the sins of SEGA Forever

Today we dive back into the world of Classic sonic remasters to talk about the problematic history of Sega Forever ($1.99 for ad free)
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Sonic Symphony - Sonic Mania Medley
Pingas music
Tee Lopes Hill Top Zone - Sonic The Hedgehog 2 HD
BossHBH - Sonic Mania
Skill Shop - Sonic Generations
Metallic Madness Act 2 - Sonic Mania
Tidal Tempest Present JP EU - Sonic CD
Metal Sonic Boss - Sonic 4 episode 2
Oil Desert Zone Act - Sonic 4 Episode 2
BlueSpheres - Sonic Mania
Marble Zone - Sonic the Hedgehog
Wacky Workbench G mix - Sonic the Hedgehog CD
Little Planet - Sonic CD
Savaged Regime Mystic Cave Zone YM2612 Rearranged

[@2fernandoc1]

A funny trick I used to do playing Sonic CD on my tablet (like two or three years ago) was to have internet while the game booted up, and then once I got into the stage, just leave the house and the game would still play just fine, no ads or constant internet required, and thus I could play Sonic CD (and Sonic 2 as well if I'm remembering correctly) without internet. By the way, I don't think the trick works anymore :(

[@AccelerateHedge]

I know for a fact that trick still works on Sonic 1.

[@randomanims]

Yes, SCD and Sonic 2 now say “the game needs internet to run” if you try the trick :((

[@ahmedis6cps]

@2fernandoc1 hey so wehn I would play sonic sega forever games I had my data on my sim emptied then before I entered I opened the data then no ads and it would work.

[@paadse]

What i do is that i start the game with data, i have VERY little data thats enough to recognice it has internet but TOO low to have ads

[@AccelerateHedge]

@@paadse Oh, neat.

[@FilipSpr]

My secret is that my mom wouldn't let me buy no ads

[@Darkiscool420]

in that case, you can use an ad blocker which does actually work.

[@Sonictheoofhog4]

​@@Darkiscool420wait there's ad blockers?!

[@rory828]

@@Sonictheoofhog4yeah on the web

[@veronicabermudez4802]

Time to steal ya mums credit card

[@Chilliboy-the-hedgehog]

​@@Sonictheoofhog4u pay money

[@MaxAbramson3]

Gamers' Bill of Rights: 1. Right to have all purchases restored 2. Right to buy a no-ad version of game 3. Terms cannot be changed after download to require purchases 4. Privacy protection: personal info not to be sold nor given away

[@InitialAA]

I have so many gripes about Sega Forever and so many other things related. I have written so much about them over the last 3 years. I'm tired. I stopped playing Sonic games regularly 4-5 months ago. I lost 17 kilos of weight

[@Tozito911]

what.

[@just_alijah22]

bro went through an entire arc after leaving sonic

[@NoNamex1412]

​@@just_alijah22that's honestly kinda impressive

[@thefastcommenter7774]

@@NoNamex1412how

[@thatitalianlameguy2235]

What

[@LightningJosue]

That angry sonic jump was really funny and really well edited

[@0MochiCoconut0]

I’m PISSED that they didn’t decide to add in a final boss with a really cool concept to the Sonic CD port because ‘We wanna stay faithful to the original game’. Yet they decide to add Continues with ads, Hidden Palace Zone, REMOVE THE SONIC 1 SPIKES, AND EVEN MORE DAMN ADS THAT RUIN THE EXPERIENCE

[@gengargamer5657]

Don’t forget an R2 substitute in Desert Dazzle

[@HEHEHE_I_AM_A_MASKED_WARRIA]

To be fair, CD was the first to be ported.

[@gengargamer5657]

@@HEHEHE_I_AM_A_MASKED_WARRIA True, but it still sucks that we never got them later on in the Mobile version or even as DLC in Origins

[@curtthegamer934]

If they were really worried about accuracy, they could have made the extra Sonic CD stuff be a toggle. You could toggle the extra features on or off.

