SONY FX30 vs BMPCC6K | Camera comparison

[@matteobertoli]

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[@Dbj5555555]

Closer and closer to film days where it’s all about the lens and not so much about the box it’s attached to.

[@cmorellato]

This is just how every comparison video should be made. Thank you so much for this content :)

[@BanderaFilmsAndMusic]

Awesome video. I love what the FX30 does to the skin; it's just beautiful. I actually thought Cam B was going to be the Blackmagic one, but I was happily surprised.

[@marcinfilip7405]

Same thing. Whole video only 1 time i liked A more. Everything else i liked B, and was sure B would be Blackmagic. Good that i have not pulled the triger on it yet!

[@BanderaFilmsAndMusic]

@Heloisa Fonseca Maybe, to you.

[@AdamSpade]

I felt the same. That FX30 is beautiful.

[@BanderaFilmsAndMusic]

@@AdamSpade it is.

[@THISISMARLOWFILMS]

@heloisafonseca6995not really I liked B a lot more too

[@matteobertoli]

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[@UrosGuitar]

Excellent comparison, Matteo. I preferred the the look of A (as expected the BM 6K).

[@kylehessling2679]

It was almost impossible to really tell until the sun/ocean shots! I thought it would be a lot easier to see, but it goes to show that a good post production treatment can make any camera with a 10 but log profile look good! But the highlight rolloff is where no one can touch Blackmagic…it is just SO MUCH SMOOTHER! This is why I’m scared to clip anything on Sony so that I have more highlight to work with. Thankfully shadows recover well, but on my bmpcc I don’t have to worry close to as much!

[@Arvidje]

throw in a old canon c100 mark 2.. u will be suprized by the look of that.. i will bet everyone will choose that one in almost every shot.. the roll off is still amazing.. and indoor those cams are realy shine

[@4wdflying]

Cam B was slightly more red most noticeable in skin tones throughout, in general a more flattering skin colour than the greenish tones of Cam A even if reality was maybe somewhere in between the two.

[@chemcgoldrick9027]

I was able to tell by the second clip which one was the black magic solely based of the colours it was producing

[@jennifergala]

This video proves one thing. In the hands of a professional any camera is amazing. Amazing results from both cameras. BRAW is a huge advantage that Blackmagic has. I like the form factor of the Sony more.

[@flipnap2112]

BMPCC just has that "look", I love it

[@AllThingsFilm1]

They looked pretty close to me. I've shot with the BMPCC4K. Now, I have the FX30. I've been happy with both systems.

[@marcinfilip7405]

If you were to buy now, first cam, which would it be now?

[@rafael_daguerre]

Understanding the limits of KZbin testing and compression, as you pointed out, it was still an interesting test. I confess that I guessed in a short time which camera was which. BM's image is different. Here at 1:34 I saw that the BM was Cam A. What I found interesting is that the BM seemed sharper to me. Sony even in backlight seems to "create" light 5:37. Sometimes it can be good, sometimes not. Both cameras are excellent. If I could choose, I would choose BM. That's the kind of difference from the BM that I like 7:04. Thanks for the comparative test. I could add to this test the Fuji X-H2S, which seems to be an excellent camera also within this price range.

[@BeierFilms]

As usual with most recent shoot-outs, I'm amazed how similar the images are. I often flip-flopped between which camera I liked more from shot to shot and I could have never picked them apart when matched like this. We really are coming to a place where all cinema cameras are more alike than they are different (at least as far as the general image quality is concerned). It's a start contrast to the early 2010s when you could easily pick out what was shot on an Alexa or a Red. It's also interesting to note that the FX30 is advertised as having an extra stop of dynamic range but it feels like the BMPCC6k handled the sunset better.

[@Magmafire]

@2:51 the blur quality gives away this is the BMPCC6K. There seems to be a magenta shift in the Sony footage, or at least to my eyes, in a few scenes. Did anyone else notice this?

[@nicholasboule5134]

cam b was just a nicer feeling when watching the shots

[@McarthurBeard]

Once I saw the rolling shutter test I knew which camera was which

[@Llater]

Thanks for the comparison you are the best !! ! I prefer B in my eyes is more cinematic less sharpness ,I thought B was BMPCC6K what a surprise !!!

