Sony BRAVIA 8 OLED Review - Lags Behind The Competition?

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The Sony BRAVIA 8 OLED is Sony's OLED option in their 2024 BRAVIA lineup and is the successor to the Sony A80L/A80CL OLED. It sits above the Sony BRAVIA 7 QLED and below the Sony BRAVIA 9 QLED.
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0:00 Intro 
0:41 Design & Build Quality
1:47 Inputs
2:52 Interface & Remote
3:31 Contrast
3:52 HDR Brightness & PQ EOTF Tracking
4:44 Color Gamut & Color Volume
5:27 SDR Brightness & Reflections
6:25 SDR Color Accuracy (Pre & Post Calibration)
7:06 Viewing Angle
7:25 Image Processing
8:48 Gaming
10:39 Verdict
12:37 Outro
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[@JopieHaargel]

Me watching OLED screens on my cheap LED: "Man, these OLEDs look so much better than my cheap LED!"

[@PigletCNC]

Now go watch them in a store. It's craaaazy I tell you.

[@michael-4k4000]

What about Peter Scarlett 🤔

[@Valdaemonium]

@@JopieHaargel I watch RTings reviews by a DCIP3 HDR10+ IPS LCD from a Poco X3 NFC. Though it's not OLED, I can tell, bro, I do see their vibrant colors and how TV is, or isn't, wide gamut color capable🙌

[@tjf7101]

So true 😂

[@glbernini0]

Who hasn't listened to speaker reviews & thought WOW WISH I HAD THOSE!

[@007GoldenLion]

How is a 30% increase in brightnes disapointing?

[@christophejergales7852]

Because at least 35% is required to make Abby happy.

[@thomasconway95]

Because it's still behind the C4

[@ryans413]

Because they get paid to say good thing about the most expensive sets. This tv comes in at roughly 2500 not cheap the Bravia 7 2200 and they said both these TVs were not worth buying but praised the Bravia 9 which is 4000. If you get the Bravia 8 or 7 you will be impressed.

[@BDAkaGoat]

​@@thomasconway95 From pure picture quality,Lg is behind Sony.

[@JD-ey8hw]

@@BDAkaGoatthe video states literally the opposite with evidence to back it up.

[@Valdaemonium]

Amazing review!

[@norrbb87]

excellent review👍

[@Marc.Google]

I think more manufacturers should move to a 2-year release cycle. Focus more on big innovation over small, year-over-year improvements.

[@steveludwig4200]

No because they need to keep the "assembly" lines rolling just like cars. And there are PLENTY of TV buyers that are ignorant enough to buy the latest and greatest high collar TVs nearly EVERY year at jacked up prices.

[@clivematthews95]

Y’all are very real, said so many nice things about the Bravia 8, but in the end just can’t recommend it, that must be a pickle for Sony😅

[@neptune612]

Those those who have brand loyalty, this is a good review, but not so much for those who need the best of the best regardless of brand. :)

[@Legenkilla]

If you can tolerate qd oled with qc issues and worse processing then samsung is a good way to go. C3 and c4 and great but game mode colors are crap. And fmm makes things a bit to dark full screen.

[@steveludwig4200]

@@neptune612 Actually for SONY folks its NOT a good review because this TV is not even as good as A80L and costs $1000 more. B8 was a BAD move for SONY as was the B3 POS.

[@LDBetaGuy]

The remote for the Bravia 8 (RMF-TX820U) is not backlit as stated in this review. EDIT: If you purchase the Costco version, it does come with a backlit remote.

[@randyduncan795]

I can't imagine purchasing anything but the Costco version. Something about that free 4 year warranty.

[@kylebird5041]

Hi RTings, How do I calibrate for better colors?

[@MyHokaHey]

The best is to the end, falling down from my chair 😆🤣😂👍

[@ericmwitimwiti3963]

is the frame same as a 80l? or it just look like led...

[@EhNothing]

Thanks rtings

[@nickanthony4979]

Hows burn in? I have 2017 LG Oled and significant burn in within a couple years. Really downplayed even in reviews. Would never buy another oled until I hear reliable longterm review that this problem has been resolved.

[@jorge69696]

Still the same, it just happens slower now.

