release There are disk only games on PS3

[@TreiskadekDevil]

​@therealjaystone2344 Technically, it's been around longer than that, if you look into stuff like the Sega channel from the 90s which was pretty much a 90s equivalent to Gamepass, and even on the Dreamcast which had DLC this stuff has been around for abit, just only now it's becoming more of the norme.

[@くんヴィッツ]

@@Charles-hy6gpit wasn’t really popular, it became so big during Xbox one S era

[@b4rs629]

@@therealjaystone2344 Also the wii had a digital store as well.

[@ZeredHeizien]

25:58 I remember how they also said that changing the game cases from hard plastic to thin cheap garbage and not including manuals would make games cheaper. Gaming has only gotten significantly more expensive since then.

[@Kimvanloocke]

Just because made games cheaper they will not sell you cheaper

[@ZeredHeizien]

@@Kimvanloocke The point is they justified cheapening out on the cases and removing the manuals by saying it would make them cheaper, as if cheapening out on materials would somehow be a benefit to the customer. It was just another bs lie. It's like how they said games being digital would make them cheaper which was also a lie. I remember when games would launch day 1 on Steam for $10 cheaper than physical as the incentive to buy digital. Those days are long, long gone.

[@Kimvanloocke]

@@ZeredHeizien They misled, deceived or simply lied to us to get their way and get away with it its about money and greed

[@davesantos1413]

​​@@ZeredHeizieneck digital comic books are usually priced the same as physical comic books. Atleast with physical media and comics you have some resale value. Also have something to watch when the internet goes out. I remember I had the internet out for two days but enjoyed watching my old Blu rays and DVDs.

[@Chaso-1124]

I can't tell you how many times I have seen a brand new game with a case that is completely shattered and holding on by a thread. Yet there's 30 year old games that haven't even been taken care of and still in better condition

[@BillyBreezeArt]

i like having discs because i enjoy the tangible feel of owning it. the box art, everything about it

[@SegwayBossk]

And you don't have to always be online to play single player...

[@wilsonwade6361]

​@@SegwayBosskyou don't have to be online to play the digital version as well...

[@SegwayBossk]

@@wilsonwade6361 you have to be online to download a digital version

[@johnbishop2536]

​@@SegwayBossk If your not online then you'll have to play the unpatched version of a broken game anyway.

[@SegwayBossk]

@@johnbishop2536 games shouldn't be broken on an official release. Most games are usually playable day one without patches or other bs to "fix" games because they were rushed out. You probably support rushed and broken games with that kind of logic

[@aidanlynn]

The good ‘ol days of popping a disc in the PS2. No updates, no patches, no dlc. Good times.

[@Pointman11111]

There are still very rare cases where this applies

[@Jukestar]

Back then, they had to finish their games BEFORE releasing them.

[@KEEYBLADE]

@@Jukestar THIS! And yes, even back then, there were some bugs, but mostly very minor bugs. There were basically no real release disasters like Battlefield or Cyberpunk, unlike nowadays.

[@0uttaS1TE]

​@KEEYBLADE "Very minor" Vice City had a save point that would break your save. San Andreas had a mission that had a chance to soft lock your save too. But "very minor". I'm not saying this "release now, patch it later" approach is better but holy shit I am tired of this "there were no glitches" revisionism.

[@Wodferd]

@@Jukestar Those are some nice rose tinted glasses you got there. LOTS of games had game breaking bugs before patching was a thing.

[@lynellegion7012]

I'm sad everything is being pushed to be digital nowadays, I miss being able to get everything physically and when you have it in your hands you feel like you actually bought and own the game and that it's yours. There's just something better about it being in your hands compared to just downloading it off a store or something. Growing up the boxes always had cool manuals and stuff to look at that they just simply don't have nowadays and I feel like that's a big part of why I miss it aswell considering I'm a big collector for this stuff.

[@austinbevis4266]

I haven’t bought a disk game in years, but I almost think that just having them exist is comforting because it’s assurance that these games will be preserved in some fashion.

[@joewhitlow5799]

Smh if you're gaming on consoles you have no excuse you're part of the problem.

[@austinbevis4266]

@@joewhitlow5799 I’m on pc, you psycho…

[@ctgaming168]

Digital preservation is way better. Files can be put anywhere. Way better redundancy.

[@austinbevis4266]

@@ctgaming168 muta literally says in the video how you can’t do that for many games…

[@entertainmentfan1463]

@@ctgaming168 "Digital preservation is way better. Files can be put anywhere. Way better redundancy." There's far higher chance of a computer or system burning out then a physical copy. I know because take a guess which one I spend more money repairing because there's some sort of breakdown during hot summer days? Currently I can't even play games on my PC because the last breakdown was less than a year ago where my power supply didn't just burnt, but took out my graphics card and a portion of my motherboard. I got the power supply and motherboard fixed, but the graphics card is defunct. On the flipside, I have physical games from all the way back from the 90s that I can pop in and they still work.

[@WeebSenpai2431]

I think this applies everywhere. Movies, TV series, Games, Books etc. Yes digital for many is convenient and simple, but say for Movies and Shows, all it takes is a company to lose a license and we no longer have access to it until someone else comes along and hopefully picks it up, especially more so with exclusives. Same for games, all it'd take is a publisher to stop selling a game on any platforms its on and you lose the only legal way to get said game (especially more so, once again, if its an exclusive).

