The Sony didn’t have as much grain in the iso test but it seemed to be smoothing out the noise and didn’t look sharp because of it
@АндрейПоручаев2 жыл бұрын
У sony плохой jpeg, тут понятно, но такие тесты надо было однозначно проводить с RAW файлом, очень странное сравнение.
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
Yes, that did seem to be the case. Thanks for your comment!
@АндрейПоручаев2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSlantedLens мне так не кажется, тут наверное во всех тестах был использован jpeg фаил у Sony... Я хорошо знаю модель A7R IV и знаю как там выглядит jpeg и RAW и сам лично сравнивал Canon R5 (друга) и Sony 7R IV и при прочих равных у sony гораздо больше деталей и мелких текстур, если использовать хорошие объективы.
@sandb18672 жыл бұрын
I doubt the RAW conversion of the Sony was actually set to neutral for smoothing/sharper setting.
@Elemino Жыл бұрын
Exactly how I felt. I prefer the grain over the smoothing I was seeing. At least the Canon was still sharp.
@robertsaca3512 Жыл бұрын
1:02 16mp isn't "almost half of 24" it's over half.
@souvenirshutterphotography4037 Жыл бұрын
9:20 why you looking at grains much instead of looking at picture quality and overall details and sharpness at iso 6400 grains are noise which can be fixed in post but can you bring back details and sharpness in post?
@TheSlantedLens Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice.
@mohamedh0786 Жыл бұрын
I have shot canon for the last 15 years, Got R5, Love every feature of the brand from having many glass choices and picture quality, I have missed some moments because of Autofocus, Finally pulled the trigger and bought the Sony a7R V, build quality is OK, The Auto Focus is Spot on. I got 24-70 and 85MM E mount, I will be selling my R5 and all my Glass , Just need to get more glass for the sony
@TheSlantedLens Жыл бұрын
That is a big change up. And yes, the Sony autofocus is superior. Good luck with your new purchase!
@interfaceonly Жыл бұрын
Are you still selling the R5 with all the glass? If so, I may be interested
@mohamedh0786 Жыл бұрын
I sold all my glasses on ebay Sorry !@@interfaceonly
@mohamedh07868 ай бұрын
@ValentinoLuggen Zero Regrets, Dumped all my Canon on ebay, yes took a loss, But I love My A7RV, got 16-35 GM Glass also, Sony is the Auto Focus KING!
@sertocd3 ай бұрын
best feature for Canon R5 is that you can use as a toaster while recording 8K.
@Davitor12 жыл бұрын
The Canon has 4 different case scenarios each with 4 levels of tracking sensitivity, acceleration/deceleration for example. Which settings did you have?
@RunGSD2 жыл бұрын
Yup, one specifically designed to ignore objects that come in front of what you’re tracking
@Davitor12 жыл бұрын
@@RunGSD yes and if not set correctly any comparison is meaningless.
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
Good points. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
@paulfresh11 ай бұрын
yea a lot of people don't seem to know that.. you have to go in and really dial all the AF settings on r5.. once dialed in its amazing
@chiokehart-kelly34812 жыл бұрын
1st off...Salute to you for constantly doing these especially since people can fanboy out about their favorite brand. 2nd... great work, it is greatly appriciated.
@BrianIrwin2 жыл бұрын
Yup 100%, I picked up my a7RV a couple of days ago and am waiting for camera raw to catchup, I am sure when the R5 Mk 2 comes out, it will be better than the A7RV and that is great for all of us :)
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I appreciate your nice feedback!
@bandittriples2 жыл бұрын
Wow surprised at your findings on the R5 for focus! I feel like I can’t even MAKE it miss. So much so that I look at my client most of the time and don’t look I’m the viewfinder or screen when I’m in studio. R5 just never misses the eye. I also shoot A7IV which is very good but still not Canon good.
@michalsierzchula2 жыл бұрын
When you go to AF settings and set it to hunt for focus anytime it can't see the subject, it will fail this test most of the time ;)
@EsotericNY2 жыл бұрын
Yeah - I switched from Nikon to Canon (after 20 years) for better focus and haven't looked back. Wonder what Michel's focus mode was on, e.g, Person vs Animal vs off. Capture One and DxO's PL handle color space for Canons much better than LR, as well. In fact, I rarely use LR anymore.
@mattstolzman2 жыл бұрын
And I'm still using single point.
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
The problem causing the Canon to miss was the walking behind the tree. And a lot of cameras miss at that point. This new Sony technology is changing that.
@Sergei__v2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSlantedLens AF scenarios in Canon R5/R6 have a setting for that. Subjects entering the frame or holding on to the same subject even if its obscured by an object. Try moving the slides in AF Scenario 2 or 3.
@yamahass669 ай бұрын
9:21 what are these vertical lines on sony?
@TheSlantedLens9 ай бұрын
That is banding that starts to happen with higher ISO numbers. You see it in both images.
@lpark8 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic review thanks 🙏 concise, fast paced and hits all the points that matter most.
@TheSlantedLens Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it Thanks for your comment!
