Sony vs. Canon: you get what you pay for

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After fleshing out its vlog-focused camera lineup with the full-frame ZV-E1, Sony is now updating its bread-and-butter point-and-shoot that kicked off the ZV family. The new ZV-1 II is an $899.99 camera with a one-inch-type sensor, wider zoom lens than its predecessor, and various quality of life improvements vying to make it a worthwhile sequel to the ZV-1 of 2020. The $429.99 Canon PowerShot V10 is about the size of an extra-thick deck of cards that packs a fixed 19mm equivalent f/2.8 lens and marries it to a 20.9-megapixel one-inch-type sensor. It is geared toward filming yourself with an articulating screen, front and rear record buttons, stereo mics with a 3.5mm mic jack, a Micro HDMI port, digital image stabilization, and a kickstand for propping it up. It’s expected to launch in June.
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0:00 What's a good vlogging camera?
0:28 Sony ZV-1 II review
2:57 Canon PowerShot V10 review
5:00 REALLY hot take about the V10
5:36 Why creators just use their phone
6:34 ZV-1 vs. V10 footage
7:36 A great view
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@TheVerge
@TheVerge Жыл бұрын
So when do we think one of these camera manufactures will actually make a usable app? I say 2025. -becca
@B00s3
@B00s3 Жыл бұрын
2030 they're very slow on the up take
@sharpenednoodles
@sharpenednoodles Жыл бұрын
Wish they'd just open an API and let third parties create a better solution 😂 (I've been using Sony's app through the various rebrands since 2013 and I'm pretty sure I could do a better job haha)
@chivangames7761
@chivangames7761 Жыл бұрын
I don't think it's their league, rather it would be a fair competition against Zv-1f
@rudyvanos
@rudyvanos Жыл бұрын
Look at the country those camera's come from. Japanese companies are great at electronics, but they are usually not good with software.
@TheSlowpC
@TheSlowpC Жыл бұрын
I see Becca, I see cameras, I click.
@callmesobhan
@callmesobhan Жыл бұрын
I see becca i click
@kokonutguardian
@kokonutguardian Жыл бұрын
We sew Becca, we clicked.
@T-eee-L
@T-eee-L 11 ай бұрын
Big facts 💯
@EwanLim
@EwanLim 11 ай бұрын
same same. I camera becca, I click.
@impatrickt
@impatrickt Жыл бұрын
i think someone needs to just bring back an old school camcorder look with a modern body/SD cards
@BeccaFarsace
@BeccaFarsace Жыл бұрын
and a modern battery that will last all day! ❤
@joelconolly5574
@joelconolly5574 Жыл бұрын
Ikr. Waiting for the FDR-AX53 to be updated one last time.
@opal817
@opal817 Жыл бұрын
Interesting that, unlike the previous version, there is no optical stabilization, but I never would've guessed it from your footage. Sony's Active stab looks great now!
@lmauro
@lmauro Жыл бұрын
I will love that the V10 was more rugid so it will be closer to an action camera, I like the form factor.
@philtespo
@philtespo Жыл бұрын
the smudge transitions ❤
@codeispoetry
@codeispoetry Жыл бұрын
nice review. There's something about the v10 video that looks very nice. the blacks are lovely
@KvanwagTX
@KvanwagTX 11 ай бұрын
I got the canon v10. So far I think it’s a fun little camera. Kinda fun to just throw in my pocket and see what I run into ( with a case. I bought a case because I want the lcd and lens to last)
@MortalKoaster
@MortalKoaster Жыл бұрын
Canon having focus issues? Never! 🙄 Also, if Sony wants to call their cameras vlogging cameras, they need to improve their absolutely atrocious OIS. People might balk but I’ve not found a better vlogging camera to use than the GoPro Hero 11 Black. It might not have an optical zoom or anything, but it’s lightweight, small, has incredible OIS and a nice wide angle lens. Just need a separate mic to get decent audio.
@B00s3
@B00s3 Жыл бұрын
I love Becca's videos, her personality is just wonderful. Need more Becca videos.
