Sony’s new $2,200 camera vs. an iPhone 14 Pro

[@TheVerge]

Who won for you.. ZV-E1 or iPhone 14 Pro? -becca

[@abhaythambi]

Zv -e1

[@Costycansnipe]

iPhone: whitewashed crap Sony: inky black shadows Ps: am not hater though, but I felt sony did something really impressive. I hate apple ngl, cuz of pricetag, also giving limited connectivity (cuz they are promoting apple ecosystem) and yes apple's ridiculous subscriptions

[@Alvin-Nukman]

Becca wins it all!

[@loslosbaby]

A7c w/G-Master 24-70??

[@zodiacfml]

thanks good job. no wonder that the reviews I saw never mention smartphones which is obviously the main competition. splurge on an iphone then plenty change left plus less e-waste.

[@damiadeniji]

Becca is currently one of my favourite reviewers. The way she blends storytelling and reviewing is a pleasure to watch.

[@metaforically]

She's awesome!!

[@ak_hoops]

THAT PART! More Becca please.

[@brownstone243]

Completely agree. It would be great if she had her own channel so I don't have to keep scrolling to find one of her reviews to watch.

[@MGA19a]

@@FirstnameLastname-gy4bz Why would that matter when watching tech videos ? 🙂

[@dn1150]

I couldn’t agree more. This subject in particular only half interested me, but I saw it was a Becca video and figured I’d watch and she killed it as usual.

[@Goalier95]

Becca's reviews are so informative and easy to understand as a non-pro video/photo user like myself. Great content!

[@nomanCyclewala]

i love the fact that you acknowledged that the iphone’s images and videos falls apart as soon as you take a closer look. most of the comparisons of these mirrorless cameras and iphones are just people comparing image thumbnails and painting a wrong picture of iphones being better. Also i think being on auto mode on a full frame camera and letting AI do the work is like an auto pilot on a supercar. you spend all that money to drive at below speed limit. but there is always the manual mode to take things in your own hand , which is a must if you get a dedicated camera.

[@borkborkbork]

I think for most people, a "closer look" isn't had as the point of consumption is social media. Especially after it's compressed to hell and back

[@nomanCyclewala]

@@borkborkbork yeah agreed. the compression is just something else.

[@hp6r]

Also the color and shadow rendering is so unreal from smartphones, you can tell when a picture or video comes from an iPhone because of the orange faces or warm profile with no shadows. I mean they are not the only ones guilty of this but usually people don't point on that.

[@navneet4938]

Exactly. The iPhone has a ton of post processing which imo doesn't really look nice. Not saying it is bad by any means but the sony is the way to go for professional use.

[@crafter505]

A better comparison is buying a sports car in auto instead of manual .

[@Frytech]

Becca about Sony ZV-E1: “It is the smallest full-frame camera you can buy right now”. Sigma FP/FP L: “Yeah, yeah. That’s right. F**k me”.

[@zacmorri]

i really loved that you mentioned the a7c at the end! i recently purchased it and was slightly tempted by the zv e1 but with hearing that you are still loving the a7c, that's enough for me to wait on the second generation of the zv e1

[@creator1a66]

if you are happy with 8bit video

[@jaymills1720]

@@creator1a66it’s great unless you need to do a lot of color grading.

[@Broba_Fett]

The A7C II is due to be released soon so maybe Sony will include some of the EV1's features for it.

[@evindrews]

What a great review. I love how different it is to reviews of other cameras, and really leans on the niche the camera sells itself towards. How does it compare to the a7c?

[@Qimchiy]

You're basically comparing an A7iii (A7C) to an A7Siii (ZV-E1). One is a better hybrid and one is a way better video camera.

