TEMU Is Worse Than I Thought...

[@SomeOrdinaryGamers]

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[@Atokosmo]

I want a burrito

[@ItsmeFerox]

cool

[@timmyplays162]

Skibidi dop dop yes yes

[@fluffyhellspawn]

Ē

[@Ducky-wq6yj]

I want a taco

[@enterthenormie3999]

You can't shop like a billionaire without violating some human rights after all.

[@birdboy16]

What a world

[@TaeSunWoo]

THIS.

[@lunaticengineer8408]

o7 Man's speaking truth.

[@Unapologeticweeb]

Especially if your a company selling cheap Chinese knockoffs

[@elizabethmichaels3101]

Got a Temu ad while watching this video lol

[@The_Ragequit_Cannon]

As a general rule I avoid companies that use TTS or AI voice models in lieu of actual people for speech

[@barbaricboi8905]

I just got a Dr. squatch ad and idk how I feel cause it’s another one of those AI voiced ads that just talk about a huge deal, but they used to be super fucking interesting and unique with that blond bearded man

[@VnVnV-893]

Great general filter to use.

[@th00perman_]

But Elon Musk just told me that I need to invest in gold. ELON. MUSK.

[@Aaron-Fife]

That's a pretty good rule to have, actually. I have never bought anything from Temu, and I probably never will after seeing Muta's previous video about them that he made. Using AI voices instead of paying an actual human is shit behavior at its finest. Especially for a huge company like Temu. They make literally billions. The cost for paying a person to speak would be a drop in the bucket for them.

[@salineaddict9850]

@@barbaricboi8905 they make good stuff. I have used them for years, before they started going the tts ads. They did actual ads, with the blonde guy.

[@jasonpatterson8091]

Been saying this since Temu happened: Anything this cheap has to be letting something slide. You can't sell even trashy junk for these prices without worker abuse, environmental abuse, or more likely, both.

[@FukaiKokoro]

Any Chinese company is partially owned by the CCP. Which is responsible for the uyhgur genocide. Alot of people don't seem to understand what's exactly happening. Definitely something worth looking into if you don't know much about the uyhgur people.

[@vcool122]

this and stealing data

[@YillanTheVillain]

​@@vcool122Your profile pic goes hard, bro.

[@tomaszszupryczynski5453]

yeah? you watched wolf of wallstreet. and they still scam people. stock market is biggest scam

[@videogamefreak2001]

⁠@@YillanTheVillainbro, so does yours

[@asianmanfromasia]

I downloaded the app not too long ago and noticed the whole shopping experience felt more like a game. Constantly gettin pop ups like spin the wheel or time sensitive deals like free shipping. Really trying to bait you in to buying more and more items

[@zachariusd6473]

If you haven't, make sure to get rid of it. I can't imagine it's not spyware

[@jannikheidemann3805]

What you witnessed was the work of ruthless psychologists aiming to exploit the flaws in your psyche for profit.

[@connarish]

what jannik said. Its designed psychological manipulation AKA the "gamification" of consumerism. We are witnessing the lowest and most desperate time of capitalism.

[@asianmanfromasia]

@@connarish It’s crazy. I thought game micro-transactions were dumb, but this takes it to a whole new level

[@coletroutman1060]

Yeah it was pretty ridiculous, feels like those scam phone games that have an ad every 12 seconds. Also, my friend told me the night I downloaded it it’s a scam. I swear, I’ve received random texts and calls every day since downloading it… didn’t even buy anything, have not put my address on there (thank god)

[@theotherjared9824]

Any product that gets sponsored by a bunch of youtubers all at once is overpriced with better alternatives at best, and is an illegal scam at worst.

[@Joystickoperator]

FTX

[@wesss9353]

How about the Established Titles scam....

[@HaveanOreshnik]

that's capitalism baby

[@D44RK_Iced_Yogs]

Honestly I have no problem with some of them. I bought Raycons and although they are not my main earbud anymore they come in clutch when others break. I think a lot of them are good too, especially since some have been able to get past onto shelves in Target/Walmart. There’s a reason why people buy them and I think buying things that aren’t blatant scams are the best thing to support a creator besides donating or buying their merch/product.

[@andrewferguson6901]

That marketing budget ain't coming from nowhere, ahem nord vpn

[@LunaticKD1991]

Never trust a company saying they can sell you electronics for $1.

[@christownsend552]

I agree, just like don't listen to someone complain about paying $1 for said electronic, you get what you pay for, and if it sounds too good to be true, then it probably is

[@greebj]

There's individual electronic components that cost cents to make that are ok. I've bought quite a few over time, dip switches, LEDs, buck converters, resistors, wires, etc. But any finished product, yeah, totally agree, avoid.

[@HaveanOreshnik]

call me stupid but if it fell off a truck, maybe it isn't a knock off, stolen but better than a knock off

[@FukaiKokoro]

Never trust companies partially owned by the CCP. Any company like temu or wish uses uyhgur people for labor.

[@lop1652]

My Bluetooth receiver I got for 2 bucks works great tho.

[@yvaincallipso84]

"I need privacy not because my actions are questionable, but because your judgment and intentions are", perfect response to the "why are you scared if you have nothing to hide!"

[@bestrafung2754]

That's a great argument actually. I'm a university student and wouldn't let some random guy from outside into my flat. Not because I have anything to hide, I don't know his intentions and would rather not lose my expensive laptop with work on it!

[@NunoFilipe99]

Privacy, safety and private property are 3 waaaaay different things.

[@1MusicsMyLife1]

Welcome to the 2A club!

[@talkingthetalk3640]

​@@1MusicsMyLife1🤡

[@shabath]

On the other side of the argument, in the last 4 months I've seen 3 people call Muta a pdf.file for defending privacy, using linux, and apparently for knowing how to run tor browser. Apparently only heinous criminals care about privacy or who has access to your data. There is no arguing these people, they do not care, just drink the milk and thank the police officer for not violating you today.

[@sui11106]

I hate that the public won't pay attention to the slave labor aspect, but would rather pay attention to the fact it's taking your information

[@Eirinen_E34]

Both are bad, who wants their biometrics stolen, but obviously, the slave labour is worse

[@UrsusHaitch]

yeah i also found it weird how this is brushed over like it’s not a bad thing. it’s the most important topic in regards to these websites

[@CharSimmy]

​@BoogyMushrooms harsh truth! Most people only care about issues when it directly affects them

[@glory3670]

Amazon does the same thing on the spying. No idea on the slave labor.

[@puppycatsupremacy]

because most brands use slave labour, that's why people pay more attention to personal info theft. we're all too accustomed to buying things made in sweat shops.

[@SomeplaceScary]

Temu is selling a cheap low quality knock off of an original, from-scratch design from a small time independent jewelry maker I follow. She supports her family with her job, and they absolutely refused to do anything about it when she filed complaints against them, and she just eventually stopped selling that design because she couldn't compete with the knock-off.

[@zeddwulfen7737]

Who is the maker?

[@therealevilmudbug]

Which product?

[@ls200076]

What did she do?

[@SomeplaceScary]

@@therealevilmudbugoriginal necklace design is a hand-made silver(?) and semi-precious stone half-circle shaped necklace with various moon phases arranged on it.

[@superring5297]

​@user-ez7ed7kd8e when you can't outsell a trillion dollar company stealing your work (it's a free market so obviously you weren't good enough)

[@lordmarshmal_0643]

Still love Nintendo's refusal to take down knock-off products that're actively being sold for profit yet will absolutely shit on those that make their stuff just for free, for the sake of passion

[@cshimi]

or totally shitting on the youtuber/modding community, because god forbid someone alters nintendos property

[@johntracy72]

​@@cshimior posts a let's play video of one of their games.

[@johntracy72]

They went after Gary Bowser more because of his last name than for selling software that modifies the Switch to allow pirated copies of games to be played on the system.

[@wtfftw3000]

That Internet mario +18 game a couple of years ago was pretty wild, though😂

[@thesixth2330]

Free stuff is much more widely used... Nintendo Japan suck, they like most companies only care about money.

