Sony 11mm vs Rokinon 12mm vs Viltrox 13mm

[@AHPOutdoors]

Viltrox 13mm VS Sigma 16mm 1.4 is what we want to see Arthur :-)

[@henrykernodle]

Trust me, the viltrox is WAY Better and the new viltrox’s pro lenses like the 27mm F/1.2 and the 75mm F/1.2 are on the SAME level of a Sony GM lens! I almost bought the Sony FE 24mm F/1.4 GM (expensive AF as you probably know) for my sony A6700 and that because I thought there were no lenses around that FL as great as the sony, but that was until I found the Viltrox 27mm F/1.2, I’m blown away to this day!

[@MrEugeneNEGATIVE]

Thanks for the compartion, but at 4:36 we can see how Sony is focused on the foreground (spikelets) so conclusions in this part could be wrong

[@jhirse3547]

I'm totally hooked for the Sony 11mm. I already ordered one to replace my Sigma 16mm and the manual Samyang 12mm. Then I realised that I only took 100 real wide angle pics within four years, so I cancelled my order and currently I'm selling off the Sigma 16mm and stick with the Samyang. So Arthur, your videos are teasing and eye-opening at the same time!

[@chongtentcreator]

Love the lens options for Sony APS-C now. There’s something for every budget and photographer… Now it’s just up to a Sony to do the same for their APS-C bodies

[@MattDRobertson]

So excited to watch this video. If you’re open to suggestions, I’d love to see how the 11mm on an APS-C compares to a 16mm lens on an A7C, or some other full frame camera. It seems to me like the 11mm might enable APS-C shooters to really mimic the wide angle of the full frame! Again. Thanks for the video!

[@z352kdaf8324]

Just get the Laowa 9mm Zero-D. ArthurR has mentioned it's been his goto Sony apsc fav.

[@samozeal9466]

Yo this is exactly what I was thinking! I'm using a Sony 10-18 f4 on my full frame a7c and it's worked fine, but I'm so curious how it (or one of these) would compare to an actual wide angle designed for full frame. What am I losing by using an apsc lens in a full frame? Or is it a good option?

[@allen3158]

yes! me too, really curious about that when the 11mm came out, especially for the distortion compare to other 16mm lens in ff

[@moshesalama]

Hello Arthur, I purchased the Viltrox 13mm f1.4 lens for Sony, tested it on both my Sony a6500 + Sony A7c and found a bug that I believe is the result of faulty quality control: I normally set my cameras to Aperture Priority. The lens aperture ring is set to A. I turn the camera on and the camera defaults to f/2.0 instead of f/1.4 when I turn the aperture ring on the lens back to A, it goes again to f/2.0. of course I can turn the ring manually to f/14 - but it seems like a bug that could be fixed with firmware update. I contacted VILTROX several times via email and messenger and they either ignored me or brushed me aside. I also asked this question in the relevant DP forum, but nobody was familiar with this bug. potential buyers ought to know this.

[@ayeyo2711]

Incredible channel! Most of the time it's hard to find even one good comparison between two lenses I'm interested in. This channel has freaking 3 way comparisons and all 3 sets of lenses I'm looking into: Sony 18-105/18-135, Sigma 18-50/Sony 16-55/Tamron 17-70, and Sony 11/Rokinon 12/Viltrox 13. So many reviewers fail to critically demonstrate the optical differences between lenses but the optical comparisons here are actually very useful. I really appreciate the corner sharpness/astrophotography/FOV comparisons and that you get to the point with all the important info, without cringy intros and cheesy music/transitions. Subscribed.

[@offroadskater]

Please compare the 11mm Sony to a 11-20mm zoom at 11. I'd be interested if the prime is worth the lack of flexibility. Thanks for everything.

[@nhancao4790]

If you want flexibility, just go ahead with the zoom. They are probably very similar sharpness-wise stopping down, the point of the 11mm is the fast f1.8 aperture for such a ultra-wide lens.

[@offroadskater]

@@nhancao4790 Hey. Thanks for the answer. My question was directly aimed at the real world advantage of that aperture and if it is worth the loss of flexibility.

[@Isokay29]

@@offroadskater Clearimage zoom makes it a little more flexible

[@martonhegedus]

Great comparison! One caveat though: you still never test the "true" corner performance of lenses as long as you shoot in 16:9 instead of 3:2 which is the format of the sensor.