@ShipLeague2 жыл бұрын
I went with the A7R5 just because of the autofocus but honestly the Canon images look much better to me. Even in the high ISO with the grain, it still looked like a better image and Canon was definitely sharper. Only thing I wish I knew the whole time was what the models actual skin tone was. Maybe you can tell us which one was closer to her skin tone? The Sony looked very magenta.
@denis58502 жыл бұрын
The Sony picture are not sharp at all wtf is wrong
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
Her skin tone actually falls in between the two. The Canon made her skin look kind of pasty yellow. The Sony was more magenta than her skin.
@Yupthereitism2 жыл бұрын
The Sony pictures look way better lol wtf
@eseparanoiac11 ай бұрын
I think the same, I'm thinking about buying the a7rv but after watching this video I think the Canon is a great option. Contrary to what the author of the video says, in most images I see more sharpness in the Canon as in the ISO test, at low ISOs I still see the Canon better in this review even though the author says otherwise. I'm going to rethink the team change.
@blackimp49872 ай бұрын
I hardly believe a girl with probably Asian heritage can have that magenta complexion and traditionally Canon has always made sensors with warmer tones than Nikon, for instance. So I think that Sony is completely unbalanced
@Abakaschi7 ай бұрын
How does the IBIS compare from these 2 cameras? How reliable can you handhold shots at 35mm focal length?? 1sec? 2sec?
@UberDurable2 жыл бұрын
The title says Sony a7R IV, I think you mean Sony a7R V
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
Yes, that is what we meant. Fixed the typo!
@davidromano24212 жыл бұрын
That was pretty shocked at the color difference between the two cameras. Sony much warmer. I just bought the Sony and it hasn't arrived yet but I'm upgrading from the A7rII, so I'm looking forward to being blown away by the A7rv
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
Hope you love your new purchase!
@holdmyown322 жыл бұрын
I was pleasantly surprised myself at the difference, I am a sony a7riv user, definitely looking to upgrade sometime in the near future.
@jorgeromano4976 Жыл бұрын
Nice last name
@redis82982 жыл бұрын
you should change the af on the canon menu to case 2 (ignoring possible obstacles), that would do the trick in my opinion, so the af it would be stickier
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
Good to know. Thanks for your comment.
@stevenwaldstein22492 жыл бұрын
I shoot both Canon and Sony and planned to get the new A7RV to replace my A7RIV and A7IV but also have an EOS R5 and I’m wondering if I should just save $3900 and wait until mid 2023 when Canon releases the R5 II. Need to make a decision to reduce the number of RF or FE lenses I own. Thank you for the video.
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
It depends on what you do. It is hard to keep up with both systems. Thanks for your comment.
@interfaceonly Жыл бұрын
Are you selling the EOS R5? If so, I may be interested in purchasing
@meryochoa2011 Жыл бұрын
best explanation ever! great video!!!
@TheSlantedLens Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for your comment!
@LeaMotion2 жыл бұрын
Been a Canon user for more than 8 years, last year I decided to go with the Sony A7SIII, its a great camera, but my main issue was the colors! Canon colors are hard to match and on th Sony it does not look as good unless you shoot Slog 3 and apply LUT to match but lots of extra work, also the menu navigation is not as good as the Canon. Decided to sell it after 1 year of using it, I own the R5 now and never been so happy with a Camera! Canon for life! 😀
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
Great to hear about your journey trying out both cameras. For some reason I am not loving the Canon color lately. It used to be my favorite.
@mbismbismb2 жыл бұрын
Wrong decision to go with sony hahahaa
@Yupthereitism2 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t stand the canon r5 colors. I sold it for Nikon, Nikons colors are just better
@fotografmorteneriksen Жыл бұрын
Now the owner of the a7r V..and what I have noticed is that the camera is way better at focusing in low light. Probably the greatest camera I have ever owned.
@TheSlantedLens Жыл бұрын
Great to hear. Thanks for sharing your experience!
@germancreatives882 жыл бұрын
Why the xh2 has 16 bit depth like gfx100 and this too only 14
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
That is a good question. Something to check with Sony and Canon.
@VolkswagenNut1969 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the interesting comparisons….I’ve been a Sony shooter for years, but in your ISO comparison the Canon images were much, much more pleasant IMHO. Nicer, cleaner colors, better detail and smoother transitions between light and dark. The Sony images were dark and harsh by comparison with ugly colors. I love many things about the Sony cameras but the image files have always been on the dark side for me, and the colors have always needed lots of post processing. I’ve thought about moving back to Canon for those reasons and honestly this comparison makes me want to even more. ;)
@TheSlantedLens Жыл бұрын
I agree that the Sony is generally a little darker and the color is not as pleasing. I find the post processing works pretty well. Canon does tend to be more yellowish, so if you don't like that look than other brands might work better. Sony is cooler, Panasonic and Fujifilm have nice rich colors. And Nikon has great color as well!
