My Response To The Completionist

[@Cuestar]

Im suprised jirard got so aggressive, i expected him to just take the L, not threaten to sue

[@KrazyKrzysztof]

His channel is about to take a huge viewer hit with this news

[@wittybanter96]

Why?

[@dogwelder9699]

Cue whats good boy

[@robbirose7032]

Can we be sure that Mutahar didn't take some of the charity money? I think this needs an investigation.

[@joey.99]

Why wouldn't he be upset? It's his livelihood being threatened. Ofc it's better to not be aggressive but it's a response that makes sense

[@x3dfritz0]

How could Jirard simultaneously NOT know the funds arent being donated BUT know that the intent of the organization was to hold the money until it was large enough to make a restricted donation??

[@chanr9531]

Because he’s trying to gaslight people into believing his bs story

[@BubbyBoy]

​@@chanr9531honestly, I'm inclined to believe he is that incompetent. This wouldnt be the first time he bombed a project. NormalBoots and his falling out with his original co-host come to mind.

[@ShenDoodles]

Because his role isn’t as prominent as people may believe. He was the least involved member of the company. I’m adding this part to my comment to disclose that I haven’t watched this yet and will do so tomorrow, so if Mutahar addresses this in the video, then take this with a pinch of salt.

[@All-Fur-Coat_No-Trousers]

Yea, it's bogus

[@joshuamaltez4704]

And that my friends, is Charity Fraud.

[@benjoman8252]

I wouldnt worry about jirard trying to sue you, based on his actions it'll probably take him 10 years to find the right court room, or lawyer. He might even ask you for some recommendations since it clearly isn't his responsibility

[@yummystar1102]

😂😂😂

[@payphone86]

“Your honor, I have to apologize for taking so long to file this lawsuit. It was all due to clerical error, and I’m sorry if you feel misled.” 😂 The jokes write themselves!

[@mediumvillain]

I wouldnt worry about him suing because publicly asking for a charity to serve its charitable purpose and/or be investigated by state or federal authorities is the furthest thing from illegal. They were very careful to explain any accusations with legal definitions and not explicitly make claims not backed up by information & statements they had and presented publicly.

[@fuadlabib703]

​@@MintBerryCrunchBro wants the money

[@Jolis_Parsec]

@MintBerryCrunch *laughs at people being Internet lawyers and claiming they’re wrong, yet says he would love to represent Jirard himself and that he has a great case* Pot, meet kettle, jackass. 🥱

[@craigsmart1986]

2022: Jirard claims he found out the money wasn't going to ANY charities November 2023: Jirard openly lies again about the money going directly to charities That is the definition of charity fraud

[@brettlawrence9015]

Also gross negligence can become fraud it was his responsibility to ensure the money was handled properly.

[@cloooud]

Not to mention that as a board serving member, he has a fiduciary duty to know what's going on with the money and foundation. So, either he's lying about what he knows/knew or he's dangerously close to a breach of fiduciary duty along with the charity fraud.

[@Hr1s7i]

They are going directly to charities... at some point in the future.

[@Practicalinvestments]

+1 comment for muta

[@shanegale6143]

@@cloooud This is a pretty asinine thing to point out as some sort of weird conditional indictment. So what if he's in breach of fidicuiary duty ? it's his family's organisation lol what are they gonna sue him?

[@danpascooch]

"We've now donated the money due to Mutahar's video, after letting it sit for ten years. We're very angry that the money is now in good hands and are going to sue him" 👍

[@jakeoshay]

They are angry because they had to give up a large chunk of money @@danwarb1 😂

[@voidstar1512]

Basically. Jirard is salty af

[@MrImmortal709]

Just imagine for how many more years this would have going on and the amount of money he could have hoarded. Money should have been donated after every event to the Organizations he was making his little speech about, he lied, he stole and I hope people will laugh at him when he tries another Charity grift Event.

[@davida12345]

You nailed it lol

[@Micchi-]

Jirard's gamer moment

[@skFriberg]

10 years later he remembered to donate the money from a charity event he has every year, amazing. A truly wonderful human being.

[@BlisaBLisa]

maybe he needs that Alzheimers research for himself

[@bearman9033]

@@BlisaBLisa Pretty sure Charlie said the same thing on The Official Podcast, haha.

[@Redroomjjgfd]

@@bearman9033thats great haha, you reminded me I need to check the pod. also this is random but have you been gaming at all recently

[@patrickriarchy6054]

I'm sure it didn't accrue any interest.

[@TheCourtJester.]

pretty sure ive seen that comment on asmons reaction too@@bearman9033

[@InterrogatorChaplainAzraphil]

Jirard won't sue. It's an empty threat for one reason. It would open him up to discovery. Good luck having the last 10 years of your charity being dissected more thoroughly by a lawyer than it already has been by KZbinrs.

[@TheoJay615]

Exactly! He's in bigger trouble if he does sue!

[@TheUnapologeticGeek]

Came here to say exactly this.

[@aiwash2766]

You people do realize he said he knows he’s getting audited right? He said he welcomes it, idk about y’all but this is a dude that has nothing to lose at this point

[@cerealexperimentsuboa]

true. but i gotta admit its a strange move for him to threaten suing. I know that his reaction may be reasonable- his career is on the line and his public image (As we know from the interview, he cares about, as anyone might) but it's so weird that I was more prone to just being like "well the guy lied and pulled some stupid shit, but finally at least the money was donated"

[@GikamesShadow]

The crap you mean it opens him up? He is literally gonna get audited?????

[@aenema22]

As someone who has been on several 501c3 boards, I wanted to mention that it's common practice and used to be a requirement to discuss financials at every meeting. This ensures that the board can fulfill their fiduciary duties in overseeing the funds. Jirard claiming ignorance of the financial records for 8 years is absolutely ridiculous and if it's to be believed, it means he never once attended a board meeting. The fact that he misled donors as a board member is very damning. If he weren't on the board it would be a very different story and his claims of ignorance might hold water.

[@znido1752]

I think you assume that there was a meeting at all. I feel like this was always going to sit in a bank account and be used as a pool of money to pay people large sums of money under the guise of a salary or to line other peoples back pockets. Also my intuition is screaming that his father has some sort of hand in the bigger picture somehow

[@rault114]

@@znido1752 His point is that they should have had board meetings, because they are reporting as a 501(c) foundation/charity. Regardless, Jirard has no excuse for not tracking the money he collected. Ignorance and/or negligence are not valid defenses for his actions, or lack thereof.

[@Elle-elle-elle]

Not American but this applies in my country too, pretty much. I feel like it's a standard practice. I was secretary and had to schedule + provide the financials before every meeting

[@andrewmeyer3599]

@@Elle-elle-elle When it comes to money, pretty much everywhere in the world operates the same way when you look at the upper corporate ladder

[@evilsworn2901]

Perhaps next year he'll come out with his own dementia XD

[@dwdx4042]

Hey Muta, you not only got a 600k donation but you also united a family! It tears me up. Merry christmas!

[@zombieoverlord5173]

Don't forget about Karl!

[@johnathonjohnston1598]

Now THAT’S the true meaning of Christmas, you know?

[@xHal1]

Imposter!

[@HeroicRecaps]

@@xHal1whoa lol

[@TwilightWolf2508]

Congrats muta, you've now been cancelled on Twitter for helping bring potential financial crimes to the spotlight.

[@harrybalsagna187]

Twitter canceled itself

[@toonie568]

I can't stand delusional twitter keyboard warriors

[@racoonmastah]

Nah, the Twitard's opinions can rot in the 🗑️

[@blackhat4206]

What’s Twitter? You mean X?😂

[@mr.brightside2665]

​@@blackhat4206the new name isn't really working out for Elon lmao

[@Webxhed]

IMPORTANT - the audit was of their status as a nonprofit, not a fraud audit. In my experience, a nonprofit status audit is mostly procedural and self reported, confirming you met certain qualifications to keep your tax exempt status. Again, NOT a financial or fraud audit, where they actually look at bank transactions, receipts, etc. 20:16

[@Xerczar]

Also correct me if i’m wrong but it’s for the fiscal year of 2014. That proves nothing at all

[@luisarroyo7656]

So you mean to tell me that not only did Jirard provide a reference to an audit that happened outside of the relevant time frame pertaining to his charity fraud accusation, but the audit didn't even address the financial foul play he denied in his own fucking response video and he thought THAT was a good idea???

[@memeweirdguyn.0019]

​​@@luisarroyo7656Most of the time people don't even wanna look st the evidence if proves something or not, they just see a paper and "formal writing" and think is all said and done when in reality situations like what Jirard did happens a lot

[@lionzcrown1702]

Passing the audit means they don’t qualify for a fraud audit..

[@luisarroyo7656]

@@memeweirdguyn.0019Yeah, I just think it's bizarre that he linked it to begin with. If there really wasn't any financial foul play like he claims in his response video, why would he use that specific audit as proof knowing it could be easily cross referenced? On the flip side, if his denial of illegal activity was deceptive, using that audit just makes his case look even worse than it already does. It doesn't make sense to post it at all. It just makes him look bad either way

[@tempestfrost]

I have been practicing law in The State of California since passing the bar in 1989. Although I am admittedly not a criminal prosecutor, I am still dumbfounded as to how or why Mr. Jirard Khalil’s legal counsel would allow him to make the potentially incriminating statements he chose to make in his now infamous “ My Response “ video. Allow me to explain. Over the past decade Mr. Khalil has repeatedly made the claim during his many charity drives that any and all funds secured through direct donations, Twitch subscriptions, merchandise sales and so on would go directly to, and become the sole property of, a registered charity based in The State of California known as The Open Hand Foundation, of which Mr. Khalil claimed to be both a founding member as well as an active board member. He had stated to his viewing audience that at no time would any of these funds go to, be used by, or be made available, to either himself, his business or any other entity other than that of The Open Hand Foundation to which his donors believed they were donating to in good faith. Yet in the above mentioned video he posted to KZbin entitled: “My Response“, Mr. Khalil openly and freely admits to illegally allocating large portions of these charitable proceeds to himself and his business ventures in order to offset what he refers to as the “production costs“ related to the “Indieland” webcast program. These cost include, but are not limited to: Air fare costs for himself, his team and select guests of the “Indieland“ webcast program. Hotel accommodations for himself, his team and select guests of the “Indieland“ webcast program. Insurance, security, appearance fees, supplies, food and catering as well as merchandising costs. In this video he makes the claim that the total cost for all items listed under the heading “production costs“ came to a total of $12,000.00 USD. Although it seems highly unlikely that even the most frugal individual could hope to cover all of these rather costly expenses for a mere $12,000.00 USD, this is not exactly the point that has placed Mr. Khalil in jeopardy of facing potential felony criminal charges in the very near future. The real issue here is that once Mr. Khalil had made the statement that at no time would any of the funds secured during his many charity drives go to, or be utilized by, himself, any other person, persons, or entity's other than the charity the funds were raised for, The Open Hand Foundation, he was legally obligated to refrain from accessing and thereby utilizing ANY of those funds for ANY reason. Least of all using the funds, or a portion there-in, to fund his expenses for the Indieland webcast program or ANY other cause, entity or person. In plain English, by using any of the money collected in good faith during any of the previous charity drives, for any other purpose outside of The Open Hand Foundation, after stating to potential charity donors that no such action would be taken, he has, I believe, committed felony embezzlement and felony charity fraud according the laws of The State of California. In eliciting funds generously donated by his audience with the understanding that those funds would not be used by Mr. Khalil personally, he was legally obligated to see to it that at no time would any of said funds be used by Mr. Khalil or any other person or persons other than that of The Open Hand Foundation. It is clear that Mr. Khalil misled his donors into donating funds to a charity which did not receive said funds in total. By making false statements in order to secure donations for himself, his business ventures or even The Open Hand Foundation itself, it is my professional opinion that Mr. Khalil has violated California State law and in doing so has potentially committed felony charity fraud. My son has been a fan of Mr. Khalil for some time which is how I became aware of this sad situation. I know that many of you must feel as though you’ve been used and lied to by someone you trusted and cared about. Just remember that those of you who chose to donate to the cause of finding a cure for Frontotemporal Dementia, you are the true heroes here. Have faith that the legal system will see to it that every dime you generously donated will eventually make it’s way into the hands of doctors and researchers struggling to put an end to this dreadful enemy.

