Sony A7IV Hands On Review // The Dream EVERYTHING Camera

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[@johnbroman7134]

This is the review I’ve been waiting for!! Thank you so much Dan!! Awesome

[@learningcameras]

Thanks John!

[@huetran4361]

Both of you did a wonderful job reviewing this. Thanks!

[@learningcameras]

Means so much!

[@TheJeffChase]

Nice look at the new camera. I think your back and forth style, having one person do video, and the other talk about photos, is a really good format. Keep up the good work!

[@sinhaabhijitp]

Brilliant review!! The picture with the sun behind is just stunning!

[@BryanElliott_]

I’m definitely picking up this camera guys I appreciate the review y’all are awesome

[@avarmadillo]

Back to Sony after years of being allergic to them---because of the color science. Getting the A74 I'm amazed at how good the image and color look, and what great strides Sony has made in every way. VERY impressed as a video only shooter.

[@robemilien]

Great review, as usual always on point, thank you both.

[@usauas9703]

Thanks guys for all the info, advice, and opinion…. While I’m a long way off from owning one yet, I appreciate the opportunity to learn from you!! 😊

[@jdjames997]

That Audi is insane, I’m a camera guy, but watching this video actually reminded me how much a crazy awesome a car like this can be. Give me an A1 and this Audi and i can live every day with a smile 😊 This review was probably one of the best one I’ve seen, no BS. The real world tests make all the difference….thank you for not just going over the camera specs…

[@learningcameras]

Appreciate that!!! We try to always actually shoot awesome things when we get new gear. There are things you learn about the camera with actual experience that you won't with studio tests. And yeah, this Audi was insane!

[@jdjames997]

@@learningcameras thank you! That’s what i wanted to hear. That alone is enough to get the 7iv vs the 7R4

[@mtmmf7632]

Great review Dan & Sally rock… was holding off watching any reviews until I saw yours.

[@sjwatson7]

That is so kind to say 😭 thank you SO much!

[@foldeat]

Must say, amazing thumbnail for this video, congrats on all your work!

[@CreativeBusinessAcademy]

Great review. Looking forward to mine arriving tomorrow! Going to make a great b-cam for my A7SIII!

[@danivar86]

I'd love to see that comparison of the new a7iv color science to the R6 mentioned at 8:32, what color profiles and software was used etc.

[@ClintGibbs]

Really appreciate the solid review on this. I have two questions for you. One, at 15:38 you started talking about not using the full sensor in 4K. It was a little unclear if you were talking about 4K60 or all 4K modes? So do you get the full sensor in 4K30? Also, I'm trying to decide between this and the R6. I do about 70% video for my cycling KZbin channel. 30% will be for photography. I'm also in Florida so overheating on the R6 is a concern for me, as I often shoot bike reviews outside in the summertime. Thanks for any input!

[@learningcameras]

Sorry for the late reply! Yes, you do get full frame in 4k30 and 4k24. For longer takes, the R6 could be an issue with overheating but for shorter clips with the camera off in between, it should be fine

[@jonhermannsson9231]

Great review as always. You are such a nice team

[@learningcameras]

Appreciate that Jon

[@sonicvboom]

My first question is directed @ Sally: As a Canon shooter, do you prefer the color science of the A74 over the R6? My second question is for Dan: Dan, you mentioned that there is a big improvement on Sony's new touch screen system. However, do you find it *comparable* to Canon's R5/ R6? Or is it still lacking/ lagging behind Canon's mirrorless?

[@learningcameras]

Sally: I wouldn't say prefer but I absolutely can make my favorite images with either camera! Dan: The Sony touch screen still lags behind the R6 both in quality and in touch lag. But the lag is low enough that I wouldn't call it an "issue" anymore but I'd still give the edge to the R6 with screen tech

[@paulfairchild8942]

Very informative review as always, thanks

[@navaneethchandrashekar7020]

The bgm , the talks omg perfect ❤️

[@ZamoraChristian]

One of the best review I have seen, and I honestly have seen more than 15 videos. LOVE IT & SUB to you today.

[@learningcameras]

Really appreciate that!!!

[@vipergts831]

I hope you drop a comparisons video against the A7R4 and the A9II. Would be extremely helpful.

[@just_inhawaii]

Late to the comment party on this one, but I have to say, I just picked up an a7iv and I love the crop. As a solo event shooter, that extra reach in 4k60 and the apsc crop mode, in general, comes in clutch. Much more versatile than the a7siii. 👍🏽

[@ALWH1314]

Love the sensor shutter, auto human/animal eye focus and breathing compensation; just preordered one. The only thing I wish to keep is the flip screen, will keep my A7R4 just for that.

[@Oakcitymedia]

So which is preferred the A7R4 or the A74? They similar in cost. I’m debating between the two.

