My in-depth review of the Sony A7 IV for stills photography! Sony A7 IV at B&H: bhpho.to/3G4L4dc // WEX UK: tidd.ly/3vzrq4n Buy Gordon a coffee: www.paypal.me/cameralabs Gordon's In Camera book: amzn.to/2n61PfI / Amazon uk: amzn.to/2mBqRVZ Cameralabs merchandise: redbubble.com/people/cameralabs/shop Gordon’s retro gear channel: kzbin.info Equipment used for producing my videos Sony A6400: amzn.to/3hul53c Sony e 24mm f1.8: amzn.to/2TqWNzk Rode NT USB mic: amzn.to/3AdHcUp Rode Wireless Go II mic: amzn.to/3xkCvGo Rode Lavalier Go mic: amzn.to/3ygzzKY Godox UL150 light: amzn.to/2VpVbXE Godox QR-P70 softbox: amzn.to/3yQfGdF MacBook Pro 13in (16GB / 512GB): amzn.to/3hrwMYD 00:00 - intro 01:27 - A7 IV vs A7 III design and controls 03:19 - A7 IV vs EOS R6 design and controls 04:23 - A7 IV controls and exposures 05:50 - A7 IV screen and menus 06:58 - A7 IV viewfinder EVF 07:33 - A7 IV card slots 08:26 - A7 IV battery 08:47 - A7 IV ports 10:09 - A7 IV sensor 11:09 - A7 IV vs A7 III vs EOS R6 resolution 12:06 - A7 IV vs A7 III vs EOS R6 high ISO noise 14:00 - A7 IV stabilization IBIS 14:49 - A7 IV focus and burst speeds 18:02 - A7 IV rolling electronic shutter 18:47 - A7 IV samples and verdict Music: www.davidcuttermusic.com / @dcuttermusic As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases
@marcelopradostudios27192 жыл бұрын
Hi good morning Gordon, in your opinion what is the best camera to buy, nikon Z5 or Z6? Please me help, thanks…
@yourmommashouse2 жыл бұрын
did you shoot this on 6400? I noticed in the section showing the doors opened to show the ports like headphone jack, the AF wasn't uniform. one time it showed the port, but the other times the doors edge. surprised you use AF while locked off on static shots
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
@@yourmommashouse yes I shot on the A6400. i often use a mix of MF and AF on the details, as I sometimes need to change the exact focusing point mid-shot. I had to change it for each of the ports as they were at slightly different distances.
@foxtowercommunications2 жыл бұрын
Hey @GordonLaing - Thorough and insightful review as ever. ** Two issues I am curious about. Can you please ask Sony if it's the same problem--prone shutter as the A7III. Also, do you know if it has the same striping issues with heavily backlit subjects. Thanks so much! -C.M.
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
@@foxtowercommunications what was the problem with the older shutter? And no I didn't see any striping issues, but then I also didn't try it with heavily backlit subjects.
@atalk1432 жыл бұрын
Gordon - All I can is say "holy bleep". Your videos continue to be the most thorough and objective on YT. Much appreciated.
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, they take a 'bleeping' long time to put together!
@wilhelmgzh_85732 жыл бұрын
FINALLY!!!!!! Deep handgrip, smooth touch menu and BIG AF-ON button!!! That is a good camera
@MaverickChristian2 жыл бұрын
One notable thing about the electronic shutter is that you can fine tune the shutter speed to fight against banding. I can see that being very useful for e.g., wedding photographers who want to be discreet.
@alsteiner76022 жыл бұрын
No doubt! I know I will use it
@hardywoodaway9912 Жыл бұрын
only stacked sensors are fast enough to shoot in that scenarios. I personally would never use the electronic shutter in the a7iii or iv. Also the mechanical shutter in the a7iv is very quiet anyway
@MaverickChristian Жыл бұрын
@@hardywoodaway9912 Only stacked sensors are fast enough to shoot in most situations _without_ requiring fine-tuning the shutter speed. (Even in that case though, there are exceptions.) Best I can tell a relatively slow sensor can fight banding with the right shutter speed (you can do that with the Sony a7iii, for example, but its flexibility is very limited so that you can't do it in all banding situations).
@danivar862 жыл бұрын
This was the most informative review of the camera of all I've watched so far, which are quite a few. Especially with the comparisons against its biggest rival, the R6. Great work!
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
Thankyou. I wish it had more views, some of the others have 10-15x more.
@danivar862 жыл бұрын
@@cameralabs That is disappointing. I suspect some amounts going into boosting their reach but I guess everyone does these days. I can't change the numbers but what I can do is buy you a cup of coffee. Cheers from Sweden!
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
@@danivar86 much appreciated, cheers!
@3VAudioVideo2 жыл бұрын
@@cameralabs I would run an IT Load Test to give you 15X more hits (or even enough to crash the KZbin servers) but don't want to go to jail ;) Your videos ROCK! Especially since you do Astro stuff too. I wonder if the mark IV is still a Sony Star Eater camera :( Hope not. I was planning to get the R6 as my 1st FF but this one looks like a better fit, for me. Thanks, Gordon.
@willidevegt88312 жыл бұрын
Gordon your camera reviews have always been the best and it still continues to be the best. Thanks for the upload
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@ozwrangler.c2 жыл бұрын
Great info, thanks Canon R6 is cheaper in 🇦🇺 , but not when you factor in cost of Canon lenses
@DiaNWeICN2 жыл бұрын
That's why I made the decision to switch from R6 to A7 IV. The lens selection is way better than Canon so far. R6 is a great camera though.
@SwapnilBhartiya2 жыл бұрын
Lens prices are same. Canon is known for it's glass.