[@kylemullet1]

temu is the epitome of fast fashion and them having a "sustainability pledge" is like exxon calling themselves sustainable

[@alyssahansen1400]

Funnily enough I have seen a few greenwashing Exxon commercials about. I wonder if there is anybody who believes them.

[@azizkash286]

It is called greenwashing.

[@Knowbody42]

Exporting your CO2 emissions to China, then telling everyone how green you are.

[@kylemullet1]

@@alyssahansen1400 I've seen them too, it's both hilarious and frustrating

[@memevondank1197]

"We have investigated ourselves and found absolutely nothing wrong"

[@robynbrown8071]

I honestly cannot believe Temu is a thing, a lot of humans are so funking dumb it hurts my heart and head

[@J3nnyDBD]

You do realise a large portion of the world is poor right? These sites are probably the only places they can shop

[@funsize69]

​@@J3nnyDBD yeah nah. As a poor person, that's bs. You have to use temu if you're poor and still wanna partake in late stage consumerism, which is NOT a necessity. But even if that was the case, there's no way that temu was as huge as it is, if only people used it, who genuinely wouldn't have any other choice.

[@Moonless87]

​@@J3nnyDBDuh, I'm considered poor and buy a lot of clothes from fleemarkets, my country has a lot of them and even people who aren't poor by any means use them. No need to buy stuff from temu, unless you want to support child labour and most of the stuff that they sell at temu is useless crap anyway that nobody needs, or clothes that will last like 2 months before breaking.

[@BillionairesArentYourFriends]

I'm poor and I'll choose garage sales, goodwill, or making my own clothes. It's really not that hard. Cost me a few bucks to make a dress that looks $100 and last forever. No one needs Temu. They need brains.

[@Deceit-hx7ey]

@@BillionairesArentYourFriends being a minimalistic, good lord how many people i know who consantly buy unnecesarry crap from these shitsites.

[@rootfish2671]

How anyone can not spot Temu as a massive scam from a mile away is baffling.

[@franniepan]

I've had so many friends and acquaintances brag about the cheap stuff they bought from temu. These are all parents buying clothes and toys for their kids. I get it, things are getting more and more expensive, but it really surprised me how quickly people give in to these shady companies.

[@AlexaFaie]

Notice how noone is talking about wish which they stopped using because they finally realised just how badly treated all the various sweatshop workers were plus how shoddy everything was, plus how dangerous the materials used were when not being imported properly (don't have to follow laws governing lead in paint for example if there's no importer testing stuff). And then suddenly temu pops up? And everyone seems to think this time its somehow going to be better? Ummm....

[@cheetah219]

Wish is still extremely popular honestly. Had to convince a lot of older folks to stop using it and the only way was to show them how shit quality the products were. People can't wrap their heads around how someone can fake a cell phone and write fake reviews.

[@aegisScale]

As baffling as it may seem, these companies are fucking devious and will either try every trick in the book or write new tricks into the book to fool people into eating up the same slop again. People like us may see through it, as we have many other scams, but we still gotta stay vigilant and not blame the people roped into this shit. They're victims of the evil people behind these scams, and if we're not careful, we might become one of those people one day.

[@TrippyTCG]

Bro temu got me lookin fresh af for under $20. Nice shorts, sick shirt, nice sunglasses, nice bracelet. Shoes and watch not from temu tho lol

[@vibinglemon6156]

When Aliexpress is more trustworthy than your own store, you know you've got a problem

[@legozackproduct111]

Ali Express is one of the few Chinese stores I can actually trust

[@Infodumptruck]

AliExpress is the same bs, just 1% more reliable

[@Emot10ns]

Temu would be more like Wish, which is another scam app/storefront where I legit wonder how people actually use it knowing half the shit on it is fake.

[@toonahaf]

@@legozackproduct111i actually rly like that they let manufacturers have a lil second for talking about their company n staff :) the good companies will post tons of pics n videos of workers n they look like they’re being paid fairly

[@toonahaf]

at least the ones i’ve seen :p

[@Mikemic2218]

I work for the US postal service. We're flooded with these temu products and they're legit taking up too much space in warehouses and shipping centers. We're unable to get civilian mail and packages out on time due to having to do these first. These things also cause issues with the mail sorting machines. They sometimes get caught IN the belts and stop the machines. They're so poorly packaged and sometimes bulky and heavy that they take up alot of space in air mail bags.

[@itsasquid]

I remember hearing the same thing from a tiktok from a another usps or ups worker. It's ridiculous.

[@awesomeferret]

As someone who used to work for UPS, people complaining about temu packages is too funny. How do you not realize what a self-own that is? Temu packages ARE "civilian mail". I dislike Temu too, but Amazon packages their things just as badly and you know it. It reflects very poorly on your character to complain about people who you will never meet buying packages that don't matter at all to you. Shaming people for buying "too much" from one company never ends well (I guess it did for you somehow though, you got 15 upvotes).

[@Mikemic2218]

@@awesomeferret there's nothing wrong with doing these packages. It however slows down priority mail that has to be shipped out on time. It's why where I work, we do 4 or 5 boxes of temu. Then get priority mail done. If we run out of priority that's when we go back to doing whatever temu products are lying around that haven't been sorted. The issue with temu for the usps is their packaging is very poor. It's bulky, flimsy and sometimes gets stuck in the belts of sorting machines which in turn slows the system down and delays the shipping out of mail we're trying to process on time.

[@chilomine839]

Its the irl version of internet spam.

[@poshpickle9024]

@@awesomeferretfr, how is that person complaining about temu packages taking up time to deliver 😂 there are genuine complaints against temu but that is just a reach

[@tmebmb238]

When you look in the sex toy section of Temu there’s literally thousands of “real doll” silicon babies that can eat and “wet” themselves. So yeah def not impressed with Temu at all. They’re not listed as sex toys originally but they come up and that’s disturbing. They are very VERY realistic too. Some you can choose the gender of so they are obviously molding explicit things on the dolls aswell. 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@mariatwilightsparkle2593]

*WHAT THE FUCK*

[@tmebmb238]

@@mariatwilightsparkle2593 yup

[@christopherjones8448]

Okay but why though? I'd like to hope it's like steam and users are posting those tags because they think they are funny but even then.. Why do those need to exist..?

[@bubblymilkshake9055]

​@@mariatwilightsparkle2593 I HAVE NO WORDS.

[@themonkeylarry5000]

I wouldn't ever EVER trust a company that sells products for as cheap as what's shown. Even if it was Amazon, I wouldn't trust it

[@bluetiger2468]

Exactly, if it's too cheap to be true, then it's a scam.

[@maximusstorm1215]

This is normal in a lot of places, though. I assume you're talking about tax? Tax is often included in the final price in many places, it is where I live, the final price in the UK is always the actual price. If you don't mean tax, then idk what you're talking about lol.

[@m0nookiE]

You trust amazon?

[@johntaranto29]

@@bluetiger2468 no they do sell a lot of crap thats decent for the price, the issue is china having your data and slave labor. Disregard my user name as bias, the genocide stuff is horrible. I don't have proof Temu uses slave labor but I wouldn't be surprised.

[@jenkhemhuffersanonymous3990]

​@@maximusstorm1215what are you on about a 1$ t shirt isn't a normal price how is it that hard to understand all the prices on Temu aren't normal if you think they're normal your Chinese

[@GrayD_Fox]

When I saw them destroying boxes of switches saying “why is no one buying” in broken English, I knew it was a scam.

[@americankid7782]

That was the first time I saw them, and the last time I trusted them.

[@zachanikwano]

Those ads 🤮

[@mcflurryfrostie]

It's like they're literally begging you to use their app 💀 So pathetic

[@-Plube-]

My brain is so good at ignoring scammy looking ads that I didn’t even realize what u we’re talking about there for a second lmaoo

[@superalatreon1]

​@@americankid7782wait, where did you guys see that video? Is it like an exposè or something? I wanna watch it and send it to my friend

[@animalmace]

Bro Temu can't stop emailing me, it's CRAZY

[@HPsawus]

Lord knows I would falter for that bag😔

[@roshanpalsingh8089]

Unsub from it lol

[@AshleyFromTX]

@@roshanpalsingh8089 I think he’s saying Temu won’t stop emailing him about sponsorship opportunities.

