Sony 14mm F1.8 GM VS Laowa 12mm F2.8 | Which Lens Am I Keeping? | Best Real Estate Video Sony Lens

[@VeeBo1200]

Do you think that a ND filter or polarizer is necessary on this lens for real estate shooting?

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Nah :)

[@DansTubeTV]

Awesome video bro! Loving these epic real estate shots 🏡

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Next tech reviewer in the making 😜

[@DansTubeTV]

Yes 🙌 let’s crush it together 😍

[@rachael6382]

Great video! Those real estate edits looking fresh af!

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Thanks so much for watching 😎

[@shemgatdula1038]

is the laowa good to use for photographing large group of people and then print them. Planning to use it for wedding group shot photos as well or even School Class pictures. Thank you.

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

I don't do photos so I wouldn't be able to answer this perfectly but I think it would :)

[@FishVisions]

What’s transition are you doing for your day to night shots?

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

It's a luma fade, you can see it on my latest Davinci video :)

[@yvrcaptureproductions]

Awesome review! Im blown away by all your daytime/nighttime transitions!

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Thanks mate! It's a mission but so worth it when you nail it.

[@micek.drones]

Can you do a tutorial for it bro?:d

[@better2boutside295]

great video! No bs just real world experience advice, we need more of this on youtube. Please make a video about the transitions day to night. Subbed and looking froward to more vids!

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Thanks mate! I'll try to when i can :)

[@YKTVchannel]

Does the 12mm lens have an Auto-Focus option ?

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

All manual lens

[@ANRO_ANRO]

Is the Laowa 12mm will work on Song FX3 without crop? Is this also an FE?

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Yes and yes :)

[@ritzlacson]

How do you make those night and day transitions? Do you have a tutorial?

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Eventually I'll make one ;)

[@DRMadeIt]

Amazing video. I love your edits sooooooo much

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Thanks mate appreciate it!

[@psylansa]

One of the big reasons I got the Laowa was yes because of Josh but also I needed the 12mm for the crop that s3 does in 4k. the 14mm with the crop is ok?

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

A7siii 4k crop is still 3840, i think it's worth it for the sharpness :)

[@psylansa]

@AimonBebendorf Yeah I could definitely see the difference in your examples. Thanks for the great content, now I need to figure out the right codecs etc for da Vinci and my gpu. Just a year into video.

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

@@psylansa Nice mate, crush it! H264 4:2:0 if it's struggling, or all I ;)

[@psylansa]

@AimonBebendorf Do you have a video I can watch on setup for real estate

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

@@psylansa Coming very soon ;)

[@djepodjepo]

Do you need an ND often or daylight always high F-value?

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

I don't muck around with one on a wide angle, usually shutter & f stop :)

[@MelvinDlaCruz]

you shoot 4k or 1080 60p?

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

4K, 6K now I'm on BMPCC 6k Pro

[@braedenkeyes]

Awesome video mate!

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Thanks legend!

[@dwylhq874]

Very helpful review/comparison. 👌 Any regrets since you posted this? Have you gone back to 12mm? 💭

[@shanemartinphoto2974]

Was looking for a new lens since I'm over using my 16-35 f4 for the last 4 years. Kind weird this video popped up on the feed. Im thinking the Laowa swell to pair with the A7siii. Really loving your finished product so it would be cool to see a video of you out shooting and how you go from room to room with settings. Cheers man!!

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Thanks Shane, Laowa is a great choice mate. Working on trying to get one of those out, thanks for requesting it!

[@dexterwegh]

Great vid, glad this came up in my search. Gonna place my order for the 14mm gm. Love the lightweight and especially that it's almost the same size as my 24mm gm. My real estates shoots are part talking headshots from the realtor with my 24gm so swapping to the 14gm on my gimbal for the property shoots will be much easier cuz i wont have to recallibrate like I have to do now when I use my 14-24 sigma 2.8. That lens is huge and hefty and because I got lazy I hardly ever use that lense and throw my tamron 17-28 on my cam which isn't wide enough most of the time. Can't wait to get my 14mm! Keep up the good work and I absolutely love your day to night transitions!

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Agreed mate! Love swapping between 24 and 14 for real estate, perfect pair. And yes sigma wayy to heavy haha. Thanks for watching mate.

[@anthonymoldezfitness3048]

Thanks for this video! Maybe i didn't quite hear it but is the sony 14mm also have Zero D??

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

I don't think it claims that, but I don't notice much distortion on straight lines :)

[@markeverett3917]

I'm going with the Laowa EF mount because I can also use it with the magic shift converter.

