Guide to Acoustic Treatment: A MUST for Better Recordings & Mixes

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SonicScoop

SonicScoop

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@reinaldomartinez13
@reinaldomartinez13 3 жыл бұрын
I just want to say, thank you for putting out this information in a very concise and digestible format. This type of information is usually behind paywalls of universities and online courses, but it's here for free. Thank you
@finn6612
@finn6612 5 жыл бұрын
that two-camera setup totally blew me away
@BluesLicks101
@BluesLicks101 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a retired principal engineer - worked my way up to global distribution projects since the early 2000's. I really enjoy your channel, Justin: you are a concise speaker and a very very good teacher. I still mix thru my old KRK Series 2 V8's and will be interested to download that phone app. Thanks, and keep up the important work of sharing the light that is music!
@rb032682
@rb032682 5 жыл бұрын
I have that KRK phone app. It's pretty nice.
@ManofSmith
@ManofSmith 4 жыл бұрын
@@rb032682 It's amazing. Simple. To the point. So helpful.
@rozzze999
@rozzze999 4 жыл бұрын
I think the app is only for the Gen 4 rokkits
@alextotheroh8071
@alextotheroh8071 4 жыл бұрын
By far the best video I've seen on this topic!
@amdenis
@amdenis 3 жыл бұрын
I had studied this in-depth some years ago, but needed a refresher. You did such a amazingly useful job of covering virtually all of the key areas- thx!
@teem_i_am
@teem_i_am 19 күн бұрын
Best Video! Thank you. I have problem where my low frequency is actually disappears and I can't hear it as much as I expect it. How do I deal with that?I use good Genelec speakers with 10" drivers and still not enough bass...
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 9 күн бұрын
This is VERY common in smaller untreated rooms, or minimally treated rooms. Room modes and nodes with deep nulls at specific bass frequencies are to be expected. Your main options are: 1. Try some broadband absorption that goes deep: 6" rigid fiberglass acoustic panels hung in the corners of your room. This is often the best place to start. 2. Adding a sub to a different spot in the room that creates less of a null. 3. EQ correction like Sonarworks or Trinnov. 4. Tuned absorbers specifically tailored to your room by an acoustician. 5. Active bass traps. 6. Some combination of the above. I hope that helps!
@deanroddey2881
@deanroddey2881 4 жыл бұрын
Though this is obviously an overview, I will say that he is a coherent speaker and he is providing a well balanced view of the problem and the solutions. I've gone over-board in the past on treatments, and the results are amazing in terms of making a small room sound like a vastly larger room. I'm sort of starting again after many years. As he did, I previously did DIY but this time I'm buying (GIK also in my case.) I had enough 703 in my previous room to give everyone on this continent black lung, but it measured stupidly flat for a normal sized home studio room.
@armansrsa
@armansrsa 4 жыл бұрын
my bass traps are 15" thick all around. Even my ceiling traps are 15" thick. I used light insulation for lower absorption... my room was very dead after so I installed wooden slats for some high frequency ER...overall very happy with it.
@joyoffilming9500
@joyoffilming9500 3 жыл бұрын
Just mounted a whiole bunch of broad band absorbers in my homeoffice / studio with great results. So, all of the theory already there, but I enjoyed this comprehensive video, using such a clear and nice language and intonation. Wow!
@DeadOriginal
@DeadOriginal 4 жыл бұрын
We made 8 acoustic panels for $300 mdf plywood cut into 3 in and 4 in panels, mineral wool, breathable weed stopper to encase the panels and finished with a cover of felt
@EnchantedRhythms
@EnchantedRhythms 2 ай бұрын
So glad I found this video series. Thanks so much for the info, I've subscribed. Do you have any videos covering clouds/ceiling panels?
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 2 ай бұрын
Great to hear! I don’t, but that would be a great idea.
@calebneff5777
@calebneff5777 3 жыл бұрын
When I was designing my room, I knew the centerpiece would be the diffuser, which is 30 white birch logs cut in random lengths from 5' to 8'. Not only does it capture the eye and make the room more aesthetically comfortable, but it works great. Even before I hung any absorption people commented that the room sounded more controlled. I think it's a great diffusion technique, it's truly random.
@theotoby9110
@theotoby9110 3 жыл бұрын
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@jorgekane2842
@jorgekane2842 3 жыл бұрын
@Theo Toby Instablaster =)
@theotoby9110
@theotoby9110 3 жыл бұрын
@Jorge Kane i really appreciate your reply. I got to the site on google and I'm trying it out now. Seems to take quite some time so I will reply here later with my results.