[@Navi1Lo]

Book are a bit different since there are public libraries about. Something similar for games would be brilliant

[@cqllel5186]

Piracy will always exist. Once a movie is on the internet, it can't fully be removed or edited PDF files for books are also free, downloadable, and accessible offline. eBooks and paying for them is just a very risky decision in the long run

[@poppyalt7427]

​@@Navi1LoI've noticed in my small town's library there's a whole wall of video games (granted only from ps3/wii/ds/xbox360 to current gen and not the whole library for any) and you can just borrow them from there. I hope that system ends up more popular in other libraries because it's a great idea and I've been able to get into games I couldn't have before now

[@crazychainsaw007]

Games would be seperate in my opinion. There is a legit case to make espesially for cloud gaming, the biggest one being is the consumers generally have weaker hardware and don't upgrade frequently limiting developers on what they can do. If people payed a subscription like in WoW but for a cloud based game not only could you insure that you'll have adequete hardware but you'll actually be able to increase you possibilities over time much quicker.

[@Jadty]

Also companies are starting to retroactively censor books, movies, games, etc due to ESG propaganda requirements from Blackrock and Vanguard. The Ministry of Truth is in full effect.

[@maxraccoon3529]

I don't want physical to go away. That would really suck. I, personally, mostly have digital. But that's because I don't really hangout with anyone and I'm usually only buying when there's cheap sales going on. The moment you let companies do what they want is the moment that they, and many other companies, continue to push boundaries to see what they can get away with

[@unknownman5090]

As dude who not really good with tech, I agree with you. I would love to play game offline as always online is never a thing no matter where you are. I bought RDR2 cuz I thought I can play it offline but wow, I surprise there are multiple drm that doesnt even allow me to play offline. I tried and some dude told you need actual internet connection to start the game. It sux

[@jaysony8587]

If you ain’t supporting it you don’t really get a say so in “not wanting it to go away”.

[@maxraccoon3529]

@@jaysony8587 I'm confused. Are you saying I'm not supporting it because I'm not buying it?

[@jaysony8587]

@@maxraccoon3529 well, yeah. You’re not contributing to it potentially staying alive. Wishful thinking isn’t it.

[@maxraccoon3529]

@@jaysony8587 that's kind of a dumb take on it. That's like telling someone they can't support gay rights because they're not gay, so they're not actually supporting it. That's worse than the take that movies and music goes away because people pirate it. If something is actually going away, then there can be protests and whatnot against it. My digital copies work much better for me as I'm not one who sells his collection and carrying physical copies everywhere just becomes clutter for me. And again, I'm usually only buying when it's a sale, so they're making less than they would on a physical copy

[@Permenantlyexhaustedghost115]

I love physical copies because I like the idea of physically owning something vs having a digital copy that can be easily lost or deleted. I missed the days where you bought the game and put it in the console. Now it all requires connections and patches and updates. Sadly anything that can be digitized and distributed will be done so. Sadly taking away any kind of physical ownership over media.

[@davesantos1413]

It also has a resale value and can be used when the internet has issues or goes out. Soon I think they may get rid of downloading games and have games need an online connection at all times.

[@nightterror6727]

This is why I'm glad I kept all my childhood game disks and consoles all these years. At least when the physical media purge inevitably happens I'll have something to fall back on.

[@BlueBARv5]

Same!

[@thechugg4372]

​@@baronvonslambertlets be honest this guy hasnt used his childhood games and they already arent working, I wanted to boot up the good old gamecube recently, yeah that console is dead. Physical media will always die very fast...

[@5226-p1e]

the only old thing i have is an old modded xbox where i have stored games that i could create copies of games with, but i was never given instruction's how to copy games with the console, i just know the tech has that capability.

[@slainemccool2875]

I have a few hundred ps2 games

[@ThatGuyWhos]

Still have my OG PS4 from 2013 still not updated :)

[@mrcarbonmr3065]

Elden Ring before the day one patch was a fully different experience from the now patched version. Handfuls of different enemy layouts, altered dialog, even the map was altered not showing the Jar Village cause it’s hidden away to the player. Comparing Elden 1.0 to now after the Colosseum update is like comparing Ocarina of Time to Master Quest, and it’s so important that people have the means to play any given version of any given game they own

[@personalcompertest]

Dude I completely love it when you talk about this stuff because this stuff is very important and everybody needs to know about how important preservation and anti DRM gaming is. Amazing video man!

[@HarambeTheHutt]

I’ve lost almost $3000 dollars worth of music that I bought over ten years from iTunes because I lost my password. Needless to say, I am highly skeptical of the value of digital media. I want a disc that can’t be arbitrarily taken from me because of updated terms of service

[@avikellerman4539]

Good. I hope this happens to everyone that supports digital. Without people mindlessly supporting this wicked system which takes ownership away from the consumer, companies couldn't get away with this bs because they'd go broke. So they would have to give us value or simply perish. All of this is only possible because enough people have bought into the scam and fallacies which is digital media. I hope you learned your lesson. Assuming you're not making the whole thing up. And while I do feel kind of bad because 3k is a lot to lose, in the end you only have yourself to blame. Losing access to your downloads is only one of the nasty effects of digital. There are many more. Normalization of releasing incomplete products, not owning your own purchases, not having the potential to sell or trade your media if and when you decide, being dependent on servers for access, etc. Digital would be fine if it was just an option. But they're trying to force everyone into that realm, for EVERYTHING. All their media. You will own nothing and be happy as they say.

[@qna95B]

lol who pay$ for music??

[@bluekai9577]

@@qna95BThere are some people who would like to support artist. I use streaming to mainly discover new music. If I like an artist enough, I’ll buy their music on CD, if it’s available.

[@alphamineron]

How is that the digital media or the company’s fault… you literally forgot your password. It is your fault 100%… this is pathetic, it like someone complaining how physical goods are horrible because they lost their dvds during moving apartments.

[@warmsignal]

@@qna95B Maybe those who actually care about the fidelity of their listening experience, and/or who don't want garbage advertisements stinking said experience up? That's not free.