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Great to hear! Thanks for the comment man.

[@liarunaway]

Omg same! I'm using it with my R5 and a drop-in CPL filter. Best combo.

[@jamesseward9263]

I have the Laowo ani have the Laowa and love it for landscape photography but looking to get the Sony 14mm for wedding and portrait photography because of the autofocus and light weight. It will allow me to be more creative and have a 21mm in crop mode giving me two lenses in one to go along with my Sony 24mm and 50mm 1.4 GM 😊

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Amazing! Cheers

[@homestagefilm]

Woow so amasing video! What kind of lighting do you use in the rooms to get such pure white walls while the sun is shining from outside and the light is on inside? Do you have a video about this or a video worth to watching?

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

It's all in the grade, so much information to manipulate :)

[@homestagefilm]

@@CreativePhilosophy_ the bathroom cuts are full of reflections and with strange, mismatched shadows.

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

@@homestagefilm Thanks for your feedback

[@darrendavis4048]

When shooting with the 14mm do you shoot in 4k60? Do u have to deal with a crop

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

4k50 in Australia, yeah. Not on a7siii :)

[@ismatec]

Very useful video mate! You convinced me to get the Laowa 12mm for real estate apartments. Is it worth it for real state photography? Thanks a ton for your reply/ all the best

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Yeah either lens is great for all rounder use :)

[@ismatec]

@@CreativePhilosophy_ thx for the quick reply. I wish you an excellent week and tons of good health

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

You too legend@@ismatec

[@brunomamede2352]

I'm getting my 14mm GM today. So excited!!!

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Yess!! Hope it's treating you well

[@jasanrol]

Great, you helped me stay with Laowa 12 mm.

[@mustafagomen7084]

Hi I am a new owner of sony A7S3 could you give me your opinion on the laowa 12 mm is that the fact that it has no autofocus is not a disadvantage?

[@gusdee4844]

@@mustafagomen7084 I would assume it being so wide, wouldnt need to be super accurate with focusing. Thats atleast how I dealt with my canon 10mm

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Glad I could help :)

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Yeah it's fine, it goes to infinity focus :)

[@photosblossomsau1624]

Hey how did you the day tonight transition at 1:25?

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Working on a tutorial for this :)

[@reggistry7854]

Great comparison, great editing. What the name of transition from day to night? that's real cool

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Just day to night transitions is what I call them :)

[@DougDavis]

I really don’t believe the Laowa is that much wider to justify not going with Sony. I’d pick Sony for its image quality for sure.

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

That's the play!

[@presentscene]

And now there is the 10mm 2.8

[@GoodyMorillas]

Have you used the new 10mm?

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

I haven't! I feel it would be a touch too wide though 🤠

[@filiphrkel]

thanks for a video, did you shoot this video on sony a7iii? what color profile do you use, looks so clean and dynamic range outside of the windows.... wow

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Secret grading trick my friend :) a7siii

[@AlexNyeArt]

1:21 Man, how did you re-create these blended shots so they aligned so accurately? Just a lucky guess? That's super hard to pull off, especially when you have so many angles around the house to remember getting

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Tell me about it lol. I've got some solid techniques, planning to make a video about it at some stage!

[@AlexNyeArt]

@@CreativePhilosophy_ Comment back here when you do! Hahaa subbed

[@libtard_destroyer07]

Hey man when's that video coming out about day to night transition. I'm a few million dollar houses every week here in North Carolina and need something like that. Thanks

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

@@libtard_destroyer07 Currently doing 20 shoots per week so don't have much time for KZbin right now. KZbin Luma fade on your editing system and give it a crack!

[@libtard_destroyer07]

@@CreativePhilosophy_ awesome, give it a shot

[@Bo_Hazem]

Impressive video, mate. I find that you went with PP6 for night for better low light performance. I would suggest you go with PP8 and HLG3 and set it at ISO 2,000 on a7SIII that looks crispy clean with better dynamic range that is comparable to SLog2 with better shadow recoverability vs SLog3 (so you expose for the highlights more). I think I might go with Sony 14mm f1.8 first then go for Laowa 9mm f/5.6 FF RL instead of this one as it's creeping closer to the GM price with no AF and much lower f stop.

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Interesting, I'll experiment with this!