[@MichaelJM]

I'm no lawyer but I think to legally be held liable for fraud there needs to be proven intent to commit fraud. (Hence Jirard's emphasis on clerical errors) I don't know if that could easily be proven in Indieland's case (certainly the facts are clear cut as you lay out), but in the grand scheme of things, Indieland using some of the money towards expenses is one of the less problematic things in this entire mess. It does speak to a sloppiness in operating a business though; such a thing could easily have been avoided by procuring sponsorships for the event. The much bigger problem for me is the blatant misrepresentations about Open Hand in order to procure donations. I agree, I don't know why a lawyer would advise/allow Jirard to make such a long-winded and defensive video response. Whether or not some type of fraud conviction could be obtained given that the money was eventually donated and (apparently) wasn't misused (just neglected) - I have no idea - but I wouldn't want to be defending Open Hand in this spot.

[@chloskyskies4399]

@@MichaelJMit’s my understanding intent just means they intended to do the action itself (like they didn’t accidentally spend the money) It doesn’t apply to knowing whether or not the action is a crime.

[@quin_e]

@@MichaelJM”i didn’t know it was a crime” is not a valid defense for committing multiple felonies. if I steal a car and accidentally kill someone in the process I would be convicted of felony murder, even if murdering someone never crossed my mind.

[@tempestfrost]

@@quin_e You would be correct.

[@tempestfrost]

@MichaelJM It seems clear that as Mr. Khalil was busy soliciting donations which he claimed would become the sole property of The Open Hand Foundation, he was fully aware of his intention to utilize a portion of those funds to assist in covering his out of pocket expenses incurred before, during and after, and related solely to, the Indieland webcast production. If it was his intention to use any of the funds donated in this way Mr. Khalil was obligated under California State law to inform his donors of this fact. As he did not, under State law, his actions could be construed as meeting the definition for both felony embezzlement as well as felony charity fraud. This constitutes intent.

[@Aa-dn1oq]

What's hilarious is that theres already people online claiming Karl and Muta "forced" Jirard to gut the charity component of Indieland going forward, not realizing how stupid it would be for Indieland to ask for donations after this utter and sheer catastrophe on Jirard's part.

[@Aa-dn1oq]

They're likely just holding indieland next year due to plans and investments already being made, but recognize how awful the PR would be where, mere months after admitting to not donating any money, you then pull a Bernie Sanders and beg the public for donstions

[@mickael486]

@@Aa-dn1oq "Pull a Bernie Sanders"? What did Sanders do that's anything like this?

[@Aa-dn1oq]

@@mickael486 I'm just referencing that one video of him once again asking for donations

[@risinghonor7]

Ik I was worried it was gonna hurt other youtuber charity's 2 like Jack's thankmas

[@mickael486]

@@Aa-dn1oq WHO? Jirard or Bernie?

[@michaelkeller5555]

Somehow I knew Muta's response to a lawsuit threat would basically be 'lol do it'.

[@topcatchillinbytrash]

His lawyers are advising a losing case bc they'll still get paid

[@DanielFerreira-ez8qd]

​@@topcatchillinbytrash "losing case" yeah say that to all the misleading statements from Jirard

[@topcatchillinbytrash]

@@DanielFerreira-ez8qd I mean for Jirard... Muta is a champ. Did you seriously think that? I want to insult you so hard right now.

[@DanielFerreira-ez8qd]

@@topcatchillinbytrash Insult me all you want, but you looked like one of plenty of fanboys thinking Jirard has a case. Couldn't tell who you were referring to because you were replying to someone talking about Muta.

[@GamblingDedicated]

​@@DanielFerreira-ez8qdor he is talking about Jirard and not Muta and you just flipped off for nothing.

[@Snzn_7]

Finally after 10 years the longest achievement/trophy The Completionist unlock is "Handing out the Donations". The completionist achieved the "KZbin Apology video" medal. The Completionist also got the "Threatening a lawsuit" award

[@andrejsasd8904]

My man's been speedrunning main quest achievements lately

[@bandzupmeir999]

🤣🤣🤣

[@bongibot1104]

His reccomendation for the game? Don't Play It

[@D44RK_Iced_Yogs]

@@andrejsasd8904main quest?! I really don’t think there’s enough people getting that quest. On second thought, an apology video is a main quest, it’s just a hidden one.

[@greyhackley8581]

buddy got 15% of the achievements done in one go!😂

[@johnblanco9674]

I dry heaved when he talked about "This is an attack on me and my family". Classic response by someone who has done something wrong. He really needs an audit.

[@Glitter_H_Hoof]

he's right though, he would've gotten away with it and he's angry he was forced to donate the money visible on the books to save face in front of his fanbase

[@ashandari1]

But that's the truth man the internet leaves death threats like candy wrappers except you never know if that one dude threatening ro shoot your dog actually fucking does it

[@johnblanco9674]

@@ashandari1 And? Sure, that's a problem but...a complete straw man. What does that have to do with the fact that he knowingly lied and then threatened the truth teller? Only one person here is making threats. Jirard.

[@ale-hl8pg]

​@@ashandari1 true but it really holds like no weight as an argument if people send him death threats, it doesn't absolve him of anything, obviously those people are in the wrong but it doesn't make his situation better it's not an attack from muta, it's an attack from random people on the internet, it doesn't implicate muta or anyone calling this fradulent as an attacker unless they specifically send death threats themselves obviously it's still a problem, but imo that's like saying it's dangerous to go outside cause someone might run you over with a car, should we refuse to call people out for things they're doing which may be nefarious or scummy because there's a psychopath who's waiting for a trigger to go and shoot someone's dog, and that might potentially happen?

[@The_Endless_Now]

@@ashandari1 Legal action is worse than any amount of death threats.

[@DOOMStudios]

With Jirard thinking of filing defamation lawsuits for rightfully being called out for holding onto charity money for a whole decade, is actually so scummy, and such a big dick move from him.

[@johnnyflannigan136]

Not really... Karl and muta literally said the chairty was a scam.. Not in their initial videos but in the other videos they did.. Theres literally no evidence they did anything wrong with that money yet muta and Karl said openly they were frauds and scamming.people.. Especially with the golf money.. There is absolutely grounds for defamation case.. Not sure if he would actually win it but they shouldn't have called it a scam.. Perfectly ok to call attention to the situation but should have left the scam allegations out of it

[@vestilad242]

Calling public information being exposed defamation is craaaazy

[@DOOMStudios]

@@vestilad242scammers can’t handle the truth.

[@TheDiamondCore]

You don’t get it, he needed to complete the video with the random unnecessary 100% bonus reward games often have, and this was it!!1!1!!1!!1!!1

[@umb3rto641]

I just don't think this can hold in court even if suing for defamation is theoretically possible, it just contradicts logic, and the judges use logic, so 😅

[@samanthal9114]

I always feel like I need to preface this with the fact I am a wet lab research scientist...the idea that 600K is a "large" impact. It's not. It's less than a single NIH grant that supports two staff members working on the same project. That 600K would have gone to much larger uses had it been spread across an entire department as unrestricted funds, and allowed to have been used for training, education, and small project grants. It would have amplified and increased the field and have raised many people up. It's clear to me he's never spoken to a single fucking research scientist and asked anyone how to actually make the biggest impact with the money and instead had it sat in an account devaluing for 10 years through one of the worst periods of inflation in recent history.

[@Turbovolver]

Yeah, just remember when he said "I don't want the money to go to some doctor's salary"... you mean the people who would do the research you say you want done? He's so full of it.

[@samanthal9114]

@@Turbovolver you knows worse…most of those PhD holders like myself pull 80 hour plus weeks in the lab and are on around 50k a year before tax and deductions. There is no over time we are contracted to “deliver activities on the following project” so you don’t get extra except not being fired. So I end up making less than minimum wage if you figure it out per hour but sure wanting to sleep in a safe bed and eat is a crime. Doctors don’t work at the bench side most of the time. I know very few who do. The ones doing the experiments are underpaid PhD holders who spent ten years studying to do this job and earn a fraction of the amount a doctor does. Doctors are too busy treating patients to spend 16 hours a day doing protein extractions and western blots. The man has never spoke to a researcher in his life.

[@derekrequiem4359]

@@Turbovolver The man plays video games for a living and has a degree in theater performance. It's easy to understand why he has absolutely Z E R O clue on how research works lmfao 🤣

[@rafaelbordoni516]

He's just ignorant I guess but most people also think that way, it's not the first time you hear similar sentiments towards any project. People think these projects (be they science or art) are some magical hole you throw money in and some result is spit out, truth is the money goes to paying for equipment and staff, but if you ever mention paying someone people will accuse that someone of pocketing the money, happens especially on fundraisers.

[@barrag3463]

And yet, because the universe is a complete circus, I feel like he genuinely thought, due to ignorance and a hint of hubris, that the best thing was to wait until he had a large lump sum.

[@DustyRagu]

It's nice that Jirard constantly brings up his dead mother who died of one of the most horrifying human diseases as a shield for his lies. He even dropped her literal autopsy report at the very top of a list of tax documents for a scam charity he was trying to get going in her name. I hope I have a son that loves me that much one day.

[@someguynamedtrevor6081]

Wait... hold up HE DID WHAT?

[@RealCutieMutie]

@@someguynamedtrevor6081 one of the documents on the description of Jirard video is his mother autopsy papers. Which is wild that is there.

[@ZetaCancri]

"my mother died so go easy on me guys.' 😢

[@sarcastichusbandfathergame8870]

​​@@Hyperwav3well clearly we need to find one for you!

[@biggestbubba]

Wait maybe he has dementia. you know with all the forgetting about a big stack of money and all....

[@CreamusG]

Ironically I learned in Karl's video that a really common strategy for cheaters is to admit to some of the crime, but leave out the rest.

[@tmilker]

It's a common strategy seen by police when trying to evoke a confession from murder suspects too. I think it's just a coping/psychological strategy for lying in general. Give up the little lies so the big lie can live on.

[@hckingking]

Manipulators always use the amount of truth they believe needs to by applied to convince others that they are the good guy. Not the bad guy.