[@KogasaTatara514]

I don't want to ever be limited to having three big games on any system at any given time.

[@tmoney1487]

You can just delete and reinstall as you wish as long as your saves or hooked up to a cloud server, unless you just have really slow or limited internet access

[@soraxstacy1477]

​@@tmoney1487 That's such a waste of time...

[@MalikATL]

@@soraxstacy1477we already waste time playing games I’ve a modded Xbox 360 with every game on it took me a week to get every game on it

[@Unapologeticweeb]

3 games if your luck had to delete all my games because of the switch pathetic storage capacity when totk was enough to fill the entire storage

[@KogasaTatara514]

@@Unapologeticweeb same here actually. Had to delete Ark Survival because it eventually grew to the point of just outright taking up all of my storage on my laptop.

[@niokyn3367]

I really love physical disc's, there is just something about having my collection in person instead of on screen that never gets old. I hope we don't lose physical editions anytime soon.

[@Kimvanloocke]

Sadly they sell you a steel case with a download code or only basic game locking Deluxe digital only

[@niokyn3367]

@@Kimvanloocke yeah pretty messed up , considering for standard you get a physical. Who suggested they paying more so let's give them less in the collectors edition for Starfield

[@Kimvanloocke]

Sadly matter of time too many defend digital PS5 was rumerd to be the last disc drive console and the new version will have a removeble discdrive PS6 Digital only possibly i hope not but we have no leverage to stop them only delay perhaps when Sony loses they will again actualy cater to us

[@niokyn3367]

@@Kimvanloocke sigh tough times ahead, at least we had right. Feel for future gamers not being able to experience disk game if we lose it.

[@Kimvanloocke]

@@niokyn3367 yes the ones likeminded like us not the fools who think it does not affect them praising companies thinking they do the right thing until they get screwd too but by then all will be lost so much media is lost or even rebooted by haters political activists Star Wars, Star-Trek, Doctor Who, James Bond,....

[@JohnSmith-xq1pz]

The day the digital dystopian future comes I will go 100% Retro gaming. Thankfully I already have a little retro gaming setup in a corner of the basement

[@ThinWhiteLuke]

It’s already happened.

[@NFSBeast2365]

Godspeed, comrade.

[@LovesGrilling]

This is the way. I've been building my game collection on the cheap lately.

[@JoeDirtisawsome]

just sail the 7 seas dude.

[@gamercatsz5441]

Digital games are mega cheap tho. I litterally have hundreds of games on epic game store and I payed only for 1 or 2.. Also on steam and the ubisoft one, more free games than I ever play and it cost virtually nothing.

[@crazypopcorn7801]

You forget one of the most important advantages of physical copies, the price! I live in Brazil and games here are really expensive. Demon souls is 329 reais on PSN (around 70$), but I could find this game on the store near my house for only 68 reais (around 15$).

[@-carpet-]

Tbh atleast on xbox digital games go on sale very often. Almost every digital game ive bought was while they were on sale. Sometimes ill even have like $5 dollars left on my account and still be able to buy a great discounted 360 game

[@Underview]

Stop stealing from the corporations.

[@alphamineron]

@@Underview yea those corporations employ people and contribute to the GDP. Unless you’re unemployed, a similar corporation is supporting your life. So perhaps… don’t steal from other human beings who are simply doing business.

[@alphamineron]

Is that the original dvd or a pirated resale? Asking because the $15 resale price doesn’t make sense

[@crazypopcorn7801]

​@@alphamineron No! It's a original copy of the game sealed. I bought the game for this price during a clearance sale

[@LukeHayes1000]

I love physical media, the interesting thing is that, even in 2023, a chartiy shop I volunteer is, is able to sell 10s of DVDs and CDs daily, records are still able to sell as well. I always buy physical media every day, although sadly, I am running out of space. I will probably never stop buying them either way.

[@MaskedMarshy]

I'm never quitting gaming, but I will definitely just limit myself to older systems with discs if we lose them. But I hope that never has to happen.

[@tigervalley62]

If it get down to this, I'm ditching console for good and sticking to PC. Not perfect but the freedom PC gives is a lot better than what the other systems allow.

[@_UglyBarnacle]

@@tigervalley62 i agree with you.

[@HaplessIdiot]

Lets see you actually follow thru i prefer my steam library for modern classic games are already on physical stop buying games that arent retro and problem solved

[@Jakco808]

​@@tigervalley62real

[@Sweezzie]

Thanks for standing up to physical media muta you a real one

[@thechugg4372]

Still people have no idea about the technicallity that you literally cant hold a 200gb game on a disk/cartdrige...

[@DeadPhoenix86DP]

@@thechugg4372 I'm sure they can make 200GB Blu-ray discs.

[@treezz6798]

@@thechugg4372 did you even watch the video? a single ps5 disc can hold 100gb now. FF7 rebirth will release on two discs, which means 200GB total storage. so yes, 200GB games can absolutely come on disc

[@loomman5296]

I'm a believer in owning what you love. Most of my games are digital, but I've rebought physical copies of my favourites just to own them. Also, it's worth having physical Switch games since the data is stored on the card, rather than the console.

[@joeycommet45]

Owning psychical media then ripping it onto a hard drive is the way to go. It's what I did for my PS2 games for PCSX2 which I can now forever preserve in case the disc gets broken or degrades due to age.

[@mekhane.broken9678]

You can do that? Wow I must learn this

[@joeycommet45]

@@mekhane.broken9678 ImgBurn is good for PS2 discs and anything else DRM free.

