Sonic LAB: Novation Peak Part 1 - Osc and Filter

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sonicstate

sonicstate

7 жыл бұрын

The first part of our look at the new Novation Peak - hybrid 8 voice poly synth. We look at the New Oxford Oscillators and the analog filter.
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@justinkinter8651
@justinkinter8651 5 жыл бұрын
Lmao. The auto subtitles kept saying "wow" when you were doing the filter sweeps
@lasideasfugazes
@lasideasfugazes 3 жыл бұрын
Well, synths can talk too. That's nothing new xD
@skyshaver6622
@skyshaver6622 7 жыл бұрын
This is the first new synth that has impressed me in years. Good work Novation.
@johnadams5489
@johnadams5489 5 жыл бұрын
The combination of 3 fully capable Hybrid Oscillators. 24Mhz DAC's. and a great sounding analog filter that produces gorgeous harmonics, provides a robust sounding synth. With 60 wave table setups, now 4 LFO's in addition to other sound shaping features on the Peak make this synth a major league player at a really fair price, considering what you get for your money. We don't have to spend 3, 4 or 5 thousand on a synth with a KB anymore. Even for us old people that are not rolling in the money, this synth is not out of reach.
@dankclegg
@dankclegg 4 жыл бұрын
15:27 Nick predicts the Summit! Well he said maybe a "Twin Peak" will come later, but he was on the right track.
@slipknotboy555
@slipknotboy555 7 жыл бұрын
That ending patch was great as always. I was even more glad to see (the first part of) your review up than normal, because this synth is amazing. Novation has done an absolutely fantastic job
@enlnh
@enlnh 7 жыл бұрын
I love your videos and all your catchy descriptions of things! Singsong harmonics!
@solaryzer
@solaryzer 7 жыл бұрын
Looks like a very capable synth and hours of fun !! Thanks for demo , look forward to part 2 .
@ewanstefani
@ewanstefani 7 жыл бұрын
really like multi part reviews.. allows more time to go into depth on these complex instruments
@BTsMusicChannel
@BTsMusicChannel 3 жыл бұрын
It seems to me that this synth goes from zero to crazy very quickly. Thanks for zooming in on the menu while you tweak it!
@seppoinnanen5929
@seppoinnanen5929 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent interview, thanks a lot! The maschine itself sounds deep and versatile
@TehSpudz0r
@TehSpudz0r 7 жыл бұрын
Love that ending tune/patch, very inspiring!
@SonnyBrown1965
@SonnyBrown1965 7 жыл бұрын
Ooooh really liking how this sounds. It's got that something that sets it apart.
@mrlargo7067
@mrlargo7067 2 жыл бұрын
I call mine "The Jack of all Trade" the most versetile poly synth ever made, very user friendly. easy to learn basic synth tweaking with loads underneath when it comes to modulation. One of those synths you keep because it's just so good at so many things
@kgbinfo
@kgbinfo 7 жыл бұрын
"The menu system, which does feel a bit menu-ey at times". XD still cracking up over that one.
@SPAZZOID100
@SPAZZOID100 7 жыл бұрын
Kenny Bressler menus suck.
@blakecasimir
@blakecasimir 7 жыл бұрын
Not when there's a dedicated button for each menu. Novation have done that on all of their Nova synths, the KS, and here. It makes it SO much easier to find deeper options that it barely feels like "menu diving".
@TheJonHolstein
@TheJonHolstein 7 жыл бұрын
It has pages in some cases. So there is menu diving in it. However, at least compared to the Deepmind patches can be built without ever entering a menu. But that would only offer a fraction of what the synth is capable of.
@kgbinfo
@kgbinfo 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the extremely literal replies. I just thought Nick's phrasing was great.
@leNotstrom
@leNotstrom 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome video from an awesome synth! Thank you!
@ParalysedGekko
@ParalysedGekko 7 жыл бұрын
"...but then...let's just bring up the other oscillators!"
@ScottAdair
@ScottAdair 6 жыл бұрын
Another lovely review, thanks Nick
@MrLawrence0071
@MrLawrence0071 5 жыл бұрын
Of all demo's I heard, being the Prophet A, B, C or Z, I love the Peak the most of all new beasts! Wonderful!
