Sony 12-24 f2.8 GM Review (vs 12-24 f4 G & 16-35 f2.8 GM): Sony wide angle lens comparison

[@HelenaOfDetroit]

I just got in the 16-35GM and I LOVE this lens so much. It's small, light, super sharp and fast. It's a dream lens.

[@manlykscorpa]

Definitely not small and light haha

[@HelenaOfDetroit]

@@manlykscorpa guess it depends what you're doing with it

[@adicer9619]

@@HelenaOfDetroit big and heavy in every position 😉

[@PropDusting]

Have you tried the 24-70GM at 24mm against the 12-24GM and the 16-35GM?

[@andyr8812]

I've got the 16-35 GM, which is a very high quality and sharp lens, but nothing beats the 24/1.4 GM for wide angle astrophotography.

[@aliendroneservices6621]

20/1.8?

[@ruslanr.6171]

@@aliendroneservices6621 14/1.8?

[@KOKOBC]

@@ruslanr.6171 14mm 1.8 for the win

[@andrewclifton429]

You really need to compare this side-by-side with the Sigma 14-24mm f2.8, which is almost $2000 cheaper. OK, it's not quite as insanely wide, but the reviews I've seen say it's savagely sharp, corner to corner, throughout its zoom range.

[@andrewclifton429]

@@AR-vf7vg I think Tony has a long-standing disdain for third party lenses. However, after I tried out the Sigma 24-70mm F2.8 I sold my Sony GM lens, because the Sigma just smoked it, in my judgement (and a lot of reviewers agree). And it's much cheaper, of course!

[@andrewclifton429]

@@AR-vf7vg I own the 105mm F1.4 and the 35mm F1.2 - and I'm very happy with both of them. One of my favourite Sigma primes though is the hugely under-rated 45mm F2.8, which is (shockingly, for Sigma!) really small and compact, making it great for street photography. I have some Sony lenses too, of course - but in many cases, it pays to check out what Sigma and Tamron have to offer, before spending a whole lot more!

[@andrewclifton429]

@@AR-vf7vg Thanks! Yes, the voigtlander 65mm and macro apo-lanthars are both amazing - Razor sharp and the best control of CA you'll ever see. My favourite Sony lenses right now are the 24mm f1/.4, the 90mm f2.8 Macro and the 200-600mm tele.

[@andrewclifton429]

@@AR-vf7vg Yes, the 135 GM is excellent, but I don't really need that focal length and I'm very happy with the Sigma 105/1.4!

[@andrewclifton429]

@whole27 Second question first: the closer the subject to the camera, the blurrier your background will get at any focal length - but of course, this is most obvious when shooting at wide apertures, like f2.8 or less. The Sony 16-35 mm f2.8 GM is a great lens, but it's big, heavy and very expensive. Personally, for vlogging I'd recommend using prime lenses as you tend to get higher quality for less money. I'd suggest around 24mm as the sweet spot for vlogging - and my top recommendation would be the Sony 24mm f1.4 GM. It's sharper and faster than the 16-35 mm, and about $1000 cheaper too. If you still want to spend some of that $1000 I'd suggest getting a budget-price 15mm or 18mm lens for some super-wide shots - nice if you want to shoot yourself skateboarding or whatever, and get in lots of dramatic background. But you'll probably find yourself using the 24mm 90% of the time. I hope this helps!

[@Lofote]

Sorry, but the thing with the α7-III and "go with the f4 it is ok enough" is just bs: I tested it and corner sharpness was horrible and nonusable, wheres as the Sigma 14-24 F2.8 was extremely sharp already at f2.8. Don't think that 24MP is not much. It is far more than you think and far more than enough to show huge weaknesses.