[@bruhtholemew]

@@iaqh Plenty of people access sites that are safe and malware free for roms daily. If you're that prone to malware from rom sites, I can only imagine what's already snuck it's way onto your PC.

[@iaqh]

@@bruhtholemew The onIy thing I find safe are the surveys you have to do before downIoading stuff, because the survey means it's safe.

[@lordmarshmal_0643]

I don't think Nintendo will ever fully ditch physical copies That being said, it's Nintendo, they never fail to disappoint

[@noodleman4555]

The only way I'll ever see Nintendo stop selling physical copies is if they completely run out of physical stores to sell said physical copies.

[@itrr]

@noodleman4555 Honestly, that's a good point.

[@neoasura]

Back in the NES/SNES days, Nintendo licensed the cartridge production, so they got a cut of the production profits. Thats why they wont bail on physical media, its also part of the reason they stuck with cartridges on the N64.

[@accountid9681]

they never fail to disappoint, but they also never fail to pull a 180 on the rest of the industry so we'll see

[@linkfreeman1998]

Well, pray that one point they disappoint u then.

[@kellyboland2438]

Sometimes digital games are unplayable and crash, the same can be said on physical discs. It's good to have a choice where and how you want to play them.

[@legacy4L]

Man you hit the nail on the head on so many points. I lose my my mind to being a physical game collector too. Stuck buying a game twice or waiting for a "complete" edition to be released.

[@velvetblueco2422]

Going on a journey to buy a physical game is part of the experience. Looking at the box art, manual and descriptions just adds to the excitement. And makes finally playing the game an impactful memorable moment

[@0uttaS1TE]

Ngl I miss the extra stuff that physical media would come with. Midnight Club 3 and LA came with posters of other games and stuff like the city map or the roster of cars. It was extra stuff. I know that nowadays you can get someone to print that out for you but it was the extra effort that was cool

[@DaakkuuYRS]

Yep. Game hunting is fun, at least for me. Sadly, it is not as fun nowadays. Since rarely anyone buy physical copies, the stock in stores has decreased massively compared to the past.

[@Chinesetakeout382]

I only really experienced this as a child. I still agree that the experience of buying a physical game is good, but for me, it’s less that the experience was actually that good and more that I miss the way I felt when I was young and doing that.

[@D44RK_Iced_Yogs]

Me too. Digital is convenient but it really sucks when it comes to finding games at a good price (the price they would be going for it they weren’t digital.) You either go physical or just straight up wait for a yearly sale and it’s not fun. It’s all up to the corporates at that point and they can easily shill the market for $ at that point. Not to mention, you wouldn’t own the game, Sony/Xbox/Steam could shut down at any point in time and you would have NOTHING. At least when services get shut down you’d still have the services you bought if it’s physical. That’s why I’m so against stuff like Game Pass, it’s too easy for it to go away and for what? Shovelware products with some AAA titles in between? No thanks.

[@tmoney1487]

Game pass is great ive owned it for years now and never have they just removed a game i adored to death and played every day. People make it sound like its INEVITABLE that digital copies of games will be taken from you when in reality its something that very, very rarely happens before you can get your fill of the game. And game pass isnt even a thing where youre paying for every game you play individually, its more or less supposed to be a place where you can try out games before you decide to buy and keep them permenantly. So its not like theyre actually taking anything from you when they remove it off game pass because you never owned that product in the first place. Furthermore they have a whole section of "leaving soon" games so its not like you dont have forewarning or just wake up one day and cant play the game.

[@Unapologeticweeb]

Is it though? PC wise sure but I wouldn't say having to delete all my data in order to even fit totk on the switch isn't exactly what I would call convienient

[@Unapologeticweeb]

Most of These indie games have more effort put into it then most triple a games one of my favorites jprgs this year is an indie by the name of chained echoes

[@thesurvivlist5440]

Damn, you do be calling every indie games shovelware products.

[@JoeDirtisawsome]

just dont pay for it and download it for free

[@iam16bits]

Honestly we have no one to blame but ourselves. We let the industry get away with this all for the sake of "Convenience".

[@Siaman668]

Sure if you want to look at things as black and white with no gray.

[@mcoupe69]

Blame everyone who bought into streaming and steamdeck shite

[@Kaltagstar96]

I'll never get the "Convenience" argument considering it takes, like, a second to slot a disk into your console.

[@MalikATL]

@@mcoupe69dude mad cause we don’t wanna have a bunch of disc in our room 😹

[@Siaman668]

@@mcoupe69blaming the steam deck is odd. It’s a new console. It isn’t like it was the trend setter for this. It’s just a console made for steam which is a digital platform for the last 20 years. This isn’t black and white. Nothing is

[@Dailyfiver]

Another pro that I liked about physical copies is that back in the day, when you got a game for $50, and beat it, you could then sell it for like $30-$40 and get your money back. Digital stuff is non-refundable after like 2 hours of play.

[@chandlerrich9786]

Ever since Muta starting talking about game preservation more frequently I’ve created a massive backlog of OG Xbox and 360 series games on physical disc. I would highly recommend revisiting the classic titles you know and love, something just feels different and I’m happier with my gaming experience playing games like fable 2, gears of war 2, GTA 4, RDR1, etc.

[@spontaneousdisintegration]

This should be a 'no brainer' for many reasons. -I have a PS2/3/&4 library on physical media. If/when internet goes down or games get removed. I m covered & I have a marketable collection without Devs removing my options. OG style, thank you Mutahar, you're officially old school now. Saluté

[@hellacia8151]

I made a more in depth comment about this, however stuff like the c-bomb issue does also worry me. While the media can still be played and fully owned, console manufacturers have been proven if they want they can brick your console with planned obsolescence and take away your ability to use said media. Yes I know backwards compatibility exists, but how long will it be before it's phased out, or when consoles just go all digital?

