Sonix vs MkLeo - Ultimate Singles Top 8 Winners Semi-Final - Genesis 9 | Sonic vs Pyra/Mythra

Bandits FC Sonix (Sonic) vs T1 MkLeo (Pyra/Mythra) - Ultimate Singles Top 8 Winners Semifinals - Genesis 9
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[@Starling2100]

When MKLeo is 2 games down, but there’s still 20 minutes left of the video

[@AshenDemon]

You already know the vibes 😎

[@HiFive99]

MkLeo timing out Sonix is the best timeline

[@illford]

I mean that doesn't sound unreal. I feel Leo the kinda guy to tine someone out if he needed to

[@Liam-dt4nm]

Lol yeah

[@haydenbennett3547]

@@illford its not that he wanted to, he just couldnt close the stock in time. He had to stick to Mythra at his current percent because Pyra lacked the frame data to close it out.

[@devinroi3886]

Probably the second time he did this

[@haydenbennett3547]

And lets be real, ALL sonic players tend to run out the clock intentional or not because they always Steve their way to the other end of the stage whenever theyre in disadvantage

[@hmmmmmmmmmm_]

Achievement unlocked: Time out sonix

[@heikorudiger3258]

cheese the cheeselord

[@user-lq4ct6dr5m]

Hardest Achievement beside survive Game 4 Leo and choke against Cosmos

[@312bigbeanburrito]

@@user-lq4ct6dr5m survive game 4 Leo and choke against Chokemos

[@leoncruise]

Everyone will remember this run for the Joker, and rightfully so, but Leo’s Aegis got him over a huge hurdle this tournament

[@acekingdom5050]

It be like that. When he wins tournaments, they usually are remembered for Joker or Byleth, with that Aegis against Sonix or a Pikachu in there somewhere. Also don’t forget about that Rob against Min Min

[@gabrielcross1062]

Yeah no other Leo character beats Sonix. Aegis has the right tools for the job, mixed with his insane adaptability

[@acekingdom5050]

@@gabrielcross1062 Actually I think Leo’s beaten him with Corrin before. I don’t know if he’d still be able to do that though (then again he’s MKLeo)

[@gabrielcross1062]

@@acekingdom5050 yeah I don't think Corrin's do it now. Leo would need more time to lab. And Sonix has been elevating these past 5 months. He's so good now

[@mercurysnake274]

@@gabrielcross1062 Lowkey I still think Corrin does fine against Sonic but Aegis does slightly better, so it makes sense for Leo to use them over her. Plus, his Corrin’s been out of practice afaik, unlike his Aegis

[@Michael-cg5qn]

Leo giving sonix a taste of his own medicine by timing him out was poetic. Sonix shot himself in the foot for that one

[@Vuden13]

🤓

[@Michael-cg5qn]

@@Vuden13 seems like more people agree with what I have to say than you lol. Sonix isn’t gonna fuck you for defending him

[@massilyar341]

Why u guys always so rude to sonic mains

[@big_c3426]

@@massilyar341cause watching sonic waste 7 minutes instead of actually being paying the game is boring

[@Gran_Ove]

Mkleo is capable of reverse anyone, so never let him go to game 4 Leo.

[@samshapira8295]

Legitimately one of the best sets of the year so far. Watching MKLeo adapt is so insane.

[@eddiequincy3053]

Game 4 Leo is so good, Sonic gets timed out by HIM

[@flowgix6427]

MkLeo timing out Sonix is the best thing I've seen in a smash tourney in a while

[@Exceed_HS]

Is this the first time Leo has ever Reverse 3-0’d with Aegis? I’ve seen it with Joker, Byleth, AND Marth but not with Aegis

[@chakonleung8675]

Sonix overall weakness is Aegis

[@mv2664]

@@chakonleung8675 his only weakness are good players*

[@brendenlim2158]

@@mv2664 like gluto and spargo

[@mv2664]

@@brendenlim2158 yep, like in coinbox, ludwing invitacional and let's make big moves were spargo beat the shit out of him with just one game droped.

[@brendenlim2158]

@@mv2664 yep, like in genesis 9 too!

[@r1pperduck]

Sonix was switching his playstyle so fast the second leo switched to pyra or mythra, well played to both and great adaptation from leo to close it out.

