Sony BRAVIA 8 OLED Review - Lags Behind The Competition?

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@JopieHaargel
@JopieHaargel 4 ай бұрын
Me watching OLED screens on my cheap LED: "Man, these OLEDs look so much better than my cheap LED!"
@PigletCNC
@PigletCNC 4 ай бұрын
Now go watch them in a store. It's craaaazy I tell you.
@michael-4k4000
@michael-4k4000 4 ай бұрын
What about Peter Scarlett 🤔
@Valdaemonium
@Valdaemonium 4 ай бұрын
@@JopieHaargel I watch RTings reviews by a DCIP3 HDR10+ IPS LCD from a Poco X3 NFC. Though it's not OLED, I can tell, bro, I do see their vibrant colors and how TV is, or isn't, wide gamut color capable🙌
@tjf7101
@tjf7101 4 ай бұрын
So true 😂
@glbernini0
@glbernini0 4 ай бұрын
Who hasn't listened to speaker reviews & thought WOW WISH I HAD THOSE!
@Marc.Google
@Marc.Google 4 ай бұрын
I think more manufacturers should move to a 2-year release cycle. Focus more on big innovation over small, year-over-year improvements.
@steveludwig4200
@steveludwig4200 4 ай бұрын
No because they need to keep the "assembly" lines rolling just like cars. And there are PLENTY of TV buyers that are ignorant enough to buy the latest and greatest high collar TVs nearly EVERY year at jacked up prices.
@ExodusX13
@ExodusX13 2 ай бұрын
​@@steveludwig4200who the hell does that?
@mattrc77
@mattrc77 Ай бұрын
You're also paying for the Sony quality and speakers, processing, top-notch Google UI, and build quality
@felipeepilefelipe
@felipeepilefelipe Ай бұрын
Same quality that LG or Samsung. Sony is a mass production company, not a premium segment product.
@brokenSnake
@brokenSnake Ай бұрын
@@felipeepilefelipelg processing is garbage. Absolute trash
@brokenSnake
@brokenSnake Ай бұрын
@@felipeepilefelipelg is terrible at image processing. It’s trumotion is abysmal
@felipeepilefelipe
@felipeepilefelipe Ай бұрын
@@brokenSnake no, that’s not true, C4 and G4 has great image processing with a lot of settings and options.
@drunkhusband6257
@drunkhusband6257 Ай бұрын
@@felipeepilefelipe I disagree completely. Sony has far better image processing as well as far better speakers than Samsung or LG
@eduardoreal1056
@eduardoreal1056 Ай бұрын
I got the 65 in and happy with it. With these smart TV's you have to go through all these menus and settings it's just how it is now of days. I bought it when it dropped $1100 from the regular price. I was like a bit afraid if this OLED was going to be bright enough and I can say it is and colors are amazing. The sound coming just from the TV surprised me how good and loud it can get.
@robertreynolds2212
@robertreynolds2212 4 ай бұрын
The Bravia 8 is amazing. Purchased a 55' model a few weeks ago and have loved it for gaming and 4k movies. Definitely the best TV I've personally owned and really took time to research before purchasing. If you have a PS5 it's almost a no brainer.
@trewright1482
@trewright1482 4 ай бұрын
Uh no. The S90 is far superior as it is QD OLED
@Heliosvector
@Heliosvector 4 ай бұрын
​@@trewright1482has no Dolby vision though and it's a Samsung. If it breaks, they won't help you and the techs will cut your screen with a knife to try and avoid a warranty claim
@trewright1482
@trewright1482 4 ай бұрын
@@Heliosvector DV is so washed out and overrated. LG is bad for burn in. WOLED is woeful..
@MarkNOTW
@MarkNOTW 4 ай бұрын
@@trewright1482please stop the burn in hype
@salesfocus6270
@salesfocus6270 4 ай бұрын
​@@trewright1482Not to mention Samsung's build quality and lack of motion processing
@LDBetaGuy
@LDBetaGuy 4 ай бұрын
The remote for the Bravia 8 (RMF-TX820U) is not backlit as stated in this review. EDIT: If you purchase the Costco version, it does come with a backlit remote.
@randyduncan795
@randyduncan795 4 ай бұрын
I can't imagine purchasing anything but the Costco version. Something about that free 4 year warranty.
@tstump19
@tstump19 2 ай бұрын
whats the model number on the back lit remote? I bought an A95L and want this years backlit remote
@parall4x
@parall4x 2 ай бұрын
part number?
@Cam-s3s3o
@Cam-s3s3o 2 ай бұрын
@@randyduncan795why didn’t I think of this 😢
@maxwellgriffith
@maxwellgriffith Ай бұрын
@@parall4xRMF-TX910u, or you can get the 900u that came with the A95K
@007GoldenLion
@007GoldenLion 4 ай бұрын
How is a 30% increase in brightnes disapointing?
@christophejergales7852
@christophejergales7852 4 ай бұрын
Because at least 35% is required to make Abby happy.
@thomasconway95
@thomasconway95 4 ай бұрын
Because it's still behind the C4
@ryans413
@ryans413 4 ай бұрын
Because they get paid to say good thing about the most expensive sets. This tv comes in at roughly 2500 not cheap the Bravia 7 2200 and they said both these TVs were not worth buying but praised the Bravia 9 which is 4000. If you get the Bravia 8 or 7 you will be impressed.
@CBandicot
@CBandicot 4 ай бұрын
​@@thomasconway95 From pure picture quality,Lg is behind Sony.
@JD-ey8hw
@JD-ey8hw 4 ай бұрын
@@CBandicotthe video states literally the opposite with evidence to back it up.
@Skelejake
@Skelejake 4 ай бұрын
I originally thought this was gonna be a repeat of the A80L and I was impressed with its display honestly. When this goes on sale, it’s a straight upgrade for my x90K. I recognize the C4 is technically better, but I prefer Sony’s processing, and the operating system far above both LG and Samsung.
@kandoundou23
@kandoundou23 3 ай бұрын
I don’t know where you’re from, but it’s been on sale since yesterday here in Canada. I think I’m going to go buy it today.
@thomaszeh2577
@thomaszeh2577 3 ай бұрын
Is the processing that what makes the pictures sharper, more detailed than on the LG tvs?