[@volumefact]

The big benefit of the ZV-E1 is that it has 10-bit 4:2:2 color instead of the A7C's 8-bit 4:2:0, so it holds up much better to color grading and isn't as prone to color banding. Also higher slow mo frame rates at 4k, better rolling shutter, better low light, and a few other processor based improvements (Becca didn't touch on the ZV-E1's lossless digital zoom which is pretty cool). Main pros to the A7c is that it's 300 cheaper, better at avoiding overheating, and i think the body may be metal but not positive

[@RiceCubeTech]

@@volumefactthe A7C also has a larger megapixel count which helps when it comes to strictly photos. I would never buy the ZV-E1 if I did just as many photos as I did videos.

[@volumefact]

@@RiceCubeTech yeah, good call-out. Plus the A7c has an (admittedly not great) viewfinder. I was mainly thinking of things from a video perspective, which is almost entirely what I use my A7c for.

[@RiceCubeTech]

@@volumefact gotcha. I find them to be very different cameras geared towards different people. I think the A7Cii would be great, as it would likely have 10bit 4K 60 from the a7IV and Bette robotics than the ZVE1

[@truecuckoo]

Colours, picture, depth of field looks amazing. Thanks for a great video. A lot of other reviewers point out that it’s prone to overheating when shooting long videos though. That’s worth pointing out.

[@dexter_johnson]

Some channels have been showcasing this as a beginner camera for individuals “just getting started” - based on the price, I say just take out your phone.

[@harryvuemedia5106]

ZV-E1 is a vlogging camera dude. vloggers don't like to use their smartphone a lot rather they prefer a dedicated video camera. E1 offers better video quality and better autofocus along with your choice of lenses. Only you would take out your phone to record now.

[@KarlSainte]

At $2200 and no EVF can’t see who this is for. At that price and needing to spend more for a lens, the price is the main downside.

[@harryvuemedia5106]

@@KarlSainte dude, you seriously have no idea about cameras and their types. Sony said the ZV-E1 is for vloggers. You don't need an EVF when you're vlogging with the camera. And $2,200 usd for a camera that records in 4K/60fps, has 10-bit colors and is full-frame, you're still complaining about the price? Name me one full-frame vlogging camera that is cheaper than this E1? I'll wait.

[@OfirFatal]

Really appreciate Becca’s outstanding reviews. Thanks for the excellent story telling coupled with informative details!

[@R3endevous]

The verge should really cherish Becca. Her RX100 review is one of the reason why I still subscribe to The Verge.

[@TheVerge]

We do 😊 - Vjeran

[@TheOhFamily4]

Wow, this was one of the best review i've seen for the new ZV-E1 camera. Thank you!

[@stalman]

Great review! Regarding the vertical tools, I just want Sony to add open gate mode!

[@kenthan9388]

I don't care about cameras, at all, but I love watching/hearing Becca review them. She's just such a joy, but also super clear and informative. If I do ever get into photography, I feel like I'll be well equipped to make that first major purchase.

[@BoyarsMedia]

I love how your reviews always tell a story. I know this is for amateurs, but comparing rolling shutter between your trusty A7C might be a big consideration for crisply video.

[@GoodOleGrant]

@0:21 If I’m not mistaken the Sigma FP is still the smallest full frame sensor camera available on the market today.

[@DavidDeblaere]

I don't know what it is, but Becca just does it for me. Her reviews are so entertaining, stylish and with tremendous story telling. What a genius

[@LeviathanDesigner]

Amazing video. Engaged till the end. We are so lucky to have Becca to create all this great stuff ❤

[@soraaakash8360]

I don’t comment often on youtube. But this video made me. What a beautiful way to present everything. Becca is 💎.

[@TheVerge]

😊 feel free to comment more things like these! always a joy to read nice comments! - Vjeran

[@Vez3D]

I have both the A7C and the ZV-E1 .. both amazing.. Both have their pros and cons.. but wow the Zv-E1 video quality is way better. The dynamic range kills the A7C and the colors and everything else is just better. the ISO control etc.. Still the A7C is an awesome cam and I love both. Great review !! I like your content and you are amazing :) thanks for the video

[@ad84_71]

This person needs to make her own channel. We want more of her.

[@GordonChaffin]

She does have one! I hope Becca does more vlogging soon.

