Good information - thank you, it helped to confirm that I was on the correct track. Last month, I went with the 100-400 for several reasons: 1) close focusing abilities is critical for me because I like knowing that during a walk I can get close up shot of objects close to me; 2) filters - I have a sizable collection of 77mm filters which I can continue to use with the lens hood; and 3) takes less space in the bag - much easier to carry with the 12-24 and 24-105 and/or 90. I also have the 1.4x TC which I can use on the 70-200 GM for a 280 f/4. Now if only Sony, Tamron, or Sigma would come out with a FE 180 f/2.8 macro prime. 😁
@StefanMalloch4 жыл бұрын
@@Martin-nu6ym Makes sense to me! Great choice.
@lafonevc56633 жыл бұрын
Really helped me with my choice, thank you. I went with the 100-400 version as it's a little more flexible in use, easier to take just one lens vs needing a shorter one too, easier to carry in my bag, easier to shoot handheld for the things I enjoy (eventing, wildlife) and a bit more versatile all round. Worth the extra. Lovely sharp images. So much fun to own it. I think I'd have been happy with either though! And there's definitely a plus for the 200-600 if you shoot further off. Might get a converter later for the reach, once the kidney grows back... Great channel, so helpful.
@KarthwarrАй бұрын
I used to shoot A7RIII with 200-600mm and now I am switching to A6700 (because of the bird eye-tracking, size and weight) and the 100-400mm. So as far as reach goes, nothing changes, as 400mm on crop is the equivalent of 600mm on full frame.
@akirarex3 жыл бұрын
I own both. The 100-400 GM has dual focus motors, it is faster with tracking subjects moving fast towards you. It does tend to stay on the subject more. The smaller glass elements appear to aid in allowing them to move around more to make the OSS better too. Zooming with it does not feel great, even with the tension ring in the looser setting. It also zoom creeps out to 400mm when hanging downwards. The 200-600 G has a much better feeling zoom function, very short and smooth. The lens collar on mine is wobbly and not smooth at all, if you like rotating in the collar, try it out before you buy yours. The feet are not interchangeable like the 70-200 GM and 100-400 GM. Some people, like myself have issues with the 200-600 G paired with the A7RIV, even at high shutter speeds. Slightly blurry. It doesn't happen all the time, and it doesn't happen to every RIV owner, but just be aware. Even some Sony Ambassadors say this combination is not the best. I only use my 200-600 G on my A7III and A9II.
@alanmoore54264 жыл бұрын
In the end I have bought both of them. I got the 100-400 first because it is smaller, lighter, is much easier to hand hold, and it fits in my backpack. Then I got the 200-600 because it is longer and I have been shooting a lot of birds and it just made sense to have both. They both give great image quality and the 100-400 is also a great landscape lens.
@StefanMalloch4 жыл бұрын
If that's an option, why not!
@johnvandenbroek97534 жыл бұрын
I have the 100 to 400mm G lens and use it with the A7r4 .... awesome setup for nature photography.
@StefanMalloch4 жыл бұрын
The dream setup!
@ZOB43 жыл бұрын
Got the 100-400 G Master because I value the space. I want a (relatively) small set up, and the G Master is much smaller and lighter. It also pairs better with the rest of my Sony set up - I can carry my body (an a7c) 14-24, 24-105, and 100-400 in a messenger bag no problem. The 200-600 leaves me with a gap in focal length and takes up way more space. Combined with the super close minimum focus distance, it is FOR SURE worth the extra $500. Even with a teleconverter if I really needed the reach, it would still be smaller, lighter, and more versatile. Easy choice.
@standhd4 жыл бұрын
AWESOME review as always! The 100/400 will be my choice once I get in the market to buy one.
@StefanMalloch4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Earl! It will serve you well!
@Eli-lb1lc4 жыл бұрын
I went with the 100-400. Size/weight, more versatile focal length, and close focusing macro capabilities.