@kandoundou23
@kandoundou23 3 ай бұрын
@@thomaszeh2577 The picture quality of a TV is influenced by several factors, including the processing technology used by the manufacturer. Sony TVs are known for their advanced picture processing technology, which enhances detail, contrast, and color accuracy. This processing helps to create a sharper and more realistic image. LG focuses heavily on perfect blacks and excellent contrast due to OLED technology, which provides a different but equally impressive picture quality. Whether a Sony TV or an LG TV looks better can depend on personal preference and what aspects of picture quality, like sharpness, color accuracy, or contrast you prioritize. BTW I bought the Bravia 8 last Saturday and love it.
@vmal04
@vmal04 2 күн бұрын
@@thomaszeh2577
@willsmith9233
@willsmith9233 4 ай бұрын
I have the Bravia 8 and I’m blown away by it, I had been in the market for a while, had the LG G3 but this Sony is hands down a clear winner. Whatever we are watching we find ourselves saying Wow, even at the commercials. Now I’m no TV expert but I’m really enjoying my Bravia 8 and I’m pleased with my purchase. Would I buy it again, Yes, Yes! Thanks for your opinion though.
@Jodez23
@Jodez23 4 ай бұрын
Bravia 8 is not better than G3. It's much dimmer so less impactful in image dimensionality.
@willsmith9233
@willsmith9233 4 ай бұрын
@@Jodez23 that’s your opinion and that’s ok. That’s why there are many TVs out there for each pair of eyes is different.
@СНСАЛЕКСАНДАРВУЧИЋ
@СНСАЛЕКСАНДАРВУЧИЋ 4 ай бұрын
Sony Bravia 8 used LG woled panels from C3 series
@salesfocus6270
@salesfocus6270 4 ай бұрын
​@@СНСАЛЕКСАНДАРВУЧИЋpanel isn't the full picture. Processing is the artist and that's hugely responsible for the picture.
@FamilyAvila-ix6pf
@FamilyAvila-ix6pf 4 ай бұрын
These people have no clue. The Bravia 8 is legit. I have the 77 and the game mode is where it’s at for sure. Brightness is beyond adequate. Only thing I wish they would have included are the other sensors my a90j has.
@rahulwadhawan8040
@rahulwadhawan8040 29 күн бұрын
I saw G4 and Bravia 8 together. My god bravia wins in image processing the blacks are so good i did youtbe 4k test in store. Bravia for the win.
@pilgrim985
@pilgrim985 Ай бұрын
Great review but I’m still not sure which TV is right for me. I only watch movies, no game playing and I don’t even watch sports, just movies. I’m thinking this Sony is right for me but if anyone is knowledgeable, let me know what you think. Thanks!
@KayJay940
@KayJay940 6 күн бұрын
For pure gaming I would go for a tcl or even hisense mini led. Thats if youre not trying to break the bank. I think mini > oled for games but oled > mini for 4k movies and shows
@Antoniob684
@Antoniob684 3 ай бұрын
Considering small price gap respect a80l, is there a reason to prefer nowdays a80l over bravia 8?
@myusrn
@myusrn 7 сағат бұрын
Doesn't the Sony have audio that plays through the screen and not or the back, so if you wall mount it you don't have to switch to a sound bar like you would with others [ lg, samsung, panasonic, hisense, tcl ]?
@sammy10001
@sammy10001 4 ай бұрын
The win here is the glossy screen. A80j, a80k, and a80l have all been semi-matte at the 55, 65, and 77 inch size. Only the 83" varient of the 80 series have been pure glossy. Its the reason i still preffered LG. A95L and A90j have always been glossy. Their top tier TV has always been glossy but theyve been handicapping the 80 series with that disgusting matte finish. Now the 80 series is worth buying again.
@falsehope5529
@falsehope5529 4 ай бұрын
@@sammy10001 do you know the A80K and A80L use the B3 oled screens not the EX display ones that the lg C3 had as why they had that semi gloss look and also weren’t as bright as the lgs
@redrocklead
@redrocklead 4 ай бұрын
My 77" a80l has a glossy screen.
@trewright1482
@trewright1482 4 ай бұрын
Sad as the QD OLED is far superior to LG. LG cope is real
@Heliosvector
@Heliosvector 4 ай бұрын
​@@trewright1482 QD oled unfortunately still use a triangular subpixel layout, so text fringing is horrible. I can't stand it
@tbecket4890
@tbecket4890 4 ай бұрын
@@falsehope5529That explains alot on my A80J
@tstump19
@tstump19 2 ай бұрын
whats the 2024 remote model number? I just bought an A95L but I want the backlit remote from the bravia 8
@Tsxtasy1
@Tsxtasy1 7 күн бұрын
Interesting that the benefit you see in adjustable feet is to fit a taller sound bar. When I saw that I thought about centering the screen at eyeball height on different entertainment centers
@kylebird5041
@kylebird5041 4 ай бұрын
Hi RTings, How do I calibrate for better colors?
@nickanthony4979
@nickanthony4979 4 ай бұрын
Hows burn in? I have 2017 LG Oled and significant burn in within a couple years. Really downplayed even in reviews. Would never buy another oled until I hear reliable longterm review that this problem has been resolved.
@jorge69696
@jorge69696 4 ай бұрын
Still the same, it just happens slower now.
@AntonioDiego95
@AntonioDiego95 4 ай бұрын
Try a LG G4. It has a 5 years screen warranty against burn-in
@Heliosvector
@Heliosvector 4 ай бұрын
Ever since 2019, oleds have used a new chemical in the subpixels. Burn in is severely reduced. Like 3 times better health than your version.
@GoranTosev8989
@GoranTosev8989 4 ай бұрын
My LG c1 has 17600 hours on it. No burn in yet. 3 to 4 hours a day mostly fifa gaming. 3 to 4 hours a day HDR Movies and Series. SDR brightness between 30 and 40 depending on input.
@laserspewpew_7175
@laserspewpew_7175 4 ай бұрын
OLED has improved a lot on the burn in issue. I have had a Sony Oled for 3 years and have no sign of burn in. I watch tv/movies 70% of time and gaming 30%. As long as you aren't watching news channels or channels with a banner for hours on end a day you will be fine.
@terriersforever23
@terriersforever23 2 ай бұрын
How do I know if my Sony OLED is displaying Dolby Vision and/or HDR,on Lg a logo appears at top right of screen,but I can’t see any pop up on Sony.
@GuppyPupples
@GuppyPupples 4 ай бұрын
Reviewers always make such a big deal out of having just two HDMI 2.1 ports when it only matters for people who have a PlayStation 5 AND an Xbox Series X AND a soundbar that doesn’t support HDMI 2.1 passthrough.