@kerronaf
@kerronaf Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it be waaayyy better to just get an action camera (dji, GoPro)???
@kyaghleah
@kyaghleah 6 күн бұрын
Thanks! Great point about the apps. Any thoughts on the best Sony camera for VLOG and portrait photography purposes? Maybe in the $1500- range?
@LukeGeeTravels
@LukeGeeTravels 11 ай бұрын
Great take! I appreciate your honesty and examples! Lots of other reviews almost had me convinced but your honesty quickly snapped me out of it!
@AlpacoFilms
@AlpacoFilms Жыл бұрын
Great video! Personally, I do like the V10 form factor. I think a better comparison would have been the ZV-1f vs the V10. Both cameras are closer in price and both only have contrast-detect sensors. I like the V10 for what it is and for the price. I'd love to consider action cams but the current ones I have don't have the best close focus distance. Hopefully firmware comes soon since it does share the Digic-x I'm sure it'll do well but as it is I remain interested in it. Thanks again for the comparison!
@JRBjornsonVideos
@JRBjornsonVideos Жыл бұрын
The last camera I got for KZbin video blogs was the DJI Action 3. This action camera rocks because of it’s picture quality and great sound quality. The start was odd due to a focusing issue, DJI would fix that a few months later. It is the only Camera I have that shoots 4K. I also use my Canon SL2 DSLR camera for my channel. All though it only shoots 1080 HD. It still rocks. I don’t know when I will update to a new camera, as my 2 cameras are doing just fine. If I was to update I would get the Sony one, because Sony rocks when it comes to video. My Sony Action Cam 3000 was the best camera of it’s time. Thank you for making this video. PS as a blind video creator with little site, I only have reviews and thoughts from people who can see like you. Thank you Becca for your awesome thoughts and personality in these videos..
@vinayakbharadwaz
@vinayakbharadwaz Жыл бұрын
A great video from Becca again 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@anantsunpha3023
@anantsunpha3023 Жыл бұрын
You’re a review very useful thanks ❤
@Zetraxes
@Zetraxes Жыл бұрын
I think canon will do an M50 mark 3 down the line whcih will be their proper take on a viable vlogging camera
@VivicaGsy
@VivicaGsy Жыл бұрын
Becca's back baby!! Will watch this after work 😂
@esterliex.x6149
@esterliex.x6149 Жыл бұрын
Why ZV-1 Mark II 20 megapixels is more expensive than ZV-E10 have 24 megapixels? And for the photos results, which one will be more good? Please answer 🙏🏼 thanks
@djayjp
@djayjp Жыл бұрын
Good video, but these things MUST be compared to the best smartphone cameras as that simply is the basis of comparison shoppers will be making.
@GrainyWorld
@GrainyWorld Жыл бұрын
Most honest and humble youtuber.
@JYLFishing
@JYLFishing Жыл бұрын
Well said! Does my head in that their apps are all stuck in the 90s and never moved on.
@GaliKirankumar
@GaliKirankumar Жыл бұрын
Simply Perfect review.
@trevozneoma
@trevozneoma Жыл бұрын
That Sony is just Will Ferrell playing Harry Caray on SNL...and I love it.
@prathmeshbadgujar4103
@prathmeshbadgujar4103 Жыл бұрын
when will the zve10 mark 2 launch?
@onlysublime
@onlysublime Жыл бұрын
Preordered the Canon! Thanks!!!
@venvever
@venvever Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the real review.
@EmmaKAlexandra
@EmmaKAlexandra Жыл бұрын
I've only heard folks say the Leica and Pixii apps are good? Something magical about the M mount that makes app good somehow
@costagf
@costagf 11 ай бұрын
f2 or less, make the lens a periscope design like some cellphone so it fits the body vertically/internally
@mattbiggers
@mattbiggers Жыл бұрын
Does the Sony have a highlight metering mode?