@VolkswagenNut1969 Жыл бұрын
@@TheSlantedLens Thank you for that, agreed! 😉 Never tried Panasonic, but always loved Fujifilm colors right out of the camera. If they had ever offered a full frame camera I probably would have been a Fujifilm fanboy hands down. 😊
@Ad-eq3cu2 жыл бұрын
FYI, your video title says a7R IV but you test the A7R V
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the heads up on that. Just fixed it!
@Mac_Choudhry6 ай бұрын
What AF mode was the Canon R5 in when you did the AF test? Just curious.
@thomasomectin90562 жыл бұрын
Yeah. The whole time I was watching this I kept thinking this sounds like a Sony promotion. I’ve had my R5 for a year now and my results are nothing close to the results this guy is going on about. Like you would have to force the camera to do those things that make it less than the Sony in this review.
@wellwhatthen101012 жыл бұрын
He is a sony fanboy i never have trusted this fella
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
I have actually always been more partial to Canon but lately Sony has been tempting me.
@j16m022 жыл бұрын
@@wellwhatthen10101 So, one solution is to not watch his videos if it upsets you so much.
@mbismbismb2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha he always favours the toy camera like sony than pro
@michalsierzchula2 жыл бұрын
A7R5 is a great camera, can't deny it, but it's set to work with this type of use out of the box, while canon will not work so well without setting af for the use you plan to do. It's set universal, and when set properly this tree test would be 100% hit, but when set opposite, you will struggle to have any good results.
@adhi_atma2 жыл бұрын
WEIRD. if canon AF fail many times why dont you show us the pictures when it fails. instead you showed to us when its succees ?. again in hi iso test it seems you forgot to make sure both of cameras using same comparable high iso noise reduction settings. canon looks noisier but give sharper & better detail while sony gives cleaner although with less detail.
@dsp2go2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I felt like in the ISO test, the Canon looks noticabely better in terms of the details and colors. Yes it has more noise, but it seems like a better image overall. Also, the color is way better in the Canon too... I also felt that in Sony A7RV's color at 5:26 looks really unnatural, as in it's quite red. (I may be more used to iPhone like neutral color tone).
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The Canon had more noise, the Sony had more banding. Color is a personal choice. Good things to consider!
@CristoforoBonissone10 ай бұрын
It's a shame that there is no thorough examination of the RAW files that are generated by these two sensors, as on DPReview.
@TheSlantedLens9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion!
@darpandigitel7339 Жыл бұрын
Sir, which camera should be used in studio for full photo, close up, for portrait, for studio exposing and which lens should be used along with it?
@TheSlantedLens Жыл бұрын
Either one of these would be great for studio portrait shoots!
@abdallahuwk8033 ай бұрын
Which is better for photography Sony A7R V or Canon Eos R1?
@SinaFarhat2 жыл бұрын
Interesting! Thanks for the video!
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome. Thanks for watching!
@robertwilsoniii20489 ай бұрын
Which one has better color science?
@TheSlantedLens8 ай бұрын
Color science becomes a matter of personal taste. The Canon is a little warmer and the Sony is a little cooler.
@ro38432 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks for the unbiased input
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it worthwhile. Thanks for watching!
@kaskoPhoto Жыл бұрын
Is the vertical striping from artificial light flickering or phase detect array? (Higher iso)
@TheSlantedLens Жыл бұрын
Good question. We will check it out.
@stefanbecker95262 жыл бұрын
Frames per second with an electronic shutter are completely irrelevant because both cameras don't have a stacked sensor. That means all action type of photos will be horribly warped if you use an electronic shutter. That means you cannot really use it for action. It's a completely useless irrelevant number.
@EsotericNY2 жыл бұрын
...and image bit depth is lower. Electronic 1st curtain (at least on the Canon) is the "happy medium" to preserve the highest image bit depth possible and a fairly decent 12 fps.
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
@dragSD6662 жыл бұрын
not irrelevant since the sensor readout on the canon r5 its like 8 or 10 times faster than the sony a7rv.. so you can actually use eletronic shutter in the r5 which is not the same situation on the sony a7rv
@patrick.munich2 жыл бұрын
@@dragSD666 Yeah, I had never any problems with electronic shutter and sports with the R5. The only problem with the electronic shutter are flickering LED Lights. You need to have a really really fast moving ball (Baseball, Golf, Tennis) to see any "warping" and even then it is minimal.
@nickwilliams78672 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing you are a Sony shooter because that's true for Sony but as others have said not for canon. My mate shoots a lot of BIF with R5 in silent with no problems.
@esdrasbatistasl2 жыл бұрын
On the ISO test, Canon does have more noise, but maintains its image quality much more than Sony.
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
That is a good point. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
@markshirley012 жыл бұрын
I believe the auto white balance and metering are updated on.the A7R5. Many reviews have said the auto white balance is now useable for the first time.
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
Good to know. Thanks for sharing!!
@jaegerschtulmann2 жыл бұрын
true! the skin tones are finally nice! too bad the a7rV is significantly more expensive than the previous models!
