Sonic's Last Redeeming Quality....Got Ruined

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Mayorski

Mayorski

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Timestamps
Intro 00:00
Storytelling Through Levels 4:04
Jun Senoue and Crush 40 6:40
Storytelling Through Character Themes 8:04
Storytelling Through Leitmotifs 12:12
Sonic 06 Leitmotifs 18:00
What Is Sonic All About? 28:46
Conclusion 32:03
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Leitmotif in Sonic music theory video essay character study analysis sonic's theme his world endless possibilities reach for the star knight of the wind it doesn't matter, Sonic is eager to prove he has what it takes to be a true hero. His test comes when Dr. Robotnik returns, this time with a new partner, Knuckles, in search for an emerald that has the power to. Sonic teams up with his own sidekick, Tails, to find the it falls into the. From the filmmakers behind The Fast and the Furious and Deadpool, SONIC THE HEDGEHOG 2 stars James Marsden, Ben Schwartz as the voice of Sonic, Tika Sumpter, Schaff watches Sonic in multiple different universes and plot elements! Natasha Rothwell, Bernard Warren III, Adam Pally, and Jim Carrey returning, alongside new additions Shemar Moore, with Idris Elba as the voice of Knuckles, and Colleen O'Shaughnessey as the voice of Tails. Knuckle Down Featurette (2022 action/adventure / comedy Which Sonic games have the best animation? Which have the worst? What makes for good animation in a Sonic game to begin with? Join me on this retrospective journey through ALL of them and let's find out movie), starring James Marsden and Jim Carrey and directed by Jeff Fowler as reviewed by Charlie and chaomix SomecallmeJohnny Jackson Cybershell bickuribox12 and splashdash. Madness, Music Theory: Sonic Frontiers (No Spoilers)
Alex Yard & Knuckles Fastest trailer, 1 Million Percent Muscle Man, that footage of Sonic doing taxes! Knuckles The Echidna is a character that many Sonic Fans hold dearly, and for good reason. He was such an incredible character and the first of Sonic's rivals to have this level of Complexity about him. Unfortunately, it was (for some reason) Let's listen to one of Sonic's shortest and sweetest Most Underrated Soundtrack decided that this character should be cast aside, and turned into the comic relief for the series so that the Kids could laugh at him He's a hedgehog! He doesn't owe taxes! A retrospective on the music of Sonic, discussing the main series' evolution in sound, its impact, and its legacy. Classic Era Sonic 1, 2, 3&K, CD Green Eyes Era Sonic Adventure 1&2, Heroes, Shadow Modern Era Sonic 06, listen again, it's good. This is the music of Sonic Runners! Unleashed, Colors, Generations Conclusion 2022's Sonic the Hedgehog 2 continues the story of 2020's surprise hit Sonic the Hedgehog. There's a lot to like in the sequel, from in-form Jim Carrey to new characters like Knuckles and Tails. But just like in the first movie, the most amazing thing about Sonic 2 Sonic Frontiers titan Sage Story Plot Kronos Chaos Island Eggman
ALtheBoi, or AL the Boi to some, talks about some stuff in the vid, like Sonic, Eggman, Sonic vs Eggman, sonic unleashed opening intro, Sonic 3 & Knuckles, Sonic the hedgehog, Shadow the hedgehog, Knuckles the Echidna, Amy Rose, Sonic character, Sonic character study, Sonic video essay, Sonic video, sonic game, sonic lore, sonic story, sonic plot, Sonic Adventure, Sonic Adventure 2 Battle, Super Sonic, Sonic Unleashed, Sonic Colors, Kid Cudi - Stars In The Sky, Sonic Forces, Sonic Story, Tails, Miles Tails Prower, Sonic Frontiers, Sonic Frontiers Story, Amy in Sonic Frontiers, Sonic Prime, that Netflix show, Silver the hedgehog, Sonic the Hedgehog Movie 2 , peak fiction, filled with so much fan service, so based, omg, best video game movie adaptations of all time, so many of the basic Easter eggs, really smart, so based and red pilled, even Schaffrillas Productions likes it, The Cosmonaut Variety Hour and Chris Stuckmann and Vailskibum94 too, Arlo didn't tho, 24 Frames of Nick was confusing

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@Mayorski
@Mayorski Ай бұрын
One thing I will point out from reading you guys reactions is,I was too harsh on Frontiers. I still have my opinions about the overall look,mechanics and gameplay of that game but through seeing your comments I realised there were actually some scenes I missed that DID use music effectively to add to the story. A lot of the songs did feel kind of bland but rewatching scenes with Tails or Sage,I can admit I was wrong that there were some pretty cool scenes. Most people respectfully pointed this out and I appreciate that a lot❤. Still growing as a video essayist so the feedback is not going unnoticed!
@Mayorski
@Mayorski Ай бұрын
Also this is the first time since uploaded I’ve signed into my account,I almost lost this whole Yotube channel for various reasons but just thought I’d point that there was a chance this was the last time you’d ever hear for me lol
@Mayorski
@Mayorski Ай бұрын
ALSO,I’m pretty happy with the discourse I’m seeing in the comments,mostly everyone being respectful and giving their opinions without trying to directly attack anyone. Appreciate that a lot
@joeser6666
@joeser6666 Ай бұрын
I like your pfp by the way
@Mayorski
@Mayorski Ай бұрын
@@joeser6666 thank you sir!
@Eldoofus
@Eldoofus 27 күн бұрын
Looking closely now... yeah, that pfp IS way past cool.
