Sonos VS Sonos - which is REALLY better, cheap or expensive? | The Gadget Show

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[@kabysummit5801]

Even without a sub, the Beam with surround speakers did really well. Now with Atmos in Gen 2, and the eARC equipped TV prices well within reach, the combo is even better. Time to pull the trigger happy shopping!

[@shane-o-matic]

Beam and One SL pair owner here. I recently moved and found my experience much better in my new place. In the old place, the living room was more an open concept with the kitchen and breakfast area. The new place has a more true rectangular shape with four walls (3 3/4, to be precise). I feel like the surroundsound setup in general is really meant for a four walled, rectangular-shaped room as opposed to some open concept. The open concept sounds just kind of wash out into the distance even when you calibrate it using the app. I do feel like I need the sub now to improve it. What are your thoughts on hearing the dialogue? I feel like the dialogue sometimes is too low but then when the sounds of explosions and rumbles come in, they’re extremely loud. I’ve had to adjust the sound levels on the surround speakers in the app in order to arrive at what I feel is the best sound. Overall, I am fairly pleased with the system. I think we all have to be a bit realistic here. It’s not like we’re running diamond series speakers from a Dreadnaught-D.

[@r0ll0ry]

You should point out that the sound tuning app is iOS only. If you use an Android you're out of luck and will not be able to use this ability (or you you'll have to borrow a friend's iOS phone). Irritating, but it makes sense. Android phones are made by a variety of manufacturers so their speakers and microphones vary, which makes the sound results harder to predict for speaker tuning.

[@aggaviriyo790]

4:53 that opened door played quiet a big part on why the Arc didn't sound as good. Remember, it works by bouncing sounds off surfaces then to you. So an opened door like that would just swallow up the sound that you're supposed to be hearing bouncing off of it

[@mrgold3591]

I did Sonos Beam, Gen 3 Sub, and two One SLs on the office 55C1 LG OLED and Arc, two Gen 3 subs, and two Fives as rear surrounds the main TV room LG OLED 77C1. Both systems seem to compliment the listening space perfectly.

[@Master-mm1dm]

If your gonna do a comparison, you should either do both soundbars without rear surrond or both soundbars with rear surround speakers. It's seems totally pointless & unfair comparing the two soundbars when your test is loaded by adding surrounds to only one setup when both systems are compatible with the Ikea surrounds upgrade.

[@jessem4659]

they're comparing the price point so I think it's a fair real life comparison.

[@TheCesarOrlando]

I agree with Jesse. I was actually researching if it would be better to purchase Sonos Arc or Sonos Beam + 2 symfoniks, so this video was exactly what i was looking for.

[@1881Gordon]

I'm inclined to agree with both Master and Ronald Ramakers. Whilst it is True that the Price of the Arc = Roughly the price of the Beam, plus price of the Surround speakers combined, they're not really comparing like for like...The title of the video is also flawed.

[@grahamvaughanstevens]

Agreed…. Then you would know you should choose the arc and upgrade to dual play 1s for surround later on if you budget only stretches to this initially…..

[@nkt1]

The Arc has additional drivers and Atmos technology which is supposed to simulate surround sound without the need for rear speakers. I think the comparison is reasonable.

[@craigrapp9469]

I’ve had both the beam bad now the arc. If you can afford the upgrade it’s very worth it whether it’s the full surround setup or just on its own.

[@DWilliam1]

If you hooked up the ARC with rear speakers it would blow the Beam away. The Sub would solve any bass issues.

[@tonyhilliarduk]

In my main living space I have a Bowers & Wilkins 7.1 setup which is awesome. I bought the Sonos Beam and paired it with a couple of old Sonos 1s for the kitchen not expecting too much but the quality for the price blows me away. Also the Beam is so much more than just a sound bar. With Google assistant and Spotify connect I now use it more than my main AV system. Well done Sonos.

[@lowshots5305]

You should‘ve baught a „works with sonos“ avr and a sonos connect ;-)

[@petermartinaitis8166]

How can you hear something from behind when the sound is projected from the front ?