[@Devilish__]

Wow, you learned from a KZbinr? fascinating

[@nothingrhymeswithorange5294]

Karl is very familiar with this strategy

[@johnfinklestein6910]

​@@nothingrhymeswithorange5294yeah from covering liars like Jirad lmao

[@whatthebeardoin3160]

Nothing makes you look more innocent than threatening to sue people and decrying those who reported on your activities. Nice job, Jirard.

[@Chief_Examiner_Stanley_W_Finch]

Jirard would have a hard time trying to sue two guys that don't live America

[@rebound1340]

The good Ole Logan Paul strat

[@PatrickWilliams-ts4le]

Not to mention he apologized foe multiple things and admitted to messing up... but acting like he is 100% innocent.

[@kristoffer8609]

Nothing says innocent, like a death stare while making threats to people who exposed your wrongdoing.

[@RusticRonnie]

@@Chief_Examiner_Stanley_W_Finchits easy to sue someone from Canada both nato

[@ChrisLT]

I think it's ridiculous to say they didn't benefit from all this charity work. Doing that stuff is a good look, builds your reputation, attracts an audience based on the high profile people involved in those drives. Maybe they didn't transfer funds, but it's basically marketing for his brand.

[@alexlowe2054]

This just makes everything so much worse. He could have benefited while also donating the money to charity. His family could have even taken salaries off the top of the charity for managing the funds. All Jirard had to do was to avoid getting too greedy, and trying to steal the entire fund. Which he did. Or one of his family members did. And everyone else either agreed to participate, or at least they agreed to cover it up. What's crazy is that he's willing to drag his mother's death certificate through the online mud pile, instead of calling out the person responsible for stealing money from a charity. If it was a family member, why not pass the blame to them, for stealing and insulting your mother? His actions make me think he's the main person responsible for this crime.

[@rault114]

@@alexlowe2054 This is the big issue here. If they had disbursed the Indieland funds, nobody would've even cared about the golf event or any of the grant money. They could have pocketed all the extra shit, and nobody would've cared.

[@YurinanAcquiline]

Yeah. They had clelebrities in their sphere like Jamie Lee Curtis. They 100% benefited.

[@kevinbissinger]

They also 100% benefitted from it because they actually spent some of the money on paper as well on "overhead" It's dishonest to say they didn't benefit. period.

[@Wegetsignal]

Marketing isn't illegal.

[@feelincrispy7053]

To me the most egregious thing he did in his response video was the use of his mothers death as emotional blackmail. He started with her diagnosis and death and then finished with her death whilst also including her autopsy.. wow

[@lilo5437]

This..

[@kylerook]

Yep, no one doubted her death, We doubted him.

[@adlernelson285]

I mean, yeah, why the fuck would he not? For one, it gives credibility to why he would want to start a charity in the first place. For two, his mother's body was donated to scientists to study to help aid in a treatment for dementia. The autopsy is there as proof of that.

[@richardmcgowan1651]

In all this and even reading stuff on Reddit and Twitter. No one claimed his mother didn't die of the thing he always said she died of. I wouldn't even know what to call a person who would even falsely claim that about their mother. So yes to bring it up is so he could use it as some kind of messed up victim card. Is pretty much out there. It brings Jirards whole character into question.

[@1Beastieee]

Yeah he specifically started talking about donating her body to science as though his critics were saying he didn't. Very bad sign

[@CainXVII]

Providing an autopsy report is so bizarre. Did he think we were questioning his mom actually having Alzheimer's? I don't like that he did that.

[@user-fy7ri8gu8l]

Nah he's in full victim mode, so it's in his cognitively dissonant interest to mis-construe what the actual critiques where or to promote it so as to appear a victim and 'heroically right afterall', everyone assumed they were using the 'dealing with x institute the past' bit on their promotions to mean the place they had donated their moms body. The problem was always - that this is stretching the truth in an uncomfortable 'dude lies on his resume about x experience' - 'I was the assistant manager' a person who 'was an assistant to the manager' sort of way.

[@backlogbuddies]

There was a lie going around his mom never died because there was no obituary. Despite the fact you don't have to pay for an obituary. When my grandfather died we didn't put one out

[@DrAustinSauce]

It was a thing, very heavily on Reddit and in comments on various videos and creators even remotely associated with TOVG/Jirard. Many of those have since been deleted since his response. Not picking a side, just adding some insight.

[@pokemonduck]

he was hoping that people would see the links and just believe him instead of checking them and realizing they have nothing to do with lying about donations

[@user-fy7ri8gu8l]

@@DrAustinSauce sure and of course something like this is going to invite a sorts of batshit critiques, especially in forums, probably every permutation of criticism imaginable, it’s the internet after all. but that was never what anyone with a substantial platform was saying at all and Jirard knows that. It’s strategic bad faith defense. Like deflecting blame for a shitty movie, just seek out the most unhinged criticisms and promote them as if it’s representative of the main body of critique so you play like you’re the victim instead of failure. Classic move.

[@typicpoem8764]

This is insane, he literally said the words “we are one of their main funding support partners.” 15:00 That is one of the most damning statements in this whole thing, there’s no other way to interpret that statement besides “money from the open hand has gone to this organization” even though they had received nothing from open hand

[@blakewhite3131]

Yeah, because theres no plausible deniability. No one could have told him that information, so it had to have been a bold faced lie

[@aeonstrife147]

You can tell the lawyer told him not to post this video

[@mayonotes9849]

​@@aeonstrife147He should've used a ukelele.

[@nin_tendo6458]

​@@blakewhite3131You realize it's still a lie even if he didn't know it was, right? You understand that even if what you're saying is true it's still a lie, don't you? I feel like you're implying that makes it not a lie when that simply isn't the case. This isn't about just Jirard it's about Open Hand which is making false claims in that situation no matter what.

[@thelocalcrusader9522]

​@@nin_tendo6458due diligence is a thing especially when running a fucking charity

[@GIRru11]

Man, its really sad knowing how badly Jirard is trying to deflect all responsibility and trying to still act like he's done nothing as bad as it really is

[@ihavepissinmybrain]

The lawyers are good script writers.

[@Sponsor_Block]

look's like Jirard has been eating the donations

[@elijahmeilak2906]

He literally took accountability and apologised in his video. What are you talking about?

[@djpegao]

​@@elijahmeilak2906he only took accountability for lying about the money being not donated and knowing about it and not saying anything, everything else was deflection and using his dead mom story twice (which must be a personal record for him)

[@ASZzztoluca]

@@elijahmeilak2906 "I want to apologize to anyone who ever donated over the years who felt wronged or led astray." 4.03 mark on Completionist video Where is the, "Yes I deliberately lied to you even after realizing in 2022 that the money was not being donated to pull it off one more time in 2023 and lie some more." Thats not taking accountability for lying year after year to where the donations were going.

[@Spectrum0122]

Threatening to sue you and Karl, then gard cutting to an awkwardly timed sob story abiut his dead mother was an interesting artistic choice for the end of his apology video.

[@Ekim2F94]

The fact you described the obligatory "apology video" as a form of art is truly telling of the troubling times we are experiencing as a modern society. Imagine using your deceased mother for not only clout, brownie points, and deflection. Never watched this guy's stuff but man is he SORRY asf. Despicable even.

[@powerbeard5653]

that forced bullshit ending immediately made me think he was full of garbage.

[@Sam-wq9vi]

@@Ekim2F94No he is sorry He got caught 😢

[@crazycarlsadventures5983]

If he actually sues that will be the end of his career

[@_WeDontKnow_]

@@Ekim2F94 seriously! i feel bad he lost his mom, but that frankly has nothing to do with this situation. there's 0 reason to bring it up other than to use for pity, that's so disgusting to do

[@Dario.991]

The most disgusting part about this is him constantly mentioning his mom's death for emotional manipulation

[@bagrCZ]

That autopsy link was just truly subhuman, like that has any relevance to what he did.

[@backlogbuddies]

This is because people on Reddit kept saying his mom never died due to there being no obituary.

[@Elle-elle-elle]

Because typically everything Reddit wants they have to get. Influencers never ignore Reddit... He saw the chance there and jumped on it

[@MiyaMam948]

@@backlogbuddiesthen he should’ve addressed the specific posts/tweets/etc that accused him of certain things. It just looked like he was strawmanning or manipulating He literally had one job which was to bring the receipts and he didn’t bring anything

[@The_Ninja_Tree]

It's was half of his "apology" video it's gross.

[@vashdstampede2126]

I can see this in court. Jirard: “Your honor this man looked at public documents and called me out for lying to everyone and holding on to $600k for about 10 years total. Money we said was actively being donated. So we are suing him.” Judge: “Uh…..what?”

[@dnmstarsi]

I also see this in court should Jirard lose. Judge: "I'm giving this case the court rating of "Guilty". Announcer (in the Jury section): "GUILTY!"

[@avernvrey7422]

Guilt, guilty, guilty, guilty!

[@overtherenowaitthere]

guilt in civil court doesn’t exist. You’re liable, but not guilty of anything. Totally different standard of evidence and procedure than criminal court where people are found guilty or innocent.

[@sasaki8765]

You know....aside from the part where Muta used the word fraud a ton of times and what he did isn't technically fraud....

[@ffff7164]

@@sasaki8765 Shitcoin-rugpulls were frauds, even though they're technically legal.

[@chri5wyd]

"Im sorry you took it that way." Thats amazing Corporate speak from Jirard.

[@Themacattack1209]

Straight up deflecting lol would be better off not even apologizing.

[@chri5wyd]

​​​@@Themacattack1209Its like he slowly siphoned from the company, but got cold feet on the whole thing once the heat came down. I think threats to sue would just reveal more than Jirard wants, imo.

[@twinkie415]

Channel Awesome energy lmao

[@GiuseppeGaetanoSabatelli]

*_*rubs nipples*_* _We're sorry._

[@riggles]

That type of response is the worst, it's the same as "I'm sorry you felt like you were lied to" putting the blame entirely on us as if it's our fault for feeling lied to and believing everything that was said literally. You see the exact same type of deflection in Filips (Dead Cells review guy) apology video regarding plagiarism. It's such a disgusting apology.

[@ApexJaggi]

Ah yes, the classic "it's not my fault I lied, it's everybody else's fault for misinterpreting me."

[@queefqueefington]

"its not me, its everyone else. Also my mom died 20 years ago so pity me"

[@Nightenstaff]

"It's not my fault I lied, it's your fault for believing me"

[@drzerogi]

Frankly, I understand why he did that. If he outright admitted to misleading people, that would be him admitting that he commited fraud. If you or anyone else were in his shoes at the moment where he was crafting his response, you'd do the same thing. You would be a fool otherwise. His responce video was a pretty good attempt to deflect and defuse with the bad hand he already had.

[@patrickriarchy6054]

​@@Nightenstaff That's my go to. Works 60% of the time everytime...

[@Metalmanijak]

​@@drzerogiits foolish to think that any of his video was writen by him, its obviously just a script made by his lawyers and PR company

[@daylight_EX]

The biggest crime that's been highlighted throughout this whole saga is Mutahar's camera's autofocus.

[@franciscohernandez-sn3ms]

i was thinking the same lol, just focus on you, switch the focus to off and thats it

[@Vega2099x]

🤣🤣🤣👏👏👏

[@c0zm0s_]

It annoyed me too, but I didn't really notice too much until I payed attention to it.