@theotoby9110
@theotoby9110 3 жыл бұрын
@Jorge Kane it did the trick and I now got access to my account again. I am so happy! Thank you so much, you really help me out!
@jorgekane2842
@jorgekane2842 3 жыл бұрын
@Theo Toby Glad I could help :)
@YourAmigoNiko
@YourAmigoNiko 3 ай бұрын
Another great video, thanks! Ready to watch part 3.
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 3 ай бұрын
Great to hear!
@iceberg220
@iceberg220 4 жыл бұрын
Priceless information, indeed; I’ve seen people spending a fortune on equipment, mainly expensive speakers and neglecting on this very important part of a studio; thank you, for making this available!
@rickspyder6159
@rickspyder6159 4 жыл бұрын
Killer vid ... real world knowledge and you are also inspiring people to do things the right way ... cheers
@robinator3202
@robinator3202 3 жыл бұрын
The BEST of Acoustic videos on YT. 👍🏼
@wesleyhendricks153
@wesleyhendricks153 4 жыл бұрын
Great video and nice tips. Just to get some clarity or anyone who wants to comment on where to place the panel using the mirror technique. You sit in your seat at the point where you would normally sit and mix right? Then someone takes the mirror around the wall and wherever you see a speaker is where you would put a panel? Did I get that right?
@chrizzlerguitaroni1928
@chrizzlerguitaroni1928 3 жыл бұрын
Now I'm really diffused. Great video!
@iSeeZar
@iSeeZar 3 жыл бұрын
this video and your speech patterns are so hypnotic. im entranced
@paulmora2480
@paulmora2480 4 ай бұрын
This is a great video. Thank you for the content!
@2und2sind4
@2und2sind4 2 жыл бұрын
a bookshelf is a great diffusor aswell!
@rustyj40
@rustyj40 3 жыл бұрын
This was a very well made and informative video. Many thanks for producing this!
@terrygreen6088
@terrygreen6088 2 жыл бұрын
Started out building a while ago i got my first reflections on sides ceiling and back wall coverd and it makes a big difference next up il build some bass traps TNX for the additional info really liked you're video
@bsykesbeats
@bsykesbeats 4 жыл бұрын
How do u feel about Rockwool insulation vs fiberglass?
@MayotheMaker
@MayotheMaker 2 жыл бұрын
Most comprehensive video ive seen on accoustic treatment. Thank you!
@pineappleblack1449
@pineappleblack1449 4 жыл бұрын
Most helpful video I've come across on the topic thanks a bunch
@blotterink
@blotterink 5 жыл бұрын
Justin got all the free game
@jaymaloney9246
@jaymaloney9246 5 жыл бұрын
Justin, thanks for the valuable info. I have a couple quick questions : (1) what do you think is the general effect and severity of having a carpeted room (as opposed to some type of flooring)? (2) how do you recommend dealing with windows, i.e. should they be covered with a specific window treatment? Thanks.
@JustinColletti
@JustinColletti 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Jay, I prefer uncovered floors and selective absorption. It is possible to make a room too dry, or too unbalanced in the frequencies that are being absorbed. I find that starting with hard surfaces and adding thicker absorbers is better than having carpet or covering everything with really thin absorbers. The latter tends to lead to a somewhat muffled and muddy sound in my opinion. The very best thing to do with a window is place it behind your speakers and not worry about it too much! You get to look out of it, and the sonic effects are super minimal that way. The second best thing is to have it somewhere else and have the option of a removable absorber so you can have the light when you want it and the treatment when you need it.
@zoonal-gg
@zoonal-gg Жыл бұрын
Awesome Video thank you very much!
@bigkid757
@bigkid757 3 жыл бұрын
Great advice! You definitely don’t want a totally dead room. If you’ve ever been in an anechoic chamber it’s almost unnatural... pretty strange actually. 😂 Question about base traps where the walls horizontally meet the ceiling. How important are traps there. You’ve mentioned vertical bass traps , but not horizontal traps. Thanks!
@KeeplookingUP777
@KeeplookingUP777 3 жыл бұрын
Love the burgundy color of the panels.
@chad_kaya
@chad_kaya 4 жыл бұрын
Looking to do some acoustic treatment in my home studio soon. Appreciating these videos very much. Mahalo!