[@AntonioDiego95]

Try a LG G4. It has a 5 years screen warranty against burn-in

[@Heliosvector]

Ever since 2019, oleds have used a new chemical in the subpixels. Burn in is severely reduced. Like 3 times better health than your version.

[@GoranTosev8989]

My LG c1 has 17600 hours on it. No burn in yet. 3 to 4 hours a day mostly fifa gaming. 3 to 4 hours a day HDR Movies and Series. SDR brightness between 30 and 40 depending on input.

[@laserspewpew_7175]

OLED has improved a lot on the burn in issue. I have had a Sony Oled for 3 years and have no sign of burn in. I watch tv/movies 70% of time and gaming 30%. As long as you aren't watching news channels or channels with a banner for hours on end a day you will be fine.

[@Tekhelet75]

I took a look at this a few days ago. Screen quality looked good.

[@GuppyPupples]

Reviewers always make such a big deal out of having just two HDMI 2.1 ports when it only matters for people who have a PlayStation 5 AND an Xbox Series X AND a soundbar that doesn’t support HDMI 2.1 passthrough.

[@bleachedwhale]

It is a big deal for futureproofing, unless you plan on using an AVR or switcher with 2.1 support. It's just a dumb omission for such a premium product. Why WOULDN'T you want a TV at this price to have full flexibility?

[@ericlarsen6209]

@@GuppyPupples Remember LG for gamers, Sony for movies

[@DeesBees85]

HDMI 2.1 is only going to become more important in the years to come. In the coming years there will be more and more devices that support it. Sony charges a premium price, so they should be judged and compared to their competitors who all have 4 HDMI 2.1 ports.

[@ericlarsen6209]

@@DeesBees85 only because of the gamers. I used my Nvidia on the 3 option 2.1 bought it to watch movies

[@GuppyPupples]

Not saying it isn’t a shortcoming at all. Just saying it’s a little weird to constantly flag it as a problem to people who mostly won’t be impacted by it in any way.

[@robertbramirezjr3939]

My dad and me went to Best Buy store,looking to replace my dad’s 5 year old Sony x80k led which went south this year 2024. So we went for a new 2024 Sony A80L OLED TV 55’ with a A3000 Sony sound bar and a sw3 sub with a new Atmos/dolby vision Roku streamer with audio quest hdmi cables 10 feet long, two of them. My dad is very pleased with said purchase’s for his bedroom.

[@TheBlueWanderer2000]

Will it suffer from burn-in during gaming use in the long run? I might either buy this or the Bravia 7.

[@MarkNOTW]

Do you personally know anyone who has suffered burn in?

[@TheBlueWanderer2000]

@@MarkNOTW Not that I know of.

[@carlosmiss6860]

What would you buy? A 65” bravia 8? Or a 65 a95k (2022 - qd-oled)

[@RTINGSdotcom]

Hello! Help with personalized buying advice is something our experts offer only via our insider forums www.rtings.com/forums/insider-advice. We do have lots of self-service tools and recommendation articles that should be helpful as well though!

[@sammy10001]

The win here is the glossy screen. A80j, a80k, and a80l have all been semi-matte at the 55, 65, and 77 inch size. Only the 83" varient of the 80 series have been pure glossy. Its the reason i still preffered LG. A95L and A90j have always been glossy. Their top tier TV has always been glossy but theyve been handicapping the 80 series with that disgusting matte finish. Now the 80 series is worth buying again.

[@falsehope5529]

@@sammy10001 do you know the A80K and A80L use the B3 oled screens not the EX display ones that the lg C3 had as why they had that semi gloss look and also weren’t as bright as the lgs

[@redrocklead]

My 77" a80l has a glossy screen.

[@trewright1482]

Sad as the QD OLED is far superior to LG. LG cope is real

[@Heliosvector]

​@@trewright1482 QD oled unfortunately still use a triangular subpixel layout, so text fringing is horrible. I can't stand it

[@tbecket4890]

@@falsehope5529That explains alot on my A80J

[@Jodez23]

80 series Oleds have been stuck in a rut for years now. Barely any progression in picture quality. Same old dim panels.

[@trewright1482]

@@Jodez23 and overpriced to boot

[@AnimalnatureYT]

Could you provide a guide on how to calibrate a tv?