[@Bo_Hazem]

@@CreativePhilosophy_ Check out Gerald Undone's review of the picture profiles on a7SIII despite him not being a fan of HLG overall. Sadly, HLG3 doesn't get as much love but it saved critical underexposed footage of a tiny insect (2-3mm) due to extreme macro (~7x) with the image looking 100% intact unlike other PP. SLog3 has its place, but HLG3 is just to easy to correct without noise in most cases, especially at base ISO 100 and 2,000.

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

@@Bo_Hazem Epic cheers man

[@ortegavlogs.]

Is the laowa compatible Whit a sony fx30

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Sure is :)

[@MelvinDlaCruz]

Do you miss the 12mm? or you feel fine now with the 14mm

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

I actually use 16mm minimum now and i don't miss wider at all surprisingly

[@MelvinDlaCruz]

@@CreativePhilosophy_ okk thanks os mcuhhh

[@harryz7579]

Hi, I am considering the 12mm Laowa or the laowa 14mm for both photography and videography. Which one would you recommend? Thanks in advance!

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

If you have the cash, I'd go the sony 14mm, while the width of the 12 sounds appealing, it lacks the sharpness of the Sony :)

[@harryz7579]

@@CreativePhilosophy_ Thank you very much ! I just worried that 14mm is not wide enough because A7m3 have crop mode on videos :(

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

@@harryz7579 Ideally you're not on crop mode :)

[@ACFX3]

What filter system do you use for ND with the 14mm 1.8?

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

No filters :)

[@M0nsieurPanda]

How do u make the day to night effect ?

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Working on a tutorial for that soon :)

[@clydedigital]

Good review. I’m surprised to hear you shoot wide open so often like that. Aren’t you losing a lot of sharpness and DoF?

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

DoF isn't as much of an issue on such a wide lens, but yeah I try to shoot at 2nd native ISO and a higher aperture when possible :)

[@rebelwwg1wga431]

so why not 12-24gm 2.8?

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Good question, video on more lenses coming soon :)

[@ekphotography]

Doesn't the Loawa have Zero distortion? The Sony looked good but I thought the Loawa's were better for having zero distortion.. Would love for you to do a Real estate tutorial for lighting and how you shoot them... Thanks!

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

I haven't experience distortion on the Sony if your gimbal is set up right :)

[@syafiqanuar4650]

@@CreativePhilosophy_ he mean lens distortion bro..

[@joesworld933]

great video. Thank you

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Thanks for watching.

[@housetour5885]

Really awesome work. ..Out of topic, I like your lighting. Can you tell, what type of lights do you use?

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Thanks mate! You mean to light the to camera piece? Legit 2 cheap ebay softboxes really close to me, 1 bouncing off the wall :)

[@matwickenham1548]

Great video, love ur house video clip!

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Thanks mate

[@ijphoto454]

Why not the 12-24mm GM ?

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Great question! To clarify I'm chasing the best prime. Cheers.

[@flutta_]

Nice video - My favorite Lense is the Sony B 0.Y.S - really nice

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

That's the best one for sure. Made by DMND company

[@rygoldsmith8181]

What do you do for ND filters?

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Honestly just the cheapest ones on ebay man :) I don't use ND's for ultra wides though :)

[@sharp_focus]

The images shot with the Sony lens look so much sharper even on KZbin

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Thanks for the feedback

[@seasideshutterworx]

Hi thank you for the video! What lighting setup do you use?

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

For the to camera piece? Just two cheap softboxes, one bounced off the wall :)

[@Bleitebr]

Amazing Video! How are you able to expose for the interior and keep the bright sky through the windows also exposed at the same time?

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

I expose 1.7 stops with slog3 on the a7siii and then do some saucy colour grading tricks to keep the exposure even :)

[@Bleitebr]

@@CreativePhilosophy_ I just got an A7iii, Im going to learn how to use the slog 3! Thanks! So you expose 1.7 stops by looking at the exposure meter and making it "overexposed" on purpose?

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

@@Bleitebr This is for the A7siii, a7iii colour science isn't quite there yet, check out Gerald Undone's video on how to expose these cameras :)

[@sgg74]

Good one, but what about the Sony 12-24mm? It has the 12mm and also is very good for distortion. Yes, a bit heavy, but it would be nice to see how it compares with these two.

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Good point, I was just comparing primes that are best for gimbals, my photographer uses that for photos and it's perfect, I would avoid it on a gimbal for a lighter set up :)

[@sgg74]

@@CreativePhilosophy_ yes, it is heavy. I had the opportunity to shoot with it a while ago. And it has very little distortion, not much different from the Laowa, besides it has that Zero-D. It is also sharper than the Laowa. Indo not shoot video, so the size and weight are not very important to me. Price yes! But if I decide to invest in the Sony, I want to make sure I didn't do a mistake, and then sorry for selling the Laowa. The 14mm is cheaper, but I'm not sure about these 2mm.... I think they are quite important, especially for small rooms, baths, etc.

