Please NEVER Connect Windows XP To The Internet...

[@KingCheckOut]

shout out to the person watching this on Windows XP

[@IcyUuUu]

I’m on Windows 2000 so I’m gucci

[@Toki_the_Sponge]

Shout out to the person who hacked them

[@personnel5757]

I, for one, welcome my new Botnet overlords this message was sent by my Win XP SP2 machine

[@ALIENSHYBOI]

⁠@@IcyUuUu:0 fucking yo. Flashbacks to old primary school computers rn.

[@FennecTECH]

im watching on an xp netbook thats dropping more frames than its displaying also the audio is15 seconds late

[@harryshuman9637]

Good thing it's Windows XP only, I was worried about my Windows 98 system for a bit.

[@the-abzie]

Eric actually did the same with a Win98 machine and was deemed it was "safer" than XP calling it security through osbcurity as the market share for 98 is lower than XP. There are far less exploits targeting that version of Windows in the wild now.

[@harryshuman9637]

@@the-abzie More like security by means of kids refusing to learn pre-XP Windows API... the horror

[@bandname]

What about 95?

[@rottierobben4651]

@@bandname Most likely same thing as 98, and ME. 2000 not too sure. Windows 7 is more recent and had updates more recently, same with 8 and 8.1

[@franciscofranco5739]

@@bandnamewhat about MS DOS

[@octogtag214]

in 23 years... "Please NEVER Connect Windows 11 To The Internet..."

[@MustacheDLuffy]

Actually 7 years and 3 months from now lol

[@joveaaron-real]

@@MustacheDLuffy 23 years as in 23 years right now since the release of XP, not when the OS's update support is dropped

[@johnnyrocketfingaz]

No one asked ​@@joveaaron-real

[@Hey-Its-Tech]

Windows 11 likely just flat out wont work without Internet before its EOL. Microsoft's greed to control and farm user systems and data will likely lead to Windows becoming more and more of an ONLINE OS only. FFS, you already have to Hardware disable the internet to avoid using it during windows install. and press yes to skipping online setup 3+ times to go past it.

[@no3ironman11100]

I'm so tired...

[@SoilentGr33n]

More people are using XP than 8 first edition. I love this.

[@sergrojGrayFace]

What's surprising is that anyone at all is using Win 8.0 and not updating to 8.1.

[@christopherleubner6633]

8 was horrible for normal uses but wasn't too bad for obligate touch screen devices like the touch screen POS devices or process controllers with the bloatware removed ❤

[@GoldenPickaxe]

@@christopherleubner66338 would have been a great tablet OS

[@TouchPlayEmu]

I am cause whenever I try to update it will never Install it

[@zengineer3369]

8.0 was the sickest joke in known history that took 10 thousand different psychologists to create the most ass user experience known to man.

[@catcoder12]

Fun Fact: Even though WinXP EOL was 2014, it still received a security patch for WannaCry ransomware because of how serious it was.

[@LordFakeGodz]

It's because some key component computer uses windows XP, a lot of things, even the modern hardwere/softwer are tied to that WinXP, somewhere in the deep server room, heck pretty sure msDOS still being used. Replacing them IS possible, but imagine if that WinXP tied to 100+ other stuff... and those 100+ stuff also tied to other stuff... sheesh, yeah headache. It's easier to just create a "gate" (firewall) that block stuff going into that WinXP, rather than replacing the WinXP.

[@Herrowpries]

And also how much market share it still has/had*

[@ImadZeryouh]

@@LordFakeGodz But when u boot up a external Linux to windows, then cyberware cant stop u. So u can search for the ramsomware and delete it. Not alot know this because its simple. Whole companies in my country got lost database because of not knowing this. During that time I shocked alot of gamers because alot of XP users got locked out but not me. XD

[@NCSGeek]

​@@ImadZeryouhthe files will still be encrypted. That's the entire point of ransomware

[@justanotheroldcomment.4582]

The 2015 Cryptocurrency hack caused massive damage in the NHS in particular in the UK because a lot of their computers were still using Windows XP.

[@GamingOnWindows]

TLDW: Connecting Windows XP to the internet without a firewall is like screwing without a condom.

[@nono-yh2vi]

Ty for saving me 15 minutes of yapping

[@libertyprime2013]

So it feels good?

[@libertyprime2013]

But you get aids and end up on child support?

[@CometWarriorG]

@@libertyprime2013Thats certainly one way to interpret it 😭

[@iscander_s]

connecting any pc without firewall is a bad idea

[@pinkdiamond1847]

Every government institution: I'm going to ignore this.

[@balkamp8888]

Accurate

[@AdityaSingh-gb2lk]

Biden literally

[@officialnucky]

And McDonald's

[@ennuiii]

I believe they utilize special versions of the os, I know they do for a fact in the department of energy

[@Warp2090]

@@laserheadpie06 liar

[@silastithing6897]

Mutahar, you should know this, but in the demonstration the guy: 1. Disabled the firewall 2. Opened all ports to the VM (no router, direct connected to Internet) 3. Was using IE6 4. Was on SP1 XP, which hasn't been widely used in 20 years. Right now, do three of these things on Windows 11, I guarantee you'll get the same effect. Furthermore there is no evidence this guy didn't inject his own malware for the video. With the firewall enabled, connect XP SP3 (the version almost everybody is on) to the internet and watch for malware. There won't be any malware.

[@TJ-wf1rr]

Couldn't have said it any better myself

[@shelladdition]

EternalBlue wants to know your location

[@frighteningspoon]

Good thing you cleared that up!

[@ToasterBath]

Advanced Fear mongering

[@kiwifrizzle2725]

Pretty sure Muta knows

[@mynock250]

I worked for a very large government agency with a very very big budget in the states, all of our computers use XP and we still get updates. All of our issued government phones are new iPhones running a very old IOS for similar reason. All the exploits are known and we still get security updates.

[@Spacecoreinspace]

don't some of the military pcs still use floppy disks for very specific things?

[@Soulfin]

So if it ain't broke don't fix it.

[@Ben_3113]

@@Spacecoreinspaceyep, the bigger 5inch too

[@Astroisback01]

You sure ? I mean microsoft did said it doesn't provide update at all if you are getting some update it most likely by some private owned thing but I doubt that exist and government would pay them to keep updating stuffs.

[@sebclot9478]

@@Astroisback01 Microsoft was providing updates to Windows XP's POS version through 2019 and most of those worked on regular Windows XP Pro with a few mods. So they were doing some XP updates at least that long anyways. It wouldn't be much of a stretch for them to continue to provide updates for clients willing to shell out the extra cash.

[@TheGhostInTheWires]

Russians in My System would be a really cool band name.

