Looks like a clogged head. Many actually wore their heads out attempting to clean the clean heads due to this fault.
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@janetwert9593 Жыл бұрын
This video is like a public service! I have a Sony DCR-TRV320, Sept. 2000. Bought it new. Great shape. Been stored for years. Got it all out to finally transfer/digitize my 8mm and Digital8 tapes. Worked fine for awhile. Then got about 1/2 way thru my 80 tapes (1/2 1 hr. Digital8 & 1/2 2 hr. 8 mm) and it starts dropping out and static like dirty heads. Go to some effort to get a dry cleaning tape. Run it for 10 seconds. Seems better, but then drops and fuzzes again. Run the clean tape again. Same. Woulda likely kept it up when I luckily found this! Your guidance gave me the confidence to tear into my excellent condition machine. A couple additional/different wire connectors on mine (black wires between two halves). but managed to work around. Used deoxit as suggested. Got back together and is now working fine! NEVER would of known or tried this without your video! Thank you very much!
@pipewrenchlynch937 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking time to film and post . Wow that is a LOT of work to do a repair .. however when it is family memories it is worth it . Those Kids are probably now some ones Grand ma ..
@allenschmitz96443 жыл бұрын
My Sony Hi8mm back in 1998 was used and I still had to pay 350 dollars, now I have footage on dvd..oh the format chasing we old timers did just to keep stuff no one with a modern cell phone atten/span of no more than 3sec and 5 is like a 30 sec. commercial to them...love your vids.
@puaspiton Жыл бұрын
Man!! You rock!! I had precisely the same issue with a similar Sony Camera (DCR-TRV740) and I followed your lead and it worked great!! Thank you so much!!
@chancewolf37394 ай бұрын
I've got one of those that exhibited those exact playback problems and also put it down to dirty heads which refused to get clean. Never thought of the ribbon cables oxidizing in that thing - though I've come across exactly that phenomenon in a bunch of other gear. I'll have to revisit the thing now. I have a bunch of Digital 8 tapes to transfer so this couldn't have come at a better time.
@12voltvids4 ай бұрын
They sure do. All the way from the "A" mechanism.
@andrewtyer Жыл бұрын
Outstanding video! It took me longer than it took you, but that's because I often paused the video to ensure I was doing it correctly. I did it correctly! Thanks so much! :)
@EmmettRaccoon2 жыл бұрын
Can’t thank you enough for this video. Got a second hand CCD-TRV66 to transfer tapes since I have a couple tapes that were shot on a Canon L2 that don’t want to play nice with my Digital8 camcorder (annoying audio buzz). Didn’t produce an image but audio was intermittently coming through. I saw this tutorial and thankfully the mechanism was more or less the same, reseated the ribbon cables (didn’t use the contact cleaner in your video) and I got playback and was able to transfer the tapes over passthrough with no audio buzz.
@vetrov8883 жыл бұрын
Great job! I in Russia bought dcr-trv120e out of service for $3)) I hope to fix with your videos!)
@Vintaginside3 жыл бұрын
Another one fixed. Thumbs up Dave.
@stphinkle3 жыл бұрын
I remember that era. In the mid to late 1990s when I ran tech crew in my high school days and early college days for theater shows, I remember the videotaping. A lot of it back then was on Hi8 and SVHS.
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
I did dozens of shows. Pantomime plays ect. If I find some of them I will post as they were a hoot, and VERY politically incorrect. Some of the tunes they sung were darn right racist if you listened to the lyrics. I believe I have all of them here somewhere, just have to find the tapes. I have hundreds, of tapes as I kept pretty much all the master tapes for work I did.
@stphinkle3 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids Back in those days I did lighting and sometimes sound for some musicals, dramas, ballet shows, choir concerts, talent shows, etc. The typical types of plays and shows children and teens did in middle and high school theatres in the mid-1990s in the USA. I am not sure if Canadian Schools middle and high schools have theater and stagecraft classes or not.
