Sony A7IV vs A7SIII High ISO Video - A NEW Low Light King??

[@joshmoxey.]

Damn, I’m impressed by the A7IV. I thought the A7SIII was going to wreck it - I was wrong. Good comparison man, appreciate you making this!

[@jespersichlau4343]

My takeaway from this test is that the A7sIII is "cleaner" at the highest iso's but that image is so heavily compressed by the internal noise reduction that it's unusable (to me). In my opinion Neat Video does a better job at redusing noise than Sony's internal process. For future noise tests, please also use zoomed in stills (screengrabs from video), as the youtube compression makes it impossible to see the actual difference.

[@puredistancegolf]

Agreed. Starts to look mushy and cell phone-y.

[@brianpark2564]

i'd redo these tests with 2 of the same lenses, esp since gm lenses usually have better AF in low light so i wouldn't necessarily attribute the faster focus, etc to the a7iv until a more level playing field is had

[@AllCarsUnited]

Autofocus may be different because...... Ones a gmaster lens the other s Tamron.

[@dymanh]

Thanks for doing this comparison! I wanted to know if I should get the new A7IV or the A7SIII as my second camera. I am a photographer/videographer and the only camera I have right now is the A7rIII. I been using Fuji X-S10 as my second camera for awhile now.

[@Teh_Chosen_Juan]

so slog3 isn't good for low light? i shot a small clip of some xmas lights at 3200 iso (slog3) and it looked like complete shit on my a7iv. still trying to figure out the best way to expose in low light.

[@belarus_video]

Slog3 only for good light. For lowlight use cine4

[@GearFocus]

Surprising performance from the A7IV.

[@youareawesome8]

Thanks for the comparison. I notice at 5:25, the A7S3 exposure show brighter by +2/3 even though the both camera setting is the same, can you confirm that. wonder why? thanks

[@LeeZavitz]

No idea. Could be the way light is hitting lens or the lens it’s self. Sony GM on the left and Tamron on the right

[@amitkrupal1234]

Maybe coz of pixel pitch

[@fwfeo]

It's probably the screen brightness. He said the panels are different. The proof is in the side by sides. The camera screens are not reliable for comparisons.

[@MajorMotions]

The pixels are bigger on the s3 vs the IV. To put it in layman’s terms imagine if u had 12 big windows (12mp) to light your house (sensor) vs 33 tiny windows (33mp) to light that same house (sensor). Your house would receive more light because of the bigger windows. That’s why cine camera operators opt for the lowest megapixels possible because they give the better and cleaner image. Hope that helps.

[@TheAaronalden]

I can't wait for the a7iv to start shipping!

[@_cjmccullough]

You also had a Sony 24-70 on one camera and the Tamron 28-75 on the other. That affects the autofocus test as well as the Sony’s autofocus is probably still better

[@rattoh]

anf tstop

[@mike_s_media]

I use Sigma and Sony GM glass and have not had any issues with my a7Siii AF in extreme low light. Makes me wonder if it's just Tamron being Tamron with the AF, they seem to bog down AF on every camera I've watched reviews on...That a7IV looks like a great bargain for what all it offers! I think when you venture into real darkness and not lit up streets at night the a7Siii truly shows it's low light capabilities. Also, would have been a more apples to apples comparison had you kept aperture and shutter speed equal for both cameras in slog3 opposed to adjusting the a7Siii down for exposure. Or at least show both at 3200 iso then both at 12800 iso to show what both are capable of at their second native iso. Not to mention what happens as you climb past 12800 lol Either way, great unbiased video!

[@dinucaptar8316]

You are a 7 IV ? Because you are a7siiii...I understand...

[@БольшойБратухин]

Hey Lee! Thannks for this comparison. Can you share some S-Log and S-Cinetone files from a7 IV with the highest ISO to download? I wanna compare low light capability of a7 IV with my Lumix S5. I'm not sure if I should switch over.

[@memzTV]

I don't do video, but I also have a Panasonic S5. Was thinking of the a7 IV mostly because of the lenses that I want.