[@justanotherasian4395]

@@Oakcitymedia the R4 is a high resolution stills only camera, while the A74 is a good hybrid camera

[@prosperity1715]

Every new camera is amazing… my anxiety as a photographer is so high right now.

[@BogdanRunceanu]

Thanks for the review, it's really well done, informative, and eye candy at the same time. Kudos! I'm waiting for pre-sale to order mine, but in the meanwhile, there is one feature that I'm really interested in and it hasn't been addressed much in any of the videos I saw online, mainly, the gyro data (VFX geek here). Would you happen to be able to share a video sample along with the gyro data? I'm really curious how can I use this in my future pipelines ;D Many thanks!

[@HiFocusedCinematography]

How’s the 4k / 60p s35 sharpness compared to the a7siii 4k/60p? I assume the A74 is sharper at 4k/24p because of oversampling?

[@LeeAxonisDigifin]

Hi Dan. Just bought this to add to the A7s3. Thanks to you I'm more informed. Where is the video on the new menu and set up please? Just in case I'm missing things from this camera. Thanks Lee.

[@WHITELIONNYC]

You two are great together! 💪🏿😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊👍🏻

[@PiaJustynn]

Awesome review both in videographer and photographers point of view. Thank you.

[@learningcameras]

Thanks so much Pia!

[@bnazzaro21]

How’s the low light for stills compared to other Sony’s?

[@christianavalos7096]

How would it work for astrophotography given the high megapixels? Or is this a non issue? Everyone so far has said it works great in “low light” but thats not astro low light.

[@ForrestWest]

Great video guys and the car B roll video looks so well done and professional! I'm using topaz denoise with my images from the R6 and I can shoot wildlife and nature images up to 25,600 ISO and they clean up really well. I'm sure it's a different situation correcting for video. Best of luck to you guys!

[@paulbeckmann]

Thanks for an awesome review!

[@learningcameras]

Appreciate you watching!!!

[@chrishall9623]

My biggest issues with all my Sony camera so far (a7ii, a7iii, & a7Riii) is the shutter release button. Mine have worn out to the point of having to be serviced. How's the shutter button feel compared to the previous models?

[@Princeton_James]

That's a good point. I like my G9 where I barely have to touch it and it shoots.

[@BenTroxell]

Dan, those shots of the R8 were straight badass! You guys are stupid talented.

[@learningcameras]

Means so much Ben!!!

[@jonhumphrey8783]

I wonder how the 1080 60p in full frame looks like. The a7SIII looks just as clean as the 4k.

[@learningcameras]

Stay tuned...doing a video centered breakdown next so I'll have the ability for those details

[@markshirley01]

@@learningcameras really interested in that Dan - my D750 does really nice 1080 maybe because there is no 4K. Im happy with good quality HD with sharp lenses for social media.

[@markshirley01]

Really thats very helpful - have you used 10 bit 1080 on the A7S3.

[@kp66udv]

Same here. I really want to see how its 1080p performs, especially 60 and 120 fps.

[@ahmadseleem1151]

Is the sony AIV 1080 10 bit or 8

[@jeremias.lindner]

Great vid! I just need to know 2 things before doing my move: Does this camera has AA filter like the entire a7 series? And is the shutter life spected like the a7 series too? (200k) or 500k like the others? Thank you!

[@Benjamin_Jehne]

Would be nice, if there is some kind of AA filter, as all the R-series camera have major problems with heavy moiré. I shoot a lot of product stuff, and it is crazy how much additional work in post is nessacceary to get high quality images without moiré. It's not just a slider... .

[@jeremias.lindner]

@@Benjamin_Jehne answering my first question, the answer is yes, this new a7iv has AA filter, but I don’t how much is the shutter life

[@SretloW]

Hi Dan, I am doubting between the Canon R6 and Sony a7IV. I am a hybride shooter (60% photo/40% video). For me is it important to get good video footage handheld without a gimbal.(I had the Ronin S, but for my style of work it's not convenient). What can you advice?

[@learningcameras]

Hey! I mean both cameras are solid and I don't think there is a wrong way to go and tend to prefer the A7IV in most situations but, the Canon R6 bests the A7IV with IBIS and also with the amount of lenses with built in stabilization for extra power so for handheld stable footage, the R6 with a stabilized lens would give you better results

[@jamesseward9263]

Awesome review! 💕 Much appreciate! I’m a Canon user and was just wondering if you’ve tried this with a Sigma MC-11 and Sigma and Canon lenses for photography? How would they perform? Thanks 😊

[@learningcameras]

Hey! So I have and for basic point to point autofocus, it's usable but if you want continuous autofocus or focus during video, definitely go native lenses

[@photographerjonathan]

I really like when you switch the dial to video. The menu becomes a video menu. And finally a fully functional touch screen. And when you switch back to stills it becomes a stills menu. Including the quick menu. Isn't the 4k 30 full frame and really nice quality ? The A74 seems really nice but I am still sticking with my A7r lll for now. ( the shutter is the most fragile part of the camera. And having the shutter exposed while changing lenses is a little scary. One tiny grain of sand on the shutter could destroy it when it opens back up. So i would still be super careful changing lenses ) i am not sure if having a shutter exposed when changing lenses is better than having the sensor exposed.

