Ravel PAVANE for a dead PRINCESS - Analysis tutorial

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Sonata Secrets

Sonata Secrets

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@SonataSecrets
@SonataSecrets 3 жыл бұрын
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@davidstringer8711
@davidstringer8711 2 жыл бұрын
As a 71 yo who has been playing only 6 years, I want to let you know how much I am enjoying your brilliant theory analyses!! I learn so much and in such an interesting way. Well done!!
@neutral_puma845
@neutral_puma845 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. You should do more Ravel , you're brilliant with him!
@SonataSecrets
@SonataSecrets 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Puma! :)
@adriancohen9911
@adriancohen9911 4 жыл бұрын
Bravo! This is a great starting point for any amateur classical pianist looking to play this beautiful piece. Henrik does a great job on discussing the form and harmony, and he has some very helpful tips for technique and fingering. Although is 20 minutes, it moves along at a steady pace, and Henrik plays everything while he explains, so it's very engaging, and I felt that it was very worthwhile to watch the entire video. Henrik has some great insights on the emotional character of the piece and its history, and the sheet music overlay is very helpful also. Thanks for a great tutorial on this piece, Henrik!
@ciararespect4296
@ciararespect4296 Жыл бұрын
Where is the fingering??
@bobanderson3134
@bobanderson3134 4 жыл бұрын
Loved the analogy at the end about the registers, what a unique interpretation!
@SonataSecrets
@SonataSecrets 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it!
@colinspill9271
@colinspill9271 4 жыл бұрын
Love this piece, it's always nice to get deeper into analysing. Btw I noticed that Ravel and Debussy often write things on the sheet that cannot really be translated, it actually makes me glad to be french to understand things like "en élargissant" ; "d'une sonorité large" or in Debussy's Children corner "doux et un peu gauche"
@SonataSecrets
@SonataSecrets 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, Ravel and Debussy insist on writing everything in French and not the normal music Italian. I have only school French but that's helpful enough.
@ruthiebelle1
@ruthiebelle1 4 жыл бұрын
I found this just wanting to hear the Pavane. It is totally fascinating, and I don’t have a piano anymore. Who is this gentleman and marvelous musician? I absolutely loved his insights and manner of explanation. Great teacher.
@TheAlbiCollier
@TheAlbiCollier 5 ай бұрын
Such a mesmerising piece! Thank you for your explinations.
@PianistStefanBoetel
@PianistStefanBoetel 4 жыл бұрын
Looking for student's repertoire. This is a true gem, thank you, Henrik!
@SonataSecrets
@SonataSecrets 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! (although I would say this is still for quite advanced students)
@PianistStefanBoetel
@PianistStefanBoetel 4 жыл бұрын
@@SonataSecrets Yes, she plays currently La Cathedrale by Debussy. La Pavane would be a good sequel.
@SonataSecrets
@SonataSecrets 4 жыл бұрын
In that case definitely!
@tomarmstrong1281
@tomarmstrong1281 2 жыл бұрын
These videos with their insightful and highly professional presentations are each and every one as much a gem as the piece of music under examination.
@robertgainer2783
@robertgainer2783 Жыл бұрын
Very useful video. The candles were rather superfluous, but the musical content was excellent. Thank you!
@henryahlstrom896
@henryahlstrom896 Жыл бұрын
i am so glad I found this guidance for Ravel's Pavane. What is missing for me in this guidance is a bit more on how to use the pedal.
@chino_jap0nes
@chino_jap0nes 3 жыл бұрын
I learned some basic music theory a while back, so I can follow your analyses for the most part. I’ve been getting more and more into classical and your videos, among others, have really been opening my mind (really my ears) to form and the more intricate details of this music. Details the average listener would never consider. I really think these kinds of videos have a lot of potential to get people into classical music. it’d be great if some organization funded them, I’d say a city’s orchestra/music department or something but from the little bit I know most of them struggle to begin with. Maybe if a population of classical enthusiasts could be educated and developed then the funding party/ies could see some returns and invest even more but who knows. So in this case it would fall on us, the viewers. I can’t at the moment but I promise that when I can I’ll definitely contribute to y’all’s channels. Awesome video btw, I’ve only watched this and the gymnopedies 1 analyses but I have a lot more to watch. When you look at Ravel again please analyze Forlane from le tombeau de couperin, it’s absolutely beautiful and has a nightmarish twist near the end that just kills me!