[@veesoho93]

Thank you so much for this video, exactly what i needed, plus cool vibe and cool and honest expression

[@LeeZavitz]

Appreciate it :)

[@circleinfo]

Here are some suggestions for future videos: 1. Use a tripod, because with movement it is very difficult to see noise levels 2. Show 200% zoomed in videos, to see the differences better

[@Art-o4j2l]

Why do you compressing camera with different lenses on it .. it don’t give us identical result

[@tomkro9704]

Is there ANY chance you could show us how well the animal / bird eye AF is working with the SEL200600 ? Can’t find any videos about it and I’m in the place either to invest in R6 or A7IV but can’t make a decision without seeing how well the A7IV performs for wildlife…I know it’s not your theme…but maybe?!…

[@DavidStella]

I’m hoping someone like Ryan Mense drops a video on that.

[@tomkro9704]

Will need to check this dude out… thank you!

[@ollenilssonen]

I have a video about the exact subject! :) Cheers

[@EYECRAFTVideo]

One of the best Camera comparisons Ive seen - your a champ

[@tvm2209]

Hey brother what would you recommend for someone doing both photography and video in terms of a single camera and lens(es) if budget/cost was unlimited? So far I am thinking either Sony Alpha 1 (A1), Sony A7IV, or A7SIII . Ignore prices, I looking to buy once/cry once on most versatile camera & lens(es) setup.

[@Ankit_Lakraaaaaaa]

Hie, I am also confused, have you bought the cameras, what is your setup. I am thinking of buying Alpha1 (A1) as my primary camera and I'll be waiting for something new from Sony to come out to use it out as a secondary camera.

[@felixlechat1780]

@@Ankit_Lakraaaaaaa The sony A1 is overkill at 8000$😑

[@NH_NDoutdoors]

Does it have anything to do with the lenses?? Do certain ones pull in more light?

[@dannygrau2983]

I own the a7siii . I'm obsessed. I feel like if your a low light shooter its a must own.

[@jasonswanepoel8597]

Thanks for doing this it was helpful

[@jiajianhou426]

how about both slog 3 at 12800?

[@nosky4673]

Great video. I’m wondering if the stabilization is better on one or the other or if you for sure had the same settings to ibis. The side by side looks different.

[@Sondaroe]

the A7IV looked much smoother. I wonder if the active stabilisation is better or if using the Sony GM is better than the Tamron?

[@joseluisruiz3789]

Thank my dude for another amazing video, I'm not sure why I barely got the recommendation for it when I'm subscribed to your channel and I have the bell notification on the option to get every video notice from you. Anyways I'm waiting for my pre order A7IV. I just got my 24-70mm Sony G Master Lens shipped out with some 82mm ND filters from B&H Photo along with a Atomos Shinobi 5.2 monitor. When I first subscribed and said that I want to learn as much as you are willing to share I meant it 100% and some of this gear I got because you are using it so i figured if someone with experience like you is using this gear, maybe I small youtuber like my self should give it a try too. Thanks again man. I'm not sure where you are located but I'm watching you from Los Angeles, California. 🙏🙇‍♂️

[@nabilMARF]

did you use a denoiser plug in before exporting ?

[@huyked]

Wow. Thank you so much for this!

[@DannysHauntedJourney]

I need full dungeon comparisons. Go into the darkest sewer, and hit record. That's low light ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@CherryandTrevor]

What size as card do you use? How much recording time in xavc si 4k will it give you?

[@jasonodine]

I use a CFexpress card 256gb and get about 3 and a half hours

[@m1sly]

what is the best profile to shoot in low light on the a7iv?

[@braxtonwoullard1188]

S cinetone for super low light…Slog 3 struggles sometimes in extreme low light.

[@johndc7446]

When it comes to noise, which performs better the S5 or the a7IV?

[@johnny.monteiro]

Yo, can you do 4k60p high iso test? to see how the crop affect this camera...

[@evanvalenta7621]

Okay but why is the exposure comp at different levels? @3:50 sneaky...

