Sony A7iv Low Light Review vs A7C / A7iii: Quality, Noise, Focus & Cinematic shots

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DB Vares

DB Vares

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@dbvares8745
@dbvares8745 2 жыл бұрын
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@tsizzle
@tsizzle 2 жыл бұрын
“Concluding with comprehensively conceived, and cunningly concocted camera comparison…”. I hope more viewers can appreciate the brilliance and humor of your wordsmithing, iambic pentameter, and onomatopoeias just as much as the technical camera content. 😉 👍 Happy holidays 🎄
@dbvares8745
@dbvares8745 2 жыл бұрын
T Sizzle, such a nice comment and massively appreciated:) Way more work goes in to these than is probably efficient so if a few people enjoy those touches it means a lot 💪👍 Happy holidays and awesome new year to you too 👏
@miribabayev7381
@miribabayev7381 2 жыл бұрын
When you look for low light video (1) and photo (2) noise test, low light autofocus performance (3) and comparison of these with A7III (4) and you find answers to all your 4 questions in 1 video... That's more satisfying than any ASMR video available in KZbin. Well done mate, highly appreciated!
@dbvares8745
@dbvares8745 2 жыл бұрын
And I highly appreciate the kind words Miri :) Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great day!
@mirrorlessmemory
@mirrorlessmemory 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to make this video! I think the 10 bit and active steadyshot was enough for me to order the a7iv, albeit the bigger size. Cool to see the a7c hold it’s weight though!
@dbvares8745
@dbvares8745 2 жыл бұрын
Very similar thinking to me Jose, I definitely notice the extra weight but the video features, especially active steadyshot sold the a7iv. And the ergonomics are nicer as a benefit to the weight at least! Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great day 👍
@omarafunitv
@omarafunitv 2 жыл бұрын
I just watched 4 back-to-back reviews of yours and I can’t get enough! My new favorite reviewer. 👏🏼 I love your pop culture references and dry sense of humor. Keep it up!
@jimmackayvlog
@jimmackayvlog Жыл бұрын
I continue to be blown away by the low light performance of sony cameras. I've owned an A7iii since it was released.
@arielhernandez6560
@arielhernandez6560 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been debating which of these two cameras to get as my first FF camera. I think this video definitely helped. Thank you for taking the time to make it. Subscribed!
@dbvares8745
@dbvares8745 2 жыл бұрын
Thank YOU for the kind feedback Ariel, very happy to help and awesome to have you on board 💪
@dyed.06
@dyed.06 Жыл бұрын
so what did you get? im planning to get my first FF camera too
@findwill
@findwill 2 жыл бұрын
The way you quickly switch back and forth between ISO levels was incredibly helpful.
@dbvares8745
@dbvares8745 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear findwill and thanks for sharing the nice feedback :) Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great day!
@wahdigitalstudio
@wahdigitalstudio 11 ай бұрын
Thanks, this is what i was looking for to make my decision to buy one of them.
@tonymoua1058
@tonymoua1058 2 жыл бұрын
For the price, FF camera, awesome auto focus with eye autofocus, flippy screen, 24mp for picture, shoots 4k 60, multiple picture profiles to choose from for better color science, the A7c is an awesome choice.
@dulceypetey
@dulceypetey 2 жыл бұрын
4k 60 ?? A7c ??
@tonymoua1058
@tonymoua1058 2 жыл бұрын
@@dulceypetey .....sorry mistype it. Meant to type 4k 24 & 30 fps.
@dbvares8745
@dbvares8745 2 жыл бұрын
I suspect a fair few people wish the a7c had 4k60 haha:) Nonetheless I agree it's a great and very capable for the pice
@AndreiVaida
@AndreiVaida Жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison! Side by side, in low light & fully darkness, with all the settings displayed. Thanks!