@SilatShooter2 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison! Thank you! I switched from Canon to Sony a few years ago and am heavily invested in Sony mount lenses, so I have no interest in switching again or supplementing my Sony gear with Canon gear. The two brands are great and they push each other to get better and better. Clearly the A7rV has the upper hand now between these two except if you need the higher frame rate. I'm debating on picking up the A7rV, as I have come to prefer the rangefinder style bodies, and also really like the no-blackout viewfinders like in the A9 and A1 cameras. So debating whether to wait to see if 2023 brings me a body that clicks those boxes for me.
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
Great to hear about your experience. Good luck deciding which to buy next!
@Battlem0nk2 жыл бұрын
Think a9iii will be out in 2023
@erichramone78122 жыл бұрын
Your title has an ERROR IN IT!!! I wasn't going to watch it, because I thought why are they reviewing that older Sony camera? Shouldn't they be reviewing R version 5? But I decided to watch and low and behold you are reviewing the Sony RV
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting us. Typo error!
@Stego862 жыл бұрын
I don't understand how you can say that high ISO files are worse on Canon when they're WAY sharper, while Sony's files look badly processed in camera...
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
The Canon has much more pronounced noise.
@Stego862 жыл бұрын
@@TheSlantedLens Canon has a sharper image, with sharper noise, that you can reduce in post without affecting quality, meanwhile Sony is mushy and not sharp at all, and you can't fix any of that in post...
@robertsaca3512 Жыл бұрын
Were you using silent shutter for the sensitivity tests? It looks that way and that'll negatively affect IQ.
@dukeofurl999 Жыл бұрын
Around 1:30 in this, tech talk walked on my ears. Could you point to some explanations for the points? TY
@TheSlantedLens Жыл бұрын
The larger the bit depth the more information the video carries. 10 bit is more information than 8 bit. 4.2.2 gives more information than 4.2.0. Hope that helps a bit.
@Households12342 жыл бұрын
Your opening shot with the two of you in the garden setting was beautifully lit and exposed.
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! And thanks for watching!
@Jeo-What2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review especially on the AF test. I will wait until the A1 II release hopefully next year to determine which direction to go.
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a good decision!
@Tattooed-bs4cm Жыл бұрын
I switched from Canon to Sony because of the better low light and ISO values. But when I look at the sharper photos from the R5, I really wonder if I should switch back to Canon. If I didn't have the expensive Sony lenses, I would even do that. Sorry Sony.....you can do that better!!
@TheSlantedLens Жыл бұрын
It is hard to decide with system to stick with. Good luck!
@austinjt4264 Жыл бұрын
Hi, I have a question, can anyone help? I want Sony a7R V but I want len that have 67mm, is it possible? Because I used Xiaomi 67mm... and stupid of me, I bought about 60 different types of Lens that is 67mm, turned out, 95% of them don't work with Xiaomi Camera at all. Only a few of CLP or CPL do works... the rest of Lens such as UV or Prims or IR Lens don't works at all. I'm looking to shooting some video for my DIY Project, so I don't need any fancy ones up to 77mm or to 105mm... and I think 67mm is enough for me. But I don't know how to get one. I'm 101% NEW TO CAMERA! I was going for EOS-R5 but my brother said if I focus on Video, I should get Sony a7R V instead because it has better AI focus when shooting any fast moving objects. I found this Sony FE 35mm F1.4 GM (SEL35F14GM) on Amazon. Not sure if the mount fit, can anyone tell?
@TheSlantedLens Жыл бұрын
If you are wanting to do video mostly I would not choose the Sony a7R V. You might be happier with the Canor R6 or the Sony a7 IV.
@greghughes19512 жыл бұрын
Could you take a moment and look back at your previous review of the canon r5 vs the Sony riv . You had a different opinion of the auto focus at that time when it came to the canon r5 , I believe you stated it missed focus 1 out 10 not sure if the variables were the same and had a slight edge over Sony . What lens were you using for this time for each camera in case I missed it .
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
I believe the difference was having her walk behind the tree. That proved to be difficult with the Canon.
@Davitor12 жыл бұрын
@@TheSlantedLens Canon has 4 different case scenarios each with 4 levels of tracking sensitivity, acceleration/deceleration. This feature is use when objects come in front of the subject you’re tracking.
@RichAesthetic Жыл бұрын
why the r5 not the r5c for the comparison?
@TheSlantedLens Жыл бұрын
That would be another good comparison!
@manrex52387 ай бұрын
The canon color science is unmatched even grater that the amazing Sony,it tend to represent the actual color of everything much better.
@williamsolis1 Жыл бұрын
Definitely a follow up review with the raw pics would be great
@TheSlantedLens Жыл бұрын
We just posted it this morning: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5WTgomeeryDe7c
@mikeshafer Жыл бұрын
Great video. I'm debating A7RV vs Canon R5, it's a really close comparison but I think the Sony wins out with higher MP, better autofocus, and the flip-out screen. I'll be doing lots of portraits and landscape, so I don't care about sports or anything super fast.
@TheSlantedLens Жыл бұрын
Tough decision. Good luck with your new purchase!
@eduvivan2562 Жыл бұрын
Is sony implementing this AI autofocus in older models like the A7iv and A7siii or is it a hardware feature?