@olivierherment1188
@olivierherment1188 Жыл бұрын
Thank You. I am not pianist but it's so benefit to watch your video
@mexa_t6534
@mexa_t6534 12 күн бұрын
I'm trying to learn this piece and it is absolutely kicking my butt across the atlantic ocean, curse these small hands. Absolutely lovely, though, and I love your analysis!
@benwinstanleymusic
@benwinstanleymusic 8 ай бұрын
Incredible video, thank you so much! One of my favourite pieces of music ever, it's so haunting and I always find myself coming back to it. You're a really wonderful teacher, and your love for the music really shines through. Have a great day :))
@SonataSecrets
@SonataSecrets 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much :)
@handznet
@handznet Жыл бұрын
This is just an insanely beautiful piece. Also when orchestrated
@vegetator
@vegetator 4 жыл бұрын
Hello from Korea I really appreciate this video Thanks
@GB-mi5he
@GB-mi5he 29 күн бұрын
You are brilliant the way you pay attention to detail in this piece
@hatchegg80
@hatchegg80 Жыл бұрын
thank you, i've never been so excited about learning a piece!
@phaserfull
@phaserfull Жыл бұрын
I always loved this music. . . .now better than before, thanks for your job.
@jarrodsio
@jarrodsio 9 ай бұрын
thank you for the excellent playing and explanation.
@marilynchapman2697
@marilynchapman2697 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely loved your tutorial. I am working on this piece - a long time favourite.
@dehrk9024
@dehrk9024 2 ай бұрын
beautiful peice & beautiful person explaining it
@jerrys_milk
@jerrys_milk 4 жыл бұрын
This is so great! I'm lucky that you posted this lovely analysis a week before I started learning this piece!!
@gnuzz
@gnuzz Жыл бұрын
Love the sound of your piano, jealous!
@alexwang9650
@alexwang9650 2 жыл бұрын
All of your videos are very informative. I like the history and non music parts a lot!
@tomphson94
@tomphson94 3 жыл бұрын
where were you this all time? great video and great piece of music. Thanks!
@luigivercotti6410
@luigivercotti6410 3 жыл бұрын
6:32 actually, half-diminished 7th (the one with the ø)
@emilerose1424
@emilerose1424 2 жыл бұрын
Beautifully done! Well and clearly explained. Keep it up!
@meestweeduizend8893
@meestweeduizend8893 10 ай бұрын
I know the video was uploaded 3 years ago, but does anyone know why there are crosses through the lowest notes of the right hand in the “reprenez le movement” part?
@thewordbtrue2461
@thewordbtrue2461 26 күн бұрын
Hello, I heard this in an audio story. This piece was very faintly played, but loud enough to ensnare me in its mysterious beauty. Quiet Please Radio tale called, Pavane (Pavanne).
@leonsolo01
@leonsolo01 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating
@jamesonrichards5105
@jamesonrichards5105 3 жыл бұрын
What is grief if not love preserving.
@mizukioyama7892
@mizukioyama7892 3 жыл бұрын
So wonderfully explained. Very helpful. I just started working on this piece a few weeks ago and am in love!
@nicholasbouloukos
@nicholasbouloukos 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! Wonderfully played and explained. I think your clear explanations of the chord movements and functions make it easier for a wider variety of players to relate to the tutorial. Great job
@irinatsernikova3043
@irinatsernikova3043 7 ай бұрын
Thank you! Very interesting
@JPVillalobos27
@JPVillalobos27 3 ай бұрын
Really great analysis. Thank you!
@mobinakhajehnezhad9237
@mobinakhajehnezhad9237 3 жыл бұрын
so wonderful and useful .... thanks for explaining it in the best way.
@gabrielrueda9085
@gabrielrueda9085 4 ай бұрын
grate work. thanks
@janetwitman
@janetwitman 2 жыл бұрын
I so enjoyed your presentation, Henrik!
@fionanogawa1730
@fionanogawa1730 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for such inspiring teaching
@tahabirben8649
@tahabirben8649 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing interpretation. Thank you
@shshsho28
@shshsho28 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing content! I love this🥺 Thank you for this great lesson
@jukeskei655
@jukeskei655 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis now its more clear beside those who are more confused From South Africa
@dehrk9024
@dehrk9024 2 ай бұрын
i just heard this on spotify, looked up the midi and played it, and now im the first time understanding that you can disect a peice like that and all these notes have theory and names... :O
@dehrk9024
@dehrk9024 2 ай бұрын
it is REALLY BEAUTIFUL indeed!