[@rectape]

I tought B was BM because of the softer look. Crazy

[@videomakerlucasw2878]

I'm too. Damn, i'm wrong

[@dpixvid]

Supposedly there’s less in camera sharpening on the FX-30

[@EstudioAndante]

BMPCC all the way. for me. Love the round flare of the 28mm. Unique.

[@qapturenlfilms]

I preferred Cam A cause it looks more true but I can see why people would prefer Cam B because of the vibrance and sharpness if the image. Quite fun to watch those comparisons, thanks Matteo.

[@KeshavWho]

Loved the concept of comparison bring more such comparisons in future I subscribed you for this . The video packaging is the best so far I have seen all comparisons on KZbin

[@AlonsoArayaAudiovisual]

Both camera images look so good and comparable. Don't see major differences in color tones as it did in older models Sony and BMPCC models. The rolling shutter effect was worse on the BMPCC, that was a surprise for me. I've seen terrible skewed shots in the FX30. Thank you for the camera comparison. For the buck, the FX30 seems as a good option.

[@matteobertoli]

Keep in mind, this is KZbin. Imo the difference is massive. Download the master file and you’ll see for yourself :)

[@elvinsontaveras7125]

@@matteobertoli in favor of which friend?

[@Mr_Kenneth]

Many thanks Matteo. Both are excellent cameras and deliver outstanding results. I love my 6K Pro but do like the Sony's form factor. However for usability and speed, it's hard to beat the Pocket.

[@MyMegaTasks]

I just sold my a7c and got the bmpcc 4k had to rig it out to fix battery and a good ssd, it weighs 3kg hows blackmagic better for usability and speed? Cause so far except color science im regretting the purchase cause i dont want to take it anywhere with me

[@THISISMARLOWFILMS]

fx30 easily beats the 6k if you're bringing up usability and speed

[@DollyRanch]

Oh no. I greatly preferred the FX30 but perhaps because the exposure was slightly moodier in a number of shots. Well, my bias has been blown to bits

[@MrGreen-ci2mm]

My brotha Matteo, I'm back from the pandemic, alive and well. I see u still making beautiful shots hein

[@rodprod8522]

the skin tones are very nicely balanced in both images - there is a slight green shift on cam A in some of the images (or perhaps magenta in Cam B). You can see a big difference in the blue of the jeans on the sofa shot where Cam B has more of a magenta shift - it is hard to know which is more accurate to the original image - On the stream shot that follows the greens are more vibrant on Cam B Despite small differences all images look lovely and are highly usable - nice comparison!

[@catlitter1012]

The rolling shutter of the Blackmagic truly breaks my heart. It would be my perfect camera but that's a such a big drawback. Immediately throws you off the beautiful image, if you pan too quickly.

[@matteobertoli]

I filmed a mercedes commercial on it and never had any issues. Of course you won’t pan like that in a real life situation 😂

[@noxtrom]

Tough choice. BM has better highlights roll-off and Blackmagic Raw. Sony has top-notch autofocus and great choices of glass. As long as the story and final product is good, no one cares what camera you used. At the end they will ask: What did you use?

[@simplelightmedia]

its crazy how the FX30's image is on par with the 6k but KZbin compression is playing a major role in that.

[@matteobertoli]

Yep because it hides the crazy noise in the fx30 shadows.

[@maiigophotography]

I think it would be crazy if it didn't considering the price and how new the camera is.

[@OlofBerggren]

Cam A looked more neutral, a bit warmer? Did some shooting in Portugal a year ago and indeed the red tones from the sun was there. Cam B had a heavy green cast and more noise to it even when it has YT compression

[@MrPashee]

Very close! But Cam A is slightly better ;-) I have both of them and I think they're both perfect. FX30 for run and gun, BMPCC6KPRO for thoughtful staging, commercial and cinema.