@CoralCopperHead
@CoralCopperHead 29 күн бұрын
Wait, people dislike Frontiers? I guess Game Apologist is right once again: "We'll hate you if you hate Sonic, we'll hate you if you _like_ Sonic, _we'll hate you if you're _*_Sonic."_*
@peo9741
@peo9741 18 күн бұрын
frontiers is like an objectively bad game
@wingedflyingforce5139
@wingedflyingforce5139 18 күн бұрын
Eh, frontiers was doomed due to retcons, connections to forces, lost world, and sonic boom, pop-ins, etc. If it hadn't done the first 3 I mentioned, I would have bought it
@Rivr_Shen
@Rivr_Shen 16 күн бұрын
@@peo9741how so?
@CoolName1311
@CoolName1311 15 күн бұрын
the only really good part of frontiers was the music lets not lie to ourselves. the open world is barren, the gameplay feels pretty janky, the graphics are a far cry from games releasing around the same time, the enemies and story feel generic and unimaginative, so on so forth.
@xDCAxNexus
@xDCAxNexus 14 күн бұрын
I don't care about sonic storylines at all anymore, they aren't important, but the gameplay of Frontiers is an unfocused blend of open world and linear challenges (to the point where you have an ugly amalgamation of both features) and is fundamentally an action platformer that struggles to be either a competent platformer or a competent action game. This plus the unpatched bugs, mid music, unfocused art direction, etc. makes it a thoroughly unenjoyable experience. Sonic is basically dead to me at this point and the only thing I have to look forward to is SRB2
@ItsOver9000Productions
@ItsOver9000Productions Ай бұрын
You've given me a new perspective on Open Your Heart, holyshit. I didn't realize it was both a literal description and metaphor of events in the game in regards to Sonic and Chaos. brilliant. Crush 40 is are in my top 5 artists of all time because in addition to the rockin sound and singing, their lyrics can inspire and apply to so many situations in any ones life. Honestly, some of their entire albums could be Anthems in their own right. Great Work dude. Wish Sonic keeps that awesome aspect of itself.
@jaketylenol
@jaketylenol Ай бұрын
Wait…are you serious? I thought that was obvious
@ItsOver9000Productions
@ItsOver9000Productions Ай бұрын
@@jaketylenol not to me. I thought it was metaphorical but I didn't realize the song is literally describing the physical events of the situation.
@evdestroy5304
@evdestroy5304 Ай бұрын
​@ItsOver9000Productions The song is literally called "Open Your Heart." Same goes for Live and Learn.
@ItsOver9000Productions
@ItsOver9000Productions Ай бұрын
@@evdestroy5304 OKAY, I THOUGHT IT WAS A METAPHOR. Jesus Christ, I get it now.
@CleanMario
@CleanMario Ай бұрын
Your alive?
@diogodifrente4283
@diogodifrente4283 Ай бұрын
Sonic music litrally helped me with my anxiety, when I listened to his world I just got so exited and pumped I forgot what I wad anxious about. You hot the nail on the coffin with the cd ost description and wow your prespective on open your heart was cool, that last line "let their imagination run loose" was a very nice final touch.
@kao7143
@kao7143 Ай бұрын
i really wish people didnt assume those that like frontiers are because they're giving them smallest props for the past bad games, i like it because i just like it as a game also i thought frontiers had a great, memorable OST with a story to tell
@RangerW36
@RangerW36 Ай бұрын
Yeah this video sounds like it missed everything about Frontiers. He says it’s too safe, “un-Sonic”, no themes, no story, not mature. When everything about Frontiers is like the opposite of that? Frontiers is the most “Sonic” game we’ve had since Black Knight. It’s risky (in good and bad ways), themes of lost culture are *very* obvious, literally every character in the game except Sonic goes through a major arc that leaves them changed by the end of the game, and it’s honestly the most mature Sonic himself has ever acted. (Maybe a bit too mature imo, but still.) He says the normal themes of friendship and freedom aren’t woven into the music anymore, but if you look at the lyrics to Find Your Flame, I’m Here, or One Way Dream, you’ll see how untrue that is. I don’t understand people who love games like Unleashed, yet dislike Frontiers, because they are so incredibly similar. Listen to “Dear My Friend” from Unleashed, and “Dear Father” from Frontiers, and tell me how these games can’t be seen in the same light. Like yeah, I get not liking Cyberspace for nostalgia baiting, but that is literally 1% of this game. I have over 100 hours in Frontiers, and I have at max spent like 2 of those in Cyberspace. (You can technically skip ALL of Cyberspace if you don’t care about 100%-ing and just wanna grind Big’s fishing, which I think is pretty fun in-of-itself tbh.) It’s not a perfect game by any means, but it’s definitely good. Not some soulless Breath of The Wild clone, like some people make it out to be.