@tomarmstrong1281
@tomarmstrong1281 3 жыл бұрын
You are a very accomplished pianist. Your deep knowledge of the subject is fascinating, musicians and non-musicians alike.
@Ivan_1791
@Ivan_1791 4 жыл бұрын
Damn, this was very helpful because I will have to learn that piece for my piano test so I can enter in the Superior Conservatory.
@SonataSecrets
@SonataSecrets 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I wish you good luck with the test! (and suggest a lot of only right hand practice for the melody+chords sections ;)
@Ivan_1791
@Ivan_1791 4 жыл бұрын
@@SonataSecrets Thanks. :)
@LuliLulu
@LuliLulu 4 жыл бұрын
I love your channel Im learning a lot on my favourite pieces even though I am not from a musical background 😌 thank you
@SonataSecrets
@SonataSecrets 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I'm so happy to hear that! :)
@Dreamwalker44
@Dreamwalker44 4 жыл бұрын
I really dont know anything about playing music but your analysis videos about the music i like is really interesting to me.^^ (also the parts where you state similarities with him, Debussy and Satie here were just so correct in my opinion. I love these three composers so much ^_^)
@SonataSecrets
@SonataSecrets 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, it's my pleasure!
@pollytan6030
@pollytan6030 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Mr. Kilhamn. You are a wonderful teacher. Now I'll be able to appreciate this piece of music much, much more.
@gertzpalma
@gertzpalma Жыл бұрын
THANKS!
@morhywaden
@morhywaden 3 жыл бұрын
Dear Henrik, you indicate the redistribution of the dotted notes in the third appearance of the theme. i.e. played in a left hand chord. I also do that. I am not an accomplished pianist and find this composition technically challenging. In this section I resort to crossing my left hand to play the A, then right hand to play the F sharp and G . Two bars later I adopt the same method i.e. C with the left hand, A and G with R.H. This is probably wrong for reasons I am not musical enough to understand and I think it must disturb the melodic line. Thanks for all your tuition. Tony, U.K.
@Jbgoat
@Jbgoat 4 жыл бұрын
very interesting analysis !
@mattiascross1417
@mattiascross1417 4 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for this great video! Amazing how Ravel used Jazz before Jazz was invented
@SonataSecrets
@SonataSecrets 4 жыл бұрын
I realized when editing that it's called jazz harmony but not when I was recording... :p Yeah, he was early with it. He also wrote a "Blues" as the 2nd movement of his violin sonata, right in the middle of the styles.
@mattiascross1417
@mattiascross1417 4 жыл бұрын
@@SonataSecrets I'll have to learn it for piano! XD
@davidkettlewell829
@davidkettlewell829 3 жыл бұрын
I am a former classical vocalist, world level expert on some instruments, and currently studying to become a composer. Your videos are such a great help to me...I learn about structure of music, technique of play, and artistic presentation. Thank you so much for these videos. I did not attend music school...and you see, I learn from you.
@fisiolg
@fisiolg 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for these pedagogical insights about a piece that I have loved for a long time and want to master one day.
@SonataSecrets
@SonataSecrets 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I'm glad you like it :)
@paolovolante
@paolovolante 11 ай бұрын
Great! Thanks...
@hyun6369
@hyun6369 Жыл бұрын
thank you so much!!
@mariannegast4391
@mariannegast4391 4 жыл бұрын
great playing as well, very poised
@SonataSecrets
@SonataSecrets 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Marianne!
@kencarter6481
@kencarter6481 2 жыл бұрын
I can see your a jordan peterson fan. is that maps of meaning in the background? 2:50
@lm9091
@lm9091 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing analysis as Always! It would be awesome if you could do an analysis on his Miroir "Oiseaux tristes"
@SonataSecrets
@SonataSecrets 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lucas! I played Oiseaux tristes in my academy audition program back in the days but I haven't touched it since for some reason. It's a really cool, wierd piece...
@josephineford9886
@josephineford9886 3 жыл бұрын
I like the way you explain things very interesting, are you a professional musician?