@SwapnilBhartiya2 жыл бұрын
@@DiaNWeICN LOL . I went for Canon purely for their best of breed glass.
@DiaNWeICN2 жыл бұрын
@@SwapnilBhartiya They are both great systems with great glasses. Just personal taste. Here in Australia, Canon lens are way more expensive than Sony lenses.
@muznahid2 жыл бұрын
I bought my canon eos 500D in 2009, I used to watch your reviews on your website. Fast forward many years, I’m watching your reviews for my next camera. Thank you Gordon 👍🏻
@ondrasheq212 жыл бұрын
You are a rare phenomenon who knows how to do good in-depth review :) Thanks
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
Thankyou!
@KONAMAN1002 жыл бұрын
Staggering detailed review in such short time since launch. Tremendous work.
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, but I did have it for over a week before the launch, as did the other reviewers, so we all had the same time. I worked 12 hour days while I had it.
@KONAMAN1002 жыл бұрын
@@cameralabs yeah, but even so... That was detail man. Brilliant.
@vpr55622 жыл бұрын
Best camera value - 2nd hand a73. Thnx Gordon!
@woodyyu39452 жыл бұрын
The one key advantage of the Canon R6 over the a74 is the burst speed: 20fps versus 10fps, that is SIGNIFICANT. Like, night and day significant. This huge R6 advantage is not even mentioned in Gordon's review, why? How can the a74 "take the lead" while falling so short in this key area?
@IustinPop2 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget the Sony drops to 6 FPS if you enable any kind of compression for the RAW files (either lossless or lossy compression) - according to Jared.
@michaelbell752 жыл бұрын
@@IustinPop Also, the rolling shutter on the a7IV looks awful.
@FantabMedia2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelbell75 It's 26ms. That's not great but it's better than the R6.
@JordanCS132 жыл бұрын
@@FantabMedia No, it's not. Other tests have shown the A7IV electronic readout is 1/15s, vs 1/50s and 1/60s on the R6 and R5, respectively.
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
Well it depends which features are most important o each person AND also how practically they can be achieved. As you know, the 20fps on the Canon is with the electronic shutter, so prone to skewing AND it only works with a full battery and specific lenses. Once you take everything into consideration, the R6 becomes most commonly closer to 12fps, which is its top mech speed.
@chriss22952 жыл бұрын
Gordon does the most comprehensive and insightful videos…Always. Thank you, Gordon! Long time subscriber.
@acme95382 жыл бұрын
Great review once again Gordon. I appreciate the straight forward approach, and that you remain honest with what you like / dislike. Great that you compare it to Canon as well. I'm an 'enthusiast' with an a7iii, and while I appreciate all the significant upgrades, my budget doesn't allow me to upgrade to the a7iv at this time. It will be interesting to see how much of a price-drop we will see on 'used' a7iii bodies with the release of the a7iv . . . . .thank you for putting out a great review!
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@antant062 жыл бұрын
As a pure hobbyist in Australia taking photos during vacations and family events, I'll stay with the a7iii, because the cost of upgrading to an a7iv will mean at least one additional GM lens purchase for me.
@dpfreedman2 жыл бұрын
Another stellar effort, Gordon. Thank you. Sony seems as reluctant to give us focus bracketing as they have been with the rear touch screen. The in-built focus bracketing on my Fuji camera is outstanding. One other observation: While the fully articulating screen is very appealing for video makers, that feature totally kills the possibility of using "L" brackets on the camera. For some of us firmly rooted in the stills world, that is a not insignificant issue. Looking forward to part 2.
@NeXMaX2 жыл бұрын
That last bit is why I didn't like fully-articulating screen mechanisms, despite their objective benefits in flexibility.
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@brianlaunchbury44912 жыл бұрын
I don't have any issues using a fully articulated screen with an L bracket, not having it would be a deal breaker.
@dpfreedman2 жыл бұрын
@@brianlaunchbury4491 Waist level landscape orientation with the screen angled is most definitely not possible with an "L" bracket + fully articulating panel.
@mrmeowpuss2 жыл бұрын
Really great review Gordon, I really appreciate these photography only reviews! I had the A7III but decided to swap over to the Canon R6 and I'm glad I did as I don't feel I'm missing out on anything with the A7IV, especially at $4000 AUD.
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
The R6 is a really good camera...
@dandelionestudios2 жыл бұрын
Why did you change from a7iii to r6? What differences do you find?
@mrmeowpuss2 жыл бұрын
@@dandelionestudios At the time, The R6 had a few features the A7III didn’t have like the fully articulating screen and much better AF (Since the A7III never got the real time tracking update). Also because I had too many lenses on Sony, I could make the swap without any loss so that made it easier. Now the A7IV is out I wouldn’t mind the 33mp but it isn’t something I really care about but there’s small features on the Canon like the Bulb Timer that I find really useful. Lens wise Sony has some really great options and if I had the money I’d honestly own both systems but here in Australia the A7IV is a few hundred cheaper than the A7RIV so I don’t feel it’s as good value.
@tscott68432 жыл бұрын
This might be the first t8me I have been the 1st viewer of a video. Love your content.
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your support!
@RumourHasitYT2 жыл бұрын
Great review Gordon. Very informative as usual. But topping out at 10fps and cropped 4/60 means it’s hardly a worthy successor to the camera that ate Canon and Nikons lunch three years ago
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Depends, really, how much you value all the small video enhancements. For me they did everything they feasibly could for the money, as stacked CMOS or 4k 120 remains higher-end.
@RumourHasitYT2 жыл бұрын
@@cameralabs they are finding themselves struggling with canons dilemma. How to upgrade a camera without damaging the other tiers
@lionellow1052 жыл бұрын
@@RumourHasitYT They honestly did everything they could without overlapping with other tiers. What else would you have done if you were the company?