@bleachedwhale
@bleachedwhale 4 ай бұрын
It is a big deal for futureproofing, unless you plan on using an AVR or switcher with 2.1 support. It's just a dumb omission for such a premium product. Why WOULDN'T you want a TV at this price to have full flexibility?
@ericlarsen6209
@ericlarsen6209 4 ай бұрын
@@GuppyPupples Remember LG for gamers, Sony for movies
@DeesBees85
@DeesBees85 4 ай бұрын
HDMI 2.1 is only going to become more important in the years to come. In the coming years there will be more and more devices that support it. Sony charges a premium price, so they should be judged and compared to their competitors who all have 4 HDMI 2.1 ports.
@ericlarsen6209
@ericlarsen6209 4 ай бұрын
@@DeesBees85 only because of the gamers. I used my Nvidia on the 3 option 2.1 bought it to watch movies
@GuppyPupples
@GuppyPupples 4 ай бұрын
Not saying it isn’t a shortcoming at all. Just saying it’s a little weird to constantly flag it as a problem to people who mostly won’t be impacted by it in any way.
@russell22w
@russell22w 2 ай бұрын
Im probably buying this as the sound and bluetooth range is far superior to the C4 both are important to me. The C4's sound is mediorce plus its quieter than other sets ive looked at. I.know the Bluetooth wont be an issue to many, but i use high end Bluetooth headphones a lot for movies and gaming and their range smd stabikity are really poor. I went into my local dealers to try a variety of tvs out and the Sony was hsnds down superior in this regard. I.just wish the B8 was a little brighter
@Greg29
@Greg29 4 ай бұрын
Would this TV be good for a bedroom TV, in totally blacked out conditions?
@RTINGSdotcom
@RTINGSdotcom 4 ай бұрын
Hello! Help with personalized buying advice is something our experts offer only via our insider forums www.rtings.com/forums/insider-advice. We do have lots of self-service tools and recommendation articles that should be helpful as well though!
@john-y128
@john-y128 Ай бұрын
Sony is selling their 65" Bravia 8 OLED for $1700 ($1100 off thru 10/31/24), does that change your recommendation?
@carlosmiss6860
@carlosmiss6860 4 ай бұрын
What would you buy? A 65” bravia 8? Or a 65 a95k (2022 - qd-oled)
@RTINGSdotcom
@RTINGSdotcom 4 ай бұрын
Hello! Help with personalized buying advice is something our experts offer only via our insider forums www.rtings.com/forums/insider-advice. We do have lots of self-service tools and recommendation articles that should be helpful as well though!
@kuxii_youtube
@kuxii_youtube 4 ай бұрын
Lol how is this even a question QD-s ha e huge advatage, pure top emission is king a95k all day
@thomaszeh2577
@thomaszeh2577 3 ай бұрын
@@RTINGSdotcom​​⁠​​⁠ Well I saw a Bravia 8 next to one or two LG from 2024 with the same KZbin movie clip featuring Will Smith in a sniper scene and the LG tvs not only had totally unnatural colors, they also lacked sharpness, everything looked photoshopped, artificially smoothed, while the Bravia 8 showed natural colors and stellar sharpness. Smith‘s pores were visible on the Bravia 8, on the LGs it looked like makeup, no details visible. Is the AI in Sony tvs just better than that that gets used in LG tvs?
@vmal04
@vmal04 2 күн бұрын
@@thomaszeh2577
@hefrocks
@hefrocks 4 ай бұрын
i think i liked it and going to buy. now i have xh8096 and it is bright enough, and bravia 8 is brighter as i see in tests. and it has newer version of Google TV which i like. My TV now outputs much nicer picture then i saw on my friends Samsung and chinese TVs and Bravia 8 outputs even better picture and has even more vividness which is already enough. I don't know what more could I ask. And if it lacks something comparing to competition it's not visible to a naked eye. And in my region it costs a bit cheaper. I'm talking about 55 inch - maybe this is important. So I consider this is solid choice for me. I also have PS5 and no TV SET BOXES, no Rokus and other stuff so i need only 1 HDMI. My sound outputs via optical.
@ericmwitimwiti3963
@ericmwitimwiti3963 4 ай бұрын
is the frame same as a 80l? or it just look like led...
@TheBlueWanderer2000
@TheBlueWanderer2000 4 ай бұрын
Will it suffer from burn-in during gaming use in the long run? I might either buy this or the Bravia 7.
@MarkNOTW
@MarkNOTW 4 ай бұрын
Do you personally know anyone who has suffered burn in?
@TheBlueWanderer2000
@TheBlueWanderer2000 4 ай бұрын
@@MarkNOTW Not that I know of.
@EhNothing
@EhNothing 4 ай бұрын
Thanks rtings
@dperr338
@dperr338 4 ай бұрын
My grandma bought an LG Nanocell and it only lasted about 4 years and now randomly shuts itself off. I understand factory defects happen but based on my grandma’s experience I wouldn’t buy LG. I had a 8 year old Vizio that works fine. I just upgraded to Sony X90L about 6 months ago. Hopefully the Sony lasts.
@gerryortiz7276
@gerryortiz7276 3 ай бұрын
LG’s tend to overheat easier then the other brands
@kjjr9550
@kjjr9550 2 ай бұрын
its a known issue with lg oleds. And they are terrible with customer support. I will not be purchasing another oled from them. My sony that sat right beside it is still going strong while im trying to find a new board to see if it will fix the lg.
@NikhilKumarji963
@NikhilKumarji963 Ай бұрын
Sony bravia 8 picture quality are much better than g4 but i didn't like that it get very dark in some scenes... Why does it get very dark, does it had any thing to do with picture setting...?
@Blazecfc
@Blazecfc 3 ай бұрын
Sony needs a s90D type model next year. I would have bought that this year. It’s too bad.
@fawkkyutuu8851
@fawkkyutuu8851 4 ай бұрын
- 83 inch G4 or 77 A95L inch If you got big money. - S90D/S90C or Bravia 9 (only on BF sale) for good value+budget.