[@dajosh42069]

Yeah... the camera wasn't sure what the focus should be on, Muta or the microphone.

[@stephenfiler3204]

His mic in this video made me think there was something wrong with my headphones.

[@iosonoi.7132]

Yup, suing muta for your own irresponsibility is a great way to convince people to donate to you again and definitely does not damage your own public image.

[@Romanticoutlaw]

what is it with these people where they just keep digging? Like iiluminaughtii trying to foreclose on her victim's house and then trying to sue him when that fails? Do they think that a court of law could ever improve their standing in the court of public opinion?

[@AustinOgonoski]

@@Romanticoutlaw Narcissists pull stunts like this pretty frequently. I'm currently on the receiving end of one myself.

[@memesandhoi2924]

@@AustinOgonoskiI hope you'll pull through my friend.

[@British_Rogue]

No. Suing someone for publicly defaming your character with false information.

[@VioletOrbWeaver]

@@British_Rogueif only muta actually said anything he believed to be false. this lawsuit is going straight in the trash. it might survive a motion to dismiss but that’s it. a defamation lawsuit where a public figure is the one defamed has more stringent standards than a typical one. you would need to show that muta made false statements, that he did not believe those statements to be true, and that he acted with “actual malice”- a reckless disregard for the truth, usually. it’s not defamation if you’re providing evidence in pretty much every case. and even if every piece of evidence muta had turned out to be incorrect, he could still beat a defamation case if he showed he believed his claims to be true or if actual malice is not found. basically, even if you wanna act like jirard is making a valid claim, he’s gonna get laughed outta court

[@Thundercloud94]

The sad thing about Jirard posting a bunch of documents that have nothing to do with what he’s being accused of is that it’s actually working. The people defending him saying he exonerated himself are basically saying, “wow look at all these documents! I have no idea what any of them mean, but golly they sure do look important! He must be innocent!”

[@enthiegavoir5955]

So many people going "did you read the links?" As in the text dump meant to overwhelm none actually looking into it, where they clearly wouldn't.

[@rault114]

@@enthiegavoir5955 I looked at every link and every bit of provided information, as well as all 10 years of 990PF's. Literally nothing he sent justifies anything. His fanboys are real dumb for falling for the "orgy of evidence" defense.

[@berkeliumk]

He could always post the bank statement.

[@RamenFuel7700]

9 year olds keyboard warriors obviously

[@astupidlylongnamethatstoolong]

​@@berkeliumkThe one evidence that could exonerate or damn him, gee I wonder why he wouldn't post it. Probably cause it'd damn him even more.

[@ricksturgis4451]

As someone who has donated close to $1000 dollars to Indieland over the years, I've been kind of shaken for weeks since this all went down. I feel like an entire idiot. I feel like i can trust no one. It's been a very hard time. Keep up the fight Muta.

[@lilo5437]

I’m so sorry, man.. Your heart is in the right place, you still did a good thing and haven’t done anything wrong. Don’t let this wank keep you from doing good 🫶🏽

[@VampiricBard]

Damn I'm sorry Rick. Don't feel like an idiot. No one has flawless awareness.

[@abdullahnaeem7275]

Brother you did nothing wrong here you believed in a cause and sent money believing that its going to charity. It may have gone now but never trust charities again.

[@Sinna_Nera_Sinna]

Never feel bad about trying to do good. It's not your fault there's assholes out there willing to exploit the good faith of others.

[@TacticalReaper56]

People are scummy. People online just as scummy. That's why you gotta find the real ones like Mudda here. He keeps YT at enough distance to call it a "hobby".

[@KanalDerGutenSache]

Muta: "Jirard is someone who you cannot trust with your money." Jirard: "That is absolutely wrong. It is an object preposition and so you have to use ."

[@Vega2099x]

😂😂😂💯 👏 👏 👏

[@natefish3989]

You know its serious when Muta puts text in the thumbnail and not a frame of his face looking mildly upset.

[@helenwhs]

Modeled after Jirard :D

[@RPGCrash]

Its the youtube version of the video game apology statements cyberpunk and gollum and so many more liked putting out recently.

[@NathanCassidy721]

He's basically trolling Jirad. Which I fully support.

[@devd3l]

Definitely agree with Muta, if Jirard was upfront about his charity stockpiling money for a big donation and if he didn't lie about donating or working with certain charities, this whole thing could have been avoided.

[@LilacMonarch]

what are you defiant about?

[@grenindraw6947]

But that would mean he'd get no money 😮

[@TheHarryLizardd]

The reason he got all that money included him lying about donating and working with charities. They donated nothing until they where caught. The only way they could have been upfront is by saying "we are scumbag liars."

[@bryanvillafana5153]

jirard scrunching his forehead to look scary when he threatened to sue was the best part of his response

[@Rihcterwilker]

He looks like a little kid trying to look scary lol

[@puggyxl]

That's what i found so funny about the video. Bro trying to look like he's wolverine or something.

[@edsontorrontegui9491]

​@@Rihcterwilker he looks like a little kid and a hobo at the same time

[@TheBlueGoldenHawk]

i think he was just pissed lol

[@spiderzz1]

like a round angry gnome

[@MiyazakisPVPexperience]

Thank you for indirectly donating 600K USD to charity. The internet appreciates the work of you and Karl

[@DaCaptainDerpy]

The 6 things that anger me from the response: 1. He never explained why he lied for 10 years about the funds being donated just a bare bones "I'm sorry". 2. HIs statement of "Sorry IF YOU felt mislead" is another stand out problem for me. It's not an acceptable apology to shift the guilt onto someone else. We didn't felt mislead. We WERE MISLEAD FOR 10 YEARS 3. He said in your interview he didn't even know the money wasn't donated until 2022 yet in 2023, he would still advertise as if it was 4. It is crazy how many people want to forgive him when even if he didn't do something illegal, it was still terrible to lead us on like that for 10 years 5. Jirard is LITERALLY stepping down from the charity made for his mother. Why would you step down if you weren't guilty? Shouldn't your word be golden and true? Besides, it's pretty bad if you are leaving the place that helped honor her. 6. Sue? You really want to Sue? News flash, you said you couldn't find a suitable donation for 10+ years but suddenly the "allegations" come out and you want to suddenly donate? If Karl and Mutahar never called you out, I would have bet money that the money would STILL be in the account untouched

[@IcaroRamosDM]

He did something illegal, tho

[@JustAFatGuyInTX]

He pretty ruined any good faith that he had left. Now he's tantrumming like a toodler that had his hand caught in the cookie jar.

[@RobinsMusic]

He basically doesn’t feel like he’s done anything wrong

[@Blernster]

do i just have a 1 inch hammer or did the video come off as really manipulative too? started and ending with talking about his mom to get sympathy

[@DaCaptainDerpy]

​@@IcaroRamosDMHe probably did but let's say hypothetically he didn't I still listed 5 other major issues I have with him

[@mage2105]

For me the fact that he's dodging the actual allegations is the biggest red flag to me. Harping on minor points like the e-signature or dragging up random conspiracy theorists that thought his mother didn't die.

[@defundhollywood3259]

Oh, 100% He's not addressing anything. He's using passive language through the whole thing, he's addressing the obviously fake ones because he cannot admit to the true ones. He seems to be very comfortable deflecting responsibility which makes me think he does it a lot.

[@mage2105]

@defundhollywood3259 yeah, that's the feeling I'm getting too. It really makes me wonder about some of his older stuff. Like the falling out with his former co-host Greg.

[@mediumvillain]

​@@mage2105Looked like that was also a matter of business organizational negligence. They fell out as people, Greg left, and there was no contract protecting his contributions to the channel so he had to make demands on the grounds of general copyright law. It's implied by Greg's statements that bc they had fallen out and there were no contracts Jirard and the 'business' they had built together decided to just cut all ties and not take care of him, which is most likely why he ended up demanding they take down the videos with him that Jirard & co. were still presumably making money from.

[@Christpuncher138]

But, Ladies and gentlemen

[@ling0s138]

@@mediumvillaindamn, he used his friends naivety to rip him off financially? Jirard is a piece of dirt

[@asgads]

I didn´t know he wants to sue you. He has now reached "videogame player of the century" level

[@topcatchillinbytrash]

His lawyers are advising it bc they'll get paid knowing he'll lose

[@hughg.rektshun9981]

Videogame donator of the century*

[@andrewbonafilia984]

Course he's gonna want to sue him, 2023 is like.... KZbinr sues KZbinr for exposing them year.

[@poppingdolphins278]

@@topcatchillinbytrashwell said 😂

[@avokka]

@@topcatchillinbytrash yeah. they're getting paid regardless but its still uh.. a stain on their portfolio if im being honest

[@Blazeinbluebecausewhynot]

Dude cared more about his reputation being ruined than the people he scammed.

[@kato856]

Literally everyone only cares about themselves lmao human nature.

[@Abr4CaD4v3R]

That’s what happens when power goes to your head and you don’t know how to handle the power given to you responsibly.

[@Ryderboycolor9]

he was in the wrong but i do not think he scammed anyone fully the money did get donated in the end at least.. mislead people tho? Yes

[@frijolitoazul4343]

​@@kato856caring for yourself is survival instinct caring for others is human instinct -some phylosophy shit idk

[@RevyaAeinsett]

​@@kato856Compassion is a human instinct that contributes to our survival as a species. Humans are a communal species.

[@akaryanc2455]

When you won't share your books, but want to sue based on what your books say, share your books. These will be the first thing that comes out in discovery of your lawsuit, so to not post them and threaten a lawsuit is disingenuous and feels like a tactic to NOT have people see your books. Very sus by Jirad.

[@Jolis_Parsec]

Those books are getting cooked into a four course meal as we speak, no doubt about it.

[@TheIllustriouBlueJay]

Why waste time when both Muta and Karl encouraged people to tell the IRS to audit them, which would require them to show the books anyway? Better to spend the time getting the books ready for the oncoming audit.

[@BrunodeSouzaLino]

Because he'll probably use money from the charity to pay for the lawsuit.

[@BaelzWhaelz]

...Lol no don't share your "books" to the vast public wtf. That's highly sensitive information.

[@why_i_game]

@@BaelzWhaelz Not for a public charity.

[@paxvesania2008]

Jirard is a modern day Pinocchio. Instead of the nose, his beard grew longer and longer as he lie.

[@ErnyLeyvaUlloa]

Good one lol

[@aaronslaton9733]

Beard mode engaged

[@Miumiu0404]

It's to hide his quadruple chin.

[@paxvesania2008]

@@Miumiu0404 Nah bro, the beard need to grow to hide the money he withhold over the years.

[@crazycarlsadventures5983]

😂😂😂 god damn that beard man

[@Keatwonobe]

Lawsuits buy time, keep the pressure on. What a snake in the grass. Releasing your own mother's autopsy as evidence is a kind of desperation I wouldn't wish on most.

[@daodos]

Pressure on to do what exactly? What more is there to go from here?

[@redbasher636]

@@daodos To make him fess up and **stop lying.** TheApologist needs to just donate what he has and LEAVE.

[@TheChildofAuraReborn]

Finally glad someone else mentioned how scummy it was for him to release his mom’s autopsy report. Muta never once questioned the validity of his mom’s diagnosis, nor did he ever claim Jirard was faking it, and even stated in this video he wasn’t touching it. Jirard is trying to slander them as if they ever questioned that his mom had dementia.

