Sonic & All-Star Racing Transformed - Retro Review

[@Frapskillar]

Thank you for the Retrospective. This Game really deserves more love. It feels So good to play

[@MrThunderwing]

Couldn't agree more!

[@Lttaylortt]

@@MrThunderwing on the part u were talking about the ps3 version going below 30 fps. The xbox 360 version was really good when u put it on the xbox one

[@naoufalmtioui8236]

Transformed is FUCKING INCREDIBLE i love this game so much more this game is way better than every mario kart

[@cesarinfashion1]

My favorite game without a doubt. Hope they keep making sequels for this game series. Long live sonic transformed ❤️

[@GeordiLaForgery]

The graphics still blow me away, runs great on my crappy pc to boot.

[@MrThunderwing]

They still blow me away too.

[@MrThunderwing]

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[@miikasuominen3845]

Just before I get further of the video, than a couple of minutes... This is the number one, of the "cart racer" - games, to me! The times on PC, with 3 screen eyefinity and pure 60fps action. My god I played hours upon hours on it! Disappointed on the latest one, though not bad either, for example on PS4 Pro (only machine I currently own it), it has slowdowns even on single player...

[@MrThunderwing]

I haven't tried the new one, but I do go into a bit of detail at the end of the video about how disappointed I was that Sumo decided to drop the All-Stars from it.

[@miikasuominen3845]

@@MrThunderwing Yes, I just finished the video about 15 minutes ago and funnily, it was almost exactly like what happened to me ;) I found Transformed much, much later and I first tried it on PC. And totally fell in love with it. Excellent graphics, gameplay and music! One of those games, that I played with my daughter. Then I tried it on 360 and could not play it with 30fps, not after buttery smooth PC gameplay. Later I tried the first one too, but even though it's ok, something is just missing there... And the new one, I think you pretty much got the main point on it... I really don't care about the story aspect of it and I would love the All-Star stuff, though that isn't the main thing that bothers me. There are still massive stutters and framedrops on certain points, on a single player side even on PS4 Pro (and I think they will not ever fix it). I might get it on PC, if it gets very cheap... But on the overall, it just isn't up to Transformed level...

[@Cafeman_2D]

Thanks for the show and all the footage! It was pretty long, it took 2 cups of coffee to watch the whoke thing! I feel the same way as you about all the points you made and your enjoyment of Transformed. I passed on Sonic Team Racing due to the bad reviews and backwards step cutting out the classic Sega properties. I may still pick it up on the cheap eventually though.

[@gazarnott]

I'd advise strongly to leave Sonic Team Racing well alone, it will only disappoint and taint your opinion on this otherwise awesome series. Just avoid getting it on PC as the Denuvo DRM will sadly cripple your gaming experience if the monotony of playing it doesn't get to you first! ;)

[@MrThunderwing]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@thealgerian3285]

Been playing this every night for the past week with my friends. There's no better game for a private multiplayer session.

[@siegfried9999]

My first game on a SEGA console was Sonic Adventure, it blow my mind away with the dreamcast technology behind.

[@superiorgamedude]

This is still my all time favorite racing game, with my favorite characters probably being Shadow and Reala.

[@lazaromartinez4097]

And it's available on PC, awesome! Time to clean the dust from my Driving Force wheel!!!

[@MrThunderwing]

Enjoy!

[@haaxxx9]

You also need a good flight stick as well! Try out a Logitech Extreme 3D Pro, it's cost about 40 USD with tax new.

[@MrThunderwing]

@@haaxxx9 Hey dude, myself and some other friends organised a bit of online Daytona USA yesterday. You were missed man!

[@haaxxx9]

@@MrThunderwing YESTERDAY?! I JUST MISSED IT?! FUCKILRUGVHBUISRGBIRSDBFGUISDVBUISDVBUUEIOSFGVBHIRUGVBUISRFGBVUIPSDBGVUIPSDBVUIPSEV. All jokes aside I was quite busy with my life, and during this pandemic is not getting any better. Hopefully by the end of summer I'll get myself a PS3. Also I got myself a DFGT racing wheel stand! Its not too bad really and it holds up decently well.