[@RockyMaiviaMiami]

She’s got one

[@zainal4384]

​@@GordonChaffin the name of the channel, please?

[@TarekAlShawwa]

0:23 it’s not the smallest full frame camera you can buy, the Sigma FP is

[@js312raf]

Sony RX1 is quite a bit smaller.

[@noenken]

Can't buy it anymore though. @@js312raf

[@seth_sesu]

Please do these videos in 60fps in the future. Would be great to see how these cameras compare there. I know many at The Verge are not fans of HFR but they're wrong 😅 Most people are trying to capture a sense of realism, not a film...

[@Jaronn]

what about battery? why is that not getting mentioned?

[@cristianmk]

I am so glad you´ve mentioned the A7C!!! It is an spectactular camera, despite not having 10 bit 4:2:2 color and S-Cinetone profile. I´ve loved every second using it (I´ve then graduated to an A7IV but the 7C remains in my heart).

[@dharmani_youtube]

how would you compare ZV-E1 to a7iv based on this review?

[@LashanR]

As an A7C owner this is incredible, but missing some of those photo centric features (like 24MP photos and EVF) that make me hope that the A7Cii is still in the pipeline, and not replaced by this

[@sarunkmv]

Will you upgrade when a7cii come out? Have you got any FW update in your current a7c?

[@jamskof]

you think its missing those? is a fishing rod missing a net?

[@sun-pb7xg]

Real camera systems are so flexible and never let you down focus bag on every time and the quality omg perfect in low light too

[@Lets-Take-Pictures]

I’m pretty sure “the smallest full frame camera you can buy right now” would be the Sigma FP or FP-L, with the Sony being the smallest with IBIS. This was a really good review though, the camera seems quite compelling, and it’s nice to see Sony taking on the smartphone market by incorporating more smart features. As far as the app goes: years back people hated Nikon’s SnapBridge app because it was buggy and awful. Now, being able to take a photo with my professional camera and then have it on my phone moments later, automatically and seamlessly, is one of my favorite things about the Nikon mirrorless lineup. Hopefully Sony will put in the work and get everything fixed up, given time.

[@js312raf]

No, Sony RX1 is quite a bit smaller.

[@collinsal1433]

Nothing will ever beat the feel of a real camera no matter how hard a company tries to put out these great camera lenses.

[@HenrikoMagnifico]

iPhone 15 Pro Max or A7C for travel photography and videos?

[@Pelzvire]

As a small creator myself who actually shoots with an iPhone 13 Pro, I really enjoyed the comparison points and the attention to detail. The only problem that I see is that a system like this probably still is way too inaccessible for a starting creator since you not only have to buy the $2000 camera body but also add a lens to it which greatly affects the image that you get out of the camera. And, as we know, those lenses can easily cost you as much or more than the camera body itself. Compared to an $1400 iPhone 14 Pro, even with a gimbal added into the calculation (roughly $200), most starting creators will probably be choosing this "deal" since it's just the smarter move. I would love to have a beautiful bokeh effect but its just not worth adding these extra dollars.

[@gclip9883]

To be fair, you don't need a full frame sensor to get those benefits. There are numerous cameras around the 1000-Dollar price point that can still offer benefits like image stabilization and fast auto-focus. Even with a 18-55 kit lens, you will get vastly superior footage compared to the iPhone. Then you can add some prime lenses later for improved image quality, or another zoom. Also, lenses can theoretically be used for decades, and even bodies often last for 10+ years. Because of that, there is a big used market for camera gear, which will give you even better prices. With 1400 dollars, you could have a decently new body with multiple lenses, and even a gimble if you want.

[@x2bvgft]

Add to that you need cost for computer for editing and mic and mixer....etc 9:54

[@michaelfotoshop]

I believe Becca is one of the best KZbinr out there reviewing camera / tech stuff. Informative and engaging at the same time. Keep up the good work Becca.