@joeser6666
@joeser6666 Ай бұрын
kao randomly materializing out of thin air when a youtuber has to say something about sonic frontiers
@mrhalfsaid1389
@mrhalfsaid1389 Ай бұрын
Same, like are you gonna tell me that UNDEFEATABLE, BREAK THROUGH IT ALL, FIND YOUR FLAME AND I'M HERE aren't story through music if open your heart and live and learn are? Just because a game has a different direction to the previous games DOESN'T MEAN that there aren't the same things from before, that's extremely disingenuous. I am not the biggest fan of frontiers because the gameplay is overly repetitive in a lot of areas and doesn't have that free flow of generations, unleashed and the classics, but I can tell that it's a lot better than some of the hold forward Sims we've gotten before. Just because a game isn't 100% what you want doesn't mean you can't appreciate what it did right (I mean really if this guy is saying he appreciated the story of '06, a story with a multitude of problems but doesn't appreciate either shadow '05 or frontiers despite those stories being similar in how they are problematic yet having a lot of good elements honestly makes this argument misguided)
@Dothos68
@Dothos68 Ай бұрын
Just went over to enjoy it, that’s it
@Ramble_79
@Ramble_79 Ай бұрын
frontiers fucking sucks imo
@andybilyak
@andybilyak Ай бұрын
To add on to the Sonic 06 section, Silver's theme also samples and uses Green Hilk from the very first sonic game as a backbone for the song. While it can be seen as a subtle nod to the original genesis game, I perceive it as a way to show how inexperienced and simple-minded silver starts his journey as, before growing into a confident hero in his own right.
@Akipoutark
@Akipoutark Ай бұрын
turns out the creator of the song didn't realise there was the greenhill leitmotif until people told him there was. so it was unintentional
@robertlupa8273
@robertlupa8273 Ай бұрын
@@Akipoutark _"Dreams of an Absolution was one of the few songs [Bentley] Jones sang where he was not directly involved with the production or arrangement."_ - Sonic Wiki Zone. Furthermore, the composer is listed as Mariko Nanba, not Jones. It was the _singer and writer_ who didn't notice the similarity between Dreams of an Absolution and Green Hill. That doesn't mean the _composer_ didn't intent it - in fact, it'd be a ridiculous (if amazing) coincidence if you were right.
@kage1573
@kage1573 Ай бұрын
I agree that Sonic music is always a strong point of the franchise and can be a deconstruction of the story and characters but I would also say that Frontiers has these elements as well without being safe such exploring a new gameplay style, having a more melancholy story that develops each character, showing Sonic's heroism and personality, having music tell a somber story of ancient beings while also having great boss fight music that has tells a story like Find Your Flame being about Sonic seeing the strength in Tails and wants him to be at his best.
@4125tech
@4125tech Ай бұрын
I'm not done watching the video yet, so I'll come back and change this if I feel differently afterwards, but I'm convinced Sonic fans just don't WANT to like new additions to the franchise. After 2006 it became popular to hate this franchise while romanticizing the past. If this guy's argument is that the music in Frontiers doesn't tell a story that addresses the bright qualities Sonic stories tend to highlight then I really don't see him selling me on this idea... because the musical story telling is one of the things I 100% loved about the game before I even started listening to other people's opinions on the game. Sonic fans go into games looking for things to be upset about. It's exhausting.
@JinteiModding
@JinteiModding Ай бұрын
Honestly the weirdest thing in Sonic 06 was the Zebrahead version of His World. Its insanely good but like, why? There was already a Crush 40/rock variant
@ItzInvidious
@ItzInvidious Ай бұрын
Hot take: zebrahead's version is better
@joeser6666
@joeser6666 Ай бұрын
@@ItzInvidious cold take
@miitroarts789
@miitroarts789 Ай бұрын
i think all 3 are good but in my headcanon each version was supposed to represent one of the three main hedgehogs sonic, silver and shadow
@sunkie7489
@sunkie7489 Ай бұрын
E3 Version of his world solos both the zebrahead version and the crush40 version
@elmemearana
@elmemearana Ай бұрын
​@@joeser6666 I mean, he's not exactly wrong.
@Frank-zb7zh
@Frank-zb7zh Ай бұрын
Wait, I don’t get it. Why is it that we hate on frontiers for being mid but we should regard flawed games like heroes, black knight and 06 as better just because of a preference of soundtrack? How is it frontiers is playing it safe if it introduce a new open world style gameplay? How is it that people don’t understand that the game was how it was because the team had no money?
@Orange_Swirl
@Orange_Swirl Ай бұрын
Here's my take. Sonic Frontiers is "safe" in the sense that the Cyberspace levels often have near-identical level geometry to previous Sonic games. Also, they often reuse themes from previous Sonic games, too. Also, the "new open-world gameplay" isn't even really that new to the industry, as it shares a lot of similiarities with Ubisoft's open world design philosophy, and Super Mario Odyssey, but sadly worse. The most original thing about it, is it has Sonic the Hedgehog's speed based gameplay in it, which changes the way you play in it. Also, it isn't even really open-world, as there's a distinct lack of interconnectivity between the islands, so it feels more like just very open levels (open zones, if you will), then anything else. I don't look down on Sonic Frontiers simply because it's mid. I look down on Sonic Frontiers because if you ask me, the transition to a more open level design format was not handled that well, with too many collectibles that don't really change gameplay that much, and end up breaking the pace of the game way too much if you try and collect them all. Tired of the unoriginality, which is why I didn't care for Cyberspace much. The game is also not that challenging. Also, didn't care for the OST much (though there are definitely bangers), but that’s more of a personal preference thing. I just really wanted "buttrock" instead lol The story and characters are fine, and they are indeed a step up from the Pontac and Graff era of Sonic games, however I noticed that Sonic's personality seemed a little bit more...toned down. Not much in terms of cockiness. It just seemed more like...generic good guy protag for kids most of the time. There, I explained it.
@RaulLopez-rq6wh
@RaulLopez-rq6wh Ай бұрын
it doesn't make sense, sometimes people just ramble for hours before realizing they aren't really saying anything
@JunDageki
@JunDageki Ай бұрын
Frontier being called mid is a mercy for that trash, you should be grateful.
