What Sonic 4 Could’ve Been

[@kjbroadway9557]

Let’s talk about Sonic 4 if it was developed in the 90s!

[@espelhodasconstelacoes]

Ayo awesome content man, it's a cool hypothetical! God bless ya and Jesus loves ya! :D

[@SayfHafez]

I liked your thoughts on what Sonic 4 could've been if it was released in the 90's, man. You're the best!

[@kjbroadway9557]

Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you so much!

[@59rlmccormack]

Realistically, if that version of Sonic 4 had been made & got released in Japan, the game would’ve likely flopped since SatAM never aired in that region… and SoJ never acknowledged Sally Acorn (much).

[@kjbroadway9557]

Actually, I don't know about that because I could argue that the Sega Saturn was Sega's most successful console in Japan and you have a Sonic game that could be treated as somewhat of a reboot for the series until Adventure

[@SONIC1991-l1u]

You should make a what if Sonic Xtreme came out

[@kjbroadway9557]

I’m actually considering something like that for the Saturn’s 30th anniversary this November

[@SONIC1991-l1u]

@@kjbroadway9557 cool

[@ThePsychoguy]

It’s so tragic this didn’t happen, it would’ve introduced concepts from SatAM into the main Sonic series, which I think would have been drastically superior to what they ended up coming up with.

[@SussyAmogusmapper-qs1sm]

This is pretty interesting. I loved how it's morely themed on Sonic SatAM

[@kjbroadway9557]

Yeah. this video pretty much came from the idea of "What if Sonic 16 became the next mainline Sonic game which would be Sonic 4"? and the rest is history.

[@greenlight385]

@@kjbroadway9557 well this doesn't make sense because this is not a Japanese sonic game i remember there a cancelled sonic 4 that got turned into knuckles chaotix

[@Angry9guy]

Cool stuff

[@kjbroadway9557]

Thanks you!

[@jamesborlan2850]

It's honestly really refreshing to see a sonic 4 video predictions on if it was released in the 90s instead of 2010 Most Sonic 4 vids i see are just interchangeable reasons juat ro glorify sonic mania Honestly, i don't think Sonic 4 would be better off if it was released in the 90s Especially for these reasons Changes in management at sega, the failure of the sega saturn The genesis ending its run The first sonic dark age that ended with sonic adventure And dimishing returns I understand that most people are disappointed with the Sonic 4 that was made But in my opinion, i don't think a Sonic 4 would do any better if it was released in the 90s, especially if they recycle level ideas Still, this is a great video

[@kjbroadway9557]

Yeah, I agree that Sonic 4 releasing in the 90s would not be in the best spot, but it would be another "Sonic CD" essemtially. Thanks for watching!

[@daddad9978]

Realistically I Feel like the names think Sonic 4 is bit misunderstood since the sonic satam cartoon was basically the non-canon sonic show that was made at the time where the sonic series only have 3 characters ( the freedom fighters were based on the animal from the games) And I Think have it been released It should be the spin-off then the sequels to sonic 3 and should be called sonic the hedgehog the tv show games ( or sonic mars) it would be like if nintendo make super mario bros 4 but was actually the games based on the super mario bros super show instead of being the sequels

[@kjbroadway9557]

@@daddad9978 I feel like in context of the 90s where the franchise was in its heyday, calling a SatAM game “Sonic 4” make sense from marketing/sales viewpoint. What was considered canon was fair-game back then since both Sega of America and Japan necessarily didn’t care about what’s canon nowhere near as much as today.

[@Tromite]