[@kumandertukmol7132]

Hi Arthur hope you make another video comparing sony 11mm and sigma 16mm.😊

[@AndrewLazarevBlog]

Where is Yongnuo 11mm F1.8?

[@binhle8887]

Sony 11 vs Laowa 9 PLEASE!

[@HSNG10]

Size/weight and quality matters for APSC travel kit. Hence it's Sony 11mm for me. If size and weight are not considered, I'll bring my a7RIII setup instead. Hence my choice for APSC lens take size and weight into consideration.

[@ivaks2586]

So happy I got the Viltrox in their pre-sale for 340€ (thats 20€ cheaper than the Samyang here), for that kind of money it is easily the best value out of these 3.

[@luisandradevideo]

For vídeo on zv 10’or a6700 the Best is sony 11mm?

[@ramadanimam34]

God bless you and your family. There's no other man like you doing such videos for the sony APSC well not only for the APSC but at all for everything you've done so far and keep on doing!

[@Visual_Ghoul]

What about the Zeiss 12mm

[@bartoszpajak2285]

Very informative, thanks! The quality of this new Vitrox is a big surprise for me since I had the opportunity to test the 56mm and wasn't really overwhelmed with the sharpness and more so with the chroma aberration which was one of the worst I have ever experienced on a lens.

[@fknsellers]

Looking to get a wide angle for landscapes and astrophotography. I'm a casual photographer but really want to open my horizon on an upcoming winter road trip through Utah. I was all set to grab the Rokinon after watching this as the quality for the cost seemed to be pretty amazing. Prices are apparently not what they were a few months ago. Rokinon 12 - $379 Viltrox 13 - $429 Sony 11 - $498 At these prices, the Sony absolutely seems worth it for only $120 more than the Rokinon, but $500 is still a lot for me to spend on a lens. Are camera lenses something that tend to drop in price for the holidays? Is the Rokinon worth it at this price point? For anyone who has purchased any of these lenses, would you still make the same choice with these prices? Any thoughts or recommendations would be great.

[@umang7]

I am in the same dilemma to have a lens for my Sony 6700 aps c which can cover landscapes and Astro as an amateur. I am confused between Sony 11mm, Viltrox 13mm and Tamron 11-20mm . I do have a Sony 18-105mm/f4 but that’s not meant for low light / Astro. Which one did you finally go for?

[@Wodapeak]

Hi Arthur, Thanks for all your video for APSC Shooter. I do not want to go full frame and you are one of the few that stick with APSC not oversaling the full frame format over APSC. Would you recommend the Rokinon for vlogging ?

[@MarlonKingShow]

Why do none of them have oss. We still have the old soft 10-18 for wide angle with stabilisation for video. It looks dated. Micro jitters are so bad on most of the line up with out ibis (even with in some ways) Yet all these coming out, great for photography, but not much else non tripod based.

[@bobser9371]

Dziękuję za dobrą robotę

[@moworigraphy]

Yes please! Viltrox 13 vs Sigma 16 and also Sony 11mm vs Sigma 16mm would be interesting. Thanks for the great content, Arthur!

[@shang-hsienyang1284]

How about Sony 15mm f/1.4

[@thenickli]

I already have the sigma 16 1.4, so the Sony 11's my choice. The difference between 16 and 13 just isn't enough, and the laowa 9mm has too many imperfections, so the Sony is a good balance between optical quality and field of view.

[@Trazzt]

Hi there from 2024, came here looking for a wide angle for my a6700, currently the Sony is slightly cheaper than the Viltrox (€549 vs €579), that compared with the wider angle made me pick the Sony! Thanks for the informative video!

[@Ronny.T]

Just bought a used A6500 after watching many of your videos! Upgraded from a5100.

[@smileofdean]

That’s cool, I just upgraded to zv-e10 from a5100. Inavailability of 3.5mm jack is a deal breaker.

[@elaadhn]

would be great to compare youtube video/studio style, for talking head, product and portrait video and photo between the viltrox 13mm, sigma 16mm and maybe even the sigma 18-50 2.8, as these 3 are on top of the list for anyone looking for a a youtube setup with the zv-e10/6400/6100. thanks!