[@LeeZavitz]

There is no exposure compensation on. Everything is manually set to the same. It’s just whatever the camera was metering

[@evanvalenta7621]

@@LeeZavitz ahh okay my bad thanks for clarifying

[@clydedigital]

I really liked that video. Thanks for taking the time to do that for us. Does the dual iso thing only apply to slog? Does it kick in when using s-cinetone too?

[@mproviser]

pretty sure it does but the base iso levels in cinetone are different than slog3

[@GlassfilmWeddings]

you had the gmaster on the a74.... Gmaster is king... of course looks amazing and better than tamron lol.

[@mcjediting]

Awesome comparison video!

[@paulbeckmann]

Great info and good work!

[@travelneed3406]

Hello, loved your videos …I am new in photography and I want to make short cinematic videos , vlogs and also want to take some great pictures…I want the best both video & photo camera …which one do you suggest if budget is between 3000-5500rs …can you recommend 2-3 options …I have shortlisted Sony A7 III / Sony A7 IV/ Sony A7R III / SONY A7S III

[@stkuj]

Lee... there have been some early reports of potential over heating - even some reports of people saying it felt warm just setting up the menus. Did you experience any warming or over heating?

[@LeeZavitz]

No I never had any issues, I Even used it on a job shooting photo and video for like 10hrs. But I wasn’t continuously recording video for that long. Just 5-10mins on and off between taking photos

[@nobit3000]

I tested my A7iv recording 1 hour 50 minutes of 4K 25p (yes, I‘m in Europe) untill I gave up - so no issues

[@saemranian]

thanks for sharing MAN

[@blackmagicmuzik]

I get the comparison but don't the two different lenses matter??

[@selvaweddingphotography3060]

Which one is better dynamic and colour and alll rounder ( canon r6 or Sony A74 )?

[@dna8269]

Sony always has better DR, Canon better color SOOC. R6 has less crop in 4k 60 but its not as sharp. Higher resolution stills out of the Sony. R6 has better ergonomics, I think. Just really depends what features your prefer.

[@selvaweddingphotography3060]

@@dna8269 sony not come better' colour compare to canon R6?

[@marcusmurray5440]

Hi Lee, great video. Will you upload a video of your sony a7 iv camera settings?

[@LeeZavitz]

Yeah I can once I get my a7iv. They say dec.30 is when my pre order comes out. I filmed this video way back when I had the loaner camera in October

[@marcusmurray5440]

@@LeeZavitz thank you. Still waiting for mine.

[@AdamWayneHughes]

nice video dude

[@syedarmaghanhassan4652]

the guy who is shooting you looks obsessed with the vertigo effect.

[@dannygrau2983]

Does the a7siii handle low light well at 4k 60p ?

[@LeeZavitz]

It’s one of the best cameras you can buy for that

[@dannygrau2983]

My go to iso is 20,000 but I have comfortably shot all they up to iso 40,000 when I absolutely need to.

[@gadgetphilosophy8290]

Great job

[@kostasrestas]

nice !!i'm waiting adobe for update that can ''read'' RAW files from a7iv and thennn...just go for it..!! cheers !!!

[@LeeZavitz]

I’m surprised it’s taken so long for them to get that out

[@LuisFelipeBustilloVelasquez]

Already update it since yesterday. Changelog says it read a7m4 raw files

[@captaintendean4116]

can A7Siii shutter closes when turned off?

[@colorpages6910]

Hello captain how are you,my channel i wait you😌😌

[@RockyMaiviaMiami]

No it does not. Could come in a firmware though

[@captaintendean4116]

@@RockyMaiviaMiami im hopping for it. But i dont understand why is it taking so long? The a9ii already got that FWU

[@Jaimesebe]

Nope!!Only the A1 and the A7IV

[@sellwithmanuel]

what's the native iso for the a7iv?

[@LeeZavitz]

Just depends on what picture profile you are in. For slog3 is 800/3200

[@beback27]

In general, appreciate your effort. Besides, I would like to ask for low light king still image in comparision between a7iv and a7siii. Which one is the best? Is a7siii mainly used for video shooting or still shooting? Thank for your comment.

[@iljabuinitski9745]

I'm disappointed that Sony A7IV is worse with same settings that I tried with A7III following low light tip from Make Art now channel from Josh Jo. It was so clean on A7III !