[@ThePaperKhan]

I know you probably mean a sponsorship, but a couple of months ago they wouldn't stop texting me from multiple different numbers with ads. I've heard that's illegal or something where I live and it stoped after a little. Very annoying

[@HaveanOreshnik]

is there no unsubscribe button for the emails?

[@captaindanger13]

As someone who used Temu before all this info came out, yeah Temu is basically just a Wish clone, but with some actually official merchandise like the nintendo switch that comes directly from japan (I know this because they were selling a switch oled at a $20 or so discount, so I got one cuz I really wanted one, and there are never any discounts on switches in america as far as i know, and the box was in japanese). I did find the website a bit suspicious tho because when I was done using that site for good, I deleted my account, but then when I put in my old log in info just to see if it deleted it long after the month or so that it takes to fully go through with the deletion, the account still existed. You cannot delete your account. I removed as much personal info as I could before the deletion, but I have a feeling they probably still have all that somehow since the account itself can't even be deleted.

[@antyvirusuk8056]

you know it's bad when temu are making ads to try and convince you they arent fake or sketchy

[@Drstrange3000]

"BoSs, PeOpLe ThInK iT's FaKe. BuT lEnOvO iS aN iNtErNaTiOnAl BrAnD"

[@SHADOMEGA7569]

as they use that annoying AF Female TTS voice and add SFXs over the video

[@User-kq3od]

Yeah. If it wasnt literally too good to be true I wouldnt need you to tell me its not too good to be true. TEMU loses on average 20-30 dollars per purchase. Their entire dev team worked on another chinese app that was banned for installing mobile spyware.

[@SaltyAsTheSea]

Legit got one of those as I clicked the video 😂

[@davidhubbard8353]

Couldn't have said it better myself. Not only that, but the fact that it's still going as strong as it is a year later. I thought it would be a fad that would die out pretty quickly with how junky the $0.05 products would be, but people still eat this shit up...

[@whiterunguard1434]

The moment I heard their "Shopping like a Billionaire" commercial, I knew i was the shadiest company alive right now. The way they tried to appeal to Americans and slowly over time has honed their advertisements to target American buyers specifically is actually terrifying. Look for their first ad, now look at their current one. Edit: To be clear I don't mean the ads are targeted only to Americans, just the way the ads present themselves seems very American consumerism targeted. Maybe thats just me reading too deep tho

[@nunpho]

Yeah that tagline is hilariously awful

[@whiterunguard1434]

@@nunpho Not only is it awful, but think about how obvious the targeting is to American buyers in specific. Thats the most terrifying aspect to me. Its like they were dangling shiney keys and waiting to see who grabbed.

[@ThatSingleGame]

Not only americans. I also get the same yt ad in the netherlands

[@whiterunguard1434]

@@ThatSingleGame Well I mean that they are targeted at Americans. Other countries get them I'm sure but I feel like it Targets the American obsession with hyper consumerism and the need to "feel like a billionaire". Maybe I'm reading too far into it, but from the music to the film making of the advertisements down to the way they speak to me indicates they are focusing on a specific demographic.

[@deltasaves]

​@@whiterunguard1434it very much does. That was their first major goal: to replace Amazon as an online shipping platform for The States. The ads are aggressive and have started to show up in other languages I dabble in.

[@Demi-Fiend76]

When something sounds to good to be true it usually is.

[@williebeemin22]

Im a regular guy as far as I know, I ordered 300$ worth of temu stuff to try it out and for the most part I liked what I got. I was surprised. I met a guy at the bar the other day who complimented my hoodie I got off of temu and I asked his group of friends to guess where I got it. He guessed temu some how and then showed me his shoes that he bought and loved so much that he bought 5 more pairs just the same. Its defiantly hit or miss, but I was happy and clearly so was this guy. As far as breaking rules and slave labor and china nonsense, thats another story, but I liked the stuff i got!! lol

[@MintBerryCrunch]

I get tons of stuff for my family from temu and this places is awesome

[@MintBerryCrunch]

@@williebeemin22anyone that buys apple or Nike uses the same labor or any other name brand in the United States

[@evilleader1991]

I ordered tons of stuff off Temu and received every item? I mean the thing is def not a scam, I dont know how ethical their practices are but then again if you think that well recognized brands in the west are ethical them i got a bridge to sell you

[@mawangshallhang]

@@evilleader1991Enjoy having all your data leaked and known by them then.

[@princessolmeca2933]

Of course I got a Temu ad a third of the way in this video. I never trusted Temu from the day I first saw their ads on KZbin. Temu is the textbook definition of the phrase, "If something's too good to be true, it probably isn't."

[@icantgetridofthisusernamehelp]

I can't get my older relatives to stop buying shit off of this godforsaken app. I love my grandmother and appreciate that she loves buying things for her grandkids but if she buys me one more cheap ass pair of shoes off of Temu I will scream. Shoes that have fallen apart a week later. Her whole wardrobe is Temu. SHE BUYS HER WIGS FROM TEMU. She's addicted and I can't get her to stop.

[@biteofdog]

Who knows what chemicals are in those products, it's not regulated or quality tested.

[@nunpho]

That's wild!

[@RandumbThings]

Is she aware of the child sl*very they're doing to make their stuff so cheap? I dont care if it's $0.01, I will not support it.

[@daaaaaaanny]

God I'm in the exact same boat. My parents will buy something off temu, it'll break in 2 days, they'll wonder why it was so low quality, then continue to buy more crap. Temu has figured out the perfect way to get older people hooked on spending money, it's depressing.

[@icantgetridofthisusernamehelp]

@@daaaaaaanny And trying to convince them that they're blowing money on horseshit is like pulling teeth. I have tried time and time again to explain that fast fashion is just not worth it. It's a waste of fucking money. If it looks too good to be true, IT IS. This is the generation that taught us that, and here they are, spending "seventy cents" on a fucking 80" TV. I mean come on!!

[@42saram42]

I find companies that come out of nowhere able to push tons of ads and pay youtubers to be suspicious immediately. It's weird to me to just trust a random ad or sponsorship without doing some research before using it. Especially a site or app that offers products so cheaply, because if they are making enough money off super cheap junk they are almost certainly using slave labor, unsafe materials, and/or stolen goods.

[@greensheen8759]

They're just throwing a TON of money into their ad campaigns

[@PartyPhil1]

The entire ordeal is highly suspect

[@ArjunTheRageGuy]

I bet youtubers did that for advertisement money and probably also monetization

[@adamofblastworks1517]

That reminds me of the time some crypto scam invited Edward Snowden to speak at their big convention. He did make a video call, and said not to trust them and that it was likely a scam. That was hilarious. What did they think he would say?

[@raccoonhatcity7627]

Temu has a strong commitment to environmentally painting the hills green.

[@thegrimharvest]

With glow in the dark radium and lead paint, mixed with whatever bits were leftover from political prisoners who had their organs harvested and sold on the black market and their connective tissues processed into asbestos flavored dog food, now with more of that sweet sweet asbestos that (American) dogs love.

[@gotthatdawg-lh8yb]

gotta impress winnie the poos henchmen

[@yogfan1139]

dont you mean red? /j

[@aegisScale]

Temu. Making Thneedville look like a natural paradise one tree at a time.

[@zenochara7522]

@@yogfan1139no he said what he said.

[@ZipplyZane]

Another possible use for in-app screenshot taking abilities: for recovering after Android suspends the app. You can display a screenshot of the previous page while you're reloading the app, perhaps with some "waiting" animation on top of it if it lasts too long. It makes your app look more responsive.