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
@@stphinkle yes we had theatre and stagecraft classes. I did lighting and sound reinforcements myself.
@terencemcculloch3294 Жыл бұрын
Good to see you using small screwdrivers there is a joke going around, the smaller the screw the bigger the makita drill.
@dorelgogu86313 жыл бұрын
Nice work! For sure, you can open a Sony video gear museum with working stuff!
@Raptor50aus3 жыл бұрын
Good luck I hope you win the 50K :)
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
I said the slogan so that puts me in the draw if someone at corus sees it.
@MarcelVanHoekElvis Жыл бұрын
Great job, thanks for sharing! Greets from Marcel The Netherlands Europe 👍🙂👌
@gotrees4 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this vid! I have a few questions: I am getting this problem after cleaning my drum with chamois swabs. Is it likely that I damaged one of the heads, or is this problem really just indicative of the connections being messed up? I wasn't having this error before cleaning. Also, is the deoxit is quite expensive for just one use. Is it necessary? Or is there an alternative solution I can use? Thank you!!
@Raptor50aus3 жыл бұрын
I have the Sony TRV120E Digital 8 Handycam. Still working perfect. The ribbon cable looks perfect. It also plays back PAL and NTSC tapes.
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
This one will play pal tapes too. Just digital 8 though. Don't think it will play pal analog.
@josem.martinez8563 жыл бұрын
I have several D8 camcorders. Just for clarification... these camcorders don't output pure NTSC 3.58Mhz signals when playing back NTSC tapes. They output pseudo color systems such as PAL60 or NTSC 4.43. This is usually not a problem when viewing content on a TV but will give you problems when capturing. You need a capture device that understands those color systems. Same applies with NTSC camcorders outputing NTSC 50 when playing back PAL tapes.
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
@@josem.martinez856 that's right and the NTSC camera will play a pal digital 8 tape as will my DV deck and when you capture over FireWire the software has to be set for 50i not 60i. Computers can play they file but if you make a dvd it is a 50i disk that won't play on many domestic players. So frame rate conversion is necessary before turning out a dvd.
@josem.martinez8563 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids Another great feature of some of these camcorders is their ability to work as a passthrough device taking an analog signal as an input and outputting a DV encoded signal out of the firewire port letting you capture from all your analog formats using your favourite NLE. And in the case of PAL, which is 4:2:0, it produces excellent results.
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
@@josem.martinez856 Right. I forget if this one has pass through. Will check. I know the gvd800 and my 2 dcrtrv730 do, but i don't thing this first gen had that feature. It could record an analog signal and then play the tape out the FireWire. I know that for sure as I did that. I used to connect it to my evw300 camera as an external recorder and make some beautiful recordings. A 3ccd hyper HAD camera into a digital recorder using component recording. (Svideo is a component signal car by the way. Called Y/VU and the other type of component is YcRcB which used 3 conductors vs 2.) They both deliver the same results.
@TheBlindingwhite3 ай бұрын
Came across this video searching for problems with my DCR-TRV103. Hopefully this works.
@shaunvaldez49602 жыл бұрын
I just got a camcorder from eBay and this exact thing is happening! Do you do mail in repairs?!
@AbdulRazzaqFilms Жыл бұрын
This looks like the problems i had too in recent days. My Video8 Handycam, CCD-TRV(forgot the number), had a lot of noise throughout the playback. When i hit record there's an error message "cleaning cassettes" meaning that i have to put the cleaning cassettes; but i do couple times and still got error messages. When i playing back the cassettes on other camcorder it's normal. If i can ask, are the camcorders in this video are facing the same error messages when recording? Maybe i wanna try this action, but i have to collect the guts to disassembled. I always afraid if the problem are the flex, because there's no new spare available on the market, especially in my country. Thank you! Appreciate this.