@GadgetNeil
@GadgetNeil 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a bit confused by the conclusion, as applied to still photography. I don't do much video so I am interested mainly in stills. I currently have the a6000 but have been considering upgrading to FF, and the a7c looks like a good upgrade path, given the similar benefit of smaller size and weight. But I don't like how the a7c has a kind of crummy EVF, so I was also looking at the a7iii. Now, with the a7iv, there is another consideration. You mentioned that at higher ISOs, the a7iv is sharper and has better colour than the a7c. And it seemed like you were saying overall differences in usable high ISO are not that great. To me, one advantage of moving to FF would be the low light capability. When high ISO capability and IBIS and a fast lens are combined, it can be incredible how dark a scene can be photographed without flash. So, would the main conclusion be that, for stills, there isn't much difference between the a7c and a7iv at ISO 12,800 or 25,600 ? If so, then the a7iv is much more appealing to me, given the higher resolution and better EVF.
@dbvares8745
@dbvares8745 2 жыл бұрын
Hey GN, thanks for the comment and the very good questions. I'm rarely shooting stills but with that caveat aside I think your analysis is right. The advantage with stills is if you have noise there's only one frame to worry about rather than continuous frames and moving noise as in videos. Therefore given slightly smaller and more noticeable noise in those mid/high ISO ranges are the only real downside for the A7iv I'd say it will work better for the use case you describe than the a7c. hope that helps! Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great day!
@SoJooCars
@SoJooCars 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video!
@Abandoned_Wanderer_old
@Abandoned_Wanderer_old 2 жыл бұрын
Hello from Ukraine. I have a sony a7c and I am considering buying a74. There are a couple of questions for you, if you answer, put a heart so that I know. 1. In your night shots, which are stabilized with the help of a Catalyst Browser, the lights are not distorted when I shoot 4K 25 with my a7c at any shutter speed from 1/50 to 1/400, my light sources are distorted and twitch, why is that? 2. I've been looking for a test of active stabilization in the dark at 1/50 for a long time, judging by your video, does it work well in such conditions?
@dbvares8745
@dbvares8745 2 жыл бұрын
Hello and thanks for the good questions:) Light flicker is to do with the electrical output of lights; in the uk most mains electricity is 50hz so 1/50 will sync to the light flicker and avoid flicker problem in video. If the rate is different in Ukraine a different shutter speed may be needed. I talk a bit more on light flicker in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qXi2Ymp5rpp0hac On Q2, yes all the vlog type footage you saw was active steadyshot at 1/50 and I think if you hold the camera steady and try to walk smoothly the results can be really good:) Hope that helps! Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great day 👏
@dccoletrain
@dccoletrain 2 жыл бұрын
Sad thing is they’ve had to suspend production on the A7C so to lack of chips. I’m hoping there’s an A7C ii
@dbvares8745
@dbvares8745 2 жыл бұрын
Hey DC, great to hear from you:) I heard that too - hopefully temporarily as I think a7c fill a valid part of the product line. A7c2 I hope will arrive but I doubt in the next year or two
@ExploringWorldYouTube
@ExploringWorldYouTube 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I thank you to share your interesting video. I'd like to as a question but beforse I'd like to know if you have you ever used the Lumix GH5 MarkII. Thanks for your reply.
@dbvares8745
@dbvares8745 2 жыл бұрын
Hey EWYT, I've never had a chance to use the Lumix I'm afraid but hapy to help if I can with your Q:) Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great day!
@equiz
@equiz 2 жыл бұрын
Bro make a video please on how to achieve this exact lightning setup from your video, it’s gorgeous!
@CC-gt3ro
@CC-gt3ro 2 жыл бұрын
Very good and honest comparison. I like my a7c. A7iv seems good for a 33mp sensor. I was expecting worse result from high mp sensor. But many persons have confirm the a7c is better for low noise in photo in low light condition. Which is logical to my opinion. And a7iv of course improve on autofocus, format, resolution so can bring more details. But noise are important and sony a7c is a very good photo and video camera. Just with the right specs.
@dbvares8745
@dbvares8745 2 жыл бұрын
Great analysis as ever CC and fully agree. It’s definitely close between these 2 out of camera though I’m now curious how proper 10 bit slog would do on the a7iv so will investigate in the future! Hope you’re doing well and having a good day 👍
@truthseeker6804
@truthseeker6804 2 жыл бұрын
good comparison, i have no interest in any, but still watched it. keep it up.