@mb-watches
@mb-watches Жыл бұрын
Great review, was great to see both of those cams together. Only thing I couldn’t follow was the app topic. Use canon and I am happy with the app. Use it often for remote control and I can get all footage and fotos directly on my phone and iPad, keep up the good work, cheers 👍🏻
@dylanharvy
@dylanharvy Жыл бұрын
Is the Sony that much better than an iPhone camera? Does the £900 price tag and carrying another gadget around justify it? Serious question, thanks :)
@leonardw5487
@leonardw5487 Жыл бұрын
Cameras usually last much longer than phones. Some photographers have been using their cameras for 8 to 10 years and some more
@nomanCyclewala
@nomanCyclewala Жыл бұрын
@@leonardw5487probably the biggest reason on getting a dedicated cameras. No matter how good the smartphone gets. it always has the “smartphone” look to it. and if you get a dedicated camera you can just settle for the base flagship models in each upgrade and save alot in the long run.
@RockyMaiviaMiami
@RockyMaiviaMiami Жыл бұрын
Not having your smartphone being your camera is more than just the camera. Specifically the fact you still need your phone to be your phone.
@jeni719
@jeni719 Жыл бұрын
@@leonardw5487 For Still Photography there has not been that much improvement in the last 10 years, there has been alot of improvement in video for cameras. A 10 year old DSLR or mirrorless camera would be pretty worthless for video. Also, phones are improving their video at a much faster rate than cameras are.
@jagpreetsingh3221
@jagpreetsingh3221 Жыл бұрын
Hi Becca. Can you check out and review DJI osmo pocket 2 as a vlogging camera? It has a 4k 60fps recording option. I know the pocket 3 might be on the way. But still I think pocket 2 offers a lot. With its inbuilt physical gimbal and cinema profile.
@billybuzy
@billybuzy Жыл бұрын
The products reviewed are just what I wanted to see for so long. And the commentary at the end is so on point ❤❤
@AlexSels
@AlexSels 11 ай бұрын
One of the best reviewers and really well made video. Loved it
@joseherrera8489
@joseherrera8489 Жыл бұрын
Did you post this review straight from your phone?
@ardibid
@ardibid Жыл бұрын
Wait, is that video edited on Final Cut Pro on iPad? Those had written animations looks familiar!!! Are they coming from the Final Cut Pro review?😂
@DomBobomb
@DomBobomb Жыл бұрын
I still love my ZV1 Mk1, it’s a wonderful blogging camera, and webcam too! I’m not sure I see a reason to update it yet. But that white color is 👌. God I wish Sony would just REDO their in camera settings and their apps, as they’re so difficult to work with, and needlessly so. It’s my one pain with them. Terrible UI’s across the board.
@thefourthquarter7429
@thefourthquarter7429 Жыл бұрын
I have the ZV-1 and still love it. I can't imagine the MII isn't also compelling. I do like the USB--C, wider lens, and upgraded touchscreen/UI. I wont be upgrading as there aren't enough difference and because I've fixed some of the issues on the ZV-1 with 3rd party accessories. Regardless, I find this camera very useful as a companion to a smartphone or as a second camera with a higher end body. Sony did a good job with this type of camera!
@tbobojonov
@tbobojonov Жыл бұрын
I love Becca so much 💓 6:08 🤩
@DannyBoneZz
@DannyBoneZz 11 ай бұрын
Very very very helpful Thank you :)
@urswuergler3969
@urswuergler3969 7 ай бұрын
Very helpful video - thank you. Just wanted to say that the V10 now (NOV 2023) is super cheap. I intend to use it as a UVC-compliant webcam. Camera apps: totally agree. One of the few exceptions is Panasonic's relatively new LUMIX Sync app. It actually works! 😉😉The old 'Image App' (still available) is bad, though.
@walkwithyan
@walkwithyan 11 ай бұрын
great review. extensive but to the point and honest.
@coryvb3056
@coryvb3056 11 ай бұрын
Becca great video, I respect you and your reviews.
@alphatoinfinity777
@alphatoinfinity777 Жыл бұрын
Yes. The reliable apps are essential if they want smartphone content creators to buy a standalone camera. I may just get the sony xperia 1 V altogether...heard good reviews about that
@noodlessoul8356
@noodlessoul8356 Жыл бұрын
So better keep shooting with the phone?