[@DanielFerreira-ez8qd]

​@@curtthegamer934 They just wanted the game ported over in the first place, dude.

[@TheWax70]

Nice job on the video. 👍 When I saw the Crazy Taxi added to Sega Forever it made me wonder if other Dreamcast games like Sonic Adventure would be added. But then I remembered some sections of those games would be hard(or too annoying) to do on a touch pad.

[@SammySesame]

Well, I didn't expect you, TheWax.

[@dshaynietheawesome]

Thanks dude

[@carlosemilio5180]

My brother in christ not once do you need to push 2 buttons at once during SA1, not even in gamma's levels. (Proposed SA1 touchpad layout: Touch menus (duh) Main buttons: Joystick on the left and jump button on the right at all times (duh) B button action slightly to the left of jump button (with appropiate icons for each character's b button action I.E. tail spin and roll for tails (button changes with running speed) and hammer for amy at all times) Context sensitive Y button actions pop up slightly above jump button at the times they need to like the pop ups in SA2 (this would make grabbing no longer take the same button as B action) Swipe anywhere else to move camera and pinch to zoom (pinch to zoom HAS to be optional so as to not cause problems on android) Pause button in the usual spots they are in mobile games Miscellaneous buttons and actions Chao garden has all controls at once, possibly looking like a genesis 6 button controler because thats the only way they could comfortably fit Button layouts can be moved and resized in options like in sonic 1 and 2 Tap and hold anywhere to skip cutscenes Tap anywhere to advance adventure field dialogue with npcs (Casinopolis pinball) tap left side for left bumper and right side for right bumper Table tilt with either joystick or tilt controls (change in options) (Ice Cap/Tails sand level whose name I can't remember oops) Snowboard section has optional tilt controls (can be turned off) but the main button layout doesnt go away unlike pinball (Sky chase) Tornado has swipe controls, tilt controls, or joystick with shoot button on the right side and lock on button slightly left of shoot button Big's fishing has an optional skeumorph image of a reel that you reel when you want to catch the fish, removing the awkward controls of the original (you would have to set the controller down due to it being the optimal option to do this which would get annoying really fast) Controller support) (While we're on the topic, heres some things I would want for a general re-remaster: Remappable buttons X button doing Y actions instead of just copying B action More robust rumble and possibly hd rumble on switch and ps5 (also applies to mobile but wothout the hd part obviuosly) All features of dreamcast conversion with the option to use gc models with dc lighting and vice versa) Higher quality voices, sfx and remastered music from the soundtrack cd, along with a rerelease of the soundtrack cd with bonus songs if you preorder (the cd by itself sold separately if you didnt preorder) Implementing the cream model instead of a signpost (Its already in the game why did they do this in the first place) Bugfixes but NOT exploit fixes Higher quality textures for the UI and menus only Npc models that match the gc models (poor eggman) A 50 dollar burger king gift card)

[@MatthewCobalt]

...really? I've played 3D games with an on-screen analog stick, emulators and ports alike. It has as much of the precision as an actual stick, but with no physical reference point to stop or return. But unless you slide very far on the regular, this becomes a non issue.

[@marcosandrey5059]

Insert phone on fire here

[@InitialAA]

Just turn on data with your SIM not having any balance. No money wasted, no ads.

[@tedbasher3000]

what I hate about the S4E2 Forever re-release is the fact that if you own the older version (which I do, and don't ask why), it lets you download it, which is fine. ..except for the fact that the older version is locked to 30 FPS, while the new one is to 60, and unless I pay for it again, I am stuck either with ads or 30 FPS. edit: I was going to purchase the new version but it kept defaulting to my other google account and wouldn't let me change despite CLEARLY SETTING THE RIGHT ONE WHEN IT ASKED ME AT THE START. probably dodged a bullet tbh

[@dshaynietheawesome]

Wait really? I’ve never seen it at 60fps on mobile

[@its_notjordan]

i got the free version but its locked to 30 fps aswell iirc

[@ghosty2k24]

@tedbasher3000 I'm on Android and S4E2 runs at 60 frames per second. I don't know why you're stuck with 30 FPS bud.