@F1REBEARD2 жыл бұрын
Leaving 4k60 uncropped would not eat market share of their high end cameras, as they also can do 4k120
@alsteiner76022 жыл бұрын
@@lionellow105 easy--10 fps uncompressed. That compromises nothing
@TTWGD32 жыл бұрын
I honestly find it insulting Sony is still using those shite screens at 1 million dots on anything costing more than 2 grand. I thought they finally learned their lesson when they upgraded the screens on the a7rIIIa and the a7rIVa but no they did not.
@kifley192 жыл бұрын
Thats unacceptable in 2022 since that's when the camera will be delivered. Plus the 4k crop is bogus.
@eos1d32 жыл бұрын
They just lose a customer 😂 The LCD and 6fps is deal breaker. Very likely to get R5 after waiting this.
@AustinRoss2 жыл бұрын
@@eos1d3 you won't be disappointed... but don't expect Adobe to support your files lol ... 3 year old camera the EOS R / RP and they still don't support it lol
@eos1d32 жыл бұрын
@@AustinRoss all Canon cameras are supported since 1D by Adobe. Which universe are you from?😆
@longrider95512 жыл бұрын
Gordon as always great work, I use Sony but I am passing on this model. I was hoping for a more usable electronic shutter for wildlife. I wish they would make an "A9 crop camera". This is a great camera for video folks with a nice bump in resolution, good to see all these companies pushing the envelope and competing for our hard earned money.
@bioliv12 жыл бұрын
I follow you, I'll wait for the a7V, if my a7III breaks I'll get another.
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, a more affordable model with a stacked sensor would be nice. Maybe the GH6 will be it? PS - thanks for the coffee and all your support!
@shahabh21082 жыл бұрын
I double that! The alpha apsc line is too crippled rn. Even the dials and body shape is far from a convenient shape sony already had in their slt models like a77... It's funny how A77 had 12fps back in 2011! Shake a leg Sony!
@sjsphotog2 жыл бұрын
FANTASTIC. The BESTdetailed IN DEPTH review over all the upgrades and features of the new A7iv Ive seen to date. Greta job Gordon!!! you rock. This camera ticks all my boxes that I wanted and gave some extra surprises I didnt expect (dust prevention over shutter when off!!!) . I cant wait to have enough $$ to be able to get my own a7iv down the road.... looijung forward to part 2 (even though I dont care about the video side of things as im a photo centric shooter, and your more detailed review once hyou get a real production model in house for real world testing and can get Adobe to edit the RAW files.
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@akkarparkiamopas34012 жыл бұрын
Honestly, Your review is the best among other youtubers. Clear in detail in each section. I am looking forward to seeing DR test and Noise handling when you have RAW available. Cheers
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I put a LOT of work into it!
@cohoonatube2 жыл бұрын
As always, great job Gordon! Ticked off every box for me aside from a higher rez rear LCD and Stacked sensor (one can hope :D). Still loving my stop-gap Z6ii and waiting to see if the Z9 brings the lower models some firmware af improvement, otherwise I'll be on a Sony & Tammy bandwagon soon. The colors also seem improved to my eyes... I was surprised I liked the Sony better than the R6.
@AustinRoss2 жыл бұрын
I definitely think you should rent both the R6 and the A73 (A74 likely won't be available for some time). I had (have the R6) both and the color science on the Canon is just no comparison. Sony takes good looking photos, but if you're going to be shooting people or animals or anything... color just isn't there.
@robmcd2 жыл бұрын
@@AustinRoss thanks for this comment. I left Sony for the colours but I’m dreaming of a lightweight weathersealed 35mm.
@glenhar12252 жыл бұрын
Refreshingly concise and to-the-point reviews. No fluff, right stuff.
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, that's what I aim for!
@charliipresley2 жыл бұрын
Still seems like the Canon R6 is a better “box” than the a7 iv for the same price. But when you factor the lenses and ecosystem as a whole the Sony a7iv is probably a better choice …
@akkarparkiamopas34012 жыл бұрын
We are looking forward to seeing the comparison between a7RIII and a7IV in term of Dynamic Range. I think this will answer if A7RIII owner should swap to A7IV. So far, the only thing we can see is just the megapixels, the thing that we gonna lose if swap to a7IV.
@rickymcc86242 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gordon. Another great, informative review. Just sold my a7r4 body as no option to save Raw at less than full 61Mp, which for many use cases was complete overkill. Now pre-ordered an a7iv - as you say it's the one to beat. Canon R6, although good, is academic now as I'm circa 10 lenses into the Sony ecosystem. 3 years back I switched from Nikon after 28 years and couldn't contemplate doing anything like that again wirot the being a substantial advantage Vs Sony. So most unlikely now I will ever switch again as Sony appear to want to remain a serious camera player.
@nogerboher52662 жыл бұрын
A 2,700 EUR camera that can't shoot 10 FPS uncompressed, has no focus stacking, no focus bracketing, no top LCD, no vehicle tracking and so on and so forth... I am not sold on this camera. In fact... I am disappointed. Looks like I will be waiting 2-3 more years to upgrade or will just switch to Canon.
@joits2 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate the review being in two parts. I don't do video at all, have no interest in it now or in the future so I am glad just to focus on reviews on the photography aspect of the camera rather than sit through the portions that focus on the video capabilities.
@1barnet12 жыл бұрын
Damn Gordon you work fast. Such an long extensive test ready right on the review embargo. Enough information available for informed buying decissions before they can be found on the shelves. Good good job.
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome! Make sure you watch both videos!