[@ukit8623]

There were actually times where I felt like Leo switched to Pyra specifically to bait sonix into closing the gap, then switched to mythra for the frame data in the scrap lol

[@Xxblade17]

Fr this was a great set from both

[@rie442]

I respect sonix for knowing his character. I don't know anyone that changes their playstyle/tempo as well as him. At the same time, seeing Leo completely download him was so satisfying.

[@SanzoArts]

being campy and running away and going in with spindash nonstop isn't really a change of playstyle/tempo, it's the same tempo because spindashing on shield is crazy safe

[@Take_this_please]

@Paomaru tbf, that's Sonics win condition on the whole roster. Works damn well too, so you can't blame Sonix that his characters moveset is effective, no matter how boring it is to watch. Leo is Leo tho lmao

[@rie442]

@Paomaru thats not all he does lol. Granted that's what he mostly does but that's him knowing his character. He knows when to change from being campy to aggressive. Watch his set vs spargo yesterday

[@Eis7]

I can respect that but it kinda sucks as a spectator to watch him play when a decent amount of his matches nearly end time-outs because it consists of running back and forth.

[@ZATCHBELL2007]

@@rie442 With sparg0 he was playing defensively and sometimes camping (lose the first round when he was in the offensive) the difference here was that he has less confidence against mkleo, so he tends to stay away with the neutral B, instead of staying closer to counter like with sparg0

[@momojishu]

I don't know what happened there in game 3, but Sonix just started obviously panicking. He had a comfortable lead and just started dropping everything he tried and then not trying to reset neutral or get a better position. He just went full steam ahead trying to get the kill and it lost him this set.

[@thegoldenb7280]

There was this one instance in game 3 where all he had to do was drop spring to edge guard but instead instead went deep offstage for no reason. Had he had done that he would’ve had a 3 - 1 stock lead and most likely would’ve beat Leo.

[@nguyt9039]

plot armor 🙌

[@Xxblade17]

He talked about it on stream he could have got the 3-0 but he messed some kills and he hate that he did that

[@JackOLanter]

What a way to destroy Sonix.

[@andrewjacob1789]

I noticed Leo seemed to be more comfortable with mythra in neutral obviously bc of her speed but the switches to pyrha whenever he got good positioning were legendary. He may have incorporated a bit of spargos idea/playstyle from lmbm

[@hemankhouilla2795]

No hate on Sonix, but man how good it is to see Sonic loose, in such a way

[@frostyflame0774]

I know sonix was pissed that he didn't have time to bring it back but if he hadn't spent it stalling. Hard deserved timeout from Leo

[@t1darluy55]

26:11 Damn, this interaction was so disrepectful from Leo. Just GOAT things

[@t1darluy55]

I mean side b out of nowhere

[@HerefortheHorns]

Sonix and 20+ minute matches, name a better duo

[@inked9361]

Mkleo doing time out... I like it 😈

[@ethan9593]

Sakurai really captured the quality of your average sonic game while crafting the gameplay for this character

[@mrharvy100]

Leo timing out Sonicx is karma at its finest.

[@TheFamousLoser]

Hell yeah. I love it when the clock turns against Sonix.

[@sebaschan-uwu]

I like how everyone was at the edge of their seat waiting for lightning buster but leo just went and did a flimsy fair

[@SanzoArts]

35:07 minutes on a Bo5 Jesus Fking Christ, I though this was grand finals with a reset but then I remembered sonix's super cool campy style

[@rizvan1632]

tf? He wasnt even camping

[@bsmccrunner4]

@@rizvan1632 he is camping. He just moves a lot so it disguises it

[@rizvan1632]

@@bsmccrunner4 MkLeo does the same thing

[@mv2664]

@@rizvan1632 mkleo was agressive in the last minute of game 4 even when he was the one with advantage and don't need to do that... This set is this long because of sonix's campy style, stop trying to justify or minimize that...

[@rizvan1632]

@@mv2664 You have no idea what you are talking about

[@quirynx7912]

After that 2-0, Leo knew that he had to respect spaces much more lol 😂

[@therockafella6319]

I’m not the first person to say this and I definitely won’t be the last, but god damn man even in top 8 it just feels like a waste of time to watch Sonix play. Legitimately the only high level Ultimate I don’t want to watch. At the end of the day respect to the dude for doing what he needs to do to win but it’s frustrating as a fan and spectator.

[@ShionfromYT]

This Genesis is filled with so many *upsets* because I know no one predicted this!