[@ShiggyMiyamo]

RiMS for short. or just RMS

[@ssssnnnnzzzz]

Russians in My Country

[@SkywardKing]

Pause

[@Mellanie_Zalthorarjir]

@RogueSplinterCell Which is made of just all kinds of post beeps and boobs and hanging soundcards as instruments ?

[@tweezersalad4075]

average Vatican Shadow song title name

[@RyuRamasama]

Someone needs to just set up a league of people installing Windows XP and trying to hack each other for an hour. And stream that shit.

[@DEADEYESTUDIO]

thatd actually be kind of entertaining

[@NickyDekker89]

It would be trivial. Fire up Metasploit and press enter. Done.

[@Whiteknight-xg2pq]

MLHaC- Major League Hacking and Countering. The penultimate nerd fight.

[@burgzaza]

Why isn't that an esport yet?

[@kevinsteinman8967]

@@burgzaza That would be an interesting Esport - Hear Ye, Hear Ye, Bring out your Best Geeks for the Fight of the Century of the Greatest OS in History after they finished it and came out with the nightmare of Vista.

[@JuanGamer0202]

I grew up with XP, this operating system has its own place in my heart, and I gotta say it is so sad to know millitary and other government agencies still get support to XP and simply refuse so share this with the world lmao

[@jayceneal5273]

yeah i mean they already did the work to update it, may as well let us have access too

[@Grigorii-j7z]

Huge chuck of current XP users are inner corporate and embedded systems. XP had been cut from support long time ago, Billy told us so.

[@shelladdition]

as someone who knows someone who pentests government facility's i can say with certainty there are windows xp systems running in military facility's right now

[@AndrewScott-pj7in]

US freight schedulers run off software only compatible with 98.

[@memejeff]

Wait what. Are you telling me there is a windows xp version that can be used on embedded systems.

[@VikingKong.]

@shelladdition you don't know how apostrophes work.

[@TheRealXartaX]

@@shelladdition Then you'd also know that those organizations have deals with Microsoft that gives them security updates etc. even if the support for the public is long gone. Which means that support exists, but Microsoft just won't let you have 'em because they want you on modern OS so they can datamine you.

[@GottkaiserFhqwhgod]

Windows 11 removed features I need in every day use. I will never downgrade to it. Them ending support for 10 this fast is insane. Especially since a lot of systems cannot run 11 thanks to their hardware.

[@RocketeerRaccoon]

Yeah, the hardware requirements is definitely Windows 11's biggest downfall, the end of life thing for Windows 10 is gonna force more people to switch to Linux.

[@Rayjacker]

@@RocketeerRaccoon Or keep running Win10 until their PC breaks or none of their software works on it anymore. If users aren't tech inclined they won't know how to bypass 11's requirements, switch to LTSC IoT, or move to Linux.

[@RocketeerRaccoon]

@@Rayjacker Well, it's not really recommended to keep using any OS that isn't supported with security updates anymore, hence this video.

[@Lusitano-ln6od]

I downgraded from 11 to 10 and now I’m currently using Linux LMDE Faye 6

[@NathanYellowStarProductions]

I know it's officially not possible but it is technically possible to bypass these requirements. I actually used to run Windows 11 on a Kabylake laptop back in 2021, the only downside is Kabylake has GPU issues with Windows 11 but if you didn't care about it then that's okay. Linux isn't practical as many Windows programs including my programs i made will run either broken or worse refuse to run at all.

[@Hambo325]

To back up what Muta was saying, I do IT work for the Army. I joined about 3-4 years ago. As part of our "training" I learned how to set up an Outlook 2007 Email Server. We are so far behind bros. It's a bit of a running joke among us that military grade just means old and garbage

[@fireblow44]

It's not just an army internal joke

[@SergeantWaffles]

It's not that bad, in some cases it's more secure and stable

[@GoongisKahn]

Don’t listen to Muta. Return to XP. Green fields FOREVER.

[@captainazrale4404]

💚

[@enkerro-ti8jg]

noo I have to browse reddit with windows NT just because!

[@Solaceon]

Absolute bliss.

[@FuckYouTube00]

YES 💚 BLISS SWEEP

[@grayslicer09]

Crazy how we there has never been a wallpaper that can top Bliss

[@highpol1ce]

Casually checks a website for pings from xp machines* Accidentally stumbles upon a machine for *THE* Institute for Nuclear Research in Russia* "I'm sure they're going to be fine" 😊

[@matthewdeklerk3457]

Honeypot for sure

[@Dogeathotdog1]

In house is more likely

[@Delimon007]

They actually are updating the security on those systems still. It's just if you use a basic windows XP system.

[@silastithing6897]

@Delimon007 Microsoft has not officially supported any XP build until 2019. But like modern windows, the only way to attack a fully updated Win XP build remotely is to get someone to run untrusted code consensually.

[@mariusvasile6543]

​@@matthewdeklerk3457 IE6 (and above) is still used by governments and banks in non-first world countries that can't afford to purchase new software solutions. Those machines are usually disconnected from the internet though.

[@apocalypticsword5524]

Damn Windows XP and Vista, that's a helluva throwback. I kinda miss those days.

[@Gummy_Pop.]

I'd say...

[@rektleet]

you can't tell me what to do with my favorite operating system, you fed!

[@JmKrokY]

Real

[@Tommy43040]

based.

[@Ramotttholl]

i've got better memories on MSDos sorry.

[@TomoEriGoto]

The fact there are weirdos who think this unironically is… frightful

[@bosyogurtlight]

​@@TomoEriGoto and public institutions lol

[@andreasjoannai6441]

It is extremely unlikely to get hacked if it is any other computer running on Windows XP. However, having an open-port, firewall-less, Separated IP address, and no ping filtration system on there is an open invitation for somebody to install a worm or something, and besides, it's a bad idea to do that on any Windows version for that matter. Merely having an internet connection on old versions of Windows is not usually enough to get insta-hacked, but giving the system UNFILTERED EXPOSURE to the internet is almost asking for it.

[@snintendog]

Linux MAC PC ANdroid. All of them are the same at that point Firewalls do so much just by Denying entry.

[@cubedmelons876]

Yeah, when Eric did his experiment, he deliberately opened up all the ports on his router. Most people aren't gonna do that.

[@MaxisRichtofen]

most would assume it's a trap

[@SamuelDoesThings2011]

EXACTLY. For example, do you want to use an Internet-enabled Windows XP VM? Or do you want to test Supermium on that old Windows XP PC you have in a corner? You are NOT going to get insta-hacked. Oh, and sorry to tell you, but there's a chance for Supermium to not work on that old Windows XP PC, especially if it was upgraded from a default Windows 9x or Me install.