[@RTINGSdotcom]

www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/bravia-8-oled/settings

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

😂what I like about Rtings video . 1:26 , evey episode has the hand 👈🏻 grinding that is not Abby hand 🖐️ ✌🏼

[@xw71]

Why this TV got 8.5 for upscaling while the other Sony A80L got 9.0 8:07

[@paulcox2447]

It's the same processor doing the same thing. I would say it's human bias since it's a "mid tier"

[@dsoprano13]

Standards change over time. A TV from 5 years ago with a high score would have a low score if reviewed today.

[@Greg29]

Would this TV be good for a bedroom TV, in totally blacked out conditions?

[@RTINGSdotcom]

Hello! Help with personalized buying advice is something our experts offer only via our insider forums www.rtings.com/forums/insider-advice. We do have lots of self-service tools and recommendation articles that should be helpful as well though!

[@fawkkyutuu8851]

- B9 85 Inch or A95L 77 Inch If you got big money. - S90D/S90C or Bravia 7(only on BF sale) for good value+budget.

[@trewright1482]

77inch S90C is every bit the TV the A95L is and you have enough money the buy a Q990C/D soundbar for Q Symphony

[@chibbyylol]

0:02 This whole time I’ve been thinking it was R-Tings (arr tings) lol

[@16xthedetail76]

I still call it are-tings :)

[@Valdaemonium]

Haha bro I thought the same as you 💀 I just can't let go of calling them "ar-tings" 🤡

[@noer0205]

Yeah maybe they should have spelled it "Ray-tings" ? My head also can never get used to Rtings somehow spelling Ratings, in the first try 😅

[@dperr338]

My grandma bought an LG Nanocell and it only lasted about 4 years and now randomly shuts itself off. I understand factory defects happen but based on my grandma’s experience I wouldn’t buy LG. I had a 8 year old Vizio that works fine. I just upgraded to Sony X90L about 6 months ago. Hopefully the Sony lasts.

[@George-hl2xm]

Why not get the Samsung s90d and use a Nvidia Shield pro that can help with the video processing as well as other things

[@Tidbitkid]

No Dolby Vision or DTS audio not really good for movie enthusiasts looking for support of mainstream codecs/formats.

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

Yeah I thought the same thing . I don’t even like Dolby Vision. Its so dark, it doesnt let u change sharpness or anything else. Its like 1 Trick Pony recipe cookie cutter.

[@Tidbitkid]

@@Yoga_Tv_buying most of that is external factors that can be controlled like lights and or bias lighting which can allow the eye to relax and see better contrast without too much eye strain. You can also have presets like Cinema home instead of Cinema. Without that said LG and Sony also allow HDR10 content to be played as well as HDR10+. You can also have an external media player or disc player that can force various options to have a better more personal preference in how the player led mode handles bright or dark elements for Dolby Vision. The difference is you have options vs not supporting it at all.

[@trewright1482]

@@TidbitkidDV is a joke. Are you a retard?

[@randyduncan795]

Because of the lack of DTS support. We have standards for a reason. I spent more than an order of magnitude more on the audio part of my A/V system. After so many Galaxy S phones & watching others' experience with their appliances I'm about done with Samsung.

[@hefrocks]

i think i liked it and going to buy. now i have xh8096 and it is bright enough, and bravia 8 is brighter as i see in tests. and it has newer version of Google TV which i like. My TV now outputs much nicer picture then i saw on my friends Samsung and chinese TVs and Bravia 8 outputs even better picture and has even more vividness which is already enough. I don't know what more could I ask. And if it lacks something comparing to competition it's not visible to a naked eye. And in my region it costs a bit cheaper. I'm talking about 55 inch - maybe this is important. So I consider this is solid choice for me. I also have PS5 and no TV SET BOXES, no Rokus and other stuff so i need only 1 HDMI. My sound outputs via optical.

[@olievans7840]

I’m still salty that the 65 Bravia 9 isn’t available in the UK!

[@thenonexistinghero]

Well, better make space for a bigger one.

[@ajwtf6539]

Join the club

[@JopieHaargel]

Same in EU, such an asinine move by Sony. They must hate money.