@JonathanAyers
@JonathanAyers 3 жыл бұрын
I liked your real world person approach. Not everyone can afford to spend thousands at the drop of a hat. Very realistic approach to things! So many people seem to have lost touch with reality…
@yumpinyiminy963
@yumpinyiminy963 Жыл бұрын
WOW - Someone that understands acoustic treatment vs sound proofing. I see so many negative reviews for acoustic panel etc... where they thought it would soundproof a room. Your right, you have to basically build it into the wall or build a secondary wall with a gap. Kind of like insulating a house. I've got some Kali IN-8 V2's coming. Not for a studio, just built new PC, 4K 120Hz TV/Monitor and some butt kicking headphones. So bye bye Altec Lansings (bought out or folded). I can EQ these for my listening preference.
@IllisiaAdams
@IllisiaAdams 4 жыл бұрын
Thank yoooou! Honestly, ninety-percent of this I already knew from various other sources, but *finally* someone blooming explains diffusers properly! Everyone else has just been, like, "use diffusers? why? er... because they're good" haha! /Subscribed!
@canilhan98
@canilhan98 2 жыл бұрын
super useful video. thanks!
@ZAYAZOfficial
@ZAYAZOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent Video !
@idrumalot
@idrumalot 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! I learned a ton. Thanks for this.
@rb032682
@rb032682 5 жыл бұрын
Good stuff. I just have a budget home studio for personal enjoyment and mostly play around with audio processor plug-ins, etc. I regret I didn't know anything about acoustic treatment 40 years ago when I was working in bands full-time. What got me hooked on acoustic treatment was when I started getting enough treatment in my room to affect the low frequencies. It was like a little bit of magic when the lows were under control. As many do, I wasted money on too much foam, but the old foam got stuffed into large burlap bags and became part of the low freq. absorbers. Amazon used to use "cotton wool" made from re-cycled blue jeans to insulate their delivery totes for frozen and refrigerated food. So, I got more absorbers just about every week with my grocery delivery. The cotton wool makes a very effective absorber and is not irritating to humans when handled. GIK makes good stuff. I have a couple GIK corner traps and some 6-inch traps with scatter plates similar to yours, just a different pattern on the diffuser. "Acoustic Fields" makes some good foam and excellent carbon-based low-freq. absorbers. I can't justify the expense of those carbon absorbers for myself but it is still nice to know what is currently available. ....enough of my rambling.
@WassupFred
@WassupFred 2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@studionineproductions8173
@studionineproductions8173 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Justin, here is an excerpt from an article I wrote once that viewers might find helpful. It outlines the sound absorption properties of a 703 panel "The sound absorption properties of a two inch 703 panel as documented by Owens Corning are as follows. The number following the frequency is the sound absorption coefficient when the panel is mounted against a solid backing; in this case the wall of your studio. The Noise Reduction Coefficient (NRC) is an average (rounded to the nearest multiple of 0.05) of the sound absorption coefficient at four different frequencies: 250Hz, 500Hz, 1000Hz, and 2000Hz. A coefficient of 0.00 equals no absorption, 0.50 equals 50% absorption and 1.00 equals 100% absorption. Because these figures are based on measurements and not percentages, it is possible to have a number greater than 1. But 1.00 is considered perfect absorption with no reflections. 125Hz 0.17 250Hz 0.86 500Hz 1.14 1000Hz 1.07 2000Hz 1.02 4000Hz 0.98 Noise Reduction Coefficient (NRC) 1.00 The chart show us a two inch 703 panel is great for absorbing your mid and upper-mid range frequencies, solving problems you might have with reflections of those frequencies bouncing off bare walls. It also shows that it does next to nothing for low end frequencies, meaning they should be used in conjunction with bass traps." Michael Nickolas
@paulwalsh6734
@paulwalsh6734 4 жыл бұрын
Hi. im looking at possibly building some bass traps. i studied sound engineering many years ago at a basic level so i get the concept of using something with the right mass to absorb particular frequencies. how the hell would i found out what has the right mass/resonance? wish i stayed on at college ha
@studionineproductions8173
@studionineproductions8173 4 жыл бұрын
Six inch thick open face fiberglass insulation can absorb low frequencies. Covered in a breathable cloth of course.
@paulguy2545
@paulguy2545 Жыл бұрын
What is your general opinion on Studio Setups in Living Rooms that have Carpet with Underlay, Thick Curtains & Soft Sofas with Cushions, can these go some way to addressing these acoustic issues? I am on a limited budget and have just gotten my 1st set of proper Studio Monitors with some stands and de-coupling pads as part of a bundle. I have placed my monitors in an Equilateral Triangle, they are placed at one end of the room (where the Front Window is & are in the Long-Throw position of my rectangular room.