@trewright1482
@trewright1482 4 ай бұрын
77inch S90C is every bit the TV the A95L is and you have enough money the buy a Q990C/D soundbar for Q Symphony
@mbvx7
@mbvx7 3 ай бұрын
@@trewright1482 no its not
@Yoga_Tv_buying
@Yoga_Tv_buying 4 ай бұрын
😂what I like about Rtings video . 1:26 , evey episode has the hand 👈🏻 grinding that is not Abby hand 🖐️ ✌🏼
@norrbb87
@norrbb87 4 ай бұрын
excellent review👍
@anthonyh2884
@anthonyh2884 3 ай бұрын
I buy sony oleds strictly for upscaling my 1990s and 1980s movies. No other TV makes these classics look as sharp! 👏🏽🤩
@olievans7840
@olievans7840 4 ай бұрын
I’m still salty that the 65 Bravia 9 isn’t available in the UK!
@thenonexistinghero
@thenonexistinghero 4 ай бұрын
Well, better make space for a bigger one.
@ajwtf6539
@ajwtf6539 4 ай бұрын
Join the club
@JopieHaargel
@JopieHaargel 4 ай бұрын
Same in EU, such an asinine move by Sony. They must hate money.
@laserspewpew_7175
@laserspewpew_7175 4 ай бұрын
same in Australia too
@MrManguy17
@MrManguy17 4 ай бұрын
Just buy a bravia 7 and squint or something?
@clivematthews95
@clivematthews95 4 ай бұрын
Y’all are very real, said so many nice things about the Bravia 8, but in the end just can’t recommend it, that must be a pickle for Sony😅
@neptune612
@neptune612 4 ай бұрын
Those those who have brand loyalty, this is a good review, but not so much for those who need the best of the best regardless of brand. :)
@Legenkilla
@Legenkilla 4 ай бұрын
If you can tolerate qd oled with qc issues and worse processing then samsung is a good way to go. C3 and c4 and great but game mode colors are crap. And fmm makes things a bit to dark full screen.
@steveludwig4200
@steveludwig4200 4 ай бұрын
@@neptune612 Actually for SONY folks its NOT a good review because this TV is not even as good as A80L and costs $1000 more. B8 was a BAD move for SONY as was the B3 POS.
@kandoundou23
@kandoundou23 3 ай бұрын
@@steveludwig4200 I’m curious what makes you say that the Bravia 8 is not as good as the A80L? I’m about to buy the A80L but after researching between the two, I found that while the Bravia 8 is better, it’s not by much and definitely not worth the price difference.
@Mdaftz
@Mdaftz 2 ай бұрын
This TV brightness is similar to the LG B8 from 2018. Honestly it’s a disappointment. I would not consider it as an OLED option at all. You’re better off with mini led or a C4.
@AnimalnatureYT
@AnimalnatureYT 4 ай бұрын
Could you provide a guide on how to calibrate a tv?
@RTINGSdotcom
@RTINGSdotcom 4 ай бұрын
www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/bravia-8-oled/settings
@walker1054
@walker1054 Күн бұрын
Whys reviews never mention specs of the OS? Like the OS is a huge part of the TV and knowing the specs and speed will give you an idea of how smooth itll feel in years to come. Just having "It feels smooth" is not a good review. You could say the same about a £40 fire stick and a £160 nvidia shield google tv box, but are they the same? Not even close. Just like when buying a fire stick or shield we care about the specs and memory, so why not mention it here?image quality is great but if the tv gets laggy to use then the TV is trash, and this applies to many of your top recommended TV's after a year. The bravia 8 google tv has a very high end mediatek pentonic 1000 orocessor with 4 or 6gb memory i think, thats well beyond almost every other tv and i think faster than a shield in cpu tests. It adds so much value to the tv knowing itll be fast for 5+ years instead of 1 or 2. Some tvs youve rated high are slow to use within weeks but it accounts for nothing apparently. Even if its not counted in your score please at least mention the OS specs of the TVs, flash them on the screen for 5 seconds.
@X4Piper
@X4Piper 4 ай бұрын
Someone who owns the S90D. It’s horrible for movies. Motion isn’t good, it can’t handle dark scenes with flashes of light. Image processing is lack luster. Gaming it’s “ok” if you want crushed details leave contrast enhancer on default, if you detail and color and accuracy turn off contrast enhancer and then the Sony is just as bright if not brighter with much better image processing.
@BernardRodríguez-g6t
@BernardRodríguez-g6t Күн бұрын
I have the s90d 65" and I'm about to return it, its not accurate in colors, i have the sony x90l and its much better in all most areas. Besides de blacks wich is not a big deal
@X4Piper
@X4Piper Күн бұрын
@ ya once you have Sony anything else is hard to look at. I would get the Bravia 8 when you return the S90D.
@BernardRodríguez-g6t
@BernardRodríguez-g6t Күн бұрын
@@X4Piper you think that the Bravia 8 is bright enough? Because I love the quality of the X90L
@X4Piper
@X4Piper 20 сағат бұрын
@ I used to have Sony LEDs. Then I got a Sony A8G, A8H, A9G, A95K… and I never went back to Sony LED. The blooming I couldn’t do anymore. The tone mapping Sony does is top notch and on paper it may seem less bright but in real world viewing it doesn’t seem dim. The Bravia 8 It’s an upgrade over the S90D.
@BernardRodríguez-g6t
@BernardRodríguez-g6t 20 сағат бұрын
@@X4Piper the colors on the s90d are not accurate at all. Is incredible how good the colors are on the X90L. Will check the Bravia 8 then, thank you!!
@CommonSenseMatters1111
@CommonSenseMatters1111 Ай бұрын
I got a Sony Bravia 8 and it's an amazing TV.
@chibbyylol
@chibbyylol 4 ай бұрын
0:02 This whole time I’ve been thinking it was R-Tings (arr tings) lol
@16xthedetail76
@16xthedetail76 4 ай бұрын
I still call it are-tings :)
@Valdaemonium
@Valdaemonium 4 ай бұрын
Haha bro I thought the same as you 💀 I just can't let go of calling them "ar-tings" 🤡
@noer0205
@noer0205 4 ай бұрын
Yeah maybe they should have spelled it "Ray-tings" ? My head also can never get used to Rtings somehow spelling Ratings, in the first try 😅
@NikhilKumarji963
@NikhilKumarji963 Ай бұрын
i personally don't think it has comparison with c4 or s90d.... even the A80l has better picture quality than G4.... maybe overall the other model may be better but in term of picture processing it doesn't even come close....