@dbvares8745
@dbvares8745 2 жыл бұрын
Very much appreciated and great to see you as ever TS:)
@r0a0y
@r0a0y 2 жыл бұрын
Love your reviews, I had the A7C and bought the A7IV based on this test. I was very happy with the A7C but ergonomically this worked out better. Also, your dialogue is bloody hilarious keep up the amazing work!!!!!!!!!
@rickbiessman6084
@rickbiessman6084 Жыл бұрын
Not only did I enjoy the video - I especially liked the alliteration attack! :D
@samsargdong1135
@samsargdong1135 Жыл бұрын
Hi,I prefer the results delivered by the Sony A7C! It would have been great if you had done a photographic test since I almost never use the video mode in a camera!
@AlaraDincYT
@AlaraDincYT 2 жыл бұрын
this is a really thoughtful review!!
@bitdancer1005
@bitdancer1005 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video! It has aided me greatly in my decision making. I also marvel at your astounding ability at alliteration 😁
@dbvares8745
@dbvares8745 2 жыл бұрын
Really happy to help JEP and always aiming to amiably aliterate, albeit atrociously ambivalently;) Consider subbing if you enjoy the content and have an awesome day!
@faisalsheraz8101
@faisalsheraz8101 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparision..sony a7c is a good option with good price and lowlight iso performance but one thing still bothers me about not having full mechanical shutter which will effect bokeh.
@CC-gt3ro
@CC-gt3ro 2 жыл бұрын
I have a7c. Bokeh is super nice with my tamron 17-28 f2.8 and naturally with a good zoom like tamron 70-300. You should see the pictures you can make with this camera…sometime outside for wildlife i also use the electronic shutter in silent mode for wildlife and you can go 1/8000 in this mode. I deactivate silent mode for anything else especially in interior as light would create strip on the picture. In normal mode you can shoot anything you want and bokeh are always superb, full well rounded. The lens is important of course. I choose the 17-28 it is high quality. And the 70-300 is sharp and pictures are really good with superb bokeh.
@faisalsheraz8101
@faisalsheraz8101 2 жыл бұрын
@@CC-gt3ro thanks for the detailed reply..what i have seen in some reviews they mentioned that EFSC has problems with busy and disturbing bokeh and uneven exposure sometimes with faster shutter speeds 1/2000 and above and there you need mechanical shutter.
@CC-gt3ro
@CC-gt3ro 2 жыл бұрын
@@faisalsheraz8101 i didn’t see any issues with the Non silent mode which is a mechanical shutter (1/4000) . Silent mode is full electronic shutter (1/8000). I use full electronic shutter only outside for wildlife to not afraid animals, and i use mechanical shutter for everything else. A7c has mechanical shutter this is why i don’t get stip on my pictures with halogen lamp. One time i lost my pictures because i used the silent mode inside with the lamp. It prove the a7c has two shutter modes. With silent mode disabled, the photos are always great whatever lighting conditions and speed operation. That’s all i know.
@CC-gt3ro
@CC-gt3ro 2 жыл бұрын
@@faisalsheraz8101 i will redo a set of photo with and without silent mode at low speed and high speed above 1/2000 to compare them. I can try up to 1/4000 and 1/8000 in silent mode. I never compare that kind of shoot. It is above my usage. . Of course i will have to change the iso to keep the exposure. I will let you know if i find something. But my thought is the a7c result will come up very good. It is a fantastic camera. Even better than a7iv in low light condition in photo and video in the range 100-12800 from other users feedback.
@faisalsheraz8101
@faisalsheraz8101 2 жыл бұрын
@@CC-gt3ro kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqXXl6B5p8-ers0 This is one of the few videos i have seen where EFSC has bokeh problems...i also.have watched some reviews of A7c where it is mentioned that by not having full mechanical shutter(only EFCS) you could have distracting and busy bokeh..