[@jamesprecious1035]

Great review Becca, and loved the creative on this. Fresh angle on the product and you found some facts that others missed. Great to see you up on the screen. Be well and keep the momentum.

[@jacobscheer2730]

Becca's story telling ability is top notch

[@geodude4real]

8:29 omg you had me thinking my screen was filthy!

[@aidanaeternum]

The sigma fp is still smaller, and also full frame. and cheaper... Just not packed with creature comforts. So those may be worth the extra 500 bucks for some people

[@TheKimNeeper]

It's the smallest IBIS Full Frame, but not the smallest Full Frame, the Sigma FP is far smaller...

[@Gamepunt_be]

I see a The Verge review by Becca in my feed and I just have to watch it. Her blending a well written review with a, often personal, story is just amazing. Also, her energy just always seems to make my day.

[@deanelliot4127]

Delightful review! Your humor and insightful comments are wonderful!

[@strikeformatik]

Isnt the Sigma FP the smallest fullframe camera available?

[@piewars12345]

Is the Sigma fp not the smaller of the two? Not that it's much smaller, but I think it still wins as smallest full-frame mirrorless. Could be wrong there. Otherwise this thing looks pretty awesome for content creators who need a compact camera that can do it all without additional accessories, which I wouldn't necessarily say about the fp.

[@js312raf]

No, Sony RX1 is quite a bit smaller.

[@Thul999]

Yeah, Sigma fp looks smaller to me, but would have to check the dimensions of both.

[@TE_-.-]

Hi, I also have the Sony a7c but I just can't use this camera for vlogging, the image stabilization is not good enough to get smooth shots, do you have any tips? I heard that you can get the giro data from the camera.

[@wesleychapman9001]

Just you all wait till the Canon R8 comes out. Even lighter, more mega pixels, full-frame as well, and so much more for just $1,500

[@joshua42777]

I normally do cosplay photography, my camera is so heavy that if I don't have a hotel room and I'm commuting, I just leave my camera at home.

[@drickzee]

With all the hype on KZbin about this camera, this is the best review I've watched, and Becca did all that in 11 minutes. Brilliant!!

[@DerbJd]

You ought to have used Filmic Pro on the iPhone to make it a fairer contest.

[@whenhen]

Your skin is so much more natural using the Sony camera. Question, have you tested the camera on darker skin people? I know the iPhone seriously struggles with skin tone reproduction, and would love to see how a good camera compares.

[@chepulis]

A solidly put together review.

[@uniworkhorse]

I forget that I'm watching an "industry pro" just because of the accessible energy Becca brings to her vids - I'm glad she's still on staff many years later!

[@tjthedogtrainer]

Great review as always! Lol that dynamic stabilization on a vlog focused camera really brings you back to their zv-1 roots and issue though. Face.

[@regolyth]

St. Patrick the patron saint of Scotland apparently 😂 Great video, super useful and informative btw 😊

[@venkatprasath01]

Wow, I love the color profile of ZV-E1 ❤

[@HotdogFiend69]

That's really good video quality. That cinema mode looked like a feature film. Not a budget indie film, a feature film.

[@ThereMayBeLions]

I am hoping that tech companies see this, and go back to making dedicated cameras with the goal of going with a utilitarian purpose with these devices. Smartphone cameras are great, but physical lenses and cameras are still ages better than them. Also, bring back the headphone jack. Thanks!

[@efenili]

Could argue thaht phones have physical lenses. Its just larger glass and dedicated hardware specifically made for creating photos/videos will ALWAYS be better than worse hardware with software enhancements when you really need the best quality possible. 99% of users and a good portion of all use cases don't need the best quality though which is why we even have these comparisons in the first place.

[@alfekim11]

an awesome episode. liked! the effort and work ethic behind making this just stands out. Great work Becca!

[@KNMK259]

I like how Becca acts like a Director wearing the cap. Taking notes......

[@zacherius137]

8:58 Image Edge is the same horror story for my alpha7 iii. I don’t understand why Sony can’t get their apps right.