@Marco-b4u
@Marco-b4u 4 ай бұрын
Is tis the same as x85leap
@BlakeHanback01
@BlakeHanback01 Ай бұрын
I bought a Bravia 8 does anyone think i need to a sound thing for it??? Or whats yalls thoughts on sound!
@wolverine5811
@wolverine5811 27 күн бұрын
Sony is said to have the best sound of any TV-but universally the recommendation is always to get a soundbar or system for the best sound
@jayallen7368
@jayallen7368 4 ай бұрын
As a just a movie watcher i check best buy c4 and bravia 8 . Sony was amazing drew me in . C4 looked good side by side sony picture sold me . Bravia 8 was my purchase. Great review.
@paulmoloughney
@paulmoloughney Ай бұрын
bravia 8 significantly brighter than c4 in game mode and brighter than c4 in SDR. Upscaling also better which constitutes most content. the price is now just a couple hundred more than the c4 it has become the better buy. Google OS also poops on LG's
@xw71
@xw71 4 ай бұрын
Why this TV got 8.5 for upscaling while the other Sony A80L got 9.0 8:07
@paulcox2447
@paulcox2447 4 ай бұрын
It's the same processor doing the same thing. I would say it's human bias since it's a "mid tier"
@dsoprano13
@dsoprano13 4 ай бұрын
Standards change over time. A TV from 5 years ago with a high score would have a low score if reviewed today.
@NyangoStarAmerica
@NyangoStarAmerica 3 ай бұрын
The bravia 8 looks way better than these reviewers are saying.
@kjm0227
@kjm0227 Ай бұрын
Yeah that’s suspect since I believe it’s the same processor as the Bravia 9 or a95l…the difference is it’s not as bright as those tv’s but processing should be the same
@Jodez23
@Jodez23 4 ай бұрын
80 series Oleds have been stuck in a rut for years now. Barely any progression in picture quality. Same old dim panels.
@trewright1482
@trewright1482 4 ай бұрын
@@Jodez23 and overpriced to boot
@George-hl2xm
@George-hl2xm 4 ай бұрын
Why not get the Samsung s90d and use a Nvidia Shield pro that can help with the video processing as well as other things
@Tidbitkid
@Tidbitkid 4 ай бұрын
No Dolby Vision or DTS audio not really good for movie enthusiasts looking for support of mainstream codecs/formats.
@Yoga_Tv_buying
@Yoga_Tv_buying 4 ай бұрын
Yeah I thought the same thing . I don’t even like Dolby Vision. Its so dark, it doesnt let u change sharpness or anything else. Its like 1 Trick Pony recipe cookie cutter.
@Tidbitkid
@Tidbitkid 4 ай бұрын
@@Yoga_Tv_buying most of that is external factors that can be controlled like lights and or bias lighting which can allow the eye to relax and see better contrast without too much eye strain. You can also have presets like Cinema home instead of Cinema. Without that said LG and Sony also allow HDR10 content to be played as well as HDR10+. You can also have an external media player or disc player that can force various options to have a better more personal preference in how the player led mode handles bright or dark elements for Dolby Vision. The difference is you have options vs not supporting it at all.
@trewright1482
@trewright1482 4 ай бұрын
@@TidbitkidDV is a joke. Are you a retard?
@randyduncan795
@randyduncan795 4 ай бұрын
Because of the lack of DTS support. We have standards for a reason. I spent more than an order of magnitude more on the audio part of my A/V system. After so many Galaxy S phones & watching others' experience with their appliances I'm about done with Samsung.
@IBtrollinyoufool
@IBtrollinyoufool 13 күн бұрын
The biggest factor why SONY may be preferred over the competition is the build quality. SONY TVs just last forever.
@charltonhmumo6759
@charltonhmumo6759 4 ай бұрын
Meh! Just wait for next year's models. 4 HDMI 120hz 4k inputs and harsh reviews of these TVs may make sony step their game up
@alvidrez7956
@alvidrez7956 11 күн бұрын
No 83"??
@robertbramirezjr3939
@robertbramirezjr3939 4 ай бұрын
My dad and me went to Best Buy store,looking to replace my dad’s 5 year old Sony x80k led which went south this year 2024. So we went for a new 2024 Sony A80L OLED TV 55’ with a A3000 Sony sound bar and a sw3 sub with a new Atmos/dolby vision Roku streamer with audio quest hdmi cables 10 feet long, two of them. My dad is very pleased with said purchase’s for his bedroom.
@Solymanlmrini
@Solymanlmrini 4 ай бұрын
Pas de test de consommation ?
@thomasstephenson1450
@thomasstephenson1450 3 ай бұрын
Looking at Sony bravia 8 and the samsung S90D 65-inch. Just don't know which one to go for 😢
@pagodad8079
@pagodad8079 3 ай бұрын
Lots of reviews on both. I’m in the same boat but add and lg to the mix. I am leaning towards Sony. Had a curved lg oled that got severe burn in and lg wouldn’t replace it under warranty. So I’m not a fan of them anymore. The Samsungs have more reviews with people getting lemons and having software issues early. Sony will probably be my choice. Just gotta decide on 65 or 77
@Yoga_Tv_buying
@Yoga_Tv_buying 3 ай бұрын
S90D any day 🎉
@JayJay-he9bk
@JayJay-he9bk 2 ай бұрын
Sony
@Yoga_Tv_buying
@Yoga_Tv_buying 2 ай бұрын