@cylnx4174
@cylnx4174 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks for uploading :)
@SonataSecrets
@SonataSecrets 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Cylnx! :)
@jehe7253
@jehe7253 2 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain to me what he says at 13:20 to 13:35?
@MegaTafira
@MegaTafira 4 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@jonnierman3954
@jonnierman3954 4 жыл бұрын
So great!!!
@damoon57
@damoon57 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoy watching your videos ☀️💗
@SonataSecrets
@SonataSecrets 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them! :)
@damoon57
@damoon57 4 жыл бұрын
@@SonataSecrets do you have a video about Chopin etude op 10 no 1 !? About the harmony progression
@Hailey_Paige_1937
@Hailey_Paige_1937 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Ravel is my favorite composer. I’ve only heard this piece in its orchestral arrangement, so it was fantastic to listen to the solo piano arrangement finally! I loved your interpretation! Would you be willing to analyze.”Jeux D’eau” or one of the Movements from the ”Ma Mére l’Oye” Suite? I’d also love it if you did Debussy’s ”The Hills of Anacapri” or ”The Girl With Flaxen Hair.” ☺️
@SonataSecrets
@SonataSecrets 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Hailey! Yes, I didn't even mention the orchestra version that Ravel did later, it's like two different filters on the same music. You are extremely lucky, one of the Debussy pieces will come on Friday!
@jaeminko4286
@jaeminko4286 3 жыл бұрын
Hello! I love this piece, and as a beginner-intermediate-ish level I thought this piece would be a nice challenge for me to learn. However, I found it very hard to express the pianos and pianissimos throughout this piece - I sometimes rely on left pedal for doing that, but I really struggle voicing the "tres lointain" part. Suggestions?
@SonataSecrets
@SonataSecrets 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! It's actually a quite challenging piece, but mostly for when the theme returns for the 2nd and 3rd time. The "tres lointain" part has the challenge of voicing within the right hand as you correctly identify, and I can only say that I feel a strong imbalance in the hand when playing - very much in contact with the key and "fleshy" on the melody line and as lightly as possible on the chord notes. This type of technique comes with many years of practicing and getting more and more comfortable with different textures like this. It's very similar in Schubert's impromptu in G flat major too. It's not too hard to find the notes, but forming them is harder...
@jaeminko4286
@jaeminko4286 3 жыл бұрын
@@SonataSecrets Thanks! My teacher told me to play the melody part with my fingertips and the middle voice with "flat" fingers, but I guess that's still a challenge. Love this piece so much, but maybe it's a better idea for me to learn something else in the meantime. Thanks for the answer!
@gailastrologo9712
@gailastrologo9712 3 жыл бұрын
What can you say about the pitch,melody,harmony,and timbre of this beautiful master piece of Maurice Ravel?
@atmadeepmukherjee5550
@atmadeepmukherjee5550 3 жыл бұрын
Good evening sir. I am Atmadeep. I have a suggestion. Can you please do an analysis of all the pieces in Gaspard de la Nuit? I know it is very hard, but nothing is hard for you.
@SonataSecrets
@SonataSecrets 3 жыл бұрын
You are lucky with this one, I'm actually planning to do Ondine and Le Gibet very soon! But Scarbo is not in my repertoire unfortunately.
@caterscarrots3407
@caterscarrots3407 4 жыл бұрын
I've never heard this piece by Ravel. But it is a nice piece. The slow dance feel and countervoices reminds me of the Baroque Sarabande. Sarabande from Bach's French Suite in C minor: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4WulaecoJqdarM Sarabande from Bach's French Suite in D minor: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKXWY6CLa9qMpaM I know that some later composers such as Chopin were greatly influenced by Bach and the Baroque Period in general. I wonder if Ravel is also one of those who was greatly influenced by the Baroque Period.
@SonataSecrets
@SonataSecrets 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I suppose the Sarabande is somewhat similar to the Pavane. Ravel was definately inspired by the old masters and style, especially in Le Tombeau de Couperin - only movements in Baroque forms and dances (Prelude, Menuet, Fugue, Toccata, Riguadon)
@TheMotherOfBambi
@TheMotherOfBambi 3 жыл бұрын
Your piano sounds great! Well done on that audio, the microphones sound amazing. What mics do you use?