@mayowaolowu231
@mayowaolowu231 Ай бұрын
@@Orange_Swirl you explained it great brother.
@King_Lejin
@King_Lejin Ай бұрын
@@Orange_Swirli mean to be fair cyberspace levels are literally levels from Sonic’s past. That’s literally what they’re supposed to be. It’s supposed to be familiar because Sonic fans complain when there’s no green hill zone but also complain when green hill zone comes back again 💀 you just can’t win with Sonic fans. While frontiers was severely flawed i thought it was one of the best Sonic games to come out since Mania and that’s not really saying much but it’s still good not great but a step in the right direction for how the fans have been reacting. But tbh idk what the fans want anymore i just know what i want. The fans want more remakes and remasters more than new things (which is weird because Sega sucks at remasters)
@Eldoofus
@Eldoofus 27 күн бұрын
When so many of the hardcore fans are obsessed over how Sonic controls in gameplay or how his worlds look in graphics, it's easy to forget some people, even if just a few, stick around mainly for the characters, the stories being told, and how they're told. This fanbase often chooses to agree in that Sonic's music being great is the norm, but it's hardly ever discussed what makes it so great, or why it's so memorable... and giving it some deeper thought, I reckon you're right about something, the stories they're trying to tell is what ties it all together. This fictional blue cartoon rat definitely knew how to make people feel real stuff, and without that, I wonder how many of us would care about this franchise currently... Even if it was just the music what you were aiming to dissect, I appreciate your devotion to explaining the meaning behind every song, and the narrative impact it had by proxy. This video feels like it doubles as a "why his music matters" and "why his story matters", so I can see myself coming back to this a couple of times, at least to refresh my memory of it if not also to explain my point with something better than words of my own... which I'll do regardless, but I digress.
@collectivesplonk
@collectivesplonk Ай бұрын
I feel like ragging on Frontiers for a music direction that fits with the more muted, melancholy tone they were clearly trying to hit at with the entire game, as appose to Superstars where most of it's music is just nails on a chalkboard, is a really missed opportunity. Frontiers may be playing it safe, but Superstars really led under the impression of "it's Classic Sonic so who gives a shit??" and they proceed to make the most ear-grating soundtrack ever composed for a Sonic game.
@chiron540
@chiron540 Ай бұрын
It's very clear you only listened to a few of the tracks from Superstars at most. Just because a few songs use the same instruments as Sonic 4 doesn't mean the whole soundtrack is bad. Also you're really calling Superstars the worst soundtrack when games like Sonic Eraser and Sonic Chronicles exist? And muted and melancholic doesn't fit a series known for being fast paced and energetic. I'll take even the worst music in Superstars over the dull music in Frontiers. It's at least memorable and fits the series better.
@squarethinkingdude
@squarethinkingdude Ай бұрын
@@chiron540 counterpoint: sonic 3&K lava reef act 2 and rusty ruin in the saturn alngside tidal tempest, both soundtracks are really great, and i love them, but sonic CAN fit with the slow paced music
@chiron540
@chiron540 Ай бұрын
@@squarethinkingdude Yeah, but those are at least memorable and fun tracks while most of Frontiers soundtrack (aside from the Cyberspace and boss themes) are just generic sad piano tracks that are trying too hard to sound like BOTW.
@danielmartin2116
@danielmartin2116 Ай бұрын
​@@chiron540...they're supposed to fit the melancholy vibe the game is giving off. It's one thing if you don't like the music, but to criticize the direction it was intended to go into...no. That gives me the feeling you missed the point
@chiron540
@chiron540 Ай бұрын
@@danielmartin2116 Why can't I criticize the direction it was going for? It doesn't fit the series. But even then, they could've at least made melancholic music that wasn't so boring and generic.
@supersonicsaga
@supersonicsaga Ай бұрын
Technically he talked in sonic CD but I know what you mean.
@Friendlyaminals
@Friendlyaminals Ай бұрын
Not technically. He literally spoke in the game. It’s just that apparently every video essay maker overlooks this for some reason.
@edmpunkfire7793
@edmpunkfire7793 Ай бұрын
So, one thing. I understand you were talking about the leitmotif of Elise's theme, but you forgot one thing. Iblis is unsealed when Elise cries or DIES. When the group get sent into the future, they find out that the world being like that happened because Elise died later on as Eggman's battleship exploded, happening 2 days after the festival of the sun Just wanted to point that out
@Mayorski
@Mayorski Ай бұрын
Thanks for pointing that out
@_anonymous_creature_
@_anonymous_creature_ Ай бұрын
The video having a whole segment dedicated to Sonic and the Black Knight just filled me with immense, uncontainable joy. SatBK is my ALL TIME FAVORITE GAME, and its soundtrack lives rent free in my head constantly. I am so happy that this video taught me more about my beloved favorite Sonic game as well as showing and appreciating the beauty in it all. Just as Sonic said, living live to the fullest in the time we've got is the way to go, and the music really encapsulates it in the best way possible. I'm happy this video explained the music so well.