@halcyondaystunes
@halcyondaystunes 7 жыл бұрын
Great part 1 and would be good to see multiple videos on reviews like Mr Doty does...and congrats on the 100K subs Nick
@RobertSaintJohn
@RobertSaintJohn 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for demoing Diverge and Drift, just wonderful
@Sensenwerk
@Sensenwerk 7 жыл бұрын
Gadan, the FM section + wavetable is what does it for me. Uff, very tempting... Great review, comme toujours, Nick!
@DanielDavissynthman
@DanielDavissynthman 7 жыл бұрын
Really nice sounding. I dig it.
@Angelstarscotland
@Angelstarscotland 7 жыл бұрын
I really like the sound of what I'm hearing so far :)
@elliotdavidson7137
@elliotdavidson7137 7 жыл бұрын
i want one.. think this has to be bought. It sounds like the most exciting synthesizer ( in my budget) since the older Waldorf Microwaves. Lovely reverb, distortion and a lush analog filter too. . Well done Nick. Thanks for the 1080p im keeping an eye on those hairs on your head :) :)
@andreasheinakroon2617
@andreasheinakroon2617 7 жыл бұрын
I must admit, it does sound good.
@javiceres
@javiceres 6 жыл бұрын
Competition keeps putting out synths but I feel this sounds as good as the best of them.
@videosuperhighway7655
@videosuperhighway7655 5 жыл бұрын
Wow you can get some funky sounding bells and clangorous sounds out of this. Impressive. Sounds great on my Genelec 8341 monitors :)
@Wagoo
@Wagoo 7 жыл бұрын
100K! Hurrah!
@spooky_zoo
@spooky_zoo 5 жыл бұрын
Would still love to grab that closing patch. Gorgeous!
@Psychlist1972
@Psychlist1972 7 жыл бұрын
Sounds fantastic
@lukepalmer4200
@lukepalmer4200 7 жыл бұрын
It sounds amazing! In particular that last sound you played. If I wasn't getting the DSI Rev2 I'd have been tempted!
@detonation2000
@detonation2000 7 жыл бұрын
What makes you not tempted? Rev2 doesn't seem to be a better instrument. Just different. And from what I can tell, this one might be more versatile. I have both on order and will decide soon which one to cancel.
@lukepalmer4200
@lukepalmer4200 7 жыл бұрын
I really like how both the Rev 2 and peak sound but for me it's a no brainer only because I don't have a large midi keyboard and the rev 2 has a 5 octave keybed. I also like the fact I can always retrospectively upgrade to the 16 voice without the need to resell the current unit I have. Peak sounds great but I am looking for a more self contained instrument is all!
@churchofaggressiveaudio6498
@churchofaggressiveaudio6498 5 жыл бұрын
Good review, as usual! 👍
@MatthewMouras
@MatthewMouras 5 жыл бұрын
This synth reminds me heavily of their engine for the nova. Their new webservice for the Circuit that allows you to create patches online has a lot of similar waveshaping ability. Most of the same oscillator parameters: Vsync, Density, Detune, etc. Filter's sound alike with 12 and 24db slopes. Only two oscillators on the Circuit/Nova, so having that third is nice. I'd sure like to get my hands on one of these. Novation hardware and service is tough to beat.
@MrSpasticdancer
@MrSpasticdancer 7 жыл бұрын
that filter is beautiful
@ElectronicazMusic
@ElectronicazMusic 7 жыл бұрын
What a filter!
@Michael_Smith-Red_No.5
@Michael_Smith-Red_No.5 7 жыл бұрын
My first analog synth was a BassStation. I traded it for a sampler, 20 years ago. Four years ago, I bought a BassStation II, and last year another BassStation. I need this thing.
@blakecasimir
@blakecasimir 7 жыл бұрын
Get a SuperBassStation, too! I have and they sound great. Mix it with a BSII for extra beef! :D
@Michael_Smith-Red_No.5
@Michael_Smith-Red_No.5 7 жыл бұрын
I've been thinking about that, actually.