[@banban6202]

I've seen so many people on Facebook sharing those coins-related Temu ads, and saying "Please guys this is real I know many people who got the gifts I really want the tablet". To think that people are so blinded by it, it really looks like a cult

[@mfaseop3324]

Called my friend a bot because he was spamming links to me from temu

[@ccricers]

It feels too MLM-like which is why I got suspicious about it

[@jamesp1389]

​@@mfaseop3324deadset exact same thing with my friends.

[@blackmoon9511]

It DOES work, I foolishly did it before, twice, but it game-ifies it in a way that forces you to have like 8-10 invites accepted before it works, but then they instantly send it.

[@blackmoon9511]

Still wouldn't do it again tho

[@brzdai]

temu also charged random people hundreds of dollars for no reason. when the users asked for a refund it was declined. i’ve heard about that happening in at least five different cases.

[@Slashx92]

TEMU has been bombarding me with ads. I instantly thought it was a wish/shein/etc type of e-coomerce. Glad to know I wasn't wrong, and that it's probably worse than those I mentioned

[@unknownhuman6226]

Everything wrong with shein

[@JuniortheDerp]

Tee mew

[@badfeng]

Another thing I seldom hear mentioned is Western subsidization of Chinese shipping. There's an old shipping treaty that's the cause of this. Essentially we're made to pay for China's shipping through out inflated domestic shipping rates.

[@codyryan9789]

curse them out ocer the phone

[@M1N1molo]

I could immediately tell from the ads. An insanely strong gut feeling just creeped me the fuck out. It’s like I feel with TikTok, but a thousand times over. The loudness, the affirmation of realness, and the broken English got me weirded out, but it was really the 79¢ switch or whatever nonsense that gave me the creeps. I will never, in my lifetime, download temu.

[@sugarbear88]

Same company lmao bytedance!!

[@fortemeria_]

Never understood why people praise temu so much, even in my friend circle. It's literally the same bs as wish was.

[@frankensteingrrrls]

@@Hulkachanwhat do you mean 💀

[@nanoswagger]

​@@Hulkachan nahhh not you bruh 😭

[@asole100]

Same, and when I tell them about the slavery part they brush it off even though there are many women who have tried to come out about it who have had their husbands taken away but had to do it in code till the CCP cracked down on it, and they had to result to just making videos of them smiling or crying in front of their loved one's pictures.

[@L_ISF99929]

​@@HulkachanCan I have what your smoking?

[@ContendCreators]

Wish,made by CCP

[@3up3rn0va]

I always knew Temu was suspicious anything that sells things that cheap can’t be legal. Sure it’s a marketing ploy, and you honestly get what you pay for. But child labor and malware? No thanks I’m good bro. I hope they are investigated because if those are true that’s horrible!

[@sashamoore9691]

So how does Walmart sell cheap goods at RETAIL pricing if that were the case??? Hmm… sounds like ur biased towards the consumer getting the goods wholesale instead of garbage ass corporations and small businesses that sell that junk back to us for a significant profit.

[@davidbiagi2932]

Those are just allegations. Nobody has shown any proof of child labor or anything illegal. Most everything we buy could be sold for those cheap prices temu has, but most companies just mark up their product 500x their cost and rip off their costumers. Atleast temu keeps their prices how they should be and just because something is cheap doesn’t mean there’s some shit going on illegally. They aren’t claiming to sell high end stuff, it’s just cool little small cheap things you can buy.

[@Esoteraeon]

​@@davidbiagi2932I agree with this! I did a comparison between Amazon and Temu stuff out of curiosity and so many sellers on Amazon buy from the same distributors as Temu and then mark it up in their store. I think Temu keeps it cheap by getting it directly from distributors since they're located in China

[@symbiotezilla12345]

Isn’t that pretty much nikes and apple

[@bok9596]

Plenty of people have reported cases of never getting the stuff they buy from temu, so..

[@TheMostOrdinaryMan]

Glad people are finally waking up to this. Been trying to warn people ever since Temu came out, but people prefer cheap products over value and safety. To highlight one of the replies, the uyhgur people are being brutally forced to work for companies such as Temu and Shein and should be talked about way more.

[@HaveanOreshnik]

true however when it comes to finding value, people can be scalpers too, there should be balanced

[@FukaiKokoro]

Glad people are FINALLY talking about the uyhgur people. Also china for some reason gets free mail to the US. That's why they are also able to do such low prices for shipping

[@jessicakakern4571]

I can't help but feel like Amazon and Walmart are guilty of the exact same things but priced higher. They just lobby to keep it hidden

[@HaveanOreshnik]

oh my goodness, please give me some links to the "genocide" i will helpfully click and see the source, please enlighten me @@FukaiKokoro

[@thecheeseman31415]

Were there actually people who thought it was legit?

[@Worm-revolver]

KZbin and Google should definitely be held accountable too.

[@JamesNeutron115]

I saw ads of them whining about how people aren’t buying products from their website. Shows how much you SHOULDN’T trust them even more.

[@fohatadri]

The fact that even the biggest youtube tech channels don't do their research before taking the sponsored money when all this shit is literally publicly available speaks volumes about their integrity.

[@darilaho]

Linus?

[@imapotato7391]

Not a tech youtuber but I had watched a youtuber whose main content was spreading awareness about misinformation and false advertisements for products be sponsored by Temu. Its very disappointing seeing a well-researched and respectable channel be tainted in favor in taking whatever garbage sponsorships available to them.

[@PrincessofKeys]

You can't judge them just because they do these offers not everyone knows everything or think about sping that research. Not everyone don't think the same either its just we are different.

[@rpm10k.]

You think they don't do their research? It's all about them dollar signs my man

[@Slashx92]

​@@PrincessofKeysSure we are all different, but when your channel is about scams, technology, security, or any other adjacent topic, there is no excuse to use TEMU as a sponsor. An emerging anime youtuber having a raid shadow legends ad? sure mate, get that bag. Muthahar or someone like coffeezilla or mental outlaw having a raid shadow legends ad? gross

[@IJNAoba9-25-26]

A big rule of thumb I have in life now is if the majority of youtubers start talking about a product or service I have not heard of before, AVOID at all costs.

[@watsonwrote]

Right? The only product I've ever used from a KZbin sponsorship was BackBlaze, and I only ever saw them sponsor one KZbinr. Anything that starts popping up in tons of different videos seems useless or sketchy.

[@zenochara7522]

your right. SHEIN, Established Titles, Temu.

[@BillionairesArentYourFriends]

I also don't trust what they're not talking about. Avoid seed oils. Switch to only EEOG (Extra Virgin Olive Oil). Your gut and psyche will thank you later. And if you want to look into why, I'm sorry for your innocence lost. It's a rabbit hole that is unbelievable.

[@kddicks5115]

I am guilty of Temu shopping…I don’t buy clothes, but I buy craft stuff just because it’s soooo much cheaper. Not proud of buying from them…but I live below the poverty line and some of the things I enjoy doing can be expensive. Thank you for this…I won’t be doing business with them ANYMORE.👍👍 ✌️❤️😊

[@MCLuviin]

The slaves making the items arent even on the poverty scale

[@XSlimSxadyX]

@@MCLuviinthey said they aren’t going to shop there anymore and they were unaware

[@katietree4949]

How did people not see how temu was sketch since day one!? I passed the first day I heard of temu, and will continue to pass. Temu & Raid Shadow Legends are an immediate red flag.

[@thevalorousdong7675]

First time I heard of it, I called it the wish version of wish

[@joaopedrodebarrosdaeira5466]

​@@thevalorousdong7675lmaooooo

[@blastortoise]

It's definitely shady, but I call bullshit anytime somebody says "I knew it from the start!" yeah sure bud.

[@SHADOMEGA7569]

someone shared it to me over discord as an asking favor, ive seen some ads showing it off and passed it off as the next wish. then i used the app for like 5 minutes and realized it forces you to recommend to friends. but hearing it is malicious malware and spyware makes sense why they want recommendations after cheating you out of free gifts to force you right there to get more people. i immediately told the person that shared me the link and told them "this is just Wish 2.0"

[@MultiCool55]

@@blastortoise Day 1 their prices were already laughably low, temu was always a blatant scam to anybody with a functioning brain.