[@tedbasher3000]

@@ghosty2k24 the new version does 60, but the old paid that I bought back in 2015 is locked to 30.

[@codyryan9789]

run it twice so it's in 60fps 🙃

[@Useott]

5:49 The unused space was for ads

[@kokonbini]

The cool part about the android version is that restoring the purchase allows you to install the legacy versions instead of just removing ads from the SF versions. The aspect ration is weird on ultrawide displays but its still better than what we have now

[@Legoluigi26]

It's great that you covered the history of this somewhat obscure part of Sega's legacy. Even when the servers and games themselves go down, this can serve as a memorial to the ups and downs of mobile gaming.

[@Terminal_Apotos]

Good to see someone else talk about how egregious the Ads on these mobile ports are. Their inconsistency when it comes to App icons is so bad.

[@marcoscabezolajr.8408]

It's so egregious that I don't have them anymore and just play origins

[@valmid5069]

Very well done review--there are times when every franchise has its own ups and downs

[@justsomesimplenuclearbirbs4313]

It seems whoever's in charge of SEGA's mobile division isn't aware of how to handle their mobile games. For example, as a way to promote the new season of Sonic Prime, SEGA Hardlight quite literally ported over Sonic Dash+ (the iOS version of Sonic Dash that doesn't have *any* microtransactions or ads on top of a few improvements compared to the original), removed the plus and slapped a poorly made fancy new logo on it and made a few characters from Sonic Prime that were already available in the original game default characters (aka, characters you get immediately after clearing the tutorial). As a result, the original Sonic Dash is now much less enjoyable thanks to a new update that forces you to collect cards, just like in Sonic Forces: Speed Battle except much, *much,* *_much_* worse. And I do mean "just like in Sonic Forces: Speed Battle" as now if you want to upgrade a specific character you now need a specific number of cards on top of having the necessary amount of Rings. Which sucks for OG players who may have characters from crossover events as now if they didn't max out a specific crossover character they straight up *can't* and are forever stuck with those characters at specific stats. The kicker is SEGA Hardlight promoted the update by saying it would make collecting characters "faster" when in reality it's slower, by a *wide* margin. Normally events allowing you to get specific characters would require 250, 500 or even 1,000 Character Tokens or collecting the four items scattered throughout your runs depending on the event. With characters that have a nice balance between their "Dash" gauge and how long magnets last it's possible to get the necessary Character Tokens *way* before the event's even close to halfway done. They also flat out said the best part of Sonic Dash was the character collecting which kinda confuses me considering Sonic Dash is literally just a high score simulator without any purpose. Once you get that one character that you either were really hyped for or has some incredible stats you really like, every other character just feels like unnecessary fluff and you're only collecting them for the sake of collecting. There's no passive bonus for collecting characters or some kind of meta dictating which characters are the most OP on the nonexistent leaderboards. Hell, there isn't even a standard multiplayer race to see how far you can travel compared to your rival(s) or compete to see who can get the the highest score in a single run. We're just lucky the most SEGA Forever did in terms of money making was make you pay for no ads, can you imagine having to actively pay for lives, rings or even to try the special stages? That thought absolutely *terrifies* me.

[@Ai_Patrick-cg3cw]

I am NOT reading allat❌🤣

[@fotinistylianomanolaki1172]

THEY'VE GIVEN SONIC DASH THE SPEED BATTLE CARD SYSTEM?! Sonic dash was my first ever sonic game (no joke) and this is KILLING me. The reason i EVER got excited unlocking a new character was cause "oh cool sonic character" their stats are premade, sure, BUT YOU CAN LITERALLY CHANGE THEIR WHOLE STATS SO WHATS THE POINT OF MAKING THEM HARDER TO UNLOCK?! Heck in speed battle and dash 2 you couldn't change the stats, only upgrade them but even then, this whole card thing would be unecessary. As you said: "They also said the best part about dash is getting the characters which confuses me considering sonic dash is literally just a high score simulator without any purpose".