[@learningcameras]

Again, having the shutter exposed is an OPTION in the menu. You can set it either way so you can turn this feature off if you want. I personally would rather not having my photos/video ruined by dust so I turn it on if I know I'll be changing lenses on location

[@mem5922]

@@learningcameras Is it true it takes 4 sec to close after power-off?? If true, doesn't that hamper quick lens changes to get a shot?

[@learningcameras]

@@mem5922 4 seconds sounds about right but usually it takes me way longer to get the lens out of my bag or even take the rear cap off so 4 seconds wouldn't bother me. Shut camera off, get lens, take back cap off, remove lens, attach new lens

[@tiburon9558]

Thank you for the awesome review

[@Aesahaetr]

Can the Sony A9 battery grip fit on the Sony A7 IV? That will reduce overheating significantly.

[@ruff1draft]

This Sony A74 with the Tamron 35-150mm F2-F2.8 is an impressive combination especially in both Super 35mm mode and Full frame mode

[@ttight11]

Great video! A couple of basic info misses: Does it use the same battery as the others? What grip? Rolling shutter? Would you quantify the "loud shutter"? Relative to A7III? A9II? Thanks!

[@learningcameras]

Same battery but I'm not sure if it's the same battery grip. Rolling shutter is not better...usually more resolution doesn't help unless it's a faster sensor and this is not. The shutter sound is basically the same as the A1 and A7III but those are MUCH louder than Canon's newer cameras like the R6 and R5. I don't even need silent shutter on those cameras

[@ttight11]

@@learningcameras Thanks! I took a pass on the R5 after renting it a few times. It is quiet, but lacking in other areas for me.

[@budialfa]

Thanks for yoru review very nice video and camera

[@sirgigolo]

What about the 4K crop and the rolling shutter. I think that this camera will be a best seller for sure, but it’s far from perfect.

[@johnhearn5644]

A7R iv or the new A7 iv? That is the question. I have the budget, but which is the best camera for the money?

[@macmovieman1]

I will order this as soon as it becomes available.

[@IrineAntony]

Great video Watson..

[@learningcameras]

Thanks so much!

[@syafster]

Hi. Do you shoot in JPG? I tried playing with the arw, but cant seems to get it open in lightroom?

[@learningcameras]

So for now, only Capture One can open RAW files so that's what I used. Lightroom support should be coming soon...usually takes 2-4 weeks after the launch

[@eviltango]

Serious Triss Merigold vibes... Love it!

[@SilatShooter]

I'm debating on this vs the A7RIV, pricing is pretty close on the two. I'm more of stills shooter but definitely want to start doing more video.

[@carlosmolina8859]

I had the same issue, but the balance tipped towards the a7 IV because of the complete rotating screen

[@ExploreTravelTV]

great reviews, I am still on the Panasonic GH5 and want to upgrade to a Sony Full frame. Eyeballing the A7s3 but now this one came out. I do mostly video, KZbin, product reviews, some event videos, done weddings and music venues etc but also do photos, landscape, product photos etc. but still probable 80-90% video stuff. I really don't shoot much 4k 60 or 120 but would be nice incase I do. I would have to buy all new lenses of course too (cost more than the bodies) so the a74 being a $1k less could get my that extra lens. Ugh. still not sure which one to get.

[@learningcameras]

Thanks! I mean there are actually quite a few areas where the A7IV is actually better. The only big weaknesses of the A7IV are rolling shutter in full frame, no 4k120, and 4k60 is cropped. Otherwise there are a a few areas it beats the A7SIII. The only reason I use the A7SIII is that I often need 4k60 and 120fps but I just bought the A7IV as a good photo camera that can also shoot video

[@thomastuorto9929]

Pick it up as my first Sony camera? Maybe. Undecided yet. Mostly a photography shooter with wildlife interest & an interest in beginning video but, budget is limited. On the fence yet. Maybe the R5. I shoot with a Nikon D810 now. Love the quality of the photos but looking for a little more in the focus system & a lot more in the video department.

[@Alexrocks1253]

Vs. The Panasonic s5? I was thinking of getting this to go alongside my S5 for shots where I don’t need good stabilization but autofocus is almost needed (Would be downgrading from A7RIV)

[@learningcameras]

Absolutely, with the new 10bit 422 profiles, the A7IV now works well alongside the S5

[@danielgulliver647]

just getting into photography and videography picked this up for my first camera

[@learningcameras]

Awesome! Hope you enjoy

[@eazymac71]

Thanks for the overview! Which camera did you use for the segment from roughly 1:58-2:20? Was that the A1 or S3? That footage looks SO good.