[@domramsey]

There should be a Becca video every day, buds

[@HaithamA]

never thought I'd enjoy a The Verge video, loved this

[@stjiro]

bagpipes are a scottish ting, don’t disrespect

[@RickysGadgets]

Celts used bagpipes for over 850 years most of them are Irish Scottish and welsh

[@milletmongoose]

I was also the person who encouraged people shoot at horizontal orientation. It was a war that we fought and lost.

[@austinwachukwu]

You get a lot of those new features in the newer a7c II :)

[@DoubleOSevan]

I’ve got my eye on this camera and future iterations for a potential upgrade. I use my iPhone 13 Pro Max for my KZbin videos and the ease of use with very acceptable video/audio quality is something that’s going to be difficult letting go of. Airdropping footage to my Mac is also seamless… we’ve really been spoiled here 😅.

[@RADERFPV]

As a cheat, you can enable the Focus markers (maybe Frame markers, something like that) for 9:16, then frame up your content to be between the 2 lines. Then the same video can be used for both shorts and long-form videos. Not quite the same, but might work well for some.

[@Raze0Encrypted]

Great review. Owning an A7C myself. I would say thats definitely a more general purpose camera vs this one which is all video. The 12MP sensor is from the a7sIII which has better low light performance. 12 MP and dual native ISO will definitely make a huge difference in low light. Honestly i think they should not have marketed this as the ZV series. Instead they should focus on making an a7sIII- C, which this sort of is.

[@drtchok]

“Drama” 😭😭 2:33

[@brucequinn]

If you want two to one, it’s pretty darn easy to create to the one in post from an image that’s 9 to 16.

[@karmatraining]

I have a very similar ZV E10 and I got a $20 L-bracket that turns it into a great portrait-mode camera. It works great for talking head videos. All the points in this video are correct, but there is one significant omission which is kinda of the main reason many people buy ZV cameras: the ability to swap out the lenses. She should have shown how a couple of different lenses and inexpensive filters can totally change the look of this camera, hugely for the better, and make it do things phones can't even attempt. Like a macro lens or a decent prime portrait with a nice Glimmerglass filter on it - greatly superior to anything a phone can do. Admittedly the mic quality on this camera isn't sensational but that's normal, if you buy a $200 gun mic you can get great idea for a very reasonable price. I have the ZV setup with a gun mic, L Bracket and a cross mount bracket all ready to go in my bag, so I can whip it onto a tripod at a moment's notice.

[@steadicamwalker]

ZVE1 is a good camera, but as a vlogging camera, it fails. The primary feature of a vlogging camera is that it should be able to shoot stable videos even without a stabilizer because vlogging is all about shooting videos anytime and anywhere, and you can’t carry a stabilizer with you all the time. However, Sony’s anti-shake function is very poor. ZVE1’s anti-shake function is very unstable when shooting handheld walking videos. Active Stabilization requires large cropping and affects image quality. You must use an external stabilizer every time you shoot. You don’t need to buy Zve1 at all. Other Sony models are similar. Even if you use a stabilizer, ZVE1 IBIS cannot handle micro-shakes well, and you still need to use post-shake reduction when you get home. A 20-minute 4K walking video takes more than 2-3 hours to convert in CATALYST BROWSE (even longer if your computer is not fast enough). As for Zve1’s AI anti-shake and tracking functions, they cause too much damage to image quality. You can feel it even on the small screen of your phone. It’s okay to play with them, but try not to use them in practice.-

[@andrewITstyle]

I had Sony A7 Mark I with Samyang 14mm f/2.8 FE And i've decided to buy something new. I've taken Sony ZV-E1 with Samyang 35-150 f/2-2.8 FE

[@quite1enough]

Look up for Lumix S5 II. Much more capable camera, with phase AF finally, with tons of options for video and photo, and a line-up of affordable f/1.8 primes. Price is bit higher ($2.5k), but you'll have a proper camera for that money. And in May "S5 IIx" will be released, more video-centric type.