[@chrisneibauer]

Word

[@AdamMuise]

Thanks for the comparison of the 12-24mm F4. While I appreciate good glass and have a few GMaster lenses, carting the extra weight with the extra price tag means the 12-24mm f2.8 would not get in the bag as often. As it is, the 12-24mm F4, 35mm f1.8, 24mm f.14 GM, 50mm Voigtlander APO f2 (yup, weird pick), and 135mm f1.8 GM makes a perfect kit for me personally. The weight is already high enough in my backpack.

[@ggreyshade]

for $4600 cad after tax, this lens is absolutely insane to purchase. sigma can get you comparable results for way less money on any system

[@Falcrist]

Yea the price is crazy. Two grand is already a bit expensive for this kind of lens.

[@Maxime-ho9iv]

Those are simply not comparable. Lenses are not only focal length and maximum aperture numbers.

[@LuisMarquez80]

Nah, I’ll pass on this lens. 16-35 f.28 does just fine

[@95Ldunc]

Luis Marquez I could justify it if I needed this lens for Real Estate photography, Landscape photography and it was something I would use regularly. Before I invest in a lens, I always ask myself how is this lens going to pay me back in jobs? $3000? It’s hard to justify that kind of money for a specialty lens. 16-35mm F/2.8 is sharp and perfectly adequate for the type of photography I do.

[@magnus547]

Loved the intro with your daughter! Awesome job, and thank you for your unbiased opinion.

[@bobdmb]

Thanks great review but whats up with the audio on this one?

[@TonyAndChelsea]

I'm doing real-world reviews of video gear and it didn't all work as hoped :(.

[@bobdmb]

Tony & Chelsea Northrup no worries! really saw the effort though!

[@credos97]

Nothing about the Sigma 14-24 f2.8 who is actually the first concurrent :(

[@DieterWoestemeier]

Jared compared them apparently

[@PropDusting]

Fro Knows Photo did a comparison

[@andersistbesser]

If you want a 12mm, you dont look at a 14mm

[@micahturner5599]

@@andersistbesser or compare it with a 16-35?

[@andersistbesser]

Micah Turner 16mm is not 12mm so i am not interested

[@otraguardia]

0:34 "Actually show how to use this 12 mm lens." I guess you are sleeping on the couch tonight, Tony.

[@pawelmod3292]

;-) ... getting closer to subjects ... ... controlling the proportion ... Perhaps there should be some more tests with 10mm :-P

[@lokoearthadventures]

Love the intro in the car 😅

[@mikemuha7537]

Wish you included the 14-24 Sigma. I"m loving that lens. Got a set of the Haida filters at Adorama.

[@godsinbox]

any chance you have the clear night filter for removing yellow light pollution?

[@mikemuha7537]

@@godsinbox No, just 4 graduated ND filters. 0.9, 1.2, 1.8, and 3

[@BrianJacobson]

78 degrees is super hot??? Come to Florida...

[@airdailyx]

Or palm springs 😜

[@johndennis5585]

Hi Tony and Chelsea. Being a silver surfer in my early 70s And money being tight. Before the lockdown in England. I purchased the Sigma 12-24mm f4 Canon EF fit . Used on a Sony Alpha A73 .Using a Sigma lens converter . It is a combination worth looking at. What would you get on the A7R.4. Have you done a review on this lens?

[@Sebabarrossierz]

New Northrup joining the team, great!

[@maxheadroom8888]

Great video. Thank you. Did you compare the distortion of the f4 and the gm?

[@jsarahina]

If you already have 24-70 2.8, what will you be getting? a 12-24mm (which still covers the focals 24mm below) or a 16-35mm?

[@Anonymous-mn3td]

Thank you for another great review. The 12-24/2.8 looks like a nice upgrade just for the flare resistance but that price difference from the f/4 version seems difficult to justify.

[@akkarparkiamopas3401]

I expected to see your comparison between 16-35GM vs. 12-24GM with the Astro shot. It will make a conclusion for me which one is winner in the range 16-24mm (Day and Night shot)

[@NinhNguyen2]

This is the comparison I was waiting for: 12-24 F2.8 GM vs F4 G... thanks for this.