[@Isaac-uk3lm]

The 13mm is too close to the sigma 16mm I already have. The 11mm is the only one I see worth getting, but it is expensive, so I’ll have to think about it. I am excited about the size/weight of the 11mm as well since I take my gear hiking quite a bit

[@aliengaming_squad7579]

Another great review from Arthur R, really enjoyed this review. I plan to buy the sigma 16mm f1.4 as my ultrawide lens, but after saw your video about these 2 new lenses ( sony 11mm f1.8 and viltrox 13mm f1.4 ), ill have viltrox 13mm f1.4 in my shopping list

[@HansChristianHansen1]

Thanks! Would be great with a comparison with the Sigma 16mm. Especially before Viltrox 13mm pre-sale ends in a few days.

[@nedmacfadden7654]

Have you taken a look at the Venus Laowa 10mm f/4 Cookie? I'm curious how the results differ when shooting f/4.

[@WillShrop]

I wonder if you had the updated firmware for the Rokinon. Ver 2 that came out in 2021. I just got the lens and it's still on ver 1, but the update is supposed to help with autofocus. Sadly, gotta buy a $40 adapter to update it.

[@RiffsRhythm]

Fantastic video! What would work best for me… KZbin guitar tutorials in a small bedroom. Would like a nice blur in the background and the camera to be setup quite close. Any help would be great! Sony zv-e10

[@oliverpascher5805]

Hi, will you do a comparison between sony 11mm 1.8 vs zeiss touit 12mm 2.8 ? I‘d like to see it

[@wilbertvivas9764]

Fantastic comparison thank you so very much! I've been on a 4 month research bender for a wide aspc lens & narrowed it down to the Rokinon and the sony. This made my decision easy!

[@Donbros]

I like sony and viltrox they give good vibes. Sony > viltrox > samy (though sony and viltrox looks nicest but size of sony is wow) Though 16mm is too much for vloging but nice for environmenntal shot. For me 18-20 is sweet spot for selfies vlogs, but again 16mm is useful for other things especially opening shots

[@allen3158]

finally wait for the comparison of sony 11 with sanyang12mm! thanks a lot for sharing this!

[@CiroAbreu]

Hi Arthur I'm looking for a Telephoto lens to replace my Sony 55-210. I'm between Tamrom 18-300 and Tamron 70-300. I know they're not in the same category, but for the 70-300 range, which one is better for my Sony A6000? Thanks.

[@astro143_]

I've been eyeing the Viltrox for a while, but now I need to consider between it and the Sony. I'm not sure how much I care about the focal length difference, but considering the daily carry bag I want (peak design everyday sling 3L), going with the sony might let me stuff my sigma 18-50, 56mm, and 11mm in the bag. The Viltrox would for sure just be one extra lens in the bag.

[@DigiDriftZone]

I wish there was something like the 11mm F1.8 on the Fuji system. I have the Samyang/Rokinon 12mm F2 manual focus and the colours/contrast are off (also the AF version is noticeably worse optically). The Viltrox 13mm is good but too big/heavy.

[@huangsaskei430]

Where's the sony 15mm F1.4 ?

[@ArthurR]

It’s crazy expensive for a comparison like this!

[@gusatvoschiavon]

Can you do a video about the a3000 or the a3500? Sony really need to comeback and do another a3000 series

[@מיכאלקונטרוביץ]

I think the Sony is really the ultimate winner out of these 3 lenses. As we all have seen in the review, the Rokinon is really not in the excellent league of the other two lenses, though it's lighter and much cheaper than the other two. The Viltrox is a very good lense,but if someone goes for professional product,food or real estate photography, the extra 2 millimetres wider angle on the Sony is extremely important. Yes,the Sony is a most expensive of these 3 lenses, but you can expect that from the native brand with the G quality.... Thank you very much dear Arthur

[@paulyeung6608]

Chose the Samyang over the Viltrox on Fuji X for the weather sealing and lighter weight 👍

[@andyjonasadventure]

YES!! Sony11 VS sigma16 PLEASE!

[@louisdefunes8952]

Nice videos ass always👍.. But..do you realy need autofocus with a wide angle lens? But maybe i'm wrong..

[@alexeipg]

wish this had included 15mm f1.4 g as well

[@vitabphoto]

Tell me how much better the Sony 11/1.8 is than the Samyang 12/2.0 manual?

[@SpuddyIRL]

I’d love to see the sigma 18-55mm f1.8 with the MC-11 thrown in against some of the wide angle lenses too

[@drrrw]

I hope they make it in eos m mount.