[@laserspewpew_7175]

same in Australia too

[@MrManguy17]

Just buy a bravia 7 and squint or something?

[@lakelouiseskier]

Uh, the Bravia 8 77” is cheaper than the 77” C4 today at Best Buy Canada. Don’t know what you’re talking about about. 🤷‍♂️

[@falsehope5529]

Well every where else it’s expensive

[@Solymanlmrini]

Pas de test de consommation ?

[@pedrovieira8602]

Something I've always wondered. How much manufacturers save by not making all HDMI 2.1. 100 dollars? More, less?

[@Heliosvector]

Way less but they have a contract with the manufacturer of the chip that makes that component that doesn't expire until maybe next year. Do even if there was a chipset out there (there is) that can have all 4 be hdmi2. 1, they won't use it because they technically have already paid for the lower chipset up until 2025 probably for the deal that their chip orders cost less for however many years they made the contract for

[@pedrovieira8602]

@@Heliosvector oh, I never knew it was a Chipset thing. Very interesting

[@krisw4846]

Mediatek's been holding them back for way too long

[@brianbeckwith2141]

Four HDMI 2.1 ports probably coming to SONY higher end TVs in 2025. Existing Pentonic chips are limited to two HDMI 2.1 ports for use with game consoles such as PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X. The Pentonic 800 (already announced) will support HDMI 2.1a, which supports Quick Media Switching (QMS), although there is no mention specifically about QMS. MediaTek says that the Pentonic 800 SOC "supports up to 4 high-speed video/audio input interfaces" but it is unclear exactly what the company means. IMO it will feature four HDMI 2.1 ports this time, as Sony & a couple other TV manufactures have gotten lots of grief for not having four HDMI 2.1 ports

[@TVEXPERT.Co.]

I don’t know what to say, but one thing is for sure that RTINGS surely know how to “Not sell Sony”. 😂

[@kev3226]

Do you all think it would be a big upgrade from the Sony A8F?

[@RTINGSdotcom]

Hello! Help with personalized buying advice is something our experts offer only via our insider forums www.rtings.com/forums/insider-advice. We do have lots of self-service tools and recommendation articles that should be helpful as well though!

[@charltonhmumo6759]

Meh! Just wait for next year's models. 4 HDMI 120hz 4k inputs and harsh reviews of these TVs may make sony step their game up

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

❤As soon as I saw Abby on the thumbnail , i just clicked the video. :) 😊

[@Skelejake]

I originally thought this was gonna be a repeat of the A80L and I was impressed with its display honestly. When this goes on sale, it’s a straight upgrade for my x90K. I recognize the C4 is technically better, but I prefer Sony’s processing, and the operating system far above both LG and Samsung.

[@LukeLXIV]

I really don’t think the C4 is the clear win for gaming - I actually think most would prefer the Bravia 8. The C4 loses a decent amount of brightness in both SDR and HDR game modes, which means visuals won’t pop/impress as much as they would on the Bravia 8. I know you guys listed this in your comparison slides at the end, but I’m really surprised it wasn’t discussed in the conclusion. There are WAY more people out there with just one of the latest consoles (so HDMI port limitation not an issue) and who are also not going to be remote sensitive to the ever-so-slightly worse input lag. If gaming is not a factor, sure the C4 is better value. But for mixed usage including gaming, I actually think most will enjoy the Bravia 8 more.

[@drunkhusband6257]

Having just went to BestBuy with my mini pc to check them both out....the Bravia 8 is much brighter in game mode vs the c4.

[@robertreynolds2212]

The Bravia 8 is amazing. Purchased a 55' model a few weeks ago and have loved it for gaming and 4k movies. Definitely the best TV I've personally owned and really took time to research before purchasing. If you have a PS5 it's almost a no brainer.

[@trewright1482]

Uh no. The S90 is far superior as it is QD OLED

[@Heliosvector]

​@@trewright1482has no Dolby vision though and it's a Samsung. If it breaks, they won't help you and the techs will cut your screen with a knife to try and avoid a warranty claim

[@trewright1482]

@@Heliosvector DV is so washed out and overrated. LG is bad for burn in. WOLED is woeful..