[@mauritja00]

You can connect other speakers to the arc as well, and if you don't want to do that a good way for the sound to bounce off the sides it would be a good idea to close the door

[@junkano]

I got the arc, sub and two symfonisk lamp speakers

[@futbol1972]

I have a play 5 in my garage man cave. In living room I have a sub, sound bar and two play 3s. Also have two play ones in kitchen. I also have the sonos move and the roam and move thoese randomly. My question is for my living room set up for movies, sports and regular TV and also music is it better to pair up two play ones or two play 3s with sub and sound bar? Or should I place the two play ones in living room two with rest of speakers?? One more question, when watching movies can I pair up the sonos move and roam with existing living room set up or no??

[@richardstevens5961]

The first question to be asked should be “Does the tv output eArc or only Arc? Because without eArc or an HD Fury Arcana there won’t be any Atmos signals passed through to the Sonos.

[@HypeCheese]

Atmos will pass through on arc via DD+. It’s not lossless but that’s what streaming services use as a format anyway so acceptable for most users.

[@sambora83]

Please, the link of the two speakers connected to the beam..

[@_od_7825]

You can link the Symfonisk speakers to the Arc for the full surround sound experience. If you’re getting the Arc then it’s probably worth doing. The. There is the sub, which is very expensive but apparently worth it for the full experience, especially with the Beam.

[@raggarbosse3207]

Sub gen3 is almost the best part of the whole system. Once you get it you can never go back.

[@fredhollis3749]

Would you rather have Symfonisk or SL?

[@_od_7825]

I have both. The Symfonisk seems to have more bass but sounds really good. The 1 is maybe a bit clearer and sounds excellent. I’d be happy to interchange them though. The original plan was to get a couple more Symfonisk for the living room, but it wasn’t going to work with the layout. I have the lamp speakers, by the way, not the ones in the video.

[@fredhollis3749]

@@_od_7825 thanks for the reply. Really helps to have first person actual experience report. I have the SLs now on trial period and had been considering passing on rears until upward firing rears become produced by Sonos. Now further complicated by I have to check out price point and styles of Symfonisk

[@RichardNutman]

You should not be moving the phone around the entire room, around curtains and such like to calibrate. Just like Audyssey, you should just focus on the seating areas. Making the system compensate the speakers for positions no-one will sit in, will just confuse the eq'ing and be detrimental to the audio.

[@1881Gordon]

100% Correct. This will screw up the True Play results.

[@MH5tube]

it depends on how much the Sub Mini will cost but I think pairing it with a Beam is probably better than an Arc all by itself

[@Laptopdog78]

This is not a beam v arc test though!! You have added surround speakers to the beam! You can add surrounds to the arc also! The surrounds speakers that you have added to the beam will confuse some people of the real comparison!! And as others have mentioned, not one point about needing E-arc for the Dolby atmos effect on the arc......I will not be subscribing to this nonsense!

[@manuzark]

you have a point, but I think they are playing a little with the final budget of the system, a Beam + the symphonisks cost less than a single Arc, and they are compare that.

[@Laptopdog78]

@@manuzark Look at the title of the video!.........cheap Sonos v expensive Sonos.......Arc v Beam......Stupid test when they put surrounds with the beam......I now have no idea of arc v beam standing alone against each other........waste of time!!

[@1881Gordon]

It may be mentioned elsewhere below, but the presenters did not state whether the Beam was Gen1 or Gen2? I suspect Gen1. They should have tested the Gen 2. This model would have given a better effect since it supports Dolby Atmos. Also. Why didn't they test them both with Music Audio?

[@emppaa1995]

Really good review, I myself have a beam + symphonic that I will probably try to supplement with a sub in the near future. Does anyone know where the TV bench is from?