@flowstate_link3 жыл бұрын
Looks like I have the same problem. Before I pull this apart have a 8mm deck I will try these tapes are not digital so that may be a go… gotta do this fix it seems like it will be like new! Thanks
@zx8401ztv3 жыл бұрын
You need to keep that camera in the warmest place in the house, keep the damp out and less chance for the connectors to corrode, and fox up :-D
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
It's kept in my edit suite and it is climate controlled and dry. In addition to the HVAC for the house there is a seperate Ac in the wall that I turn on when working in the summer and have all the equipment on. Gets pretty warm. So moisture not a problem in here. AC is a dehumidifier
@ZackeryMoreland2 жыл бұрын
I just started converting my 8mm tapes to digital and I'm using a Sony CCD-TRV82 for output to desktop. I'm breaking each segment into 1 hrs blocks and once the tape has stopped or I see no more recording was done on the tape I stop and eject it. I then place the tape in a Sony CCD-TR614 only to rewind the tapes. I got to a row of tapes that started to not be watchable when I tried the transfer yet the TRV82 timer would still be counting showing the tape had been recorded on. Anyhow, I went back to the first tapes I documented what was on them and now I can't watch any of the output from the TRV82. The last thing done with the tape was being rewind by the TR614, ejected, and placed back in the case. I have almost 16 tapes I was able to view now be unable to view on known good camcorder. I also tried on another TRV-460 and it too will not play back the tapes. So my question is did I just ruin all my tapes running it through a non HI8 / Digital 8 camcorder just by rewinding?? I'm stumped, in less than a week my tapes were good to non playable and only were in the two camcorders. Sorry for long winded but hope you're able to help with my issue. Thank you.
@enzoperruccio3 жыл бұрын
Got a CCD-TRV58 here with a similar issue (noisy playback, no record). Tried this out and the only result I got was a damaged loading motor connector that now randomly looses connecting and throws the camera into emergency shutdown. I also messed up the alignment thinking it was that. At first I did want to fix it, but now that I got two other cameras that work this one turned into my dedicated tape rewinder cause that's the only thing it's useful for (apart from chewing tapes during playback haha).
@user-fv9wi1cc1m Жыл бұрын
Tell me, is this camera capable of playing cassettes recorded in PAL?
@andrewroach46352 жыл бұрын
These videos are amazing! Thank you. I'm learning a bit about my camera but not quite enough just yet. I have a very similar model to this one but it's not digital. I believe my model is the TRV308. My issue that I'm having with my camera is that the output doesn't seem to work. The camera plays back fine in the viewfinder however when I try to watch my tapes on a TV I get no signal on the TV. I've tried different TV's and different cables. I have the 3.5mm AV Out port and the SVideo out. The SVideo works but sends the image in B/W. Any tips on what the issue might be and how I can watch my old 8mm videos on the TV?
@oouje Жыл бұрын
I'm having this problem in a Sony TRV 280 Digital 8, is it similar in the inside to follow this tutorial?
@oouje Жыл бұрын
Yeah it seems to be the exact problem, have you made a video with that camera body? or should I try to use this as a guide
@cod4Rlp Жыл бұрын
Hi, I have two cameras with this exact problem, I've tried reseating connectors and cleaning the heads with tapes and later with a small piece of paper + acetone as shown in one of your other videos. Is there anything else I could do or is it a lost cause? Both are Sony Hi8 Models. I have fixed countless camcorders thanks to you!
@12voltvids Жыл бұрын
Have you done the fingernail cleaning? Alcohol won't cleaned a head clogged with metal paryicals from tape. Has to be scrapped off and the back of fingernail works great. Acetone or other harsh chemicals could dissolve the glue that holds the head chip on the mount. Xylene used to be used at the tv station I worked at but it will ruin plastic and rubber parts.
@flowstate_link3 жыл бұрын
How important is the oxide stripping chemical worth a try with just reseating the connectors?
@waleed91283 жыл бұрын
I have the exact camera but I was getting horizontal lines on tv when playing the video. When I record on tape and play back I get the same lines. Any ideas?