[@gwencatz2483]

The autopsy bit is wild. No one ever claimed he was lying about his dead mom. What a way to let her rest in peace, damn.

[@Mikumo91]

@@TheChildofAuraReborn You get it wrong. The autopsy is there to prove they donated to UCSF in the past. Once. The mother's body. He's literally using his dead mom's corpse to cover his ass.

[@AvenirRacing]

The Completionist subreddit has been privated after a head moderator essentially said that they'd be deleting any discussion about the situation, including talk about any further Karl or Muta videos, with the same mod also, without any shame, proudly stating their bias and that they'd spoken with Jirard a heap of times and that they were mates or whatever. The backlash from the community was immense, and as I went to check on things today, found that it'd gone private. Very, very fucking telling.

[@paulmenard6219]

If he did get an attorney it would be one of the first actions the lawyer would recommend. The idea would be to contain the talk. The more people talk the more mistakes come out. This is actually more common than one would imagine with charities. Come to find out.. people will do some messed up things for money. Dementia is no joke... it is horrible. What a shame that Jarid did all this with such personal ties to it.

[@mtbgeologist]

There is a second subreddit called /r/thecompletionist2. There it is open discussion

[@fudalefu1]

Thanks muta and Karl for help donating 600k$ to charity this year. Truly inspirational people.

[@garretdrake2347]

they did nothing of the sort.

[@IT.93]

​@@garretdrake2347it went right over your head

[@cernos7230]

@@garretdrake2347 r/wooosh

[@ebdgr]

​@@garretdrake2347rewatch the video, brother...

[@adamadeptus3686]

​@garretdrake2347 Without them, the money would still be sitting in an account collecting dust. Thanks to the pressure they put on Open Hand, that money was donated this year. Get it?

[@fab307wy7]

I have donated well over 10k over the years, this is such a disappointment. I have been contacted from other 10k + donors about opening a lawsuit against him. After his response, I can tell you without a doubt, we will be moving forward with it.

[@nukins]

Good on you and the rest. Hold him accountable

[@ronthorn3]

Dam that’s a ton of money.

[@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917]

So, do you and the other $10k donors have a secret club or something where you all chat and eat pizza? "Hello. I noticed that you've donated $10k to this charity. That's good. Let's hang out."

[@Rivr_Shen]

GET THAT MF

[@Arcademan09]

If true upload updates to this

[@SaucerheadTharp]

As an accountant, I took the book of the sad story of why the Open Hand foundation was founded and tossed it in the trash. Doesn't matter. In the words of Jerry Maguire: Show me the money. Give me bank statements. Give me receipts. Give me e-mail correspondents with these partners you claimed to have been working with.

[@xxlordxx6862]

2:25 Muta is 100% on the money right here, that was my first thought after I've watched the video, 'Where are the receipts?'. He just quotes numbers for Indieland and the tournamet without providing any proof of those numbers. And regarding the clerical errors, a good accountant can easily hide some missing money.

[@javierortiz82]

To those who say Jirard didn't make anything wrong. He took longer to donate the money than How I Met Your Mother lasted lmao.

[@minkeymouce]

It’s disgusting that it wasn’t shorter than the show’s length… I love that show, should’ve gone on forever lmao

[@Bootlickerkicker]

XD

[@ValorDucky]

Jirard's apology was hollow. He wasn't sorry for holding the money for so long. He's sorry he got caught. Good job Muta and Karl for making him accountable.

[@darkas2006]

Caught doing what ? Lol I don't understand what he was caught doing besides being irresponsible but definitely not malicious, he didn't gain anything by just not donating the money.

[@rahn45]

@@darkas2006 You know, unless an audit reveals they were holding that money in an account that was gathering interest and they were basically sitting on donations as a source of passive income. Course that's just speculation and not provable with current information.

[@Chaos-vm7cy]

​@@darkas2006except that that money now has less value thanks to inflation due to the years it's been sitting on a bank account. It's still wrong and Jerard should be ashamed of himself

[@theoutsiderjess1869]

​@@Chaos-vm7cyor at least be upfront with people

[@ValorDucky]

@@darkas2006 the funds were sitting there for nearly a decade. And Jirard said in several occasions the money was being donated somewhere. If Muta and Karl didn't discover this, how much longer would Jirard hold the money? It's no coincidence the money was finally donated after shit hit the fan.

[@TheHipisterDeer]

Imagine trying to sue someone over defamation when all the knowledge they gathered was publicly available to everyone to see.

[@jsc315]

That is kind of goofy. A court likely will fine him for waisting there time

[@switchitup3709]

The fact that Karlst said it was a scam.

[@RanEncounter]

​@@switchitup3709 It is a scam.

[@FatElk]

​@@switchitup3709and implied that Jirard was keeping for himself, which why would he do that and keep the money in a public account?

[@Adalon-]

Except for the parts where muta accused him of commiting multiple serious felonies, his family of the same thing and then directly called for his audiance to flood the local and federal legal system with reports (this is also known as harassment and incitement). But yeah, lets just gloss over that part and focus on the parts that would obviously be silly

[@Peksisarvinen]

I'm no lawyer, but even I know that slander means very specifically "knowingly making false claims to hurt a person's image", not "mean internet man said mean things about me".

[@Grigorii-j7z]

Being a director, organazer and de-facto face of public charity Jirard became a public person. It's much higher standards to prove defamation.

[@DripSerpent]

​@user-hb7py7xy7b exactly. Muta is also protected by the fact he believes what he is saying, regardless of whether or not its true, a reasonable third party would also come to the same conclusions and thus it isn't slander, libel, defamation or any other pathetic cop-out the hipster beard having dolt wants to use.

[@michaelroberts3898]

Jirard would have to prove actual malice in Mutas and Karl’s report, iirc. That would be a huge hurdle for their suit. Since he won’t be filing anything for 10-12 years anyway, Muta and Karl are both in the stronger position lol.

[@llamaczech]

​@michaelroberts3898 assuming it goes through US Courts. He could easily get Karl in Aus because our defamation laws are shithouse.

[@MegaDarkness5000]

​@llamaczech Australia really is backwards at times.

[@BiggestGal]

I firmly believe that Jirard thinks him stepping down from his position in OHF will somehow help him wash his hands of this whole debacle, which it obviously won't.

[@Christpuncher138]

But... ladies and gentlemen

[@sash7831]

Yeah like If he truly believed he was in the right he wouldn’t step down

[@brettlawrence9015]

@@sash7831shows he doesn’t care about the cause that much too.

[@sash7831]

@@brettlawrence9015 yeah I recon he read some of the responses about restricted donations and went with it since it would be a reasonable reason to hold on to the money. But he’s lying cause he spoke to Karl and Modahar and didn’t mention anything like that. He’s back peddling and stepping down because he knows no one will trust him and he thinks he can just get off with no back lash.

[@ttn-gr4fv]

His defense basically being that his lawyers told him he didn't do anything wrong after admitting he didn't donate for 10 years is mind-blowing.

[@BigBossBernie]

Well, it depends on what his lawyers specialize in - of course it's neither a civic nor a federal crime, but tax lwas are a different animal.

[@Aethelbeorn]

He didnt do anything wrong. *legally* -lawyer probably

[@NightridingDoom]

he needs a new lawyer

[@xTechDeath]

Fr. Dude thinks just cause he can’t get locked up for it he didn’t do anything wrong lmao. The court of public opinion gives no fucks about legality

[@-ism8153]

He says he knew for like two years.

[@Blaze2588]

The way Muta dismantles this whole situation is just incredible, bravo on his part.

[@PurveyorOfTrash]

Thank you for bringing this to light, Muta. My uncle died from his LBD nearly four years ago. He was barely 60. It was difficult to watch him slowly deteriorate in both mind and body until he couldn't even walk without assistance. My once 300lb jovial uncle who always smiled turned into this quiet 90lb man who wouldn't say a word to any of my family. He died before my mother and I made it to the hospital. We sat with his body for hours until the coroner came to take him from the hospital and every second was spent wondering if he managed to find peace in his last moments. My Grandma said that before we got there, he had said her name for the first time in a year, and told her he felt like he'd been dreaming and he even managed to smile. I cannot understand how someone who claims to love their mother who died from Dementia, could let funds that could have helped combat the illness, depreciate in a bank account without feeling like the scum of the Earth.

[@ClawlessnessScizor]

42:10 - 42:50 God I'm so glad you brought this up; when I watched through his response and he said the bits, donations, etc. helped offset the production costs, I was LIVID because I remembered him having said it all goes to the charity. Just a really blatant lie, I'm surprised it wasn't touched on more because that alone is fairly damning.

[@Lakelife247]

It’s called charity fraud lol

[@DresdenShuffle]

His fans are forgiving him and defending him regardless. They’re braindead so you can’t get through to them

[@dragmire3D]

I think Jirard is trying to spin it as, 'all the money goes to charity(the charity specifically being Open Hand). We don't touch any of it(meaning the Completionist's company). Therefore, the charity can spend donated money and proceeds on running the event and other expenses while saying that the people running it don't touch it' I don't think this line of reasoning works when you run both parts and are not clear on which you are representing when asking for donations.

[@NathanCassidy721]

@@DresdenShuffle No they aren't actually. A lot of them are calling him out on his bullshit from the timing of his donation and the frivolousness of the lawsuit. And those that try to defend his actions are actively getting destroyed. They saw right through him on this one. Maybe you should read his comment sections before you broad-stroke a fandom.

[@johnlynch1353]

@@dragmire3D that doesn’t actually work as a defense because the argument is gross income does not match what it should. If the charity was paying for Indy lands cost that would show on the cost of the company, but the gross income would still be the same. It’s not, so that’s not a defense. Example I raise $100 in an event that cost $10 to make I give it all to charity charity gives me $10 to cover cost of the event. It is the charity’s only source of income. tax filings for charity should be Gross income $100 Expenses $10 Net income $90. According to the completionist the $10 was taken out before it was given to the charity which explains why the amount given to charity was lower than it should have been and their tax filings were more like. Gross income $90 Cost $0 Net income $90 If the second one is true, what he said in the clip, and in the disclaimer was a lie because that $10 never went to the charity even if it would’ve been reimbursed anyway.

[@susragejr477]

The fact his fans on twitter have completely forgiven him and are acting like Karl and Mutahar are merely clout chasers trying to profit from the situation is absolutely mind-boggling. The man lied to the public for a decade and pocketed half a million dollars and people are still jumping through hoops to defend him. Mob mentality is a terrifying thing

[@Sherlock277]

Why don’t you look at the mob mentality in the comment section of this video.

[@TisDansk]

@@Sherlock277🤡

[@CalamityTwo]

@@Sherlock277 One side of this conflict has been referencing evidence and public records, the other has not.