[@randomchannel9331]

@@SamuelDoesThings2011 Supermium works on most XP computers honestly but the problem lies in the fact chromium is too cpu and ram hungry lol Mypal 68 is the better option for older hardware

[@AmazingLube]

A good chunk of the German railway system still runs on Windows 98 with programs on floppy disks.. xD

[@merhaba12he]

11 years from now, we will see connecting windows 10 to the internet videos

[@DirkPittNCC1701]

and still connecting xp to the internet because still half a percentage will use xp i doubt its gonna die ever

[@abhikdoesthings]

That makes me terrified

[@sigh-cosis]

7:46 "you should always keep everything up-to-date" Yeah except when Micrsoft tends to release updates that break drivers, open worse vulnerabilities, or flat out don't install and leave a bunch of error messages

[@BenState]

@@dunder5563 *an. Also, just stop the windows update service, delete the contents of Software Distribution folder. Restart the PC or the update service and try again. Pretty basic stuff.

[@Mac_Omegaly]

​@@dunder5563 this was my problem recently too. Then I got a friend to help me find a little helper. It's a program that removes the stuff you don't want from windows. "Windows optimizer" Still have to allow some junk, but ultimately it fixed the broken update and removed the advertising and other junk from the start menu.

[@joostvhts]

I'm switching to linux when they end W10

[@DrPonner]

​​@@dunder5563 fucking same. I think it's called KB something ending in a 444

[@ZugTheDragon]

>arch pfp Not like arch is any better in that regard lmfao

[@godot996]

I've been inside the control tower at Cleveland-Hopkins International Airport, and most of their computers still use Windows XP.

[@ClusterShart]

Y’all can’t hack my Power Macintosh 7100 via the internet. Good luck getting past the base 10 Ethernet, powerPC and classic Mac OS to find my playboy scans from the 90s.

[@ssokolow]

I'm envious. My Power Mac G4 Quicksilver can't run anything older than Mac OS 9.2.2 and System 7 is more nostalgic. One of these days...

[@belstar1128]

what about a terminal from the 1960s you can't hack something that has no cpu or ram

[@MadMattH]

You're just tempting them too much, sir!

[@elizabeth3280]

Now that is a solid honey pot! We'll played

[@Vlad9407Official]

@@BLAZEDBEATzz nah, pretty sure ClusterShart got more

[@MangoPanic]

That EOL date for Windows 10 is gonna be an actual issue 'cause there's still a LOT of systems that can't even update due to 11's requirements

[@progste]

Fun fact: all those systems can upgrade to linux!

[@MangoPanic]

@@progste Yes! But the average normie doesn't know wtf Linux is, let alone how to install it 😭

[@xonabyte]

@@MangoPanic I know people who don't know linux has a desktop😭

[@akl2k7]

It wouldn't surprise me if they have to extend it. It's Microsoft's fault for not making 11 easy to upgrade to.

[@The_Endless_Now]

​@@xonabyte Don't spread misinfo, Linux has no desktop 😱

[@smithyethan6543]

8:35 "Ooooo, that's not good" is the half funniest/scariest thing I've heard all day.

[@xenoturegaming198]

My grandad uses Windows XP just to play something called "After Dark Games" which is an old game pack and he specifically plays "Roof Rats" from those games and it's just a color matching game to eliminating parts of a building of the same colors. He refuses to upgrade solely because he can't play this one game.

[@gamrknight8060]

I wish I was half as based as him.

[@BenState]

Virtual machines exist.

[@a1goldenrunner]

I love that game

[@anush_agrawal]

​@@BenStategrandpa

[@xponen]

In VirtualBox 6, you can use Seamless mode to run Windows XP as a taskbar on your Windows 10/11 desktop. This allows you to launch applications from the XP taskbar, making them appear as if they are native applications running on your desktop.

[@bestgamting]

that windows 10 just ends in ONE year, is so crazy to imagine..

[@bricaaron3978]

When I build a new gaming PC this year (my _last_ gaming PC --- I can see the writing on the wall) it will run Windows 10. I can't even imagine how anyone could be foolish enough to touch Windows 11. And even the Windows 10 system is only going to be used for DX12 games --- I will continue to use my Windows 7 system for games from ~1998 - ~2020 and computing in general. I also want a Windows 98/XP dual-boot system for games that don't run on DOSBox or Windows 7.

[@capulcununteki]

It's not completely dead until Google ends Chrome's update support. The death of OSes begins with the end of browser update support.

[@dompurified]

@@bricaaron3978 at that point why not use linux alongside kvm, or any hypervisor really

[@KaitouKaiju]

​@@bricaaron3978Just use a virtual machine at that point

[@ToraSapphire]

@@capulcununteki​​⁠​⁠​⁠given the pattern of “bad” windows versions having application support killed off at or around the same time as the previous “good” version (i.e. XP and Vista; 7 and 8.x), I’m sure as long as Windows 11 is still relevant then Windows 10 won’t truly be dead any time soon.

[@Spartan536]

"Windows Vista is the best operating system to grace this world" - SomeOrdinaryGamers Both of my eyelids are twitching incessantly at this, your heresy demands exterminatus levels of repentance.

[@grek543210]

Thank you

[@plus_osu]

windows vista was great, it's just that it was too ahead of its time

[@grek543210]

@@plus_osu Vista sucked. Had more bluescreens in 2 years of Vista than every other OS before and after together

[@plus_osu]

@@grek543210 were you an early adopter or did you have those issues with SP2 as well?

[@grek543210]

@@plus_osu Ok, fair enough. Yeah I was an early adopter, SP2 was probably a lot better but I switched to Win7 shortly after and it didn't really stay in my memory for that short timespan I guess. The only bluescreen I can remember under Windows 7 was Skype killing the audio kernel when removing my external soundcard during a call 🤣

[@ZugTheDragon]

Please dont connect ANY OS directly to the internet... Everyone seems to miss the part where he connected it with NO router, NO firewall and then just like "wow guys look how unsafe windows xp is! Woe is me!"

[@TeenPerspektiva]

How does that even work, connecting without router... what do you plug into?

[@michamarkowski2204]

@@TeenPerspektiva any kind of modem (SIM, Dial-up, Fiber etc.).

[@TeenPerspektiva]

@@michamarkowski2204 ah right, fogot modems were a thing...

[@Gramini]

How about things like OpenWRT or FRITZ!OS? Those are designed specifically for that purpose.

[@severedlightning]

This!

[@TheGhostInTheWires]

Assert dominance and connect MS-DOS to the internet.

[@SUPERSMASHTV177O13]

What about all versions of basic

[@Ramotttholl]

wish i could but i lost most of the installation Floppy's i could only find 1 left.