@sourlab
@sourlab Ай бұрын
I wouldn't say best but its absolutely in the top 20
@Catfan0202
@Catfan0202 Ай бұрын
Fun fact in the og and og Mobile port for cd sonic had lines for getting a life and being idle for 3 minutes which gave a game over but was removed like the mj songs in origins
@DanielDapple
@DanielDapple Ай бұрын
HOOLY what a trip down memory lane. Thank you so much for going into the history behind not only the music, but the artists behind them and their background! I never really took the lyrics in songs like "Open Your Heart" into such consideration and in such detail, until this video. It's amazing listening to it with the new details about the fight with Sonic's perspective and what he thinks is the best option to stop Chaos for good. I'm genuinely impressed with the stylish, thematic transitions you did, and actually enjoying the games, their storytelling, and other positive attributes rather than the very specific gripes and oddities I've heard constantly online (which I never had issues with lol). From the couch coop video to this, I'm glad I subbed to you Mayorski. Gonna need to rewatch this one day just for how well crafted it is.
@Kookie_13_
@Kookie_13_ Ай бұрын
20:28 Ik this is a dumb thing to comment about(I am really enjoying this video) but shadow put the past behind him. He never gained his memory back, he may have bits of it but he said sayonara (in the Japanese version) shadow the hedgehog since he can be his own person instead. And all hail shadow is the theme of the full hero ending so it was always meant for this shadow
@HyperSonic1999orJTH
@HyperSonic1999orJTH Ай бұрын
Yeah, he literally threw away his past and it's hold over him, something the Shadow of SA2 and STH from the 10 possibilities couldn't do. Now that his mind is free, he acts on his own wishes and does what he believes is right. Just like Sonic, his heart is of pure good, but in Shadow's case originates from artificial and morally grey means.
@Kookie_13_
@Kookie_13_ Ай бұрын
@@HyperSonic1999orJTH sonic may not like his methods but has to accept it
@noxintheshatterverse
@noxintheshatterverse 27 күн бұрын
Dude i could watch your videos over time and time and again and try to just breathe in the nostalgia and callbacks i get and thanks to you i know that sonic songs have way deeper meaning than i previously thought thanks man!
@zack64616
@zack64616 Ай бұрын
I thought it was going to be about the new mania Port due to the thumbnail and the backlash it got when I first got tested but I was pleasantly surprised this was a great video and I enjoyed watching the whole thing!
@scarvestarr
@scarvestarr Ай бұрын
You are so right about the singing along to the music. I myself was playing Sonic unleashed recently and couldn't help but sing along to the music during the recording. The music of Sonic is the best and it's so inviting. I don't know what to say, the music just invites you to get up, sing along and maybe play along with sonic.
@sheric3602
@sheric3602 Ай бұрын
Just listen back to the pass sonic games music just make me cry with joy. I’m happy to be a sonic fan.
@Aktedya1-jt7vw
@Aktedya1-jt7vw Ай бұрын
Can i just say, i'm SO glad you made the distinction between Colors and the games past it. Yes. Colors has a less serious tone. Yes, it has a problem with the quality of it's jokes. However, i still feel that Adventurous Sonic spirit from the game, and the character. Heck, Reach For The Stars pretty much has the same messsge as It doesn't matter. Living life your own way and not giving up.
@isdaboss2880
@isdaboss2880 5 күн бұрын
My favorite leitmotif is Eggman's theme in Sonic 06 and Unleashed. I wish you brought it up, but that isn't stopping this from being a good video.
@Unk0wn_stalk3r
@Unk0wn_stalk3r Ай бұрын
Gotta say man, the bad future of palm tree panic surely is a fucking banger, but yeah the stardust speedway and all the bad futures sound just as manacingly
@Greezamer
@Greezamer 27 күн бұрын
15:50 I got chills like never before
@Mayorski
@Mayorski 27 күн бұрын
me too,one of my favorite parts to edit
@NOODLE9231
@NOODLE9231 Күн бұрын
sonic is my absolute FAVORITE franchise. not mainly because of the games, but because of sonics world view (which is what ive based my personality on from a young age) but more importantly, the music. this truly is a great series
@Defox.
@Defox. Ай бұрын
Your video literally describes everything that I value most about this franchise and why it hooked me so much. I have nothing to add, everything is said to the point. Phenomenal job!
@TheFrostedfirefly
@TheFrostedfirefly Ай бұрын
Fantastic video! I expected something more along the lines of an aimless rant, but you've put so much work and research into the themes and musicians you talk about that it was far more informative than I bargained for. Here's to Sonic music! Here's to using the messages in those songs to move forward with out futures!
@alibeknorbekov5963
@alibeknorbekov5963 27 күн бұрын
Nice video Really entertaining And informative 👍✨
@AnimatorMario
@AnimatorMario Ай бұрын
Frontiers had good narrative Music to me but it just felt like a lite version of adventure and 06 like the character specific themes in final horizon kinda reminds me of the Sonic adventure character themes a bit but thats just me tho
@Cameron_Levine
@Cameron_Levine Ай бұрын
I have to disagree with your points on frontiers. While yes it is less than the others, the story is way more serious as the world shows. It’s barren and the music reflects that in the somber tone most of the ost has. When you are in a boss battle with the titans, the music reflects how it feels to Sonic being super. Take Find Your Flame for instance. The lyrics show he is fighting for his friends and doing all of this for them. Just because the music isn’t all in your face most of the time doesn’t mean it doesn’t have a story to tell.
@sourlab
@sourlab Ай бұрын
Plus if im right ... I think he even mentioned the fact that the music's getting less popular?? UNDEFEATABLE HAVE 7 MILLION VIEWS
@Mayorski
@Mayorski Ай бұрын
Yeah you guys have shown me I was wrong with my take on the music overall. I’m not in the love the soundtrack but it does have some hidden gems I failed to mentioned
@mikagesama1990
@mikagesama1990 Ай бұрын
This video fleshed out my entire school career, explained the dual essence of my admiration and love for Sonic, and put words to my disappointment in recent Sonic games all in one. Thank you so much for this video, and great work. Here, have a like and +1 sub.