[@coreydillon4330]

@@Sherlock277you mean jirads cult defending Jirad like he’s an innocent puppy? At this point his fanbase is complicit in his wrong doing

[@zarbaboiarchive1680]

@@CalamityTwo one side of this 'conflict' is witch hunting, the other isnt

[@the_maverickk]

There was so many issues with Jirards "apology" that didn't sit right with me. 1. The appeal to emotion. I get how personal the cause is to Jirard, it was his mom and family that were victim's of the disease, but that does not make it relevant to bring up the donation of her body. That isn't what people are looking for answers too. Also just because it is personal, doesn't mean that they are incapable of wrong doing in their fundraising practices. These aspects should have, in my opinion, been left out of the apology. They were only put in to tug at heart strings and distract from the problem at hand. 2. As addressed in your video, the brushing aside of the lies regarding their partnerships with different organizations and universities. I saw all those original clips, they were not poorly communicated, or misleading statements... those were outright lies. And ultimately Jirard was lying, year after year, until caught red handed. That to me is what makes it hard to take anything he says at face value. 3. Leaving open hand. I find this decision kind of odd for a man who is insisting that they are above board, did nothing illegal, ect. If they haven't done anything wrong, why leave? Continue raising money like you have been, keep doing the fundraiser. To me the decision to distance himself from Open Hand strikes me as very cautionary to avoid future issues. You know, in case of an audit, in case things go south, and it feels very deliberate to protect his brand (and even in the call with Karl and Muta, you can tell he was very much concerned with how all this was going to look for his brand, and what he had built.) 4. The legal threat. This one really did come off as puffing his chest, cause I don't really see how he can come out so confident after he does basically confirmed that they had misled, and mismanaged the money. Also now that we've heard the convo, we really can say that it is thanks to Karl and Muta that the donation was finally given. So people giving Jirard a pat for finally donating and saying "oh well he's done right, lets forgive" ... remember that is only because they investigated him. To me Jirard will have to re-earn that trust back. These were the immediate things that really didn't sit right with me, mind you I did notice when I peeked the files, that it was a whole load of nothing burger, and everything else that was great to hear, was said without showing the receipts. To me Jirard made a very carefully, constructed reply (probably with the help of a legal team) to try and shift public perception on this matter, and simultaneously threaten to try and get the people investigating to back off. Which again, just raised flag for me. Found it so strange to see people giving this apology a pass, but some people really are easy to sway with emotional appeals.

[@the_maverickk]

A side note, as I've followed this story, I strongly believe that Jirard's end game strategy for this whole controversy will be to put the blame on his father and brother (and I think they will be A-Okay with that, they will take the bullet for him). I think what I mentioned in my third point is the fist step of this move. Jirard stepping down from Open Hand, and dissociating with the fundraiser. Now thanks to Muta sharing that new clip form their initial interview I'd say the seeds are there as well. There is that mention of dispute with his family regarding the fundraiser and the money. He also had mentioned that he was "in the dark" on the status of the money being donated (finding out in 2022) ... insinuating that another family was the one taking care of that. So again, the seeds were planted to give him an out, that he was unaware, that there was some familial dispute, ect. I think that will be his final plot for an Exit scheme. Like a snake shedding it's tail to escape being caught. His last ditch effort to absolve himself of all responsibility for what happened. Mind you that might be trickier after that legal threat where he seemingly stands by his family's name, and instead chose to use his mothers' death as a shield for any criticism. So wonder what path he will ultimately choose.

[@Naptosis]

@@the_maverickk I think you're spot on; especially about his emotional manipulation & exit strategy.

[@the_maverickk]

​@@Naptosis Thanks, I think the emotional manipulation is the aspect that bothers me the most. It's like, just address the claims, that's it.

[@Iblamethebarrels]

Perfectly written

[@fluidwolf]

Honestly regardless of the intentions gone into the charity itself the way he has been handling things when people have put his feet to the fire over it is very telling. A lot of what you point out seems to indicate that he is mostly upset about his brand with this and is trying as hard as he can to not actually do right but swing the narrative back in his favor and get out of the way. It very much seems like someone that is mad that the screw up was discovered and went instant rage defense mode rather than someone who messed up and is trying to make things right. By his own admission he knew the funds were just sitting there for at least a year and went on to lie and needed his arm twisted to get the money actually donated which is just incredibly sad. The saddest thing honestly is that due to inflation that the donations legitimately went down in value compared to how much it would have helped if donated when they should have been

[@bencurtis8838]

Muta and Karl are responsible for this 600k getting donated at this point. Not the completionist. They put more effort into making it happen than he ever did apparently.

[@mcfry13]

Never forget he had a partner, Greg, who left and tried to sue him over financial issues. Jirard has always been shifty and sketchy behind the scenes

[@mediumvillain]

That was also a matter of negligence. They didnt have contracts, so when their friendship soured and he left he had no financial protections in writing for his contributions and had to go about things the hard way.

[@whatthebeepvideos]

​@@mediumvillain You're being very generous to someone who fucked with dementia research money.

[@garygelthaus]

@@whatthebeepvideos and your being willfully ignorant and bias. You being mad doesnt mean people are total villians or that history didnt happen how it did

[@GummyDinosaursify]

@@garygelthaus I never thought i'd see someone trying to defend Jirard's actions but here we are.

[@dredwick]

I think most people are not realizing that Jirard very well might have dementia himself.... there is a genetically inherited variant. Maybe he just forgot?

[@tossacointoyourwitcherOriginal]

As somone who works with charities, the fact that he has tens of thousands of donated $ *spent and listed* as "administration costs" is insane. My charities costs are high as we are all over my country helping a lot of people. I HAVE TO report every PENNY. This means that when i need food for guests or pay the bills for the workspace or buy something for the work space I MUST get the recipt. attach it and send it to the tax office to be looked over. This means my meals cant be a steak and red wine, i cant buy a 3000$ gaming PC for work etc. P.S Most common way i saw charities steal money is by asking the sponsors to provide them with stuff that they would need for the event. Then proceed to write the cost of those things as if they bought/rented them and pocket that money while showing they have said things.

[@DeformedConscience]

Underrated comment!

[@jsc315]

Yep. Everything tedious thing has to be documented. It kind of insane

[@johnlynch1353]

I’m just commenting to push this up so more people can see it. Because I think it’s relevant.

[@acutelilmint8035]

This. This. Writeoff deductibles , admin costs. Thisnis why they were keeping the money.

[@acutelilmint8035]

@@jsc315cause charities also have a lot of write offs and benifits in America. And remember a lot of deductibles

[@tami3456]

The fact that Jirard included his mom's autopsy report for whatever reason is beyond wild. Nobody was ever questioning his mom's illness or her death 🤡.

[@DulyDullahan]

Oddly enough there WERE comments questioning if his mom really died in the first place or if he was lying about it. There weren’t a lot but it does exist

[@DvainsWeassel]

He'll show off his mother's autopsy but not a bank statement

[@helenwhs]

If he proves that irrelevant point as true, audiences may believe other things he says as true.

[@UnfunnE]

All I'm saying is if my mom dies im not gonna try to use that in order to soften me sitting on 600k on donation funds I lied about donating.

[@captainsatire9628]

At best its to convince people he genuinely wanted to do some good. At worst its a scummy manipulation attempt to illicit sympathy

[@ScytheNoire]

I would love to see Jirard try to sue. Hopefully he know about something called "discovery" when it comes to court cases. He's a conman, liar, and criminal.

[@Vega2099x]

Not to mention the charities he claimed to be connected to can sue Jirard, asking for the money due them based on his misleading statements. There's always records

[@voids4818]

Every single one of these conmen immediately pull their lawsuit once they realize they have to go through the discovery process. It’s so funny and so telling

[@Mud-Brain]

Way, way back in the day, Jirard had a cohost on the channel. Out of the blue, he one day left without fully explaining why, but it was under not so pleasant circumstances and his opinion on Jirard was clearly soured by the experience. I'm starting to wonder how long things have been sketchy behind the scenes.

[@oreothecookie3148]

He had a cohost? Was it the guy who made the bear jokes ? Or someone else? It’s been so long

[@madpie5147]

@@oreothecookie3148 i've heard people mentioning some guy named greg who got retroactively nuked from the channel after he left. I think the reason given was "disagreements over money" or something to that nature, too, but i never watched the completionist myself so this is just going off of my recollection of other people's comments

[@YurinanAcquiline]

​@@oreothecookie3148Check RadIcal Rick Entertainment. He has his own thoughts on it. He swears a lot though...

[@Sagemichris]

@@madpie5147Yeah you got it right, greg pretty much said he wanted nothing to do or be associated with the completions channel and asked all his appearances and episodes be nuked

[@backfisch7021]

yeah after that all the episodes with him got deleted and remaked over the years under the name new game plus.

[@justinm3745]

I think another aspect is that Jirard does not appreciate the moral conundrum here. He seems to just think if he proves they technically were not doing any legal wrongdoing, he's all good and this is all being blown out of proportion, he's being bullied, etc. Desperate and manipulative people use all the tactics he used. Clouding judgement with emotional hardships, smokescreen by addressing irrelevant, pointless claims, getting visibly angry and threatening a lawsuit to intimidate, apologizing for people "feeling a certain way" instead of addressing the real reason why people are upset....etc. He is so offended people want to look into him when they have legitimate reasons to do so. He acts so fishy it's impressive.

[@dougglez16]

Good point. But I think Jirard is well aware of the moral conundrum. He did make that comment on the discord call that there is the issue of legality vs morality. I think that there is so much more he would want to say but since they've lawyered up, he his has to go off the script. I think a lawyer would have him avoid the moral side because it would imply guilt. But even then I could be wrong because by the end of Jirard's response he leans so far into the "righteous indignation" character, claiming to be the victim himself. He made it so much worse by doubling down, that's for sure...

[@justinm3745]

@@dougglez16 oh absolutely, he did not help himself by committing to that narrative.

[@RigRacers]

After donating alot of my own money during Indieland over the years, I can't stress enough how disappointing this all is. To call Jirard anything but deceptive and dishonest is fcking bs. He consistently, intentionally lied to countless people knowing his lies would garner more donations since people thought they were legitimate and working directly with those foundations. That is FRAUD.

[@andybrown6515]

U need to look up fraud

[@kris8569]

@@andybrown6515 Well from this 55 minute video, which you obviously didn’t watch, it counts as fraud. During the event he stated that ALL bits, subs, and dono’s would go to charity. Then on his Twitter video yesterday he stated that those were used to offset the cost of the event. THAT…IS…FUCKING…CHARITY FRAUD!! Smh 🤦‍♂️

[@yeahitsmesofkinwhat]

@@andybrown6515 After you graduate high school in 6 years, you can go to law school and learn that you're completely wrong.

[@Real-Name..Maqavoy]

@@andybrown6515 That still falls under Fraud. If your misleading and using false statements (as he already has) does fall under - Charity fraud. Not to mention the Gross negligence (which you also can be liabe for) on management he have had over the years.

[@RigRacers]

@@andybrown6515Via the Oxford Dictionary; "Fraud - *wrongful/criminal deception intended* to result in *financial or personal gain.* " You can't debate whether or not he did exactly that.

[@whichDude]

Mutahar: "I cant believe this guy is trying to sue me for just telling the truth." Karl: "First time?"

[@DonkeyPuncher1976]

Jirard in his video said ‘this is the last time I’m going to talk about this issue’. I have a feeling this won’t be the last time if he wants his channel to continue.

[@theritchie2173]

For someone so vehemently opposed to charity admin costs, they sure don't seem to mind claiming some fairly hefty admin costs of their own.