[@strasburger2]

It really is a comparison between pretty good and really good. You definitely get a better effect with speakers that are actually surrounding the room. If you’re $800 (in the US or £800 UK) deep into the ARC, you may as well invest another couple hundred to add the ONEs or S1s and make it an actual surround system even if you have to add them later on. The SUB too. Also, I’ve installed hundreds of these for my Clients over the years- from the PLAYBAR to the BEAM and ARC- and the only time I’ve ever had lip sync issues was with cable boxes. Never from the TV itself. The solution was always to change the sound format from “surround” to “stereo” or even down to PCM in the cable box settings. Better to have good stereo sound and simulated surround than to have mediocre surround quality from a cable box with horrible sync.

[@Andrew-vt7mi]

FYI, Fire TV Stick now has an onboard AV Sync tool that gives a lot of wiggle room in both directions to resolve sync. I had snyc issues before, fiddling with that tool resolved it 100%

[@ryanackerman9866]

It’s not really a fair test as you had rear speakers when testing the Sonos beam but you never used rear speakers when testing out Sonos arc (you can add rear speakers to Sonos arc). This isn’t giving you a true sound or fair test if you don’t add it to the Sonos arc

[@zoltanmiklos7213]

I bought the beam, then the arc, then the surrounds SL ones and lastly the sub woofer. The beam is a good speaker for its size. The arc is good but comes alive with the sub woofer which takes the load off the arc. We watch a lot of television so trh surrounds were the best addition in my view followed by the sub. Redo this test with a sub to see the difference.

[@bjornrombaut4660]

I have had a full Sonos system in the past with the Playbar, Sub and 2 Sonos One SL. It was a good system but I felt the sub lacked in terms of true power. I mean, it's a great addition but it just wasn't enough for me. I now have the Bose Soundbar 700 with the Sub 700 and that really is on another level in terms of bass, there is honestly no comparison. Whereas the Sonos Sub had difficulties making my room shake, the Bose sub does it with ease. No offence to Sonos however, they're still making quality products.

[@coryo617]

I had the bose 700 and returned it in a week. now have the arc.in my opinion arc is just better all around ..the gen 3 sub and surrounds make it that much better.

[@benjani4143]

The Arc is a beast and would look daft with the size of tv we have on the wall. The beam is perfect especially linked to the £750 Sonos base unit.

[@Prhebbar]

Can anyone tell me where that tv stand is from?

[@DK-vc2me]

What's better in an open floor plan room? Sonos Arc or Beam? I just got a new Sony Bravia 77" but honestly I don't currently watch much TV; I don't want to break the bank just for the occasional movie or music station. Thanks.

[@Longpondweather]

It would be interesting to know the set up of the TV ….because as we are aware there are only a few TVs the pass Dolby Atmos through to the sound bar. Most TVs down-convert to regular Dolby . So the question arises …..were you even listening to Dolby Atmos. This is easy to see in the Sonos app under settings you can actually watch the stream and the Sonos app will tell you what version of stereo it is using. Without us knowing what television you’re using and the actual settings on the television It’s impossible to take this test at face value. A quick follow up telling us how the settings were set up would clear this up

[@Scalptrash]

I “upgraded” from the Beam to the Arc and wasn’t impressed. It’s louder and has a wider sound stage, but lower bass and almost zero perception of any height. I think the Dolby Atmos speakers are too small to handle that task on their own. It’s more of a marketing gimmick. Don’t get me wrong though, the Arc is the single best soundbar on the market right now. The Beam is a much better value, however, and no one will be disappointed with it.

[@MrRondonmon]

Not too small, its just a dumb concept to sell products, hell you can take any speakers and place them up high, then angle them down and get Atmos, LOL, they want you to try and bounce sound off the damned ceiling, LOL, that is just dumb as hell. Has anyone ever advertised bouncing a center channel off the back wall? It's so damned stupid it's funny. A good salesman can sell rattlesnakes to mice. It takes common sense to overcome the Handy Dandy salesmen.

[@MrChadder007]

I think there was a firmware update that “fixed muddy bass” in the past few months.