@MiDnYTe25
@MiDnYTe25 4 жыл бұрын
Bass traps *are* thick broadband absorbers. What you're referring to are limp mass bass absorbers. They function as tuned bass traps, but aren't what people generally mean by the term.
@Tmisp2209
@Tmisp2209 4 жыл бұрын
I love the smug look when he switches to the side camera lol
@Nobody-hc2bo
@Nobody-hc2bo 3 жыл бұрын
I taped a single piece of egg holder foam to my wall. 10/10 won a Grammy recently
@LoganGreenMusic
@LoganGreenMusic 4 жыл бұрын
That turn tho😂 2:12
@leonwangls
@leonwangls 2 жыл бұрын
My method is cheapest. Just hang curtains. You can adjust the absorption by opening or closing the curtain
@kieranunsworth3736
@kieranunsworth3736 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic stuff, thanks for your help. Love your videos.
@bond6132
@bond6132 3 жыл бұрын
Love the video, very informative! There’s so much misinformation about acoustic treatment online
@petethegreekre
@petethegreekre 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for that!
@alfredogarcia4702
@alfredogarcia4702 3 жыл бұрын
Hi what about speaker isolation on soeaker stands does it help improve the sound? Thanks good information btw.
@undercrownhiphop9422
@undercrownhiphop9422 Жыл бұрын
Got a 15 x 12 x 8 mixing/vocal room. Where would u Not put the diffuser/absorber combo panels? Ceiling/wall corners, side wall corners, or behind speakers?
@masochistmonkey
@masochistmonkey 4 жыл бұрын
Your videos are super informative AND I am also super impressed with your speaking/presentation style. Did you take a class ? Your style just seems so polished. There are so many other videos I can’t watch because the way they speak drives me insane, usually either because they are too monotonous, too lazy with pronunciation or they have this sing-song approach to speaking that sounds like a child reading a book.
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much. If that's true, I think it just comes from doing a lot of videos! And maybe from growing up in a family that talked a lot. The book "The Elements of Style" helped me a lot with writing and getting ideas across. Maybe a little bit of that carries over too. Hope that helps!
@lapriestrobinson6574
@lapriestrobinson6574 2 жыл бұрын
Great editing man I watched the whole video an didn’t realize it was 24 minutes long lol 😂. Very informative
@forresthale9529
@forresthale9529 5 жыл бұрын
I am primarily a bass player, so I deal with a lot of low frequencies. I have one half of a basement with semi-open walls in front of me, and a window behind. Can't avoid that, as family uses the rest of the room. Any ideas? It's a rough room! I mostly record and mix with headphones as a result. And I love the videos. Great job!
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 5 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to try facing the setup the other way around so that the window is in front of you and the family room is behind you? That might be better for acoustics, though slightly worse for sound transmission within the house. This way you could treat the corners behind the speakers pretty significantly, and not worry too much about the reflections off the glass. Hope that helps! -Justin
@R-timmy
@R-timmy 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Justin, I would absolutely love to make those panels... but there's an information out there that the fiberglass can be harmful for your health as it hangs in a room where you breath every second. However, those can be just myths. What do you think about that from your experience?
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 4 жыл бұрын
To my understanding, once they are covered with cloth, the fiberglass isn't really going to get airborne and shouldn't be a threat at that point. While you are building the panels however, there is some risk of skin, eye and lung irritation, and wearing gloves, goggles and mask to build them is probably advisable to avoid this. I could certainly see how there could be real health risks if you built panels day after day for years with no protection. But this can be mitigated with proper protection when doing the work. Hope that helps!
@pauljohn5584
@pauljohn5584 5 жыл бұрын
Justin, awesome video- great information. This topic is so often over looked by recording enthusiasts. I know this is not supposed to be a plug for any particular treatment companies (different story for the speakers) but I HAVE to know why "Acoustic Fields" isn't mentioned. They take a very, for lack of a better word, superior stance on this subject. Is it because their prices are so high? Or simply because you aren't familiar with that company? I ask because you are very knowledgable and your opinion on this matters to me as far as investing in treatment. I hope you find the time to respond to this. I love the videos and podcasts, thank you for sharing your knowledge.
@JustinColletti
@JustinColletti 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Paul, I’m not familiar with the brand. I’ll have a look. Thanks for the pointer!