@fu22012 жыл бұрын
How can you tell if it is the camera of the old 8mm tape that has degraded over the year that is the issue??? I bought an old used 8mm cam to transfer old hi8 tapes and they are very grainy and dark to view. A lot of skipping
@12voltvids2 жыл бұрын
Old used camera likely has bad caps. Those of us in the archiving business don't use old cameras and maintain our playback equipment all the time. I use the last generation digital 8 with analog playback capability myself.
@deathwarrant911 Жыл бұрын
where do you get a cleaning tape for these? i see alot of over priced ones?
@12voltvids Жыл бұрын
I have a few from way back. Every new camera used to cone with one.
@unknowndude12823 жыл бұрын
What kinda of grease would you recommend to use on some of the mechanisms?
@mrnmrn13 жыл бұрын
The SP only is true for analog tape playback only, or it's unable play and record LP in D8 mode as well?
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
I believe it will play LP analog, however I have no analog LP tapes to try in it. Never used LP. I dont even know if any of the cameras I have have LP. Definitely it will not plat LP digital 8 tapes.
@FindLiberty3 жыл бұрын
*THANK YOU !!!* Just those connectors? Amazing. (I've got a couple of these too; not sure of the generation) You've sure seen/repaired a lot of electronic "stuff" over the decades. Wow, Dave. Do you still have a working 3/4" Umatic unit in order offer archive-to-digital for your customers? What kind of magic do you know about solving the slipping "threading ring" problem on a VO-1600? (push it with finger, lol) I used to just replace them while working at Sony, quite some time ago...
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
Yes i have 4 umatic and they all worked last time I turned them on but who knows today. I just got a umatic in to change belts. Will be on that this week.
@FindLiberty3 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids AMAZING - Old tape can be very messy as it breaks down and gums up everything. An oven pre-bake and then wind into another shell may be required even for your own test/align tapes. Take care, stay safe.
@fadhlematrook12483 жыл бұрын
i just repair 2 digital8 and 2 hi8 cameras by cleaning connectors only...your video is great help me to do this>
@rocketfiles4383 Жыл бұрын
Hi: I am retired and started digitizing photo and video family media to keep busy. Recently dug into the box containing Hi8 tapes and the camera and have had the tape break in both of the first two cassetts I tried to play. While disassembling and splicing the breaks, I think I am noticing a white crusty residue between the rolled tape edge and the inside surface of the plastic reel. I believe this contamination is sticking the tape to sequential turns such that when the tape is unwound by the player, it initiates a long diagonal tear from that point. Have you seen this problem and what do you do to fix it? Thank you, Bert Please reply and I'll check back.
@12voltvids Жыл бұрын
That's mold and there is a procedure to deal with it. I have a video showing how i have done it. It's a tedious time consuming procedure that involves spooling the tape by hand while stretching the tape out to force the tape tighter onto the reel causing the tape pack to slip between the tape layers
@Dr.-Smart3 жыл бұрын
quick question about tapes , which type of 8mm cassette (like ceramic or metal particle) do you recomment ? im looking for tapes that have a good shelf life /wont wear down video heads/sticky tape
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
I was never a fan of the ME tapes because the early ones I tried were terrible. Many of the MP tapes were also crap. I believe the later ME tapes were better. All my miniDV tapes are ME as that is all they made and they have all held up well.
@Dr.-Smart3 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids so what your saying is i should pick *recent* made ME tapes , ok thanks :)
@flowstate_link3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I hope I don’t need to pull it apart… but maybe I am going to… fingers crossed just heads… do you have tips for using head cleaning taps in this series of digital 8 cameras
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
Only use dry type cleaning tapes and follow directions on the tape. (Insert tape, press play run for 10 seconds and eject without rewinding.)