@tharakatimes
@tharakatimes Жыл бұрын
Perfect content !
@frankfeng2701
@frankfeng2701 Жыл бұрын
Not having 4k60p or 10bit is a huge miss in 2023.
@Zetraxes
@Zetraxes Жыл бұрын
what about overheating on Sony ZV-1 II ?
@MrAndreCoutinho
@MrAndreCoutinho Жыл бұрын
Nice one again. Hopefully Canon improves the V10 in the next gen, their color science for videos is very beautiful and look more natural.
@dusty_burkhalter
@dusty_burkhalter Жыл бұрын
Important to note you can buy two v10s for one ZV-1 II.
@MrAndreCoutinho
@MrAndreCoutinho Жыл бұрын
@@dusty_burkhalter but I don’t think it’s worth at this point.
@dadanardi5541
@dadanardi5541 Жыл бұрын
eh, there was a test comparing a bunch of different companies' color science i.e. Cannon, Nikon, Fuji, Sony, etc, and Canon is actually the least natural looking (compared to eye) but it has a good skin tone and the warm color looks pleasing.
@crunchinjelly
@crunchinjelly Жыл бұрын
Hmm, think the G7X Mk3 would be a better comparison. Canon have tried this one-handed vlogging camera thing so many times and it never works.
@eddyguevara
@eddyguevara Жыл бұрын
Becca rocks it every time... Thank you...
@dusty_burkhalter
@dusty_burkhalter Жыл бұрын
Zv-1 II way overpriced. As an original ZV-1 owner that was a $599 camera on its best day. To see the ZV-1 II offer very little in the way of upgrade and to even downgrade some features it’s DOA for me especially with the significant price bump. Neither camera is a buy IMO. Even beginners should look to the ZV-E10 or R50 with the kit lens.
@averageguy1261
@averageguy1261 Жыл бұрын
"Get with it!" nice..... tell it like it is!
@sivakumargoru3678
@sivakumargoru3678 10 ай бұрын
Can we have a comparison between smartphones and a point and shoot cameras😊
@cw9555
@cw9555 10 ай бұрын
This video is just what I need as I am choosing between the two
@malekith13
@malekith13 Жыл бұрын
Still waiting for a dji pocket 3 to get a great tiny vlog camera ^^
@johnnyvillella2991
@johnnyvillella2991 5 ай бұрын
great review, not gonna lie the canon looked better in that split screen test compared to Sony. colors seemed more saturated.
@MasonsTurtle
@MasonsTurtle Жыл бұрын
Ah, the Flip Ultra HD. The first vlogging camera.
@BeccaFarsace
@BeccaFarsace Жыл бұрын
s/o to the OG
@MarvinChery
@MarvinChery Жыл бұрын
Y’all saw the soft launch?
@sameeralazawee7524
@sameeralazawee7524 Жыл бұрын
Very nice >>>>>> Thank you
@Wingman115
@Wingman115 Жыл бұрын
Great review. This is a hard fail for Canon and I'm a Canon users.
@alex.delcastillo
@alex.delcastillo Жыл бұрын
Becca, you are great!
@asantosgjade
@asantosgjade 5 ай бұрын
Good review!
@leledreher
@leledreher Жыл бұрын
Good video, but "opens the shutter to f1.8" kinda hurt, lol
@guytaylor4737
@guytaylor4737 Жыл бұрын
Fuji dose make a great app it just came out a few days ago it may be the first app that actually works and is amazing of all the camera manufacturers
@Mionwang
@Mionwang 9 күн бұрын
The new creator's app has been really solid for me to be honest. Although I rarely use it to transfer photos or videos.
@rockstar6790
@rockstar6790 Жыл бұрын
I have the mark 1 Sony ZV-1 and it’s better than my iPhone 14 Pro Max as a camera. But I do agree with Becca about the app experience, especially sharing the photo to social media. Now, I’m facing a dilemma on whether to bring both my dedicated camera and my smartphone for travel or just bring one of them.