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

@@sgg74 I used to think so too, but lately I prefer the 14mm look over the 12, it's too wide for video for me. Photos are different though :)

[@sgg74]

@@CreativePhilosophy_ what do your photographers think?

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

@@sgg74 He loves it :)

[@techdigitalgroup]

a Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 ? maybe?

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Too heavy for me :)

[@AlexBaeckmannNLM]

What are your lens settings? I can’t this lens tack shape to save my life

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

It's more about the camera settings, keep playing with it I'm sure you'll get it :)

[@carson_wrobel]

Thank you for the comparison! Are you using a constant light for some of the interior video? The windows look so clear while keeping the room bright. I can never get that effect!

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

No interior lights, just correct exposure and colour grading in davinci ;)

[@blueeyedanarchy]

There is clearly a light being used in multiple interior clips. There are odd shadows on light fittings and fans etc and a light can be seen in a reflection in one of the bathroom clips.

[@jawiddd]

But you did not comment on the real strenght of the Laowa. It’s supposed to be zero distortion…?

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

As cool as that is, I never notice any distortion on the sony so the sharpness is worth it :)

[@ernstvandijk6342]

Laowa also has a 9mm lens for Sony.

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

True but isn't it 5.6 or something?

[@TomTom-cn1vv]

How about Sony 12-24mm F4, I really want your review and comparison between 14mm F1.8 vs 12-24mm F4 This is a wider angle and lighter weight option, with autofocus , also has decent sharpness overall than Laowa 12mm

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Thanks Tom, I've only used the 12-24f4 briefly & it's a fantastic lens, the 14mm prime is definitely sharper and lighter which is why it's my go to :)

[@samraeisi9155]

Hello, I follow and appreciate your videos, can i ask how do you make this video changing day to night, you did it perfectly

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Thanks Sam, really appreciate it. I used luma fades in Davinci Resolve's Fusion and combined two shots together after aligning them :)

[@mrtony3729]

Great Video thx! Any remorse after making this video in choosing the Sony or still happy with the 14mm?

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Still stoked with it - sharp as! I do miss that 12mm but I don't think I'll go back :)

[@dudebro182]

Do you need any sort of converter to use the Laowa on a Sony Full frame camera? or do you just pop it on like any other Sony lens? Great video work and editing by the way.

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

just pop it on, FE mount :)

[@Slipsch]

Why not get the sony 12-24 2.8 GM?

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Too heavy for me :)

[@EETSTHECREATOR]

Bro just don’t expose to the right for twilights. Expose the middle like +0.3 slog 3 12800 5.6 eets bro your mad choosing s-cini 😂 in post you can still crunch shadows down to 10 ire and luma ^ to 90 ire and have heaps or room to adjust midtones with minimal noise ae.

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

I'm not entirely sure what you're eluding to but I appreciate your comment :)

[@v3zMedia]

Dope video

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Thanks legend - hope it helped!

[@jesseklein7611]

awesome shots! what color profile do you shoot in?

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Thanks mate. Slog3 :)

[@jklein1040]

@@CreativePhilosophy_ Do you find over exposing helps with the s-log3 for interiors or do you try and keep it around +0

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

@@jklein1040 I generally overexpose by +1.7 stops for the most even exposure. If I want to save some highlights because of a view or something inside, & it's well lit inside, then I might go lowest +1 stops over then boost shadows and mids in post :)

[@wearelightsquad]

Hello Hello, I shoot real estate videos and im buying a new gear. Sony A7SIII and I already have the sigma 24-70 2.8. Now my doubt is between a 14mm 1.8 sony or 20mm 1.8 sony, do you think the 14mm is more reasonable to buy, once that i already have one 24mm? Thankss and great video bro!

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

I have both, you'll defs need something 16mm or wider for interiors so I would recommend the 14mm :)

[@ipinidaisuke6664]

have you tried Laowa 9mm 5.6 FF ?

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

I haven't no!

[@craigman7262]

first video I've seen were they say not wide enough lol/ Good examples though.

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Thanks!

[@afalzon21]

Super helpful. Thanks!!!

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Too easy thanks mate!

[@afalzon21]

I ended up going with the Sony 12-24… Still haven’t had a chance to stick in my camera. We’ll see 👍🏼

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

@@afalzon21 Hope it's perfect for you!