[@grimxdisstracks3178]

Best part is when sonix said “ it’s sonic time” and called Leo a sped kid and ran away. 0:29

[@TheWatchmanOfTheEnd]

Sonix gameplay so lame he times HIMSELF out. don't @ me

[@TheWatchmanOfTheEnd]

@@splaturials9156 nah Sonix is good he's just lame to watch lol

[@TheAvenger1171]

This is the battle of preparation vs adaptation.

[@Simon-hs7ik]

why sparg0 shouldn’t have switched to cloud:

[@randumo24]

That was really quite stupid. Cloud is awful against Sonic. That final game was the epitome of why you don't play Cloud against Sonic.

[@deleonfountain8220]

“Sonix is different cause he’s the most aggressive sonic” doesn’t make a difference if he still reverts back to camping and being obnoxious with spin dash. Do what you need to do to win but damn that shits boring as hell to watch

[@funx24X7]

Welcome to McLeo's, we serve hot combos all day

[@mau7564]

All Leo's matches in the channel have at least 50k views, except this one lmao people really don't like Sonix

[@villalobos3005]

Leo my boy 💪🏻🌶🌮🪅🇲🇽

[@worldsboss]

Seeing Sonic played aggressively is really satisfying

[@mv2664]

In sonix's set against spargo were many comments of sudden sonix "fans" saying how hype he is for beating spargo and many others saying that he is not hype because of his history doing stall and "fans" denying or trying to minimize that... wellp, game 4 was the only hype one in this set and of course was because of leo's having advantage and still looking for interactions instead of stalling when there were a minute left... i was watching m2k stream durning this set and he was saying that leo was loosing the first 2 games for being impacient, and that was true, sonic is not the problem with that guy, is his horrible playstile, i would like to see how sudden sonix fans try to justify that time out at game 4...

[@plabcentral630]

Bro I know. Guy got fans because he didn’t camp somebody out.

[@itsyaboijay073]

Tbh I don't think sonix was playing campy on purpose this game. Sonic normally looses the mu against pythra because of their frame data and how mythra can keep up with sonic. Sonix was respecting the space pythra can cover cuz if u play too aggressive, they will route u and destroy you so sonix was switching his playstyles whenever Leo switched between pythra. He gets more openings against pyra but looses most of those openings against mythra Edit: damn I talk too much 😅

[@mv2664]

@@itsyaboijay073 wellp, so he wasn't playing campy against gluto too (a losing matchup for wario)? he plays campy everytime, no matters at all the matchup

[@rizvan1632]

@@mv2664 Do you even know what a losing MU is? It's only a losing MU if you play the MU correctly which is camping.

[@Akubyo]

@@mv2664 You are clinging on to this game 4 for dear life to justify your blind hate of Sonix, it's pretty sad...

[@Cashmoneez]

Idk why people were so mad about Leo aegis to me it’s always looked so OPTIMAL

[@mercurysnake274]

People were mad because he was trying to commit to them as a full time main a few months ago, I think (like around summit and stuff). I think now that he’s keeping them around solely as an answer for Sonic, people are less mad (Except for Coney but lol). I do actually really like his Aegis as well though. His Joker is stylish, and his Byleth is explosive, so it’s kinda nice to have a character that he plays more straightforward and efficient

[@jackdow9973]

am i just watching aegis timing out sonic lol

[@mrsunshine8347]

Im a simple man. I see sonic, I skip to the last round. 35 minutes?? Nah.

[@EmoryIllustrated]

God the commentators really annoyed me during this set Singing Sonix praises as an "aggressive Sonic", when they don't realize that Sonix is just trying to gain a lead so they can camp. Then saying "foresight is useless against Sonic" when MkLeo uses it again and again to get into Sonix head.

[@MiLoW-fp]

Sonix makes me lose testosterone just watching.

[@jamesonojor2717]

The true highlight is Coney almost beating Mario 64 during this set

[@MrLag525]

I think both of them played well. Both Sonix and Leo are insanely good players.

[@burnpisces7733]

It’s so funny to me that sonic is the character known for slow boring games.

[@DarkShadowJedi]

Perfect revenge for LMBM 😈

[@JonnyJayKhan]

1) I cannot believe people call this Sonic's worst matchup, STEVE has worse matchups 2) Leo's Game 4 and 5 download was INSANE 3) Leo has played two majors this year and played Joker, Byleth, Marth, Aegis and ROB in bracket. And he's won with them all

[@WingSlaze]

Sonix is so consistent with the edgeguards, even when Leo was mixing up wow He might be top 5 edgeguarder

[@corgitoergosum8400]

Leo won the tournament from here.