[@ashtiboy]

but thats teachaly basc just linux is bacsly a moderzed version of a tpye of dos but its cuting edge and the whole intnet data bank servers that host alot of websites all have this. heck even mac os and ios got sonme linux bascly mixed in under the hood mxied with apples secrit comptuer code cider mixed in.

[@iner1_]

@@ashtiboy what? if you aren't sarsastic I got nothing to say...

[@tobias-von-berlin]

@@ashtiboy i read this and i drooled

[@mpoadmin2978]

cheers for figuring out snowden's whereabouts! this man deserves a medal

[@brianeych]

It's crazy that they're making Win10 EOL in one year when most the users are still using it. People know how bad Win11 is and there are restrictions unrelated to security that made their free upgrade impossible, which I think have workarounds now. Windows 10 and 11 are basically the same, 11 just has more restrictions to make sure that they can collect and send more personal/personalized data. My mother had a laptop that was only a few years old, she "upgraded" to 11 and within a few weeks her browsers would freeze or glitch out. All of her drivers were up to date and I'm pretty sure the computer didn't have any viruses, it was basically a Facebook machine which I personally don't want on any of my devices. I've seen the features available for Windows 11 and outside of my sizable Steam collection, I have little reason to stay in the infrastructure. Does anyone remember when Microsoft said Windows 10 would be the last OS, constantly forcing any computers connected to the internet to update? What features does their cursed successor offer to actually consider it an upgrade? A lot of people jumped at the opportunity to upgrade from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10 because it was a return to familiarity with new features and less restrictions but 10 to 11 is not.

[@snintendog]

Time to find a good Linux Distro... I recommend KDE environments just for insane aesthetics and it looking similar to the windows layout and Explorer Environment.

[@randomuser3481]

The Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC builds from 2021 are supported until between 2027 and 2032 depending on if it's the "Internet of Things" version or not, and those builds are incredibly easy to pirate, so I wouldn't be surprised if at least some people just move to those for a while

[@Eb0nut]

"What features does their cursed successor offer to actually consider it an upgrade?" Spyware, and it looks different. That's pretty much it. I'm still fucking pissed about all of the features I use daily on win 10 that they took away for no reason. Gross.

[@arphaksad01]

MS is ending W10 so they can spy on us using Copilot

[@Noobsaibot21]

​​@@randomuser3481 Yup. I did that in 2016 so that I wasn't hit with the edge browser (the original one). I figure by 2032, Linux will satisfy all my needs (even gaming) and I can leave windows forever

[@Bidenmytime]

Man XP was tha days ... back when computer games came in a huge box with a disk and a code 😅

[@helio68]

The good Ole days

[@badnetcode6228]

Reading the manual front to back on the way home as a kid allowing your imagination to take over and fill in the blanks the graphics couldn’t. Nostalgia hits hard.

[@GGGmod1]

if you played half life back in the day, or adjacent games that were on the source engine, you probably played on windows xp :p

[@DirkPittNCC1701]

ah yes the good old days where you owned the games you paid for

[@me0262]

As someone who keeps XP around for older video games, the OG Xbox Development Kit, and MiniDisc software. This is essential right here. Even a fully patched system will still be susceptible. Some of these systems (I've seen one running 2000), most of the time have no business being on the internet, or even connected to a network. They're completely closed off and it's all based on "why does it need to do that?"

[@zeke7100]

when i briefly worked at a metal milling company, they had just spent around 400k on a new milling machine, a new 2023 one, and it ran on windows xp.

[@ivanjakanov]

yea but you don't need to connect a CNC machine to the internet, and it does what they need it to do. so it's not surprising

[@bobmarley5551]

It works the best for that application, doesn’t need to be updated, doesn’t use a lot of memory, been around for so long it’s fully flushed out on the software side, and can be modified to fit most applications very easily. Most X-ray machines and cnc machines as well as diagnostic machines for mechanics are on XP.

[@nick14454]

Windows embedded is based on xp but still very popular for some industries

[@sleepyrasta420]

It's tried and tested software, it's industrial machinery not a PC, isn't for playing games on

[@DirkPittNCC1701]

why wouldnt they settle less than with perfection

[@shanonfrancis5071]

Muta's sudden reaction to seeing a Russian Institute for Nuclear research still using Win XP made me laugh so much XD

[@SteelyGlow]

In 2019 I've seen a dude playing doom on a Windows XP ATM. In case of the Russian INR I think it's just a honeypot trap, where a system is imitating a vulnerable OS to lure hackers into a network isolated from the actual IT infrastructure, where he leaves tons of traces making him easy to de-anonymize

[@hugh6649]

Sick haircut muta, lookin sharp! Haven’t been here in a while since the dell tech support days. ifykyk

[@starx2212]

r/windowsxp is going to be so mad 💀💀💀💀

[@MentalParadox]

Why would we? We've known all of this for years. It's common knowledge, it's only you dudebros that are apparently just discovering this

[@susstevedev-u5f]

As part of r/WindowsXP, were starting a cult against SOG

[@ssssnnnnzzzz]

nah they dont care they love xp regardless

[@Patata_the_first]

@@MentalParadox 🤓

[@Scooter227]

@@MentalParadox🤓

[@MrThegamer695]

Yep, Windows 10 here. I didn't update because I didn't want any programs to break. The Windows 11 rollout was very sudden and I heard a lot about programs breaking. Honestly it's BS that they're killing off Windows 10 so quickly. Many computers only a few years old run Windows 10 and might not be 'able' (according to Microsoft's standards" run Windows 11, effectively forcing those people to buy a new PC. So stupid.

[@raj18x]

imagine the amount of e-waste

[@zaki_fl]

for what it's worth: •microsoft released an official way to bypass the most strict of requirements (afaik removes cpu and downgrades tpm requirement from 2.0 to 1.2), but that comes along with effectively signing a waiver that really just covers their ass if they release something that breaks installations on officially unsupported systems •there's also community-made ways to bypass the requirements (the ones built into rufus seem to be best) but that also comes along with the risk of having microsoft release an update breaking things

[@thegreatestfallout1794]

I bought a gaming laptop that had Windows 11 installed on it. I had it for a week before the computer encrypted itself and told me to find the key inside the box. There was no key inside the box. Wiped it and threw ubuntu on it

[@michamarkowski2204]

Using W11 on my main laptop at home. It's either this or a VM for troubleshooting W11 issues. There are many things not functioning properly or at all when compared to W10. W11 is not production ready yet and I don't think it will be before W10's EoL.

[@ReifinDFanchon]

I tend to only update my Windows 10 to the latest whenever I reinstall my PC, that's the "safest" way to update W10 these days.

[@the98themperoroftheholybri33]

My laptop still has XP and I've never been hacked or had malware on it

[@Aaron-zu3xn]

it has malware it just can't detect it so it scans as clean

[@ugh_2729]

@@Aaron-zu3xn what are the signs of malware presence and how could you possibly remove it?