[@NumbersToThePowerOf2]

I am thankful several large channels are talking about the security risk, including yours. It's much easier to explain and get people to listen when their ass is at risk then just the design theft that is rampant on these apps which only affects artists, designers, and crafters that aren't the general public.

[@daaaaaaanny]

Even that won't stop a lot of people. My mom's response to being told temu may be spying on her was "so what? I've got nothing to hide"

[@neo-didact9285]

If it's too good to be true, it most likely is. I always knew there was something sussy about this company selling all sorts of knick knacks (like a garage sale) trying so hard to advertise itself, and the sussy low prices. Glad I never gave them a dime.

[@he8535]

Literally got a temu ad before watching this

[@ccricers]

What I found it suspect is the random people mentioning how they bought something from that place, as if they are part of a MLM or have some other financial incentive to refer people

[@echo_soldier]

@@ccricers Don't know if it was in a video Mutahar made, but Temu uses an extremely predatory and gambling-like referral system. They get coupons and stuff for referring. "Just refer one more person, and you'll get 70% off this thing!" "One more referral, and you can spin this wheel!"

[@wyvern3141]

thats because it is! in order to get certain free things, like a free nintendo switch, you had to recruit others to the app and have them make a purchase, up to like hundreds of users recruited to get whatever you wanted for free

[@evilleader1991]

I received all items i ordered from there, wouldnt call that a scam

[@smoothestofbrains]

I got a Temu ad before the video. I hate their ads.

[@chadisnotachad]

I do blame creators for taking shady sponsorships. They have the ability to say no, but choose to take the money anyway. Making a video about Temu isn't bad, obviously. But taking that sponsorship is unethical.

[@joaxarkus4648]

Shame that when you do try to call those creators out their community tries to justify them taking the sponsorship money, from a company using actual slave labor and engaging in borderline criminal if not purely criminal activity, is just "Well they have to eat, right?" And, "They have to get paid somehow.". That reasoning/mentality is why we've gotten to this point of throwing everything out the window in exchange for money. Rationalizing unethical behavior with lackluster excuses is conistently happening in society now and I'm tired of seeing it. Thanks for still being one of the few people I've seen on here actually still call these fools out. They do deserve it no matter how much these creators' fans say otherwise.

[@twizzlytwist]

Not every creator is in the financial situation to be able to say no

[@Slashx92]

Yeah, a small content creator accepting a raid sponsor is one thing, a very big channel with a whole ass team behind accepting a TEMU sponsor? yeah dude you just want the bag and have 0 morals

[@koilamaoh4238]

Meh more power to creators, why not, its free $$$, bleed those sponsors dry.. if muta was sponsor by them? would i care? no.. would i buy it ? No.. Just like your ball shaving kits.. NO . I doubt anyone buys anything from sponsors, maybe a tiny %. If they are willing to shill for whatever product, go for it, take advantage; most people are aware anyway on how crappy lot of these things are.

[@BONERCRUSHER]

​​@@twizzlytwist if you are strapped so badly you take a sponsorship for a shitty company, just know that your fans will instantly realize you're in it for the money. And not for anything else.

[@RomnysGonzalez]

I love how US decided to investigate TEMU, but don't investigate Nike,Apple and other US companies for their slavery on their factories outside of US. I don't support any company, but i just would like for them to be morally correct and investigate all sides instead of turning the blind eye on their native companies and go full force for foreigners ones

[@ElJosher]

Cause china.

[@frankieb9444]

They don't investigate those companies because executives in those companies give our politicians money. Not really hard to understand

[@nocause5395]

None of the companies you mention sell as much shit as TEMU, wish and SHEIN. Also, shit on Apple Nike, and the others has been talked about for years. TEMU is new

[@vincentvalentine4401]

Because it's from an enemy country. That's why.

[@nocause5395]

@@frankieb9444 seriously those have been investigated years. How hard is it for you guys to Google, and TEMU is new that’s why people are speaking about it. I understand if you haven’t heard of it if you’re like three years old but if you’re old enough to type on a computer, just look for Google.

[@mr.melancholy4973]

I already didn't trust Temu. Glad to know they're just as disgusting I thought.

[@auggie9438]

Also planting trees will NEVER be able to make up for the massive amounts of waste generated by this rampant hyper consumerism even if 100% of their labor was ethical

[@ClaySano]

It's wild that the US and most "first world" UN countries subsidize Chinese mail (including Temu, Aliexpress, etc.). They get free mailing in these because they claim to be a "third world" country in the Universal Postal Treaty.

[@KahruSuomiPerkele]

Chinese companies are also subsidized by the chinese government when selling overseas. Europe only realized that it was a problem recently when it started to import chinese EV cars.

[@crunchyfrog555]

Yeah, the CCP LOVE to play fast and loose with the rules. Devloping country when it comes to postage, not so much when it comes to a space programme.

[@azenyr]

​@@KahruSuomiPerkelechinese EV cars in Europe has been a HUGE wakeup call for everyone, from consumers, to EU EV auto makers, to the EU management itself. It all started when VW group did everything they could and got till the end of the world trying to make the cheapest but still reliable and fairly built with fair wages (VW builds cars in EU countries paying EU wages with mostly EU sourced materials) EV ever but still couldn't get it bellow 25k€ (The still unreleased ID.2). But suddently brands like BYD and Aiways appeared out of nowhere, with "not bd" cars with awesome specs for even cheaper than that. Specs from a 70k car in a 20k price tag. This was a huge wakeup call and EU finally found out that these chinese brands are subsidised by the CCP. EU has now changed the law and only lets them sell them if they are not subsidized (so the CCP can't come and say they own EU cars because they paid 50% of them), are built fairly (who knows...) and above all, if they can actually guarantee a minimum level of safety and durability and support. Also they cannot sell directly to consumers anymore. They need to use importers and resellers, to make sure that the EU citizens can trust and have support from a EU company (reseller) and have a trustable warranty. This has raised chinese EV prices a lot, but I am with the EU on this. People will buy whatever is cheapest no matter how trash it is. If there is no consumer protection rules like these, in a very few years most citizens would be left with an unsupported, non-working, unfixable brick in their garages. A car is supposed to last for 10-15 years, not 2. European brands lasts a long time, we can't say the same from the chinese counterparts. If there were no rules, the EU brands would eventually be forced to also make trash quality just to be able to compete with those prices. Then we would only have trash untrustable cars for sale from all brands. Chinese brands destroy economies, especially when they sell trash and are even subsidized by the CCP. Nothing can compete.

[@greensheen8759]

​@@azenyrughhhh the idea of bricked EVs everywhere is nightmare fuel

[@crunchyfrog555]

@@weird-guy Because Chinese EVs are utter shit. BYD EVs are notirous for poor build uality as are Great Wall. Chinese social media has tons and tons of evidence of them catching fire, falling apart or faults galore. Please don't pull that wumao stuff here.

[@TheKeller101]

I got an email from Temu using my full name saying that someone had logged into my Temu account and verifying if it was me, pretty standard stuff. Except that I do not have a Temu account and the only way they offered to contact any form of customer support was to make an account. So yeah, I trust Temu about as far as I can throw them. EDIT: Turns out Google kept me logged in when I visited their site and that's how they got my information. Still pisses me off as I never asked to 'sign in via Google'

[@melindasmith3713]

I've gotten fraud emails from PayPal look alike. It happens

[@asmileisspecial]

Same and I freaked. Turns out my mother signed up using my email address and now I’m annoyed because I never wanted them to have my data and until I unsubscribed I was getting multiple spammy promotional emails a day,

[@reallifefiasco]

Please don't use Google. It is so invasive. Even with a VPN, Google will ignore it and still show your actual location.

[@kittykittybangbang9367]

​@@reallifefiascoGoogle search engine? Google Chrome? or Gmail?

[@Jart988]

Me too, and I'm in Latin America. This time it said that I was selected for a customer loyalty program *FREE*!!! and that I could receive a TEMU Pallet as a reward for answering a survey… But after copying and pasting the link on TOR, its seems is a fake page that is no longer up.