[@spontaneousdisintegration]

@@hellacia8151 that is an excellent point as well.

[@mustafaahmed8024]

discs are underrated, it feels much more proper and worth it for the price of the game, especially with the prices for games nowadays

[@ShadowMan64572]

That makes no sense. You buy a game to play it for its content, not the box.

[@parchemiarz]

@@ShadowMan64572 Some people just like collecting and displaying things, is that concept really that hard to comprehend?

[@ShadowMan64572]

@@parchemiarz Most of these comments are going full anti-digital for no reason, and saying a game is more ''proper'' or has more price value because it comes in a box is false.

[@treezz6798]

@@ShadowMan64572 you buy a game for its content, which you should have access to forever. discs on console are the only way to achieve that, understand? the box is a cool bonus, and it literally does add value to the product you buy.

[@ShadowMan64572]

@@treezz6798 I have access to every single digital game I own. Don't even try to bring up the conspiracy theory that aliens or some hidden technology will make digital games go poof. I have them ALL. Lmfao

[@AtelierOfWeebs]

That's them literally deciding when you get to play your games and watch your movies, what you can or cannot play, and decide when they take it away from you, of course, without giving back your money. It happened just last month, here in Mexico, Cinépolis Klic, the most known "digital purchase" app closed down, people lost their entire libraries of well and full priced movies, not a dime was returned. DVD stores no longer sell movies and entirely changed their business model to "earphones, books and Funko pops" We're stuck just waiting for the last time we'll ever own something we pay for

[@kayla_may]

I miss the extra stuff they put in game cases but I still love buying physical games 🥺 Its kinda like buying a physical book vs an "e-book"

[@TomoEriGoto]

Dude, I always open a new game and stare for a brief second before it hits me that, no, majority of games these days don’t have manuals or cool extra stuff.

[@smokedbeefandcheese4144]

You are so right I remember everybody Who bought a rockstar game with hang up the map poster or whatever every game used to come with the poster it was so sick

[@alexx0988]

Im glad i grew up as a kid with liitle booklets coming woth games

[@lilstinker5475]

@@smokedbeefandcheese4144 I still have my gta 5 and rdr 2 maps that are near impossible to fold back to how they were originally, I've moved to PC exclusively so the best I get now is a PDF file and OST for extras :(

[@ASx2608]

@@lilstinker5475those maps were so fun.

[@KreuzDrache]

Greatly prefer physical myself. Takes up space for sure, but the boxes are nice. I do wish people were a little more caring about having something physical in their hands. It gives WAY more freedom and power than some realized. EDIT: This goes for more than just video games too. It goes for CCGs like yugioh/pokemon and physical cash too. You have so much more control when have product in hand, rather than only "digitally".

[@ScotttheCyborg]

Physical disk in hand makes it harder to block access when taken off the streaming service. Digital copies don't save the environment when you still produce a plastic box or a steelbook to hold the download code.

[@RosesTeaAndASD]

Alot of movies and tv shows never made the transition from videos and DVDs to streaming services, so it's important that we hang onto these physical copies to create digital ones to preserve them from.

[@TheFos88]

Agreed. Used to play a ton of MTG and I had a couple friends who only played the online version, so I got into it a bit even buying some "cards", but it was never the same as having your collection around you physically.

[@ScotttheCyborg]

@@TheFos88 I've scanned some of my photos and put them online. I'm waiting for someone to try to copyright strike me and I can say "I have the original NEGATIVE, bitch!" Try that digitally.

[@Jackson-il1sn]

@@ScotttheCyborgYeah lots of Physical copies nowadays hold a cardboard disk instead of a regular CD.

[@erickmarin6147]

I remember feeling that my original game of the year edition of Oblivion was oozing with magic having the character guides and map, and that is now lost.

[@efuntron]

I’m glad you’re talking about this Muta, physical copies are important and if we lose them we will be 100 percent at the mercy of Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft. If they feel like removing something that’s it. Plus Nintendo has shut down servers for Wii, Wii U and 3DS. Sony will eventually shut down the ps3 and vita servers too. I always opt for physical copies.

[@majoryoshi]

For the PC side of things, there's a reason why I've started buying games on GOG, especially if they're single player games or online games that I don't plan on playing with friends.

[@hadrast]

This! Physical vs. digital is a smokescreen. What's important is what's offered standalone!

[@UrodCyka]

i mean if you arent ethical, you could easily pirate gog games and get them all for free

[@bipbop3121]

Reply to unethical gog. As try before you buy, fine. The whole point is to vote with your wallet for companies doing it right to stay in business. Extra unethical to shaft a company that built itself first off game preservation principles. Although, a good part of the reason it is that way, its country is home to many a privateer, so they actively had to compete with being a better service.

[@UrodCyka]

@@bipbop3121 no matter what, fighting piracy is impossible. its almost impossible to fight digital piracy.

[@vincentvega3093]

Yes. Latest addition is the Yakuza Collection for a great price i got 7 games. Hundreds of hours for 33 bucks

[@KreuzDrache]

I do think another problem with this push for digital only is that really encourages more unfinished product too. While I do appreciate Hello Games for fixing No Man's Sky(and I am sure other developers have done the same too before), but I do believe they popularize that zeitgeist in "sell it now, fix it later".

[@Rafroo]

Having played NMS at launch and actually enjoyed it quite a bit but also having followed the drama, I feel like Hello Games' situation was probably because of the publisher. Regardless, I agree that the push to digital feels like it allows devs/publishers to sell a game without "going gold" and easily get away with paid early access of an unplayable game. ie : Release a game 3 months early in early access and still make people pay full price but the game only being fully playable or finished (content-wise) 3 months later.