@Jonathan01ukk
@Jonathan01ukk 7 жыл бұрын
Great review! Can't wait for part 2. Peak looks like a cheaper Prophet 12 but with knobs?
@daftmoonz9395
@daftmoonz9395 6 жыл бұрын
Korg are bringing out the Prologue it uses two VCOs ! No word on a module version though so Peak is still at the top of the list.
@Mark_Ocain
@Mark_Ocain 6 жыл бұрын
Nice pedigree...I'm totally ok with hybrids as long as there are heaps of knobs to twiddle :-) No point being an analogue or Digital snob when you are missing out on great sounds !
@jeremymurray-wakefield8011
@jeremymurray-wakefield8011 6 жыл бұрын
"Chris Hugget is... a fairly smart bloke" LMAO :-)
@steveironside390
@steveironside390 7 жыл бұрын
looks great...
@e-conrecords4665
@e-conrecords4665 7 жыл бұрын
Ever since I bought my Poly 800 back in the mid 80's, I've been dismayed at the lack of synthesisers that allow different VCA envelopes per oscillator. It's good to see more synths being made now that are incorporating this into the architecture as it adds an extra layer of complexity than can only be achieved otherwise with stacked / multi-mode sounds.
@MaverickM1
@MaverickM1 4 жыл бұрын
Novation is making progress, it is clear to see. Already Mini/Ultranova was great synth and Peak is a big step forward into the right direction. Then we have Summit which is more than 2 Peak built in a single unit. Damn Novation I have to win the lottery asap! :D
@eluherlu
@eluherlu 7 жыл бұрын
That reverb is epic
@alyeska4226
@alyeska4226 5 жыл бұрын
Routable filters with fx modulations !
@specialsnowfake6744
@specialsnowfake6744 7 жыл бұрын
sounds ace
@BosseCory
@BosseCory 7 жыл бұрын
"Maybe a Twin Peak".
@MrLawrence0071
@MrLawrence0071 5 жыл бұрын
It's called the Summit ;-)
@mikeexits
@mikeexits 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrLawrence0071 Twin Peaks is better :P
@12hackermacker21
@12hackermacker21 7 жыл бұрын
very nice sound coming from digital oscillators!
@TheOrganist007
@TheOrganist007 6 жыл бұрын
Good synth, sounds a little bit like the dw 8000, but more punchy and massive
@Dangerousdaze
@Dangerousdaze 12 күн бұрын
A "Twin Peak", eh? Prophetic!
@endermusica
@endermusica 7 жыл бұрын
I'd like to add a question for the sensei Nick because I don't seem to find anything on it, will this have any kind of DAW integration? I think every company should do something similar to Elektron's Overbridge to stay in sync with modern times and ways of making music.
@michaelbauers8800
@michaelbauers8800 6 жыл бұрын
This appears to be an interesting and cheaper alternative to Prophet 12, which can pull off some similarly complex timbres. I think there's some advantages of the P12 over this, and they are hardly the same thing, but have some similarties.
@thevanishingsaxon663
@thevanishingsaxon663 4 жыл бұрын
Nick "Wobbly Knobs" Batt giving another amazing review.
@narudh
@narudh 7 жыл бұрын
would like to hear the drift on saw and square for how it fares as analog emulation
@rhampton1914
@rhampton1914 6 жыл бұрын
I know you love PCM,,,,i love LFO especially Synced to Midi Clock..Does this have a Sync function in the LFO area? i didn't see that...That's a must for me..
@shawnsaul7759
@shawnsaul7759 7 жыл бұрын
I have a Ultranova... can anyone come in and compare it with the Peak? I've been thinking about selling it and my minibrute for Peak
@javierzubizarreta2933
@javierzubizarreta2933 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Nick, could you do me a favour? Can you play an init patch, just a sawtooth, from high notes to the lower ones? I suspect this synth suffers a common digital oscillator syndrome, that is that it sounds darker as you lower the notes... thnx! great review!
@indiefilmcomposer
@indiefilmcomposer 6 жыл бұрын
5:30 lovely. worth the price of admission
@rishabhrajan
@rishabhrajan 7 жыл бұрын
Actually the main sine is a wavetable too.