@richmediafilms Жыл бұрын
Very in depth. Now time for the part 2
@cameralabs Жыл бұрын
Thanks, hope you enjoy part 2!
@ozwrangler.c2 жыл бұрын
What the hell with the loud mechanical shutter 😳?
@KONAMAN1002 жыл бұрын
I thought someone was digging the road up, yuck.
@frankfeng27012 жыл бұрын
4k60p crop, low fps, rolling shutter, 1.03M screen...Too many compromises at this price point in 2021 given the success of R6, let alone A7iii's.
@YanFries2 жыл бұрын
Was just thinking the exact same thing. Glad I went with the R6 than wait for this a7iv
@tekguyphoto2 жыл бұрын
@@YanFries I have both the R6 and the A7IV and going to give it a test for about a month. R6 with RF 100-500 vs A7IV with the 200-600G. So far I noticed a big EVF lag on the Sony when panning for birds in flight compared to the R6. This may be enough to keep the R6 or sell the Sony and go R5. Still need to test compressed raw vs uncompressed and the FPS limits in read life. Been shooting Canon for 20 years so I'm biased.
@fwfeo2 жыл бұрын
A very informative and thorough review! Thanks Gordon!
@oasean2 жыл бұрын
A big letdown, for me, is the raw stills maximal frame rate being no better than the model III's-in effect, 8 fps for critical action-and now 10 fps raw needs a CFexpress A card [15:57]?!
@longrider95512 жыл бұрын
likely more of them will be sharp in focus, due to the improved autofocus system so the end result may be the same or better
@oasean2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, except in the many cases where the III already had them all in sharp focus.
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
You only need CF Express for 10fps RAW. SD will do 10fps JPEG.
@oasean2 жыл бұрын
Please, excuse me for technically misrepresenting your video. (Now editing my original post, I've added the word _raw_ to prevent potential confusion by other readers.)
@Seitenwerk2 жыл бұрын
@@longrider9551 maybe but the competition like the R5 can do the same at double the speed
@ofmetalphilosophy48372 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the detailed review Gordon
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, part two coming very soon!
@ZOB42 жыл бұрын
Excellent information as always Gordon. I am pleased to see your attention to detail goes all the way to having a typography/font manual.
@momchilyordanov81902 жыл бұрын
Honestly, for such a highly anticipated camera, I cannot go over two things - Severely limited silent shutter (remember that is supposed to be a major advantage of mirrorless, right?) And measly 5 (yes, five!) fps for uncompressed RAW shooting. Why? It's 2021 ffs!
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
Are you saying the e shutter is limited because of the skewing? That applies to pretty much every mirrorless camera apart from the A9, A1 and EOS R3.
@oasean2 жыл бұрын
For 2500 USD, you don't get a flagship camera.
@momchilyordanov81902 жыл бұрын
@@cameralabs I'm reading spec on DPreview. They say the sensor in 7IV is scanned for 1/15 second and the one in R6, for example, for 1/50. A big difference and that's supposed to be the direct competitor, right? If these numbers are true, the silent shutter of 7IV is only good for buildings or rock formations. And the one in R6 is actually usable for many things. I mean, my E-M1 II had a sensor that was scanned in roughly 1/50 and was perfectly usable for people having conversation or a slow going ceremony. And the Canon RP had one, that was like 1/10 and was unusable for anything, that moves even a little bit. For me, that's a huge deal in a mirrorless camera. "The benefit of shooting in complete silence". Or not.
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
@@momchilyordanov8190 I prefer to test things in real life rather than relying on written specs. In my tests both the A7 IV and R6 suffered from quite visible rolling shutter that made shooting anything moving with their electronic shutters skew. I show it in my R6 review.
@nathanmorgan36472 жыл бұрын
@@oasean Just a couple years ago, you got a flagship camera from the same company for only 2000 USD
@PK-ql5en2 жыл бұрын
I am not sure I followed this correctly: is the exposure bracketing available with the interval like with Nikon z7II and Z6II? I agree that it is a huge disappointment that they didn’t include any extended times beyond 30 sec like the new Nikons nor programmable bulb mode like Canons.
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
Are you asking if there's a delay between each shot in exposure bracketing?
@AustinRoss2 жыл бұрын
@@cameralabs I think he's asking if there's a multiple exposure mode, and the answer to that is likely yes just like there is on the A73
@HuntaDaKilla2 жыл бұрын
I think we are coming to the point where all mirrorless cameras are doing a great job. They are finally catching up with Sony. The big advantage for Canon is their lens quality. I still think it is the best in the full frame cameras. If you can afford those pricey L lenses. I am waiting to see what, if any, big differences will come with Micro 4/3 cameras before ditching it and changing to something else. I just hope they can improve low light performance, but we'll see. As always, great video Gordon. Very detailed and nothing left out. Always appreciate your channel.
@sh87362 жыл бұрын
But there are no third part lenses for Canon which is a big draw back for many, although I think I’ve dozed off during reviews of about 5 or 6 reviews of 50mm e mount lenses! Lol
@FantabMedia2 жыл бұрын
The Sony 24, 35, 50 1.2 and new 70-200 are without question best in class. They don't have an 85 1.2 or 28-70 2 yet so it depends on what your needs are but I wouldn't say their quality is worse at all.
@shahabh21082 жыл бұрын
Recent GM glasses by Sony can beat Canon's chunky lenses in performance! Update your knowledge!
@FantabMedia2 жыл бұрын
@@shahabh2108 Agreed. Both systems have great lenses but as I said above, the Sony 24, 35, 50 and new 70-200 are class-leading.
@Pisceanboi2 жыл бұрын
I would've thought the Zeiss lenses also available for the Sony would outdo anything Canon have to offer.