@StefanMalloch4 жыл бұрын
So versatile!
@njrtech4 жыл бұрын
I own both. Reasons? 100400GM is light, very sharp, is 600mm equivalent on A7RIV and has faster AF motors. The 200600G is my bird only (smaller birds) lense, also very sharp but 100400GM is a hair sharper and renders a little nicer. That said both are high quality lenses that are plenty sharp. I won't part with either one.
@HarithSalinda3 жыл бұрын
@@njrtech this is what I exactly wanted to know
@teampullmyfinger30364 жыл бұрын
just pulled the trigger and waiting... did the 70 200 gm first and then the 16 35 gm. Can't wait.
@DjimmyTrovy4 жыл бұрын
Great lenses, great buying guide. Thank you.
@StefanMalloch4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bud!
@hiyouseemcool4 ай бұрын
I think I’d prefer the 200-600 cause of the internal zooming. It’d freak me out paying so much for the 100-400 and having it breath every time I zoom in or out.
@Princeton_James4 жыл бұрын
Wow I didnt even know about the 28mp on the a7riv in crop mode. Now I'll consider it. First sure the 200-600 meets my needs. Great point about size. On the Panasonic I ended up using the 8-18 over the 10-25 because of that very reason.
@1533willo4 жыл бұрын
Will teleconverter essentially makes it 200-800? Thanks for vid I think size of 100-400 makes it choice for me. Also you find a good protective case for this lens? Thanks for vid!
@veselinvasilev93628 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@erikhammond12223 жыл бұрын
Hi, I have the Sony fs700r, would either of the two lenses be good to use for video production?
@VoteRepublicanSaveAmerica Жыл бұрын
Would you please explain the difference between mode 1 & 2? I guess I am the only one that doesn't know the difference since Sony does put this information ANYWHERE! Thank you.
@omerkhalid68079 ай бұрын
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@fishwomanyvr3 жыл бұрын
min distance sucks on both lenses; best option is the canon 100-400mm ii w/ ef-sony adapter. and $500 cheaper then sony ops.
@iansloan93094 жыл бұрын
I have had the 100-400 lens, but If you enjoy photographing birds, then the 200-600 is a far better option ( I traded up/down 6 months ago ) .... * faster aperture when you compare a 1.4 teleconverter+100-400 with 200-600 * ( also more solid feel than using teleconvertor ) * No lens extension when you change zoom .. you can better brace the lens on a bean bag, for instance * Better reach for lens alone * Using the lens hold bottons to operate DMF mode is a doddle, with easy to reach focus ring I dont doubt the image is a tad sharper with the 100-400, but birds are notoriously difficult to get 100% sharp, and the "slightly worse" image quality is not going to impact most photos very much at all. I am not disagreeing with the video ... just for ME, its the better option...... I wish I could have had both !
@nadeemafzal89842 жыл бұрын
Great advice That precisely ended up being my reasons for the 100-400
@njrtech4 жыл бұрын
I struggled and ended up owning both :) 100400GM is my favorite, but I also love the 200600G for its extra reach. They are vastly different in a few ways. 100400GM is slightly sharper with shorter minimum focus distance and magnification at 35x (no need for macro). Weight wise, although 100400GM extends it is still lighter and packs better into a backpack. Yes the 200600G is heavier, you might need support... but reach is the 200600G specialty. That said, if you own a A7RIV your choice is harder. Reason? A7RIV plus 100400GM gives you 600mm in APSC mode at 26mpx, with superb AF. The AF motors in the 100400GM are in fact superior to those of the 200600G, although slight the difference in AF precision is noticeable. End of the day both fit ways in work so I'm keeping both.