[@fotinistylianomanolaki1172]

And what i meant by you not being able to change their stats, i meant how u can upgrade em so much to a poiht where you practically changed them. Example: 1 shield 5 dash Etc. U can change these attributes when in 2 and speed battle theres only a set attribute(s) and you just uptrade them.

[@jojoojoratti123]

@@Ai_Patrick-cg3cw comprehensive reading is a thing y'know.

[@2fernandoc1]

This is literally the reason why the only Mobile Sonic games I play are Sonic Runners Revival and Sonic Boom Dash

[@anthonygibsonjr.3818]

This is why I downloaded old versions of classic sonic games from some apk website except CD btw because when I opened app after it says download failed so it was hard from last year for me but I did got to work on happymods when It unlocked everything on game so I'm good to go without the ads.

[@SuperSky712]

you jumping into a ball at 11:17 really expresses the anger of the ads issue LMAO

[@yean4573]

this is the first video of yours I've watched and it made me really happy and smiley. this was a great video!

[@retroreina400]

I’ve been waiting for someone to document this for years. In addition to the things you mentioned, sometimes the screen locks incorrectly on wider displays, such as in the Quartz Quadrant boss fight, resulting in ridiculously small room for movement (and the spike trap being a non issue due to being off screen.) the save files for Sonic 1 and 2 don’t work when starting a new file. They default to a completed save file the next time you open them, regardless of your in game progress.

[@Embyreal]

I am SO glad you brought up this topic given I have my own personal gripes with Sega Forever, and how they seem to not know how to operate their apps properly. I remember when I redownloaded Sonic 1 after having not played it in over 5 years (I last played it in 2016) and saw that they added ads to it of which, I recall being disappointed and eventually annoyed with the EXCESSIVE amount of them. There are different types of issues with their thing besides the Sonic games such as Comix Zone’s controls being unresponsive and difficult for the game to unplayable for many including myself; logging in and saving for games such as Shining Force can take one or multiple attempts for it to work properly, etc.

[@just_alijah22]

i don’t want no more beat battle and royal match ads in my sonic games 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥

[@sffs886]

Yea ik, probably the worst ads are the royal match ones lol.

[@robertanderson9447]

Thank you for talking about these things, I genuinely thought nobody cared. It's sad to see these apps continue to degrade in quality. CD has managed to avoid the worst of it, thankfully, but it's not totally unscathed. Sound effects that were definitely still there pre-Sega Forever have been missing for years, namely the rolling sound, the signpost sound and the register sound when the score tally ends. And Sonic 1's special stage editor, the poor thing. It relies on debug mode, so when the forced pausing began, that made it harder to use. Especially when an ad would play every single time. It seems the ad frequency has been reduced since then, but even so it's still annoying. Random side note, CD's description in the Play Store gets its trivia wrong. Sonic CD was not the first game to feature Sonic speaking, I believe that was 1991's Waku Waku Sonic Patrol Car. It also claims the infamous hidden message was meant to scare pirates. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't that disproven a long time ago?

[@SunkyMan]

I bought sonic 2 on Google play back in 2013, and wanted the Sega forever version on my phone, and when I tried to restore my purchase to get no ads, the app just took me to Google play to redownload sonic 2 2013.

[@JmanTheGamerFNF]

Good video!! But that cliffhanger was something

[@TheCreativeType]

Thanks for telling me about Sonic 3 Air on iOS, I can now play all of the classic Sonic games on my phone! I even went and copied over all of the settings I have set in my computer.

[@nothydrossity]

also the sega forever discord server is literally broken, it has one of those reaction verification things but it doesn’t work

[@thesmilingman7576]

11:54 you get used to it after awhile (but now that I got a taste with the decomp when I go back to the version with ads I start to go stir crazy when they pop up)

[@hyperstarman6848]

I don't know why they keep fucking with the Whitehead versions of these games, that were already perfect, adding "improvements" when they're only adding problems that make them worse than the originals and introducing more bugs in the process.