[@BikiniSSBU]

Hey guys where can I download the MkLeo apology form?

[@NonRandomUser]

26:11 Nairo probably got PTSD (emphasis on 'SD' lol) from all the times Cosmos side-B'd into oblivion when this happened.

[@T.O.Wallee]

It’s so satisfying to see sonic lose and even better from leading 2-0 to 2-3.

[@romeocotrufo1103]

ok wallee T_T

[@SanzoArts]

Mkleo just "better player"'d all over sonix's campy face

[@matiascamposg]

>being a Sonix fan >enjoying good edgeguarding to2-0 MKLeo :D >sees duration of the match :(

[@ArtFromHer]

If only he played more aggressive

[@nyukjustacommenter857]

To be fair, sometimes when someone starts reading you more and has downloaded your playstyle, you get scared to bust out your biggest options because it goes from "I use this to help me in neutral" to "If I use this it'll probably get stuffed..."

[@illford]

Sonix played good but Leo can use the boost when he needs it

[@icamefromspacexD]

Notice how nobody cheers for sonix. Absolutely nobody LOL HAAAA

[@Bankai2169]

ItS fUnNy PeOpLe HaTe SoMeOnE bEcAuSe hE PiCks SoNiC... That's so goofy...

[@ManusMeridiem]

Weirdo energy with this comment.

[@YamchaSama-Z]

@@ManusMeridiem Definitely. Hating a video game player for playing the game in a way that you don't find enjoyable automatically means said video game player is a piece of shit. Weirdos.

[@Bankai2169]

@@splaturials9156 ok so that makes laughing at him because no one cheers him alright in your book? SMH that’s goofy

[@lazygenius3139]

People actually did cheer for him pretty loud idk what you're on rn lmao

[@raulvega.]

Lo merecía, cansa ver partidas con este tipo de jugadores. Bien por hacerle time out.

[@blackstab3913]

Wait, isn’t Rob a decent matchup against Sonic? With the projectile and nair he can match the sonic corner camping right? Still glad he got to stand his ground and do it with Aegis

[@_teem_]

the one guy in the crowd "lets go sonix" lmfao

[@janswhatsupdoc]

1:26 the fucking crowd singing to animal crossing

[@gagegrogan4352]

Yo WHAT a GREAT game bro 😮forever the 🐐 sry for spoilers but if ur here before watching it’s ur own fault

[@nellismygirl]

Thank you Leo for getting rid of Sonix lmao

[@ArtFromHer]

It’s not that serious…

[@user-ci8cd1xn6d]

ソニックスがゲームとった時会場冷え冷えなの草

[@elizabethllenn1067]

Camping simulator and Leo is cooking

[@Kyle-ps4me]

sonic is cringe

[@Ale-rm2zk]

omg ZZZZZZZZonix is so boring to watch

[@vdreezus]

THE FUCKING MAN BABY

[@carlosmeza1967]

I love it when sonix gets reversed

[@yummi9915]

Sonix Cringe

[@YamchaSama-Z]

Shut it, femboy.

[@ohianaw]

I popped off when he got that dair confirm

[@bsmccrunner4]

Satisfying to see Sonix lose. His gameplay style is so annoying. Seems like he wouldn’t be good with any other character

[@NightRaven5568]

Yayyyy MKleo beat Sonix! fuck Sonic in smash

[@juanoshigeru]

26:12 that had to be a missinput haha

[@ashlar0649]

Leo is the savior of smash

[@sonicff7]

Cosmos would've ended this set at 32:45 frfr LOL I screamed when Leo got that nair bro But its all good, team fundies holdin it down

[@sagegang6957]

Cosmos would have gotten 3-0d tbh

[@Secarstra777]

@@sagegang6957 nah fr 😂 what is he saying

[@TehWhiteTiger]

Sonix is the most infuriating player in Smash. Not simply because of how he plays, but because he is actually a really good player who doesn't need to sink that low but chooses to anyway...

[@davishmayo1643]

Okay

[@Whatnoww]

Sink that low... You guys are literally intolerable 😂.