@user-ii5fs3qe5l
@user-ii5fs3qe5l Ай бұрын
Dude this is an amazing video. I mean seriously, why isn’t this more popular? Honestly keep doing what you’re doing cuz it’s amazing. Never a dull moment in the video. Keep it up!🎉❤
@GiovanniKody100
@GiovanniKody100 Ай бұрын
Because it’s always more popular.
@lipika2841
@lipika2841 Ай бұрын
Well it's cuz you arrived here way before the video blows up. Just give it some time & it'll happen (I hope).
@saadiq4481
@saadiq4481 21 күн бұрын
This video was genuinely phenomenal. I love this video thank you
@MastaGambit
@MastaGambit 17 күн бұрын
The movies are doing completely different things, to satisfy a somewhat-different audience.
@Ikarusu
@Ikarusu Ай бұрын
The first seconds of the video got me burst out laughing, i think the war between youtubers and sonic is the ultimate combat of the ages.
@namegoeshere9388
@namegoeshere9388 19 күн бұрын
Fire vid man, I usually don’t comment but this was great
@PaulFellourisStrongman
@PaulFellourisStrongman Ай бұрын
I do want to add that the 06 shadow does not care about Maria anymore. If you see the ending of shadow the hedgehog it’s very clear he hates his past and wants to no longer associate with it.
@ShadwSonic
@ShadwSonic Ай бұрын
"We didn't see much of an inter-game identity being built up during the Adventure Era." I kind of disagree? Sonic's "theme" from SA1 was used when he first appears in SA2, and more importantly? The genre of music that Crush 40 brought became the connective thread _in and of itself._
@yungzohan1608
@yungzohan1608 Ай бұрын
You just gave me a new reason to love sonic soundtracks. Incredible video
@ivth3058
@ivth3058 6 күн бұрын
hey i really enjoyed the video. i'm just so glad you get it. thank you.
@carnivoreteacher8571
@carnivoreteacher8571 27 күн бұрын
I’m just imagining calibur sonic in super with the armour slicing at even faster speeds as he is now bestowed the title of knight of the wind
@Yipper64
@Yipper64 Ай бұрын
These kinds of videos tell me how to use music once I have the skill... But im still lost on how to make it to begin with. Leitmotifs, punctuate emotions, all that, I got it, but I *cant* do that if I cant write the music to begin with.
@Mayorski
@Mayorski Ай бұрын
I ain’t no musician but no one ever makes amazing detailed thing at their craft starting off. Gotta be bad at something before you become kinda good
@RDsonicfan17
@RDsonicfan17 14 күн бұрын
MAN THIS IS WHY I CREATED A TWITTER ACCOUNT, THIS IS WHY I HAVE BEEN BEARING BARE BALLS TWITTER BOTS. I LOVE WHEN SONIC FANS ARE JUST RIGHT!!! This was a really nice trip and a change of pace from "Nuh uh, sonck effing bad, bad gameplay, bad boss fights, 15 y/o mechanics." I really got into the vid thinking "Yeah, yeah, sonic is already ruined, all everyone can do is start a new leaf", but thank you, thank you and the rest of the (really competent) sonic community all around the world fighting day by day for a future where sonic is cool again, and even cooler than ever. Maybe sonic won't reborn at all and will be stuck on the mediocrity but sonic devs are really listening now. The future is looking bittersweet for this blue boy. I'll be keeping an eye out every now and then for this community and franchise, thank you again for creating this awesome vid dude, I'll return back to you and this forever now.
@justanegg8478
@justanegg8478 25 күн бұрын
I agree with everything that was said here, but I feel that frontiers was 100 times more than a “small step in the right direction.” Brand wise, character wise, and even on the music front. At the end of the day, it even came close to being game of the year. I personally love it, because it feels like I got what I loved about Sonic back up and running again.
@aetherwarrior4640
@aetherwarrior4640 Ай бұрын
Sega should make a mario maker esque game that can implement 2D and 3D. They have enough assets
@True_Unofficial
@True_Unofficial Күн бұрын
Huh i thought the bossfights music were a conversation between Sonic and the ancients controlling the titans
@darlapauls7329
@darlapauls7329 8 күн бұрын
this video is getting me to cry
@TehJellyLord
@TehJellyLord 17 күн бұрын
“Why did he cook so much?!” *plays a song he didn’t make*
@JustinW332
@JustinW332 Ай бұрын
Endless possibility is probably my favorite theme song in the series. It encapsulates everything Sonic stands for. It also made me hopeful for the future of the series after unleashed. Sadly I was disappointed on that front. But I've since moved on from Sonic. Well the games anyway. But I will say that while I like the films, I wish they would've incorporated more Sonic music in the soundtrack.
@redvizion
@redvizion Ай бұрын
Dude, I love your videos 😂 Interesting overlooked topics, great jokes and transitions, it's just good fun. 😎 Good work dude 👍
@its_azdo3154
@its_azdo3154 Ай бұрын
amazing video 👏👏 keep up the great work!
@UestGploads
@UestGploads Ай бұрын
33:26 this part hits hard
@superstarwarrior2933
@superstarwarrior2933 19 күн бұрын
Too safe... My goodness your so right!
@fvndz
@fvndz 29 күн бұрын
will forever be the biggest sonic fan fr
@Axxidous
@Axxidous Ай бұрын
lol Imagine if Sonic Unleashed Sonic were the same Sonic as Prime Sonic knowing that Cubot already exists in Prime.