[@justin_sanchez_]

I'm looking to upgrade my gear soon, so this video is very useful. Personally, I prefer the look of CAM A (the BMPCC6K). It looks more cinematic to me, especially in the shadows. CAM B has a harsh look to it, overly digital. I think the grading helps CAM B out a bit, but, in my book, it's still a big win for CAM A.

[@scotey]

If you light and compose properly, the BMPCC6K can hang with nearly any camera under $5-6K. The convenience features are where it's lacking (auto-focus, IBIS, low-light-performance, weight, ergonomics, etc.). It's a cinematographer's camera. The FX30 is a KZbin creator's camera. :)

[@justin_sanchez_]

@@scotey Thank you for the heads up! I think I'm sold on the 6K then.

[@scotey]

@@justin_sanchez_ To be clear, a talented cinematographer can make beautiful images with either one. But if you don't need the convenience features, the BM yields a superb image for the money. And the menu system is amazing.

[@jsleger3404]

(I copied past my comment because I'm lazy) : I have a Pocket 6k Pro an I bought a FX3 & FX6 recently. First of all, yes the Sony cameras are convenient that's true, but I'm not impressed by the image quality (coming from the Blackmagic). With the Blackmagic it was love at first sight (the image quality blew me away!); with the Sony, not at all (I'm always thinking "oh this shot would have been much better on the P6K Pro)..And yes like people say, the image feels much more "digital", like it has artificial sharpness (even with the option turned all the way down). So I don't know if I made a mistake to buy the Sony's, I bought them when I want to be quick as possible (for run n gun shoots). But I don't know, I don't feel the passion like before when I was shooting with the Blackmagic. I choosed to listen all the KZbinrs and here I am...I think people nowadays tend to choose a camera for the ease of use and forget that the viewer doesn't care if you struggle to get the shot without af, or if you are happy because the files are small, your camera is light, etc,...they just want the best story and the best image quality.

[@Rsp42]

@@jsleger3404Viewers don’t care about image quality, content is still king. Most popular stuff on social media is shot on phones. Hire a cinematographer for your projects, most cameras these days are good enough. Stop fanboying over cameras and focus on a good story, audiences are not there to pixel peep and drool over your images.

[@AndyLSB]

the FX30 was the B cam really ? that looked more "filmic" honestly, I SWORE the P6K was the B cam, even for skin tones, it looks In my opinion a hair better on B which is surprising to me, being an FX30 owner I had to work very carefully on a corrective lut for horrible yellowish/green tint on the Skin tones, very very interesting video Matteo, and obviously great shots ! It would be nice if you ever get the chance to test the GH6, I own it too and love it and feel that camera would match the P6k very nicely.

[@j43l35]

Came to the comments section to check whether I was alone or not - this is exactly what I thought too! The skin tones, and also the added detail and softness in some of the shadows, plus liked the colors more. I had to replay the end again because I was sure I had misread cam B as the FX30.

[@nicholasboule5134]

I also agree, and I own the p4k and thought I loved the 6k look but seeing how bad the rolling shutter really is im good off that thing.

[@eldricarpilleda]

I love my bmpcc6k. I was so sure B is the bmpcc6k footage until I saw the sun's dynamic range in the sunset scene. I want both now.

[@johntimothy315]

I have a simple method for working out which is the blackmagic - I look at the greens. If they're properly green rather than tinted yellow, it's not the black magic. And I really, really wish this wasn't so, because I need a camera for an upcoming green screen shoot, and in every other respect the bmpcc6k is the best camera to choose, but from past experience using the 4.6k Ursa I know that yellow bias will make it so much harder to separate the background from certain paler skin tones; any motion blur and it literally becomes impossible. I know, I've been there tearing my hair out trying to pull a good key. However, this looks a lot better than the old Ursa so it's possible the colour science has improved.

[@csound55]

To me green colour produced by Sony camera sensors doesn't look natural - over saturated and plastic looking to my eyes.

[@johntimothy315]

@@csound55 I agree! Always hated Sony colours, but they do help with keying!

[@videotuotannot2693]

Even easier if you look at the teals and blues - Sony always pushes them a bit towards magenta/purple. It's visible in all shots but especially the jeans at 2:23, massive difference.