[@MarkNOTW]

@@trewright1482please stop the burn in hype

[@salesfocus6270]

​@@trewright1482Not to mention Samsung's build quality and lack of motion processing

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

Hi 👋🏻 Bella ❤Abby

[@X4Piper]

Someone who owns the S90D. It’s horrible for movies. Motion isn’t good, it can’t handle dark scenes with flashes of light. Image processing is lack luster. Gaming it’s “ok” if you want crushed details leave contrast enhancer on default, if you detail and color and accuracy turn off contrast enhancer and then the Sony is just as bright if not brighter with much better image processing.

[@michaelwyckoff7593]

Hi Abby. Oh well you can't win them all. Disappointing? Really😂

[@Codestud]

Anyone think this is worth paying a bit more over the Bravia 7?

[@RTINGSdotcom]

Hello! Help with personalized buying advice is something our experts offer only via our insider forums www.rtings.com/forums/insider-advice. We do have lots of self-service tools and recommendation articles that should be helpful as well though!

[@Barbarapape]

Another mehh TV from this years Sony range, I was hoping for good things from the Bravia 7 as no way do i want another Oled But your review has made me think twice. The HDMI and other issues should be resolved in the 2025 models with Mediateks new SoC. I can wait, no sense in wasting money on a below par expensive TV. Thanks for another honest reivew, where would we be without Abby ?

[@salesfocus6270]

I don't rate ratings reviews. They take the humanity out of picture quality. Go to a store. Get a C4 s90 and Bravia 8 side by side with the same KZbin video. The Sony will look sharper, have more detail. Have better sound. Have a better os. Have smoother motion. These reviewers base everything on stats as if it's a computer. Picture qualiry is art.

[@MrKomninakis]

@@salesfocus6270 exactly

[@59marck]

@@salesfocus6270 Her verdict seems to be coming from a gamer's point of you. Not every one is a gamer. About movies viewing?

[@bustercolin7507]

Not in to Sony's bottom bezel.

[@greendusk93]

LG won this year..

[@burd7455]

This TV should start at $1500

[@Soldier-cu7hx]

Exactly, that’s why I passed on this tv this year, not that it’s too expensive but it’s overpriced for what it offers. Sony would be somewhat justified in the price if this was a QD OLED starting at maybe $2000 max and just made it a step down from the A95L, that way it would’ve been a direct competitor to the S90D/ and S95D in some cases, and all LG OLEDs except the G4 would’ve been in trouble too. This model would’ve sold out and that way they could have eventually cut the price on the A95L overtime and still make profit. Sony needs to rethink their sales strategies

[@mickeygoldmill3965]

WELL HELLO

[@bruceparker3139]

Naming convention is as easy as complexed Sony made their lineup😂

[@angel24354]

No significant improvement from the A80J, just a design change, I think they should have released a 55" version of the Bravia 9 and not released this OLED that makes no difference to the previous one.

[@ericlarsen6209]

@@angel24354 for your info, The XR processor from the A80J, A80k lacks clear image so they are not the same

[@unknownsource4359]

@@ericlarsen6209the untrained eye wouldn’t even know what clear image is. It’s a small incremental “upgrade” at best.

[@madcrowmaxwell]

TLDW: if buying a Sony, get an A95L or a Bravia 9. Everything else will be a disappointment.

[@Legenkilla]

Lg is crap in game mode with its major dull colors, samsung has bad QC issues way oversaturated colors with no dolby vision support and worse processing. Sonys like the only ones who dont have a bunch of issues. And i love lg. if i could game in game mode without needing FMM on the g3 i would have gotten that tv.