@rb032682
@rb032682 4 жыл бұрын
@paul john - Yes. Acoustic Fields doesn't get the recognition it seems to deserve. I DO think their prices frighten people, initially. Also, Acoustic Fields is really not geared for the home/bedroom studio part of the pro audio scene. I did buy 8 pieces of Acoustic Fields 2-inch foam and it sounds like what Dennis had claimed. I can't really justify the expense of the carbon units for myself. I'm not doing any kind of commercial, for profit, recording. I'm just having some serious fun. Using a variety of "wools", I have gotten my low frequencies somewhat under control and it is a lovely thing. My room sounds so good, I never want to leave it. Seriously, even if I'm not listening to anything on my system, I want to be sitting on my couch. One thing which Acoustic Fields often mentions. Their products have a predictable performance and are guarantied to do the job. There aren't many mfrs. making that type of claim.
@pauljohn5584
@pauljohn5584 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I got the DIY blueprints on a flash sale so I can make their diffusers. One day in the future I'll buy their carbon pellets to build one of the carbon absorbers. Impressive company. No BS
@rb032682
@rb032682 4 жыл бұрын
@@pauljohn5584 - Are your DIY diffusers functioning as you had intended or envisioned? How many did you build, and where did you place them? I know, too many questions.
@pauljohn5584
@pauljohn5584 4 жыл бұрын
RB no, I don't mind at all! You are literally the ONLY person that cares enough to ask, so I love it. But I'm still in the middle of the build- soooo much wood to cut. But I'm doing two of the QD-17s side by side on my rear wall behind a couch in front of a window. And then I'll probably do 2 QD-13s and 2 QD-11s for my side walls on the way back. I'd love to do more but it's definitely time consuming and tedious. So that's my plan as of right now. I will most definitely report back when they are finished, in place and I'm enjoying the fruits of my labor. Have you done any diffuser builds?
@slingshotwakeuk
@slingshotwakeuk 5 жыл бұрын
Justin, great video. I'm in need of some help setting up my KRK's. I have x2 7'sG4, x2 8's G3 and x1 S10. What's the best way to connect them? I was thinking 8's with the LF turned down and the 7's running via the S10 sub with LP frequency filter. Or should they all run out from the Sub even though the 8's are the other end of the room?
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 5 жыл бұрын
Generally it's recommended to only have a single point for the sub on that kind of system to reduce potential phase issues, so you would run everything through the sub. That's how it works on a 5.1 surround system, anyway. Sounds like you are running something like a 4.1 surround system? The best bet is probably going to be to run a 2.1 or 5.1, for maximum compatibility with the outside world. For a 5.1 system, you'd use the two 8" speakers at the front of the room and the two 7" speakers toward the back of the room, with one more speaker in front as a "center" speaker. So you have: Left, Center, Right, Left Surround, Right Surround, Sub. When you mix in stereo, you'd mute the Center, Left Surround and Right Surround and just listen to the Left, Right and Sub. So, either add 1 more speaker for occasional surround work, or get rid of two in that room! :) Using two different pairs of speakers at once for a stereo setup is generally not recommended, because you don't have appropriate crossovers for all the drivers, and the possibility of phase issues and frequency smearing increases, potentially leaving you worse off than you were before! Hope that helps! -Justin
@tiagocunha9600
@tiagocunha9600 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! Thank you so much!
@geraldbrown9279
@geraldbrown9279 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I could do diy but I’ve had a stroke, it’s difficult for me to do this. But I’m glad that monitors are smart and they can tell me what’s what’s.
@JeffGrahamPhotography
@JeffGrahamPhotography 3 жыл бұрын
Justin is excellent.
@AlexKahl
@AlexKahl 4 жыл бұрын
just thought Trent Reznor explains how he built his studio :)
@cdauterive1
@cdauterive1 9 ай бұрын
Joe, are you saying that ceiling clouds should be 6 inches or 4 inches?
@mcsweet1966
@mcsweet1966 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video
@ngl750k
@ngl750k 16 күн бұрын
is all this still recommended if you're just going to use a pair of studio monitor for listening to (any) music? i have the same krk rp7 with presonus studio 24c (not mixing, recording, mastering, etc just listening/streaming music from different platforms)
@thegoodgeneral
@thegoodgeneral 4 жыл бұрын
Justin, how do you feel about the health concerns of using fiberglass installations? If the fabric covering it is airtight, then it acts as a reflective surface and doesn’t absorb sound anyway; too loose and then fiberglass particles can become airborne and affect your lungs....
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 4 жыл бұрын
You don't have to worry about that too much. The kinds of fabric used over rigid fiberglass insulation is tight enough to keep all of the fiberglass where it should be, and porous enough to be acoustically transparent at basically all frequencies within the range of human hearing. They're not really reflective or too porous to have have fiberglass floating around in actual practice. Hope that helps! -Justin
@C--A
@C--A 3 жыл бұрын
GIK acoustics use the safer ECOSE manufactured fiberglass. And as long as your careful don't bang the panels about before hanging them up. Very very low chance of much of the fiberglass coming loose. And if any it would be minuscule no damage to health in the short term or long term.