[@federicoricca2512]

​@@Aaron-zu3xnstraight up lie

[@danieldobbie5554]

I found my 2006 laptop tryed to start it up windows xp it blew up lol

[@ChimblyTheSlime]

​​@@ugh_2729your computer may run slower, the fans may become louder, loud fans could also mean you need to clean them, if your pc starts running hot, if your storage is abnormally filled. Now as for removal you can use something like Windows Defender or MalwareBytes you clean your pc

[@EricParker]

Shoutout from one of my favorite channels :). Love you muta. Currently on a plane, will watch the actual video later, just saw this in my feed when I opened the homepage. One thing to note, most computers these days (& VMs) are nat'ed, I connected this directly (2 ways) to the internet with it's own IP, which is waht leads to getting hacked quickly. The same trick can be used over a local network.

[@milktoast56]

omaygot it is him

[@capulcununteki]

How do you connect a PC directly to the internet without a router? What is the method for this?

[@SiStockbridge]

They want you to use Windows 11 so they can throw adverts at you, let's be real Muta.

[@Ceabrus74]

Corporations don't just shift suddenly into something anti-consumer. They dip their toe first and ease their way in. With each iteration of windows, we will have less convenience, less privacy, and less function.

[@talibong9518]

Any OS will be quickly compromised when you disable all security and open all ports. This is just dumb clickbait fear mongering.

[@hugoeliseu9750]

​@@Ceabrus74we had* that shit been hapening since vista ( i think its the reason most people consider xp to be best microsoft o.s.)

[@acheron16]

Man, sure sounds like shit for people who don't run the debloater

[@chibisayori20]

@cantin8697 there ads on windows 10? i never noticed them

[@Y2KNW]

I have an old 95 box that doesn't boot up anymore but it's got so many of my old games on it that sometimes I wish it would.

[@Sexyybluu]

just get it repaired?? You have money right?

[@lordnoob404]

8:36 "That's not good..." LMAOOOO

[@LorainPsycho]

I've got a Windows XP for my 2000s games. I would never dream of hooking it up to the Internet because i wouldn't want to risk any of the games randomly updating... Lookin at you Diablo 2!

[@michamarkowski2204]

Most XP-era software could be run without issues on Windows 10 (heck, I still use some 9x apps on my W11). Having said that I know some games not running correctly or at all on Windows versions newer than XP.

[@SmokeyWire56]

​@michamarkowski2204 I have no disc gta 3 vice and sanadreas with mods. They won't run on 10 I don't know why I'm not a code guy at all they run 1 out of 10 times I try but run every time on win7 and xp. I guess I could use a vm I tried so many things I think it's a windows update I'm missing or have.

[@the_red_gamer]

Compatibility mode?

[@DirkPittNCC1701]

@@michamarkowski2204 my cd copy of the secret of monkey island begs to differ compatilty mode does nothing and a lot of my other games i got on cds and dvds does not support it

[@musicsheep9816]

Windows 10 being shot in the head in 2025 is scary because microsoft recently announced a "feature" that constantly takes screenshots of your computer and sends them to people.

[@will89687]

A lot of older computers running Windows 10 don't have an upgrade path to Windows 11 because of their processors. Mind you, these are computers that are perfectly usable for everyday tasks. Many people are in for a rude awakening in October of 2025.

[@anonwilczek6044]

For ffff sake, even on un supported hardware can install W11, problem od, when someone is to lazy to do it

[@tenfourproductionsllc]

What will happen though is eventually Chrome and Firefox will discontinue support for Windows 10, and that's where the vulnerability lies.

[@circleinforthecube5170]

@@tenfourproductionsllc i wonder if they will do it this time, the pushback against 11 is already strong, its gonna be turned into a tidal wave of pushback eventually

[@LinusTechT1ps]

Shout out to Eric Parker, was indeed shocking to see how 15 minutes connected to the internet (although it was specifically directly connected to the internet in the open with no firewall) it already got infected, looking forward to test it myself.

[@stringsofdespair]

Its fake. I am a actual WindowsXP user. Never happend.

[@ArtieArchives]

​@@stringsofdespairExactly, just don't go on sketchy ass websites

[@silastithing6897]

Yes the whole thing was contrived. Mutahar should know this stuff

[@r.r.n8998]

​@@stringsofdespairYou use windows xp with no firewall or ips? Really?

[@LinusTechT1ps]

@@stringsofdespair I refuse to believe you actually use windows xp, without a firewall or antivirus.

[@lakerskid2013]

When you tried that AVG for the anti-virus, that’s something I’ve used with a couple different laptops that I’ve owned. That’s actually gotten a really good amount of free features on it you can use without paying for a subscription and it doesn’t take up very many resources like Norton does. There was a time when I was 17 being on my dad’s laptop, he couldn’t figure out what was going on with it and I installed AVG which it found a Trojan horse installed which at this time in July 2012 was whenever a bunch of computers got hit with malware around the world and once that got removed, his laptop was running better again.

[@MadnessRealm]

I'm probably going to have to consider switching over to Linux full time once W10 reaches end of life. I don't want to deal with ads in W11, that's just absurd. :/

[@hikawa09]

Just use windows 10 LTSC

[@KoJesko]

Theres literally so many things like O&O ShutUp10

[@Pasi123]

@@hikawa09 There isn't any guarantee that 3rd party programs would keep Win10 support years past the EOL of the regular Win10. I'm currently on Win10 IoT LTSC 2021 and don't have any plans to downgrade to Win11 so I do hope programs would support 10 for as long as possible

[@TheTravelingDemon]

I don't suggest moving to W11 either, but I have had it for a long time and never once got any sort of ad while using it. Again, don't suggest it. Linux all the way.

[@hikawa09]

@@TheTravelingDemon Cant' play multiplayer games or game pass on linux so is a no go for me at the moment.

[@Lord_Samael_de_Monasteriis]

Over 6 months ago I installed the 32-bit version of Windows XP onto a mini-laptop to use as a retro game emulator for my TV & to watch KZbin. Disabled all automatic updates (very important). It works fine, it even runs old PC games quite well. The most important thing is to never use it to log into ANY of your accounts online & never store sensitive data on it. Never had a single hacking attempt.

[@BenState]

Why disable updates?

[@ssokolow]

@@BenState Probably worried that one of the "security updates" will cause it to start double-checking their Windows Activation key against Microsoft's servers.