[@learningcameras]

Thanks! That was the SIII shooting B-roll

[@eazymac71]

@@learningcameras It looked incredible! You think you could do an S3 vs a74 4k 60 comparison? I'm still conflicted though I still want to pull the trigger on the 4.

[@learningcameras]

@@eazymac71 Coming later this week!

[@MurrayMcMillan73]

Fantastic review. Waiting on my A7iv x 2 coming. Switching from Fujifilm after 5 years

[@learningcameras]

Awesome! Really appreciate that

[@Jaimesebe]

Awesome video guys, this review is Dope one of the best out there for the A7IV. I'm gonna upgrade into this one regardless the 4K60 crop mode. I have been shooting for almost 4 years with my lil' guy the A6300. I'm a hybrid shooter and used to the the crop mode, obviously. Is still a bummer the camera packed so much, improvements that Sony didn't give us the 4K60 full frame. I still believe that will be a very good seller so, just gonna get used to and enjoy what we got in our hands to keep creating content for ourselves and clients alike.Salutes!!

[@learningcameras]

Thanks so much!!! Agreed

[@Jaimesebe]

@@learningcameras you’re welcome!!Looking forward for more review videos like this one in the near future!!Glad to be part of your community!!Salutes 🙌🏾🙏🏾☺️👊🏾

[@pematamang9268]

Don't worry Sony will give full frame in coming firmware updates and this is just pre production and Sony know that they 99% Negative feedback from customers except Sony sponsors KZbinrs.

[@reykfoto]

I shoot weddings and I crop a lot some times I guess those 33mp are very welcome.

[@frankm0023]

Hi anything on the silent shooting? any improvement? Still has banding? thanks

[@learningcameras]

Yep, not a stacked cmos sensor so still slower readouts which could have issues with electronic silent shutter

[@anorveaa]

Hi guys very fun video thank you. Some youtubers have compared and said that they do (not) see any more detail/sharpness compared to the 24MP A7III, which they found that interesting. What can you say about that? And the color science in this camera has improved compared to what, the A7III or something else? And this camera is always loud and doesn't have a silent mode to change to??? Thanks.

[@learningcameras]

Interesting. I don't have the A7III anymore (sold it a few months ago) so I'll have to see if I can test but it had more detail than the 20MP Canon R6. I do have a 24MP Nikon Z6II so I'll test that too. The color science has improved from the A7III...I believe it is the same as the Sony A1. The camera does have a silent mode but ever camera (other than the Sony A9, A1, and Canon R3) use standard sensors so the readout speeds are slow thus shooting electronic/silent shutter can show rolling shutter with moving subjects or banding in artificial lighting so not always usable

[@anorveaa]

@@learningcameras Thank you so much for your input.

[@AOJOPhotography]

I have the a7s3 and two a6400 for video and two a7r3 for photography. Would you upgrade the a7r3 to this camera?

[@learningcameras]

First of all...jealous! Hahaha. 2nd, I'd absolutely think of replacing the a6400 first with the A7IV as that will be a massive upgrade with 10bit 4k 422 or 420, new picture profiles, and big AF/hardware improvements. While the A7IV is technically better in most ways than the A7R3 for photos, it's not an image quality upgrade and the features are not night/day different so I'd only replace the A7R3 with the A7IV if you could also then use the camera as a 3rd video camera if it wasn't being used for photo

[@AOJOPhotography]

​@@learningcameras while i love the a7r3 and 42mp I only got the a6400 for the video tracking. a7IV looks like the focus and tracking is way better than the r3? yes i would be using it for 2nd video camera at weddings if we aren't doing photo.

[@jennifermedia6288]

hi Dan , so do you have a help video on this camera?

[@learningcameras]

Hey! Working on a few...just finished writing out one of them but in the meantime, this will help a little: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZa9gq2Pf7yVrKc

[@lamourvideography5494]

Nice vid Dan and Sally! - From a video perspective I definitely felt like the 4K 60fps got gypped, however image quality looked amazing.

[@simonomis5246]

Great review Dan. I'm also a bit disappointed about the 4k 60p not being full frame.. do you think that it could be possible to add a new option of 4K 60p full frame with line skipping via future firmware update?

[@learningcameras]

I'm with you and I certainly hope they can add it in. It's literally the only thing that made this camera not perfect for me

[@simonomis5246]

@@learningcameras Same here.. and looking at the Canon R6 photo and video capabilities I find it's a really strange decision from Sony.. I think they decided to protect the SIII sales instead of going 24MP-4k 60p in ff and killing the competition.. so now I think I will simply wait a bit more, collect the money and buy a second A1 body.

[@donnellboone7831]

Great review Dan and Sally!! l think that the a74 would be great for weddings,which is what l desire to get into.l only wish that the 4k60 wasn't cropped.l guess you can't have everything.