@TheAaronSerfaty
@TheAaronSerfaty 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man, thank you for this info! Super helpful!! I built my own little studio but I’m having problems with 150hz. Every time there’s a low D (Bass or piano), the room gets blasted with a huge peak of frequency! Any idea on how to solve that? While recording I just eq that freq down, but it doesn’t help my mix
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 3 жыл бұрын
Very common problem. Fortunately, 150 Hz is pretty well treatable with broadband absorption. Start with 6 inch panels hung in the corners of your room, and it should be effective that low and improve things considerably. If the issue is in your speaker playback, then hen EQing the recording wouldn’t help. EQ and your monitors could help a little bit however. Some thing like Sonarworks SoundID Reference can help you do that in an intelligent way. I’d start with the room treatment, and then add something like that on to improve things further. Improving speaker placement can help too.
@paulwalsh6734
@paulwalsh6734 4 жыл бұрын
Hi. where might i find out more info about making tuned bass traps? studied a bit years ago. was looking at various densities of rigid fibre glass panels. they give specs for noise reduction in db but nothing about mass/resonance for particular frequencies i may want to treat
@BradleyGagne
@BradleyGagne 3 жыл бұрын
Do the bass traps in the corner need to go from top to bottom? Also, I have a window and closet in two corners of the room. How would I fit the bass traps with that set up?
@FullContactDrummer
@FullContactDrummer 3 жыл бұрын
I want a more live room for recording drums. That my studio's main use, so diffusers are probably what I need to focus on more than absorption.
@DaleSteadman
@DaleSteadman 3 жыл бұрын
Great info, thanks!
@ractheproducer8485
@ractheproducer8485 5 жыл бұрын
We say hay from Cuba 🇨🇺
@zioprati2
@zioprati2 4 жыл бұрын
Everything mentioned has to do a listening room. Is this room not for recordings or is it possible to do both in the same place?
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 4 жыл бұрын
All of these tips will work great for a recording room too.
@RealHomeRecording
@RealHomeRecording 5 жыл бұрын
People who listen to music for free don't deserve better quality recordings!
@rb032682
@rb032682 5 жыл бұрын
@RHR - Good point. 👍
@MiDnYTe25
@MiDnYTe25 4 жыл бұрын
Lol imagine paying for music in 2020
@antonyharding5360
@antonyharding5360 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent advice, love it love it, love it.. Thank you Regards Antony Warrington England..
@davidlorentz5480
@davidlorentz5480 3 жыл бұрын
Man I love all your vids. Articulate, informative without clutter. Great job! However, I had to pause this one and tell you the unnecessary camera switching is a distraction & a bit annoying/nauseous for me. It’s one thing when one is showing different angles of a piece of kit etc but I think you believe you are making it more compelling & interesting, you’re NOT! You already have all that in the bag by just talking straight into one cam. FANTASTIC channel & AWESOME content but plz at least do the cam switch “less” if you insist on doing it at all. Thanks m8 & keep up the great work as your one of the best on the ‘tube!
@mcsweet1966
@mcsweet1966 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, I saw some of those Diffusor but with more of a Art design VS something like yours that look more of a calculated design is there a big difference and can we find a calculator for Home Made DIY project.
@darrenkeiran
@darrenkeiran 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, what surface is best to place studio monitors on
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 4 жыл бұрын
Ideally, good monitors stands, with something to decouple them from the monitor stands. Foam is sometimes used, but better still are products that use neoprene or something like it. The Iso Acoustic Pucks are really nice for this, but there are other good options too, some of which are less expensive. Hope that helps! -Justin
@darrenkeiran
@darrenkeiran 4 жыл бұрын
@@SonicScoop I have mine sitting on my desk, so if I placed foam underneath them would that act the same
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 4 жыл бұрын
That would be an improvement from just sitting on the desk for sure. The nice thing about speaker stands is that they are also more decoupled from the floor, and there aren’t big flat panels to drainage along with the speakers. That said, plenty of people place speakers on a desk with totally workable results. Good speaker stands are just the ideal.
@darrenkeiran
@darrenkeiran 4 жыл бұрын
@@SonicScoop thank you for your advice, you have been very helpful
@BigGuns2024
@BigGuns2024 Жыл бұрын
so the build up happens with directional low freq? seems most treatment only does down to around 50hz
@ferethere
@ferethere 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much bro!