@crossoverworlds2678
@crossoverworlds2678 19 күн бұрын
As my first official Sonic game, I really love Frontiers' story and the music. Sure, all the crap they put everywhere like rails in the sky's is probably the most jarring bit but otherwise I only encountered a single bug or two and that was it. I like Sage as a character. I like how Tails, Knuckles, and Amy are characterized and how they're determined to go their own ways to find themselves, and I like how Sonic lets them go and is proud of them for doing so, even if it means letting go of people he's been with for YEARS! And yet he still keeps that cocky smile on his face and keeps going. No matter what anybody says, he's still a role model to me and still one of my main inspirations for art. He's staying up there.
@ishaan6621
@ishaan6621 Ай бұрын
Come on bro this video was great, its just astonishing that it hasn't blown up already. One thing that can improve in this video is the audio quality of your voice, sometimes I just don't know what your saying, and if I rewind its still not understandable.
@mddavids8778
@mddavids8778 21 күн бұрын
I think this video single handling reminded me how understand 06s story is Outside of some..."questionable liberties" the characters and villains feel so fleshed out If only we could see its full potential 😔
@deedee3554
@deedee3554 Ай бұрын
I took my boyfriend to sonic symphony. He knows nothing about sonic other then the 1991 sonic. He loved it!!! That being said, the music is fire 🔥
@NamelessCrusad3r
@NamelessCrusad3r 13 күн бұрын
For some reason team dark’s theme from heroes makes me think of some other song, but I don’t remember the name
@johnnetterville8514
@johnnetterville8514 20 күн бұрын
"stardust speedway bad future" proceeds to use good future
@purpleh_123
@purpleh_123 Ай бұрын
1:28 sonic the hedgehog 1-3 4:05 sonic cd 6:50 sonic adventure + 2 10:13 sonic heroes 12:24 sonic and the black knight 17:54 sonic 06
@mayowaolowu231
@mayowaolowu231 Ай бұрын
you are a king
@shanejohnson1606
@shanejohnson1606 Ай бұрын
I have zero music knowledge or talent whatsoever, but being a fan or Progressive Rock/Metal helped me develop my "Musician's Ear" to what it is today. And even though i haven't played every Sonic game out there, (Some I never will touch period. ) I will always appreciate the risk taking, adventurous, and experimental side of the music aspect, and someday I hope to learn some of the Adventure Era songs on Rocksmith. Now as far as the meta era side of the music, I personally want nothing to do with because of the games they're associated with. Sure there's banger here and a jingle there, but it feels like the music side is playing it safe too by making the song just primarily whimsical as if it were a Disney movie or trying to appeal to Nintendo fans like the games they were built for. And I'm sorry to anyone who gets offended, but not even Forces' soundtrack could save that trainwreck. In fact, it's just as forgettable as the game itself. And then there's Frontiers... I will say that soundtrack along the Final Horizon soundtrack is the most diverse amount of music put into a Sonic game ever. (Kronos Islands' songs have been clutch along with the Music Box Version of Bury The Light from DMC5 to help my 1 year old son sleep at night.) And despite me not being into metalcore bands like Sleeping With Sirens, and to this day I say they fumbled the bag with the vocals of both versions of I'm Here, the main theme and the boss battles themes are epic and I had only dreamed about Sonic's music having heavier sounds, but the I did not care for Knuckles's theme and the EDM just slightly oversaturates the soundtrack. I'm not even gonna touch on how I felt nothing for the story especially for both endings.. At this point I feel like the franchise will never get past this mediocre, nostalgic, everything is canon, fast friends forever forever, play it safe mentality, and slowly more and more people are slowly coming to realize that the Meta Era Didn't Die. They Just Had A Rebranding Phase.
@sele4925
@sele4925 Ай бұрын
Oh my god This man never misses
@phantommyst1933
@phantommyst1933 Ай бұрын
This video really made me realize a lot about Sonic team’s works.
@beanmchocolate3900
@beanmchocolate3900 26 күн бұрын
Frontiers I believe felt too "real" if you know what I mean. The game was probably the most fun I've had in years, going at blistering speeds, battling enemies, and just enjoying the open world. I think the best version of an open world for Sonic can be seen in Sonic Utopia.
@NuclearBombs4Bekfast
@NuclearBombs4Bekfast Ай бұрын
What is the orchestral version of His World you used?
@sora20222
@sora20222 Ай бұрын
Man I fucking love Sonic, thanks for a chill video appreciating everything I love about THE GOAT
@DanialDEcool
@DanialDEcool Ай бұрын
11:35 My head canon is that sonic R takes place after this scene and tails doll is metal sonics attempt at a friend
@groetaer
@groetaer Ай бұрын
black night isn't really the first time the use of leitmotifs is notable, in classic titles the main title theme plays if you get a invincibility power-up for example, something really re-current
@snjix.
@snjix. Ай бұрын
Whats the music that starts at 0:34?
@suttonfreeland6368
@suttonfreeland6368 27 күн бұрын
My favorite Sonic game; “Sonic and the Musical Storytelling”
@aluzion2616
@aluzion2616 Ай бұрын
Man... I cyed so many times during this video... I love it. Thanks man ❤ I would love to see more Sonic vids like that!