@TheSlantedLens Жыл бұрын
I asked that question about the A1 and the answer was that it is hardware so can't be updated with a firm wear update.
@purnastudiosaripalli6574 Жыл бұрын
Canon r5 or Sony a7r5 which is better
@TheSlantedLens Жыл бұрын
Which one do you think is better?
@rovleculina82372 жыл бұрын
Just wow, look at that stuff at 9:15 and 9:22 Ladies and gentleman, this is a perfect example why it's not all about pixels, both cameras suck at high ISO, terrible dynamic range, awful color degradation, destructive banding and artefacts all over the place, Sony looks mushy with no detail retention, banding all over her face, just terrible image quality from both sensors. And this is just at ISO 6400, embarrassing for both companies. For some reason, when talking about image quality, everybody means just pixels but forgets to take into account dynamic range throughout high ISO range, color depth throughout high ISO range, detail retention, etc. Sensor performance measured at base ISO looks great but that's just not realistic and doesn't translate into real world usage. This is why I sold my R5, as a wildlife photographer, I more often than not have to shoot with very high ISO settings, and I was quite disappointed with it's low light performance. This is why I still appreciate lower MP sensors for low light photography.
@amhtxc29602 жыл бұрын
Spot on comment. Nowdays lower MP does not correlate with better high-ISO performance (or the other way around) any more, but these cameras suck big time in this department. I would take better ISO performance and dynamic range over millions of frames per second and super-sticky autofocus any day.
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
Some great things to think about. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
@rovleculina82372 жыл бұрын
@@amhtxc2960 Couldn't agree more.
@asystematicgyan Жыл бұрын
Every time you increased iso, may be you missed the details on R5.. Was that Sony Promotion?
@TheSlantedLens Жыл бұрын
We are not sponsored by any camera company. You are just showing you what we see.
@Elvis_Pond5 Жыл бұрын
Great video 👍 A better comparison would be between the New Sony R5 and the New Canon R5 ii
@TheSlantedLens Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a good plan. Thanks for your comment!
@fotografmorteneriksen2 жыл бұрын
I owned an a7r IV and the colors was, eeh..well, not that good in some cases. The worst part, having moire in the clients clothes. Some assignments I nearly had to dump most of the images. I have bought an r5 now as I like the skin colors more. The A7r V seems to be a nice camera, though.
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience!
@CryptoJones Жыл бұрын
Interesting comparison. I am a Canon shooter looking at adding a Sony body with the Simga adapter for my EF lenses.
@TheSlantedLens Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a good plan!
@TheChadWork2001 Жыл бұрын
Dude where are you getting these girls? They are knock outs!
@TheSlantedLens Жыл бұрын
That is the benefit of living in Los Angeles surrounded by lots of good talent!
@geleoker93569 ай бұрын
Are there Raw example files? Would be super duper.
@TheSlantedLens9 ай бұрын
Those are not available. Thanks for checking!
@lorenistavaresfilm4 ай бұрын
En cuanto a fotografia, cual creen que es superior, CANON O SONY? LOS LEO .... 😃
@TheSlantedLens4 ай бұрын
That is an ongoing debate. You need to pick the one you are comfortable working with.
@tomhalbouty36532 жыл бұрын
Interesting review. My Canon R5 renders skin tones that are warmer (less green, more red, then the Sony A7r4, the reverse of this comparison. I haven't compared the images to an A7R5. I'm glad Sony has improved the autofocus from the A7r4 as the R5 autofocus was more accurate and stickier than the Sony r4, for me. I haven't heard of many complaints on the R5's focus capability before. I wonder if there are camera to camera sample differences within a given manufacturer? Thanks for the comparison. These day, I see little reason to jump between manufacturers anymore once you have a stockpile of lenses.
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
Very true. When you invest in good lenses it doesn't make sense to switch.
@bandittriples Жыл бұрын
Same, love my A74 for usability (zebra and metering from focus spot, don’t know why Canon can’t do this) but prefer the more magenta in skin tones from Canon
@jaywbus Жыл бұрын
Canon colors imho are more accurate to true life. and ergo are way better in my (bigger) hands.
@nicolacurry15402 жыл бұрын
I think it’s all very close, I think it’s down to personal preference, generally speaking Sonys are much better in low light, especially the alpha s series, and canon are much better with colour and until the last two years, auto focus. Sony has improved that area now. I’m a Sony user because I’m a videographer but did look into the r5 if it wasn’t for it’s overheating issues I probably would have chosen it.
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
Great points. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
@ONGUNN2 жыл бұрын
they solved overheat problems with 1.6.0 firmware update
@NT_1 Жыл бұрын
Isn't the a7s3 the best video camera one can get
@arthurlbn Жыл бұрын
I cant understand. You said on video that image from Canon is wrost on high iso but cleary the sony was wrost. I cant understand that.
@TheSlantedLens Жыл бұрын
Not sure what you are looking it at on. Go with what you feel you see.