[@photographerjonathan]

Hello Tony and Chelsea, I am more curious with how it compares to the Sigma 14/24 f2.8 art lens witch is like half the price ?

[@aportraitontech5218]

Inspiring seeing your family involved. Thanks for comparing the three wides! Due to limited interior space, I'm looking at the 12-24 2.8 for it's wider focal length and aperture.

[@tommypapa7261]

How much better are these vs. say the prime fish-eye converters? Obv they’re gonna be but that little 28mm f2 is so light and travel friendly and the converters are easy to carry too. Thoughts??? Gracias!

[@pjw2000]

Thanks for the review and comparison. I'm kinda obsessed with this lens. It seems like a true do-it-all ultrawide that can handle practically anything that type of glass is meant for. It's clearly not for everybody; either of the others or the Sigma 14-24 will be perfectly fine for the vast majority of folks. But for those who shoot in that range in a variety of ways (and have the dough to spare), I can see them paying for that degree of versatility. For the first time ever, you don't have to choose between the extra range or the brighter aperture in a zoom. That's something.

[@benoloughlin1557]

Another great video Tony and Chelsea! Lovely to see Maddy in this one. I shoot with Canon gear but I still find your videos on different manufacturers gear very instructive and interesting. Again, many thanks!

[@lakejindsay]

Great video. I think most people who have the 12-24 F4 use it at F8 ish and I'm assuming there's nothing in the differences at that Aperture. For Astro, there's light weight primes or a star tracker. The 12-28 2.8 isn't exactly a Halo product, but it almost is.

[@dragonrick54]

Where did you get that leather case for your Sony camera? I remember my brother had one on his 35 mm Yashica camera he brought back from his tour in Vietnam.

[@AmorLucisPhotography]

Great stuff as ever! Would love to know the comparison with the Sigma f2.8 14-24mm - to my mind a more relevant comparison lens that the Sony f2.8 16-35mm. Is there a 12mm or 14mm prime you can recommend for Sony FE?

[@micahturner5599]

I wish the comparison was with the sigma 14-24 Fe. I don't know if you guys are familiar with lens rentals but it might be worth checking out.

[@steveinman813]

that is the greatest kind of videos ...in the field. hands on and real comparisons. awesome job and thank you.

[@ishaan90]

M8 Gran Coupe. i like. what happened to the Model S?

[@TonyAndChelsea]

We traded it in weeks before the 4-year warranty expired because it was falling apart. They're fun but they are not well-built cars!

[@venom5809]

Literally says 840i on the back of the car, how did you come to the conclusion that it's an M8? 😂

[@ishaan90]

venom5809 hands type faster than their own good. Whoops.

[@rachel7550]

I had the 16-35gm as my first and only lense, just bought the 12-24gm (so unnecessary but was curious) and totally see what you mean about contrast differences! Haven’t taken the 12-24 out too much in nature but hoping it was worth getting..

[@rubbrdux]

Thanks for explaining the clicking noise at the end. It was causing a bit of curiosity.

[@mitchellgladstone4004]

How does the Sony 12-24 f2.8 GM lens compare to the Sigma 14-24 f2.8 Art lens? Is the Sony GM worth the extra money being spent?

[@truckingpix]

you're the BEST Tony & Chelsea, thanks for another very informative video!!

[@okaro6595]

0:47 those are crosses, not crucifixes. A crucifix has a body that is fixed to the cross.

[@TonyAndChelsea]

Yeah I realized that immediately after I said it but left it in as my gift for all the pedants. You're welcome!

[@regeletipul]

@@TonyAndChelsea :)))

[@shirishpathak689]

is it the only difference of sunstars & low light? if all rest of the performances are the same as 12-24 G? please reply as I want to buy ?

[@deepnong]

Is the 12-24 not sold anymore?