[@masterseal0418]

My mom was aware that TEMU is nothing short of a scam when she saw clothes that cost $1. And I we thought Wish is the worst online thrift retailer. We were wrong, and TEMU was given the crown. They’re absolutely shameless of what they usually sell, tbh. It’s unacceptable towards us.

[@Noobiescrubpleb]

It's not a scam. Everything I've ordered arrived as described. A bad company? Sure, but not a scam.

[@lelofahon]

​@@Noobiescrubplebwell it's either you or the workers who get scammed

[@Noobiescrubpleb]

@@lelofahon So it's the workers getting scammed then, because I'm not lol

[@lelofahon]

@@Noobiescrubpleb yes Someone always comes short with shitty cheap stuff Most likely child work or workers who get paid nearly nothing under inhumane working standards How do you think they keep the low cost? If someone is winning (you-price, owner-lots of cash) someone is losing (in this case the workers) Just take shein as example

[@mem7806]

its not a scam its just shit most of the time

[@R3SerialDreams]

Over ten years of quality content and still going strong. Keep up the good work, Muta!

[@lshadowblaze]

I received a Temu ad while watching this. I have been warning family and friends to avoid this app. People don't do their research.

[@chuggon7595]

My mother bought something off of TEMU, I shit you not that 2 days later all her credit card info was stolen from Temu and was used to purchase random shit.

[@gulliblelime2860]

as someone who used temu for awhile, the sales dont go away. I full heartedly believe that all sales they claim to be holding is the actual price of the item they sell it for. they often make things seem limited to make you buy something before its "gone" and even if something isnt on sale, it stays the same price it wouldve been had it been on sale. basically they use weird tactics to get you to buy more, which is probably why people flock to the app and why i started using it myself. I dont plan on buying anymore items from them, but from when I used to this is what I noticed :/

[@gulliblelime2860]

by the way, these arent really bad things theyve done, but i personally find it "rigged arcade game" kinda sketchy. I havent seen any apps use the tactics they use

[@uwuifyingransomware]

I haven’t used it myself but I do see that every time you open the app or website there’s a wheel spin it forces you to do that either gives you a huge discount or credit immediately, or lets you spin again until you get that. It’s so weird, exactly the strategy I’d expect in a gambling app. My roommate has weekly meetings for work over zoom where they have to talk about something good that happened to them this week, and for a while I’d overhear everyone (not exaggerating) talk about how they got $100 of temu credit or whatever.

[@tk-oyote]

I can't remember, but isn't doing that an actual crime in the US? I might be wrong but I swear it was

[@alexnorth2452]

​@@tk-oyote im not sure, but indirectly it isn't, if you keep track of prices for a particular item, the prices tend to go up a bit before a sale, and then the sale knocks the price down back to or near the original, also alot of times the price will not return to the original but sit slightly higher for awhile, so they still nail you for the full amount one way or another

[@Rentef93]

Yeah that is price manipulation and it is illegal ateast in europe

[@KrazeElk]

Man people being like “idc about the slaves I just like the products” when sorting by new in the comments is very grim. One thing to buy it, it’s another to announce to the world you don’t care about human rights violations. Geezzzz

[@manwii97]

I started crocheting the other week and I was telling my aunt about it and mentioned there was a crochet basket I wanted to get on Amazon specifically. To note, she doesn't or has no interest in crocheting. She doesn't know how or hasn't ever looked it up. In the middle of the conversation, amazon posted 'THE' crochet basket I wanted on her amazon. Amazon is crazy like that too. Same with KZbin, but that's a whole other story. The internet is wild out here.

[@rustymustard7798]

Every time someone installs Temu a furiously typing black hoodied Chinese hacker pauses, looks at monochrome wall of text scrolling by and exclaims "Okay, we're in!"

[@kombatwombat6579]

Seven simultaneous million "ok, we're in" echoing across seven million dark hoodies.

[@evilleader1991]

You are not that important

[@TheNat667]

@@evilleader1991 Yes he is

[@evilleader1991]

No hes not

[@TheNat667]

@@evilleader1991 He totally is

[@acejascent]

The amount of people getting a Temu ad before this (including myself) is the most ironic shit the jokes write themselves

[@tragikk03]

"shoppin like a billionaire" exposed them for me. Manipulating people's psychology to market your product is wack. I'm on-board with this for sure.

[@anthonytecchio6526]

The "spying on itself" thing is a thing corporations use to record your clicks. I work in customer service and we call it "Full Story" So a cust calls in and says "i ordered an item and it changed my shipping address" We can say "well we see you clicked the confirm button while this address was selected...." OR "oh shi- yea it did change your address" edit: to be clear, i agree, yea it's shady that it needs audio and internet history and w/e.

[@SgtBuck01]

Bro you cannot convince me that a $2.00 pair of shoes are either comfy or durable.

[@annieworroll4373]

Well, not if you also want them to be legally sourced.

[@LunaticKD1991]

You can't convince me that a $2 pair of shoes isn't just two empty cereal boxes with holes cut in the top. 😶 If someone is selling you a legit pair of shoes for $2 you can gurantee that they're stolen or were involved in a murder.

[@xquisid]

Even if it has a much higher prices I still doubt it's the quality that you actually paid for.

[@alexholker1309]

$2 is fine if you're buying flip-flops.

[@michaelfinlay1412]

@@alexholker1309ive had cheap flip flops and trust me they suck, please get some with a glued strap, those plastic straps always pop out.

[@the.ghost.behind.u]

Didn't they get in trouble for stealing or leaking credit card info of their customers when u order something n then within 30mins get a ton of fraud charges to ur card?

[@hshshsjsjsjz6930]

I like how nobody talks about nike Adidas and other big shoe companies let alone all phones that use the same work force

[@Mooch414]

After seeing one ad for Temu, It was painfully obvious that shit was a scam lmao

[@beetleprime5927]

Yeah it was mind bogglingly obvious for me thankfully

[@zettabitepragmara4031]

I don't care how monetarily cheap Temu is. The ethical and moral cost outweighs anything they could sell. Also all the pop up crap they put on it is so infuriating which pushes me away even if they were clean and shiny

[@kaydog890]

*sent from an iPhone*

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

​@@kaydog890 Apple is the opposite of cheap.

[@zettabitepragmara4031]

@@kaydog890 me on a PC

[@watsonwrote]

​@@ChucksSEADnDEADA lot of their specs are actually pretty cheap, they just charge a lot for it. I was laughing the other day at work over how much they over charged for RAM -- it was like a 10x markup over identical RAM from other vendors using the same chip manufacturer. Their new iPhones also stick with Lighting charge and data speed despite changing to USB-C, which means instead up upgrading their decade-old chipset they just put in a Lightning-to-USB-C converter and called it day 😂 I could go on and on about how much more expensive Apple products are compared to other vendors for the same amount of compute. I work with Apple, Windows, and Android products so I don't have a dog in this race, it's just always distractingly funny how bad the value of Apple products are

[@Squalleternally]

Everyone is a fucking moral pariah now apparently

[@yeeyeeyeeye]

This is why, as a general rule, I avoid any brands or companies that focus more on their marketing/sponsorships than ensuring that they are providing a good service. Usually, if a company is doubling down this hard on attracting new customers, there's some shady stuff that they don’t want the public to find out.

[@QoraxAudio]

And it means all their money is spend on marketing, so no money left to provide good customer experience.

[@l30n.marin3r0]

All of them then...

[@krimsonsun10]

The more advertisements and sponsored channels i see from a company, the more i will avoid their products. This strategy has never let me down, especially with VPNs, hosting companies, and other services. IF you have to excessively advertise, your product sucks or you are creating a fake problem and selling the solution.

[@Stevebloomez]

So you literally avoid every single company on earth?

[@zeeqq105]

I haven’t bought anything from Temu, SHEIN and anything out of China. They don’t even treat their own people right. A woman bought a blanket from Temu and she was itching all over intensely. She went to the doctor and they told her she had tiny pieces of fiberglass all over her body. There was nothing she could do. She had to wait it out. I can’t imagine what she went through. Now that I know about their labor issues I really won’t buy anything. Am I the only person in America who hasn’t bought anything from Temu?