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

Dude samsung does not have over saturated colors. Those are true natrual. The sunshine ☀️ sun rise, sunset are all very warm. Candles, fire 🔥 pits are all warm. Tree 🌳 fruits 🍉, 🦔 human skin tones are all WARM tone. EYE retina n brain 🧠 processing 3D image highly depends on Brightness but WARM tone . Thats why Cloudy day or winter 🥶 blues everyrhing looks flat. A spring morning always look d most clear. The Samsung n Hisense are d BEST in color in any tv brands. SHARP Aquos too. We are being sold “less warm is natrual, in fact less warm image makes image LESS clear because our Retina color cells seek Warmth more than COLD Blue/purple colors. --taught by PHD professor about TV watching in Canada. 🇨🇦 sounds strange but they only teach truth in school professors in Canada in science are under Strict regulations on truth telling in terms science program. 😊 Dont let Industry to sell u an Idea whats what. We can NOT alter our biology. 🧬

[@davel4449]

Is it me or the feet looks like a dollars store

[@davel4449]

Way too expensive compared to the better Samsung

[@heatwaveps5]

bravia 8 like 2.000 55 inch rather buy a lg oled they are better for gaming brighter hdr & the game optimiser

[@jayallen7368]

As a just a movie watcher i check best buy c4 and bravia 8 . Sony was amazing drew me in . C4 looked good side by side sony picture sold me . Bravia 8 was my purchase. Great review.

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

❤🎉❤🎉❤🎉

[@joaolucasprates3275]

Foi os DISPLAYS OLED que mostrou o que é contraste infinito verdadeiro pra saber do contraste tem que falar de brilho e hoje só o DISPLAYS OLED tem contraste infinito verdadeiro pra saber pode fazer os testes mais difícil extremamente exigente ela passa em todos os teste põe tudo na medida certa com precisão brilho profundidade etc

[@danielsweety542]

Haier c900 review please

[@racineurr.8924]

Ooh God. Reviewers that try too much to be reviewers become destroyers. How many here would love to own this Bravia 8...

[@henfibr]

They just say that many here should buy a cheaper alternative for the same or better picture quality (or features). The issue here is the price for the product (2.5k) compared to other products in the same category, not the product itself.

[@gallynuts]

I have the 65”

[@bleachedwhale]

Their points are all legitimate. If you've already made up your mind to buy a Sony OLED, just get last year's flagship while it's available. They praised the heck out of that model for good reason.

[@MrKomninakis]

@@bleachedwhalewhich model is their flagship?

[@MetalMike56]

@@MrKomninakis Sony A95L. Significantly more expensive though.

[@willsmith9233]

I have the Bravia 8 and I’m blown away by it, I had been in the market for a while, had the LG G3 but this Sony is hands down a clear winner. Whatever we are watching we find ourselves saying Wow, even at the commercials. Now I’m no TV expert but I’m really enjoying my Bravia 8 and I’m pleased with my purchase. Would I buy it again, Yes, Yes! Thanks for your opinion though.

[@Jodez23]

Bravia 8 is not better than G3. It's much dimmer so less impactful in image dimensionality.

[@willsmith9233]

@@Jodez23 that’s your opinion and that’s ok. That’s why there are many TVs out there for each pair of eyes is different.

[@user-pu2ro8ok3r]

Sony Bravia 8 used LG woled panels from C3 series

[@salesfocus6270]

​@@user-pu2ro8ok3rpanel isn't the full picture. Processing is the artist and that's hugely responsible for the picture.

[@FamilyAvila-ix6pf]

These people have no clue. The Bravia 8 is legit. I have the 77 and the game mode is where it’s at for sure. Brightness is beyond adequate. Only thing I wish they would have included are the other sensors my a90j has.

[@chamsozagoug5698]

❤

[@roedevilla]

Check🎉

[@clojap]

The gaming stuff cracks me up, nobody notices that input lag unless they are a competitive gamer and they are probably playing on a monitor. I don't even put my tv in game mode and it has input lag in the 80's and I have no problems lol

[@Sedge86]

My set for some reason didn't auto game mode the other day and hell yes it was noticeable. And I'm only playing Starfield ATM. 80ms is most certainly noticeable.

[@clojap]

@@Sedge86 I have been gaming since the atari 2600. If you aren't playing competitive online games I doubt u can tell. I play fighting games online and have no issues. If it mattered that much I would lose every round

[@Sedge86]

@@clojap some people are sensitive to latency, some (yourself) aren't. Some people can play 30fps, some people can't stand it. Some people will play at 720p, come people won't. Welcome to the real world

[@clojap]

@@Sedge86 I understand that but when you are talking about the difference between the LG, Sony and Samsung tv's in game mode it's not something anyone is going to feel. The 30fps vs 60fps stuff is much more noticeable but even then most people get used to it after a few minutes.