@SonataSecrets
@SonataSecrets 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! It's a pair of Oktava MK-012 closer to the piano, mixed with some auduo från a Zoom H6 a bit away.
@savo1599
@savo1599 4 жыл бұрын
So much appreciation ❤️🌹
@reynaldochua539
@reynaldochua539 4 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@ianstukenborg437
@ianstukenborg437 3 жыл бұрын
Well, thanks for this! So it's not that tough on piano? Lol..i just played through the Jack Marshall arrangement of it for solo guitar. That was about the most disturbingly difficult thing that I've ever done while sitting on my butt! Lol i can't imagine trying to get it up to ten without flaw...
@Corwin0974
@Corwin0974 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video...
@JonGreenMusic
@JonGreenMusic 4 жыл бұрын
I came here because I was befudled by the doubling of the same note in two hands. I noticed you crossed out those notes. What is the story behind those notes?
@SonataSecrets
@SonataSecrets 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, so the reason it can sometimes be the same note in both hands is if both hands follow a line that uses that note, and in order to show that that note is part of both lines, it can be written like that. However in practice it makes no sense to play the same note with two hands sowe may choose which one feels most comfortable or natural. That's what my crossings mean, that I chose the other hand :)
@JonGreenMusic
@JonGreenMusic 4 жыл бұрын
@@SonataSecrets thank you!
@romeoperrin7524
@romeoperrin7524 4 ай бұрын
A 6:45 it is false It is -7b5 not diminished 7
@Momentvm
@Momentvm 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Henrik, for such a brilliant analysis and interpretation. I love to learn from your videos. By the way, is it me, or this piece sounds like jazz?
@fallhaunt1952
@fallhaunt1952 3 жыл бұрын
it does! it used major 7th chords
@jeremy8473
@jeremy8473 2 жыл бұрын
Maurice Ravel both influenced jazz and was influenced by jazz himself!
@AbnormaalTsi
@AbnormaalTsi 4 жыл бұрын
it might be my imagination, but is your piano a steinsgraeber and sohnes? I have one, and it looks exactly like mine haha. By the way, this a piece I have always loved ever since I started playing the piano. Music has really enriched my life, and its weird to think that I only discovered the piano less than three years. I will come back to this video in the future, thanks as always Henrik
@SonataSecrets
@SonataSecrets 4 жыл бұрын
It's probably close but it's another old German: Rönisch. This piece was an early promise for me too (in my case 15-20 years ago...)
@AbnormaalTsi
@AbnormaalTsi 3 жыл бұрын
@@SonataSecrets I came back to this video dear Henrik. I have a summer recital soon where I will play a selection of some of my favorite pieces. I'll be playing Debusy's reverie, Grieg's Arietta & Notturno and Chopin's Valse minute and Valse no.3. But I just couldn't help but to maybe attempt learning this piece! What other dreamy pieces for the piano do you like Henrik?
@미그니
@미그니 2 жыл бұрын
17:57 I'm practicing, but this part is so hard that I'm stuck.
@jsswift87
@jsswift87 2 жыл бұрын
"Fermata so I can change the page"
@AnaPaula-np5rq
@AnaPaula-np5rq 4 жыл бұрын
Can you add subtitles in your videos to Portuguese, Spanish or German ?. Sorry for my ignorance, I'm a new follower on the channel.
@SonataSecrets
@SonataSecrets 4 жыл бұрын
Hmm I can look into it... it will be autotranslate in that case.
@AnaPaula-np5rq
@AnaPaula-np5rq 4 жыл бұрын
😮👏
@freddoliveira
@freddoliveira Жыл бұрын
...
@Kent6494
@Kent6494 Жыл бұрын
@pabloheredia4378
@pabloheredia4378 2 жыл бұрын
You're confusing D major and minor with G
@jackdolphy8965
@jackdolphy8965 2 күн бұрын
For sure it is a bit too easy to turn it into a Dead Pavane ….
@dehrk9024
@dehrk9024 2 ай бұрын
i love the useless stickfiguer xd
@mariedurand5474
@mariedurand5474 2 жыл бұрын
Il est un peu coincé ce type
@vaxx2007
@vaxx2007 7 ай бұрын
dude, what a shame to explain smth about this piece with no legato in melody. including intonation, delayed notes and all what makes it being so beautiful. you play it like showing to a child in 3rd year of a music school
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