[@DanasAnis]

@@simonomis5246 they actually did not protect A7SIII in any way, they just pushed away potential buyers from their ecosystem, for example 20 people already are leaning towards getting Canon Eos R6, because A7SIII 12 megapixels are too low, but 20 at Eos R6 is good enough and 4k ff 60fps with almost unnoticeable crop, so not only they ruined few sales for A7IV, but probably few hundred people will invest in competing ecosystems. New to Sony gear, who buy A7IV, for them next logical step would be to upgrade to A7SIII if they need more on video side, or to A7R, A9 if they need more on photography or A1 for ultimate solution once they grow to it. But why bother, let these potential buyers look elsewhere. I am a small fish, can't afford A7SIII nor A1, but I am invested in Sony system, this move by Sony makes me doubt. The only reason I would upgrade to A7IV is just because changing systems is expensive deal to me. And as a hybridshooter, I am not impressed with A7IV. A7III for it's time was a wow and what made me go with Sony, A7IV on the other hand is rather disappointing only because of 4k 60fps crop. While I greet the increase of megapixels, 24 in A7III is plenty enough, so if they went 24 megapixels but 4k 60 fps no crop, that would have been a lot more exciting. A7IV is great camera though, however, that one thing makes me doubt, I am in a really big need for a second camera and was expecting A7IV to be it, even was looking into getting a loan, but A7IV doesn't seem worth this commitment. And I don't know what to do, I need a camera that can do 4k 60fps no or very small crop, I also need it for photography, A7SIII while perfect for video, doesn't fit my photography needs, Canon Eos R6 makes more sense in this case, but I already invested in FE mount lenses and switching systems is a pain. So did marketing guys save sales of A7SIII or did cause some potrntial damage to the sales of Sony Alpha ecosystem in general. I know A7IV will sell as hot cakes anyway, but doesn't seem it will be to the extent they could. Unless they do a firmware update to bring 4k 60fps no crop in some way.

[@marioplumber3564]

The a9II allows for the shutter to close during the power off as well... Just saying. BTW... What the heck is the deal with HEIF

[@samsargdong1135]

Hi,thanks for the interesting review! How many Mp does the camera have when shooting in crop mode?

[@learningcameras]

Thanks! Looks like it's about 15mp

[@samsargdong1135]

@@learningcameras Ok.Thanks!

[@trungnguyenofficial9999]

Im looking to get a hybrid camera, but atm i am so torn between the sony a7iv or the canon r6, its really the drawback between the 20mp vs 33mp, and full frame 4k60 or cropped😭, any advice for a beginner getting into this space? I am looking for a hybrid :)

[@learningcameras]

Hey! So definitely tough choice and both are great cameras. I will say because the R6 has a 30 minute record limit on video, a pretty low resolution sensor, and more expensive lens options, I'd lean towards the A7IV

[@trungnguyenofficial9999]

@@learningcameras appreciate the reply!

[@ashmi3343]

Nice video, 👍👍❤️ If you don't mind, do a comparison video Sony A74 VS Canon R6. Thank you

[@charmerci]

What's with the loud shutter complaint? It has a silent shutter mode, right? Or did they eliminate it?

[@learningcameras]

It has it but this is an electronic shutter which is not something you should be using often on the A7IV. You should only use this in natural light with non moving or really slow moving subjects or you will get banding, distortion, or rolling shutter

[@Benjamin_Jehne]

I now shoot with A7RIII bodies but I think, this camera is worth a "downgrade" from the R series. I loved the 36mpix of my A7RI, for me personally this was the mpix sweetspot for my work and so I was very happy as they announced the 33mpix A7IV. I don't use 4K 60, just 4K 24 and so this is less of a problem for my work. This camera sounds so underwhelming at first, but when you take a closer look it is a real banger. This camera has such a wide range it's impressive.

[@elysiumcore]

Might be my first Sony Body as a Nikon User - mostly photo , would be nice to get into video - for all you get $2500 is cheap 👀

[@WHITELIONNYC]

I do mostly photography (a7iii) so the bump in resolution is what I need. I was thinking of buying an a7riii for pictures.📷📷📷📷📷🔦

[@louishochman9004]

Both clips on the breathing compensation say "Compensation Off." I take it the second one is the compensation on?

[@learningcameras]

Sorry! Yes, 2nd one is on

[@BrasilOO7]

Thanks a lot for this exhaustive review. Do you think that the autofocus performance is superior to that of the A 7 R IV? Many thanks and best regards.

[@learningcameras]

Thanks! It is a slight improvement to the RIV but the RIV was already amazing

[@Givebacknation]

When will this camera release to the general public?

[@mojelato]

Hi Dan , can the White balance be changed during recording video ?

[@learningcameras]

Yep!