[@wynautwarrior2161]

I have been getting so many ads for Temu on my smartphone more than any other ad on KZbin. The advertisements are so harsh, robotic, and in-your-face that it literally makes me angrier than the cheap grubhub ads I'll get occasionally. I'll welcome a million cringy grubhub ads over one Temu ad.

[@NekoBoyOfficial]

Shien is still shady for different reasons. Some of their clothes shed microplastics in the wash, and others even had traces of lead.

[@evil1st]

Shien and Temu are both Chinese. China has a strict policy that states that any company HQ'd in China has to send all of their collected information to the government. This means that if you buy anything off Shien or Temu; its garaunteed that your information is in the hands of the CCP. Even creating an account puts you at risk and the CCP creates a profile of every person that they collect data on. You, me, anyone else reading this and everyone on the internet that has used a Chinese site has had their information collected and a profile created of all their details. It goes so deep that they probably could guess your favorite food, sex position, your address, your parents names and even your social security number. If you dont believe me look up "Chinese government data collection". They know you whether you like it or not. Its supposedly to aid them in the event WW3 starts and for their "world domination". They have their hopes set far too high and it sounds pretty outlandish but its still scary nontheless. The worst part is that they collect more data on NA and European civlians than their own people.

[@joylox]

Most fabrics shed microplastics unless you have 100% natural fibres. Cotton, wool, linen, etc. But lead is bad, and Amazon has also had issues with lead in things. It's always good to look into the seller info if possible, when buying online.

[@Brightside9]

The fact we as consumers is feeding the monster every single day by buying their cheap low quality products is insane

[@eightohthreefilms]

key word: "we"

[@s.c4754]

No one is forcing you to buy their shit?

[@thatderangedbunny]

We?🥸

[@natieklopper]

numbers game, always

[@MWH12085]

I don't remember buying anything from Temu....so where's this "we" shit coming from

[@inventiveusername5191]

Speaking as someone who works in forestry (among other areas), 1.3m trees sounds like a lot but it really isn't that many for a company of their size. By comparison the Woodland Trust, a charity in England with a fraction of a percent of Temu's resources, is aiming at 50 million in the next five years, despite working in a place where land and labour for planting is vastly more expensive.

[@sidc599]

Dont know how people didnt find it suspicious sooner ☠️☠️

[@casualtrips9571]

Amazon obviously needs microphone permissions for the app to allow you to "speak to text" when searching but I wouldn't be surprised if they kept all the recordings.

[@comicbrandon]

They do. You can look them up.

[@kelltoran6658]

The reply to this is invisible

[@SnifferSock]

Yeah Idk why he found that so weird... you can just not give it permission and not use that feature. Problem solved.

[@LunaStar666]

it's also for Alexa if you use that, as well as when making a video for a product review.

[@Catheidan]

They do. It's in their EULA

[@pedroserapio8075]

This is very interesting, back in my country many years ago, I got used to see shops owned by chinese, full of cheap stuff. But when I went to China, I found out a big variety of stuff, with different levels of quality. Made me think why these shops outside of China tend to sell the most low, bad quality products?

[@ghostlyhousehorrors]

Im guessing less regulation and loopholes for companies to do their buisness overseas

[@Nick-zp8wk]

Yeah I live in China and I cannot order anything from Temu here. I think they're export only because of how much of a pain it is to enforce quality regulations and returns internationally.

[@thegrimharvest]

Short answer, low hanging fruit answer: it's a grift. The cost versus the price is likely a net profit for the sellers. They sell cheap, people like to think they're getting a deal, they buy cheap, and still end up paying more than what the items are worth. Paranoid schizo muh conspiracy theory answer: it's to drive up demand for cheap imports, to artificially outperform and outcompete local/regional/national businesses. It's like the Walmart META on steroids. Mom and pop shops have been devastated and steamrolled by Walmart and their prices. Taking the high road, Walmart can collectively bargain for better prices and pay lower wages, while having more warehouse room for inventory while paying significantly less for their overhead. Walmart also is capable of shady dealings and grift, but has enough money and political resources to keep itself mostly from being inconvenienced by laws and regulations that would significantly impact its bottom line, or its investors/shareholders stock prices. Temu is if Walmart could use forced labor and purposely sell inferrior products at an impossible to compete with price range. It's taking losses in the short term, but long term it will destroy the competition and try to corner the market. It doesn't have to play by the same rules as its competitors, and once they've out of the way, then it no longer needs to worry about giving away "losing" deals. It can keep selling the same poor quality products but nolonger has to sell them so cheaply. Extra extra profits. And a userbase that is hooked and will use Temu for everything regardless of how awful the service or how awful the products.

[@nachoconazodiablo1234]

@@Nick-zp8wk Temu is the international version of Pinduoduo. So when in China use Pinduoduo

[@Nick-zp8wk]

@@nachoconazodiablo1234 good to know but I'll stick to taobao!

[@daddydallas4789]

I think people here fail to realize that Temu sells cheap stuff for cheap money, not expensive stuff for cheap money. It’s not like you get the brand newest hardware there for 90% off. You get cheap and low quality stuff made in China and pay the according price. If you wish to buy more high quality goods, you know you have to be willing to pay a higher price

[@sechrus5553]

It's very surreal to see this video clearly discussing Temu being shady, and KZbin inserting Temu midroll ads. On another note, I've been seeing channels on masse suddenly having numerous midroll ads after having none for the longest time. Maybe it's me, but something seems off.

[@M_CFV]

When are yall gonna realize that the illuminati HQ is China not America

[@pinkseonghwa]

One youtuber I’ve followed for a long time posted on his community page that KZbin turned on midroll ads for everyone, whether the creator wants it or not. And they now can’t turn it off either.

[@Jbot123]

If, after all of this, you're still thinking of ordering from that site, at least use a prepaid credit card that barely has enough on it for your purchase.

[@joshuah345]

i mean, they accept paypal and basically everything else

[@Ganein19]

I never trust anyone that says you can buy things at such an incredible discount.

[@HaveanOreshnik]

thrift stores aren't bad though, or in Eastern Europe, we call them second hand shops

[@AceFromGorillaz]

Buying a piece of plastic in such a low price isn't some insane discount. You're basically paying exactly what you're buying. There are shit that are exactly the same in temu and Amazon but Amazon actually sells some stuff more expensive than their actual worth

[@a-3841]

For clarification about the slave labor part, should we assume slave labor if the product is from Xinjiang? Does that mean products from other areas are likely not made with slave labor?

[@Pooky1991]

My mom loves using Temu, but I refuse to. I keep telling her to be careful what she buys off there. So far she's only bought clothing or small items and have even returned some items with no problem.

[@FukaiKokoro]

To me the problem isn't the products. It's fine to sell cheap garbage. What's not okay is to use slave labor and do genocide in the process.. alot of people don't quite understand the situation with the uyhgur people and I highly recommend looking into it.

[@jmal]

​@@FukaiKokoroIME some of the people who buy crap off TEMU also tend to be people who refuse to buy _Hogwarts Legacy_ because of Rowling's tweets. Seems alleged transphobia is a far more pressing issue than modern day slave labor.

[@BliniMango]

I stopped buying chocolate bc of the slave labor in the industry. It's horrible out there.

[@lolalina_]

There are even radioactive stuff that is selled! RADIOACTIVE!

[@chelsthegameruiner8669]

I know someone who occasionally tries to get us to use her referral codes. Almost the entire Discord makes fun of them each time, calling it a "Chinese scam." They haven't tried getting us to use a referral code after we made fun of them

[@eightcoins4401]

The referal codes also are super predatory. Literally turning your users into free advertising.

[@TheCarpenterUnion]

​@@eightcoins4401eh, that type of thing has been around forever. I wouldn't call it "super" predatory, but it does always give MLM vibes

[@mariawhite7337]

I used to do that for Facebook games. Until I realized how dumb the games were.