[@EyeLensWeddingVideography]

I would have liked to see you do 60 FPS comparison

[@mproviser]

He probably didn't do this because the A7iv has a crop at 60fps

[@daaddyo1249]

Should've done 4k60 because of the crop, I'm sure it would have been a much bigger difference

[@michialharris1850]

the 4 looks cleaner

[@Alex_Cid]

How about 50000 Iso?

[@motebike]

I probably got the worst copy of the A7 IV because the noise, even at ISO 1200, is appalling. The noise on the darker portion of pics I took are the ugliest I've seen from a modern camera. To my eyes it's a low light pauper, not a king or even a prince. Am selling the camera.

[@LeeZavitz]

Yeah something doesn’t sound right.

[@mirrorlessmemory]

🧢🧢🧢

[@dna8269]

the a7iii didn't even have bad noise at ISO 1200

[@kostaschelioths6608]

2 cameras is so good. But the a7siii is never overheat.

[@francisjun]

lol!

[@saurabhshastri9549]

Nice video

[@Ilia.zf1999]

you should use same lens in each camera

[@JuannPaezz]

loved the video but please next time use a tripod

[@eduvivan2562]

I actually prefer the a7iv look.

[@Sanjay-xk1uz]

Good🌿

[@louispasdeprenom9950]

hope you doing same thing for photo :)

[@derrickvision9547]

Word

[@derrickvision9547]

Fo shizzle my crizzle

[@andrewpair]

3 main reasons the A7S III triumphs over A7 IV: 1) CF Express Type A (missing in A7 IV) 2) 4K/60 crop (no crop in A7S III) 3) Rolling shutter (much better in A7S III) Overall for most, the A7 IV is a better purchase for a hybrid camera.

[@gurugamer8632]

Why u need CF express A?

[@mproviser]

Yeah i don't understand why CF express is a must.

[@sinhafamily]

"Thumbs down twice", lol nice one.

[@joneu4206]

First and I am so happy now 😆

[@youtubetech7995]

Lee, It's no trash at ISO 3200 if you know how to setup your camera (a7SIII) Best Quality settings starting from : ISO 80 = Movie, Still ISO 1000 = Cine2, HLG1 ISO 1250 = Cine 1, ISO 1600 = All Creative Modes, Cine 3, HLG2, ITU709 ISO 2000 = S-Cinetone, Cine 4, HLG, HLG3 ISO 12800 = ITU 709(800%), Slog2, Slog3

[@livetodaydietomorrowltdt2405]

KZbin Tech you think A7SIII is better in low light then A7IV

[@HakTaurus]

When i see tamron vs Sony lens i stop watching

[@LeeZavitz]

Makes zero difference for this test

[@HakTaurus]

@@LeeZavitz i dont think so

[@r_gunwerfete5066]

A7 SIII best

[@kapilesh14]

To be extremely honest right now the only three reasons to get a7Siii is the rolling shutter performance, full frame 4k 60/120 and raw upload on ninja. a7IV is better in almost every other area.

[@Jaimesebe]

And also if you are mostly a video shooter for the hybrid shooters like me, I would love to get the A7SIII but is far more expensive and not as good for pictures as the A7IV. At the end it will come to suit personal needs.Salutes

[@kapilesh14]

@@Jaimesebe I agree, it has come to a point where I am seriously questioning my decision to own a7Siii.

[@Jaimesebe]

@@kapilesh14 It ain't easy.Although, if you don't do much of photography go and get it cos' you will be able to shoot 4K60 4k120. I can't do that with my newly A7IV for video but then again I do a lot of photography too so I'm ok with that.Hope that helps.Salutes!!!

[@richardshaw7449]

Full frame 4k 60/120 and rolling shutter are pretty big advantages to the A7SIII. Stills will be better on the A7IV, although the viewfinder is way better on the A7SIII.

[@Jaimesebe]

@@richardshaw7449 100%

[@stevesvanderpool8653]

I don't need a bigger screen. I've got a Samsung ⭐⭐⭐⭐