[@micahbowen184]

Also wondering like some others if the color science has improved on this vs the a7iii which I currently own. My issue is in lighroom when editing the a7iii images, it's so damn hard to make the colors look right, as with my canon 5diii, which is a breeze to edit the cr2 files. It's been so hard for me to commit 100% to Sony because of this major issue that nobody is addressing!

[@learningcameras]

So yes, color science has been tweaked a bit more since the A7III so you will notice the difference. Colors on the A7IV are good but obviously there is still some personal preference involved

[@jonathanbrooke4749]

Okay- question…. The DAY before The release announcement I sprung for an A7C. Dang. I have 23 more days to return it and wait for this one…. Me thinks I’ll hate myself if I don’t do it. What do you think and when is the delivery date looking like? 🤔

[@learningcameras]

Supposed to be the end of this year but not sure if there will be shortage issues

[@OkwyUgonweze]

By your analysis the canon R6 seems to be a better camera still. Meanwhile jumping from 24 - 33 mp is not a big deal, saying it's astronomical is quite overboard. Pls what is the sync speed? I will also love to know if the raws sizes can be changed like in nikon and Canon.

[@learningcameras]

Almost the opposite actually. The A7IV is better than the R6 in just about every area for the same price. The only exception is that the R6 is lower resolution which means faster especially when shooting with slower SD cards. Now video the R6 has full frame 4K60 which is a big advantage

[@shaolin95]

@@learningcameras wow every other area???? Let's check on that.. 10fps vs 12fps or even 20fps on silent mode. Not even close specially on how much the sony slows down in uncompressed Better lcd on the R6 Less rolling shutter on the R6 easily Better animal eye AF with the R6 Much bigger buffer in the R6. 4k60p full frame vs the crop with the Sony And if the A1 is an indication, the R6 has more accurate eye AF. The Canon can focus at lower light levels as well. Less rolling shutter for photos too. So tell me again how is the sony superior as your boldly claim???

[@tc6912]

@@shaolin95 it makes his wife happy!

[@HGQjazz]

Thanks for the comprehensive content! However, I do have one point of contention. 16:03 Depth of field, bokeh, etc. is NOT affected at all by sensor size or by how much of the sensor is being used (crop mode). It is strictly based on lens and composition. The reason a full frame cameras yield more bokeh is because you're switching out to a 50% longer (mm) lens for the same composition. It is the longer lens that brings the bokeh, not the sensor size. Said another way, you can put a 50mm on an A7iv and the bokeh is exactly the SAME in full frame mode and in crop mode as long as the spacing is maintained. If you re-frame everything, backing up the camera or subject to regain proper framing, THAT is what is changing your bokeh, not crop mode. Anyway, thanks for the great content otherwise!

[@learningcameras]

So sure I guess, if you are making all those other assumptions and that you are choosing a focal length randomly. But assuming you are choosing a focal length based on distance to subject and framing (usually how I pick a focal length), then changing the sensor size changes depth of field. Put another way, if I'm shooting with a 50mm because I want that particular focal length and then decide to switch to 4K60, I'll be forced to switch focal lengths in order to maintain the same perspective thus changing my depth of field. That's a more likely scenario assuming I'm not shooting the entire time in the apsc mode.

[@bobmusikk]

so it miss the 4k 60p full frame with cropping, but what about the focus lens compensation? same result right? probably a bit less but still crop

[@learningcameras]

The focus lens compensation is a very small crop...pretty much insignificant because all its doing is adjusting for the change in focal length that already exists in the lens

[@bobmusikk]

@@learningcameras I just tried (bought and returned) the Sony FX30, I didnt know that no flash photo was possible. Now, trying to decide between Sony A74 and Canon R6mk2

[@learningcameras]

​@@bobmusikk Interesting...didn't know that. I mean the biggest weakness to me on the A74 was that it was APSC only in 4k60 but if you were good with the FX30 being APSC, no bit loss there

[@thegoldenmaestro]

a question is there a chance we can get that full sensor 4K60 with a firmwear update or that's a hardweare thing ?? thanks

[@dobripopov8466]

No way. The sensor readout speed is too slow.

[@learningcameras]

Definitely possible...Nikon added 4k60 via firmware with the Z6II. However, it will most likely be pixel binned and not oversampled so not quite as much detail as we would have with 4k24 which is 7k oversampled.

[@Sacrypheyes]

just like Dan, one of the main gripes i have with the a7iv is the 4k60 cropped, not that i use it a lot, but when i do, it would just be so annoying to deal with the huge change in aspect ratio. also the other downside of higher resolution is that it cannot shoot any more than 10fps, when the R6 can go up to 20; had they kept a 24mp sensor, sony could probably have bumped it to at least 15fps if not match the 20fps of the canon.