@onlysublime
@onlysublime Жыл бұрын
The app rating for canon is unfair because the app has come a very long way it used to be awful. But the new version is really good. Easy to connect. Lots of options
@a81l1fy
@a81l1fy 8 ай бұрын
I LOVE the V10 and have been doing great with it. They made it to use it vlogging but also live streaming as well and that is how I use it and could not be happier with it paired with my M200 and R6 Mark II. It is awesome to have in my kit for when that is needed. Canon is making something for everything and if that means that some people not liking some product then so be it but there is always something for everyone and everything in between as well. GG Canon!
@marklion315
@marklion315 7 ай бұрын
You livesstream on twitch or youtube? how is the experience are there problems with the canon app? I assume you're talking livestreaming irl not sitting at your desktop, if not just ignore the question sorry.
@a81l1fy
@a81l1fy 7 ай бұрын
@@marklion315 Sorry. I livestream on Twitch.
@MinimalisTech
@MinimalisTech Жыл бұрын
I see Becca, I click. It's that simple.
@michelle7671
@michelle7671 Жыл бұрын
Instead of coming out with the V10, canon should focus on releasing the g7x mark 4
@meatintaco2002
@meatintaco2002 3 ай бұрын
I bet we can shoot a film with a V10 , with controlled lighting of course =)
@Anil-io
@Anil-io Жыл бұрын
Thank you becca for calling out these camera companies ! My Fujifilm App is Terrible and even if i manage to transfer images from Camera to Phone the extreme compression makes the JPEGs unusable.
@-grey
@-grey Ай бұрын
V10 or ZV1F?
@jettschenker
@jettschenker 3 ай бұрын
The lens has skew. How about a zero distortion lens?
@chasenhorizons
@chasenhorizons 10 ай бұрын
Becca, your videos rock! Seriously this is making me consider ditching my iPhone 12 for my content - but you said it, the integration back to my phone with an app continues to be a nightmare/mess. For me, creating those 2hr script, film (do film during the week as well), edit --> launch flow is killed by the anemic apps that these companies put out.
@abhilashjoy
@abhilashjoy Жыл бұрын
I really Becca’s videos on Verge. I would watch her videos is she ever goes solo. Hope she launches a Pateron!
@jrsisson1978
@jrsisson1978 Жыл бұрын
She had her own channel that she stopped.
@fffffffffffffffff5646
@fffffffffffffffff5646 Жыл бұрын
For real
@iamkayotto
@iamkayotto Жыл бұрын
Great comparison, now somebody tell Sony it is 2023 and a camera with S-Log3 should have 10bit video and we are getting somewhere.
@kbootyjenny
@kbootyjenny 11 ай бұрын
exactly the video i needed!!!
@joelconolly5574
@joelconolly5574 Жыл бұрын
Thing is I like is to zoom a lot. It's few of the reasons I was considering the RX 100VII. Downgrading the camera to an even shorter range from the Mark 1 makes it less versatile then it should be. Sure it's brighter but it doesn't capture as much range as the ZV1 mark 1 or the RX 100 VII. If I want to capture night the iPhones does it way better. So unfortunately it's a pass for me 🤷🏻‍♂️. Good for anybody who doesn't have my preference tho don't worry.
@simoz78
@simoz78 Жыл бұрын
Why u even think is brighter than zv1?
@not4fun852
@not4fun852 Жыл бұрын
Zflip5 might better then v10 for vloger
@RogerSanderson
@RogerSanderson 10 ай бұрын
I think Canon always have the best contrast in their image & video quality but they haven't really put too much effort with video features. Aside from making that vlog camera, it still seems like not much effort was put into it... It's has great potential though. I am debating getting the ZV-1 ii or the DJI Pocket 2. The only problem with Sony is their prices are still a bit high.
@Samtana109
@Samtana109 Жыл бұрын
Preach Becca!!