@longrider95514 жыл бұрын
I own both lenses and an A7R4 for about 6 months. The 100-400 is a slightly better lens for IQ and also slightly better for keeping the shutter speed up for birds, this becomes important if you shoot in early morning or late day situations.The 1.4 tele works well with the 100-400 and has almost no effect on IQ, I don't think it works as well with the 200-600 with regards to IQ. I would rather walk around with the 100-400 and would prefer to use a monopod with the 200-600, either way both will make you happy and yield good results. If I could only afford 1 it would be the 100-400, thankfully I was able to swing both.
@Priyam_B3 жыл бұрын
U r soo lucky
@shinysurfer4 жыл бұрын
thanks for a great video, really helpful indeed. Helped me decide to go for the 100-400
@StefanMalloch4 жыл бұрын
Can't go wrong but great choice!
@danzbeard4 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison, thank you! 👊👍
@StefanMalloch4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dan!
@scb2scb24 жыл бұрын
yep 100400GM + tc1.4 +A7R4 the perfect combo for travel would almost call it a travel lens :)
@wildlifebybrianhoule4 жыл бұрын
My 100400 is in right now - the screws on the lens mount keep coming loose, but I just bought the A7RIV and this will be a great combo. I can't believe the cropping capabilities from that body.
@rejkk Жыл бұрын
After long time of debating I decided to pair my a7IV with 100-400. I'd love to do more birding but since I live quite far away from natural habitats I would not be able to use full 600mm that often. My main thing is macro so I feel like changing from my usual 90mm to 100-400 will provide new capabilities without completely disabling my usual habits. Thank you for the video!
@miyin2194 жыл бұрын
I’m saving for the 100-400 GM. Will be my first GM lens.
@sosomelodies6594 жыл бұрын
I'm definitely saving for the 200-600mm. My RX10 III offers 600mm f4, but I want the long reach in aps-c for a whopping 900mm (1200mm with teleconverter).
@gamerguy6554 жыл бұрын
They are both amazing. Still a tough choice. Thanks for this.
@vishaladhikari40444 жыл бұрын
Sony a6400 and samyang af 85 mm f1. 4 review please😫🙏🙏💓
@thegorn5 ай бұрын
I like the 200-600mm because it's bigger and girthier, and that's going to impress women more
@algeriefootballvideos5 ай бұрын
Hello , Between a Sony 200 - 600 mm lens And a Sony 100-400 F 4.5 - 5.6 with a multiplier of 1.4 to use on a Sony A7 IV which of the two solutions is better for sports photos at night with very good lighting?
@StefanMalloch4 ай бұрын
The 100-400 will be faster but both might be tricky at night
@jassasingh5392 ай бұрын
i hope Sony turned 100-400 into a f4 lens
@StefanMalloch2 ай бұрын
Me too but no one could afford it..
@wildlifebybrianhoule4 жыл бұрын
Very nice comparison video Stefan! I have both and will be keeping both for the time being. If you add the 1.4 tc to the 100400, it's still very sharp, but in lower light situations, you're at F8 whereas the 200600 is very sharp at the long end and you're at F6.3. 100400 is shorter and lighter meaning better for travel. I'll be using it on the A7RIV. I'll use the 200600 on the A9 when I need distance although I'm prepared to lose some shots here and there as I find it's simply not as great on focusing as the 100400 (and by that, I mean you lose a few frames, but nothing terrible at all). It's just the 100400 on the A9 is pretty stellar. I've had 200+ photos bursts of snowy owls without any images out of focus. I find the 200600 takes a few frames to really lock on. It's also heavier to handhold, but a good monopod helps the day go by easier.
@jamesdebro57182 жыл бұрын
I Purchase the 200-600mm G lens and loving it.
@Gmakamian4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I also went with thew 100-400 as size/weight is everything for me. I travel with my 100-400, but I would never travel with the 200-600.
@StefanMalloch4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree!