@MrBothandNether
@MrBothandNether 4 жыл бұрын
17:00 "Lost in Synthesis" -by N. Batt
@jonasleothunberg
@jonasleothunberg 2 жыл бұрын
That patch at the end was wonderful, is it available somewhere?
@fortheloveofnoise
@fortheloveofnoise 5 жыл бұрын
Quick question Nick, how do you get the waveform up on the screen?
@ooktar
@ooktar 7 жыл бұрын
"I'm not going to go through all the wavetables. I know you want me to." Well yeah seeing as that's the main reason a lot of us are interested in this.
@Zinfidel1
@Zinfidel1 7 жыл бұрын
one of them sounds like this: BZZZTRRRZZ [repeat] Another one sounds like this: WOOOOHHAWOWO [repeat] And I'm guessing another one sounds "chime-y"
@TheJonHolstein
@TheJonHolstein 7 жыл бұрын
I think you have to do your best to convince Mark Doty to do a review if you want that. In my opinion this offers a lot more than just wavetables, and at this stage they seem to be very scaled down versions of wavetables. So it you are looking for a real wavetable synth, this is not the one. If you are looking for a good sounding hardware polyphonic subtractive synth, with a lot of hands on control, this might be the one.
@ooktar
@ooktar 7 жыл бұрын
+Jon Holstein, it's not that I'm looking for a wavetable synth. It's that the wavetable oscillators in a subtractive synth setting interest me more than the standard Sine\Pulse\Sawtooth analog affair. In that sense I would've liked to have heard all the wavetable sounds currently on offer.
@phanuel_1986
@phanuel_1986 2 жыл бұрын
@@Zinfidel1 lmao
@robertsyrett1992
@robertsyrett1992 7 жыл бұрын
We are taking the AutomaticGainsay approach to this I can see :)
@TheJonHolstein
@TheJonHolstein 7 жыл бұрын
Not quite =( And I doubt he will touch it as it isn't an fully analog synth =(
@markwilliamson6884
@markwilliamson6884 7 жыл бұрын
Nick - I notice you've stopped using your CME of late. That nektar controller also looks nice. It would be really interesting to see a quick video on your direct experiences with midi controllers (not a review or anything - just the stuff you've used)
@Heathcliff_hensel
@Heathcliff_hensel 7 жыл бұрын
mark williamson alot of people were complaining about the noisy keys on the CME. I dont know if thats the reason but i kept reading that in the comments.
@sonicstate
@sonicstate 7 жыл бұрын
yeah that was one of them, plus this is a poly, so better to have more keys, which the Nektar does.
@hostnik777
@hostnik777 7 жыл бұрын
But no aftertouch? Or only channel aftertouch?
@feelmytool
@feelmytool 7 жыл бұрын
jmacatx poly aftertouch.
@AFinalForm
@AFinalForm 7 жыл бұрын
I did the exact same bass face at 8:54 while watching
@KirkMonteux
@KirkMonteux 7 жыл бұрын
Is there no osc panning alter by each note?
@goaway2174
@goaway2174 5 жыл бұрын
On the final patch at 17:34 Nick says he has a separate VCA envelope for each of the three oscillators. Looking at the controls and modulation matrix as well as the Peak user guide, it isn't clear how he achieved that. The way it is described in the manual it appears that a common amplifier envelope is used post mixer for all of the oscillators. Is he just saying the gain value for each oscillator in the mixer is different and he effectively scaling the same envelope to perform differently on each oscillator? Thanks!
@DTime
@DTime 4 жыл бұрын
Normal Env Depth on zero (=OSC1), both OSC2 and OSC3 level at 0 in the mixer. Mod matrix: ModENV1 > Osc2 LEV (63 for max. level) and ModENV2 > Osc3 LEV (63 for max. level). Now change the MOD ENVELOPES at your convenience :-) Took me some time, but I did like to know howto too.
@lemonslice2233
@lemonslice2233 7 жыл бұрын
It really is the peak. The question is, what do we do now that we've reached the peak? Do we need someone to raise the bar, so there's a new peak to be reached?
@RothmanHarv
@RothmanHarv 7 жыл бұрын
The dual modulation on the filter reminds me of the Wasp a bit.