[@RubenStuveling]

I agree about the greens, this was exactly my method to determine which is the Blackmagic haha. This was graded through a LUT, if you transform the Blackmagic footage through a CST to R709 it has much better greens.

[@AutoFOCUSED.]

I'm surprised the rolling shutter is so much worse on BMPCC.

[@ShizzBeatsmusic]

Clip @ 6:53 is so clean. Could you share that clip or show you false color because my bmpcc6k at these settings with my sigma 18-35 or tokina 11-16 would have been super noisy. I’m thinking I have bad sensor…

[@popcorndreamsmedia]

I do much prefer the look of the pocket 6k over the fx30 however there is a weird compression in between the blacks and the greens when the EI is lower. I have had this issue before with black-magic colour science on very contrasts images.

[@Alex__Williams]

I could just about tell which one was which, but they both look great!! Thanks for this comparison!

[@leongachuiri3626]

Every frame I was like B and crossing my fingers for B not to be Blackmagic. And to my wonderful surprise B was Sony Fx 30. This was very informative.

[@jsleger3404]

I have a Pocket 6k Pro an I bought a FX3 & FX6 recently. First of all, yes the Sony cameras are convenient that's true, but I'm not impressed by the image quality (coming from the Blackmagic). With the Blackmagic it was love at first sight (the image quality blew me away!); with the Sony, not at all (I'm always thinking "oh this shot would have been much better on the P6K Pro)..And yes like people say, the image feels much more "digital", like it has artificial sharpness (even with the option turned all the way down). So I don't know if I made a mistake to buy the Sony's, I bought them when I want to be quick as possible (for run n gun shoots). But I don't know, I don't feel the passion like before when I was shooting with the Blackmagic. I choosed to listen all the KZbinrs and here I am...I think people nowadays tend to choose a camera for the ease of use and forget that the viewer doesn't care if you struggle to get the shot without af, or if you are happy because the files are small, your camera is light, etc,...they just want the best story and the best image quality.

[@matteobertoli]

This is such a great comment! I have so many messages from people that switched from Blackmagic to Sony or Canon or Panasonic and they immediately regretted it. Yes, those cameras might be more convenient to use (still not 100% sure about that), but man, when you check your Pocket footage after a shoot, you feel something and you are proud of what you captured and that footage just has something magical to it. To me it’s day and night. I was thinking to get a FX30 as well, but after testing it out there is no way I could do that. As you said, I would always think: “imagine how it would have looked if shot on the Pocket”.

[@nicowieditz]

@@matteobertoli I absolutely agree with you. I tested the FX3 and my 6k, so in Post production it is so a big difference to work with both formats. Furthermore I tested The FX6 and FX9 against my BM 12K, so the BM was so amazing in filmic look, the Sony cameras stay digital. I have added to my BM cameras the Ronin 4D and film in PRO RES RAW. Actually we work on a convert to Cinema DNG to get all metadata usable in DVRS. Ronin 4D for customer purposes. In my opinion DJI Zenmuse X9 looks better than Sony.

[@OrecniS]

I spent the whole video thinking that the black magic was camera B, arriving at night and even having ctz that it was camera A

[@j.m.weaver]

If you expose perfectly and only post to KZbin or Instagram with fast turn around the FX30 wins, I think. If you want to make cinema quality and learn how to camera operate better the BMPCC 6K wins. Thanks very much for this video!

[@mnlc96]

Can you do a comparation between bmpcc6k and s5 ii?

[@matteobertoli]

If I find one in Portugal I will :)

[@OrecniS]

am i the only one who thought the fx30 is a fujifilm x-t4 in a sony body?

[@RumleKjaer]

Its the more orange greens revealed the sony, and the yellows in the shadows of blackmagic in the last frame. wow they look similar. would you pick the FX30 over the A7S III?

[@matteobertoli]

If I can only choose between those two I would still pick the a7s iii. Better rolling shutter and cleaner shadows. But for my line of work neither of those cameras.

[@georgefromgreece4119]

​@@matteobertoliagreed

[@-austinsmith]

Both cameras are great, the giveaway is in the HL. BMPCC6K is my fav. Thank you for this video.