@@JayJay-he9bk Buddy, Sony A80L n Bravia8 are d 2 least worth buying tvs right now. --EXTREMELY low color Volume + sever Blue cast on 100% image + dim out , it wont look that good comparing QD-OLED , or Mini LED. ANY Image MOSTLY created 90% by Color volume/Density Casted Over brightness. 🔆 Mini LED / QD-OLED against --OLED with MLA(G3 G4) 🥮vs 🥐 🥬 vs 🧩 🪼 vs 🐋 🐦‍🔥 vs 🍉 🌺 vs 🌸 🔮vs 👩‍🎤 Mini LED/ QD-OLED against --low end dim WOLED Mini LED - to Dim Woled : LG C2 C3 C4 , b3 B4; SONY A80L , Bravia8 🌳 vs 🦚 🌹 vs 🥀 🍂 vs 🪹 🍄‍🟫vs 🪵 🪲vs 🐊 🪼 vs 🦕 A80L is GOOD TV, its Just NOT worth the Money in 2024 --Color Volume (Rtings) -- Red Luminance = A80L 92 cd/m² C4 104 cd/m² G4 140 cd/m² G3 140 cd/m² S95C 272 cd/m² HisenseUX 530 cd/m²--2023 Bravia9 551 cd/m²--2024 75U8N 421 cd/m² U8N 381 cd/m² U8K. 318 cd/m² Bravia7 356 cd/m² X95L 225 cd/m² X90L. 272 cd/m² S90D 281 cd/m² Green Luminance= A80L 317 cd/m² C4 333 cd/m² G4 426 cd/m² G3 420 cd/m² S95C 882 cd/m² HisenseUX. 1,656 cd/m²-2023 Bravia9 1,130 cd/m²--2024 75U8N 1,400 cd/m² U8N 1,433 cd/m² U8K 1,157 cd/m² Bravia7 . 834 cd/m² X95L 781 cd/m² X90L 778 cd/m² S90D 856 cd/m² Blue Luminance= A80L 33 cd/m² C4 38 cd/m² G4 49 cd/m² G3 53 cd/m² S95C 65 cd/m² HisenseUX 166 cd/m²--2023 Bravia9. 155 cd/m²--2024 75U8N 120 cd/m² U8N 127 cd/m² U8K 96 cd/m² Bravia7 127 cd/m² X95L 62 cd/m² X90L 91 cd/m² S90D 62 cd/m² Cyan Luminance= A80L 344 cd/m² C4 365 cd/m² G4 464 cd/m² G3 456 cd/m² S95C 950 cd/m² HisenseUX 2,001 cd/m²--2023 Bravia9 1,519 cd/m²--2024 75U8n 1,521 cd/m² U8N 1,532 cd/m² U8K 1,240 cd/m² Bravia7 1,265 cd/m² X95L 878 cd/m² X90L. 869 cd/m² S90D 919 cd/m² Magenta Luminance= A80L 120 cd/m² C4 134 cd/m² G4 179 cd/m² G3 177 cd/m² S95C 336 cd/m² HisenseUX 783 cd/m²-2023 Bravia9 698 cd/m²-2024 75U8N 536 cd/m² U8N 480 cd/m² U8K 398 cd/m² Bravia7 483 cd/m² X95L 294 cd/m² X90L 364 cd/m² S90D 342 cd/m² Yellow Luminance= A80L 405 cd/m² C4 425 cd/m² G4 546 cd/m² G3 546 cd/m² S95C 1,151 cd/m² HisenseUX 2,140 cd/m²-2023 Bravia9 2,427 cd/m²-2024 75U8N 1,810 cd/m² U8N 1,776 cd/m² U8K 1,475 cd/m² Bravia7 1,547 cd/m² X95L 1,154 cd/m²-2023 X90L 1,046 cd/m²-2023 S90D 1,133 cd/m²
@Legenkilla
@Legenkilla 4 ай бұрын
Lg is crap in game mode with its major dull colors, samsung has bad QC issues way oversaturated colors with no dolby vision support and worse processing. Sonys like the only ones who dont have a bunch of issues. And i love lg. if i could game in game mode without needing FMM on the g3 i would have gotten that tv.
@Yoga_Tv_buying
@Yoga_Tv_buying 4 ай бұрын
Dude samsung does not have over saturated colors. Those are true natrual. The sunshine ☀️ sun rise, sunset are all very warm. Candles, fire 🔥 pits are all warm. Tree 🌳 fruits 🍉, 🦔 human skin tones are all WARM tone. EYE retina n brain 🧠 processing 3D image highly depends on Brightness but WARM tone . Thats why Cloudy day or winter 🥶 blues everyrhing looks flat. A spring morning always look d most clear. The Samsung n Hisense are d BEST in color in any tv brands. SHARP Aquos too. We are being sold “less warm is natrual, in fact less warm image makes image LESS clear because our Retina color cells seek Warmth more than COLD Blue/purple colors. --taught by PHD professor about TV watching in Canada. 🇨🇦 sounds strange but they only teach truth in school professors in Canada in science are under Strict regulations on truth telling in terms science program. 😊 Dont let Industry to sell u an Idea whats what. We can NOT alter our biology. 🧬
@pedrovieira8602
@pedrovieira8602 4 ай бұрын
Something I've always wondered. How much manufacturers save by not making all HDMI 2.1. 100 dollars? More, less?
@Heliosvector
@Heliosvector 4 ай бұрын
Way less but they have a contract with the manufacturer of the chip that makes that component that doesn't expire until maybe next year. Do even if there was a chipset out there (there is) that can have all 4 be hdmi2. 1, they won't use it because they technically have already paid for the lower chipset up until 2025 probably for the deal that their chip orders cost less for however many years they made the contract for
@pedrovieira8602
@pedrovieira8602 4 ай бұрын
@@Heliosvector oh, I never knew it was a Chipset thing. Very interesting
@krisw4846
@krisw4846 4 ай бұрын
Mediatek's been holding them back for way too long
@brianbeckwith2141
@brianbeckwith2141 4 ай бұрын
Four HDMI 2.1 ports probably coming to SONY higher end TVs in 2025. Existing Pentonic chips are limited to two HDMI 2.1 ports for use with game consoles such as PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X. The Pentonic 800 (already announced) will support HDMI 2.1a, which supports Quick Media Switching (QMS), although there is no mention specifically about QMS. MediaTek says that the Pentonic 800 SOC "supports up to 4 high-speed video/audio input interfaces" but it is unclear exactly what the company means. IMO it will feature four HDMI 2.1 ports this time, as Sony & a couple other TV manufactures have gotten lots of grief for not having four HDMI 2.1 ports
@MyHokaHey
@MyHokaHey 4 ай бұрын
The best is to the end, falling down from my chair 😆🤣😂👍
@mkplaylist5147
@mkplaylist5147 3 ай бұрын
WRGB from LG should be not classified as 4k .White subpixel makes for 25% of subpixels what reduces real resolution to 2550x1500 around .Def. pixel - smalest point of screen that dispalys all colors black and white.Picture captured by RGB sensor will be on WRGB panel diplayed with incorrect colors.Those display should NOT be a 4K cert.
@kev3226
@kev3226 4 ай бұрын
Do you all think it would be a big upgrade from the Sony A8F?
@RTINGSdotcom
@RTINGSdotcom 4 ай бұрын
Hello! Help with personalized buying advice is something our experts offer only via our insider forums www.rtings.com/forums/insider-advice. We do have lots of self-service tools and recommendation articles that should be helpful as well though!