[@KreuzDrache]

@@Rafroo While that is fair and quite possibly accurate to say it was more of the faut of the publishers, it does not change the fact that NMS's turn-around "inspired" others to do the same along with the trend of digital updates being "required" to fix the base game. That was the crux of my post. I do not think it's that far off to claim that game is a big reason why we're in this mess of unfinished product in the first place. I am pretty confident that Todd Howard himself justified Fallout 76 development by directly referencing NMS even. If I ever do find that article, I will definitely edit this. EDIT: Hmm, I may be misremembering, cause the clostest I can find was an interview 4 years ago between Gamestop and Todd Howard comparing Fallout 76's launch to Destiny's launch. That specific part starts around 12:00 in that video.

[@darrenscott6982]

No the main problem is you don't really own the digital media. Its linked to your account if you get banned you lose everything.

[@KreuzDrache]

​@@darrenscott6982 You are arguing differet issues than what I was talking about. EDIT: Not saying you are wrong, but you are off topic.

[@jcaesar19871]

If they ever remove physical media, I hope it causes a crash, (we need another one) and will force companies to concede that they were wrong, and won't try again. For another fifty years, maybe.

[@TheAbsol7448]

​@@shaneclarke995 Intel making cheap but competitive GPUs now gives me some hope for that market. I hope their venture is enough to humble Nvidia and AMD.

[@jcaesar19871]

@@TheAbsol7448 Provided their GPUs are even good though.

[@ShineSpark88]

Why would there be another videogame crash? We aren't dealing with the Atari 2600 games here friend. Like most people are gonna stop buying games from Steam...

[@TheAbsol7448]

@@jcaesar19871 They are getting pretty good, actually. The actual GPU specs are great, it's the drivers that they need to keep improving.

[@iaqh]

It wiII never happen, today the gaming industry is too big to faiI, back then when the first crash happened, video games weren't as mainstream as they are today.

[@deadpoolnerd]

I so miss when gaming put effort into the physical media. Nice fun disc art, sometimes doing something different like having the soundtrack played when in a CD player. The changeable box art, from flipping the panel. And my absolute favorite was always the game manuals inside. Giving extra bits of lore character breakdowns sometimes different art. And the notes section in the back was always handy for writing cheat codes.

[@sinfulmourning2780]

Hearing companies argue that they know what people will enjoy (despite the constant backlash with every step they take) is worrying because you will definitely see people agree. I really wish everyone would understand that these companies are not our friends. They don't want what's best for us and the only reason they try to maje things good is because they know it'll get them more money. They are ready and willing to screw us at a moments notice whenever they think they can get away with it. We should always fight for what we know is best for us, not what they tell us is best.

[@mansellracing8690]

Here Here My friend, Well said.

[@sloppyjoe5263]

Well put, agreed, i always get pissed off when I see idiots defending these greedy multinational companies

[@samfisherxboxog8925]

I had a zoomer employee at Best Buy surprised people are still buying blu ray. I told him “what happens when that digital license for a movie becomes problematic and they take away something you enjoy?” Just blank stare because he can’t fathom that his media he likes would later become offensive.

[@samfisherxboxog8925]

@@praetorianplays9945 No I did not.

[@GoodlyPenguin]

Zoomers will give you that mile long stare when you tell them their streaming website that they access their streamable media will eventually lose the license to their media and shut down

[@maryford3676]

Tbf, people HAVE been speculating that regulation will come if the adoption rate is high enough that mass outrage will happen upon loss of service. Right now, digital libraries bank on you not caring about your library once the service is gone so that you re-buy your library.

[@Blanktester685]

You will also give them that same state when your disc breaks and you lose it anyway...

[@samfisherxboxog8925]

@@Blanktester685 I have a dvd disk from 2001. Still works like it did when I got it. Your argument is invalid.

[@RankAndFileGuy]

I started a small project about a year ago. I decided to collect 100 absolute favorite PC games on physical media that don't require any online connnectivity or activation. So when the game industry becomes pathetic I will have a backlog of games I whole-heartedly enjoy and can pick up whenever I wish and quit the digital eco-system.

[@Talia_Vantas]

Yes!! I'm always for preserving physical media! Since when I got the steamdeck I only bought games that were not available on consoles that I have (or are impossible to find at lower than 100€) or titles I didn't care much about initially, but if I particularly liked them and they were available on a console I later bought the physical copy!

[@Talia_Vantas]

This is also the reason why I do not EVER spend more than 20 € for a game to play on a steamdeck, because I would not own it anyway and it would feel like a waste of money The most I've ever spent on steam is 15€ I think... ONCE

[@J-146]

I haven’t even seen the video yet but I will start a riot if they stop physical discs. Good for collecting and owning the game even when the digital version is gone 👍🏻

[@Seven-p7s]

Wow used the white emoji ofc racists 🙄

[@J-146]

@@Seven-p7s Bc I’m white?

[@jemmas-h2842]

I can't say for games, but physical media is definitely not dying. I work for an online record store and we sell literally thousands of discs a day. Vinyl cd Blu-ray and DVD. Cassette seems to be popular too these days. No worries there. Games, maybe.

[@0uttaS1TE]

What's old will be new again. Before you know it, those Gamecube mini-discs and UMDs will be collectors items

[@lemonheins2720]

absolutely.

[@telophasemusic]

I love buying vinyl releases from artists I like (new and old) Sometimes it's a gamble going into the used bin at my local shop but overall it's a nice experience. Plus, a lot of artists also include a digital download for the album which is a plus. Am I ashamed to own the entire New Order discography on multiple formats? Maybe. Is it worth it to have a physical copy? Definitely

[@phantomsiege5097]

A world without physical games is a world without used games. That’s a world I don’t want to live in.