@DrWasim
@DrWasim Жыл бұрын
WHY ARE YOU NOT UPLOADING
@maratidrisov7711
@maratidrisov7711 2 жыл бұрын
Спасибо за видео! Я как раз нахожусь перед выбором, замены A73 на A7c или A74. Данное видео очень полезно для принятия решения.
@TheThaiLife
@TheThaiLife 2 жыл бұрын
The Russell Band of camera reviews. Love it!
@dbvares8745
@dbvares8745 2 жыл бұрын
As far as comparisons go I'll take that one - appreciate it:) Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great day!
@TheThaiLife
@TheThaiLife 2 жыл бұрын
@@dbvares8745 oh, I subbed the first minute I watched your video. :)
@Jabber-ig3iw
@Jabber-ig3iw 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking more Alex Cox, ( film director and presenter of cult film show Moviedrome)
@spdcrzy
@spdcrzy 2 жыл бұрын
DB, any idea if Sony will ever release an A7C II? And does KZbin compression make a noticeable enough dent in professionally graded 600Mbps 10-bit 4:2:2 ALL-I footage from the A7IV that it wouldn't necessarily look better than if the 8-bit 4:2:0 100Mbps footage from an A7C was simply converted, exported, and uploaded to KZbin straight out of camera at 4K24 or 4K30? I'm geniunely curious, because if I can go with an A7C, I could keep that on my Crane M3 gimbal and just use the APS-C lenses I already have. They're still E-mount and IIRC shooting video in crop mode still gives you 4000x2666 pixels out of the total 6000x4000 to work with. And that will be downsampled to 3840x2160, if my understanding is correct.
@dbvares8745
@dbvares8745 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Sai, so very interest Qs there! I think the a7ii may well arrive but only in a few years when it's economical and production-wise cheap and easy to miniaturise the a7iv core components and when the a7c features are too dated to command that $1500-$2000 price point. It's hard to be definitive on how good footage will look once processed through different routes, but it's fair to say if you're mainly targeting YT then unless the audience is pro cinematogrpahers, colourists etc many won't notice huge differences in image qwuality but will focus more on content. The higher quality footage is used as an input the more quality will make it through any compression or such, but I suspect the noticeable difference is on a diminishing returns type pattern. As for crop mode - I tend to agree. I've done a lot in crop mode on both a7c and a7iv and never had issues (nor had anyone spot issues) in footage quality so I think Sony does a good job delivering cropped 4k on their full frame sensors. Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great day!
@attract1212
@attract1212 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison, thanks!
@rudchaponsanyanusin3104
@rudchaponsanyanusin3104 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice comparison! Like the real world focus of the content.
@dbvares8745
@dbvares8745 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the feedback Rudchapon:) Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great day 👍
@dbvares8745
@dbvares8745 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the feedback Rudchapon:) Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great day 👍
@mikey7326
@mikey7326 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the testing.
@dbvares8745
@dbvares8745 2 жыл бұрын
You’re very welcome Mikey! Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great day 👍
@DMProductions
@DMProductions 2 жыл бұрын
great and entertaining 🤜
@dbvares8745
@dbvares8745 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks DM, really appreciate the kind words! I see you've built a sizable channel so huge respect on that too - hope I can follow in those footsteps eventually:) Cheers and have a great weekend!
@TheDIYFilmmaker
@TheDIYFilmmaker 2 жыл бұрын
Great comparison, just what I needed. Cheers!