[@ghoulchan7525]

lol. funny enough someone in a discord server i am got banned for posting a Temu code. Sorry Bro that counts as advertising which was banned there.

[@finkamain1621]

@@mariawhite7337 I despised that way back. I'd have notifications from people on my friends list inviting me to Farmville. They kept spamming and I just send them profanity [As you could back in the day] and just remove and block them

[@chickenpotbiebro202]

One time I saw a Temu “ad” and this person just kept spamming Temu links and I reported all of them and they were all removed lol

[@tylerturner3145]

I usually am skeptical about buying items straight from China, however i am an avid dino figure collector and a specific brand in China makes some of the best, most detailed, and somewhat scientifically accurate models that u can find. I also buy some really good aftermarket vehicle light assemblies that's based in China. China has a good chunk of incredible stuff to offer but i always make sure its legitimate.

[@astonished.1410]

You already know it's serious when Mutahar doesnt laugh at the beginning of the video

[@Dannybythebanana]

I had my credit card info stolen using Temu :) Also the way my packages were delivered was so weird. Unmarked Van, guy in casual clothes, 2AM delivery (I was up that night) Out of 10 items I've ordered, only 1 was useful. Honestly, I was surprised that one item actually worked out of the multitude of cheap, plastic crap I got.

[@Slashx92]

A guy a couple of comments above you said something very relevant regarding this, this problem is systematic. Copy pasting here: @eclipxing5881 I work for a very large global bank as a fraud specialist. People call in all the time reporting fraud and it ALWAYS happens after a purchase from Temu. It's not TEMU directly who is committng the fraud but I am certain that they're selling customers card data to third parties for a fee and wash their hands of it because they've already made a profit. I wish there was a way to track it and I wish law enforcement and the banks took it more seriously but they don't.

[@m1nc3]

I think Amazon has a Uber type service where anyone can get hired to deliver packages

[@jmal]

​@@m1nc3The difference being that these Amazon Flex drivers, as they're called, will start delivering packages at around 6 or 7 AM, not 2 AM.

They use mainly use Ontrac (formerly called Lasership)

[@raaaaaaarr]

Yes when temu first came out there were a myriad of complaints about being charged randomly after using the site. Theft

[@cranberrysauce61]

in the chart of dangerous software functions, the only one that truly raises my eyebrow is the install packages one. but that can still be put down as a lazy coding of doing a blanket getting all the permissions instead of adding what is needed. the big flags though is the parent company being caught running things at an elevated permissions in a different app.

[@biggoofus242]

"Temu is involving themselves in slave labor with the Uyghur genocide" Kinda sounds similar to the behind the scenes of Mulan 2020 For context, the 2020 live action adaptation of Disney's Mulan has scenes of it filmed near the Uyghur concentration camps

[@azenyr]

The legendary saying will be forever correct: If something has too many ads about it, the product is certainly and utterly trash. (Or the product is you). You can't possibly pay for so many ads every fking where and still have enough money for R&D and make a good product. If you pay for too many ads, little to no money is left to pay for actual product quality.

[@finkamain1621]

That quote lines up with 80% of AAA video games and movies that are released today

[@mrnobodyatallnoneed]

When Temu started popping around (where I live it was earlier this year), I immediately warned all my family members and explained the security risks associated with the parent app and how shady it all is in general. Fast forward to now and almost all of them, even a family member who is generally EXTREMELY concerned about their privacy and safety online, has downloaded and is using the app. Sad.

[@melindasmith3713]

All aps . Not them alone .

[@TheMurlocKeeper]

Welp, you TRIED to warn them! They have only themselves to blame if something happens to their bank account, lol! You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it think. :P

[@Squalleternally]

Well jokes on fucking TEMU, nothing in my bank account so what they gonna do?

[@xlerb2286]

In general most of those commercial apps are poorly written. Some are downright spyware, but almost all of them are done under contract by the lowest bidder. I.e., a company that doesn't know or care how to review the application for security or other quality issues. And for a company with even less knowledge about how to ensure the application is well written. Installing those apps is like eating a tuna and mayonnaise sandwich handed to you by a grinning stranger and that has been sitting in the sun all day. You may not get sick from it, but...

[@peepoopeepoo6213]

@@Squalleternallyput you into debt and ruin your credit score, possibly making it so you can’t take out loans

[@blubullie4850]

I have seen several people get scammed on TEMU. More often than not, it is usually something like buying a PS5 for $350 that says it is being shipped, but never arrives.

[@ludwiglarsson3352]

Google and Facebook are doing this too. I googled some offers for skiing trips in the alps one evening. Next day, every freaking ad on facebook was advertising different skiing trip offers.

[@monkeeatbanan6524]

I showed my parents this and they still order off of temu, and will not feel bad when their credit card info is leaked to shady people.

[@Chillikilli]

Same I told my mom not to buy junk off of temu. And then she was disappointed with the quality of the items 😂

[@HaveanOreshnik]

i wanna say "it's a shame" but they are your parents man

[@Nick-zp8wk]

@@FukaiKokoro I am an expat living in China. The videos here on YT showing the "true" China are all laughable propaganda and if you look behind the curtain most of them are somehow connected to the Falun Gong cult. Also Temu is actively being cracked down on in China because of how shady it is. I cannot order anything from Temu here.

[@HaveanOreshnik]

lmao oh you mean the western manufactured podcast with exaggerations.....there is no GENOCIDE, for god sakes, there's 0 evidence, meanwhile Israel is openly committing war crimes@@FukaiKokoro

[@kaydog890]

Wait, so within the three hours this has been up, you've shown your parents, they sat there for half an hour AND then they placed an order with Temu? I call yarns.

[@TheFruitingChamber]

muta is the only person i can respect tbh.... shares so many opinions with him and so glad he dont sell out to bs

[@HaveanOreshnik]

i wanna agree but sometimes he sponsors Express VPN which is not a reputable VPN service

[@TerminatorSe7en]

What about Express VPN? Trust me he will sell out at the right price

[@TheDarkAngel969]

ExpressVPN? Or back when established titles was making the rounds?

[@phillypheeling]

The fact that Temu is advertising on this video is hilarious to me lol

[@ARat_2001]

Ok, so possibly unrelated, but I have kind of a story from what I remember of an old temu ad on youtube. When the ad where the shopping like a billionare thing came from as a song, there was a chorus i think after the songs says "i'm shoppin' like a billionare," where it was probounced "teemoo", but later on, apparently, they changed the chorus to say "tehmoo", and i honestly believe they did that specifically to make people say it right. With that information I will now be saying it the new improper way, if anyone wanted to know that would be tee-moo.

[@keila8762]

As someone who worked in customer service for 4+ years, the best thing you can do for yourself is thoroughly review the terms&conditions. If you skip Any point, it will be used against you in the court of law and you will lose. Review your rights, be aware and knowledgable before you sign up because if you sue them for claims that contradict their terms youll lose. These companies do their best to softly thread laws and they mostly depend on users' ignorance. For your own safety, please review all the laws and policies you are obligated to in case you get 'scammed'. Otherwise, you will hold no validity in the court of law because you clicked 'I accept terms&conditions' without actually reading through them. Its an evil world we live in

[@ghost13a7]

I just remembered an incident I had with Temu. We had mistakenly installed it due to our Apple ID being shared. My father accidentally installed it, and when he had it on his iPhone (one of the newer models, I think the 14) his phone started to heat up randomly. This may just be an odd coincidence, or Temu is actively using up System resources on phones to spy on you…

[@finkamain1621]

It is. It's no different than if I'm using Google Maps to find an address so it's using my location constantly as I'm using the app... so my phone gets warm. If your phone just gets warm for no reason, it's because there's some app tracking you, using your camera, or using your microphone all without you knowing. You're dad's probably getting spied on

[@THEOPDESTROYER777]

i can confirm that temu is very likely to have spyware on it from what we have experienced over the past month. i wont get into it for privacy sake, but if you have temu downloaded or use it at all, get it off of your devices and never go back