@flowstate_link3 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids thanks for the comment I have no idea how to tell if I have dry type. It has digital 8 symbol and is from Sony… this is digital 8 player and from Sony. … no instructions like maybe digital 8 is used for computer gear possibly
@flowstate_link3 жыл бұрын
It got better after cleaning but I think one of the heads is oxidised like in your video would need to test with digital tape to know for sure
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
@@flowstate_link That's a dry type tape. The wet cleaners you put liquid cleaner in. Alsop was a brand. These permanently disabled many VCRs and cameras by breaking guides off when they jammed.
@flowstate_link3 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids wow good to know!!!!!!
@vetrov8883 жыл бұрын
And when I was a kid, I had a Sony ccd-f350e. The 90s model and its matrix are better than these from the 2000s and there is no digital noise cancellation of the picture and this is cool. I hope to fix it)) They all had a disease, over time the drum stopped spinning. The problem is condensers, there are a lot of them?
@vetrov8883 жыл бұрын
*I apologize - capacitors, not condenser
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
Used to call them condensers i knew what you were getting at. Yes all the surface mount caps are bad. The bigger issue is they cause a cancer on the board. The PCB is multi layer. The caustic liquid that spills out if the caps soaks into the board and eats the traces destroying the board. So you could change all the caps and still have a dead camera. I refuse these jobs and only attempt it on cameras that are given to me and if i can't fix I toss it away.
@vetrov8883 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids Do you say cancer? It is, I understand, about PolyChlorinated Biphenyl (PCB) and dioxin, not printed circuit board, as the translator translated to me) I heard about these substances, but thought that they were used only in Soviet industry. Googled and realized that the ancestor of the notorious Monsanto. And the big customer was the American armed forces during Operation Ranch Hand in South Vietnam. Thank you very much for the warning, respect! Sorry, if I don't understand, I don't speak English, I use a translator.
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
@@vetrov888 It was referred to a camcorder cancer. Not Cancer as in the disease that people get. Camcorder cancer was a term used to indicate that the circuit board was shot. Unrepairable, due to corrosion from caustic electrolyte from capacitor leakage.
@vetrov8883 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids Oh, funny, spoiled translator)) So you can calmly carpet the board, clean the tracks from corrosion with electrolyte and change smd capacitors without fear of health? But the Soviet industry is so harsh that it really used biphenyls in capacitors. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pILIhIFpfrmlhKc. I hope you can translate an interesting video in Russian.
@KylesDigitalLab3 жыл бұрын
Dave, can you do a video on how to fix a Digital8 camcorder that zooms in by itself? My DCR-TRV520 zooms in by itself. When I open up the flap to expose the tape mechanism it stops zooming in.
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
You just answered your own question. Either the flex cable or the 't" switch.
@user-fv9wi1cc1m Жыл бұрын
Good afternoon. Do you have heads for this camcorder for sale?
@12voltvids Жыл бұрын
No, I don't. I have 4 units that use the same drum so i would be keeping any spares for myself if i had any. Same goes for the newer bottom loading chassis. I have 2 of those machines. I use these for my digitizing service and put probably 100 hours a month on the camreas. The only ones I sell parts from are units I don't use for conversions.
@jossyd85313 жыл бұрын
how can i fix jvc dx-u10 software thing ; when i touch USB button its goes to DVD Or other source TAPE -A OR TAPE-B
@kyoudaiken3 жыл бұрын
Get contact cleaner like Deoxit or other products and clean the switches. It probably uses a resistor latter to determine which button was pressed. If the switches are dirty, the resistance changes and the button does something unexpected cause the micro reads another voltage than the button should apply through the resistor latter. Dave L Jones made a video about it when he repaired the control panel of an old AC unit.
@allenschmitz96443 жыл бұрын
1999 the format war was over...digital won..now phones do 4G and so dose my drone.
@jamesharris5034 Жыл бұрын
Do you repair cameras
@12voltvids Жыл бұрын
Sometimes yes. No guarantees that I can do anything due to parts availability.