[@kornelobajdin5889]

​@@ssokolow Nah he would be fine. I also have a license remover that literally attaches a key to your profile. Worked on many accounts never had any issues for years. Free windows (windows 10 btw)

[@Lord_Samael_de_Monasteriis]

@@BenState it restricts the Operating System to it's default install files, preventing it from searching for updates from potentially malicious external sources when connected to the internet. Also the Windows XP default network settings essentially automatically permit external connections to the OS. Which is most likely the route hackers took to remote control that KZbinrs PC. The solution for that is simple; straight after installing XP (before connecting to the internet) disable all remote connection abilities 😆 Windows XP is still the fastest OS in 2024. Running it on real hardware... Makes me wonder why all other versions of windows have to operate like slugs. It is BS fast...

[@elizabeth3280]

​@@Lord_Samael_de_Monasteriisthis is simply anti xp propaganda 😂

[@jayzee9164]

another day learning something new. thank you Mutahar!

[@AndrewBlox09]

Well in the video he disabled the firewall. You can get hacked easily on Windows 10/11 by disabling the firewall as well....

[@snintendog]

finnally a smart human not falling for this fear mongering win 11 shiller.

[@DingoYabuki]

It's a pointless clickbait video.

[@madcat789]

Im watching this on XP. Fuck.

[@pinkdiamond1847]

Rip 😞

[@doggo_woo]

As long as you have a router in-between your PC and the Internet, you'll be safe... *probably*

[@bestgamting]

F

[@suzysmakeupcrafts2079]

Oop

[@Warp2090]

ur fine this guy is just fear mongering

[@DampusOnCampus]

I love how Mutahar is always almost manically enthusiastic in every intro.

[@corymorrison4488]

I will always remember a hospital I was working in a few years ago. Their brand new servers where controlled by a Commodore 64.

[@theplayer12312]

hey; if it ain't broke don't fix it

[@Warp2090]

Probably because the commodore 64 is far more reliable and stable than any modern one

[@Unknown_Genius]

@@Warp2090 and so much slower that it makes brand new servers absolutely pointless.

[@vintagemotorsalways1676]

@@Unknown_Genius a C64 has plenty of performance for monitoring, Even for multi headed terminal sessions (assuming you managed to configure them). Unless they are trying to use it for load balancing I don't see any problem.

[@Unknown_Genius]

@@vintagemotorsalways1676 you can rest assured that they used it for load balancing alongside every other task. because that's what any company/service always does if they still use it.

[@pookcs]

One of the computers at my school still runs XP for the software it uses to align cars suspensions, and I loved every second of using it.

[@baldsculptor]

funfact, most airports, train systems and nuclear power plants run on windows 3.1

[@ffwast]

We just need to get a leak of up to date military windows xp

[@whytho1690]

I could see the DoD getting on their rear so fast due to the security issues that would cause.

[@ffwast]

@@whytho1690 It's only an issue if microsoft hasn't delivered on the security updates the government paid for

[@whytho1690]

@@ffwast You misunderstand. The govt wouldn't want _anyone_ having what they have.

[@lpfan4491]

​@@whytho1690The security issues...of having an updated OS leak?

[@whytho1690]

@@lpfan4491 By those who'd like to find out what exploits they could find once they had the code, yes.

[@Maoujisan]

It's wild to imagine that in Brazil there are still a lot of Supermarkets and stores in general with a big influx of money payments, still using PCs with Windows XP. And, even if the US Military still uses it, it's a completely different situation than random national general supermarkets here...

[@yorzengaming]

Saw eric's video few days ago and it was cool that you explained your point of view on the topic. Nostalgia vibes..

[@timmy3822]

You know I miss the vibrant UI of XP. That Start bar and button are iconic and fill me with nostalgia, listening to music I pirated off Napster via Winamp while chatting to school friends on MSN Messenger playing games and stuff. Good times… who remembers that pinball game?? Space Cadet or something I think it was called?

[@mariotheundying]

Space Pinball?

[@NathanYellowStarProductions]

I wish i could port those programs to Windows 10 or Windows 11. Candy Crush on a Windows Computer feels NAHHHHH 💀💀💀💀

[@msrakhra]

⁠@WayneNathanielThePinkYellowRed you do know you can easily download the pinball game on windows 10/11 lol

[@NathanYellowStarProductions]

@@msrakhra Yes you can do this on Any Versions right now, i hope Microsoft doesn't patch it lol.

[@mike17gr]

I mean I'm kinda late since I spawned in 2005 but I remember playing pinball, chess titans a little solitaire and making graphs or paints on Excel

[@ChandravijayAgrawal]

good to see you have given credit to Eric for this idea

[@skyfifer5443]

Upgrading from windows 8 to windows 10 felt like a real upgrade. Windows 11 is a pig, it's UI is annoying and ugly, they made it harder to customize to my liking. When I'm using 11 I just wish I could be using 10 instead.

[@Eb0nut]

exactly, feels like a downgrade

[@DirkPittNCC1701]

same thing when a laptop of mine was damaged and for the time beeing i had to use 10 compared to my ususal personalized xp

[@Nordern]

Several factories and businesses i've worked at uses WinXP for machine controls and such, very common for things that just don't need an up to date machine to run ( but mostly the same system has been running it since new ) If someone plugged those kind of machines into the internet it could get interesting, really fast and potentially dangerous if like the one i worked with, buttons on a program controlled a 10x10 meter oven that you walked into occasionally between heats...

[@micromage6103]

I know I'm late to the party, but its wasn't just the military paying for extended support. Large businesses also did so as well. Having worked for a large hospital, a number of lab testing machines ran XP and the vendors said the software was unsupported and wouldn't be updated to work with a newer version of Windows. These are expensive medical testing machines. 2016/2017 was a mad dash to identify all the systems and put extra security in place on the network.

[@Gravarty]

I wouldn't even connect a Linux machine directly to the internet without a firewall and router, so this experiment was a bit odd. Yes, connecting outdated systems to the Internet is always a risk, but that risk was exaggerated by using Windows XP SP1, which was still heavily based on Windows 2000 code, rather than SP3, which had backported security features from Server 2003 and had its firewall enabled by default. That's why I even claim that Windows XP SP1-SP2 is not the same as the final version we had until 2014.

[@cjc363636]

Thanks, Muta. One thing that's scary to me is hackers searching for - not Win XP - but un-patched and vulnerable routers from ISPs.

[@I.____.....__...__]

Ugh! Yes! Or just routers in general. For some reason, router manufacturers release "new" routers every few months, even more often than friggin' auto manufacturers and Apple release "new" products. And they discontinue support for them within a year or two so that there are COUNTLESS routers out there that are eventually vulnerable and zero way to fix them other than getting a "new" one. A blatant case of actively-malicious planned-obsolescence. 😠

[@snintendog]

@@I.____.....__...__ Just buy a business class router they are cheaper and get CONSTANT updates+Good feature lik Tunneling and VPN setup network wide or VPN login to YOUR network. THEN attach a Wifi Router/AP of your choice between it. TP link makes a good few VPN router in that class and Some with 10gigabit Ethernet so bandwidth on your Local net is going to be blazing fast. Also Muta calling AV and Firewalls useless while shilling win 11 is Hilarious. This is just a case why you don't connect directly to your modem.