[@johnjordan7232]

According to a person called Kelvin. Like, I'm guessing he goes by Kelvin & their pronouns; Nits/contrast Bombshell; It's an OLED not the Brightest TV out there. Riiiiight... Two of HDMI are non inclusive & non equitable for all you Sony dudes Try this: if you want to watch 2.1 HDMI hfr content on 2 of the HDMI inputs...You can't. But if you lurve Sony Oleds try a €$10 repeater RTings why? For full disclosure I must say your TV data shots are good

[@robertmacdonald345]

I won't buy SONY anymore, I had issues with my Sony TV OUT of the Box. 1) Bubble you could feel on the screen when wiping it off. All I got from Sony Support??? " Does it interfere with your TV Viewing ? " The Next issues were the Remote,2) The volume Button Sticked on the One that came with the TV When I called Sony That took 3 months just to get them to send me another one And that was Like Pulling Teeth. Then the One they sent me the Mic didn't work. So I called Sony Back and told them that problem and they refused to send me a replacement, I was told That they didn't Make a Remote for that model TV. I sent Pictures of Both Remotes that say SONY right on the Bottom, I was then told that was an Aftermarket remote. So I said to them So You are selling After Market remotes with your NEW TV's. That was the end of the Conversation. Couldn't even get to Higher command, AKA CEO

[@satanicmonkey666]

You are delusional. You think they are going to put you in contact with Sony's CEO over a tv remote? Lmao. Also, did it affect your viewing experience? It's a valid and reasonable question. If when the TV is on, you don't see it, then it doesn't matter.

[@sammy10001]

Dude, you are low IQ. Seek brain improvement

[@robertmacdonald345]

@@satanicmonkey666 When you have to go through what I went through then Higher command ( Whoever That might Be ) is required. So Tell Me You buy a new Car, there is a Bubble in your paint, You let the Dealer Know and All you Get : Does it Interfere with Your Driving? " Then your First Remote The Alarm Button Sticks, You go through hell and High water to get another remote, That one The Alarm turns off but now that one Won't lock your Doors, You try support again and get no where, and The Support /Dealer Just won't help you, Where do you Go then, Let me Guess THE HEAD OFFICE??? Am I right or Wrong?

[@robertmacdonald345]

When you BUY a BRAND NEW UNIT then there will BE .001 Deference's as it is BRAND NEW, and it comes with Support whatever that might be. Now if the Item is Bought from a Refurbished dept. Then I will throw you a Bone and Say, The customer will have to accept Some Usage issues. When you Pay good Money for a product you are BUYING NO Issues, but if their is and the Product is In Warranty ( Out of The Box for me ) then That is what support is for. It's part of the Purchase.

[@ryans413]

What are you taking about bubble was the LCD screen bubbling was there a physical bubble you could touch. The remote thing if the buttons are sticking you probably got dirt down in the remote you could have taken the remote apart and cleaned it or a simple Amazon search you could have bought a replacement. I don’t think you were being very clear about the screen thing you said bubble you have to be more clear did you take a picture of it or a video to send off and show Sony you took pictures with the remote why not the tv as well. Did you buy extra warranty if there’s a defect take it back to the store you bought it at if the screens doing weird things the warranty well cover a screen replacement or another tv. I’m not saying you’re not allowed to be upset but before blaming a company why not try these steps first.

[@eric3672]

Rtings bought and paid for reviews, so Sony doesn't pay so they get shafted... Rtings=Invalid

[@RTINGSdotcom]

For what it's worth, our reviews are based on objective test results and the units we test are all purchased ourselves. It's important to us that our experience matches that of the average user, so we leave no room for brands to be able to impact the work that we do!

[@Quantum_TV]

Not going QD-OLED was a fail for sony. Year after year we all tell them their ports are limited. Calibration wise they always pin white balence across all formats on a given hdmi port. This makes it impossible to calibrate more than one format per hdmi port, further lowering its value. I'd just go on a payment plan for the A95L. Because atleast that picture is significantly better. I hated the nod at elden ring but another fair review.

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

🎉well said 😊

[@thawhole9]

The A80L is a no-brainer choice over this model

[@drunkhusband6257]

Not really given this one is brighter, more color volume and most important for gaming much lower input lag.