[@nflisrigged1395]

I got it in sale 4.99 This my favorite game sense Wii u !!! Wii u version I played in what 2012 ? Still one of the greatest experiences to date!

[@omegapointsingularity6504]

have been playing some outrun lately, and then found your videos comparing the different versions, then found this vid and decided to try out racing transformed, its really great.

[@MrThunderwing]

Excellent, glad you're enjoying it. It really is awesome.

[@Frapskillar]

You have to try out the PC Port it's really good. I never liked Sonic and Sega All Stars Racing as i played it on the wii but when i got the PC Port i enjoyed it a lot more. Man those games deserve more love

[@MrThunderwing]

Yup, I switch over to it about a third of the way through the video. 60fps man, that's what it's all about.

[@Speedkingfox0007]

Brilliant review mate. It really is a fantastic game and very underrated. 👍👍

[@MrThunderwing]

Thanks dude!

[@RevanSecura]

there's one thing that made playing Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing worth while and that's as soon as you completed the final Cup in Grand Prix mode you got treated with the song So Much More by Bentley Jones as the end credits song.

[@MrThunderwing]

That's interesting, I never realised there were end credits in the game. I never went through all of the GP, I'll have to look up the ending tomorrow. Edit: What am I talking about??? Of course I would've seen the end credits - I would have got to them before unlocking expert mode on the PS3. Edit 2: Just realised you're not talking about Tranformed. Herp Derp!

[@muffinV136]

Still play this game to this day

[@jodyjohnson265]

my friend actually has this game on the Wii u and I got to play it for the first time and I liked the little Sega references in the game when I got the Xbox one s and Microsoft announced that the game would be backwards compatible and in 2023 I finally got my own copy of the game it's worth a steal when it goes on sale

[@gazarnott]

Spoiling us with all these awesome videos Al me old mate! So great to hear your take on this absolutely fantastic game and so pleased to know you love it too! So sincerely wish that Sumo could have taken this games foundation and improved on it even further to repeat it's success rather than change their dev team head and churn out the shite that was 'Team Sonic Racing' instead, but the least said about that disaster of a game the better imho! Got any thoughts on other retro Sega related reviews? Oh and for the record too, it's not just you that is phlegmatic towards Sonic The Hedgehog! I feel the exact same way and only have positive memories of the original game on the Sega Mega Drive, the rest of the series I couldn't give two shits about! Hope you're good sir and looking forward to more content as always! Stay safe - Gaz :)

[@MrThunderwing]

Thanks dude, glad you liked the video (and the game). Team Sonic was such a missed opportunity. Maybe Sumo will see the error of their ways and release a new All-Star game in the future. Hope you're well too matey, take care!

[@dylansandoval9841]

Maybe late to this video but for anyone else looking to play this its available on the Xbox Series consoles at 60fps thanks to their fpsboost enhancement. Unfortunately it still runs at 720p

[@aldusric]

Nice video. Yes Sonic Racing Transformed is the best racing game for me. It is a Masterpiece

[@johanneshaukanes4531]

7:38 The only thing I can say is the vehicles are really cool and diverse.

[@InitialDale]

I wouldn't mind getting this again for PS3, but I'd have to go through all the hassle again of unlocking all characters and their console mods etc. And for Steam as well even, as that runs at 60fps and has more selection of characters but I think I need a more powerful laptop for steam (my previous laptop ran it well, unlike my recent one, but might try it again in future). PS, no offense to SEGA Lord X, I like watching his work on stuff like this, but you should also deserve just as much more views and appeciation on your review videos, just as much as he gets my mate, and he hasn't even done a review of this yet.