[@learningcameras]

So I will add that the R6 ONLY shoots 20fps in electronic shutter and you absolutely should not use electronic shutter for fast moving subjects on either one of these cameras due to the slow sensor scan speeds. The R6 only shoots 12fps and even slower with full AF in uncompressed RAW with real time viewfinder though it is still slightly faster than the A7IV

[@sydneyraab]

Would you guys think this would be good for beauty reviews and sit down videos? I am starting working in front of the camera for TV and I need high end looking content on KZbin to build a career besides that. Not so sure in which camera and lens I should invest in. I already have perfect lighting. Just the camera is making me some trouble…

[@learningcameras]

Absolutely. This camera and the Canon R6 are great for that type of work with the Sony having more lens options

[@TimAyro]

What's the consensus on this vs A7RIV? I have the RIV and I'm not seeing much of a reason to switch. I don't do video.

[@charliipresley]

I’m wondering that too. Given this comes in at $2500, and I don’t do video, I’m wondering if going with a used a7riv for $2600 is a better option

[@brandonmurray3629]

With one change this could be the ultimate hybrid camera. Let's hope enough people complain and Sony gives us some form of full frame 4k 60p! The A1 does 4K 120p with the same image processor and a 50MP sensor so it's definitely possible.

[@EduarFilms]

I don't think this will happen, probably it would overheat or something, I think they just looking to save money on it and now I feel like back when I was pissed at Canon when they were pulling this kind of crap and moved to Sony...

[@Pfagnan]

One other negative they didn’t mention is the rolling shutter!! 😥

[@brandonmurray3629]

@@EduarFilms Definitely feels like a Canon move! With the A1 processor this should be possible. I would take overheating seeing as how most people aren't doing long takes with slow motion.

[@LucasBlaney]

Yeah it is why I won't get this camera.

[@wswann34]

@@brandonmurray3629 It will not be possible, especially from a marketing standpoint. Getting a 4k image from a 7k 24mb sensor requires alot of processing power and surly will overheat but if it was possible then it will render the a7siii useless because now the only reason to get an siii is because of 4k 120

[@ryanisaiah3308]

It has a loud shutter... Does it have silent shooting like the a73?

[@pematamang9268]

It does have but almost useless because banding issues for fast pacing, not great Under artificial lights indoors.

[@juniordemelvevo7646]

Wich lense was use for the video????at the Beginning?

[@learningcameras]

Most was shot on the 50mm F1.2 with a few on the 35mm F1.4GM

[@zachwilkins]

You said the 33 mp sensor takes away some of the shallow depth of field... can you explain why that is and how much of a difference it is to other full frame cameras?

[@learningcameras]

This is just for video and the fact that you need to use an APSC crop mode to shoot 4k60. The sensor itself has nothing to do with it. For stills, having 33MP means you can actually use an APSC mode if you wanted to with 14MP resulting images. So for photography it's an optional feature but for video at 4k60, there is a mandatory APSC crop that takes away from shallow depth of field

[@zachwilkins]

@@learningcameras Oh gotcha. Thanks for the response!

[@scotthenry3904]

How about the buffer when shooting only Raw? Does it clear fast for switching quickly from photo to video for hybrid shooting?

[@learningcameras]

It still gets slow pretty quickly...I think I got about 35 images tops on fast UHSII SD cards. If you use CFexpress though you can shoot like 800 images before filling the buffer

[@pematamang9268]

@@learningcameras using CFexpress A car 800 or until fill cards means only jpeg and lossy compressed Raw???

[@learningcameras]

@@pematamang9268 You can shoot 400+ images straight in compressed RAW with a CFexpress A card

[@pematamang9268]

@@learningcameras What about Uncompressed and Lossless compressed. If Sony doesn't listen and this times this camera doesn't make profit like Sony a7iii did. 4k60p full frame less rolling shutter in 4k24p, 15fps and lcd Resolution is basic for decent 2022. Sony a7iii does have 0.94millions Lcd Resolution and this camera had 1.03 millions dot, I absolutely this is not improvement. We don't ask same or cloning A1 and we don't wisg 4k120p full frame in this price. For example Ferrari and Toyota is price difference but still we reach same destination without issues. Sony Cripple hammer. Only KZbinrs are not complaints because KZbinrs shut by Sony.

[@scotthenry3904]

@@learningcameras Is that write to both slots or just the CFexpress?

[@molitor76]

Sold to me - cannot wait - and thanks for the thorough review! BTW, what is that intro song?

[@learningcameras]

Awesome!!!! Thanks. This is the music service: geni.us/mymusic and the song is called Bridges

[@molitor76]

@@learningcameras Thanks!

[@karmajamtsho2861]

Whats is the average ARW file size?

[@PhantasiaCollectibles]

I'm looking towards investing in my first hybrid camera, main use is vlogging with landscape and portrait photography. Still unsure if this is still the camera to get?