@lakelouiseskier
@lakelouiseskier 4 ай бұрын
Uh, the Bravia 8 77” is cheaper than the 77” C4 today at Best Buy Canada. Don’t know what you’re talking about about. 🤷‍♂️
@falsehope5529
@falsehope5529 4 ай бұрын
Well every where else it’s expensive
@NikhilKumarji963
@NikhilKumarji963 Ай бұрын
how much is bravia 8 and c4
@lakelouiseskier
@lakelouiseskier Ай бұрын
@@NikhilKumarji963 Prices change from week to week, especially this time of year with sales, but today at Best Buy Canada a 77” C4 is $4,299 and a 77” Bravia 8 is $3,999. 😊
@Yoga_Tv_buying
@Yoga_Tv_buying 4 ай бұрын
❤As soon as I saw Abby on the thumbnail , i just clicked the video. :) 😊
@leemiah3583
@leemiah3583 Ай бұрын
I've noticed some about this channel they always talk bad about Sony I love Sony products
@LukeLXIV
@LukeLXIV 4 ай бұрын
I really don’t think the C4 is the clear win for gaming - I actually think most would prefer the Bravia 8. The C4 loses a decent amount of brightness in both SDR and HDR game modes, which means visuals won’t pop/impress as much as they would on the Bravia 8. I know you guys listed this in your comparison slides at the end, but I’m really surprised it wasn’t discussed in the conclusion. There are WAY more people out there with just one of the latest consoles (so HDMI port limitation not an issue) and who are also not going to be remote sensitive to the ever-so-slightly worse input lag. If gaming is not a factor, sure the C4 is better value. But for mixed usage including gaming, I actually think most will enjoy the Bravia 8 more.
@drunkhusband6257
@drunkhusband6257 4 ай бұрын
Having just went to BestBuy with my mini pc to check them both out....the Bravia 8 is much brighter in game mode vs the c4.
@jeskow19
@jeskow19 3 ай бұрын
This review became nonsense once she mentioned Samsung. I'd rather read newspapers for the rest of my life than risk my money on ANY samsun product that isn't a phone.
@doudymac
@doudymac 2 ай бұрын
KZbin reviewers these days: Other TVs are .5% better than this one. Conclusion: Total disappointment 👎 😁
@Tekhelet75
@Tekhelet75 4 ай бұрын
I took a look at this a few days ago. Screen quality looked good.
@BangBang9rGang
@BangBang9rGang 2 ай бұрын
Rtings is not a reliable source for honest reviews. They most definitely have a bias against Sony. Legit reviewers always talk about how Sonys have the most accurate image quality and Rtings routinely shits on Sony.
@furballbear
@furballbear 2 ай бұрын
I'm a PS5 gamer and the Bravia 8 is certainly on my wish list. I'll probably snag a 55 inch on Black Friday if the price drops low enough.
@christhompson6010
@christhompson6010 20 күн бұрын
unfortunately LG,s have a horrible repair record and are prone to failure. maybe it's improved over the years but last company i worked for we removed all the LG panels due to failure over time. and went with sony or samsung. I tend to stay away from that brand
@iamrahulnigam
@iamrahulnigam 3 ай бұрын
dunno why they stopped a95l in India😢
@Barbarapape
@Barbarapape 4 ай бұрын
Another mehh TV from this years Sony range, I was hoping for good things from the Bravia 7 as no way do i want another Oled But your review has made me think twice. The HDMI and other issues should be resolved in the 2025 models with Mediateks new SoC. I can wait, no sense in wasting money on a below par expensive TV. Thanks for another honest reivew, where would we be without Abby ?
@salesfocus6270
@salesfocus6270 4 ай бұрын
I don't rate ratings reviews. They take the humanity out of picture quality. Go to a store. Get a C4 s90 and Bravia 8 side by side with the same KZbin video. The Sony will look sharper, have more detail. Have better sound. Have a better os. Have smoother motion. These reviewers base everything on stats as if it's a computer. Picture qualiry is art.
@MrKomninakis
@MrKomninakis 4 ай бұрын
@@salesfocus6270 exactly
@59marck
@59marck 4 ай бұрын
@@salesfocus6270 Her verdict seems to be coming from a gamer's point of you. Not every one is a gamer. About movies viewing?
@Codestud
@Codestud 4 ай бұрын
Anyone think this is worth paying a bit more over the Bravia 7?
@RTINGSdotcom
@RTINGSdotcom 4 ай бұрын
Hello! Help with personalized buying advice is something our experts offer only via our insider forums www.rtings.com/forums/insider-advice. We do have lots of self-service tools and recommendation articles that should be helpful as well though!
@Ghorir
@Ghorir 4 ай бұрын
Some people prefer google tv over webos for example.
@mbvx7
@mbvx7 3 ай бұрын
does blooming bother you? if so for sure go old. I just watched these two side by side at Best Buy. the 7 is decent. the 8 was better
@drewfwieuriskfi
@drewfwieuriskfi 3 ай бұрын
Sony destroys any tv in speakers. Way better sound than G4
@mattg3164
@mattg3164 Ай бұрын
why is peggy hill doing the review
@angel24354
@angel24354 4 ай бұрын
No significant improvement from the A80J, just a design change, I think they should have released a 55" version of the Bravia 9 and not released this OLED that makes no difference to the previous one.
@ericlarsen6209
@ericlarsen6209 4 ай бұрын
@@angel24354 for your info, The XR processor from the A80J, A80k lacks clear image so they are not the same
@unknownsource4359
@unknownsource4359 4 ай бұрын
@@ericlarsen6209the untrained eye wouldn’t even know what clear image is. It’s a small incremental “upgrade” at best.
@selshreepg
@selshreepg 2 ай бұрын
I just saw your review and bought sony x85j in 2022 it was good for one year only now display problem.... don't review sony tv...
@pavanvsgamingchannel9126
@pavanvsgamingchannel9126 3 ай бұрын
Price please any one
@heatwaveps5
@heatwaveps5 4 ай бұрын
bravia 8 like 2.000 55 inch rather buy a lg oled they are better for gaming brighter hdr & the game optimiser
@kjjr9550
@kjjr9550 2 ай бұрын
LG warranties are trash. Customer support very trash. Look up overheating issues and how many people have it right around 3 year mark on other LG oleds. Sony live tv looks so much better than lg its not even close. LG in the older version did a little better for gaming. Doesnt matter after 3 years tv is a paper weight.