@alexischino6293
@alexischino6293 3 жыл бұрын
I don't get how to situate in the corner the Bass Trap of 6 inches with the air gap of 6 inches too. Because for example, when you put the panel of 6 inches across the corner (like "normal") there's still an air gap, because of the shape of the panel, there's a "little" triangular air gap by default. That confused me on how to consider to mount the panel with 6 inches of air gap Should I build a panel like the one you showed, with the frame 'wider' (frame of 12 inches deep) so there's 6 inches of roxul or fiberglass and the 6 inches left, So I mount the panel in the corner (like "normal") together with the wall, doesnt matter what up with that triangular air gap by default haha there's going to be a correct panel mounting or if not I'll appreciate your response thanks
@stormshadow2k
@stormshadow2k 4 жыл бұрын
A link to the EQ part of this series?
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for alerting us to that. We've added it to the description now: ►Watch Part 3 EQ kzbin.info/www/bejne/p2GVanV3e9GmrpI
@stormshadow2k
@stormshadow2k 4 жыл бұрын
@@SonicScoop Thank you kindly. Love the content on your channel, instant sub.
@kwk-r7x
@kwk-r7x 3 жыл бұрын
why do I need treatment for studio speakers and not for external pc speakers? I just got krk rokit 5s for my bedroom because they have front ports, but the eq is really off, where as the pc speakers that connect to my laptop via a 3.5 cord sound totally fine, no "reflections" not that I can hear anyway
@abhidmusic7819
@abhidmusic7819 3 жыл бұрын
Great information 👍👍
@ggrunau
@ggrunau 3 жыл бұрын
What about 2” thick foam panels and traps?
@pabloelguera1161
@pabloelguera1161 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! My celling is 8 foot from the floor, and my main issue in my room right now is at 100 - 200hz . Is it ok to mount a 2" lets say 4" away from the celling? I know there is a compromise but that 100 - 200hz region is so anoying. thanks
@Acujeremy
@Acujeremy 4 жыл бұрын
So in a room like the one you showed in that overhead view, if you were to record drums, where would be the best place to put the drums?
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 4 жыл бұрын
Walk around with a floor tom and a drum stick and hear where it sounds best. That's probably a good spot :-) But the principles would be similar to those for finding ideal speaker placement. You would likely look to center them along the vertical access in a smaller room. (In a larger room you might now.) But you'd be looking for the same kinds of things when it came to distance from the rear wall. Hope that helps!
@Acujeremy
@Acujeremy 4 жыл бұрын
@@SonicScoop Thank you but can you explain where the vertical access of the image of the room shown in this video would be? Also, should drums always be tracked on a wooden floor and would a carpet over the wood to keep the drums still be ok? Thank you very much!
@jpruggieri
@jpruggieri 4 жыл бұрын
Are diffusers recommended for small spaces? I have a fully treated 13x13 box room
@ROQSTAR
@ROQSTAR 3 жыл бұрын
Simple corner treatments (for bass) and acoustic panels above the desk can go a long way.
@bortfeldtlloydmsc6860
@bortfeldtlloydmsc6860 2 жыл бұрын
This is great
@Lambda_Ovine
@Lambda_Ovine 3 жыл бұрын
I heard that curtains are a great budget way to acoustic treatment a room, is that true? how would that work?
@shan5445
@shan5445 2 жыл бұрын
Dampens reflections puts the music back in the room
@rickyjordan31
@rickyjordan31 3 жыл бұрын
Are the GIK Panel colors in this video Burgundy or Deep Burgundy? Thank You
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 3 жыл бұрын
Good question! I can't recall, but they are the custom "Guilford of Maine" fabrics you have to spend a little bit extra for. I THINK deep burgundy. My rep there was Mike Major who can probably tell you for certain. But I'm sure it was the premium GoM fabric, and I'm pretty sure it was the deep burgundy. Hope that helps!
@rickyjordan31
@rickyjordan31 3 жыл бұрын
@@SonicScoop Thanks buddy...appreciate it. Your videos are great by the way
@ABCarmand
@ABCarmand Жыл бұрын
What is wrong with an overly "deadened" sound due to sound absorption?
@stupendousmusic4190
@stupendousmusic4190 3 жыл бұрын
How about the ceiling?
@Larsbor
@Larsbor 2 жыл бұрын
How many turns did you do on that chair ?