[@jakob6370]

Exactly the video I needed rn, thank you very much

[@ARSimovie]

CAM 1 BEST! LIKE FOR YOU WORK👍

[@aethersuperfluid]

Amaizing stuff man! Thank you for doing this. Pocket 6K all day 🙌👌😎

[@Miniaminism]

Lovely skintones on the left, some heavy noise on pushed shadows More sharpness / digital looking on the right but cleaner shadows. Took me time but got them right in my head. Cool test Matteo, thanks you.

[@martiniyaji]

The BMPCC had more dynamic range and a better highlight rolloff for sure. However I don't see the huge difference others are seeing. Both rendered beautiful images with those leica lenses.

[@matteobertoli]

Yep, KZbin compression does a good job hiding issues :)

[@martiniyaji]

@@matteobertoli Will you be uploading on Vimeo? Will be interesting to view a better quality version of the comparison

[@matteobertoli]

@@martiniyaji no, but I will probably make the master file available for download

[@d.edwardsfreelanceeditorvi4212]

yep same here. Not a big difference from what I can tell. Cam A did seem to have a little green in the skin tones to me. Maybe the master files tell a better story.

[@AltCine]

The Blackmagic brown tinge is always a dead giveaway.

[@matteobertoli]

Pocket 6k has zero brown tint. You are referring to the Pocket 4K.

[@AltCine]

@@matteobertoli can definitely see it here Matteo, In the hair, skin and even the sky. Some people might call it warm but to me it's just a brown tinge. I'm not saying I hate it though or your footage is bad....as a basic test they both look great..it was just easy for me to spot.

[@DrWNoLs]

@@AltCine He's a bit arrogant. I've noticed he doesnt take criticism or objective points well. Nothing personal though, cheers to both of you.

[@cinestillsamurai]

So close but the quality of life features on the sony are just something bmd can't offer, so it kinda just boils down to that. Image is excellent on both of these.

[@matteobertoli]

6K 50p internal RAW, real 13 stops dynamic range, free Resolve, closest color science to Arri on the market, false colors, for $2,000. What features are you talking about exactly?

[@levihint]

Do you have a vimeo account ? would love to see this footage without the youtube compression !

[@leosylver7]

The only positive I can take from Sony is its auto focus capability especially as a one man band filmmaker..

[@matteobertoli]

I think we should stop talking about autofocus and one man band filmmakers like if the two things were related. I work quite a lot by myself and I never used AF and never will. If you want to call yourself filmmaker/cinematographer and if you are seriously thinking of becoming a pro, you should learn how to pull your focus. Of course if you have a cooking channel on KZbin and you have to film yourself, yes that’s useful, but then you are not a cinematographer, you are a cook :)

[@Aggyoko]

@@matteobertolif you want to call yourself a cinematographer, you should shoot on film not digital. This is all silly talk artsy people engage in. At the end of the day, it’s about the result and happy clients, however you choose to achieve it is up to you. If you don’t like autofocus, don’t use it but don’t degrade people who do as not “pro” or a filmmaker. That’s bullshit!

[@DavidWagelmans]

Would love to see a comparison against the c70 😀

[@Ed_Scott]

This!

[@ColorfieldMedia]

As usual, great video. The better highlight rolloff is so obvious on the 6K. The Sony highlights are very harsh to my eyes.

[@cryptokingz615]

What is your favourite to use Matteo? Great video as always!

[@foaly8]

FX30 was great on anything but the backlit stuff. Did you record in raw with the P6K?

[@MinisterTravis]

Wow! I thought Cam B was the BM. I preferred can b the whole way through!

[@vaniaaprillia9495]

Cam B is Sony

[@3Six9Ent]

best camera comparison ever ...

[@giulianogirelli]

ciao Mat, bm top but ...I'm pleasantly surprised by the softness I see on sony, have you touched the color profile ?