@thehishamahmad2 жыл бұрын
I've never own any Sony camera before. Before this I'm mainly use my camera for photography only and your review makes me one to have one. Looking forward to test this camera when its available in my country. Thanks Gordon!
@rockutron90002 жыл бұрын
Great review and camera. The A7IV is definitely one to consider for a shooter like me who wants bang for the buck and is not a pro but enjoys the hobby. Gonna check out part 2 now and see how the video features are.
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@phillgriffith2 жыл бұрын
I loathe the lockable mode dial of the A1. Why does this need to be lockable? It is far from any accidental finger knocking. This A7IV version seems a sensible compromise, with only the (now programmable) Exposure Compensation Dial with a lock. Am I alone in my dislike of the lock on the A1?
@paulechaperon2 жыл бұрын
I intend to buy a new camera and I find your reports very useful. So far the Sony a7 iii surpasses all my expectations. I watched your report on the Olympus OM-1 iii and two features that I liked on that camera are the best In Body stabilization and the Live ND (Neutral Density Filter) in camera setting. I wished that the Sony had both handy and better features. Your reports are very clear and helpful. I have also been impressed by the Fujifilm XT-4. You see I have been a Sony digital and DSLR camera person and Minolta film camera person.I dropped my 15 year old Sony a350 at the beginning of 2022 and broke it and now I am on the prowl for a new and updated camera. Photography has been a passionate hobby of mine since the B&W film days together with developing and printing my own. Thank you for all your reports.
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, hope you find what you're looking for!
@KeithCarmichaelInFL2 жыл бұрын
So glad to see them finally letting us keep that shutter closed for lens change dust protection!
@bioliv12 жыл бұрын
Yeah, for me the only reason to upgrade, but this is not enough!
@joewellham12 жыл бұрын
Good honest review, looks to be my perfect camera except I don't have £2600 spare. I need a new car for the dreaded ULEZ starting on Monday, as a lowly paid creative that needs to move equipment regularly its a killer especially combined with the CG, £27.5 a day aghh.
@sedgemorrison92172 жыл бұрын
Feel your pain, same boat, it's a tax on the poor.
@madenluvdesign2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gordon. Helpful review as I decide on A7iv or Lumix S5 for hybrid commercial work
@indranarayan87162 жыл бұрын
If a7 iv have no crop 4 k 60 then similar to r6 , r6 drawbacak only overheating ; 4k60 - 38 minute , 4k30- 40 minute , 4k 24 - 55 minute and 1080 -60p can record in overheating signal too , in my experiment. Im not professional but hobby its enough to me . if need to buy i will get r6 .
@lhenaremos97622 жыл бұрын
Great review. Just wondering if you can do on screen "pinch zoom" during image review to quickly check sharpness of your photo.
@speculumc2 жыл бұрын
Successor is ok, but certainly not a worthy successor. The price of € 2800.- is a joke. The display on the monitor has only 1 million pixels ????? Every second person wears glasses and therefore does not stick to the viewfinder. Every cell phone from € 100.00 has a better display. The Sony Alpha 7R IIIA and Sony Alpha 7R IV A have a monitor of 2.4 million pixels and cost € 1890, - and € 2480, - with the English menu navigation. The 3-year-old Sony Alpha 7 III is available for as little as € 1500 and is still used by professional photographers today. So, don't let yourself be gossiped.
@sedgemorrison92172 жыл бұрын
I wear glasses and don't use the monitor during shooting because I can't see it without close up glasses. With the viewfinder I can keep my normal glasses on with the dioptre correction and work uninterrupted. Clearly you don't have an age related issue and have to wear glasses for looking at the monitor, one day you will and realise the error of your comment.
@speculumc2 жыл бұрын
@@sedgemorrison9217 Do you work for Sony ???
@speculumc2 жыл бұрын
@@sedgemorrison9217 My criticism was the monitor with only 1 mil. Pixels for a camera that costs € 2800 You should think twice about your answer.
@sedgemorrison92172 жыл бұрын
@@speculumc You tried to make out that glasses wearers would only look at the rear screen but the opposite is the case. As a glasses wearer I rely entirely on the viewfinder, it's my only practical option. Understand now?
@speculumc2 жыл бұрын
@@sedgemorrison9217 This is your personal opinion, please refrain from forcing your opinion on me or any other person
@PrometheusDrago2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review as always Gordon. Much appreciated.
@michaelbell752 жыл бұрын
Its interesting how its now Sony playing catch up to Canon and the R6. I would still take an R6 over this. Better video, much better stabilization, better EVF and rear display and the biggest one 20fps mechanical, the a7IV can only do 10 and only in JPEG or C-RAW. Drops to 5 in any other mode which is sad. Its overpriced at $2500, should have been around $2k.
@FantabMedia2 жыл бұрын
Agreed on the better IBIS and other comments but the R6 has worse rolling shutter and 10.5 stops of usable DR (the worst on any modern FF camera) compared to 12.8 on the 7IV. Ask most cinematographers what they'd choose and I doubt it would be the R6.
@bioliv12 жыл бұрын
Agree, I'll drop this release and wait for the a7V, if my a7III breaks I'll get another one.
@FantabMedia2 жыл бұрын
Oh and the R6 doesn't do 20fps in mechanical shutter. It's 12fps.
@michaelbell752 жыл бұрын
@@FantabMedia We are talking about photography here
@bioliv12 жыл бұрын
@@FantabMedia Yeah, why didn't the a7IV at least match that? Just two more frames to match the competition. What happened to Sony?
@sailonstellarwinds2 жыл бұрын
You're a beast, so exhaustive and diligent! Super useful. Did you get a chance to compare IBIS to the mark 3? Is it improved?
