Sony 85mm f1.4 GMII vs Nikon 85mm f1.2 for Portraits

[@victorlim5077]

The 85mm F1.2 is so so good. Thanks for the comparison, Julia.

[@Mister_M3780]

Since I own the Nikkor Z 85mm f/1.2 S, it's my go-to lens when it comes to shootings. It's working so great with my Z8. I don't really mind the weight of the lens. The pictures are so dreamy. Great video btw.

[@akkarparkiamopas3401]

still prefer to have 1.2 . That amazing bokeh is much more appealing to my eyes.

[@MrGoodfried]

I do like the Nikon more! It looks better in every way in my opinion:)

[@tristanwilhelm9600]

Great video, I was surprised on some of these at how much a difference the 1.2 had for bokeh

[@kevinrtres]

Look at the difference in size of the face in the image and you'll understand there's subject distance or focal length differences at play.

[@pifilos]

Lovely shots. I don't own any of these systems but judging from these pictures the Nikon one just feels more pleasant, but only because they are presented side by side.

[@possiblybooger]

I’ll take the Nikkor 85mm 1.2 S. A lovely comparison along with a lovely model.

[@chadpurser]

Fantastic model!

[@fangli]

Oh man, nikon f.1.2 have beautiful bokeh and make image pop

[@astromoosie]

Honestly, your skills as a photographer and editing are superb. You can make any camera/lens combo look incredible.

[@cristianblazquez7930]

Nice work Julia! I prefer Nikon😍

[@OkwyUgonweze]

The nikon 1.2 is better in almost every way important to portrait photography .

[@mainmain5303]

Omg the 1.2! But it’s expensive!

[@santosbelmarez8023]

They both are great lenses, it’s hard to pick between them.

[@stevehaden1392]

Awesome video!!! What focus mode do you use on the Z8?

[@chrismoon5297]

I was waiting for this....yassssss thank you!!!❤

[@devilangel4655]

I didn't see much difference only sometimes the bokeh on the 1.2 a little smoother, but that is minimal for the lighting conditions. Beautiful photos as always, and I would also like to see some portraits of you “you have the look too 👀”🤷‍♂️

[@marcosramirez5705]

Okay , eso fue increíble, realmente increíble 👏

[@wikdmessenger]

The reason the bokeh looks that much smoother on the Nikon on comparison at 3.03 is that you are considerably closer to the model (which makes background smoother) and to the flowers in the background (which makes the flowers much smoother)

[@UrbanBDKNY]

Great video. At this level of premium lens and low aperture, the only question is what is best for you Both of these cameras and lens are excellent. You asked about size which is a good thing to ask. One thing that could have also helped to determine which one is for you is the price. Those 1.2 lens are usually very expensive

[@najlacam]

1.2 ❤❤❤ so better

[@jorgepinogarciadelasbayonas]

The funny thing is: You can use the Nikon and the Sony lens with autofocus on a Nikon Z-Mount camera using the ETZ 21 Pro Adapter for Sony lenses.

[@mrmonday42]

I hope that we get a refreshed 85 1.8 and an 85 1.2 soon. Such a great focal length!

[@stefan_becker]

Thank you for the great comparison. I also compared an adapted Sigma 85mm f1.4 DG DN e-mount lens with the Nikon 85mm f1.2 S on my Z8 and can confirm that it also beats the Sigma when it comes to optical quality. However the Sigma is of course much smaller and lighter.

[@MacKintoshPhoto]

Been a long time since I shot anything portrait at low f-stop. This was inspiring! Thanks :)

[@vvt6931]

1.2 for the win. So beautiful.

[@ottoespinalxx]

Thank you for this great video Mrs. Trotti!

[@SouthBorderss]

beautiful shots Julia!

[@baljindersinghsidhu3959]

Nikon nailed it.. amazing results..❤❤🎉

[@guydesrouilleres]

Great video as always Julia! I can't wait to see what you capture with the Canon R5 Mark II if you ever plan on making a video using that! I hope you have a great day!

[@jukeboxjohnnie]

I prefer Sony GM primes but Nikon bodies, so Im stuck between the two systems .. I do find the Nikon 50 and 85 1.2 lenses offensively big and heavy, not carrying those around. Couple of your shots the 1.2 cant keep both eyes sharp but the 1.4 manages it

[@davidgfisher]

The Nikon can be switched to 1.4 for the eyes...

[@adamadamis]

So why not use SONY lenses on Nikon bodies?