[@PhillipHilton]

I notice no SUB in there. Rookie error.

[@Gurt0981]

You guys forgot to mention a very important thing... were the speakers plugged into a eArc input?

[@heftyfunseeker9987]

Yeah I’m pretty skeptical of some variables in this test. I have both a beam 5.1 setup and an Arc 5.2.2 setup. Both sound great, but the Arc system is much more immersive.

[@jdalsII]

From what I understood eArc is supposed to be only for uncompressed signals you would get from a dvd. The streaming services are compressed and don’t need eArc to be on. I upgraded from a beam and 2 ikea surrounds to the arc w/ ikea surrounds. Both have sync issues no matter what settings I am on. Very frustrating.

[@heftyfunseeker9987]

@@jdalsII you’ll need eARC for Dolby Atmos. Regular arc doesn’t have the bandwidth for Atmos.

[@FlakMagnet123]

@Nicco Unless you use Dolby Digital+ which is a compressed version of Atmos and works over Arc. Of course,the quality isn't as good as the uncompressed version over eArc, but it does work.

[@1blackballed]

This video should have also explained that the speaker calibration only works with apple phones so folks like me with a high end Samsung galaxy S20 can't even use that function and that's a huge difference to sound from what I have seen a the reason I haven't bought one. Also even though my TV is a good one and from last year it doesn't have eArc which again is needed for the Atmos experience....plus like someone else said in the comments the Sonos app gets a terrible review to the extent it makes the speakers unusable at times.

[@obsessivecichliddisorder7258]

Surely you know someone with an Apple device. It only takes one calibration and that’s it, you can go back to using your Samsung. Also the Sonos app is by far the best app for any active speakers on the market.

[@1blackballed]

@@obsessivecichliddisorder7258 I don't actually all my family use android phones and in this day and age of lockdown here in the UK would make it even harder. Plus my point was the video should have made it clear it only works with apple. They said just grab your phone and calibrate and your done. When the majority of people don't have apple phones so they should have said it apple only.

[@Maynza]

If you get a soundbar with lip sync functionality then it resolves those issues that the arc has

[@fabio2634]

Why not also test the basic soundbar + sojos sub? I have the old paybar and adding the sub really makes for a different experience whenever you want to “feel” the sounds and music and not just listen to it

[@MrPantss]

I have both the beam and arc, the arc wins hands down!

[@MrLevrevod]

I bought speakers today. 1 Beam and 4 One S. they should be delivered within a week. Really looking forward

[@kevinwheatley1097]

I’m loving my beam and a pair of SLs.

[@7103sean]

Get the sub with it also pal, expensive but worth it

[@chillimocha]

Do the Symfonisk speakers work with the Sonos Arc?

[@Danne89]

Yes they do

[@Kidsonss]

Does not the Sonos Beam Gen2 have Dolby Atmos ???

[@GOLFADDICT65]

LOVE SONOS...I have the BEAM on the TV up stairs,,,,and on the tv downstairs I have the ARC / 2 sonos sub woofers / and 2 SL ONE speakers ...sounds amazing....cheers from Canada

[@nateschmitz9827]

Is the two subs worth it? It it's not I'll buy one off you 😁

[@PrezidentHughes]

Is Atmos even worth it as a feature if you don't have much Atmos content? What would be a simple 5.1 setup that actually sounds good and doesn't have all that other techie stuff like Alexa, Google, casting features, or having to use an app to get things all synced up? I'm thinking the Sony HT-S40R.

[@heftyfunseeker9987]

Where were the test sources streamed from?

[@linkinruss]

The lip sync is bad on all LG TVs. Known issue with the tv delaying or just processing sound to any externally sourced sound bar.

[@grahamvaughanstevens]

The arc is heaps better. If your budget only stretches to this initially. Get the arc and upgrade to some rears later on….. then a sub…… then another sub 🤣👍

[@aryinc]

do you really need an iphone for the dolby atmos effrect??. never owned a apple iphone and not keen on doing so either.