[@sittieainie9871]

Hello, i am a new photographer. I'm actually skeptical about taking my gears out on a hot & humid day fearing that the moisture can get into the camera, specially when changing lenses. Can you advise me regarding this?

[@MudvayneS10]

I own the 12-24/4 and the 16-35/2.8 and can't take any other setup cause I am not willing to ditch my filters.

[@sfiron]

I think for me the 14 GM prime would be better. BTW why is there no Fisheye lenses in the Sony lineup?

[@ApertureApex]

You knocked it out of the park in this one. Excellent video guys ! :) been here since the 5D mk ii days.

[@AdventuressAli]

Thank you ! I'm really struggling about which wide angle to get because I have issues in my back and have to carry not only camera gear but camping and travel stuff too. Your reviews are so great to help me know where the weight and cost may be worth it.

[@MrMaksi1990]

At 18mm do you think it's better then 18mm prime batis?

[@jbloom4172]

Very nice review, I really enjoyed how thorough you were with the comparisons and features. Quick question though. You make a big deal out of the fact that you don't get paid for the review or accept free gear. However, you also stated that you hadn't purchased this and you get the gear from the manufacturer early to be able to post to the embargo date. So How do you get the gear but didn't pay for it if you don't accept free gear? Not trying to be a nit about this but I think it would be great if you could explain the process a bit and ease more concerns. I am genuinely curious about this. Thanks for all the great work you do.

[@anthonyc1883]

It's almost certainly a lens that needs to be returned. Sony puts these lenses in the hands of reviewers but the reviewers don't get to keep them. Therefore, Tony isn't accepting free gear.

[@jbloom4172]

@@anthonyc1883 And yet he got the lens for free and from a Vendor which implies he is on their good side. DJI will not send him free gear because he is no on their good side. I get how it works but it is still free gear to use and review. Also I did not see anywhere that he mentioned that the lens was provided by Sony (Usually reviewers say where they got it). I just think it would be interesting to hear this discussed.

[@anthonyc1883]

@@jbloom4172 I don't think a vendor supplied the lens. Adorama and Amazon, to use just two examples, are only taking waitlist orders because the product won't be available for more than a month. Sure, it would be good if the video stated "Manufacturer-supplied sample for review purposes only." Are you suggesting reviewers should personally purchase each piece of gear they review, in order to be iron-clad independent? That'd be very hard for so many reviewers because they don't have the budgets of Northrup, DP Review and others. Plus, hot new products also take a very long time before enough of them are in the pipeline. I don't need or care to stick up for Tony, but you stated DJI won't send him anything because he is not on their good side, so doesn't that indicate he is not afraid to offend a manufacturer if he doesn't like their product? I think the affiliate links are more eyebrow-raising than accepting a lens for review and having to send it back, probably pretty quickly, too. I know these reviewers have to make money, but the affiliate links to me are more suspicious than reviewing a lens that you aren't allowed to keep.

[@jbloom4172]

@@anthonyc1883 I think maybe you are missing the point but your statements support my question. He states very clearly in the video that we can expect fair and unbiased reviews because they never accept free gear. I don't have any problem with a reviewer getting an item for free to review it. I don't have a problem with a reviewer even getting to keep the item. I do think they should reveal how they got the equipment though. Personally I don't even mind if they are paid for the review. It's all about transparency. All I am saying is that I think it would be interesting if Tony were to talk about how that works. I would be curious to learn more about how they get stuff and how long they can keep it and etc... I just though the statements were a little incongruous and would like to hear the story from the horses mouth as it were. I have a lot of respect for Tony and this is in no way meant to be a slam or a takedown or something else. Merely my own curiosity and interest in hearing the story.

[@anthonyc1883]

@@jbloom4172 I suggested that perhaps he should post in the video "Manufacturer-supplied sample for review purposes only." Isn't that transparent? I don't think I missed the point, but sure, a detailed video in which he describes the whole process would be interesting. And I definitely didn't think you were slamming him. :-)

[@NCPhotography]

Can you guys do a wildlife real life comparison between this and the sigma 12-24 for photographing close ups of lions in the wild.