@arthurlbn Жыл бұрын
@TheSlantedLens Yeah. I'm just saying that in the video the sony image in high iso was wrose. Sorry, I made some writing mistakes in English because I'm Brazilian and English is not my native language
@MrTheotokos2 ай бұрын
I am considering jumping from Fuji to either Sony or Canon. But in these images the colors of the Sony looks awful! Her skin is pink. Can you say whether this is also true in the raw files? Or is it just in the video? Br Thomas
@TheSlantedLensАй бұрын
Canon tends to have a warmer yellower cast to skin. Sony tends to have cooler skin tones.
@donaldmcvee9371 Жыл бұрын
Comparisons of cameras that are used with default settings are often invalid. The Canon R5 has adjustments in the menu to change the "stickiness" of the autofocus when shooting moving subjects. If you don't know this or don't make the correct adjustments in the menu you can get results like you got. It surprises me that you use a scenario to test autofocus that no other camera has passed. As to the noise test, it was pretty obvious to me that the Sony in camera noise suppression was blurring the image. Looking at the model's forehead in those close ups made it pretty obvious. Based on those two observations I would consider your evaluation to be invalid.
@TheSlantedLens Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your candid response.
@AllCarsUnited Жыл бұрын
The fact that Sony was able to do something where other cameras couldn't should definitely add some validity to the review. Seems like you're letting a bias not appropriate this through review.
@youngonestudio10 ай бұрын
Why has the color science flipped in this experiment? I think you may have your pics reversed
@andyqbui2 жыл бұрын
It's almost unfair to compare these two since the Canon is a couple of years older, but with that said, the Sony A7R V is BEAST!
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
Canon didn't have another camera in this category that is newer.
@alsoknownasMaSTeR Жыл бұрын
It's weird that most reviewers claim that Canon's AF is far superior and your test shows the opposite. I think you did not set the camera properly. I wish you had some some low light AF test as it's pretty important for me. I'm buying one of these 2 and retiring my 5dMIII. I find this a pretty tough decision
@TheSlantedLens Жыл бұрын
It is a hard decision. Your lens collection is something to consider. Thanks for your comment!
@hazarjdm786hazar Жыл бұрын
Great Comparison! I am a Sony fan Boy! I have used Canons including the R5, I find easy for me to Navigate the menus on the sony. The Sony Autofocus is Top Notch
@TheSlantedLens Жыл бұрын
Totally agree! Thanks for sharing you opinion!
@vancouverbluesea2 жыл бұрын
I quite like the tests that you do and I know you moved to sony many years ago and you are very happy with the system. What is your take on CFExpress type A used on the sony? It almost feels like their "Memory Stick" - very proprietary and not well accepted. Is this the item that may push people away from the otherwise fantastic system?
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
I don't think it will push people away. I personally think the type A cards are too small, too easy to lose.
@vancouverbluesea2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSlantedLens a big concern (for me) is price and availability. Sony have mad a fantastic choice to open the E mount (and this attracts users who are interested to switch. At the same time - the memory card format does rise concerns and does push people away.
@gregorynp Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@TheSlantedLens Жыл бұрын
You are welcome! Thanks for watching!
@gregorynp Жыл бұрын
@@TheSlantedLens Ordered a A7R V
@SeattleNoname6 ай бұрын
Canon images have natural colors and they are sharper.
@TheSlantedLens6 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your observation!
@jakaufma19332 жыл бұрын
Good video, but the Canon R5 is over 2 years old so it is fair to compare or wait until we get R5 MK ii and then compare. But good video
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, we wished that Canon had a newer version. I would guess that is coming soon.
@AllCarsUnited Жыл бұрын
Why do people always talk about being fair? They are comparing two products that are currently available to purchase as a tool
@24_meamu Жыл бұрын
I am about to buy a canon R5 .. but now I am confused... I always find canon more user-friendly. I am switching from m50 to R5 now.! I mainly work in stock photography.
@TheSlantedLens Жыл бұрын
It is a hard decision. If you already have Canon glass that is a great way to go.
@24_meamu Жыл бұрын
@@TheSlantedLens tnx for your response
@driftareal5158 Жыл бұрын
Get the r5 from canon this review is bass more to sway people to Sony not homes at all I sold my canon 5dMK4 to get the a7r5 and I’ve since send it back and replaced it with the canon R5c I still have my a7riv which I’m much more happy with and to give you my honest and someone who shoots both systems on the consistent basis the SONY A7RV IS THE SAME CAMERA AS THE A7RIV WITHOUT THE IA FOCUSING CAPABILITIES SO MY ADVICE TO YOU WILL BE TO TEST OUT BOTH FOR YOURSELF AND MAKE YOUR DECISION BASED ON YOU LIKE AND EXPERIENCE
@24_meamu Жыл бұрын
hey tnx for your response I got R5 Already Now ..its been 4 months now and I am happy with my purchase.!!!@@driftareal5158
@donwhite3322 жыл бұрын
Great review. I have the A1 and A7R4 with a pre order for the 7R5. The thing I disliked about the 7R4 was that it quickly bogged down writing images and showing 100% views, making it sluggish for even landscape. Hoping that the 7R5 will be better with that.
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience. Hope you love your new purchase!