@ahmonon43524 жыл бұрын
You should carefully test the focus speed at long end, GM is considerably faster
@augamr4 жыл бұрын
"Vlogging"???? ... would love to see what that looks like on a selfie stick!!! Haha
@rmclark3394 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. I've been struggling between these two lenses and this comparison was very helpful. I'll do some birding but that's not the only one minor purpose for wanting a super zoom. The close focusing distance of the 100-400 is perfect for some of photography I'll be doing. I've found the 100-400 used for about the same or slightly less than the 200-600. I just hope the 1.4x at 560 has decent image quality. I have read it's not near as good as the 200-600 at 600.
@StefanMalloch4 жыл бұрын
Thanks bud. For 99% of people, the 100-400 with TC quality will be more than adequate.
@calamity33310 ай бұрын
i know this is three years later but how did it go? how was the image quality at 560 ?
@rmclark33910 ай бұрын
@@calamity333 Image quality at 560 in good light was okay. Not as sharp as the 200-600 at 600. I did recently buy the 200-600 and I love it. The image quality is very sharp.
@calamity33310 ай бұрын
well im most definitely buying that 200-600 with my bonus hehehehe @@rmclark339
@njrtech4 жыл бұрын
One thing...the 200600G does not have dual linear AF motors...the 100400GM does. That's a difference that's noticeable especially considering AF precision
@chrisseveris51264 жыл бұрын
Oh man! This is a difficult one. You make a very good point that if one day I upgrade from the a7iii to the a7r4 cropping is no longer a problem.
@StefanMalloch4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Honestly, if you aren't a hard core birder, the 100-400 is probably better for most people. Its so versatile. If you're going high MP in the future, cropping is going to be a breeze.
@Jonathantuba2 жыл бұрын
I went for a 200-600, then added a 70-200 GM2 with additional 2x teleconverter as I find the 200-600 too heavy carrying around. The 70-200 GM2 is my favourite and is what I use most (with and without teleconverter according to use). That is now another option not available at the time of this review. It does not extend and even with teleconverter is even lighter still than the 100-400 and still with F5.6 wide open. I also see no drop in quality with teleconverter.
@Luke-tt9xw2 жыл бұрын
I'm in the same situation as you and I made the same choice: super happy and satisfied, incredible combo.
@njrtech4 жыл бұрын
The 100400GM is sharper...and contrary to what some say the 100400GM with 1.4tc sharpness remains on par with 200600G without tc. That's still fantastic. Granted I only use a tc on 100400GM to further increase magnification at MFD. I never use it for reach...i reserve the 200600G for ultimate reach in APSC mode on A7RIV.
@StefanMalloch4 жыл бұрын
Nailed it
@njrtech4 жыл бұрын
@@StefanMalloch thanks. Just reporting from my experience with both lense...as I've owned both for well over 6 months now. Take care
@luisatorre8572 жыл бұрын
i got the 200-600 and love it! :D
@Anarki2U4 жыл бұрын
If I had to choose then the 200-600, but I will prefer primes at any time (new or old), Sony (or Sigma, Tokina, Tamron, any other brand) should make primes 300mm 4.0, 400mm 4.5 and 500mm 5.6 !
@Anarki2U3 жыл бұрын
Now I got the 200-600 ! :D
@danielgsclase7 ай бұрын
Today sigma 500 mm 5.6
@sajibdey2503 жыл бұрын
You have missed (Focus Motors: Only DDSSM Motors for (200-600) and 100-400 (GM) double Linear Motor + DDSSM.
@StefanMalloch3 жыл бұрын
True story!
@gcarmichael11 ай бұрын
Go with Sony Red - always
@lisawells82264 жыл бұрын
I'm still torn. We are supposed to go to Alaska this summer and I'd love to have the longer reach for the grizzlies, eagles, etc. that we will see on this trip. However, the size of it is a concern. I feel like overall the 100-400 would be a better choice long-term, as it offers more versatility. I wish I could afford both. I have an A7iii and can shoot in crop mode, thus increasing my focal length. Can you tell me if the picture quality of the 100-400 in crop mode and with a 1.4 teleconverter is still sharp? Thanks in advance.