[@s0rx3l]

i actually saw a video on this topic a few years ago and yeah it was also hacked in minutes

[@aaron96244]

He disabled the Windows XP firewall and didn't go through a router like most of us do. Of course bots found holes in old software. You can still connect to the internet if you don't do those two things.

[@I.____.....__...__]

@spenderhunchback5430 Yes, but it's not "back in the day" now. The OP's point is Muta's video is specious for fearmongering that XP is 100% going to get infected no matter what just by being old when the video he showed was specifically set up to get infected by creating the optimal scenario to get infected. It's like taking a Porsche to the "bad part of town", leaving the doors open and engine running, and saying 'it's so easy to steal this car!".

[@oliver_twistor]

True. Muta said as much in the video. He had his XP virtual machine running for over two hours without anything happening.

[@RobloxianX]

Vista is still fine. Plus, the guy not only disabled the firewall but was also using IE6 AND Service Pack 1. Do this on Windows 10 or 11 and you will get the same result

[@the_red_gamer]

What do you mean I will get the same results on Windows 10 or 11 aren't the exploits operating system related even if you would somehow get Internet Explorer 6 on them they shouldn't get infected by using it

[@RobloxianX]

@@the_red_gamer Think of it like this, the house could be any age but if you leave the front door and all the windows open with all of your expensive objects right in view. it's the users fault and not the OS's

[@TheLobotomist-t1]

Missed a great opportunity to perform the same test right after this one, to show what would happen without a firewall. You should make a part 2

[@talibong9518]

The only reason this happened is because he connected with all ports open with no firewall or security software. Same thing would happen to Windows 11 if you disable your security measures and open all ports.

[@emanekafecaftoggaf6893]

Dunno if that's necessarily true, unless you're using SMBv1

[@dylives7667]

_"Support for Windows 10 will be over by October 2025. Update to Windows 11 immediately."_ But Muta, I tried updating and Microsoft straight up to me to F off with my 8 year old hardware. And, if the economy doesn't improve, I don't think I'll have enough to buy a new rig by then :(

[@dongct2504]

buy a new computer, that's it.

[@revertfellpapyrusfandeunde4380]

​@@dongct2504i think the guy from the comment already said something about the buying computer part at the end of the comment

[@TeenPerspektiva]

​@@dongct2504ah you must be one of them folks with a slow internet connection

[@Soulfin]

​@@dongct2504Is windows XP screwing you over? I can imagine so considering you can't scroll down to the end of the comment huh?

[@Bomberman66Hell]

​@dongct2504 regarded ginger

[@nakkistromberg3946]

I've been running Windows XP SP3 machine as a daily driver for two years now, and haven't got any issues with security. Connecting behind a well configured router of course, and not doing anything stupid on the web. With Supermium browser, most current websites will work flawlessly on XP. Why I do this? IDK LOL. However, I tried connecting a fully updated Windows 11 PC straight to the Internet without any firewalls or routers, and it was a matter of hours before someone took control of the machine, installed a bitcoin miner and some other shady processes. Didn't have to click any links or give my public IP to any IRC chats / Reddit. So the moral of the story being, don't connect ANY computer to the internet without a firewall. Even the simpliest NAT-firewall of the cheapest router can help a lot.

[@MentalParadox]

This is good to know. I'm getting into building retro PCs, and my current project is a Windows XP computer that I want to use for playing games from the 2000s. Next project is a Win95/Win98 computer for '90s games.

[@CyberSystemOverload]

Great video, I have the good fortune of travelling around the world every year and at some airports when the odd flight information screen takes a dump the Windows XP desktop appears lol.

[@mysticwind2016]

👍 Had an old netbook with XP connected to the net, instantly stopped that after this vid thanks for the heads up!

[@integer0verload948]

A lot of industrial equipment is win XP and Win CE because million dollar machines often get ran 10+ years. Those systems have very strong networks and don't require Internet access.

[@rover908]

Been second daily using Windows XP fully updated, patched and 3rd party patched for OVER 5 YEARS now still fully connected to the internet. Nothing wrong had happened. If anyone asks why am I doing it. Some guy was triggered on a discord server shouting at me for enjoying obsolete tech and I just wanted to show off

[@MassReflux]

I am tired of elitists badmouthing what is essentially an enthusiast community, an enthusiast community that has worked with loads of love and passion to push that OS to the absolute limit, which benefits oddballs stuck in a pickle.

[@Ash-bp9gj]

wow i'm sure you showed him

[@ellnic]

We in the British army use XP on some of our comms systems but the security updates still come. Every couple of months we get the new MOD update from BAE systems to update our Dets. So while windows don't officially support it, we are still getting security updates for our kit via 3rd party.

[@MonochromeWench]

With broadband internet rarely are home computers directly connected to the internet anymore but back in the days of dialup modems home computers were directly connected to the internet. Generally these days you only get computers directly connected to the internet with business internet access where the entire business network is directly connected to the internet without a NAT router. It is business users who have to worry about XP systems getting immediately compromised (that is why wannacry did so much damage, businesses had xp systems directly connected to the internet after EOL). Home users will need to reconfigure their network router to directly expose an XP system to the internet like configuring the XP system to be the firewall DMZ. As such Home users generally have nothing to worry about if they practice extra safe internet on their XP machines for what parts of the internet still work for them

[@Tscubii]

I miss my Windows XP PC. It's somewhere in the backyard weathered. :c It was given to me (with no Internet access) after my family got a Vista PC. I was content with 3D Pinball, Minesweeper, Solitaire, edutainment CDs, and listening to "Like Humans Do."

[@Peglegkickboxer]

I miss XP and win 7. The last good OS.

[@chantellethecool1]

Is that the name of the song that came with Windows xp?

[@Tscubii]

@@chantellethecool1 Yup! I believe there were a few more, too.

[@TheRealRuddRants]

Oh my goodness I used to listen to that song during my school years.

[@Laz3rCat95]

@@Peglegkickboxer Agreed

[@thebreakfastmenu]

Lol Taco Bell used Windows XP for our POS until this year.

[@tin2001]

We set up a separate network for a customer years ago for their XP based customer database system. They couldn't upgrade the software because the developer was no longer developing. It didn't run on Windows 7 or 8 (10 wasn't out yet). And the PCs it was used on didn't do anything else at all. So we uninstalled every browser, set the firewall up to block all traffic in and out of the local IP range, and put them on a physically separate network. A few months later they installed a fancy WiFi network, and that removed all temptation from staff wanting to use the PCs for internet - they could just use their phones.