[@tehSunBro]

He quite literally said they are legally obligated to use the money for administration costs. Which makes it even more clear why they wanted to make sure the money couldn't be used for anything but the intended purpose by whoever got it. Like he said, an open donation will be used for salaries, expenses, and even bonuses. How much are you willing to bet that at least 50% of that money they were now forced to donate will be used for anything but the intended purpose.

[@smackssmacks1306]

@@tehSunBro 50% is still better than 0%, which is what they were getting until now

[@UfoShotgun96]

@@tehSunBro and were they legally obligated to spend that much? or to put the money in an interest free account so that it just loses even more money to inflation? and even if the funds aren't used for a specific purpose, as long as they actually managed to find a respectable charity, after 10 years of research they fucking should, the money would still go to helping the charity operate and help it continue to raise money for charity instead of it just sitting in an account losing value. Get better arguments. edit: they also made a restricted donation anyway since the charity published a breakdown of what the money would be going to, again get better arguments.

[@Buck6022]

​@@tehSunBro What is intended purpose ?? In this time where we have alot of watchdog organization good rating organization have under 20% admin cost, I didn't bother to look what rating of the org he donate to but if he do his work for at least 30 minutes he can easily achieved your low bar of 50%. But if your intended purpose is where he can pinpoint where every cent goes I guess it is weird and too hard for almost all organization.

[@jakkandjing]

​@tehSunBro Guess what, brain research and doctor's don't work for free or for cheap, and research centers also need accountants, janitors, receptionists, maintenance workers, security. Also those staff are gonna need staplers, pens, paper, printers, printer ink, desks, cleaning supplies, lab equipment, water and electricity, internet network ect ect. It sucks to feel that part of a donation goes to things like those but that's just how it is and honestly restricted donations marked for a singular purpose make it harder for research organizations to operate.

[@TheRoaRMunster]

His response was emotionally manipulative, which is all he needed for those who were always going to support him. He's trying to hide behind the empathy of others.

[@doncristobal33]

Typical gaslighting behavior, which makes me think the issue is even deeper than we think

[@Past_Reflection]

Muta the type of guy to get a knock on his door by the IRS, but instead of a spontaneous audit, they ask if he wants a job.

[@dnmstarsi]

And the guy offering the job is Sam Jackson himself. LOL

[@zachflag6506]

@@dnmstarsi​​⁠ “I’m putting a team together. It’s a group of some ordinary gamers who could come together to do something… extraordinary…”

[@RevenantNeverDies]

literally that image of the dude writing in ink and quill while the house burns down around him. you are cooking so hard rn@@zachflag6506

[@maninthemask6275]

Any one working for the irs is scum though.

[@bryce4650]

@@zachflag6506Marvel: the extraordinary gamers

[@perciusmandate]

Jirard needs to hire a PR guy. Or fire the one he's got if they okayed this mess. Making threats doesn't make you look like the good guy.

[@oetproductions8101]

Almost like he isn’t.

[@sapphail2410]

He's an adherent of the Logan Paul school of PR.

[@dongordon2754]

He's already been caught making explicitly fraudulent statements, lol. He should have just taken the fuckin L like he said something about in the first video.

[@payphone86]

He also needs to fire his legal team if they’re seriously considering a lawsuit. It would be an absolute waste of money and time.

[@exciting-burp]

My wife worked in non-profit. They want funds to be unrestricted because donors don't actually know what the community needs the most. Her employer did accept restricted funds but she said they almost always achieved nothing.

[@momzwrite]

I'm curious on this point because I suspect some of Open Hands "restrictions" might be pretty extreme, like free PR or extraneous benefits that would be more for Open Hands benefit than actual research benefits. In your experience, did you ever have donors with so many strings attached that it seems they were more "purchasing" your endorsement than they were actually benefiting your org.? Edit: I suppose this question would be for your wife

[@CamembertDave]

@@momzwrite This is one point that I think makes more sense to put down to incompetence rather than anything nefarious. It's not like they're saving money by restricting the donation - if they only cared about getting an endorsement, surely they wouldn't care if the donation was unrestricted?

[@AgentGWG]

Thank you for saying this. Event Muta in his previous video said “restricted funds would keep the money out of charity president’s pockets.” Which stigmatizes charities as needing to be handcuffed by restricted funds to actually get work done. We can all think of the big bad ones that engage in that type of activity like Wounded Warriors or Think Pink, but the vast majority of charities work on slim budgets as they dedicate their funds to doing what they actually say. People in charities do hard work as deserve to be compensated for that work. Charities should have the opportunity to hire new employees to expand their operations and do more good. Restricted funds can sometimes get in the way of those activities and painting them as the only right way to give to charities is just wrong.

[@bl00dleter]

It never achieves anything. You make 600k not go into ceo pockets? Ok they will just take that share from the unrestricted ones... end money distribution is exactly the same.

[@The_Spin_Zone]

My grandpa died from dementia this early year, completely destroyed my mom, I donated to this in the past, what a sucker I am, to think years worth of research wasted

[@kenzosrevenge8451]

You’re not a sucker. Your grandpa would have been proud of you because you actively donated to what you were told was something to help people. You were lied to, that’s not your fault.

[@thecoolestofthe834s2]

@@kenzosrevenge8451 this proves the point of dont donate as none of it goes to the causes it says they do if you ju

[@CharlesFreck]

This does not change the fact there's potentially a million missing dollars that we don't know about and he's trying to dodge it. Simply put, he completely avoided answering any of the real allegations, and only responded to strawman allegation that aren't real. He's hoping by 'proving' his innocence regarding these made up 'allegations' that no one's actually making, that the internet will accept and move on, forgetting about the actual allegations. It's the number one strategy for someone that's doing something wrong. Respond to the things you're innocent of/make up allegations and pretend that's all of the controversy.

[@roundpaw]

Jirard becoming visibly angry at the tail end of his response was infuriating af. Not only was he in the wrong to have traded off the back of charities' names, but it comes across as disingenuous, and more that he's angry to have been called out and his squeaky clean rep to have been damaged

[@jgalla5549]

Karl and Mutahar dared to not buy his wholesome, happy youtuber persona, and called out his inconsistencies. The "nerve" of that probably pissed him off as he's used to being a lovable youtuber guy.

[@jessegordon9726]

Him getting angry isn't surprising. Either he's innocent and is mad that they are destroying his reputation for no reason, or he is guilty and pissed that he got caught and called out. Either way, the anger is not a shocking development.

[@Apollo_____]

While they were right to bring this to light both mutahar and Karl have brought up points that could have been solved with a little research. There were clear negligence on thier parts when pointing out exactly what he did wrong and it would make anybody mad

[@guzzuanim]

@@jgalla5549 You just worded it out perfectly.

[@elijahmeilak2906]

Of course he'd be angry! His name is being dragged through the mud by two KZbinrs who are pretending to know more than they actually do.

[@dee1720]

i love that muta and karl did more to help dementia research than jirard did because they finally forced him to donate

[@garretdrake2347]

they did nothing except make clickbait drama videos with no information.

[@melee9183]

​@garretdrake2347 bruh they had the information. 600k wasn't donated for years. Just that alone is scummy af and a disservice to everyone who donated by not actually putting that money to use and wasting all this time that could've been used for research. It shouldn't have taken him that long to find a charitable place to give the money to.

[@irngineer1766]

@garretdrake2347 Found the guy who didn't even watch karl or muta's videos.

[@garretdrake2347]

@@irngineer1766 found the guy who didn't watch Jirards response.

[@grunkleg.2934]

@@garretdrake2347 'Response' is one way to put it. Did he ever actually address why it took him 10 years to find somewhere to donate the money, or was the video just him trying to deflect all criticism?

[@rûsson1999]

For Jirard to sue would be legal game ending for him. That's either an empty threat; or a really stupid move. He sues, *everything* will be brought to light. Lawyers will have a field day requesting discovery on everything tied to his charity. Part of me would love to see this happen, if he's serious, lol

[@nexemisroguelikes234]

Specifically a 10 year dissecting.

[@astupidlylongnamethatstoolong]

I say let him sue. I'd like to see another Andrew Wackyfield sueing someone exposing a scam only to ruim his life.

[@kobra6660]

If he did sue your gonna see all his games and toys for sale to support his legal charity fund

[@mistagunzz9670]

​@@kobra6660you realize a lawyer will try to account for EVERY cent. And all those "harmless miscalculation" will be completely blown out of proportion (because that's what lawyers do). It'll be easier for a lawyer to argue fraud then for a lawyer to argue defamation

[@asianpablo1574]

It’s a pr move to try and get his casual fans to stay on his side and ignore what the haters say. A lot of the video came off as him wanting to continue his KZbin career and appeal to the casual audience with empty threats and empty evidence

[@SleepyMook]

The fact he donated the money over 10 years later after getting called out for it is sad as shit.

[@kitten1591]

I'd like to point out that the original videos by Muta and Karl were simply "The Completionist's charity has been lying to you". That is fact and will never change.

[@apoclypse]

I mean they proved that to be true several times at this point and Jirard himself admitted to the fact on a Discord call.

[@CridgetMan1234]

They ceased to be that when they accused them of fraud directly.

[@ffff7164]

@@CridgetMan1234 Very high chance of fraud.

[@leonxpc1]

@@CridgetMan1234 @kitten1591 the thing is that nothing Mutha and Karl said ws untrue given the evidence AND nobody accused anyone of fraud directly. Stating hey this guy looks like its doing ABC under the definition of ABC given this and this facts... is not accusing directly the guy of ABC, its just pointing out an observation and wondering, whats next then, hows the guy going to respond

[@john_titor1]

@@CridgetMan1234 They literally never directly accused him of fraud. They just showed that they had misrepresented where the money was going, which is in fact a type of fraud.

[@RaidenKaiser]

The instant he threatened to sue you is the moment I lost any sense of doubt about him being 100% malicious and fraudulent. Using Lawsuits to silence allegations or criticism is the number 1 way I immediately go red alert and lose any trust in the person.

[@RyukoNWM]

Why do people automatically boil down anything a commentary KZbinr says as “criticism”. Karl and Muda made allegations that hurt his brand. Not everything is a KZbin drama

[@jsc315]

It was a legit investigation and concern and I wanted answers. Somehow Jirrad thought that was an actual threat by calling out how bad it looks. There's no court that will ever come to a conclusion that this is defamation. I'm not even sure he watched any of the the videos he claims harassment is why kind let alone defamation.

[@VinAn-d8m]

This. I work with victims of violence and the first thing the accused does is threaten to sue due to "defamation". It is a scummy scare tactic.

[@Adalon-]

​@@VinAn-d8mfunny thing is, innocent people tend to do the same. Weird isn't it?

[@silverlight6074]

@@RyukoNWM He literally said "allegations or criticism," and you also called them allegations. I don't see why you got hung up on the word "criticism" when the sentence was a broad condemnation of people using frivolous lawsuits to attack people who do either. This is not an isolated thing that has only happened in this one specific situation, after all.