[@sicilian10]

I personally liked the 14mm footage much better. To me, 12mm seems like it's just too much; I find it almost unnatural and too flat. Thanks for great review!

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Agreed!

[@humbertofilms3758]

Great video! Tell me did you shot at 24fps or 30fps? And did you use some speedramping e some shots, did you?

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

I shoot at FPS - Pal in Aus and also it's easier for calculating things haha. And yeah I speed ramp a lot :)

[@humbertofilms3758]

@@CreativePhilosophy_ Got it! Thanks man!

[@humbertofilms3758]

One more thing. What this fade transitions is called?

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

@@humbertofilms3758 Luma fade!

[@humbertofilms3758]

@@CreativePhilosophy_ Great! Thanks

[@erikender2785]

Hi, I was wondering, what is your setup with Sony A7R III and Laowa 12 mm for real estate photography? Are you using higher iso? Thanks. Erik

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Hey Erik, probably too much to get into in this comment, but for photos we use A7riii and 12-24gm at low iso :)

[@JinKazama92]

dude how the hell are you doing all these lighting???????????

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Magic colour grading secrets XXX

[@Jacob_Perceptions]

Sony looks much better including the narrower view. Good decision.

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Agreed!

[@queensalnd]

Thanks dude😊

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Thanks for your comment homie

[@kvncrg]

Dude great vid! For some reason, when using the Laowa 12mm on am A7iii, the edges of the shot are a bit blurry. How do I get it more clear?

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Could just be the lens man! That's partly why I went with the Gmaster :)

[@rickymcc9072]

Yes me too. IMO best way to fix soft edges on 12mm Laowa is to sell it and buy the much nicer 14mm GM.

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

@@rickymcc9072 Haha love it

[@rickymcc9072]

An interesting take. For me not so hard a choice. I love ultra wide but sold my Laowa 12mm f2.8. I was quite honestly underwhelmed when looking at the resolution into the edges, let alone the corners at f2.8 shot on my Sony a7Riv. It just didn't cut it. Also quite big, heavy and slow to use in MF vs tap to focus or eye AF. Yes I like ultra wide for creative portraits too (not flattering , but dramatic). So I bought a 16-35GM f2.8, but I love primes, so later also bought a 20mm f1.8 G to complement my original 24mm GM f1.4. Seen many reviews about the 14mm GM and yesterday ordered one. I fully expect it to be a keeper unlike my old Laowa.

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Agreed, thanks for the comment!

[@hamroz1]

So how is the 14mm Sony? Happy with it?

[@rickymcc8624]

@@hamroz1 Hi yes, overall a keeper, as expected. Plan to use for astro landscape as well as architecture, interiors etc. IMO an overall much better and easier to use lens than my old (sold) Laowa 12mm. Only 2-3 downsides IMO: 1. Won't easily take filters (ND etc without box system - big, clunky, expensive). 2. It's very specific, impossible to use as an only lens, necessitating it comes along in your bag as an 'extra' lens - so travel light isn't an option (but lighter than Laowa) so still better (faster too). 3. Not cheap - but quality persists long after the heavy cost to buy is forgotten. So mine will be a long-term keeper.

[@hamroz1]

@@rickymcc8624 thanks a lot for responding to me in details. Much appreciate it. Do you think it is worth it if you’re just doing realestate ? I couldn’t make up my mind between this and 16-35 power zoom

[@hamroz1]

@@rickymcc8624 thanks mate. Great points there. The fact that you pointed it out it is very specific is kinda the reason I was hesitating to invest on it. Coz I know the Sony 16-35 pz can be used for various purposes and also realestate but not the 14.

[@cameraprepper7938]

I do not need a 12mm Lens, I never do video, I am a still photographer, doing nature, landscape, architecture with Sony A7RIV, I need the best Lenses you can get for max resolution, sharpness and contrast, so I have the Sony 14mm 1.8 GM Lens.

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Choice!

[@entisarali9160]

what nd filter do you use?

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

None for my wide angles! Only a cheap ebay one for my 24mm :)

[@Stop-All-War]

Sony overpriced ??

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

I don't think so :)

[@sweet_it_is]

Subs!

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Thanks mate!

[@ThaiMyStyle]

Great review Almon thanks. Can the Laowa be used on the Sony A7c as looking for a wide lens low in weight as I use a Crane gimbal? Thanks Icecy :)

[@CreativePhilosophy_]

Absolutely, it's a full frame E lens, should be fine on the Crane :)