[@matteobertoli]

No stesso non ho toccato nulla. In realtà sembra un po blurred. Specialmente nelle ombre, che è dove fa veramente fatica. La 6K è più nitida, ma è una bella nitidezza data dal sensore 6K, non dall’over sharpening tipico delle mirrorless. Purtroppo su KZbin la Sony se la giocherebbe pure con un Arri 😂 poi quando guardi il girato al computer è un’altra storia

[@giulianogirelli]

@@matteobertoli si immagino la differenza in originale sia molto più evidente, qui anche c'è ma non stratosferica a mio modo di vedere. come dici tu, il rimaneggio di youtube è crudele 🙂

[@evanthecameraman]

Wow. So I genuinely watched the video about halfway not sure but favoring Camera A. As a Blackmagic user it just looked so familiar. Once the ocean scene where the sun reflected off the water came up, I was very happy to see Camera A highlight roll off and was at that point 99% sure it was Blackmagic. Skipped ahead to the night shots and the big reveal. Ta da! BMPCC is awesome!

[@river718]

I couldn’t watch the entire video, but from what I saw, Camera A for the win…

[@pedrokriya]

bmpcc always 😍 but sony has improved a lot!

[@Kframevideo]

FX30 looks much more digital and has a lot more noise and a lot less details in the dark parts than BMPCC.

[@chipmunk2440]

I think it’s an exaggeration to say it looks “much more” digital. Objectively speaking, they were super close to one another, and this is coming from a BM fanboy. No regular Joe would be able to tell the difference.

[@georgefromgreece4119]

​@@chipmunk2440 agreed

[@sitebstudios]

Great comparison. Still proving the BMPCC6K can compete and outperform brand-new cameras. It's a real future-proof tool.

[@nordfresse]

Well it does have a higher resolution and a RAW codec so not that surprising really...

[@homefor-xs1kl]

I really needed a good B cam and on the basis of this im choosing sony Fx30 . Its simple . Lens choice and all footages looks really similar .

[@earnieboy54]

I thought they both looked good. Almost identical minus some sharpness from the Sony. But overall, they both looked incredible.

[@zakariaabed3593]

I could easily tell that the cam2 is bmpcc because of the highlight roll off the and colors it has that cinematic look

[@ajbres]

Brilliant video Matteo! Almost felt disheartened as I thought for sure CAM A was the fx30 because of the sharpness and was blown away when I saw the rolling shutter shot. I was like, 'nah, it couldn't be!'. Really thought it was game over for my bmpcc6k but now that I've seen this I actually wanted to get a 1/8 glimmerglass to retain eye sharpness but create even better fall off. This just confirmed that as CAM A is better than B, just could do with a slightly less sharp look. One question, what format did you record both and what was your export settings?

[@matteobertoli]

The cool thing about the 6K is that is naturally sharp. It’s a very good sharpness, not that super digital oversharpening that you see in mirrorless cameras. To be honest I was quite surprised at how soft some Sony shots were, even when perfectly in focus. That 6K sensor is really special. Shot the top codec on the sony (can’t remember, too many names) and braw 8:1 on the Pocket. Exported a prores 422 hq 4k

[@matthewhartman7176]

Shoot vintage glass and develop a good post-production method to mitigate edge sharpness. It's obtainable without too much fuss. There will be no need for expensive filters. None. And your acquisition will be far less destructive as a benefit.

[@admworldent]

Love the footage. What’s the background music?

[@lucariccidj]

What’s the codec on both camera ? Thank you for the test

[@pinmag]

I love your channel but I’m late to the iso 800 party can you pleaseeeew enlighten me

[@CesarHernandezPT]

It surprises me how I start to identify a BMPCC, at least the BMPCC6K :) without knowing it was the Cam A, especially in the sky and harsh light.

[@xXxAmadeuzxXx]

I have a bmpcc 6k. Do you think this sony will be a good B cam?

[@matteobertoli]

Not really. I would get another Blackmagic

[@kenkazuto6277]

Do BUTTERY LUTs work on final cut pro?

[@matteobertoli]

Yep

[@___._.__._._._._..__.._]

Is this a comparison of the cameras or more like a demonstration of colomatching capabilities of the Buttery family of LUTs across different camera systems though? The former would aim to emphasize differences whereas the latter would aim to emphasize lack of differences.