[@MrThunderwing]

Thanks mate, always appreciate the compliments! I like SLX'x videos myself, I think he's done very well for himself to build up such a big subscriber count and number of views in a relatively short space of time. It'd be great to get the same sort of views he does, but due to my real life work commitments it's harder to get the time to make these 'documentary' type videos for me. Unlocking the later characters and mods in Transformed is definitely a hassle, but with some pretty dedicated play can be done in a not too long space of time. Might be a good way to spend a bit of lockdown time ;) If you end up getting the PC game I can always share the save file I've got with you.

[@amirprog]

Awesome review. I also a big old sega fan. Your channel is one of my favs and deserve to be much popular. Greetings from Israel.

[@MrThunderwing]

Thanks dude, I appreciate the kind words!

[@TheRetroMartin]

Utterly love Transformed. I suck at it though. Barely managed 120 stars so I'm unlikely to get AGES 😭 I haven't got the first game yet. I really should do! I was similar with Team Sonic though - I wasn't as impressed. A wider Sega thing would've been a hundred times better.

[@MrThunderwing]

If you're playing on PC you could just pick up a save file like wot I did. If you're on console you need to hold on to those All Stars and use them at the end of a race to get past the Expert CPU. It's a pain in the arse, but it is do-able. I think linking all the later unlockable stuff to having to do challenges on the Expert setting is one area Sumo did drop the ball a bit here.

[@TheRetroMartin]

​@@MrThunderwingsadly I don't have room for a PC anymore and my laptop is garbage and is mostly for 2002ish games at best 😂

[@jakescartoons6045]

I wish I had bought this game instead of Team Sonic Racing. Don't get me wrong, I like the team-based gameplay of that game, but Sonic & All Stars Racing Transformed is clearly the much better game here. There's just more content here than what's in the newer entry in the series, especially with the inclusion of the Hornet from Daytona USA.

[@MrThunderwing]

Riiight???

[@silhouettoofaman2935]

Another thing about the computer drivers: I can almost guarantee that they flat-out cheat on A Class and beyond. I can't even count anymore how many times I'd been doninating the race, only to make one tiny mistake, and suddenly another racer zooms past you and proceeds to stay there for the rest of the race, despite me drifting and boosting like crazy. I was playing as a character with high speed and high boost (Vyse, if I remember correctly), and I got overtaken on the final stretch by freaking MeeMee - a character, mind you, with utterly miniscule speed and boost stats! How do you explain that?!

[@blakedmc1989RaveHD]

Team Sonic Racing also missed out on an opportunity of also including everything from Sonic R since it feels more like a Sonic R reboot

[@Lttaylortt]

Team sonic racing is disappointing. Less characters than transformed and less tracks too. I also didn't like characters in TSR

[@blakedmc1989RaveHD]

@@Lttaylortt yea i thought they was also gunna include Sonic R tracks but they did not which it's a ripoff at dat point

[@colonelsandwich641]

Never actually played this one, my bro had it on his Xbox 360 but he sold it along with his 360 quite a while ago. Maybe I should pick it up on Steam sometime

[@MrThunderwing]

You should Colonel you won't regret it.

[@Frapskillar]

And i have to agree with Metro that the game is blend i own Team Sonic Racing (thanks to a Steam Sale i got for 9.99€) i played it once bit never touched it again since i got it. It really feels generic. Handling is nice and all but the Sega All Stars Made the previous so much enjoyable i played a lot of Ryo, Beat, Team Fortress and Football Manager (his Stats are Not Bad) my target is to unlock ages

[@MrThunderwing]

Yeah, such a shame they decided to drop the all star part.

[@SaminPK]

Awesome video!! Yes absolutely bang on the limitless options the developers have to use the Sega IPs for their stages and vehicles. I would love see tribute to Sega Rally. 😍🥰 Another thing, how does the official PC release compare to the Arcade/TP version? Same or are there any subtle differences?