[@gamingandanime9000]

I saw the Eric Video and then after a while your Video pop up! Stars were aligned for this one!

[@DingoYabuki]

They're both stupid clickbait videos where they disable the firewall and leave ports open to the internet, get hacked, and blame the OS.

[@KoraOSRS]

I live in a small village (UK) with a little corner shop type thing, their entire infrastructure runs off Windows XP. Sometimes if I’m lucky, when I go there first thing in the morning right as they open, I actually get to see the Windows XP boot screen on the customer-facing monitor which usually shows your item prices and total, I always get a kick out of seeing that, and also feel like volunteering to upgrade their damn PC which runs their entire family business!! 😂 But yeah it’s true folks, XP is in more places than you might think!

[@Soulfin]

They are probably doing it on purpose. XP doesn't use much memory to begin with considering it's old OS. In which case they probably wouldn't want your upgrade, and anyways why would you need to if you enjoy the bootup?

[@anniealexander9911]

UK universities still have PCs and laptops sat in research labs with XP installed, and connected to internet. When I left academia last year I had 5 laptops to hand back. One still had XP on. My old boss also said they had PCs with XP on, and one with 2000 on. I loved XP. Control Panel was magnificent. Windows defiantly peaked with XP. Win 2000's blue death screen gives me flashbacks. Hated it. I have an old netbook with XP on and a widescreen laptop with Vista (🤮). Not been switched on since 2017. Used them for bit torrent.

[@jm036]

Vista was fine bruh. Good even.

[@bartix698]

In 2019 while on university labs we were running a program that only worked on windows 95

[@Retrogamingmaverick]

I once tried and my grandparents had their internet held hostage for *5 HOURS*

[@orangenasa]

I can't even remember my IE on Windows XP ever running that fast. That's impressive

[@sombritafea]

Love the windows XP screen saver in the background xD

[@jmtradbr]

I know someone who still uses XP nowadays. She mostly uses to print emails. It's a Pentium 4 with 1gb of ram.

[@memitim171]

I always wondered who those "Please save the environment and don't print this email" messages were directed at, like who tf prints an email? Now I know. 🤣

[@SpottinPlanesForLife]

I literally just started watching this guy yesterday, and this video pops up on my recommended

[@washim-7867]

8:30 hold up, this is wild...

[@I.____.....__...__]

This isn't exactly news. Over 20 years ago, XP had a vulnerability that would cause it to get infected BEFORE IT FINISHED INSTALLING! During phase two of three of the installation, as soon as it had networking working, it would almost immediately get infected with the NACHI/Welchia worm, so by the time you finally booted XP for the first time, it was already infected. 🤦 This was one of the reasons that Microsoft went into panic-lockdown mode and had _everybody_ put _everything_ on pause and prioritize security until SP2 was released (which they not only provided as a free download, but actually mailed physical CDs of it for free to ensure that everybody got it). The same thing is currently happening with Windows 10/11 where it's so full of bugs, Sundar is making everybody focus on security (because apparently, they learned NOTHING last time 😒). 3:00 I don't think this is the NACHI worm since that's probably not circulating much anymore, and iirc, NACHI would make a fake svchost.exe file in windows/tftp/. It would actually install a patch to block the Blaster worm (yes, some malware will actually patch your system against other malware, there is no honor among thieves 😂). 3:45 KRS1? Step into my VM, das da sound of da KGB. 6:03 This is because pretty much all webservers now require SSL which in turn requires newer cryptographic algorithms than XP has. There was a patch that provided some ECC algos to old Windows versions, but not enough to actually allow XP to use the modern internet. 7:32 REALLY‽ There's "no" reason to not update? None at alllll? 🤨 🙄 Okay, get a pen, this will be a long list… 1) New versions require new hardware 2) New versions make changes that break things like software you need 3) New versions change the UI which can be INFURIATING, especially when they destroy habituated productivity 4) New versions are RIDDLED WITH BUGS… Windows 10/11 patches create MORE bugs than they fix 5) New versions are UGLY (all rounded corners should be subject to capital punishment!) 6) New versions are usually incompatible with old hardware/hardware vendors can't/won't release new drivers 7) New versions require a bunch of work to start over from scratch 8) New versions can be outright BROKEN (like the numerous updates that WIPED PEOPLE'S FILES) 9) New versions have 7:50 Um, no, they're really not. The market-share of old systems is tiny. Hackers are NOT "constantly" looking for XP systems. Why would they try to hack someone who is too poor to upgrade to a new gaming rig with Windows 11? To what end? The only thing they're looking for is maybe old ATMs and government and military systems that are still running old systems (like the nuclear silos which still use _8" floppies!_ ) but not randos. (Yes, some hackers are still glory-hackers who like to do it for sport instead of for profit or espionage, but those are less common these days.) In fact, generally speaking, using an old system is MORE secure than using the latest one because hackers are LESS likely to bother trying to find the few people still using an old system. Moreover, most of the old system's bugs have already been found, the low-hanging fruit has been found and patched, which means the hackers have to work even harder to find bugs, which means more effort for less reward. Conversely, every new patch for Win10/11 brings a slew of NEW vulnerabilities and NEW ZERO-DAYS to quickly find and exploit and sell. Hackers spend most of their time reverse-engineering every new patch for new bugs. 😒 12:26 Ross Scott doesn't expect any company to support video-games forever, just to design the games FROM THE START to be able to allow people to do it themselves once the company wants to abandon it. (But that's anathema to capitalism which does NOT want people to continue playing old games they already bought, they want people to stop playing those and buy the latest game, especially if the latest game is just a MTX-delivery-device. Windows is no different; why do you think MS is pulling the plug, even SECURITY patches on Windows 10 that is so ubiquitous?) 15:01 Pft! DOS! Just grab a packet-driver for a 3COM 3C509 NIC, shove that BNC cable in, set up a token-ring LAN, and get Arachne up and running (or Lynx if ya nasty). "Upgrades" are not. 😒

[@emanekafecaftoggaf6893]

Fr Windows 11 is ass

[@emperorarasaka]

Sundar? or Satya?

[@jonfromsyracuse]

Satya* Sundar is the Google Meiser

[@PiotrBarcz]

@@emanekafecaftoggaf6893 It's a cheap mac rip off.

[@worldquestioneer1533]

The vulnerabilities never cease. They seem to be endless. No matter how many patches are applied, there still remain many vulnerabilities discovered.

[@MancoThe]

So glad that you shouted out Eric Parker. I've watched his stuff for years, he's criminally underrated

[@Cenacataya]

I saw the exact same video and knew immediately what you were about to talk about