[@ArthurR]

It’s a shame canon gave up on the m mount.

[@Sebartus]

Why you didn't add Sony 15mm F1.4 and Sigma 16mm F1.4 to this comparison ?

[@chosenideahandle]

I dig how tiny and light the Sony is. For those that will buy the FX30, it's really the only way to go so wide with AF. Nice work as usual (I know it was awhile ago).

[@ScottyInVancouver]

Oh sammme! I tried the 11mm f1.8 and so wide and lightweight (can’t believe it f18

[@pixxelpusher]

Throw in the Laowa 9mm to round it all out :)

[@clebermarinoofc]

His analyzes are excellent and of great contribution to the audiovisual. Congratulations!

[@kevinridley8883]

hi all, looking to pick up my first sony camera , here in the uk the A7iii & A7c are both priced at £1699 new, or should i just jump in for the A7iv at £2399 ?

[@Trchamberlin]

Thank you so much for this review. Did you ever update the firmware on the rokonin? I just got the samyang and I’m debating on whether it’s worth buying the dock to do the update or not. Also how is rolling shutter on the other two?

[@ArthurR]

I haven’t. I didn’t even realize that was out yet, which might make a big difference in AF accuracy.

[@arquivo225]

I love wide angle lenses, had tasted a lot as a photographer (like fullframe nikon 20 1.8 and 17-35 2.8). Now I'm going to try Sony APSC and I think I will buy two of them. You guess witch of them.

[@MasoodJamal]

Which these ultra wide angle lenses do you suggest for indoor real estate videography in a low light noisy situation with the Sony ZV-E10 camera ? 👇 1. Sony 11mm f.1/8 2. Samyang 12mm 3. Rokinon 12mm 4. Tamron 11-20mm 5. Viltrox 13mm F1.4

[@hridaimanav3620]

My Friend, Have you figured it out? I'm looking for the same...Appreciate if you could suggest me...

[@sas9200]

Important comparison. Helped to make a decision. ... going with Viltrox, although it is Chinese.

[@geopapa80]

I think the Viltrox is the first chinese AF lens that has nothing to 'be jealous' about. Got the Rokinon on a killer 199$ deal on Amazon and it's great for my UWA needs.

[@ArthurR]

That’s amazing! $199 is a steal for that lens!

[@geopapa80]

@@ArthurR Yeah it was for a couple of days in September on Amazon US. It was still cheap after the import taxes to Europe where I live. I sold my manual Samyang 12mm afterwards.. Kudos to the DPreview poster that gave me the tip then

[@fotoman76]

BRAVO! tamron 11-20&sony 11

[@quick.easy.eat23]

I just ordered Sony 11mm, Thanks for this!! 💕

[@DonLoBau]

$360 for the Viltrox over a year ago was a great price for this lense. Not many other lenses could compete with that vocal length and the price. But know in late 2023 it's $470 on Amazon after taxes. For that price I would go for more of a name brand than a Viltrox. Just my opinion.

[@paulmccurdy8457]

Please add chapter markers

[@nightdonutstudio]

13mm is a perfect vlog focal length to me.

[@MarlonKingShow]

Very surprised with viltrox given it was previously considered a cheaper brand. Quality looks decent.

[@novikovgarage_SPB]

боюсь у него слишком шумные моторы автофокуса брат, для видео он не годится если вы не используете внешние микрофоны

[@panzerschreckpete]

appreciate the real world use case notes re the Rokinon/samyang - I'm very much a casual, so a budget starting out lens makes sense - maybe down the road I'll get the Viltrox or the Sony (who am I kidding- I'll probably get both) as an aspirational upgrade.

[@jre617]

Thank you, Arthur R! Excellent comparison review. I've been waiting for this. Your presentation is impeccable as always. Like you, I have been waiting for UWA AF lenses like this for APS-C for a long time. Tough choice: Viltrox, 13 = great quality, great price, but big and less wide. Sony 11 = nice and wide, great quality optics, but relatively expensive. Samyang 12 = a bit off image-wise, but small and a great value.

[@irfangusmiyatna]

I've learned, slide time line bar to see if there is a vlog test or not😁

[@brentinjapan]

Awesome job. Thank you!!

[@paulobarone9102]

Great video, as usual. please, Viltrox 13mm vs Sigma 16mm.

[@Burzcasts]

No OSS for all 3 lenses ! A real bummer. If you have a non-IBIS camera you are forced to use a gimbal for video.