[@MrThunderwing]

I've never played the PC version of the first game, so I can't really compare it to the TP version. I've got it on Xbox 360 though and from what I can recall they're graphically identical, no difference in frame rate or anything. There's a few differences in presentation, as you'd expect between a home and arcade port.

[@IvaWing]

official PC release is very old, that is why it was focused to run on every old pc to give an opportunity to play best-competiting quality karting racing game of that time. That means that every other release for non-portable home console and an arcade had at least slightly better graphics. Maybe, just maybe, ps3 even having 30fps is top notch because of lighting model [consoles can show 30fps smoothly, which could be also multiplied with appropriate tv/monitor]

[@tesco64]

Well I played on psvita but the graphics are actually good for that system also I got every star today

[@clearlight808]

BEST GAME OF ALL TIME, racing anyway

[@Natsu25100]

0:16-0:19 I agree on that, Mr Thunderwing. 2020 is a total disaster because of the freaking pandemic.

[@houseoftheted637]

I have the Wii U version. Not played it for ages, inspired to try it again 😎

[@MrThunderwing]

Cool. Also, excellent name!

[@Sosuke0727]

Still never understood why Hatsume Miku isn't here. Wasn't she part of Sega back in 2012 ? 🤔 Or there's something I missing About. . .

[@MrThunderwing]

I don't think those games had any sort of mainstream Western following back in 2012. I still don't really get the appeal of them now, that auto-tune, vocoder style of vocal sounds like nails on a blackboard to me...

[@Sosuke0727]

@@MrThunderwing i understood what you meant. Her own songs aren't good enough for westerners however her remix songs are much better

[@sanicsanic6890]

my opinion that we didnt get allstars racing 3 is because it was a mandate by sega to be blue rat focused

[@johanneshaukanes4531]

The only thing I didn`t like is you can only play 3 tracks in speed mode. There is no speed mode option for quick race. So you have to play the 3 tracks in world tour.

[@MrThunderwing]

Hrrrm, been long enough since I last played the World Your I can't recall what 'speed mode' is.Was it like time attack?

[@johanneshaukanes4531]

@@MrThunderwing I my selfe can't remember what it's called. But you had no powerups. But I think there where more boosters on the track. If you played the multiplayer mode with mixed modes you could sometimes get that speed mode or what it was called. I hope im wrong about it not being in quick race.

[@senritsujumpsuit6021]

I remember picking the first game up at some back of town store then got the second pretty much grinded it but then a kid killed my save about 10 or so missions from getting AGES darn haha

[@MrThunderwing]

Eeeek. Is that kid still alive now...?

[@senritsujumpsuit6021]

@@MrThunderwing he fled just in time :D

[@acecarrera1]

Speaking of other SEGA IP, how about Outrunners on Outrun 2006 engine?

[@MrThunderwing]

Oooooh...noice.

[@deslardesslok]

1 YEAR LATE SQUAD WHERE YOU AT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[@AcidelCyqage]

Great game, but I hate how the car from outrun series is exclusive to nintendo consoles.

[@fazelavahundred]

I fuckin' love this game

[@Kapojos]

What is your opinion on the xbox series x version? Is it worth buying??

[@MrThunderwing]

No idea mate, my last Xbox was a 360. I think I've heard someone say that the newer Xbox consoles bump the frame rate up to 60fps, but don't quote me on that.

[@Kapojos]

​​@@MrThunderwingi bought the game 😊 its 60fps, but still a bitll low res... Still great though!! Thanks :)

[@Kapojos]

​@@MrThunderwingby the way, the graphics and the whole presentation in Team Sonic Racing is many steps down from Trandformed. Even though its on much newer hardware, the graphics are way less pretty and detailed. As if very little time and effort was put into the game. In transformed you really notice the effort and love that went into creating it.