[@HappyHubris]

Tony, I can tell you had a lot of fun with producing this video, especially with the drone footage and transitions. I can't justify the price of this lens but enjoyed the video!

[@robertmcdaniel7788]

Well done, sir. Always enjoy your reviews.

[@uhu4677]

Not sure, if the blur is coming from the lenses or from different focus.

[@AudiomoeTV]

Great review! I just picked up the 12-24 GM and it’s unreal...crazy pricey...crazy worth it

[@BiggMo]

Tony, (Newbie question) - for panorama, why do you stitch together in Lightroom rather than use the in camera panorama (stitches in camera like in my A6400)?

[@TonyAndChelsea]

Most cameras don't do in-camera panoramas, and those that do, I've found them to be pretty poor quality. Lightroom will stitch it and keep everything in raw, even if you bracket for dynamic range.

[@BiggMo]

Tony & Chelsea Northrup: thanks for replying. My Sony A6400 does panorama in camera - but I haven’t tried using it in RAW. I’ll just need to mess with it some more.

[@noone-yn6in]

@@TonyAndChelsea youre a good sony salesman. cause if you put that 12-24 vs the sigma, the sigma would rape it. like manny showed in his video. he called it "contrast" but its clearly sharper. youre still still a scumbag in my eyes though. the 40yo guy with a wig of a 60yo

[@0katmandude0]

on a more related subject. very interesting vid ^^. How do you think it stacks up to the nikon 14-24. If you don't consider weight and bulkiness?

[@TonyAndChelsea]

Here we compared the Nikon to the Sony 16-35: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jqHadHenqM1sZqs. So definitely the Sony 12-24 is overall better than the Nikon.

[@0katmandude0]

@@TonyAndChelsea that in itself is quite an achievement . the nikon glass was pretty good in the past.

[@popcornparam]

Y is no one talking about the 11-16 2.8 tokina

[@mrsusan893]

Because that lens is average at best

[@peterringier]

Can you please specify the leather holder on the camera? Thanks

[@ChrisSkoog]

Thanks for comparing these! Completely agree with your final synapsis based on usage/which camera/potential preferences. I might just sell the sigma 14mm f1.8 along with the 12-24 f4 and sony 16-35 f2.8 and use all proceeds for the 12-24 f2.8 lens. now, if only they'd put a 12-24 f2.8 Zeiss lens out.... really miss the contrast and pop from the 16-35 f4 zeiss lens!

[@samuelbentolila]

Hello, can you please tell me which tripod head and camera mount you used in the studio?

[@jcjmholland]

Thanks Tony. This helped make up my mind as I already have the 24-70 GM. I believe the 12-24 GM will round out my lenses nicely.

[@mattgray9297]

Tamron 17-28 or the Laowa 12mm if you need super wide. You can get both for much less than this new GM. Excellent review!

[@shang-hsienyang1284]

This lens is amazing, but as an owner of the 16-35 GM, I've decided to buy the Samyang 10mm f/3.5 prime after Sonyalpharumors revealed the $3K price tag two weeks ago.

[@unloadedone]

You guys went to Waterbury? LOL. Sorry, former CT resident, and I recall driving on the highway and wondering what that Holy Land sign in the hills was all about. Now I know. Far more interesting subjects than I would have thought. Looks like a great lens but that price is steep. Ouch! Hopefully, it drops a little bit over time. Or wait to get one used.

[@chrisogrady28]

I was expecting a burnout at the start, and had hoped your 8 series was an M850i haha. Very nice car regardless. I suppose you prefer it over the Model S then?

[@eahughey]

Any Canon R5/R6 vids coming soon???