[@Sebartus]

You can use gyro stabilization ( gimbal style stabilization ) with Catalyst Browse in Sony ZV-E10, α7C, α7 IV, α7S III. Even if this lens had stabilization it would still be too weak for video. The stabilization in the lens is mainly for photography for good qality video you always need gimal for example Zhiyun Crane M3 or M2S.

[@Burzcasts]

@@Sebartus Catalyst Browse sucks. It takes one big process more plus you have to keep your shutter high for it to work properly. Plus there is a crop. Gimbal it is for video. There is no other good solution.

[@SpuddyIRL]

@@Sebartus do all three lenses have gyro ?

[@ifeanyi_maduka]

Very nice video, and yes, a comparison between the sigma 16 and Viltox 13 would be excellent, thanks.

[@lasarith2]

I’d only been asking them for 5 years straight for a 16mm = for there Apsc cameras .

[@tanayjohnson1297]

Viltrox vs Sigma please! I've always wished the sigma was a tad bit wider for landscapes so it should be interesting to compare optics given the similar price tag and focal length.

[@marcuskoay999]

Yes compare the viltrox to the sigma

[@kg22kg]

How come 11mm f1.8 has more bokeh than 13mm f1.4

[@btrue2day]

i guess maybe it's because the 11mm is wider angle and Arthur zoomed in to match the size of the images. Maybe?

[@ValentinA-nx9wm]

maybe not the same focus

[@JairajSinghPatil]

11mm has much closer focusing distance

[@Halumtube00]

want to see sigma 16mm vs viltrox 13mm

[@Lifebydesignvlogs]

No one is going to zoom in an ultra-wide angle lens and expect it to be Sharp

[@Uli_Hillebrecht]

Great video and comparison. I would also like to see a comparison between Viltrox 13mm, Sigma 16mm and Sony 15mm 1.4. Thanks a lot. Greetings from Germany. 🙋🏼‍♂️

[@findtruth7]

Low light test is what all matters.

[@isbestlizard]

If only the viltrox had weather sealing ;_; come on viltrox make a pro version add a bit of sealing tone down the chromatic aberation I will buy o.o

[@Image1Nation]

How is the 11mm for real estate? Is it too wide with distortion?

[@hridaimanav3620]

My Friend, Have you figured it out? I'm looking for the same...Appreciate if you could suggest me...

[@donhorn548]

Thank you

[@georgevp]

Fast wide angle is always nice.

[@Drumaier]

I'd choose the sony just for the size.

[@gigihanmandarin]

Thank you for this much needed comparison!

[@BojanBojovic]

It is really nonsensical to judge the name build quality by touching the outer shell material, it is so shallow thinking.

[@bsdgffishtuna5186]

the manual 12mm rokinon is way sharper then the sony...just saying....

[@jbx907]

Viltrox❤

[@trohachev2009]

спасибо за обзор

[@katource1]

Vi

[@yxyanxiang8100]

First!

[@ArthurR]

SUPERFAN #1!

[@Sebartus]

@@ArthurR Please add Sony 15mm F1.4 and Sigma 16mm F1.4 and do the also low light test for all this lenses.

[@cameraprepper7938]

Of those 3 I would get the Sony 11mm 1.8, the Viltrox are too big and heavy (stupid on a APSC Camera !) and with longer focal length, I do not trust chinese made products ! That said I will not get any of those, I will get the Sony 15mm 1.4 G Lens !

[@btrue2day]

Hey, most iphones are made in China

[@cameraprepper7938]

@@btrue2day iPhones have crappy Lenses and are crappy made !

[@btrue2day]

@@cameraprepper7938 Fair enough. So what phone do you use?

[@cameraprepper7938]

@@btrue2day Sony A7RIV and Sony A7RIVA, Sony 14mm 1.8 GM, Sony 24mm 1.4 GM, Voigtländer APO-Lanthar 35mm 2.0 Aspherical, Sony Zeiss Sonnar 55mm 1.8, Voigtländer Macro APO-Lanthar 65mm 2.0, Sony 135mm 1.8 GM, Sony 200-600mm 5.6-6.3 G and a lot of adapted analog Lenses, fx Canon FDn, Leica R and Tamron SP Lenses.

[@btrue2day]

@@cameraprepper7938 didn't know that the A7IV is a phone .... any case, sony lenses are made in china