[@ruddgrandprix-speedrunraci8515]

And for those who won during that I got the game or not. I got the PG version and I'm using the windows x and x 1 AKA Windows 10 and windows 11 I bought it off of steam. Right by the time there are discount for the Sega titles and it was an absolute steal right before getting my hands on the Nintendo switch in the holiday of 2018. If I want a Kart Racer fix that has Sonic and Sega characters. Then have to look elsewhere because there is none. I'm not going to look into a team Sonic racing. My Nintendo switch is completely different than the regular switch because it has a bundle of Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. And then the booster course pass during the lunch week of Chocobo Grand Prix despite getting it on the week of Saint Patty's Day however I postponed it to the month of April. And yes. It's almost like I'm in the fantasy zone if I wish there's ever be a switch Port of Sonic and All-Stars racing transformed.

[@spooky_electric]

It seems the only people who make videos about Sega racers on youtube are all British, and you all pronounce Richard Jacques' name the same way. Is it meant to be pronounced like the chap with the metal arms in Mortal Kombat, or like Cousteau, which is how I always read it in my head.

[@MrThunderwing]

Hmmm, good question. I'm just pronouncing it the way it appears to me phonetically, which I'm like 99% certain is the right way.

[@credit0880]

no dislikes, just the way i like it

[@MrThunderwing]

Me too!

[@nikoskabbadias]

the difficulty seriously compromises the fun. The expert mode ( which is not something to do after completion for fun, its needed to unlock stages) is absolutely brutal.

[@MrThunderwing]

Yes, I wasn't a big fan of that aspect, particularly, as I mentioned in the video, AGES was the last character to be unlocked, meaning I HAD to do some of those really hard Expert Challenges.

[@deslardesslok]

1:01a.m. 7/30/2021

[@levelhate1218]

Series S 60 fps $4 download fantastic game

[@tarkeke]

I'm a blowfish

[@charg1nmalaz0r51]

You should try things out lol you missed out of sonic 3 and how much better that was than the others and the original all stars which was better than transformed

[@MrThunderwing]

I _did_ play the original All Stars in the end, I talk about it at the end of the video

[@Electrostatic_Fusion]

How do i get it on android?

[@MrThunderwing]

No idea - Google Play Store? That's where people normally get Android games. Is this even available on Android?

[@Euro.Patriot]

Solid 3/10, hated this game. Still trying to 100% this game. The ai is so fucking cheap, the game is just a list of jobber characters like Vyse, Joe and Ulala (especially that pink haired skank, hate her and Pudding with passions) put into a racing game with fucking horrible mechanics, half of the characters struggle to turn so fuck this.

[@Euro.Patriot]

Got that part 3 minutes in with the nostalgia. Used to play Sonic Classic Collection on my DS, has Sonic 1, 2, 3 and Knuckles in highschool back when I wanted the Archie comics. Fucking loved those characters like Scourge.

[@MrThunderwing]

@@Euro.Patriot The AI has got some definite prick-ish qualities.

[@blakedmc1989RaveHD]

@@Euro.Patriot to be fair tha AI difficulty is a reference to Sega Touring Car Championship if anybody remembers how brutally difficult those AI was on Sega Touring Car Championship

[@danbrittain9530]

Team Sonic Racing is utter garbage, I don't know how they got it so wrong after making a game as good as Transformed. The music is good in it, but that's about all. By the way, the PC version of Transformed isn't limited to 1080p, it can do screen resolutions as high as your display can allow. We play it in 4K instead. :-)

[@MrThunderwing]

Yeah, I just don't get why Sumo decided to mess with the winning formula from the first 2 games. So disappointing.

[@danbrittain9530]

Transformed is pretty much my favourite kart racer (I also play as AGES), I even prefer it to Mario Kart 8. I would have much preferred it if Sumo had simply made more themed tracks as DLC instead of a completely new game which undid everything good about Transformed. :-)

[@MrThunderwing]

@@danbrittain9530 Yeah, a missed opportunity. I'd have loved a Daytona USA themed DLC track.