@JoselitoJrGuya-hs9tf
@JoselitoJrGuya-hs9tf 2 ай бұрын
Who watches on a super bright TV? Most people watch at night or in a low light room esp movies. Brightness is not a deal breaker. Oled sony is the best
@Quantum_TV
@Quantum_TV 4 ай бұрын
Not going QD-OLED was a fail for sony. Year after year we all tell them their ports are limited. Calibration wise they always pin white balence across all formats on a given hdmi port. This makes it impossible to calibrate more than one format per hdmi port, further lowering its value. I'd just go on a payment plan for the A95L. Because atleast that picture is significantly better. I hated the nod at elden ring but another fair review.
@Yoga_Tv_buying
@Yoga_Tv_buying 4 ай бұрын
🎉well said 😊
@chillipepper75rh8
@chillipepper75rh8 3 ай бұрын
No no,thw best input lag have Sony XH 90
@michaelwyckoff7593
@michaelwyckoff7593 4 ай бұрын
Hi Abby. Oh well you can't win them all. Disappointing? Really😂
@joaolucasprates3275
@joaolucasprates3275 4 ай бұрын
Foi os DISPLAYS OLED que mostrou o que é contraste infinito verdadeiro pra saber do contraste tem que falar de brilho e hoje só o DISPLAYS OLED tem contraste infinito verdadeiro pra saber pode fazer os testes mais difícil extremamente exigente ela passa em todos os teste põe tudo na medida certa com precisão brilho profundidade etc
@allcan4175
@allcan4175 15 күн бұрын
nope. better; I'd never choose a C4 over this
@seethuram9187
@seethuram9187 3 ай бұрын
Sony Bravia screen flickering in less than 24 months of purchase even connected to stabilizer. Very very un reliable and need to change screen almost costs 30+k , really horrible. No help from Sony simply suggesting screen replacement.
@burd7455
@burd7455 4 ай бұрын
This TV should start at $1500
@Soldier-cu7hx
@Soldier-cu7hx 4 ай бұрын
Exactly, that’s why I passed on this tv this year, not that it’s too expensive but it’s overpriced for what it offers. Sony would be somewhat justified in the price if this was a QD OLED starting at maybe $2000 max and just made it a step down from the A95L, that way it would’ve been a direct competitor to the S90D/ and S95D in some cases, and all LG OLEDs except the G4 would’ve been in trouble too. This model would’ve sold out and that way they could have eventually cut the price on the A95L overtime and still make profit. Sony needs to rethink their sales strategies
@bruceparker3139
@bruceparker3139 4 ай бұрын
Naming convention is as easy as complexed Sony made their lineup😂
@madcrowmaxwell
@madcrowmaxwell 4 ай бұрын
TLDW: if buying a Sony, get an A95L or a Bravia 9. Everything else will be a disappointment.
@clojap
@clojap 4 ай бұрын
The gaming stuff cracks me up, nobody notices that input lag unless they are a competitive gamer and they are probably playing on a monitor. I don't even put my tv in game mode and it has input lag in the 80's and I have no problems lol
@Sedge86
@Sedge86 4 ай бұрын
My set for some reason didn't auto game mode the other day and hell yes it was noticeable. And I'm only playing Starfield ATM. 80ms is most certainly noticeable.
@clojap
@clojap 4 ай бұрын
@@Sedge86 I have been gaming since the atari 2600. If you aren't playing competitive online games I doubt u can tell. I play fighting games online and have no issues. If it mattered that much I would lose every round
@Sedge86
@Sedge86 4 ай бұрын
@@clojap some people are sensitive to latency, some (yourself) aren't. Some people can play 30fps, some people can't stand it. Some people will play at 720p, come people won't. Welcome to the real world
@clojap
@clojap 4 ай бұрын
@@Sedge86 I understand that but when you are talking about the difference between the LG, Sony and Samsung tv's in game mode it's not something anyone is going to feel. The 30fps vs 60fps stuff is much more noticeable but even then most people get used to it after a few minutes.
@orlandonosnhoj1286
@orlandonosnhoj1286 2 ай бұрын
Some are never satisfied, gamers and there f ING lag shhhhh
@greendusk93
@greendusk93 4 ай бұрын
LG won this year..
@Jordanbully
@Jordanbully 27 күн бұрын
Important point is LG is not reliable
@tuckerjeffrey
@tuckerjeffrey 19 күн бұрын
I have replaced 3 LG OLED Televisions over the last 8 years. They all suffered from BURN IN.. I watch Fox News and that banner at the bottom will burn in every time or at least that has been my experience. Went with the Bravia 9 in the 77'' size and the blacks on that Sony is amazing, is it OLED, not quite, but the average viewer that's not critical would never know the difference. The Bravia 9 is a beast in my Bedroon.
@eric3672
@eric3672 4 ай бұрын
Rtings bought and paid for reviews, so Sony doesn't pay so they get shafted... Rtings=Invalid
@RTINGSdotcom
@RTINGSdotcom 4 ай бұрын
For what it's worth, our reviews are based on objective test results and the units we test are all purchased ourselves. It's important to us that our experience matches that of the average user, so we leave no room for brands to be able to impact the work that we do!
@Yoga_Tv_buying
@Yoga_Tv_buying 4 ай бұрын
Hi 👋🏻 Bella ❤Abby
@vmal04
@vmal04 3 ай бұрын
Tu es vraiment mort de faim c'est la télé qui nous intéresse là 😅
@racineurr.8924
@racineurr.8924 4 ай бұрын
Ooh God. Reviewers that try too much to be reviewers become destroyers. How many here would love to own this Bravia 8...
@henfibr
@henfibr 4 ай бұрын
They just say that many here should buy a cheaper alternative for the same or better picture quality (or features). The issue here is the price for the product (2.5k) compared to other products in the same category, not the product itself.
@gallynuts
@gallynuts 4 ай бұрын
I have the 65”
@bleachedwhale
@bleachedwhale 4 ай бұрын
Their points are all legitimate. If you've already made up your mind to buy a Sony OLED, just get last year's flagship while it's available. They praised the heck out of that model for good reason.
@MrKomninakis
@MrKomninakis 4 ай бұрын
@@bleachedwhalewhich model is their flagship?
@MetalMike56
@MetalMike56 4 ай бұрын
@@MrKomninakis Sony A95L. Significantly more expensive though.
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