[@TNTITAN]

We are already in that world. The game isn’t on the disc anymore so I don’t get what the point is with physical (other than box art or if it’s some sort of special edition).

[@Jjosh9424]

@@TNTITANgames are on the disc I downloaded a whole 90gb of FF16 from the disc other company's need to stop putting broken games on discs

[@tede1838]

@@TNTITAN physical media is also environmentally unsound and expensive. there is nothing stopping publishers and seller's to have EULAs that let you sell your digital ownership on (including an downloadable installer like GOG does), gamer's just need to push the point.

[@TNTITAN]

@@tede1838 Oh I think there is something. First off developers and publishers will want money when you sell/give away a used game. There also the second issue of what stop a hackers from all of sudden coding “great these games are mine now, the person is now coded to have given me free games”. I don’t want blockchain tech on my purchases.

[@5226-p1e]

if you society were to collapse we wouldn't have any physical media as everything would essentially be erased within the cloud. it wouldn't be like fallout where they had tapes and records and all manor of books and magazines and literature, even though some of it was destroyed in the atomic war lol.

[@ticblank7281]

I prefer digital because I don't like the clutter, but you make some good points and I enjoy watching collector videos, I appreciate physical collections and I hope for physical collectors' sake, they keep making physical copies

[@davesantos1413]

Physical games have resale value. You can always sell them if you don't want the clutter. Can't resell digital games.

[@ticblank7281]

@@davesantos1413 yeah that's just for me personally, I'm not arguing against people who like having the physical collections, I appreciate and respect the people that do and their collections

[@SpaceRain]

This is why I still collect physical albums, vinyls, cds, casettes, etc. It just feels nice to have the physical object.

[@scrollkeeper5272]

I agree, physical discs mean a lot to me as well and it also allows you to reinstall and uninstall a game at your iwn leisure. Sure some fares lose a few updates, some needing them more than others, but it's the principle that matters.

[@Aireck174]

I like the artwork on the boxes. I thought music cds would go away but you can still buy CDs. I also like having the option to play a game 20 years after buying it.

[@NonameNoname-tr8uv]

Intelligent people such as myself collect physical copies of our favorite games and major titles, and buy digital copies of lesser games when they go on sale.

[@SKizzleAXE]

Crazy thing is COD MW2 had a disc version but still required you to download the entire game. The disc was basiclaly activation key, I see gaming going in this direction and 10 - 20 years from now it will probably be fully digital

[@FrederickTheAnon14W]

If gaming becomes fully digital then that'll be a fairly dark future for the world of gaming.

[@bigfloppa9594]

Games have started doing this since like 2013

[@Michael-sb8jf]

Even if a disc is just a license. It means I can still transfer that license between different people at my leisure

[@bigfloppa9594]

@@user-ln6nr8xc7x there's no difference to the consumer between a disc containing it that still requires a download to play and a disc being a digital key. You can't access it either way

[@yt.emsman1436]

If they do get rid of physical disks i would be very disappointed because in my childhood i have installed and played many games off of a disk whether it be on a console or a PC

[@somawolf]

I still remember doing a lan party of Rise of Nations Gold on disc many many years ago. We only had 1 copy of the game, mine, so we did something that had no reason to work but did. Launched the game on one computer, once the game was fully launched, eject the disc, give it to the next person, and they'd launch the game. it was amazing to be able to do this and play multiplayer together.

[@DOPExPIRATE]

Sweet.

[@gozutheDJ]

hhahahaha

[@Grizz0220]

It makes me so sad that physical media is fading away 😢. I always loved pre-ordering games to get special exclusive content. I also miss the hype of getting new games at the store with friends. 😔

[@SpiritHorizon]

You speak to me from the soul. I really don't know what I'll do when physical games die out

[@celticluna1691]

why do you think people buying physical Media

[@SpiritHorizon]

@@celticluna1691 have You watched the Video ? I Want to Own my Game And Not depent on the Grace of Sony or Microsoft

[@saenes6295]

The future is digitally stored drives for your games, if a digital game on your pc is no longer acessable due to platform shutdown or server shutdown there are always third party executables that work around this. For educational purposes, ofcourse. As long as those exist, a disk becomes simply a hardrive or sdd.

[@liarwithagun]

Exactly. And if companies ever get too cheeky/greedy and start basically stealing my money from me by robbing my digital libraries of things I'd purchased, I'll just start sailing the high seas.

[@soraxstacy1477]

​@@liarwithagunYo-ho, Yo-ho, A pirate's life for me...

[@Unapologeticweeb]

I don't consider piracy immoral if the game flat out wouldn't exist anymore I still have both downloaded evil genius one and ghost masters and the movies three games outright unavailable anywhere else Abandonware is not morally wrong

[@archonthaaproducer]

NO digital product is worth money tbh. If it's not tangible I don't want nothing to do with it.

[@The_Endless_Now]

@@archonthaaproducer Guess what Physical copies of games are just digital products on a storage medium

[@Olfan]

As a PC-only gamer, I love GoG's downloadable installers as the equivalent of physical media. I don't need a cartridge or a disc, but I do like having the installers on a storage box for the exact reasons you're stating here. GoG even goes as far as giving you the patched-up versions and all DLCs to download and preserve, and they often patch older games to run on modern PCs. I've been transitioning away from Steam towards GoG for this exact reason.

[@Manic_Panic]

I was initially going to get Vampire Bloodlines on Steam but I saw the GOG version came pre-patched with the Unofficial Patch mod which was nice so I paid a bit more and got the GOG version instead. For older games, yeah I would say GOG is the way to go, it's where I also got Hitman Silent Assassin uncensored (Steam version is censored).