[@matteobertoli]

The reason why I use that LUT is because it kinda gives you a very very close starting point. If I had to use the Sony LUT and the BM LUT, you would have think that that was how the cameras looked and it would have been terrible and completely different from each other. Is that fair? I don’t think so. In facts Sony footage with BUTTERY looks like a completely different camera compared to the Sony LUT. That’s the problem. Sometimes people are not aware of this, they trust the manufacturers LUT and they think oh, that’s what the camera is capable of. Doing this I basically show you the best Rec709 conversion possible, but you still see the differences, because there are quite a bit of them, but unfortunately they get lost with gamma shift and KZbin compression.

[@___._.__._._._._..__.._]

Thank you Matteo

[@twmedia-film]

The 6K has better images no dobut. Is it worth sacrificing stabilisation, AF and photo possibilities tho?

[@matteobertoli]

sacrificing? I never used those features in my 12 years career. Those are youtuber features, not something a cinematographer is interested in. But yes, if you are a photographer that occasionally shoot videos, get a Sony.

[@twmedia-film]

@@matteobertoli True though. I almost never shoot photos and always MF right now. But I feel like it would be tough to go whitout any stabilisation as a freelancer trying to work effectively?

[@jeffreyzarate8643]

Black Magic vs FX 30 Cuál escoger?

[@RobertoMorelli-Imagery]

Thanks for this great comparison! Very useful! Sony always looks digital more than Blackmagic. BM has more cinematic look anyway. Looking forward to seeing next video with your comments!

[@WinfordM]

The night shots gave it away for me. I thought B was the BMPCC until the night shots.

[@kolecava]

1:32 what an angle!

[@brianhawkins]

They are very similar. Not sure what all the Blackmagic guys are seeing to claim there's such a difference. I own both a BMPCC4K and an FX3 and I've never seen any advantage to the Blackmagic besides the excellent menu system.

[@matteobertoli]

If you don’t see a difference between h264 files and 16bit RAW files, I think there is a problem. You also need to know where to look. Not easy to spot many differences on KZbin (even if the roll-off gives it away a couple of times), but if you own both cameras and shot with both and never seen a difference well… 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@renaudguin1700]

@@matteobertoli The bmpcc is not 16 bit raw. they didn't told you ? but you can output 16 bit raw from the fx30 if needed matteo. cheers

[@Victor-Rojas]

I own the bmpcc4k and the fx30. The main difference I see is the softer highlight roll off on the pocket cam. I'm still happy with the image I'm getting with the fx30!

[@matteobertoli]

@@renaudguin1700 incorrect. BRAW is stored in 12bit and expanded to 16bit in DaVinci. With that said, there is no way in the world you can tell the difference between 12bit and 16bit, but you can tell the difference between super compressed h264 and prores, that’s for sure.

[@matteobertoli]

@@Victor-Rojas it’s a great camera if you are shooting in an “easy” lighting situation. If you start pushing the dynamic range, the shadows on the fx30 fall completely apart and get mushy and very noisy. Again, there is nothing strange with that, one is a cinema camera that records RAW files, the other one is a mirrorless that records h264. Only thing in common is the price. KZbin is not a good place to judge a camera, but I can tell you that once you open the footage in DaVinci on a 27” monitor, the differences are huge and if you can’t see them, you need to train your eye a little more

[@BarefootMediaTV]

wow i got it wrong. cant believe how similar they are. and cant believe i said the fx30 was.better:/

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Thanks for this... I have a relatively untrained eye but I did think A was slightly better and I did guess B was the FX30. This was great as I am going to change to Sony this year.

[@Lad11971]

I don't understand why BlackMagic is the only company that doesn't lie about dynamic range. so many people pick up cameras because they say 14+ stops then use that as a drawback for buying the pocket because it's 13 stops, but then you look at side-by-side footage and there is not a chance in hell you are getting 14+ stops of usable range out of sony unless you want to pay 10k+.