@dbvares8745
@dbvares8745 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks DIYF, appreciate your feedback:) Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great day 👍
@nogerboher5266
@nogerboher5266 2 жыл бұрын
It's not about ''LOW MP SENSOR VERSUS HIGH MP SENSOR'' that determines the base low light performance of a sensor... It's the size of the individual pixels that determine the base performance of a sensor. The higher the pixel pitch, the more light the sensor will gather and the more light the sensor gathers the better the base low light performance will be. Now there's also a few other factors that get thrown into the ''low light performance calculator'' but the pixel size aka. pixel pitch is the main, the biggest and most accurate indicator of how well a sensor will perform in low light situations/conditions. For example, the a7IV has a pixel pitch of about 25.88 square micrometers, while a camera like the a7slll has a pixel pitch of 70.55 square micrometers, so it's pretty obvious that the sensor on the a7slll will be able to gather way more light than the sensor on the a7IV, as it has almost three times larger pixels than the sensor in the a7IV. Most Full Frame sensors are 24x36 millimeters in size, so the more pixels you put on that 24x36mm sensor surface, the smaller the pixels will need to be to fit onto that surface. The pixel size of a sensor in relation to its low light performance also depends on the type of the sensor, for example, if it's a backside illuminated sensor, you can squeeze in more resolution without losing on low light performance. So if we have a 20MP CMOS sensor and a 25MP BSI sensor, they will perform about the same in low light situations/conditions, despite the BSI sensor having smaller pixels - all thanks to the sensor being backside illuminated!
@CC-gt3ro
@CC-gt3ro 2 жыл бұрын
I think sony has reveal a new layout where they will stack the photodiode. So on the next camera like a futur a7cii i could see a 24mp sensor again but with better low light performance than a7siii. The photodiode will take the entire surface. We will see. It could be very interesting.
@nogerboher5266
@nogerboher5266 2 жыл бұрын
@@CC-gt3ro That seems possible, very possible. Considering how well stacked CMOS sensors and BSI sensors perform in low light, this would be even better.
@dbvares8745
@dbvares8745 2 жыл бұрын
Some excellent and articulate intel there NB - you put it far better than I could have, but this was the 'it's not straightforward' I was mentioning RE: the whole high v low MP sensor narrative that has become widespread. I'd love to learn more about the physics and electronics of these things so if you recommend any particular resources do let me know:) Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great day!
@CC-gt3ro
@CC-gt3ro 2 жыл бұрын
@@dbvares8745 this guy talk better than me about it around 3 min 43sec you have the diagram. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a4HGZJmvorqJqcU
@CC-gt3ro
@CC-gt3ro 2 жыл бұрын
@@nogerboher5266 from this guy. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a4HGZJmvorqJqcU
@leqnard.
@leqnard. 10 ай бұрын
is the noise in "normal" mode worse ? can i just use it and have the same levels of noise as Slog 2
@kendallbarthelmy2881
@kendallbarthelmy2881 2 жыл бұрын
It's here!!!
@kendallbarthelmy2881
@kendallbarthelmy2881 2 жыл бұрын
Just finished watching. Absolutely loved it man. Critical, comprehensive, well done. Most of all, your alliterations make go back 5 seconds just to hear em again! haha Great stuff!
@dbvares8745
@dbvares8745 2 жыл бұрын
Massively appreciate the kind words and positive feedback dude - thanks so much:) Hope you’ve had a great festive period and an awesome day 👏👍
@Momo-ld9mj
@Momo-ld9mj 2 жыл бұрын
Should I buy the A7c or the A7 IV (A7c german market: 2000 Euros and the A7 IV german market: 2800 Euros), Dec. 2021 the price was 1600 Euros (A7c) and I don't get the huge price gain at all. So if I will spend more than 2k on a camera it should be a solid purchase, future proof as well and I can't wait for the A7C ii. To be honest from 2k to 2,8k is not much difference if we compare the price and value. It will be my first camera and I am a hybrid shooter with my Samsung S20 plus. Can somebody help me out?
@dbvares8745
@dbvares8745 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Momo, if cost is not an issue I'd personally say the a7iv has enough advantages in video (especially stabilisation and 10 bit colour depth) to be my preferred choice. I don't shoot much still stuff, but if I did I think the ergonomics, viewfinder and higher resolution of the a7iv will still make it my pick. Let me know what you choose and happy shooting:) Consider subbing if you like the content and have a great day!
@edwardkim2416
@edwardkim2416 Жыл бұрын
Hi what picture profile was this shot in? thanks
@frankfeng2701
@frankfeng2701 2 жыл бұрын
Would like to see 1080p image quality comparison at all frame rates.