[@davishmayo1643]

@@Whatnoww he’s acting like he has some moral high ground here…

[@EliTheGleason]

Sonix is rad fight me

[@LegoAsterisco]

1:50 i spy some TD's on my man sonix

[@juanoshigeru]

18:39 an owl got into the venue D:

[@chuxnorris919]

Is timeout Sonic really the optimal strat? Maybe I don’t understand something, but wouldn’t going full aggro or bait and punish with a character this fast, who does this much damage per combo net EVEN better results?

[@rizvan1632]

It depends on the situation and MUs. Sonix rarely times people out anyway it's just that the gameplay is usually slow because committing for both players is really scary

[@frostyflame0774]

I mean approaching tends to be such a big issue because his spin dashes have high priority and I-Frames so it's almost to impossible to safely approach without baiting him out first. It's definitely a lot better to wait him out since as long as you have the lead, he can't wait for you with spindash charge and he has to actually go to you

[@Alliat6364]

It’s a scary mu for Sonic since aerials beat out spin dash and Pyra’s dair combos into kill at pretty low damages. MkLeo capitalised on this multiple times during the set. Also I don’t think I saw camping in this match like some comments have been stating, just patient play from both players.

[@lilgary3468]

Dominicano arriba 🎉🇩🇴sonix

[@Secarstra777]

18:38 crowd at war with one another lmfao “Let’s go sonic!! Who??”

[@dende_ult714]

I know people will hate this cause im not blindly hating on him for no reason but Sonix is crazy bro, he has been grinding like crazy since the smash 4 days. Good shit to both of them

[@illford]

Bro Sonix has become my goat over time, i just respect his grind and ability to do what he needs to do

[@lillem404]

Exactly man. He plays Sonic so patient and safe and I feel that’s what makes it more enjoyable and optimal. Sonic is made as a fast ass character story wise and gameplay wise known to go in first without regards for safety. Sonix chooses the right timing and options for punishing. To see his style of Sonic shine is very refreshing tbh

[@albertshen1904]

The thing is Sonix isn’t even that campy. His game plan depends on the matchup and it’s usually the optimal strategy. Everyone just hate him because of stereotypes of sonic.

[@ManusMeridiem]

A lot of haters out here. These niggas always go on about how much he is camping even when he isn't camping.

[@mv2664]

People don't hate sonix with no reason, ken is also a sonic player and the amount of haters are not even comparable, even in his set against gluto they ended game 3 in almost a time out because of sonix and gluto kept being agressive just as leo do in this game 4 last seconds

[@birthbysleep24]

COSMOS would have done it killed me lmao

[@Kowjja]

I'm so glad Sonix eventually took that first game, that would have been so unfortunate if he didn't because of his stock donation

[@beesemurger2267]

Forrrrrma De Leooooooo!!

[@A-kids_store_open]

pyra lov

[@rang2111]

sonic = cringe

[@banzai1783]

Fuck yaaa leo!!!! I love him winning with my girls

[@haalamn877]

plot armor too strong lmao

[@mrtree1368]

Lmao you gotta be high to think mkleo gonna loose with a fresh stock and the opponent is over 110%

[@jacintorobillos1804]

33:35 Sonix shaking his head will never not be satisfying.

[@Typnonet]

I love seeing Sonix lose. Can't stand sonic gameplay

[@talesfromthemidwest]

good

[@americanraptor2428]

leo should just change his pronouns to just "him".

[@plugwalk594]

@@splaturials9156 average splatoon fan

[@americanraptor2428]

@@splaturials9156 you the joke

[@nikkobird590]

@@plugwalk594 no I'm pretty sure an average Splatoon fan would have pronouns lol

[@A_Shut-in_NEET]

yessssss gtfo here sonix

[@randychavezjr6050]

I hate Sonic the character, what total BS

[@TehWhiteTiger]

I always thought sonic was the most poorly designed character in Smash but seeing homing attack miss makes me realize his design is a perfect embodiment of the average glitchfest that is a sonic game.

[@randomreaver4644]

I have to wonder at this point whether or not Sonix likes the Aegis match up

[@corgitoergosum8400]

he forced himself to like it because he believes as long as he spindashes at the side of the ledge like a pussy there's no mu he can't win. sonic players are such grimelords LMAO

[@corgitoergosum8400]

imagine actually being able to claim ur char loses no mus and ppl have to accept its possible cuz he's designed that poorly