@franciscojaenvelazquez9582
@franciscojaenvelazquez9582 3 жыл бұрын
This Synth is a very good piece of hardware
@tB3o3tR9o9
@tB3o3tR9o9 Жыл бұрын
built like an tank
@MrKail
@MrKail 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Nick, how would you compare the Peak to the Virus TI2? Can the Peak´s FM get as gritty and powerful as the one from the Virus? Otherwise they´re both quite similar in terms of modulation possibilities, format and price range as far as I can judge. I´d like to buy one of those 2 as soon as I have the money :D Cheers
@serfasleep
@serfasleep 6 жыл бұрын
Kilian Kayser I love my Virus.
@yavamaystudio8045
@yavamaystudio8045 2 жыл бұрын
Virus is out of that range, not comparable with anything else. Is Mercedes of all synth.
@charlieaydin1377
@charlieaydin1377 5 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna get one of these. Sounds too good and too versatile
@johnadams5489
@johnadams5489 5 жыл бұрын
I just checked Sweetwater.com website and they have the PEAK as a TOP SELLER. THAT is impressive. Sweetwater is NOT the low price company to deal with, but they DO have impressive Value Added benefits for what you pay. An additional 2 year warranty over and above the mfg warranty. They have knowledgeable sales people and their tech people are top notch. Sweetwater is a reliable company, they stand behind what they sell. The Peak does sound massive. My next synth will be the Peak. I like having 3 full feature Osc, instead of two, that can be wimpy.
@angelesk9382
@angelesk9382 5 жыл бұрын
how do you make the sound at the end? love that, sounds blade runner
@bcm3643
@bcm3643 7 жыл бұрын
This synth does nothing for me to this point but the complaints about the price are laughable. It's a quality hardware synth. The Supernova II base model that I still have and love was $2995 (16 years ago - $4100 in today's money!), the JP-8080 I still have was $1295 (19 years ago! - $1930 today). These are all digital and surface mount technology. Just because some companies make disposable crap for $500 doesn't mean everything has to be $500 and trashed within 12 months.
@WildernessMusic_GentleSerene
@WildernessMusic_GentleSerene 6 жыл бұрын
I live in extreme poverty, a true starving artist, all my synths are under $500.00 including Casio, none are disposable, all dependable and very useful. Been using synths for 30 years, organ and piano for 50 years. All my synths are digital, hence maybe the dependability and longevity.
@jan-martinulvag1953
@jan-martinulvag1953 5 жыл бұрын
@@WildernessMusic_GentleSerene no content channel
@WildernessMusic_GentleSerene
@WildernessMusic_GentleSerene 5 жыл бұрын
@@jan-martinulvag1953 Jan: Don't know what you mean or asking???
@johnadams5489
@johnadams5489 5 жыл бұрын
Eric Archman Ha! The Prophet 5 retailed for $4595 in 1979 and would be $15000 in today's dollars. I bought a Prophet Rev 3.2 in 1981 and paid $3200 dollars plus 6 percent Sales Tax. I got a bank loan to buy it! Paid on it for years. The good new is I still have it, it still works fine and still sounds great. Its simple compared to the capabilities of today's synths, but what a sound!
@elektrogeist
@elektrogeist 5 жыл бұрын
Peel the sticker off that LED screen, you monster!
@halcyondaystunes
@halcyondaystunes 7 жыл бұрын
Would have liked to see it multi timbral....The original Supernovas were 8 part and they had more polyphony too, 20 expanded up to 32 if i remember correctly....for the Supernova 2. Sounds lush though.
@kgbinfo
@kgbinfo 7 жыл бұрын
Seems like the complexity of sound available in this machine makes using multiple sounds per patch redundant.
@SPAZZOID100
@SPAZZOID100 7 жыл бұрын
halcyondaystunes 48
@paultorbert6929
@paultorbert6929 6 жыл бұрын
profile name is a killer song..... still.
@Fluxwithit
@Fluxwithit 7 жыл бұрын
Sounds very nice , does the filter control have 14 bit or just the 127 steps?