@StefanMalloch4 жыл бұрын
Yes it will be fantastic! Cant beat the size.
@petervercoelen7721Ай бұрын
You help what to buy😊
@MaRnMaRnMaRn Жыл бұрын
what exactly is the M/O focus? Which you state to be missing on the 100-400 in pro's and cons? (don't seem to find any documantation on that one...)
@ajnyc22 Жыл бұрын
Hi Stefan - thanks... very helpful! I shoot on the a1 and have the 200-600 (which I love) - I shoot a lot of rowing crew races, and many venues are perfect for that extra reach, but at a couple key racing venues, I'll never get beyond 400mm - so I'm thinking it's worth taking the plunge to the 100-400 for the extra sharpness in those instances. Any thoughts one way or the other, please? Thank you!
@binglin61242 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for posting! A couple clarifying points: 1. You mention in your chart that the AF motors are the same, but I don't think that's true. Doesn't the 100-400mm have dual motors while the 200-600mm has one? 2. You also mentioned that the A7RIV is 28 megapixels in crop mode, but I think it's 26? Not very important, but just thought I'd mention it. Thanks again for the great video!
@judyashley43263 жыл бұрын
Best review yet...concise, no blather, and very informative.
@TreyyDaMenaceFan2 жыл бұрын
I use an a6300 body, I'm a birder, is there a better option for the body or is this the best budget:use setup for camera body for bird photography?
@faramarznorouzi69104 жыл бұрын
Hi, I have a Sony 200-600 and a Sony 28-70 lenses. I want compplet my lenses and do a purches another one. What Sony Lens should I buy?
@StefanMalloch4 жыл бұрын
Depends on your shooting style.. Ultra wide?
@faramarznorouzi69104 жыл бұрын
@@StefanMalloch which Ultra wide do you recommend? cost dosent matter.
@iMax18903 жыл бұрын
Hi Stefan! I did find this video helpful. I bought the Sony A7RIV for its endless cropping possibilities, great dynamic range and adequate AF. Together with this body, I bought the 200-600 G lens, as I mainly (99%) shoot wildlife: lots lots of birds, mammals, reptiles, whatever it moves that is not a human with no human objects in the images, always in their habitat haha I had no issues with this combo, but then I started wondering whether the 100-400 GM lens would have been a better option in terms of sharpness, maybe lower shutter speesds and ISO values and versatility. What do you recommend? Should I make the move or stick to my first choice? Is the quality in the images of a GM lens THAT different from this G lens? Thanks in advance! Happy shooting!
@lauragrim34564 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed your review of these two lenses. I have an Alpha-6500 and am curious if the 100-400 is "too much" lens for this camera. I am leaning more towards this lens, with the idea of being able to photograph birds and find the size much more user friendly! Thanks for any help you can offer.
@StefanMalloch4 жыл бұрын
It will be great on that camera and will be a 150-600mm equivalent!
@lauragrim34564 жыл бұрын
@@StefanMalloch Thanks!
@lovegames85304 жыл бұрын
Both great options, great lenses, great video
@StefanMalloch4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 👍
@lesliesharpe49154 жыл бұрын
Great video!!
@StefanMalloch4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@RishiRajKoul4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, as usual, an amazing review
@StefanMalloch4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rishi!
@justingates11224 жыл бұрын
200.i have sigma 150 600 I like the other one if I get it were it dont spin out words
@UfukSahinDenmark11 ай бұрын
Really useful video Stefan. Thank you!
@burritobrosvideos80603 жыл бұрын
Accredited nature photograoher lol
@intutivestriker894 жыл бұрын
Which of these lenses has the best bokeh?
@StefanMalloch4 жыл бұрын
100-400 gm
@intutivestriker894 жыл бұрын
Stefan Malloch Thanks for the reply! But the 200-600 has 11 aperture blades as compare to 9 in 100-400. Could you please share us some insights as to why you think 100-400 has best bokeh.