[@elmaionesosexo]

12:00 very simple, I used my School's WiFi. That WiFi couldn't connect to my phone and would end up in a state of "connected without internet" which let me play the games with no ads. That's how I beated Sonic 2 400%

[@RustyLeguito]

Wow.

[@Bacons4Lyfe]

Now 400% Sonic CD And 1 and 100% Sonic 4 Episode 2

[@elmaionesosexo]

@@Bacons4Lyfe Hell no, CD was mid and very annoying, and 4 never happened.

[@squidward577]

This is the one and only time Sonic Origins will be better than something

[@gengargamer5657]

Not the only time, but ok

[@TheCreativeType]

6:26 Oh, I feel that. It’s very annoying, and I believe it’s been in the game for a long time now and still hasn’t been fixed. Also, speaking of bugs, when playing as Tails (In Sonic 2, maybe also in Sonic 1 but I’m not sure) and going very fast (faster than normal running speed), it doesn’t play the right animation where his tails sorta make a circle, instead just doing the normal sunning speed animation, but very fast. I don’t know when this bug became a thing, but I know it wasn’t there before.

[@bluey-next777]

1:09 THAT SONG SLAPS!

[@bananabike279]

Cool concept, poor exacution. I remember this being announced and even downloaded some of these like Ristar and Sonic 1, but was almost inmediately turned off by the constant barrage of ads :/

[@ENDfilms44]

Love how you placed the youtube ad spot right at the "load ads" line.

[@robotx9285]

I understand the iusses, tho this video felt kinda directionless. It vaguely advances forward.l, with a vague end goal.

[@Cloud67TR]

0:27 it's soo relatable

[@YaroKasear]

This just makes me glad that: 1. I don't play mobile games. If I think I'll be gaming on the go, I'll play my switch where those sorts of shenanigans with ads just won't play. 2. If I want to play classic Sonic, I'm pretty much never going with official Sega releases since Sega can't even EMULATE their games properly, let alone do remasters that don't suck. Bonus: You don't actually need the Steam version of S3K to play Sonic 3 AIR. Pretty much any .bin of it that isn't patched will do. The S3 AIR website even points this out and most ROMs of it you find, provided they're not in a cooked ROM format (Hence why I said .bin.) will match the checksum of the ROM you'd get from the Steam version. S3AIR blows everything even Sonic Origins has done out of the water.

[@DaltonLunday2103]

For as bad as sonic origins is,it’s the only way I can play the classic games without ads since I don’t own a pc. I grew up with the 2013 release of sonic 2 so it breaks my heart to see it in its current state.

[@thatonecountryballanimator]

My solution to the ads: use a crappy hotspot, as it only detects if you’re connected, but not how good it is. No ads baby!!!!!

[@Voxdenable]

Thank you Sega, for giving me more reason to stick to the Sonic Mega and Sonic Gems collections, and having backups of both just in case.

[@woshee_real]

Or stick to the amazon appstore versions of sonic 1, 2, and cd if on android as those if I remember are basically the same as the old versions.

[@sackydzNG]

Or just play Sonic 1 Forever, Sonic 2 Absolute, Sonic CD Restored, and Sonic 3 A.I.R.

[@Leonard_Wolf_2056]

​@@sackydzNGyeah, they are far better. It's hard to beat something which is free.

[@aimbot4arrowz982]

Im not far into the video, but: Did you know, that if you actually restored your purchase for the Sega Forever emulated game, it would straight up take you to the emulated version, and not restore the ads-free play for your purchase?

[@alexanderhermansyah6713]

11:18 bro was so surprised and angry he did sonic’s up smash.

[@NoNamex1412]

11:16 that was terrifying

[@dbfd276]

11:54 i could live with the ads just fine except for sonic 2 where the ad could potentially softlock the game

[@hainkel6677]

Just press "go back" in the cornor

[@SoundFantasy]

Just reminder this Sega Forever and the account that runs Sega Forever KZbin and Twitter are different. Sega Forever Twitter/KZbin are genuinely amazing for sharing high quality pieces of Sega artwork and assets. Awesome account.