[@norfolknonsense7578]

Love the highlight rolloff on the BMPCC, however this alone does not always make it a more likeable image to me. The rolling shutter gave it away immediately it is just ridiculous on the BMPCC. Would be interesting to know if the highest possible codec/bitrate has been used on both cameras.

[@flipnap2112]

just a side note on the rolling shutter for the 6k pro. I found out something quite by surprise, the gyro stabilization in resolve removes most of the rolling shutter. I rarely ever use stabilization in resolve because I try to nail it in camera but just experimented and wanted to see what gyro stab looked like. I went out and purposely gave a lot of micro shakes. almost no rolling shutter. although you have to shoot high frame rate to avoid motion blur artifacts after stabilized. Then to get true MB back go into fusion and use two nodes.. optical flow and then vector motion blur. its a perfect solution.

[@joojosart7772]

Looks like the pyxis has actually more dynamic range then the manufacture said or Sony fx30 has less then they rell you 😅

[@matteobertoli]

@@joojosart7772 this is the BMPCC6K, not the Pyxis

[@joojosart7772]

@matteobertoli yeah misread that. It is still the same sensor as far as I know

[@leosylver7]

Special shout out to your wife, matteo, for contributing her time to help us.

[@matteobertoli]

🙏 seriously!

[@HYVIDSTUDIO]

소니 발전이 엄청나네 증말...ㄷㄷㄷㄷ

[@kazlepek6552]

That’s hilarious: I got it reversed .. I guess that goes to show you how nuanced the differences in image are

[@matteobertoli]

On KZbin. Yes

[@vadim001]

Сразу понял, что bm - cam A. Но, ночные сцены в конце ролика у сони понравились больше.

[@PeteNjagi]

Cam A!!! 6K All the way huh!?

[@MananaMan]

I'm super inexperienced but it looks like the FX30 is more dynamic but the BMPCC has more natural color representation

[@vaniaaprillia9495]

A is BMPCC B is SONY FX30

[@OskArt]

as I own the Bmpcc 6k I recognized it quickly and I have to admit that it looks better, but for my usecase I'm selling it for a fx30, because of the ease of use and portability. and I can live with that loss of quality, I can't without that flipout screen and the autofocus.

[@matteobertoli]

Invest in your future: learn how to pull focus. Thank me later

[@OskArt]

@@matteobertoli I know, but I'm mostly shooting myself, so it's hard to pull focus. but thanks :)

[@matteobertoli]

@@OskArt guess what? I mostly shoot by myself and never use AF. It’s not rocket science and it’s one of the main skill a camera operator should have. Besides that, it’s also an important story telling tool, as important as framing, camera movements and exposure.

[@nordfresse]

I would consider the X-H2s instead, since you will still be able to record in Prores or even BRAW on that.

[@jsleger3404]

@@matteobertoli facts!

[@OtayMedia]

Both look great. The main difference that I noticed was the skin tones and I would still pick the Pocket solely for that reason. I noticed the magenta tone in the skin and that’s case with Sony cam’s ever since they fixed those ugly green/yellow tones. The Pocket has the green tint that I prefer and it doesn’t look weird. Other than that I noticed the DR was slightly wider with the FX30 so that was another giveaway for me.

[@csound55]

If you look closely at the sunset shots it's obvious the BM 6K handles highlights way better. It's a bit hard to tell with whats happing in the shadows with youtube compression but I suspect in a controlled technical test the BM 6K will rate better for dynamic range.

[@JaniLahtinen]

Beautiful footage, excellent comparison. I guess I should be pleased that I preferred my camera (A) and not the camera I don't have 😅 I really was unsure which would be which, so this was exciting! And also, it seems like BM is leaning more to green, and Sony to magenta, maybe? And gamma curve a bit different. It would be interesting to see if they would be matched, would there be a huge difference. Also, BM seems to be way sharper. And do the CODECs play any role in this? Thanks, keep up the excellent work!

[@symparanekromenoi]

I thought CAM A was the Sony because it appeared much sharper. I like the softer look of the sony more

[@hanscamaleone2924]

The few differences that exist, if any, are so small that they are irrelevant.

[@PatrickMallett]

Leica R is the real winner here 🔥