[@learningcameras]

Then the Canon R6 and Sony A7IV would be the top 2 choices for that. Both work extremely well with the R6 being the simpler option with lower resolution/smaller files and the A7IV having way more options, more lenses, with a larger resolution sensor but larger files so more space required. Both are the same price so personally I'd go A7IV but if it's a first camera and you don't want to bite off too much, maybe the R6

[@PhantasiaCollectibles]

@@learningcameras thanks for the advice! I either might get the a7 iv and get started before i go crazy and buy two different focussed cameras 🤪🤪🤪

[@PhantasiaCollectibles]

Your product reviews really helped a tonne!!!

[@GoProActions]

Have a look at the Fuji Xt4. Costs nearly half of the A7 or R6. Amazing Sensor, beautiful colours, great lowlight, flip screen, 4k60, 10 bit and great AF. Fuji just opened the X mount to 3rd partie lenses so there is a lot to come. You`ll have a awesome camera with a lens for the same price.

[@pematamang9268]

I think sony will give from firmware updates for 4k60p full frame.

[@DanasAnis]

They better do that. Even if it was 8bit only. Better than no 4k ff 60fps

[@pematamang9268]

@@DanasAnis Yes it is true but we are not in 2008. We can't shoot video because Rolling shutter not allow to make great video without rolling shutter control and indoor Lights. It is great film dead people, sleepy subject, non moveable subject. Any moving subject is pointless for 4k24, 30p oversampled from 7k due to rolling shutter.

[@EdwardWischer]

I agree, I think they’re going to in like 6-12 months so people tend to go towards the Siii if they REALLY want video quality

[@juzzypham7421]

Hi Dan and Sally! I love KZbin video. I've been watching this video more than 15 time since the 22rd/10. I'm mostly want to upgrading my current A7III to A7IV. There is one thing that no one talking about the HDMI functionality of it. Do you know if the A7IV got ' Clean HDMI ' ?. Must appreciate if you can respond! Thanks Dan and Sally. Beautiful couple!!

[@learningcameras]

Thanks so much!!! We really appreciate that. You absolutely get "clean HDMI" from the camera and when you are using HDMI with it, it does't disable any autofocus features like the A7III did. I actually have a video coming out this weekend on the A7IV for video and I go more indepth with things like HDMI for monitors and recorders!

[@juzzypham7421]

Dan/Sally! Thank you for respond, very helpful. You and Sally so beautiful couple. I love video(s). The colour of videos are beautiful! Everytime I watch your Video, I run off and show my wife your Video quality/colour. We love you guys

[@Oakcitymedia]

I’m in the process of purchasing camera body. I am Stuck from understanding the RIV to the IV. I purchased the RIV at $2,900 total but there is the IV a bit cheaper. I did look at the Canon R6

[@learningcameras]

If you shoot video at all, go with the A7IV but if you are exclusively a photo shooter, technically the R4 is still a bit better

[@RatherBDiving1]

Why Sony? If it wasn’t for the cropped 4k 60 I would have preordered it already to pair with my A7R4. I also wished they just put two of the CF express cards and addressed the rolling shutter. This kinda of sucks for us hybrid shooters.

[@kifley19]

They crippled it on purpose. Dirty move by Sony. Just make the camera that people want.

[@Nostaljikone]

That 5-6 fps burst for uncompressed raw is pretty pathetic too.

[@harryvuemedia5106]

@@kifley19 So you want Sony to add another $500 U.S. dollars to the already $2,500 price tag? You all are basically wanting Sony too sell their A1 at $2,500 which they are not going to do

[@RluuPhotography]

How would you compare the shutter sound to the A73?

[@learningcameras]

Very similar...probably the same shutter but Sony is definitely louder than Canon & Nikon. The Canon is so quiet I never even need silent shutter...it's not distracting at all

[@wildwoodweddingfilms]

I was so excited for this camera and was going to order one because I sold my last photo camera (and still occasionally get photo jobs). Then yesterday I saw the Ronin 4D and I couldn’t be less interested in the IV now. Trying to figure out what gear to sell to buy the 4D. Things I have wanted that camera has: internal options for everything from small file sizes all the way to RAW. Then they let you record on an SSD! Why are we still using SD cards or these crazy expensive CFExpress. Dear Sony, switch to NVME storage and give us 1 and 2tb options! It’s faster, bigger, and cheaper.

[@learningcameras]

Haha. The only thing that I'm not sold on the 4D yet is lenses. I need to see more about the options for using other lenses on it...mainly zooms and wide aperture primes since the DJI offerings don't include those

[@wildwoodweddingfilms]

@@learningcameras Yea, so stop what you’re doing and give us more Ronin 4D videos! I’ve been wavering about hitting the preorder button for 20 hours now. I’m almost there! 💴

[@mem5922]

Try the 4D handheld... oh wait, ya can't it's a CAMBAL :)

[@wildwoodweddingfilms]

@@mem5922 I’m pretty much all gimbal all the time.