[@dshaynietheawesome]

I agree

[@T.T_CenrryTH]

Remember kids, always use the decomps if you play on android!

[@Youknowjoe187]

it's a good month when you upload a sonic video

[@xofi.]

so like every other video

[@Dr.RobotnikGaming99]

the thing about this old ipad 2 I have, is with sonic cd the ads just don’t work. very nice 10/10

[@mb8w27]

There’s a ad when you’re trying to sleep. There’s a ad when your going outside.

[@Chokun-Gaming]

I bought the original Sonic 1 and 2 mobile ports before sega forever became a thing on my Android phone (where the sega forever versions replaced the orignals rather than being updates) and redownloaded them every time I got a new one. Somehow, despite using the most up to date version of the OS the games still work as intended with the only even remotely broken-ish thing being certain things that were meant to be off screen being at the edge of the screen due to the modern screen size

[@blur7491]

7:04 Actually, the Sega Forever version broke the hand models for Sonic, where the finger joints just...didn't work However, they had the new ones active at the same time as the old ones in special stages, causing Sonic to have 4 hands. This got fixed later, but it was really amusing seeing Sonic with 10 fingers on 1 hand catching the emerald.

[@kattnip500]

I still remember when what I assume to be Sega Forever just absolutely broke Sonic 1 somehow, I'm talking random stuff from Sonic 2 just showing up, messing with the time trials menu (GHZ act 3 was treated as the start of a new zone, would keep offsetting until a bunch of later levels were just inaccessible), and you just flat out could not complete Spring Yard Zone Act 3 (You just DIED as sonic walked offscreen), the save select menu showed 7 emeralds (6 were still required by default as far as I'm aware). It was years ago at this point but like HOW did they mess up copy-pasting code that badly??? I'm still glad I have the Spring Yard death glitch that made the game UNCOMPLETEABLE archived via KZbin because like Why?

[@TheBlur182]

Great video thank you

[@BlueEyedVibeChecker]

I still play the android ports that I purchased years ago. The ones that were counterparts to the free"no wifi, no saves" version. It sucks they don't update the premium ones, but the "with ads" version is still supported...

[@AguywithanH]

This is why i play the decompilation version of these games

[@I-like-Sonic-91]

On the Amazon Appstore versions of the classic Sonic games, they thankfully haven't been updated to have the "Sega Forever" branding yet.

[@epicstar86]

As a person who first played all the mobile ports of these classic games back in 2012, I feel your pain

[@Bacons4Lyfe]

Sonic cd mobile / Console/pc Remaster Released in 2011 But Sonic 1 and 2 Released in 2013

[@epicstar86]

@@Bacons4Lyfe yea ik

[@crashban4t.f.s.b783]

Thankyou for the Spindash scene.

[@eiadithecoder620]

my secret is that i used rsdk decompilation which fixes most bugs, and has a port on pc, and easly modable, and most importantly, no ads or internet connection

[@RareCypherKnuckles]

“And to record ad-“ An ad: “Allow us to introduce ourselves.”

[@Silskanaalsilschannel1234]

Request: Return of Sonic Origins (Plus Review)

[@beatziegraham6928]

I remember them saying that Dreamcast games would also be on mobile but the only one that got that, jet set radio, got removed.

[@dshaynietheawesome]

Oh man I forgot about that now i wish I brought it up in the video

[@Deridiya]

Crazy Taxi still exist, but again its still part of the Sega Forever.

[@kevinm.5951]

I remember years ago I had an app that acted as a vpn to block websites I remember getting so fed up with ads playing sonic cd on rhe school pr9vided ipads ro pass the tine I blacklisted all the sites that distributed mobile ads like vungle or google ads and it actually worked. The fame would attempt to load an ad but nothing would show up. Good times But now i barely have money so i'm above all that. I don't miss it

[@flordelizhawk358]

I am glad the decomps exist and now we have the versions purified from the ads.