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
It was similar in the same modes, but Active has the benefit for video.
@ghas41512 жыл бұрын
1M dot LCD is unforgivable. Laughable for a 2.5k camera in 2022.
@ChrisColeman19622 жыл бұрын
What a fabulous informative video, thank you so much
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@btecww2 жыл бұрын
I am a Canon shooter. I am highly invested in their eco system. That’s like being married. At the same time I can’t help but admiring my neighbors gorgeous wife. Sony really is hitting it out of the park. Their product line offers more value than Canon. Objectively Sony leading in hybrid functionality. I get good results with my Canons However there are some real compromises sort of like a marriage 😉
@MarianMoisii2 жыл бұрын
I hay very bad colour banding in long exposure .My settings is: iso 100 , aperture between f8 and f16 and shutter speed between 10 and 30 sec or Bulb .
@mikldude93762 жыл бұрын
Good video mate as always , as purely a hobby shooter with an A73( i still love my old A73) , it does seem sony did a decent job of fixing a lot of the A73 little niggles , the port doors , the menu , the touch screen ( or lack of touch on the oldie :) ) , more hand grip area for those of us with big mitts , and improved layout of the controls , and some more MP is nice. Cheers.
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
Yes, there's actually quite a lot to like over the III
@hertürlüalamayız2 жыл бұрын
We need 240fpsp at 1080p :( And no crop 4k 60fps
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
Ideally, but then at least it doesn't overheat./
@jeffrydemeyer54332 жыл бұрын
Glad to see 33mp for the mainstream. I hope canon and nikon quickly follow in bumping up the resolution. I went from a d810 to a z6 and I miss the extra resolution. I'm very interested in seeing the raws, always disappointing it takes a couple of weeks before that is available
@oasean2 жыл бұрын
The 33% rise in resolution helps, in itself, but when it basically downgrades frame rate, increases rolling shutter, crops 4K 60p to Super35mm format, and omits any 4K 120p at all, this no longer feels like the Sony redefinition of "basic" model-much less, now, "beyond basic"-and makes me wonder if they could, instead, have reused the α9's sensor, 24 MP yet _stacked_ and thus very fast, while lowering the frame rate to make the camera ISO invariant.
@skakdosmer2 жыл бұрын
My Canon Eos 90D has 32.5 mp. And yes, M Tech, it is a pretty big deal. Big enough to make a lot of people suddenly very unhappy with their Canon EF 100-400 version 1.
@youknowwho92472 жыл бұрын
I wish someone would test the e-shutter under various artificial light sources. I suspect quiet indoor situations are a bigger deal to most people than fast action.
@TrivisualsCreativeAgency2 жыл бұрын
Yup would love to know whether the silent shutter works with flash🤔
@pianofinger2 жыл бұрын
You can get iso 50 on the R6 Gordon.
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I didn't have it enabled.
@misreb12 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the detailed review. You are the only review to address the evf lag in wildlife/sport! Thanks for that. Would you say the lag is better or worse compared to a7iii?
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
It's similar in that regard...
@nyax4361 Жыл бұрын
it seems to me that, like Canon, Sony is pushing for a lens upgrade, since the original 28-70mm kit lens only serves about 27 to 30MP. for the Mark IV, the bottom line moves to 24-105mm f4 G, like the Canon EF L II or RF lenses, a premium compared to older versions.
@sedgemorrison92172 жыл бұрын
Good review and sound conclusion.
@maxwellwellmax8782 жыл бұрын
Came to see how good this new sensor is and hoping it makes its way to a Nikon body 🙂.
@chrisgibbsphoto2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review once again Gordon. Thank you!
@WesPerry2 жыл бұрын
That bizarre five second delay for the shutter to close on power off makes it nearly useless for someone working at a shoot. Who wants to wait five seconds to do a lens change? 🤦🏻♂️
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
I know, it is annoying, and common to Sony cameras too
@WesPerry2 жыл бұрын
@@cameralabs probably has something to do with waiting for the sensor to do a static discharge first, but still should be faster to be truly usefully
@julianheritage64362 жыл бұрын
Was surprised to see a7iv image quality difference was very noticeable over the A7iii, and miles better than the r6, surprised the r6 was not better at high ISO, it was far worse. Not enough improvements over the a7iii for my needs, so I'll not be upgrading any time soon.
@rogerrtewwr47232 жыл бұрын
prefer look of sony, easily
@NatsWright2 жыл бұрын
Fab video, this camera is a very compelling release by sony! Plus, your videos help me relax as I get better from covid, had a lot of anxiety lately, so need as much help as I can get!
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
Hope you feel better soon Nat.
@NatsWright2 жыл бұрын
@@cameralabs Going to be a tough ride this, but I think i'm doing it slowly. Tough day yesterday, but today is day 3 out of hospital and the longest i've been out, so a milestone! Your content really helps keep me going.
@chechezzzz2 жыл бұрын
🏝🏜🏝Blessings from Aruba Gordon!
@Speak_Out_and_Remove_All_Doubt2 жыл бұрын
Best review I've seen, and I've watched A LOT!! I was really disappointed to see Sony not use a stacked sensor though, this is a massive letdown imo. Was banding still really bad on this brand new camera when using SS? I would really love to see an A7iv Vs A9 (first one) as they are both the same price right now.
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
Yes, that's a good point about the A9 Mark I. Sadly there's no new stacked full-framers at this price yet.
@Speak_Out_and_Remove_All_Doubt2 жыл бұрын
@@cameralabs I know Sony needs to keep separation between the A9 and the A7 series but give the hefty price increase we have seen with this new model I think Sony could/should have incorporated a stacked sensor, even if they still limited it to 10fps. You would expect this model to see Sony through to well into 2024 but with an often unusable Silent Shooting mode it's just not going to cut it.