[@michaelmalodrums9674]

@@adamadamis you can use almost any lenses on the Z mount . That’s the beauty of having the largest flange mount of all the companies .

[@adamadamis]

@@michaelmalodrums9674 but it also means if you're buying a Z lens and then you switch, you're a bit stuck

[@ChemaPhoto]

So nice! You remember me using the canon 85 1.2? The depth of field it's siiii minimal. So I have swap for a sigma 105mm 1.4 even bigger and heavier for this close ups and less dof. heheh obsessed great vid as always

[@zhucloud]

nikon 1.2 lens looks definitly more dreamy, but the size and weight really matters, not to mention the price🤣

[@jbmedia8882]

I like how she stood in front of the bench in the background. 😂

[@Kreilo2412]

Is there a reason why your WB is so cool in the screen recording and also somewhat in the unedited raw? Is it just a matter of 'I will jsut fix that in post' or is there a reasoning behind it?

[@Your_Paramour]

Guessing it's probably auto white balancing over the entire frame and since most of it is in shadow the white balance is coming out very cold. Probably just photography brain not remembering to adjust it to be 'correct' for video since it's a non issue shooting raw stills.

[@vincentbaldwin5842]

1.4 is sooo good enough for me. The 1.2 comes with a price that will be crazy.

[@lazerklien5037]

The contrast is simply a camera profile. Set it to vivid and you'll get darker contrast

[@simrtech3d]

you can also add the Sigma 85 1.4 lens because it works on Sony and with the magadap ring on Nikon :D we would have seen if the Sigma 85mm 1.4 is how vs the two mastodons and 1000/2000 € difference depending on the brand :D

[@adamadamis]

It's only one third of a stop difference between 1.4 and 1.2, so it only shows when comparing side to side. The difference in lens bulk, heft and price are much more noticeable. For those who are ok with that, i assume SONY will release a 1.2 version as well, like they did with 50mm.

[@Tonyy.224]

The bokeh from the Nikon 85mm 1.2s is bigger and smooth than the Sony 85 1.4, the green and pink tone so beautiful than sony

[@EdvardKALEN]

There is too much difference in size and weight between lenses. The difference in the picture is felt in the full-length portrait, but for me personally this is not enough. By the way, there is a significant difference between the Z8 and A7 IV - the Z8 sensor is noticeably better, which adds points to it in some aspects.

[@juanjodeejay8856]

F1.4❤

[@luyin1961]

Very helpful video. How good is the flare resistance for these lenses? Many shots with light behind seem to have been taken without lens hood.

[@davidg2927]

Thanks for the video. I would like a video regarding focusing. I have a Sony and I have the hardest time with focusing on subjects. Thank you.

[@albertogvphoto]

for my the best SONY 85MM 1.4 II , Thanks for this video Julia

[@bopoh3000]

I would be interested you to compare the Bokeh of "old" GM and the newer one. Lots of reviews show that the "Old" GM has a bigger and "dream-look" bokeh. Perhaps keeping the old one is the best option.

[@seraiahnicole1436]

love this!

[@ethanhanes9005]

Hey Julia!! Great video!! I was wondering, what kind of camera strap do you use? I didn't see it in your description. Thanks againnnn! Beautiful photos!

[@hikertrashfilms]

Moneymaker

[@mrdarryljones1]

Great stuff!👍🏾

[@ludovicgrignou]

Merci pour cette vidéo !

[@_planejoe_]

Love this comparrison! How are you recording the video from the cameras?

[@Syxflicks]

I need to know the answer as well. But it seems like no one really knows.

[@livejames9374]

Honestly haven’t been the biggest fan of the GMii bokeh. It’s super sharp, optically clean and blazing fast af, and a nice size and weight but bokeh is a let down compared to original GM and even the sigma 85. In this comparison the 85 1.2 really shines, even with both at F2 the 1.2 lens looked better having softer bokeh and more circular to edge. I’d bet Sony will make a 85 1.2

[@vincentbaldwin5842]

Nice

[@MartinV.]

Great Video

[@RussandLoz]

Those differences will never be noticed by the client, its really for our satisfaction, which is fine. Shame Nikon released a 1.4 range that might not be pro as I hate the weight of the 1.2's.

[@livejames9374]

You think those same clients will notice the difference between a budget 1.4 and expensive “pro“ 1.4?