[@sionglooi8170]

THX doing the milky way test, it will be the primary reason why i would buy this lense. BTW, are you gonna progress into astrophotograhy/deepsky astro? Not that many good teaching material out there, having gotten most of your products, a detail astrophotography ammendment will bw a great purchase :D

[@TonyAndChelsea]

I would really like to as I'm a total space nerd, but 1) I'm nowhere near any good skies, so I couldn't do it on a regular basis, and 2) Hubble always crushes my spirit because I know I'm never going to come close and it's not like other forms of photography where I could introduce some new storytelling or composition into the photo.

[@sionglooi8170]

@@TonyAndChelsea Fair points, Im lucky my geologist work takes me out to remote areas of Western Australia. Yeah scientific observatories gonna blow away anything i can capture and the deep night skies, has little story telling aspects other than from an astromony formation prespective. Still I just only started getting into it and it been very exciting gathering "data" :D

[@YoungTang]

78 degrees is too hot? come on lol

[@dnldnl4880]

So how about now with the sony a7iv??

[@LZXun]

bad audio on the mic, was it internal mic?

[@christophezwecker1831]

could you compare the laowa 12mm to the sel 12-24 gm ? i got that next to my sel 16-35 gm

[@MrDrRipper]

So all in all, super nice prime lens for milky way in your opinion would be what???

[@TonyAndChelsea]

The Sigma 14mm f1.8 is the best lens I know of, I just wish it were better (and natively designed for mirrorless).

[@atefamriche9531]

Looks like a nice family excursion !! I appreciate your channel for its educational value & the chance to see what the more expensive gear can produce ... even though I am limited to an APS-C sensor and budget lenses.

[@javajack-1]

Hey, thanks for the great review. I ordered the Haida 4 ND filter set for the rear of the 12-24 f2.8. Easy to install and works great. The damn filter case is huge, though, so I’m thinking of moving them to an SD card sleeve to save space.

[@JoeKnowsTravel]

Just getting into photography and this was very helpful. Buying a Sony A73 as my first camera. Wasn't sure which camera lens to get but after watching this video I believe the 12-24 f4 will work great. Thank you again.

[@kumardoctor3583]

hi nice may go for it i have a sony alpha 7 II what do u think with this camera what will it like i have another lens 24-240 but not a G master thanks for the reply

[@tagtheshooterphotography2540]

Thanks Tony And Chels for this review.... folks are bad mouthing people who choose to buy the new lens saying u can just get the Sigma 14-24 and sony f4 version.. u have prooven that the 12-24 gm is a upgrade and not just wasting money. yea the price is high but if u bought the a7riv.. then u should get the 12-24.. this will be my first wide angle zoom. i held of on getting the 12-24 and just used my 16-35gm untill this came.. cant wait.. Thanks brother.

[@Robiejan1]

Just the comparison I was looking for! Thanks 🙏🏻. I will keep my 12-24 f4 for now (a9+a7iii) great tip to upgrade when you have an a7r4.

[@sturm3n]

Thanks for the review, but the video/audio quality doesn't seem up to the usual Northrup standards 😢 Also Chip's is awesome. Their patty melt is delicious!

[@pawelmod3292]

78 degrees... Oh no, it's telling me nothing ... You are using metric system (SI) for focal lengths but for temperatures you are switching? Why? By the way: you are testing Sony 0.472441-0.944882 Inch f2.8 GM :-P PS. it was 25 Celsius degrees which sounds to me like a perfect weather :-)

[@jeremias.lindner]

16-35 GM is the Best landscape lens of today! Still be the king

[@SeanTheRightWay]

Yup. And great for vlogging if you’re not walking too much.

[@jeremias.lindner]

Sean Hummel agree! The 16-35 GM and 70-200 GM from sony are their best creation (and the 24 GM too)

[@arthurgphotography]

Yep, first Sony lens I bought

[@arthurgphotography]

@@jeremias.lindner the 100-400 GM is pretty great

[@jeremias.lindner]

Arthur G i never tryed, but im waiting to get one! It's the last lens I'm missing from my list

[@SusanSlattery]

Thanks Tony! I'm not a zoom person. Love my primes!