@jamesharris5034 Жыл бұрын
Thank you ! I ran a head cleaner through it , it’s playing , how long I don’t know .. I got your contact now
@reminder_cor3 жыл бұрын
I have this model, or very similar
@reminder_cor3 жыл бұрын
Mine has mini dv connection but it is not always detected by the computer. I have checked several cables but it still being detected in an aleatory way...
@josem.martinez8563 жыл бұрын
@@reminder_cor I wouldn't necessary blame the camcorder for that. It's more than likely a software issue.
@superskateboardingentertai92282 жыл бұрын
how the hell did he know this?
@12voltvids2 жыл бұрын
Well, for starters i am a diagnostic engineer. I know how these things work.
@timcraig2682 жыл бұрын
Interesting, but my time is more valuable. I'd just rather buy another used camera from eBay.
@12voltvids2 жыл бұрын
Roll the dice and take your chances. Most of the old cameras up for sale have problems. Send the tapes out to be digitized professionally is best option as if tapes are moldy they can be demolded at same time.
@timcraig2682 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids That's what we do is professionally digitize all media, Umatic-as well as other early television video audio, consumer media. There are plenty of reliable eBay sellers ie "doctor-sony". Thanks for the video regardless.
@amatorev3 жыл бұрын
Bad connectors again again!
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
It's an ongoing problem. Always has and hasn't gotten better with age that's for sure.
@amatorev3 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids hmm 🤔 yes
@paulkeates1243 жыл бұрын
$50.000 it,s a scam .
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
No, it's a real contest by the radio station. Ratings time, they do it to drum up listeners. Been talking about it all week. Not a scam. In the 90s i won 1040.00 from 1040 kicks back when they were a music station. Still have the sticker from them stuck on my old still functional microwave from the day. Their contest, the phrase that pays. They would make random phone calls and you had to answer the phone 10:40 kicks butt. If you said that you won the 1040 prize. They would always let listeners know the call was coming sometime in the next hour or so.. I was working at the TV shop and the boss would make me take lunch at 12:00 and I had to be back at 12:30 if I was one minute late he would chew my ass. So I was heading back to work in my car and I heard the DJ say they'd be making the call within the next hour, soon as I get back to the shop the boss and the salesman take off with a sales rep from Sony or Panasonic for lunch and I'm alone by myself in the store and now I have to answer phones. About 5 minutes after they left the phone rings and just instinctively I picked it up and instead of saying the name of the shop I said 1040 kicks butt and suddenly music started playing on the phone and all this excitement and I damn near had a heart attack they were recording it, the station was still playing music while the call is going on they recorded it and then at the end of that song they played it back I never said a word because the boss that SOB he was probably would have wanted the cash. I had to pick it up in person so I called in sick the next day so I could go down and claim my cash. 10 brand new sequential 100 bills and 2 20s. Because these bills were brand new and sequential I never spent hang on to them for many years and then the bank announced that the old paper currency would no longer be acceptable because it lacked the security features that the new currency has and they had a deadline to get rid of all the old stuff so I went to the bank and deposited and the teller was quite amazed because she hadn't seen these old style bills in many years it was almost worth keeping but seeing a grand become just useless paper was something I couldn't do. Just at the beginning of this year Canada has devalued the old one and $2 bills as they were taken out of circulation many years ago.
@MrChrisRP3 жыл бұрын
Macroblocking :)
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
Not macroblocking, signal missing from 1 head. On DV this would result in perfect bands of frozen picture, but on digital 8, because the tracks are stacked, the sections or frozen picture are staggered throughout the picture.
@MrChrisRP3 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids ahhh I hear ya. I saw some rectangles because of what you just wrote, so I automatically equated them to what happens with low bitrate/poor codec.
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
@@MrChrisRP bit rate on digital 8, miniDV and DVCam are identical. 25m bits. File size 12 gigs per hour.
@MrChrisRP3 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids That's quite high for the back in the day technology, for sure. I never used any of those formats before. heh