[@RussandLoz]

@@livejames9374 They might if the lens can’t deal with issues like sun flare or other shooting conditions. But hopefully you’re right 😊

[@m0nztam0nk]

Im shocked how big the difference from 1.4 to 1.2 tourns out to be…? I was expecting them to be basically the same, but man. ..the 1.2 Images have that „extra factor“… also the skintones on the nikon have so much dephth…huge fan….

[@Qoobi-Y]

Let's wait for the Sony 85 f0.95 GM 😤😤

[@stefan_becker]

I think Sony's product strategy is to offer smaller lenses and cameras, so we probably won't see an 85mm f0.95 from Sony anytime soon.

[@airjaff]

Will never happen the mount is too small ​@@stefan_becker

[@adamadamis]

​@airjaff that's proven wrong many times. It can go to f/0.67 if they want. But that'd be pointless.

[@jasontaycs7195]

@@airjaff Funny cos Nikon F mount was even smaller. So is Leica M mount. That's an extremely old myth that came about from bias. Not fact.

[@marcusbeasley3212]

Never happening. They couldn't even follow the industry trend and make an 85 1.2. Then it also turns into whether they want to make a high end manual focus lens because no .95 lens in existence has auto focus.

[@MrKeith57]

The question for me is how postproduction with the Z6iii would compare

[@lsaideOK]

I don't recall you mentioning the price difference which is considerable

[@chiefdispatcher]

I would be interested in comparing Sony and Panasonic with the same lenses. But in this case, the Nikon lens looks better in terms of color rendering and the picture is somehow more alive and airy.

[@nickwilliams7867]

colour rendering is down to the editing unless you deliver unedited photos

[@chiefdispatcher]

@@nickwilliams7867 not always

[@Hamsong]

The Nikon is an impressive lens, despite being the size of a human skull and literally twice as heavy and $800 more. The results look so close, but since the difference is very subtle, I prefer the lighter, smaller Sony. Of course, none of this matters if you don’t shoot the mount of the lens you prefer. I’m glad Sony went with f1.4 on this update because it kept the size manageable, but I suspect an f1.2 version may be coming for those that don’t mind all the extra weight.

[@dje7917]

Maybe nikon best lens overall?

[@RTReview.]

Now get yourself the amazing Z 135 1.8 S Plena

[@livejames9374]

Julia doesn’t like the 135 focal length that much.

[@MehediiRaj]

❤❤

[@물에비친달-t5m]

sony 135mm 1.8 gm vs nikon 135mm f 1.8 plena . 언제 필요하시려나?

[@hikertrashfilms]

Plena destroys the GM.

[@volgrenfanbus1294]

Can you do a review on the Canon R5 Mark II because that's the new camera that Canon release.

[@shahriarshawon21]

I am Bangladeshi , when need information for camera i come your Channel to see your review ☺️

[@jaipalreddy4894]

Hi Julia, how can we get best colors on Sony camera ? which profile to use or post processing?

[@michaelcliffordphotos]

@JuliaTrotti I completely agree with you. I liked the look of the 1.2 better than that of the 1.4 when both were wide open. My back would certainly prefer the 1.4, but I still wish that Sony would release a 1.2... What is that camera holster that you are using? Is it comfortable to carry two cameras on it all day? Is it still comfortable with just one camera on it?

[@hikertrashfilms]

Sony can’t make a 85 1.2 due to the 46.1mm size of E-Mount

[@michaelcliffordphotos]

@@hikertrashfilms Why does that prevent making an 85 1.2?

[@hikertrashfilms]

@@michaelcliffordphotos it’s not enough space to allow light to hit the edges of the sensor on a super fast telephoto. Nikon had a 44mm F-Mount since 1959, and could never make an effective 1.2 lens beyond the 58mm focal length. Canon had a 54mm EF mount that debuted in the 80s and they came with their first 85 1.2 in the 80s. It took Nikon over 3 decades to match Canon at 85, and it was when they abandoned the 44mm mount and moved to a 55mm mount.

[@livejames9374]

@@hikertrashfilmsnot true. Nikons F mount limitation was due to mount size AND flange distance. Sony’s short flange distance makes their mount size less of an issue. They can certainly make a 85 1.2. In fact there is already one for e mount made by mitakon

[@DanielRodriguez-fg5ll]

I would bet the drunk person was a canon shooter that felt leftouy

[@test43913]

These were so pretty very dreamy. This is why I love the 85!! I was really surprised how both raw images looked so similar! I was watching on an uncalibrated monitor though. Do the files look almost identical to you Julia? How do skin tones compare? The model is absolutely stunning!!!