@dbvares8745
@dbvares8745 2 жыл бұрын
Good suggestion Frank, added to my idea list - will consider how best to do this. Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great day!
@davitavagyan1851
@davitavagyan1851 2 жыл бұрын
what compact lens would you recommend for a7 iv? something lightweight small
@dbvares8745
@dbvares8745 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Davit, a lot will depend on the focal length and aperture you want, plus if you're shooting video or photo (for video using crop lenses doesn't really impact things since 4k is still comfortably oversampled in the crop view). However here are some options for lenses I like which are all fairly small and compact: Sony 28-60 - kzbin.info/www/bejne/a4OYgo2wh6eqeKs Samyang 24mm - kzbin.info/www/bejne/lXStZH1oiqd1aa8 Sony 50mm - kzbin.info/www/bejne/gn-vZWqfbMSpZ9U Sony 20mm - kzbin.info/www/bejne/fnjHmX2lipekiKM Sigma 30mm - kzbin.info/www/bejne/n17RoYKgZ8qdiac Sony 16-50mm - kzbin.info/www/bejne/eGaXnYidisqYaLs Hope some of that will help and drop a new comment if you have any Qs (I often don't get notifications for replies). Consider subbing if you like the content and have a great day:)
@markwoollard
@markwoollard 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the variety of settings you chose. And I'm a fan of wordsmithing, so really appreciated yours. It helped me stay focused!!
@dbvares8745
@dbvares8745 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic to hear Mark, really appreciate the kind feedback:) Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great day!
@KUBAGRANCANARIA
@KUBAGRANCANARIA 2 жыл бұрын
thanx for video again mate, but really some low lights was a better on A7C or it just look like? who won for low light? thanx
@dbvares8745
@dbvares8745 2 жыл бұрын
Hey KUBA, I do think the a7c is cleaner straight out of camera for noise from around iso3200-12800 so will look better in some situations. The overall conclusion factors in more things like colour and sharpness but those won’t necessarily be relevant to every shot. A7c is definitely a great choice but I very slightly gave the victory to a7iv because of the wider factors. Most important thing is your use case and opinion as always:)
@KUBAGRANCANARIA
@KUBAGRANCANARIA 2 жыл бұрын
@@dbvares8745 of course and thank you a lot for your wide answer. I got a plan to use also for pics and film too and guess that a7iv is better invest for future then reallzý good a7c
@DannysHauntedJourney
@DannysHauntedJourney 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so ready for this.
@dbvares8745
@dbvares8745 2 жыл бұрын
Hope it lived up to the anticipation 😊💪
@jasonlindquistmedia
@jasonlindquistmedia 2 жыл бұрын
not sure if its my monitor or the footage but looks like right side of screen about 3 inches from the frame there is a line I can see that is noticeable?
@truthseeker6804
@truthseeker6804 2 жыл бұрын
your monitor
@dbvares8745
@dbvares8745 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah if you let me know the time stamp I’ll check but I don’t think that’s in the original 🤞 Good to hear from you either way JL, thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a good day 👍
@RobotRamses
@RobotRamses 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video 🤙🏻
@dbvares8745
@dbvares8745 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much and have a great weekend:)
@rockdabeat6794
@rockdabeat6794 2 жыл бұрын
Would the results be same for stills?
@dbvares8745
@dbvares8745 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Rockdabeat, I'd say the A7iv probably has more of an advantage for still as noise in one frame is less of an issue than continuous moving noise so I'd give the a7iv slightly more of an edge actually. Hope that helps! Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great day!
@davidhacklander6178
@davidhacklander6178 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thank you.
@SOLIDSNAKE.
@SOLIDSNAKE. 2 жыл бұрын
Hello newbie here I'm buying one or the other tommorow can someone help?
@dbvares8745
@dbvares8745 2 жыл бұрын
Solid Snake, great name - I loved your work in Shadow Moses;) Sorry for the delayed reply; I'd say the A7c will be strong for most things especially if you're new to shooting, but if stabilisation or colour grading are important to you the a7iv may be a better choice - it always depends on your intended use:) Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great day!
@SOLIDSNAKE.