[@rahuls55555]

It may be that the arc is slightly better but you must realise that, in order te get that great immersive sound, you also need (to buy a new) TV with Arc-E. so the the total price will at least double again.

[@orbitingdecay6797]

No you don't need to buy a new TV, buy the hd fury arcana it was made for non earc tvs and helps sonos lip sync issue.

[@davidvaughan7935]

Why didnt you shut those doors? And its not a fair test because you are not comparing the Arc against the Beam, you are adding in 2 Sonos Ikea speakers!

[@eurovisie2010]

I wonder what the price difference is between the arc and the beam+Ikea's ?

[@art3mis975]

@@eurovisie2010 the Arc costs 800 the beam 400 and the ikea Symphonisk 100 each. So the beam setup only costs 600. I think its a pretty fair comparison.

[@IamY00t]

Sound per dollar It's more than fair. The Beam and Symfonisk is the better buy than a single ARC. I'm still getting the ARC, sub and One SLs though

[@stevepollard7107]

My thoughts too - you can hardly expect the DSP used by the Arc to bounce the sound off the left hand wall when the doors are open. I still think it is hard to beat physical speakers placed around a room though.

[@MrVisde]

For the money, I’d prefer a beam with a couple surrounds. The surrounds also add a considerable amount of bass. The Arc and the Playbar have better stereo separation because of their size, but in a full surround system (with the sub added) I wonder if there’s even a noticeable difference? Atmos seems like marketing hype to me (today’s version of THX).

[@XxxFlummixxX]

ARC and the one connect box from Samsung are not working properly together. I have the ARC and the Beam before. The ARC is a nice upgrade if you have a big living room. My living room has 50sqm and it performs nice with the sub and the One as rears. But the Beam is doing a very good job as well but it is made for much smaller rooms. I can strongly recommend both soundbars. They are really good and worth to test.

[@diggergeensen860]

I get Dolby Atmos through my one connect box Samsung Q90R TV

[@FloppyBurn]

Maybe close the doors next time you work with virtual surround sound which works with walls around you :))

[@Maxation]

It's a fair comparison. £799 for the Arc. £399 for the Beam £178 for the Symfonisk's £577 in total or £467 if you buy the Beam refurbished. Add those surrounds to the Arc and it's double the price of the Beam setup. That said - I need more in depth comparisons!

[@dbagdi1998]

You pay twice the price for about a 30-40% better experience. Just the way it is with most things to be honest

[@leebeeskee]

Her arms are stacked. Very strong.

[@alexanderhugestrand]

I just bought a Sonos Arc, hoping that it would sound as good as everyone says, because it sounded like garbage in the store. Thankfully it did sound a lot better in my living room than it did in the store. And the bass isn't too bad without the subwoofer. I can live with it until I get that sub. But was is all that with the setup process? The beeps and the demo? There is none of that in the app as far as I can tell. Is it my TV that's too old? It has an ARC connection at least.

[@stonep11]

The beeps were the TruePlay audio tuning. The demo was just testing like a “best case”

[@jordanbandura9294]

Bump up eq on beam to bass +8 and treble +3 and it makes a world of difference for bass and clarity

[@davesmith7981]

Very good just got two of those speakers and I fitted them they work amazing you can alter the bass and treble and it is fantastic

[@GIChow]

If you can tolerate a separate sub one can get a much more immersive bass than from either of these with a 2.1 HDMI ARC soundbar..and for £80 btw! No real 3D Atmos positional sound but very deep rumbling but punchy bass that really involves you..with sport as well as movies. Unfortunately seems the Gadget show has become basically a program length sponsored advert for the highest bidder.

[@monroethegreat7539]

First of all you guys should do the comparison between the Sonos Playbar and the Sonos Arc both blow the beam out the water.

[@hometechvids]

It's about a decade old, has no HDMI, and It's not even on sale anymore. Bit pointless to be pushing it on stuff like The Gadget Show.