[@shanedigby]

Love you Julia ❤

[@Relaxingsounds_pro]

Wow Nikon z8❤

[@mitchellweitzman9329]

The Nikon lens is also more flattering on the model’s skin. The Sony really does just have too much detail and reveals more than you’d want to see.

[@sumetjantakum]

woww

[@valdemarcaballero493]

Hello greetings from México!!!! I love your videos!!!! ONE question.... as you do not use FLASH..... why don´t you use the electronic shutter on both cameras???? you can save some clicks there don´t you??? Thanks for sharing!!!! 🙏🙏🙏

[@esam_soliman_music]

plz help me I bought a Sony A7III and am looking for a lens to shoot bridal, wedding and portrait sessions so that they create stunning images with a special character that competes with other photographers. In your opinion, is tamron 35-150 e mount lens suitable? Or choose one of these options 1_ sigma 85 1.4 dg dn with sigma 24-70 g2 2_ sony 50mm 1.2 3- sigma 28-105. f 2.8

[@Carthodon]

By and large I do not think most people can actually tell the difference between lenses which are above a certain quality, all of the lenses you mentioned meet that standard. For portraits what people notice more is the depth of field, and that's the advantage of having one of those primes. Beyond that, stunning photos happen in your skill with the camera and editing. I'd worry more about getting something you're comfortable with. People get the zooms because they do not want to switch lenses which is a huge advantage in a wedding situation, and the lens with the most versatility would be the tamron or samyang (which is cheaper) 35-150. If this is specific to portrait sessions where you have basically full control over lighting and composition, of this list I'd go with the 85 sigma because its going to have the thinnest depth of field. If you really want to buy the lens with the highest optical performance, a lens I never used but based off what I've seen online, I'd go with the sony 50 1.2.

[@DanielRodriguez-fg5ll]

I did not get why you kept the same ISO. The main point of 1.2 is to allow a lower ISO and hence a cleaner image

[@HikingWithMartin]

the point is shallow depth of field not low iso.

[@DanielRodriguez-fg5ll]

Depends on user but why waste the ISO space. Would you keep the same ISO if you set it up to f2.8? If the answer is no, then iso is best left in auto.

[@DanielRodriguez-fg5ll]

​@@HikingWithMartinlet me rephrase you can have both. Shallow and low ISO. Why she choose to sacrifice one is mind boggling to me. She out the Nikon on an unfair disadvantage

[@HikingWithMartin]

@@DanielRodriguez-fg5ll No it just makes no real world difference, you are fussing about nothing. I dont think you can percieve what is just over a third of a stop difference in iso. in aperture yes, iso you cant, shutter speed you cant. Youd be more correct to look at the camera to subject changes from shot to shot having an impact.

[@DanielRodriguez-fg5ll]

@@HikingWithMartin maybe. but if that is going to be the approach and the model is stationary, I would argue then that the real comparison is to use minim ISO, ISO64 in the Z8, Z9. I mean, if we are going to use an arbitrary ISO (deviating from the one that completes the "triangle"), we might as well pick the lowest to offer the cleanest images.

[@okayzsn]

how do you record screen? thank you!

[@BSmalls9ja]

Hi Julia, please how do you record your camera view?

[@karyleianawildernesscapes]

At the end of the video, where you talk about "bigger/bulkier/heavier" lenses -- I want to point out something that really only gets mentioned sporadically (if at all), the MOUNT SIZE (& function). Nikon Z has the largest mount compared to Sony/Canon/Fuji etc. I guess on the "con" side, this makes Nikon make larger/bulkier/heavier lenses bc the mount lends itself to it. But it has a whole bunch of "pros" that don't get enough attention/mentions/love: the big one being it DOESN'T "bend light" as much, if it all, due to the larger mount & it sitting closer to the sensor. This also allows more light to get to the sensor too, even when shooting higher apertures. As things have shifted to Mirrorless, one of the big complaints has been about "Nikon Z bodies/lenses 'being heavy/bulky'" -- particularly, Sony shooters lol NO HATE, just an observation -- but there is a reason for it & design/functionality involved. Nikon is innovating & pushing gear to the next level, I just don't think it gets talked about in a way that gets as much hype as new Eye-AF tech or something 😅 which is a shame.

[@Tap-a-roo]

There's very little difference between f/1.4 and f/1.2 for bokeh. The DIFFERENCE is the size of the front element, and the Nikon is 5mm larger ... so it will always produce much better results. The same reason a 200mm f/2 will ALWAYS produce better results than a 70-200 f/2.8 even at the same aperture.