[@artbyddp]

I heard GOG was going DRM.

[@Olfan]

@@artbyddp Where exactly did you hear that? Please link to a reliable source so you spread information, not rumours.

[@Ijustusethistocommentstuff]

I was honestly thinking of getting mgs 1 on GOG before the master collection came out.

[@xSaintxSmithx]

@@artbyddp GOG just REMOVED games from Ubisoft that had DRM and said they would never use DRM just earlier this year so I'm pretty sure you're just making shit up 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@__Rune__]

As a PC gamer I hate how everything is digital, steam might be convenient but I want my games in physical

[@Bodacious_Crustacious]

We should band together and build our own collections of physical game copies to save them.

[@brodiethegoaty849]

I got the ps2 and N64 classic collection to start it off. Who got the ps3 and xbox 360 bangers?

[@Bodacious_Crustacious]

@@brodiethegoaty849 I need to continue building my collection. Hope yours lasts for decades to come sir.

[@ampulsion]

Yeah I've been telling people about this for years especially when I talk about doing glitches that were patched out I call it reverse patching or reverse updating when you install the game offline and load your save and do whatever glitch you want to do

[@rga7099]

physicals are just so much more fun going to the story and buying a game and then putting in your collection and play it way more interactively. I just love the feeling of waiting for a game then when its finally out go to the store and pick it upp and play it all night.

[@checob224]

I feel in the same boat, I'm not gonna pay for a license that only allows me to download the game only when the servers are alive, the worst part is that if you want to copy that digital game to another system, you are not able to play thag game as easy as just inserting a disc and not needing for internet confirmation that you own the game.

[@jimbobbigknob2718]

As someone who's always lived in rural places, hard copies of games and movies have always been practically a necessity if you want to enjoy them because the internet isn't good enough to stream or download much

[@GoddDamn]

I also do not understand why the physical disc has been removed from most collector's editions but then still include the steelbook case for a disc.

[@oniryu1232]

I love physical media something about actually holding something feels so good, I really wish i would have keep a lot of my old games but being in my youth i was dumb.

[@lovelorn88nick]

Im so happy for this video, really getting sick of ALOT of people, and KZbinrs saying to just by digital

[@alphonsejohnson5601]

Emulate the game then.

[@lovelorn88nick]

@alphonsejohnson5601 how is that even a argument on this topic. Ima guess Gen Z?

[@juances]

IMO the issue isn't so much with us losing physical disks, what we need is the option to get the game installer so we can back it up on a disk or a flash drive or the cloud or wherever you want. GOG does this already, when you buy a game you can use their frontend platform thingy to manage it or you can just download the exe files and install the games the old way. TBH I'm all in for not wasting plastic and stuff on cds and their cases, more so if it ends up being a crappy game and the copies will just rot in some warehouse. Just offer the installer for those that do want to back the game up physically without generating extra landfill material.

[@Steast]

I feel the same way. Once physical copies are gone then so is my money for the company. Seeing servers for games I love make the entertainment obsolete has cemented my feelings towards digital.

[@osem598]

i pray that we one day get some sort of legislation that forces game companies to let us own our digital purchases. if I press the "buy" button, why do they turn around and say that the game is not bought, but leased right in their bullshit eula.

[@archonthaaproducer]

We need to be able to give away and trade our digital games. Imagine if Steam allowed me to transfer a key over to a friend. It would make the conversation a lot better for digital.

[@bristlesthistles]

4:38 is funnier after the completionist drama

[@Bully437]

Muta is the best jump-scare prankster I’ve ever seen

[@solarflarecj1067]

I like having both options, but there are some games that I will only buy in physical like totk and pokemon

[@gwektro]

23:56 - I felt that. I can live off a backlog for the rest of my life, literally. Companies really are about to find out how completely stupid getting rid of physical could be if they go through with it. Along with the stupid people thinking its a good idea on top of it. Also, I'm pretty sure Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo can decide if a digital license for a game that's added to their console stores should be regularly updated or not to a current version to preserve earlier releases of a game. At least on PS3, I recently downloaded a handful of Splinter Cell games that all needed to be updated to the latest version afterwards manually. IDK if that's unique or whatever, but companies can probably control that choice. I can already see a benefit of that with games like RE4 remake on PS5, where the speedrun is completely fucking dead if you have a digital copy of the game since Capcom proceeded to patch almost everything in the game AS WELL AS revert performance fixes in another update afterwards.

[@Leonard_Washington76]

Physical media needs to be around. Also put manuals and art work back in the physical media cases

[@Drequan]

i hate that this is the inevitable future but i'll never quit gaming 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@lonemaus562]

How are you still playing games now lmao everything to Come out in the last 6 years have been complete garbage

[@Maku98_]

@@lonemaus562 Elden Ring?

[@Blankjoyer_]

@@Maku98_Tears of the kingdom?

[@Drequan]

@@lonemaus562 elden ring, ragnarok, hades, rdr2, totk, re4, re2, god of war 2018, sekiro, dmc5, doom eternal, hi-fi rush, ff7, sifu, ghost of tsushima, spider-man 2 soon and wolverine ☠️

[@thekangaroo1880]

​@@lonemaus562I believe the last game that was decent was cyberpunk in 2020. Everything else like god of war and Elden ring sucked balls.

[@LittleHerdaz]

I love physical games, I would be so sad if they no longer existed :(

[@kabob0077]

Oh boy, Muta's on the War Path... And I have to say, it's a Path we need more people to be on. We NEED physical games and game preservation, I can't believe people want discs gone.

[@epicwildstar1918]

U talk like u know him like u are friends