[@monroethegreat7539]

@@hometechvids The playbar sounds much better then the Beam, I had all 3 including the Playbase, Right now I have the Sonos Arc, I am running 2 Plays 5s and 2 Subs and to be honest as a standalone yes the Arc sounds better, But as far as surround sound with one's and atleast 1 Sub i give the Playbar the egde as far as clarity, Especially watching action movies, Often in action movies the enhance sound wash out the dialog, With the Playbar you can still hear the dialog crystal clear along with explosions from the Surround, Sometimes with my Arc the dialog still gets washed out and thats using Truplay tuning, Yes I agree the Playbar is old but the price is not still $500 dollars for nothing, In my honest opinion the Playbar is still the best Sonos Soundbar in their lineup and I often feel like selling my Arc and going back to the Playbar.

[@hometechvids]

@@monroethegreat7539 yeah but unless anyone wants to risk buying it second-hand it's not for sale.

[@monroethegreat7539]

@@hometechvids Well Amazon sells new but its overpriced lol

[@danielrowe2174]

I just bought a beam and love it . I can't wait for the football season to start this fall. My question is. Would you recommend a sub first or surround speakers as a next step for upgrading my sound system. I thought about saving up for a sub, but I don't know what would benefit with a small living room the is 15 x15ft

[@marijnvanwinden2528]

Get 3 Ikea speakers, and convert one to a sub. It's an easy hack to hook up an Ikea speaker to a existing sub. Great way to get base for a fraction of the cost, and gives you time to save for the real deal.

[@StainedHumanity1]

I have the beam with two fives as surrounds and a sub - the sub is the best addition

[@aaronderyl]

@@StainedHumanity1 aren’t the 5s better off as front speakers? And if you’ve two 5s in the front you don’t need a sub.

[@aaronderyl]

I think with the beam in hand you should now think about a traditional 5.1 as your eventual goal. Two One SLs as a surround rear pair. Two more as front left and right and a sub to complete a 5.1. Place the channels in the corners of your room for a beautiful left right separation that doesn’t exist in the beam.

[@B.Ch3rry]

Glad I got the Arc and Sub before the price increase!

[@bluemy03]

Why not add the rear speakers one SL as an example .. useless comparison really

[@mattjones3257]

I think the whole point was which is better for more or less the same price - the arc without rears or the beam with them.

[@debandmike3380]

this is not an equal review. arc has rear speakers also.

[@hubert12125]

Like Dolby Atmos but Arc is bit too expensive so gonna go with Polka S4

[@JohnKing-lw2sb]

We have the beam, 2x Sonos Ones as rears and the Sonos Sub and its very impressive. I am sure the Arc would be better slightly but not enough to justify the upgrade price for me

[@Master-mm1dm]

I had exactly the same setup & upgraded my beem for the arc keeping my two sonos ones as rears with a single sub. Now I can tell you that the difference with the added extra speakers/amps in the arc & the addition of dolby atmos sound is not just 'slightly better'. it was a massive improvement over my original beem setup. I have now added a second dual sub to the setup & this extra upgrade has taken the whole system to an even higher level. it's almost unimaginable how superior the arc full setup is in comparison to the beem, the two systems seem like they are actually worlds apart.

[@albertofranco5619]

Arc Its a HUGE upgrade, beam is like cellphone speaker next to mighty arc

[@ginger-jc7ti]

Another manufacturer lg I bought a dolby atmos model, had it all set up correct. The sound was terrible and I was so underwhelmed by it. It also keeped kicking in too blu tooth and getting sounds from next door lol. Took it back to currys and got a refund. Sticking with my old Sony dav-is10

[@NielsMF]

Strange comparison, must be identical without the ikea speakers. Also with Sub and without sub

[@shanevan1]

When TopGear get's into tech...

[@rohanadarkar7498]

This is by far the worst review I’ve seen of Sonos products

[@IvanWX88]

Nothing beats physical surround speakers! Atmos is nothing but just gimmicks

[@rokker101]

Sorry but there's no substitute for a separate surround system ... these are just little toys compared to what a reasonably budgeted system would sound like ... if you have the wonga then a full atmos system will blow your mind.