I think Sonic 4 is very misunderstood. I think it didn't have entirely original zones because they were trying to make it feel more familiar for classic Sonic players. But I thought those zones had unique gimmicks that made of each of them memorable. I liked the sunset and night progressions in some zones. The game really feels like something that would have been released in the Saturn era, especially Episode 1, with its shiny, low poly look. I find this era very interesting as it was very experimental. Sonic 4 feels to me like a game released between Blast and SA1 as it has the homing attack, and Sonic's model looks kinda 'modern'. With this in mind, I think they weren't trying to exactly replicate classic Sonic gameplay 1-1, but evolve it, rather like a bridge between what we today consider classic and modern Sonic gameplay. And I think they succeeded. I thought Episode 1 was better than Sonic 1. Episode 2 was better than Sonic 2. Also, I think they made this an episodic release as it was originally mobile only, but also, it seems like they were trying to repeat how 3k was split into 2 games, especially when you like at the number of zones in each episode. So I think they were trying to make 3 episodes to form a complete package. I find it a shame that Episode 3 was never made as I would have preferred that over Mania, and I genuinely think Sonic 4 could have topped Sonic 3k, so it feels incomplete in a way. Ironically, despite the backlash, I think it's the closest to the hypothetical Sonic 4 as it actually felt more memorable than Mania and even Superstars. Episode 2 feels like an actual HD 2D Sonic game, and the backgrounds look really good. If it was actually made back in the Saturn era, I don't think it would have been that much different, just with more accurate physics and original stages, kinda like Sonic in Nights into Dreams maybe. I do wish it was more original, but overall, I enjoyed Sonic 4, more than Superstars, as it really felt like the NSMB series of Sonic, which also resused assets and stages, yet I enjoyed those games just as much. This is why the criticisms bother me. I dont think the homing attack chains are as mindless as some say, and even if you don't like them, you can chain jump through the enemies to preserve speed. I understand about the physics not being fun, but the rest I disagree with. I don't think Sonic 4 is a lazy or souless game. If an Episode 3 was made, I think it would have been one of, if not the best 2d Sonic game.

[@kjbroadway9557]

Wow, nice to know you really like Sonic 4. More power to you!

[@Yang_lmao]

neat

[@chazzthehedgehog5495]

Why not include Robotnik, Snively, Cluck, Scratch, Grounder, & Coconuts, all together inside of a robot mech as one of the bosses for this game concept? have one of the robots Robotnik use throughout Satam as Enemies like the Swatbots, Tech-bots, Surveillance Orbs, etc. or Minibosses like the Shredbot, Stealthbot, Ratbots, etc?

[@kjbroadway9557]

I was going off what STI plans for Sonic 16, but I can see Aosth characters making a cameo as common enemies in the levels!

[@RiverHasALiver]

Underrated.

[@kjbroadway9557]

Thank you!

[@coolgamersonicyes7196]

I like Sonic 4 ):

[@NiNj_indisguise]

Here before broadway is popular

[@kjbroadway9557]

I will remember that, thank you!

[@doctormodder]

SatAM acknowledged. Immediately worse than the Sonic 4 we got. I'm glad Archie Sonic and the western lore is gone for good. I hate Sonic Forces too. It tried so hard to be Sonic SatAM, and it failed even harder than DiC did. At least DiC had the excuse of the Sonic franchise being new back in 1993. I know SatAM/Archie has it's fans, but I'm not one of them. After all, why try and copy something that not everyone likes, Forces? Honestly the world would be better off if Sonic 4 (The one we know) never even happened.

[@megasonic364gaming6]

Me personally I think that episode 1 is kinda underrated sonic going through a few similar levels is fine to me because level design is original and they do something new with them and the Sonic 4 saga being episodic isn’t a bad thing either I see episode 1 as a sort of new beginning for Sonic as he has grown up to be modern sonic and the game is just a simple adventure to start things out while episode 2 things start getting more interesting with the death egg MK 2 and metal sonics return and the final 3rd episode being the finale that wraps up the classic series this is all just my line of thinking tho

[@kjbroadway9557]

Ay, more power to you!

[@Enigma_toons]

Sonic 4 is sonic mania

[@Angry9guy]

No Amy?

[@kjbroadway9557]

Amy would have been cool, but this was prior to her getting a hammer in 1996 and the game was strictly American-based so it’s unlikely she would have made it

[@Angry9guy]

@@kjbroadway9557 oh ok

[@greenlight385]

it a good idea but since satam is a spinnoff and it is not the Japanese canon so not so likely that sonic team made this type of sonic 4

[@kjbroadway9557]

@@greenlight385 Well, yeah, it wouldn’t be Sonic Team since they were occupied with NiGHTS. This Sonic 4 would only happen because of STI, the American developers of Sonic 2

[@greenlight385]

@@kjbroadway9557 then that wouldn't be called Sonic 4 it just well Sonic 4 in the American canon.

[@greenlight385]

@@kjbroadway9557 but it's a gret video of yours keep it up

[@DuskusCB]

Archie Sonic is non-canon, always has been and always will be.

[@Angry9guy]

Wanna make a sonic movie 3 wishlist?

[@kjbroadway9557]

Well, the movie is coming out in nearly 3 months and I’m going into it blind. So, probably not, but thanks for the consideration!

[@Angry9guy]

​@kjbroadway9557 I got a idea wanna do a collab?