[@NCSTalkid]

If your not pro, Wait until nikon relase z 85/1.4 non s. If you are pro just get f1.2s or f1.8s

[@thekittyj]

okay. I just wanna buy the camera which shot the footage next✌🏼😅

[@vishalkingslee9119]

Hi julia plz tell me best ND filter for sony

[@NkanyisoThulani]

Nikon len

[@greggoryburt7919]

The Nikon 85mm never leaves my Z9… of course if you have noodle arms pick the Sony.

[@vinhtang1503]

Could you tell me with information about your camera strap

[@felm.974]

#Nikon 85 1.2 for the win! :)

[@Digitalfiendscom]

Great comparison and I'm a bit shocked with the difference between 1.2 and 1.4 lol. I was wondering, have you noticed that the Sony 85 f1.4 gmii seems slightly zoomed out compared to other 85s? I just picked up the Sony as my first 85, so I have no real frame of reference (other than having the 70-200gmii that I can simulate an 85 with). Do you feel this affects the look images at all (other than just being slightly less zoomed in)...e.g. shape of the face, compression, etc? I know it's pretty minor but sort of bugging me... 😅

[@entphotoentphoto-pn5me]

Sometimes 85mm lenses are not true 85mm. One of sigma 85mm lenses is actually 83mm instead of 85mm, but the lens still labelled as 85mm.

[@HK-NYC]

Wear the hood, reduce the flare

[@Benjamin_Jehne]

Could it be that the Nikkor 85mm F1.2 is a bit longer in focal range, as the Sony? As it is just 1/2 of a stop difference this would answer, why the bokeh seems to be that much bigger. The comparison at F2, the Sony bokeh is round, with the Nikkors bokeh you can see the blades and it has some color fringing around the bokeh balls.

[@livejames9374]

The Sony has cut off bokeh ball circles at f2, top of frame. 7:27

[@Makta972]

The Canon 85mm 1.2 L is even sharper

[@livejames9374]

Nope, I have both

[@myopicshah]

Hi, I'm very new to photography. May I know what kind of device she uses to record what she shoots?

[@bigrobotnewstoday1436]

There is a tad bit of more bokeh with the Nikon but its nothing big to do crazy over. You really have to look at the bokeh to even notice it when the background is far away. When the background is close you can notice it more.

[@michaelmalodrums9674]

@@bigrobotnewstoday1436 that’s not the only difference . The types of lens coatings , how much ghosting do you get in heavy backlit situations which in this video the Nikon did better . Better in the flaring too .

[@bigrobotnewstoday1436]

@@michaelmalodrums9674 True.

[@michaelrc6282]

omg the nikon lens is like holding a rocket launcher lol. i feel like the nikon is more of a luxury lens cause i bet its super expensive. and to your point, i cant imagine carrying that around for long events like weddings.

[@8806gavin]

Nikon 85 1.2 100%

[@nickorafael3887]

did you use aperty to edit these photos?

[@yvonneniemannphotography781]

Do you use UV filters?

[@sgpork]

Every make noise why sony not release 85 1.2. But then they nv realize if its 1.2 it gonna be maybe 1kg or more and probably 1000 usd more. Then they complaint again.

[@adamadamis]

They might release a 1.2 alongside the 1.4, like they did with 50mm. But it's a small difference for a big difference in bulk and cost.

[@joetrent4753]

Other than photographers watching this side by side comparison, will people really be able to tell photos from an f1.4 lens isn’t an f1.2? Most non-photographers wouldn’t know the difference.

[@adamadamis]

@@joetrent4753 no human photographer is able to distinguish 1.2 from 1.4, unless comparing side by side.

[@sgpork]

@@joetrent4753 it’s just about bragging rights if that matters to that individual. Or some people actually enjoy the moment the experience when they knew they are using a f1.2 not f1.4. But yes. If you say in a blind test. Nobody knows.. infact. Nobody will know which brand too. Client wont pay you more if they know you are using f1.2 instead of f1.4 also. Its all about just personal ego or enjoyment. But yea for f1.2 you better be ready and willing to pay more n carry more. Worth it ornot. Its totally up the user themselves. Its just funny when people want f1.2 yet make noise when its heavy and big and more expensive. Lol

[@dragSD666]

Sony can’t make an 1.2 lens because of the smaller mount of the Sony cameras compared to Nikon and Canon