@flattop223
@flattop223 Жыл бұрын
I don't know why they can't make it easy to transfer photos to cellphones. This camera while not designed for blogging, it was released in 2013 and has this nifty button on it. (Red arrow in photo) While traveling China, and snapping photos, I accidently pushed the button and everyone around me got notifications, apparently I had just sent several photos I had just taken, at that location... Hmmm apparently I can't add a photo, the camera is the Samsung WB200F and the button is on top of the camera, it is the "Direct Link button, you can set up the button to send to everyone in the area that will accept it or a friend group or just a single phone. All the blogging cameras should have this feature.
@dvdaltizer
@dvdaltizer Жыл бұрын
Love Becca! Totally agree... wish Canon would make the G7X line better and more like the ZV-1 lineup. Surprising how much better the Canon colors were even though the image wasn't as good as the sony
@SarahhhBeth
@SarahhhBeth 11 ай бұрын
I wish the g7x mark iii would have had better focus during video and it would be the perfect vlog camera!
@DylanParisMusic
@DylanParisMusic Жыл бұрын
Becca rules forever
@EduardoMatiz
@EduardoMatiz 6 ай бұрын
Feels like Canon just reused the Vixia Mini X, also the ZV-1 II should be compared with the G7X III :)
@CrimsonCrystalRoses
@CrimsonCrystalRoses Жыл бұрын
it seems that Canon has a fixed lens and Sony a zoom that better adapts to different scenes with a better bokeh in closeups
@Starr0w001
@Starr0w001 Жыл бұрын
Insta360 app is the benchmark for me
@ak_hoops
@ak_hoops Жыл бұрын
I must say, I cannot comprehend why Canon made this the way they did. Everything you said of IF they made the camera a certain way, then it'd work. Also Canon's app and connection issues never makes sense to me. All these things combined make me wonder why one would get the PowerShot over just using their phone, or even a cheap(er) phone (the iPhone SE is the same price). Full-Frame >>> More Full-Frame please 😭
@onlysublime
@onlysublime Жыл бұрын
the Canon Connect app has come a very long way. all those negative reviews were most likely with the old revisions of the software. in the old days, you had to decide between connecting wifi or Bluetooth. and both ways had their pros and cons. and the app was very finicky about whether to launch the app first and then start the camera connection or turn on the camera first and then start the app. but those days are gone. it's super easy. you don't have to decide wifi or BT (it seems to use both!). connection is super easy. and for the couple times it didn't connect right away, the onscreen instructions were good enough to help me fix it. Now, I read that the new version of the software (which isn't out yet) will let you livestream as well as do other things. But right now, copying photos is super easy. I do wish they gave more options for photo copying. Right now, you get to either do a super compressed 1.5 MB file or a massively huge JPG (something like 8-15MB depending on the camera that you're using). I'd love a high quality photo that was somewhere in-between in terms of file size. As for a phone, the best cameras of a phone are on the back and if you're using the back, you have 2 issues. the first is you can't frame yourself with the background properly because you can't see the screen. the other is I'm always accidentally touching the screen of my phone and if you can't see the screen, you don't know what is happening. the only way to prevent that is to use a gimbal or tripod or something but then, it's no longer really portable.
@vampireslayer263
@vampireslayer263 Жыл бұрын
The livestream ain’t even up yet lol
@Sarielify
@Sarielify Жыл бұрын
the Leica app is good :)
@L7CK7
@L7CK7 Жыл бұрын
The app rant chapter on 1.5x speed is comedy.
@TecnologiacreativaMario
@TecnologiacreativaMario Жыл бұрын
the only good connect app I saw are Panasonic and the best is insta360 that is fantastic!
@nilomanalo
@nilomanalo Жыл бұрын
The app is really a bummer. If transferring images/video is still a pain, people will still be more inclined to use their phones instead.
@cellphonehistorian1491
@cellphonehistorian1491 11 ай бұрын
well. the DxO One released in 2015 seems better than zv1f and canon v10
@garybc
@garybc Жыл бұрын
amen to that cameras' apps comment!!!
@mrsGasky
@mrsGasky Жыл бұрын
for vloging all I want from canon is new g7x not whatever this is 😭
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