[@bluestaggo]

I use the decomps which do not have ads or any of the extra Sega Forever stuff. They take a bit to set up, but it is worth it.

[@limpid_runaway1879]

It's fixed. Now whenever you pause in Sonic 2 and I think 1 too, you don't get an ad when you unpause

[@Brabbs]

Nice edited video pointing out problems.

[@gengargamer5657]

Now I’m even more glad I stuck w/ Origins Plus

[@KiwiTheRetroGal]

FUUUCK YEEEAAAAAAHHHH! These ads have been the bane of little me's existence back in (checks list) 2016!

[@keytester2xp339]

theres an ad that replaces continues in sonic! .... tbh thats kinda dope tho cuz all i gotta do is watch an ad to start again

[@dshaynietheawesome]

I prefer earning my continues by being good at the game

[@TheCreativeType]

I’ve known the Sonic 2 Emerald, Debug and extra continues codes for years, but haven’t heard of the proto palace code until now. Gonna go try that. (Yes, I play the mobile version, I know about hidden palace and the backstory behind it)

[@TheCreativeType]

Turns out the code you provided is barely wrong, you forgot the 04 at the end, and you apparently need to activate debug mode too.

[@TheCreativeType]

Strange, I’m playing it as Sonic + Tails, but there was a 1-up monitor with Tails on it.

[@TheCreativeType]

Interesting how they warp you back to the level select when you get to where the level “ends”. I wonder if I can bypass it with debug mode…

[@TheCreativeType]

I can, but there’s not much to see. It’s basically just a carbon copy of the prototype version of Hidden palace from what I can tell.

[@robertanderson9447]

​@@TheCreativeTypeI think the Tails monitor is also a reference to the prototype Hidden Palace, which had the same thing.

[@stevenkyng3]

NoBoDy MeSsEs WiTh TaiLs

[@ssq24studios]

As soon as you said about the Wi-Fi ads, an ad popped up

[@superthanasis4727]

Yo there is a definitive way to play Sonic 1 on mobile (and Sonic 2 in the future tho)... Ok, so Team Forever have created a fan-port of the retro engine Sonic 1 & 2 on PC with lots of quality of life improvements (like drop dash, new modes, Amy as a playable new character etc.) which are called Sonic 1 Forever and Sonic 2 Absolute. And a couple of months ago they released Sonic 1 Forever on mobile and guess what, there absolutely no ads!! You should check it out

[@gengargamer5657]

I wouldn’t say those are definitive considering they’re only on PC and Mobile. Also, don’t forget about Origins

[@realsmg5]

Yes I Would Check It out And Played the Original Version Of Sonic 2

[@KizuxTheo]

I bought all 3 Shining Force game ad free IAP, but my Shining Force 2 has a weird issue where the save is corrupt? And I think it was even uploaded to the cloud corrupted, when I leave the app the save reverts back a corrupted one and unless they wipe my save on the cloud, there's no much I can do, I even messaged support and basically said they can't do a thing about it. It's specially weird when the other two Shining Force games work normally. And I hate that there's no local save file when you buy the ad free version.

[@JustLuhke_211]

Thankfully the decomps exist so no one has to suffer with the sega forever stuff xd

[@gengargamer5657]

And Origins as well

[@Catfan0202]

I think the reason you got the watch a ad to continue sometimes and not others while there was that bug was that you get the pop-up if you don't have any continues but the times you didn't you had at least 1

[@Birb64]

no one ever mentions this, but there is also an ad when you go into debug mode. THIS HAS RUINED DEBUG MODE. So I just decided to buy it, then install an older apk for android to make it work again. Screw you sega forever.