@jacobnathanielzpayag38852 жыл бұрын
It seems like Sony is using less DRAM cache compared to other models in their lineup and the competition. Those raw burst speeds are a bit concerning. Did the R6 also suffer from buffering issues and FPS drop with raw? Aside from the drop in FPS when the battery is below a certain level.
@tonyjones992 жыл бұрын
Great review Gordon. Many Thanks.
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@cooloox2 жыл бұрын
Great review, as always, Gordon.
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I feel a bit burned out now!
@ahmonon43522 жыл бұрын
Great review. I really want this camera with 70-200 GM ii
@gereon44682 жыл бұрын
Best reviews on the web. Thanks!
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Biosynchro2 жыл бұрын
From what I've seen here, the Sony camera has nicer files than the Canon. I expected a more or less even result at this point. But Sony has always made better sensors, so I'm not surprised. I'm very happy with Micro 4/3 for almost everything, and if I want a system with really high image quality, I would go straight to medium format. Why waste time with 36mm sensors if image quality is your priority?
@billpeters92662 жыл бұрын
Great review,thanks. I have an EOS RP as my intro to FF mirrorless. It’s focus tracking and frame rate are now hindering me in my wildlife photography. Mainly use EF/Sigma lenses with adapter. Familiar with Canon from use with old Elan 2E film, how I got into Canon digital. My main concern going to the R6 is cropping for wildlife pictures. Main concern going to Sony is changing everything. Quite the quandary you present here!
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
I know a few people in your position. The R6 is a great camera, but many people are inevitably put off by the res and if you're cropping a lot, it can be a concern. You could of course adapt your EF lenses to the Sony, but the AF won't be very fast..
@Paulus4492 жыл бұрын
I transferred from the rp to a Sony a7iii. Absolutely superb camera and definitely recommend the upgrade! I'm currently thinking of upgrading my a7iii to this a7iv
@tc69122 жыл бұрын
Nit picking, but the shutter sound appears louder and sharper than its competition including Nikon.
@Paul_anderson_creative2 жыл бұрын
Simply the best.. thanks for your hard work..
@johnadams30382 жыл бұрын
The A7-IV is the best. Just the 33-MP sensor is superior to the relative competition, not to mention the AF system. Body, menus, IQ.. everything is great, especially when used with GM lenses, of which I have 5 of them. For street photography It has everything I would want.
@marcuschay89622 жыл бұрын
Hi Gordon, It is a great video. Thanks. In my area the A7 IV and A7R IVA are same price. I am 30% video and 70% photography. In your opinion how is the autofocus performance between the A7 IV and A7R IVA in both video and photography?
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
The newer model is definitely snappier at AF and better at recognition. If you're shooting lots of fast moving subjects then the A7 IV will be better. But the A7r IV still isn't bad and it does have that monstrous resolution.
@marcuschay89622 жыл бұрын
@@cameralabs Thanks for your reply.
@marcuschay89622 жыл бұрын
@@cameralabs Do you have any idea what is the AE AF calculation per second for A7 IV? For A1 and A7S III there are 120x per second. A9 is 60x.
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
@@marcuschay8962 it'll be on a presentation somewhere but I tend to gloss over those specs and actually try to see how it performs in practice. In which case it's below the A1 and A9 in my tests, but still good enough for casual sports and wildllife. It kept up with our school teams and the local seagulls, but I wouldn't use it for pro sports.
@marcuschay89622 жыл бұрын
@@cameralabs Thanks. Just bought an A7R IVA for landscape and portraiture. I did watched your A7R IV review. Now considering to change my A7 III to A7 IV for video.
@benitezvisuals2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your great reviews, Gordon. I could never use a camera which overheats on stand by. That is unacceptable and no one is talking about it. Mine turned off while setting the video menus. Sony needs to address this. Never happened with my A7III and A7Riii. Take care
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
I didn't personally experience this, but in general use, I automatically switch a camera off between shots - a habit I've done for so long, my fingers can't help it! So I didn't see what it would do if left in standby, or indeed how this compared to older models as I didn't use them like that either. Next time I have an A7 IV, I'll try that out. What are your conditions where it overheats? How long has it been in standby since a full power down?
@benitezvisuals2 жыл бұрын
@@cameralabs thanks for your reply, Gordon. I was at home at around 20-25 Celsius. The Camera was on for the time it took me to start setting up my video Menu preferences (not more than 10 mins) when it turned itself off. Take care
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
@@benitezvisuals that doesn't sound good. I'm sure I've had the camera on for this long when setting it up or reviewing material. Does opening the screen out help? You might also want set the Auto temp setting to high.
@SafaxxxTH2 жыл бұрын
Super fast with tons of details. Super-duper !
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@onehourmusicbc2 жыл бұрын
First I thought it was A7R4. But then I looked at the title clusely. Whoh, A7MIV? Never thought they would release it today.
@anonym55102 жыл бұрын
Definitely a nice upgrade but I dont think its worth selling an a7iii and purchasing the a7iv. Will end up paying $1000+ more and the upgrades don't really change image quality enough to justify that. Atleast for me personally!
@olesheim2 жыл бұрын
Great reviews as usual! What does Sony say about weather sealing?
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
The usual - similar to the III, so yes in theory, but no to bad conditions!
@ZOB42 жыл бұрын
As always, great content Gordon. I have pre-ordered this body to add to my stable. I do have a question though - you mention in your conclusion that the A7iv will be the "entry level full frame" camera in Sony's line up - I would have thought the A7c would be the entry level model, since it's still a current model. Perhaps you're aware of a replacement for that camera that you can't tell us about?