@SOLIDSNAKE. 2 жыл бұрын
@@dbvares8745!
@mrpleezy5275
@mrpleezy5275 11 ай бұрын
@@dbvares8745I want to do both but not much on low light pictures but also for wildlife and pictures if and when I go hiking
@KungFuTze
@KungFuTze 8 ай бұрын
considering that there's about a $1000.00 price difference between the a7c and a7iv in 2024, and I'm venturing on my first mirrorless I think I'm getting my feet wet with the A7C I don't have any aspirations of becoming professional and this is mostly a hobby for me!
@billireland4481
@billireland4481 2 жыл бұрын
Well Done!!
@dbvares8745
@dbvares8745 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bill:) Consider subscribing if you enjoyed and have a great day 👍
@nasri
@nasri Жыл бұрын
With the A7cii out, a used A7c is now half the price of a used 7iv. I don’t need 10 bit for now and I don’t feel the iv is twice the camera. Looks like I’m getting myself an a7c.
@darkpixelstudios
@darkpixelstudios 2 жыл бұрын
hi could you make a 4k (24fps) and 1080p (24,60,120fps) side by side ? i´d love to know if 1080p from the 7iv igual, better or worse compaired to the a7c/iii and nobody has done a video about it yet. ... as far as i know. I own a a7iii as of now i use it mostly in 1080p and a lot of 60fps i think id like to upgrade to a 4k workflow but often i do not need all that memory havy resolution...or i need 120fps and dont want to mix 4k and 1080p so which one has better/sharper 120fps or 1080p in general? (a video is a lot to ask ,a just comment from your end on that topic, would be very helpfull as well)
@dbvares8745
@dbvares8745 2 жыл бұрын
Hey DPS, good Q - I'll see about devising some tests to consider this. Take care and have a great weekend!
@rothameth4061
@rothameth4061 2 жыл бұрын
Miss you Vares From me Rotha ☺️
@dbvares8745
@dbvares8745 2 жыл бұрын
I’m still here Rotha:) BusyAF and hard to make as many vids as I’d like but still here 😂 Good to see you and hope you’re doing well 👍
@LivLanita
@LivLanita 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!! 🥰👍👌👏
@Alesscamera
@Alesscamera 2 жыл бұрын
A7C is better in low light than the A7IV! i found too much noise in the A7IV in many situations specially in photography...
@KUBAGRANCANARIA
@KUBAGRANCANARIA 2 жыл бұрын
oh really? And how is it about focusing? I thought that in bought cameras are same system of focusin, or not?
@Alesscamera
@Alesscamera 2 жыл бұрын
@@KUBAGRANCANARIA autofocus is better in the Sony A7IV specially when keeping eyes on focus! But my only complain is the low light performance specially when doing astrophotography or situations where you need to increase the iso too much
@CC-gt3ro
@CC-gt3ro 2 жыл бұрын
@@Alesscamera it is not surprising and follow the rule : more megapixels = more noise at high iso. 24mp is the right sensor. 12 (a7siii) is too small. 33mp (a7iv) is a bit too much. 50mp (a1) is not good at all in low light. 24 is just the right thing. This is why i choose the a7c. It is fantastic for photo. And for video on a gimbal it fits nearly on even the smallest gimbal. The files are still very manageable. You can put it in your coat. And you still have access to aps-c mode. And the silver edition is the best looking camera of Sony right now. It is also a commercial success i think. There are so many persons that bought it.
@Alesscamera
@Alesscamera 2 жыл бұрын
@@CC-gt3ro yes I definitely agree I still hold my Sony A7C I didn’t sell it! And well I can’t believe that I still prefer the Sony A7C for photography over the Sony A7IV! Now I feel a bit sad they increase the megapixels in the Sony A7IV if it was 24! It would be perfect camera absolutely
@dbvares8745
@dbvares8745 2 жыл бұрын
Great discussion and agree. Noise wise I think a7c is definitely cleaner; at least for video - I rarely do photography tbh From my perspective I’d have love 24 or even 20 megapixel a7iv for even better low light but I understand why they went a different route. It’s still good enough for me in all realistic situations. And while I’d love to keep my a7c too I’m not sure my wallet can justify it 😂
@mlnima
@mlnima Жыл бұрын
I have a question, you are making a review of a camera and your video qualiy is super bad due to low bitrate. why? I suggest you move the export bitrate on minimum 100 in h264
@andersistbesser
@andersistbesser 2 жыл бұрын
The a74 has dual iso the a7c has not. This counts for much more than a few mpixel difference.