[@Aksunkuvat]

Rarely zooms deliver their advertised light gathering amount, usually 2.8 is more like 3.0+ T-stop

[@wesbaynham1634]

No mention of filters ! I'd say the 16-35 GM wins the 'least faff with filters' prize !

[@joelmulder]

The big problem I have with this lens is that 2.8 is amazing, but without the ability to use any of my existing ND filters, I’ll probably never use that aperture when doing video…

[@keithbrown454]

Them lens are very expensive and I'm not rich. The results of the lens are nice for sure. Have you tested the SIgma's equivalent? Also, that's one of the main reason I'm a subscriber of your channel. Unbiased reviews and that means the world to me. Stellar work as always.

[@camspotr9012]

Tony/Chelsea- Please confirm all people, objects, and locations were physically located where they are depicted in this video (and previous ones).

[@kylewolfe_]

I like the nature ambiance in the image comparison voice over audio

[@arbez101]

So many of us in these comments, including myself, are pathetic.

[@anthonyc1883]

lol!

[@bzboii]

4k60p. Best of both worlds now :)

[@anoophcl]

I love watching your videos and also own a7r4 , could you please make a video wherein you tell what case you use with sony a7r4. thanks

[@pizzleybear8562]

Really appreciate this stellar review if these cool lenses! Thank Tony!

[@DavidStella]

11:04 what mic did you use, Tony? That way I make sure I never buy it. :)

[@TonyAndChelsea]

Rode VideoGo+ or something like that. I literally threw it in the trash while editing this video. Piece of crap.

[@randygoodsell1533]

Great very informative lens comparison video. Been kicking the tires on all three lenses and you confirmed my choice. 16-35 gm it is.

[@dannoringer]

Tony: I own your books, and I really do appreciate these reviews that are unbiased. Thank you !!

[@ColinRobertson_LLAP]

It's good to see Sony pushing the envelope in lens design for once, rather than just copying other proven designs. As a canon user, I would love to see them up the ante with a 11-24 f/2.8 or something similarly groundbreaking.

[@venom5809]

LOL with Maddie doing the product showcase in the back of the car.

[@JoseHernandez-ir2sm]

Sony provide new released lenses to various professionals for tests and reviews. What happens to theses lenses after returnded? Do Sony repacked and sells as new to the public?

[@ayhancapan]

In Turkey, we was wondering, how it will be. Thank you for this great review Tony.

[@echoauxgen]

Suggested 1. For filters use Sony Playmemories app Digital Filter on Mark ii and below bodies (if someone could just ask Sony to put apps on the Mark iii and above frames) 2. Put a Lenscoat on the lens, For Astro people you are out at night and early season Feb. Mar. and Apr. in the cold will help keep the lens warmer. For protection and extra weatherproofing, ever do a MW at 2 deg.F in snow need I say more!! Lenscoat currently does not make one for the f/2.8 or f/4 but will if enough ask!!

[@ViktorKotschy]

All questions answered. Thank you! :)

[@swistedfilms]

Nothing says "Our Lady Of Peace" like a fence and razor wire, eh?

[@benoloughlin1557]

I had exactly the same thought. The irony is priceless!

[@manuelp7472]

I second that. Razor wires are one of the worst kinds of "fences" to keep someone out or in. They are extremely dangerous and hurtful, if you get caught up in them.

[@PropDusting]

Use a little common sense! People are destructive and to build things like that is expensive! Razor wire is cost effective vandalism prevention.

[@benoloughlin1557]

Maybe, but it speaks to the heart of a religion which has been nothing but a cover for slavery, mass murder, rape, land theft, pillaging, rape, colonisation and pedophilia for over two thousand years.

[@swistedfilms]

@@PropDusting Yeah, I know, I know, people are gonna vandalize anything they can get their hands on. But you gotta admit, the optics aren't great.