[@alexsystems2001]

It’s not the smallest full frame camera. The Sigma fp I think is smaller…

[@athok98]

What is the benefit of camera removing noise from audio track at 5:10? You loose information and then in post you cant do anything about it.

[@SimonKabbaj]

why you didnt record the video by using PRoRes in iPhone ?

[@agambhatnagar]

What about the photography with the 14pro VS the zve1?

[@SirMikeProvolone]

We don't need vertical video

[@aunisone]

Glad i found this channel. Great job. Informative and entertaining at the same time.

[@BeHealthyEnough]

Thank you! I film exercise videos with a Panasonic Lumix from 2018 and the battery is going + the auto focus is horrible for filming so I have to set it to manual and pray it stays focused. Could I get your recommendation for a good camera to shoot fitness videos? Or should I just upgrade to an iphone 14 pro?

[@bearotoys]

Whoa didn’t even realize I was watching Verge. Need more reviews like this…

[@johngato7661]

The sheer mass of the sensor of the camera is grater than the whole iPhone camera module, how is this even a question?

[@paulchiu]

Do you shoot HDR videos with iPhone 14 Pro?

[@Socman86]

Sony needs to design a round sensor so you can have horizontal or vertical video all in the same shot

[@fflawsomee434]

Finally a long awaited review from Becca! Well done on this review, very straightforward and attention to detail. Hope to see you here more often! ❤

[@Mo.Jo.]

Towards the end of the video, the host talks about the A7C (Fantastic camera). I would suggest anyone considering it to weigh that option with the anticipated release of the A7C II towards the end of the year. Do your research - if you're about to drop a huge amount of money on a Sony mirrorless camera, you might as well see if you'd like to wait for the next gen rumored to come out this year. It's supposed to be a worthy upgrade to the current version.

[@sharminsultana9206]

Ok those touch screen functions CAN be added to things like the A7s3 with a simple software update. Why don't they do that???

[@nicolasheinemusic]

Totally agree with recommending the A7C first. I will stay with my A7C untill the price of this one drops below 2k € - its at 2,7k € now here in Germany... Too much for my taste, when already owning an A7C.

[@TinLeadHammer]

What, there are no iPhone video apps that allow to dial in exposure compensation?

[@bdeitur]

Did you say it works with regular Sony (Minolta) lenses? Is that with or without an adapter? If so, does the auto focus of them still work?

[@KerriBishman]

I’m thinking about getting the ZV e1 but I’m unsure about what lens to get. Do you mind sharing what you used for this video?

[@phase2006]

Consistently impressed and entertained watching Becca's reviews. She really distills the best of the Verge for me.

[@andy80sdrums]

It's easy to shoot in vertical AND horizontal just display guides on your screen.

[@Joyfulmischief]

This is not a vlogging camera, it's an a7s iii on a budget with enhanced stabilization and autofocus, all in a smaller form package 👌

[@LubaLuba1]

If i wanted to make a movie/ film can I use this ZVE1 to do that? And can I use Canon lens?

[@erwinc.9117]

The best part about an actual camera is the lenses you can put on it. For example a 16-35 for vlogging. Phones tend to have a crappier smaller sensor for ultrawide and Tele and obviously the front facing lens, having high quality optics of all focal lengths utilising the full sensor is an experience unmatched.

[@loshabillospuntocom]

At one point we used to compare phone cameras against cameras nut now we’re comparing cameras against phone cameras. That’s wild

[@nimeshluhana4796]

Can someone kindly guess and tell me what lens is used in this video? Is it the 28-69mm kit lens?

[@ThatMarkGilroy]

I see Becca, you can bet I’m watching and hitting the like button. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@frankiehobby]

Hello, is the FX-30 a better option? Thanks (but I own a A7C already 😂)

[@andrewchen8125]

The title of the "smallest full-frame camera" goes to the Sigma FP. Look it up :)

[@BerlinBK2662]

Does it have a manual mode? Or is everything on auto??