@Battlem0nk2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't the A7R V uses the same dual BIONZ XR processor as the A1? So I'm assuming they will be just as fast?
@holdmyown322 жыл бұрын
I’m having the same problem with it while tethered, still love it though.
@RodrigoPolo2 жыл бұрын
Nice Sony ad.
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
Just telling it like it is. We were hoping Canon would have been better.
@RodrigoPolo2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSlantedLens Not a fan of any brand, but dude, comparing a new camera to an old camera? Really? if it was backwards I would say "Nice Canon ad", just saying.
@Yupthereitism2 жыл бұрын
@@RodrigoPolo accept it and move on
@qh_ent2 жыл бұрын
I was literally just looking at both of these cameras haha I was leaning on the Canon r5 but I think I’m gonna lean to the Sony!! Thank you for this!!
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome. Good luck with your purchase!
@joaodasilva8008 Жыл бұрын
In some reviews say that Canon R5 it is good for Weddings in Churches (low lights and very dark places to take photos) specially some Pastors and Priests are very picky with flash cameras and photographers but the other thing about Canon it is that the option in lenses or glases (specially now) it is very limited, no Tamron or other options for Canon Cameras
@TheSlantedLens Жыл бұрын
Yes, the third lens issue is not great.
@bestcameralens2 жыл бұрын
I think you mean A7RV vs R5.
@jamesmonahan94082 жыл бұрын
I had to do a double take. Yep, they mean the A7R5 not the 4.
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for pointing that out. Just fixed the title.
@sandb18672 жыл бұрын
4:58 The Sony only has 16% more linear resolution, which is not enough to really see a big difference in detail. You'd really have to double the resolution to make a huge difference and even then, some of that benefit would be offset by diffraction and noise.
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! Keep on clickin!
@mrdamiansingh2 жыл бұрын
hope you had 1.60 firmware on the R5
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
I believe it had the most updated firmware.
@andrewjones20452 жыл бұрын
This is the only review I’ve seen that has found any issue with the canon auto focus. And that includes turning subjects and subjects that leave and re-enter the frame. I guess the only way to know is to hire and shoot them yourself. Too many kick backs taint open honest reviews imo☹️
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
Just sharing our experience. Thanks for watching!
@jobinsarts1791 Жыл бұрын
In higher ISO shots, the canon still has details but Sony images looks washed out like a digitally zoomed picture on a phone camera. So later while editing you have more room to play with the canon image. Reduce 😊light and color noise and the picture will look good with a bit sharpness added.
@TheSlantedLens Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your comment!
@ThreeCeeProductions2 жыл бұрын
I could hardly listen to this video while watching the pics. The most important thing to me is image quality. Especially on people of color. It will mean you have to color correct every person with the Sony. The skin tones from the Sony disqualify it for me. The correction for one part changes the entire look of the photo. Humans are extremely triggered when skin tones are off. It’s not just a preference but subliminal reaction to your photos if the skin tones are off.
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
We try to show the color as it comes out of the camera so people can judge it by how they will like it and if they can color correct it.
@asystematicgyan Жыл бұрын
Though it(SONY)has more megapixels, isn’t it supposed to provide more details??? And if it doesn’t . That means it doesn’t judge it’s value.
@TheSlantedLens Жыл бұрын
The Sony should have more detail. Thanks for your comment.
@nikolai_art2 жыл бұрын
Sony imaging edge does NOT give you any kind of good raw demosaicing for the A7RV raws right now. They only do a quick fix for every new camera, and the quality will be a bit better in a couple months. However it will never reach the quality that Capture One gets out of the Sony Raws. Capture One already supports the A7RV raws, and you could have used the free express version to develop your raws. That you didn't do that means that your whole "image quality" segment does not show anything close to the real quality of the A7RV files, which are a huge step up over the A7RIV, and miles ahead of the mushy, noise reduction baked into raws, stuff you get from a Canon R5.
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
@nikolai_art2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSlantedLens sorry for being a bit polemic about the Canon R5. It's also a good camera, and I was mostly reacting to some other comments here (that still regurgitate the old "color science" myths, as if it was 2014). I respect that you guys reply to comments here so fast. Check it out yourself. Use the free express version of Capture One and compare the demosaiced files. Imaging edge is miles behind at this time.
@denis58502 жыл бұрын
The file of the a7rv are so bad compared of the canon
@nikolai_art2 жыл бұрын
@@denis5850 in reality, the files of the A7RV are much better. I know it’s mostly Canon bros who watch this channel, but that’s an American/ UK thing mostly. The rest of the world is not on that Canikon DSLR trip you guys are still on, like it was 2012. In blind Test a majority of people prefers Sony colors over Canon. „Color science“ is just something that Canon marketing in the US desperately clings to.
@denis58502 жыл бұрын
@@nikolai_art I'm a Sony and Fuji guy but wtf the r5 is so sharp
@shinc9992 жыл бұрын
Canon grain looked better to me at the higher iso and I wonder if you are adjusting auto focus for specific shot with r5.. other then that Sony looked pretty good
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and thanks for watching!