[@burd7455]

That TV is so dim.

[@thawhole9]

@@burd7455 I'm looking at it right now in my living room with 4 windows. Looks great

[@trewright1482]

The S90 series is far superior

[@thawhole9]

@@drunkhusband6257 you must be drunk. All of those points you've laid how are subjectively noticable, some reviewers even stating "perceived" brightness increase. But really I stand by my original claim due to cost difference. None of those things you reference justify the $1500-2000 increase in asking price.

[@jayallen7368]

who really cares about gaming on a tv. I just want to know how it looks for movies . Is the a80l better or is this better i have a really old panasonic zt60 tv still going with some burn in now. I looking to get into 4k tv and oled to see what a difference it would be compared to plasma

[@RTINGSdotcom]

A lot of people care for gaming, just like a lot of people care for movies! There's no one perfect TV for everyone since everyone has their own preferences 🙂

[@randallsmith2521]

Up until a few months ago I sold Sony TVs on the weekends in Best Buy. I can tell you that gaming is a huge focus for TVs now. I was able to sell several 43" X80Ks because they were the most reasonably priced 43" TV that supported VRR. Typically RTings rates the LG C series OLED better than the Sony Peer of the same year. It almost always comes down to price and gaming performance. With that being said, looking at the RTings reviews of the C4 vs the Bravia 8, I would prefer the Sony. Reason being that Sony still does a better job in upscaling. I watch a ton of older content, much of it not remastered to 1080p or 4k. It just looks better on the Sony TV.

[@jayallen7368]

@@randallsmith2521 I went to best buy but they did not have sony at the store i went to . the first was 1/2 hour away the next closes is 1hr and half away . I really want to find a store with sony tvs to look at.

[@DevionSims]

I wish Sony would stop with that terrible back panel design. So cheap looking.

[@sonic_genesis]

Its design like that to mount TV easier.

[@DevionSims]

@@sonic_genesis still doesn't make it look good lol.

[@6rban100k]

You don’t see it if you mount it on a wall

[@DevionSims]

@@6rban100k yes true...but it's unappealing. That's all I'm saying. Lol compared to the Sony a1e.. That was a beautiful TV

[@ryans413]

I like it

[@Frostbite351]

Sony 2023 x95l still a beast against new tvs

[@falsehope5529]

@@Frostbite351 beats the Bravia 7 for me so yeah definitely stands its own

[@teslacybertruck750]

Samsung won this year

[@thenonexistinghero]

The contrast isn't infinite at all, that's straight up a bald faced lie. OLED does not have infinite contrast. The contrast is limited by the blackness of the panels themselves and the panels are far from perfect black. Infinite contrast is nothing more than marketing bs.

[@sonic_genesis]

It’s recommended to watch OLED in a dark room..

[@thenonexistinghero]

@@sonic_genesis Doesn't make it any less of a bald faced lie. And it's poorly defined anyhow. Because with something like the Bravia B9, the screen is just as inky black to the human eye as any OLED outside of a few situations that are really pushing it (such as a starry sky against a perfectly black backround).

[@ther3alkrino191]

Bro just say you are poor! It is ok!

[@chibbyylol]

It’s only coined infinite because contrast ratio is the (brightest white / darkest black) in luminance and if the luminance of the darkest black is 0 then you see where the issue is (dividing by 0) Maybe it’s better to say contrast is ‘immeasurable’ but that wouldn’t sound as cool

[@thenonexistinghero]

@@chibbyylol And I'm saying that's a complete lie. OLEDs do not have 0 luminance (or 0 nits for that matter) and the contrast is perfectly measurable. There used to be articles on this, but it seems like they've been buried deep down and hard to find now thanks to the OLED lobbying companies. And professional channels like this also used to mention it, but now they've fully bought into the lie (or have been brainwashed into believing it).

[@mgtow1562]

No 8K No sale....Especially for the price you are paying.....

[@ryans413]

There’s no 8K content so I don’t know why you are upset

[@falsehope5529]

@@mgtow1562 lol rather have an oled than overpriced miniled

[@racineurr.8924]

Better wait until 52K tvs go on sale...