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
No, you're right, I forgot about the A7c!
@fuzzytalz2 жыл бұрын
Unless you consume images one pixel-at-a-time, pixel size has no bearing on the cleanliness of high-ISO images for sensors based on the same technology/architecture. Assuming that, sensor surface area is the relevant specification affecting image noise.
@jonhermannsson92312 жыл бұрын
Great video as always Yes canon r6 might be also very good - the canon killer is lens prices Yes great lenses but very few mid range at affordable prices Seems prices range from $2299-$3000 Sony can use Viltrox Samyang Tamron Sigma And many Sony mid range also Sony better looking
@maxsr32362 жыл бұрын
Not a bad camera, but not too exciting either. Top notch review though, as usual.
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@VasiTeoca2 жыл бұрын
Does it have high res mode where it stitches 16 photos to create a photo with huge resolution like the A7R IV ?
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
Sadly not, I should have mentioned that
@VasiTeoca2 жыл бұрын
@@cameralabs It's sad to hear that. Even my Olympus Pen F has a high res mode and can make stills at 80mpx. Very nice feature for still frames and even astro fotography on a star tracker
@GregThurtle2 жыл бұрын
Hi Gordon - I shoot RAW to card 1 and JPG to card 2 - I have seen the buffer is approx 50 shots if using dual UHS-ii at 10fps with raw to both.. but unlimited with CF-A in slot 1 - any idea if you put raw to 1 jpg to 2 you'll get unlimited if you use cf-a or will it be like older Sony's where it's limited by processor and writing smaller files to the second card doesn't help?
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
Hi Greg, I'm afraid the camera has been returned, so I can't try that out for you, sorry.
@GregThurtle2 жыл бұрын
@@cameralabs no problem it's a bit of an obscure test and in reality 50 shots is enough :D
@IustinPop2 жыл бұрын
Good review. I'm still confused sometimes when you mention competitors while only referring to Canon, but that's life. I'm surprised at how the various brands are leapfrogging each other in some regards, but not all. For example, Sony having much much better AF than Nikon, while at the same time missing "simple" features that the Z6 has. Guess you can't have it all? One question: you mention EVF lag, and that it can be reduced by switching from H+ to H. What's the FPS in H mode? For comparison, the Z6 II has H+ maxing out at 14 FPS (with caveats) but terrible lag, while H is 5.5 FPS with no lag.
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
In H mode the top speed is 8fps, which is what H+ falls to under some conditions anyway. As for Nikon, I can't review them if they don't send them in to test, and I did talk about Panasonic in part 2.
@IustinPop2 жыл бұрын
@@cameralabs Ah, only 2 FPS lower? That's much, much better than Nikon. Thanks! (didn't watch part 2 yet, planning to)
@tekguyphoto2 жыл бұрын
Hello. I just got my A7IV and I can not figure out how to have the EVF information show horizontal when shooting vertical mode like my R6. I would like the screen info to rotate in the EVF but it doesn't. Would you know the setting to make this happen. It silly to see the info sideways where shooting vertical.
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
I don't think it allows it
@tekguyphoto2 жыл бұрын
@@cameralabs Hi Gordon. I have dilemma with the A7IV. Seems the bracketing and the delay timer is in the same options. How can i continuous bracket with a delay timer. My Canon has this. This for me is huge. I let the camera settle with the timer and then I take 3 bracketed continuous photos. Since I need to re align these photos I cant have movement when i release the shutter on the first photo.
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
@@tekguyphoto I agree, it's a pain. Lots of cameras have got themselves into similar catch-22's, I remember Nikon putting bracketing and the self timer on a dial, so you could only have one or the other. Olympus had them on the same menu too, but you could add a shutter delay that proved equally effective. I can't remember what's the best option with the A7 IV but you can use your phone as a remote release, which is an option.
@flemmingmorgan19292 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gordon for another superb review! Coffee coming up for you.
@flemmingmorgan19292 жыл бұрын
Can I get you a coffee with a credit card? I don’t have PayPal
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
@@flemmingmorgan1929 paypal lets you pay with a credit card if you like?
@flemmingmorgan19292 жыл бұрын
Just sent you a contribution for many coffees in appreciation of the excellent work you do. Please confirm receipt as I had to open a PayPal account and want to be sure it worked. Many thanks!
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
@@flemmingmorgan1929 thanks! Nothing come through yet, but if you paid by credit card, sometimes it takes some time for paypal to process it. If you used the 'buy me a coffee' link in the description, it should eventually get to me! Cheers!
@flemmingmorgan19292 жыл бұрын
Just did it again as it hadn’t worked. Hope you get this one through!
@helloholmes2 жыл бұрын
Why do people keep saying "Gordon, you're so fast, etc, etc"....it's not like they gave you the camera this morning when they announced it. Haha. Regardless, amazing review, as always Gordon!
@LuigiVN2 жыл бұрын
That’s what I like about Gordon actually. I went into the iJustine video and there’s like 5 minutes of travelling footage before getting into the camera lol. And what I’m looking for is the camera info. So, Gordon delivers the quickest.
@cameralabs2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I've been working flat out to bring you this.
@jumpydesign2 жыл бұрын
@@LuigiVN iJustine isn't a camera specialist and probably has a few more reviews in the tech space (being techtober) to get onto eg. DJI, Apple etc. So not worth comparing.
@LuigiVN2 жыл бұрын
@@jumpydesign i know. However I’m subscribed to both. And at some point had both videos next to each other :P
@tennissir19862 жыл бұрын
I am not a professional photographer. Could someone explain if the 1.5 Crop in some of the video modes would have a large or small effect on the video quality ? Thank you.