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 2 жыл бұрын
Too dizzy to count. -Justin
@youkounkoun2
@youkounkoun2 4 жыл бұрын
Are the diffusers and bass traps randomly placed in your room?
@jacobsmith1877
@jacobsmith1877 4 жыл бұрын
No they are specifically placed based on acoustic treatment theories. Sidewall absorption is strongly recommended to absorb primary and secondary reflections from the speakers. He also has front and rear wall diffusion absorber panels to absorb mids and scatter highs.
@youkounkoun2
@youkounkoun2 4 жыл бұрын
@@jacobsmith1877 hello Jacob. Thank you for your answer. Why absorbers are not placed on the rear wall. How do you absorb low freq coming from the rear? We often only see diffusers on the rear wall iso bass traps/absorbers.
@jacobsmith1877
@jacobsmith1877 4 жыл бұрын
youkounkoun2 rear wall diffusion helps the rear wall to "disappear" by tricking our brains to not be able to tell what direction sound is coming from in the critical mid range where our ears are the most sensitive at locating sound source direction.
@youkounkoun2
@youkounkoun2 4 жыл бұрын
@@jacobsmith1877 ok. thank you very much. fyi: my audio set up is located in the attic. Only 2 walls are parallel and I have a peak around 280Hz and 50Hz.
@J3unG
@J3unG Жыл бұрын
EZ tips on how to improve your room at the lowest cost possible. 1.) mollify (soften) acoustical waves in your room by hanging things up on the walls that diffuse the wave bounce. YOU DON'T NEED TO PUT FOAM UP TO DEAL WITH THIS 2.) make the walls as uneven as possible by hanging stuff up, making false, uneven sides to defeat standing waves and 'too much' echo. How much is too much echo? I don't fucking know. Whatever sounds good. 3.) tips on what to hang: pictures/artwork, banners/flags, plants. 4.) corners for bass traps. put some soft foamy shit in the corners of the room (floor to ceiling) to keep bass from resonating and bouncing from the corner into your monitoring area. foam rolling mats for exercise are good for this. buy two or three of them per corner or put a plant in the corner. 5.) make sure you have at last 2 meters of space from your speaker array to your ears to permit low frequencies to be perceived from your monitoring position. this is key. your lows won't sound right if you don't have this. why? 20Hz sine wave generates fully at 1m. 2m gives you space to perceive it in front and in back of you on the Z-axis. you don't hear it; you feel it in your ankles, hips, knees, shoulders, wrists. psychoacoustic. 6.) get a nice rug for your floor to minimize bounce and give you a cool vibe to your room if you only have wood floors. That's it. That's a nice 'natural', organic generally neutral listening/mixing AND mastering space. People who put way too much thinking in their room are doing it for nothing. People will enjoy your music on fucking cellphone speakers, their car stereo or consumer quality 2 channel speakers from their $300 TVs from walmart. The 'precision' acoustic monitoring environments is a myth perpetuated by the twats from NARAS and and music gear clowns to make you feel bad about what you have. That there is a PRO WORLD and you're not part of it. Here's the thing: look for great artists who write good music and who have real talent and stick with them. It is THEIR MUSIC and TALENT that will take you to your highest potential. Music production is not a solo event. It takes a group of people to realize music production and if you have a keen sense of art and couple it with your interest in technology, then you have a chance at being one of the geeks who are elevated to legendary producer status. BTW...you want a great producer to listen to: Phil Ramone. Anything he did was truly magic AND he got hooked up with great artists of various genres.
@danielkisel5661
@danielkisel5661 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video, but if you use too rigid fiberglass then going thicker like 8" panels won't help much with absorbing lower bass, because its air resistance is going to be too high and the sound will bounce back and won't get absorbed and turned into heat, simply won't go full depth into the acoustic panel, so it won't use all that extra thickness. If you want to effectively absorb frequencies below 100Hz, 90Hz, 80Hz even up to like 40Hz with broadband absorbers, you should actually use that fluffy fiberglass (or foam) that has approximately 5 kPa*s/m2 and make panel at least 12" thick, or even more like 15" thick.
@raelemmanuel6912
@raelemmanuel6912 3 жыл бұрын
What are some examples of materials you would recommend that adhere to the specifications you’ve listed?
@k9nevienna
@k9nevienna 4 жыл бұрын
Good and informative video, thank you. But I couldn't stop laughing when he said Rokits are the best sounding studio monitors
@shan5445
@shan5445 2 жыл бұрын
I just put a blanket on the wall and i instantly got bass in the room and that slap echo sound disappeared. I can hear frequencies in the room. Playing songs sounds much better. Just by using a blanket.
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