@sammyh9542 Жыл бұрын
I use the canon r6 and I am not happy with the AF in video.
@TheSlantedLens Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience with the Canon!
@UberDurable2 жыл бұрын
I hear Canon R5 II is coming soon, which has 61MP.
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
Wow, that is super exciting! Can't wait to test it!
@DonaldHawk2 жыл бұрын
Lens options for Sony are much better.
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
There are a lot more options! Thanks for watching!
@AlbertKel2 жыл бұрын
Are you drunk? Not possible to miss the autofocus on the R5. You also forgot to mention that the Sony is instantly destroyed in heavy rain.
@Angelo_Paduraru2 жыл бұрын
This guy lying allot in these videos
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
Take them out and test for yourself. We are telling you the results we found.
@marleenvandam69312 жыл бұрын
I will buy a Fuji Thanks 😊
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
The Fujifilm cameras do have great color!
@norseatheart1086 Жыл бұрын
Yes Canon has more noise at 3200 and up. But it is also a LOT sharper and detailed. The Sony files are just a mushy mess. I'd rather have the R5 file. A litte NR would do wonders but the atroucious Sony file can't be saved since the detail is lost already.
@TheSlantedLens Жыл бұрын
Good points. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
@prosunsport12 жыл бұрын
The Sony Money truck is backing up .
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
The prices aren't much different from each other.
@HarmonicGrunt Жыл бұрын
I Switched Years ago To Sony.....Best Thing I Ever Did! Now own a7R MkV.👍🏻
@TheSlantedLens Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I love mine as well. Great camera!
@SeattleNoname6 ай бұрын
she has a ring hanging from her nose. I have seen those rings on bulls. How does she wipe her nose? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@TheSlantedLens6 ай бұрын
I have wondered the same thing. Hope you learned some good stuff!
@thomaslopez24272 жыл бұрын
I think comparing the low light performance is okay but these cameras are more than likely going to be used for portraits and maybe outdoor sports or with a flash. I primarily shoot sports and I would not use 61mp shooting indoor sports the way the lighting is inside these gymnasiums. I use the Canon R6ii and it performs very well in low light sports shooting…I was very impressed. The Sony focusing system on this camera is incredible though 👍🏼
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
Great to hear your thoughts. Yes, the R6 II is great for sports!
@michalsierzchula2 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention that sony gets 10fps only in lossy compressed raw, while up to 6 in loseless. Also it has 1/10 readout speed when on ES, while R5 has usable 1/60. Canon uses CF express that can go 1.7GB/s, when using single card write, and lossless compressed, you can shoot 12fps continuously to fill the card, and probably 20fps too. I can't make R5 miss when subjects turn around or run behind something for a moment, but I have set the AF to be aware of sport scenario. Set it different way or universal, and it will start to look for other objects to focus on, set it inproperly, and it will almost never pass your test. Lab tests show that R5 has better DR than any sony camera released prior A7R5, and as it uses the same sensor as A7R4, I think it still be the case. ISO - true, R5 has some noise going on, but at least it doesn't denoise RAW like sony does, look at your mooshy photos. I preffer to DxO Pure RAW 2 files from R5, than sharpen lost data from what you showed to us. Anyway, A7R5 is a great camera, has some downsides, ha some strenghts, it's a very good body if someone is loaded in E lenses. I would definietely enjoy using it and for sure produce somengreat results with one. Ending the comment, O think this comparison it worthless, it looks to be made just to say that sony is better, it doesn't show all the details that would tell the otherwise. You ommit everything that don't fit the narrative and show the results the way you want it to be seen, like avoiding showing noise it detail (because details were gone on sony).
@Yupthereitism2 жыл бұрын
The canon is outdated and not as good. Accept it
@michalsierzchula2 жыл бұрын
@@Yupthereitism it is older, but still a better option in general use if expensive RF lenses are not a problem. Problem with youtube comparisons is that they are biased depending on who does them.
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
We are not getting paid by either company and just trying to show our findings.
@bensslightnature2 жыл бұрын
so the sony applies a huge amount of denoise.. thats why the canon looks more noisy..
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
That is interesting. Thanks for sharing!
@helsfury Жыл бұрын
There is no noise reduction in a RAW file, Mr wannabe photographer
@eugenepetrenko1654 Жыл бұрын
I don’t know I will look at a different pictures the way I see this Sony has no focus it’s darker and me as a professional photographer I don’t know what are you talking about my man all the best with your commercial,Canon is performing way better than Sony. All the best with your financial future😂.
@TheSlantedLens Жыл бұрын
To each his own. Thanks for watching!
@bluedeskfan27542 жыл бұрын
Not much in it. Mostly comes down to which ever lens system you've already bought into.
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
That is a very important part of the decision process!
@stevepa9992 жыл бұрын
Again, you missed out on the opportunity to prove or disprove other reviewers who claim that in low light the Sony autofocus is not as good as Canon's I couldn't care less who is better, but it would be a shame if someone does not buy the Sony if this is not true (as you claim).
@TheSlantedLens2 жыл бұрын
Something to work on next time. Thanks for the input.