[@Jakapoa]

22:34 I just want to point out Muta completely missed why the UCSF keeps getting mentioned by Jirard, which is because that's where his mother's body was donated. That's why he brother described the UCSF as a "historical donation" in his letter, and why Jirard seemingly randomly gave out his mother's autopsy report. However, the single donation back in 2014 doesn’t technically constitute as "currently working with" an organization when it's a single donation. "Current" implies contributions being made or services being provided at regular intervals, or within a recent period of time. What the OHF technically did was "previously worked with" the UCSF, which is not the same. I'm going to go out on a limb and say Jirard sees it as an active contribution given how they donated his mother to them, and that they could be to this day still referencing samples that were provided by his mother. Still, that single word "current" was not a correct statement. To compound things, Jirard in his response did not note this, and instead the entire statement about his mother came out as random and pandering. AT NO POINT did Jirard ever mention the UCSF or why he was providing an autopsy report, instead leaving it up to people to read the footnotes and figure it out. This is baffling, when the UCSF "partnership" was something that was a large contradiction amid other statements. Muta really should have caught this, but Jirard's response was also very lacking.

[@humanbean3]

wait, so my mom dying of cancer, and me signing that piece of paper that said they could donate her tumor and stuff for research allows me to start a charity and pretend im "actively working with them"? wow... to have the gull to be that misleading is some major narcissistic action right there.

[@gabrielmayen3933]

Oooomg that makes sense now. Yeah, definitely doesnt exude him, but that really explains it. Thank you

[@glurb69]

I hope he is able to see this, this is important information.

[@IwhowasdatXD960]

Hopefully this gets seen by him

[@missmia196]

Bump

[@NozdormusRage]

The response on X was so fucking wild. So many people believed this dude, taking every single thing at face value, while not even bothering to read the links he showed. They were all bait. Every single one. The only one that had any merit was the one to change to a public foundation. Linking his mother's autopsy was despicable. I feel so sorry for her.

[@befru]

It seems like anyone involved in the Open Hand Foundation talks about the dead mom in every statement they make.

[@ZTenski]

You know it's bad when fuckin' Keemstar replies to his tweet with a bunch of CAPSLOCK like a 12 year old, and all I can think is "you know what, I agree with keemstar" lol

[@spankypants2793]

lol at calling twitter "x"

[@reanimationxp]

you feel sorry for a dead person? weird

[@NozdormusRage]

@@spankypants2793 I know right? It's definitely still known as Twitter.

[@De.ladmahboi]

You can really tell who was in the wrong by the simple act of Jerard trying to shut mudahar up with the threat of a lawsuit. Damn his analytics also show that people are seeing through the lies slowly but surely

[@llewelynshingler2173]

If you are an investigator and you are sued either you are about to succeed or you done goofed. And The Mutahar/Karl alliance was careful to avoid goofs.

[@dion8895]

It was in your initial interview with him when he defeatedly just said "You're just going to say whatever...." that I got the impression that this isn't just innocent negligence, and that a scammer knew he'd been caught. There's still more to this, I bet

[@DragonNexus]

Throughout he was focused on how it all made him look. Not how to fix the problem. Donating the money makes it look like he has something to hide? Really? I'd have thought the opposite. If I were him I'd have donated it, got on the call and said "The money has been donated because I want to make this right. I can't make it 100% right, but I can correct the biggest wrong so far and take steps from here to fix the rest." Continuing to hold onto it just made it look like he cared more about his image than actually helping people.

[@luisarroyo7656]

@@DragonNexus Worrying about how it makes him look only makes sense if he's aware of foul play. Why would he make a response video essentially giving reasons why donating the money doesn't make him look bad if he wasn't worried about it? Why would he, if he has nothing to hide, worry about how he looks donating the money to charity if that was his intention all along?

[@Skylancer727]

​@@luisarroyo7656it could also be for legal precedence if he ever does go to court whether against Muda or from the IRS. His lines were very deliberate without guaranteeing solid answers and many of the claims. The video was mainly targeting the claims of their accounting being flawed or money being missing. It didn't at all cover the main claims made in the first video. Jirard's response really just seems to preempt an IRS suit.

[@luisarroyo7656]

@@Skylancer727 That's very fair and well put. I think that also supports the idea that he's worried about how he looks in this instance, because he wouldn't have reason to be worried about that even if an IRS suit followed assuming he wasn't aware of any foul play. There were multiple things he could've done to prevent himself being put in the position where he felt he had to make a response video in the first place.

[@Skylancer727]

@luisarroyo7656 Like I said, the main things he seemed to target are the claims of embezzlement which were always a huge stretch. Considering the charity was run entirely by his family it's likely they just have no idea what they're doing. I will say that him claiming the money went back into the events is a pretty damning thing to say, I honestly can't believe he openly stated that in the video considering how open he's been this whole time about not touching any of it.

[@thaiwin6173]

If you ever feel like a smooth brain, remember that Jirard's fanbase somehow still supports him and his charity.

[@sfooshy4517]

Most of them don't. Theres always going to be a few people that can't think for themselves. They don't speak for the majority.

[@EnderElohim]

@@sfooshy4517 also you ignoring people that give no fuck about it and there are tons of people like that.

[@scott963]

I think part of it is that a large group of his fans watched him back when they were kids or teenagers, and they grew to love him. So when we found out he is a massive scumbag they couldn't or didn't want to accept it, so they believed Muta and others were liying and the Completionist could do no wrong

[@johnnyflannigan136]

Really not that big of a deal.. If they were just saving the money for a huge donation... You people screeching about fraud and scams are just as bad

[@SonyaBladesBooty]

Jerard has not been proven to have done anything wrong. I hope he sues Muta for every last dollar.

[@upcdownsyleftsyrightc]

Jirard: "My family and I have not done anything illegal. Not before then and not since" Jirard ADMITTING yeah, the charity fraud is illegal. But we haven't done anything since then. And we definitely didn't do anything before then. Good job Jirard.

[@Elle-elle-elle]

Seriously the man excels at ruining any future defense. This is repeated behaviour

[@tiagocosmos]

He really isn't a good speaker.

[@darthgamer9861]

@@tiagocosmoswhich, given his job involves talking at great length, that’s kind of an issue.

[@meikaishi]

What bothers me the most on jirard's response is that even if I wanted to give him all the benefits of the doubt in the world he still, at the very fucking minimum, lied for over 10 years about the state of those donations, like c'mon man, you don't get to act all butthurt saying that actually you were hoarding the money because the objective has always been to make this very specific form of donation when you went 10 years without ever mentioning it and, even worse, naming the organizations you were supposedly helping with all those donations, Jirard think that as long as it wasn't illegal he has nothing to be criticized for but he's very wrong

[@-ism8153]

He said he only found out in 2022, but it is a bit weird considering what a high position he has. Then again, as an influencer, he might just keep to running the stream and whatnot and not actually look very deeply into the workings of the organization or hold his position in a very meaningful way.

[@RamenFuel7700]

Just look at his face, he’s not sorry at all. He’s clearly more concerned about his image and getting revenge.

[@TheAwesomeness1123]

Whether you believe him or not he said he just found out last year, so no at the very fucking minimum he didn’t lie for 10 years it was 1. Doesn’t make anything much better but your whole comment is kinda just incorrect

[@meikaishi]

@@TheAwesomeness1123 If you want to believe that he only found out about it last year than his whole explanation as to why they were holding onto the money instead of donating it makes no sense, he lied either way

[@deimoskaischylos]

⁠​⁠@@TheAwesomeness1123 You are wrong. That has been his new excuse: that this lump donation was the plan all along. So, that means either he was lying all along-for years-or lying for one year, like you said, and lied during the call. Completionist himself made the OP’s comment perfectly valid. Schrödinger's Lie. Plus, it being only a lie for a year wouldn’t be better…

[@Tonikane]

And to think this was all started with an anonymous tip

[@HappyBell92]

I bet it was his old co-host Greg

[@jamessmall7850]

@@HappyBell92 When did Greg leave the completionist? My gut says it is unrelated, but the mystery lover in me desperately wants Greg to be the source of that tip.

[@hellotheresunshine]

Maybe that is why he wants to sue, find out whi that is.

[@GoodChris25]

@@HappyBell92lmao ive been posting that since the start of this. 😂

[@GoodChris25]

@@jamessmall7850 I believe in Carl’s video about the golf tournament. You can see Greg in one of the pictures, so maybe he knew something about what was going on.

[@SpartanOfLuxon]

Two things happened from this whole ordeal, $600k was donated to a charity that otherwise would have never been, and I unsubscribed from the Completionist and subscribed to Karl and Muta

[@gonzalomunoztapia]

Karl is an absolute legend!

[@videozz2012]

😂😂😂

[@techienate]

There was no ukulele, but this was a classic narcissistic response: bury the real issues under distractions chosen to appear as receipts like the autopsy or links to IRS definitions, distract, deflect, and then claim to be the real victims.

[@All-Fur-Coat_No-Trousers]

Jirard will never risk a lawsuit because there's absolutely more skeletons in the closet and he'd open himself up to discovery. Never. Gonna. Happen.

[@asianpablo1574]

His response video and him joining the call with them opened himself up to so many potential lawsuits. Those were his biggest mistakes

[@ThickpropheT]

Not to mention how difficult it is for a plaintiff of a defamation suit to win. You have to prove that the actions of the defendant had a real impact on your brand/image. Some hearsay like, "Well, so and so said xyz and I that's bad for my brand..." If you can't prove it, you won't win. That said, a lawyer would definitely advise against pursuing a suit, but you're free to ignore their advice. They'll gladly accept payment should you decide to proceed with the defamation suit.

[@rudolfrudi5452]

@@asianpablo1574 Right? imagine threatening to sue after you did those things , i am pretty sure he did not pass the response script to a lawyer, any half assed lawyer would have told him to not say something like that. It's clear that those are empty threats in an attempt to scare them into stop talking about the situation

[@JMR0303]

That and neither Muta nor Karl are in the US, and international litigation is NOT cheap. Have fun!

[@mroutcast8515]

Idk, I think he and his lawyers seriously underestimate Mutahar and Karl, but these guys showed they top Jirard's lawyers which cost him probably thousands of dollars, LUL. But technically - you're right, if his lawyers he pays that much have any competence - they'll advice against any lawsuits, it's just was PR tactic to spook them off with lawsuit threat - which as expected - didn't work, because Mutahar and Karl ain't stupid guys.

[@BatLB]

Community: You collected hundreds of thousands of dollars but didnt donate it! Jirard: No, my mum really died, look thats the autopsy report ????

[@keymo9480]

Right. Like um….

[@SuperUltimateLP]

He had less of a problem donating her body to science then donating money to do actual science on the donated bodies...

[@Virdice]

Just wanted some sympathy points

[@xNemesis_]

​@@SuperUltimateLP💀

[@__1201]

He was trying to garner sympathy, not a good decision though.

[@DenysNathionaro]

If your charity foundation is being acused of not donating the money raised for the past 10 years, dont't describe that as "not fucking cool".

[@Thornskade]

It's more like "not fucking acceptable"

[@bitsandbobs42]

That's not what got Moody in hot water, he crossed the line with that golf course video, he absolutely should be taking this seriously and making videos like this just makes his lawyer's job even harder.

[@coloneldookie7222]

In the Friends Per Second clip, he stutters into sentences and bails on finishing the sentence because he realized that he was about to continue digging his own grave with more lies that will dig his grave further.

[@razreflex7607]

I noticed that to he starts saying a big word about accruing money then starts going off about why he started the charity