@beatnickPL
@beatnickPL 6 жыл бұрын
127 steps? that would be ridiculous
@daftmoonz9395
@daftmoonz9395 6 жыл бұрын
Control for the filter is 8bit.
@Tjoppy
@Tjoppy 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting to see 'synthesiser' on the bottom right of the machine in stead of 'synthesizer'.
@synct
@synct 6 жыл бұрын
It's good to spell things correctly...
@Mario-pq9bi
@Mario-pq9bi 6 жыл бұрын
8:46 classical dnb music face ! :D
@ThomasMYoutube
@ThomasMYoutube 7 жыл бұрын
4:50 Interpretive poly-synth hand dance...
@snurkergerm6168
@snurkergerm6168 7 жыл бұрын
Does seem nice. What makes it different from the competition in this price bracket - the Wavetable oscillators?
@sonicstate
@sonicstate 7 жыл бұрын
Three full function oscillators
@snurkergerm6168
@snurkergerm6168 7 жыл бұрын
Yep. Nice. Maybe you could even even load your own wavetables. No noise anywhere?
@kiko1935
@kiko1935 5 жыл бұрын
So it's kind of like a way more advanced Korg DW8000?
@FaidedBTB
@FaidedBTB 3 жыл бұрын
That’s what I was thinking
@troypointerphotography
@troypointerphotography 2 жыл бұрын
Nice Video but what is the Name of the Keyboard ? Troy
@sebastianreimann9914
@sebastianreimann9914 7 жыл бұрын
it reminds me a lot on my old Novation K-Station. Kind of like an updated version with more modern sounds and added wavetables, but very similar in architecture and circuit design.
@Geardos1
@Geardos1 7 жыл бұрын
wow the waves and lack of aliasing is really impressive.
@zugo360
@zugo360 7 жыл бұрын
Hey sonicstate you said you can KeySync the oscillators (6:13). Can you also change the phase of the waveform? (startingpoint of the waveform) Great video! :)
@sonicstate
@sonicstate 7 жыл бұрын
Not that I can see no
@bigeasternsyndicate6933
@bigeasternsyndicate6933 7 жыл бұрын
What I want to know is, when will it ship? Please, Sweetwater, charge my credit card already!
@ZethKeeper
@ZethKeeper 7 жыл бұрын
Hey, Nick, how did you connected Impact to Peak? Does Peak have a USB MIDI input?
@sonicstate
@sonicstate 7 жыл бұрын
No, just a MIDI cable. Impact LX88 has a MIDI out
@kentxx12
@kentxx12 7 жыл бұрын
Wow that sound at:08:45 Diggit :)
@BrunoWiebelt
@BrunoWiebelt 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you again. My question of today: Is it right to say that with this new oxford oscillators , one can emulate de Buchla sound in a polyphonic setup?
@MattGreerMusic
@MattGreerMusic 7 жыл бұрын
At 6:45 Excitebike engine rev sound.
@josephfelice601
@josephfelice601 6 жыл бұрын
Anybody notice the noise floor on their unit?
@daftmoonz9395
@daftmoonz9395 6 жыл бұрын
update it and back off on the VCA gain so the amps aren't hit too hard.
@Wagoo
@Wagoo 7 жыл бұрын
0:45 is this confirmation that Roland ACB is FPGA based, then?
@leNotstrom
@leNotstrom 7 жыл бұрын
Roland ACB is DSP based.
@myst6866
@myst6866 5 жыл бұрын
Tween Peaks Synth coming soon..
@AlainHubert
@AlainHubert 6 жыл бұрын
The sawtooth is missing high end content. Needs more sizzle.
@paulinho9396
@paulinho9396 4 жыл бұрын
Once again, I thought the peak was a pretty boring synth, until i watch Nick's review!!
@CaptJackAubreyOfTheRoyalNavy
@CaptJackAubreyOfTheRoyalNavy 7 жыл бұрын
Ugh I wanna peel off that screen cover so bad!
@jhdrummer4815
@jhdrummer4815 7 жыл бұрын
The synth seem very promising to create sounds, but I would like to hear also a demo of the presets, because to me what does it counts is to have (and try to make) beautiful sounds. I'm not a wizard at programming sounds, so a decent presets bank is important to me.
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