[@chrisrobinson6975]

You guys did a really good job with this video. Really fun and informative

[@l2wrenc2]

Nice review but remember this is not compatible with older Sonos equipment. Sonos want you to throw S1 equipment away which is guaranteed to annoy their older customers. Will they want you to throw your Roam away in five or so years?

[@Master-mm1dm]

The older equipment may not be compatible with the Sonos s1 app but most of the older speakers are still compatible with the newer speakers and can be used with both the beem & the arc. For example the old play 1's, play 3's or even the play 5's gen 2 can be still be used in the s2 app either as surrounds or standalone speakers with either soundbar but they will have to be upgraded 'over the air' to work with the new s2 app. Once the upgrade is completed, the old speaker will work perfectly fine in the S2 app but no longer will work in the older s1 app. Any of the really old stuff that won't work in the s2 app like the connect amp. Sonos have a generous upgrade program where they will give you anything from 30-15 % discount on any new equipment you buy if you trade in your older devices & the best part is after you trade them in, You get to actually keep them & continue to use them if you so desire.

[@Tristan]

Those virtual surround sound speakers never work, it’s just a gimmick unfortunately

[@alihilly1]

Its not virtual sound, its bouncing actual sound off the walls. Its literally not a gimmick. A full Arc setup (rears and sub) is a highly capable setup.

[@Tristan]

@@alihilly1 if you have the rear speakers then fair enough, obviously any setup with physical rear speakers should work great. However from my experience all these companies that claim that their speaker ‘scans’ the room to figure out how to bounce the audio is a gimmick. The speakers within a single soundbar aren’t physically moving to adjust to the room so it can never realistically give an effect even remotely close to one with rear speakers, it simply tries to virtually. This is even supported by the test in this video where the setup with rear speakers, although cheaper, sounds far more convincing.

[@danielcombs1697]

This is like comparing apples and oranges. She has two extra speakers. If you add two Sonos SL one you will blow it away. And if you add the sub woofer, go take a hike.

[@2adamast]

I have just added a subwoofer to my television, not sure a thin soundbars can out match that

[@sveltin1975]

Why just compare beam with two rear speakers to an arc with no rear speakers? That just doesn’t make sense to me!

[@bitnbytes01]

These sound bars are of very good quality, the high to mids are so crisp, the bass is not the best but you can get the subwoofer separately which can knock out a window. I have a Sonos beam and very happy with it but Sonos's new app is the worst app ever, its heavily bloated and tries to do everything and simply is a pain if your have authentication issues; the old app was much better. A another blunder by Sonos is that there is no off button for these speakers, you have to physical unplug it, so it just sits there online all the time. Other than that these are high quality sound bars for the price.

[@diggergeensen860]

Sonos subs are putting out far from window breaking base. They are quite underwhelming compared to a decent traditional powered 12” sub at a comparable price

[@claudiadavies5110]

All I ask is that I can hear what the actors are saying rather than just the loud music drowning out the dialogue!!!

[@AllanFarrell]

I'm willing to bet it wasnt even true Atmos you were getting. If the TV has e-arc there shouldn't be any possible lip sync issues. I'd be more willing to bet the TV only had arc.

[@zeusman5195]

Q950t is better than both it's on a different level when it comes to Dolby Atmos too

[@joekabyemela4240]

You forgot a minor detail... It is also £400 more expensive than the Arc and a whooping £800 more than the Beam

[@ratukamina]

I have been using a Q950A that has 3 drivers for each of the rears. It sounds good but drivers are much smaller than if you added Sonos one SL to the Sonos ARC. From the tear downs I can tell the Sonos are better built products than Samsung Soundbar however the Samsung allows me to take full advantage of my Apple TV 4K streaming Netflix and amazon prime using the best audio available since my Dolby Vision capable TV does not have eARC only ARC and that's where Sonos falls short with no HDMI inputs.