[@michaelfr6290]

I'll never forget how they took competition away from me

[@connorplays6263]

I also came across a bug in Sonic 1 where the game would glitch out after clearing scrap brain act 2 and I couldn't progress to act three and complete the game

[@TotalFirey]

For some reason, Sonic 1 now has static image ads, which you can X out of immediately (at least for me), so basically Sonic 1 Mobile is ad-free… kind-of

[@JayDOVA]

when I play, I open the game normally and then switch over to an expired sim card and basically get 0 ads

[@melo-7904]

the sega forever versions of sonic 1 and 2 are part of the reason i have a android along with my main iphone if you know you know since i own more copys of sonic 1 then you can sake a stick at and even the paid versions of the mobile versions and i still cant restore them

[@moreedcola6837]

10:08 Actually, it’ll work with any S3&K ROM, you just have to find a ROM (they’re everywhere, shouldn’t be THAT hard to find) and rename the title of the file to that of the Steam version. Yes, I do know that it is in fact technically piracy.

[@carlosmds875]

I have Sonic 1 2 and CD for Android since last year, these games are definitely better than the mega drive versions, but I also never understood why they update them and to this day I literally haven't seen ANY improvement, what's worse is that there are a lot of notable bugs, mainly that debug mode one that annoys me so much 🤦 In a dream world these games received relevant updates like the addition of new characters like Amy Mighty and Ray, and bug fixes that should be fixed.

[@dshaynietheawesome]

If your on android then I suggest you track down a apk of a pre sega forever version I used that on blue stacks to record footage for the video

[@carlosmds875]

@@dshaynietheawesome I think this is the only way I can use my dear debug mode in peace

[@aanies40]

​@@carlosmds875Hi carlos

[@carlosmds875]

@@aanies40 Oh hi 😅

[@aquaponieee]

because if you do not update your app, it will be removed. look at what happened to geometry dash. all these versions probably are just all identical

[@mediamuncher69]

10:12 I don't have two icons for 1 and 2! How did you get them. I really don't like the soild color it sticks outike sore thumb lol. Btw good editing 11:17

[@Kirby37318]

When it said “and 2: to load ads” KZbin gave me a perfectly timed ad.

[@JW_937]

You missed one thing about when they put ads to continue (which based on how good you probably are isn’t surprising). After game overing in the paid version, continuing your save file now only gives you one life instead of the normal 3 it used to so you have are more likely to watch more ads (which you would probably need if you game overed in the first place) if you can’t beat the level without checkpoints or finding an extra one up. I just tested and this hasn’t been reverted since the removal of the play an ad to continue so if you are a super casual player who does a lot, sucks to suck.

[@Obvisley]

Oh and fun fact sonic 1,2, and cd where ported on the Apple TV with no ads it’s kinda great.

[@dshaynietheawesome]

Oh ive always wanted to try that but don’t have a modern apple tv

[@Obvisley]

Well you can buy one I mean it’s compatible with a higher version but it won’t work for the 2007 Apple TV you need like the 2016 or higher Apple TV in odder to play it but it’s better that sega forever never update the Apple TV version and for s2 the Apple TV version still has Porto palace but unfortunately I don’t know how to access level select in sonic 1 and 2 on Apple TV but hey the Apple TV has some fun stuff to!

[@pedroferreira4307]

My secret is, I turn my brain off when there is an ad

[@rubiks_20]

2:38 perfect timing

[@awesomeraf7851]

Alternate title: How SEGA Forever TRIGGERS you

[@dshaynietheawesome]

Damn thats good

[@awesomeraf7851]

Thanks

[@Rasheed470]

No if the title is like this i wont watch it

[@awesomeraf7851]

@@Rasheed470 it's a reference to Nathaniel Bandy

[@sabihabagum8122]

Fun fact: the mobile version of sonic 4 episode 1 is just the beta version of the game.

[@ozzmarwars4546]

Oh time for sonic origins plus!

[@SonicBoi10737]

My secret is because I already see more ads than me actually living peacefully.

[@jessicagoodwin2530]

The rage is real

[@koolaid33]

The first person I've ever seen whose angry about them not being able to play Sonic 4.

[@ChipcupYT]

11:57 a lot of patients

[@Lach1xn]

I still I remember how I met you on the bus cuz I was playing Sonic CD on my phone when I was sitting next to you hahaha :D

[@NOUH-my9kq]

2:37 when he said to load ads an actual ad popped up💀💀💀