@WackyW0rkbench
@WackyW0rkbench Ай бұрын
good video but why did you put sonic 3 music for the composer of sonic 1 & 2
@SuWinSet
@SuWinSet 15 күн бұрын
What is the song that plays at 18:57
@bsabradybunch550
@bsabradybunch550 Ай бұрын
The music in frontiers is amazing
@Vincevanpro
@Vincevanpro Ай бұрын
THIS PART WAS SOOO GOOD😭 31:48
@teknocanadian
@teknocanadian Ай бұрын
You forgot One Way dream which is all what you wanted from the soundtrack
@Plexi.T
@Plexi.T 16 күн бұрын
Bro. Sonic and the black knight truly is a masterpiece man. Sega just decided to COOK with that game.🔥
@radicalstanley
@radicalstanley 29 күн бұрын
im so dumb i thought his world was silvers theme T^T also wheres sonic unleashed.
@Mayorski
@Mayorski 27 күн бұрын
Ran out of budget :/
@Mr.Feather130
@Mr.Feather130 14 күн бұрын
NGL frontiers not only had the best soundtrack in a sonic game but all of gaming imo
@EvanSimmers
@EvanSimmers Ай бұрын
This video is a work of art
@caldog619
@caldog619 Ай бұрын
Awesome video! I always love when people talk about Sonic music and give it the love it deserves. Gotta say, though, the title of this video is annoyingly clickbaity and really left a bad taste in my mouth going in. Fortunately, It's actually a pretty good breakdown of the musical history of Sonic (didnt know about the Crush 40 name thing lol) As for the message... I personally feel its a little contrived and unnecessary. Like, its more of a music history video and a seperate writing critique, that are being loosely dovetailed together. If the story gets better the music will adapt. In addition, Sonic games still do use leitmotif quite a bit (i.e. Team Sonic Racing Character Ultimates, Sonic Mania hard boiled heavies and metal sonic theme, Sonic Lost World Final Boss has fragments of the Eggman theme etc.), have songs with lyrics which reflect the story and situation (i.e. one way dream, break through it all) and audiovisual storytelling (i.e. Sonic Frontiers has a cybernetic theme so the majority of the tunes are some form of EDM, whereas the overworld music is prinarily orchestral and written in movements which build on eachother as you progress ). Thats just my 2 cents though, hope this video does well!
@smolryan7222
@smolryan7222 Ай бұрын
amazing stuff god DAMN
@snjix.
@snjix. Ай бұрын
whats the music that starts at 0:34?
@TayenAndLazyAnimator
@TayenAndLazyAnimator 22 күн бұрын
windmill isle night
@SlushXL
@SlushXL Ай бұрын
This man can never miss 💯
@BasementDweller_
@BasementDweller_ Ай бұрын
Sonic really do got that groovy music.
@MastaGambit
@MastaGambit 17 күн бұрын
"why on earth did he cook so much" (proceeds to play music from a game he didn't even compose on) good job, dude. lol
@YouOpaOpa
@YouOpaOpa Ай бұрын
Talks about Masato Nakamura, plays a song by Jun Senoue. Oh boy, I feel like I might not like this.
@Mayorski
@Mayorski Ай бұрын
That’s a mistake on my part,appreciate you pointing that out
@XBeastModeXEPIC
@XBeastModeXEPIC Ай бұрын
🔥🔥🔥 Sonic Music just hits diff
@heldon7951
@heldon7951 Ай бұрын
Awesome video 🔥 love the analysis of Sonic's character and the amazing music
@Rivr_Shen
@Rivr_Shen 16 күн бұрын
banger vid
@alternatelifee
@alternatelifee 2 сағат бұрын
Frontiers is a good game. Period. I don’t like it cuz I’m giving them props, I like it cuz I enjoy it as a video game, ost is insane, beautiful scenery, weird but interesting story, and fun gameplay.
@firstlettersecondpower
@firstlettersecondpower Ай бұрын
10:25 IS THAT PRETTY BANGLES BY JIPPY WHAT....
@TheOnionAnimator
@TheOnionAnimator Ай бұрын
4:06 This scared me for a millisecond
@IWADsarecool
@IWADsarecool 4 күн бұрын
what's the problem with the power of friendship? sure, FEELS cheesy since it's overdone, but the core message itself is good
@bluenightrblx
@bluenightrblx 22 күн бұрын
14k sub.
@nehen2225
@nehen2225 27 күн бұрын
Honestly I see your point but I also feel you're highly exagerating things. Frontiers is a good game with some issues sure but out of all of those the music isn't one and seeing so many comments that say "yeah you're right" and talk about a "new perspective" of open your heart (since when? Most fans knew your points already) and saying how Frontiers OST lacks elements and meaning for the history and characters (again, since when? It was the most praised part of this game when it came out and still is even with the more calmed down songs outside of the bosses) while also ignoring the history just makes me feel this video and the comments are very disingenuous and pointing non-issues as if they were issues. And now we have people saying frotiers sucks and is mediocre when it is what put Sonic on the map again? What year is this, 2005-15 where everything Sonic-related is put on the spotlight and insulted, passing it as criticism, from "fans" who hate it isn't like the old stuff and haters who go "Sonic was always mediocre"? Like, sorry because it clearly wasn't your intention but this is what it felt like to me. I saw your pinned comment but still I can't just watch this and feel good without saying what I think, you know?
@Damariobros
@Damariobros Ай бұрын
There's an ad about every three minutes in this video, you might wanna fix that. It's actually being disruptive to the video and I can't follow along.
@suttonfreeland6368
@suttonfreeland6368 27 күн бұрын
Knuckles don’t chuckle
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