@kendallbarthelmy2881
@kendallbarthelmy2881 2 жыл бұрын
It does
@dbvares8745
@dbvares8745 2 жыл бұрын
Agree the dual iso definitely helps, but of course the absolute amount of noise you can spot remains key also so I'm always curious to compare at multiple ISO levels:) Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great day!
@WayanSam
@WayanSam 2 жыл бұрын
“more green than a carbon conscious corporate” 😂😂😂
@gillesmatheronpro
@gillesmatheronpro 2 жыл бұрын
For months and months, I've been wondering what philosophy on YT would sound and feel like... now I know. But why so many sequences and montage cuts, with weird colours and meaningless framing angles, when a single shot coud have done it ? Still wondering. The beauty of philosophy, most probably.
@dbvares8745
@dbvares8745 2 жыл бұрын
And indeed was it philosophy or an abortive at attempt landing in self satire? I don’t even know myself 😂 But some interesting stuff here and a good read:) Thanks for watching Giles, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great day 👍
@gillesmatheronpro
@gillesmatheronpro 2 жыл бұрын
@@dbvares8745 I thought I've had done it... well no. Too much self-confidence probably, and not enough philosophy. Probably. Still, we can discuss and argue about probabilities... 🤣
@WayanSam
@WayanSam 2 жыл бұрын
“like the Spice Girls in the mid 1990s with a sobering and emotionlessly consistent 100% hit rate” 😂😂😂😂😂
@dbvares8745
@dbvares8745 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad someone enjoys my bizarre humour 😂
@hiDadsouppodcast
@hiDadsouppodcast 2 жыл бұрын
My app is only playing in 480p max quality.... soo it’s all bad to my eyes
@dbvares8745
@dbvares8745 2 жыл бұрын
Haha - good old 480p. That was the standard for big screen tv back in the day - funny how we've moved on isn't it:) Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great day!
@hiDadsouppodcast
@hiDadsouppodcast 2 жыл бұрын
@@dbvares8745 so true, we've trained our eyes for 1080 and 4k already. I fixed the advanced settings and got 1080 now. great vid.
@ivandj707
@ivandj707 2 жыл бұрын
We all know that a7iv is a better camera than a7c, and it's really comical that you had to emphasize that every 10 seconds. Is the sale of the new model going so bad ...
@CC-gt3ro
@CC-gt3ro 2 жыл бұрын
It is not a better camera. It has some criterias advantages but that’s it. The a7c has better low light performance especially in photos, as many can confirm that and the a7c is more lightweight. I also prefer the evf on the left so my noise don’t touch the camera body. A7c silver edition is nicer too. It fits more easily on gimbals. It is of course less expensive. These criterias are important. The a7iv does not win on all criterias. A7c has its place, and it is the best sony hybrid compact camera to my opinion.
@dbvares8745
@dbvares8745 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I do think it’s true the a7iv is not best in every category - think I did cover the tradeoffs in the video including around straight out of camera noise. For me as a left the a7c is terrible though 😂 Bottom line is the a7iv has numerous but not comprehensive advantages and re a7c also has a bunch of advantages-which is why individual use case is so key! Interesting discussion and hope you both have a great day 💪
@EnnTomi1
@EnnTomi1 2 жыл бұрын
0:22 wtf are those???
@tunneltu
@tunneltu Жыл бұрын
We can`t see the background so how can we know you are in the process of moving? I smell camera conspiracy
@truthseeker6804
@truthseeker6804 2 жыл бұрын
Philip bloom is tr*sh. make art now is better.
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