[@chrismonterubio9475]

They are sound bars. They will never give you the sound of a full speaker setup. And for those that say that sound bars are are good for people that don’t have the room, that’s what small satellite speakers are for. Sound bars suck.

[@Kingepticon]

What's up with the granny jeans?

[@orbitingdecay6797]

You need an iPhone for setup as it isn't on the android. Terrible review missing key points. Did you adjust the atmos height for example? The hd fury arcana resolves lip sync issues as well.

[@PoorCoyotee]

I got 2x Fives, Gen 3 sub, 2x Gen2 Ones, so Beam was the best pick just to connect tv and get a some sort of center sound. Great set for the price 👌.

[@ceuser3555]

The lady is pretty and I love her boots!

[@chrisredmayne]

Pretty terrible review, didn't even mention the back speakers were compatible with the arc too

[@taitlawrence]

Why are you reviewing this like the beam comes with surrounds and the arc can’t have them ?

[@mitchellsx]

They should of added some rear speakers to the ARC also to make it a bit fairer.. I have the Sonos ARC and to be honest its a very overrated soundbar. Sonos have gone to much with the looks of the thing rather than the sound quality. Sound on the ARC can sound very tinny and thats even adding a sub and ones to the setup. Also Atmos is very poor its just not got the umph to give you good overhead effects etc., they sort of highlighted in this video that its poor at this.

[@MarlonKingShow]

I miss watching this show. Thanka gang. Its a shame these sound bars are such a high entry price in to cinema with sonos. I think I would swing towards the beam more due to the fact I like separate speakers. But nice to see the review.

[@gamingbear3108]

You can add separate speakers & sub to the Arc as well

[@JesusGonzalez-fn3rk]

I don't know why, but I feel like I'm watching an episode of Frasier =)

[@duramax78]

Do not ever buy sonos unless you want to spend a lot of time re connecting them, the sound is good, but definitely not worth the headaches of the time you have to spend, it almost seems like it’s every time you got company, for the price not worth it, I’ve did everything got a boost, new router, we have hi speed the highest you can get, fibre optics cable. I have play 1s, play 5, and sound bar.

[@trev1801]

So not true , you only telling part of the testing , if you added rear play one`s x 2 and the sonos sub gen 3 it would have blasted you of the sofa , you really did miss out BIG STYLE you gave not a true replication

[@RVDL]

I felt like a total fool with my phone moving around the room to tune the Sonos.

[@spoonie821]

I think the ark was a little unjustified if say you added 2 Sonos one sl speakers with the ark the beam wouldn't stand a chance. Plus furthermore the Ark was built for more home cinema in mind so it also compatible with a sub woofer as was well as the one sl sat speakers

[@Outsidecontext]

I have the arc and IKEA setup.

[@maxxxwel10]

how is it? do you feel you need the sub too?

[@Outsidecontext]

@@maxxxwel10 I’ve bought the sub now, and yes - a definitive improvement. The IKEA speakers are excellent surrounds. Finally, my home cinema setup is complete. Samsung 65inch “the frame” and Sonos sound.

[@nerdynephew]

Real 5th gear vibes here. And I hated that show. They’re talking about new tech, but the presentation feels really archaic compared to everything else on KZbin. Sorry to be mean, but I really wanted to watch this as I’m about to buy both of these devices, but it’s so painful.

[@hometechUK]

Not a true test as majority of homes have their tv in the corner.

[@Rasputin185]

Just a lil thing: put the surround speakers in a 90° angle to your line of sight, they don't belong behind you but besides you :)

[@jamiebarleym4]

What a stupidly uninformative video. Completely paints the ark to be less then the beam. I have the arc, two one sl’s and a sub. Far superior than the beam

[@impatrickt]

wrong

[@diggergeensen860]

The ARC for me is probably the worst product sonos ever put out. I regret buying one and if I knew that is was going ti sound so much worse than my playbar I would have purchased another sub or a couple of 5s instead.