Sorceress makes 4000+ Horsepower!!! Dyno Day 3

[@craigm5511]

This multi part dyno series has been some of the best KZbin content I have ever seen. The technical aspect allows us an insight that the average person simply wouldn't normally have access to. Everyone involved is at the tip of their game, and the videos are put together showing the reality of the challenges along with the forward progress. Brilliant!!!

[@carpentrybybill7018]

Great ! Not on a budget. These are 100k motors + for dreams only

[@theman2934]

Very knowledgeable people making crazy horsepower. Makes it real easy to subscribe.

[@truegret7778]

Thanks for allowing us to tag along and learn just a tiny bit of your thought process and real engineering to make reliable power. Can't wait to see Sorceress at the track!

[@helgaairhead]

All the best from your Norwegian fanboiz club - thank you for sharing the prosess and what's involved in big power numbers. Good to see Shane T. behind the computer - we have been following Shane from the days of RedVictor Racing - happy to see engine number two pass the four K mark. Now we are looking forward to see here on the track. Blessings from Norway, Helge 👍👍

[@kelvinator5088]

This channel will blow up, keep em coming!

[@Shademax4273]

Thank you for sharing this is good stuff.

[@Make-Asylums-Great-Again]

Yappin stops around 12:00

[@backyardfishfight7311]

Watching the frame do a 🌈 during the pulls is phenomenal!

[@nicktaliaferro]

Thanks for bringing us along!

[@5963jake]

She didn't just come to the party. She is the bell of the ball!! Awesome work!! Love the chassis lift on power. Sounds so dam good!!!

[@paullutherborrow637]

I don’t think iv ever seen a good champion spark plug other than a lawn mower/ wipper snipper spark plug ! NGK all the way

[@tnc4700]

headgasket has left the building again 😂

[@Deetroitmuscle]

Steel O rings and Copper can hold back some serious pressure

[@ChambersRacing9862]

Public service announcement: Champion spark plugs are made for lawn mowers

[@newtonfirefly3584]

PSA: ChambersRacing is conveying typical Falsehood, Distortions, LIES among LIARS !! 😞

[@newtonfirefly3584]

@Jack_Rabbit17 False !! LIES among LIARS !! 😲

[@thedude7726]

Ngk is what's up son

[@timothybayliss6680]

Champion copper core plugs have always served me well. Almost disposable because theyre so cheap and relatively long life

[@newtonfirefly3584]

@@timothybayliss6680 Those more basic Champion spark plugs certainly have use within many engines. There have other types of spark plugs too with similar level of quality. The shown difference with the specific spark plug type has affects too. as shown, described. These shown plugs are not the more common copper core type as described.

[@crazylarryjr]

This is the second Drag and drive car i've seen on youtube that did 4k+ HP on a hub dyno. The other D&D style street legal car to do this was Steve Morris and his Boostmaster 92 caprice wagon, he did i think 4500 HP on his hub dYno. That is impressive power from a streetable engine

[@BigInjun05]

Steve makes some bad ass motors.

[@crazylarryjr]

@@BigInjun05, Yes he does, I didn't count the fuel tech vids, because none of those, or most of them aren't street legal

[@veto8792]

Just because you haven’t seen them doesn’t mean they aren’t out there. Most folks just don’t push it that far on the hub dyno. Tom Bailey, Ned Dumphy and Cleetus are just a few off the top of my head have 4000+ hp drag and drive rides. Folks like Jeff Lutz, Stephan Gustafson and even Alex Taylor are also pretty close. (Edit: The folks I mentioned also make their power with a LOT less turbos too. This guy is using twin 110mm Harts turbos. That’s freakin huge).

[@crazylarryjr]

@@veto8792 I did not say there weren't more out there, In fact the 4500 that Steve Morris did, the engine in Tom Bailey's 2.0 is exactly the same setup 540 and all. What i said was, that is only the second Drag and drive type car i seen actually do 4k+ on the hub dyno. Of course there are more out there that could, But most will just tune up on a dyno (in fact Steve said he almost never runs that hard on the dyno), they do just tuning then track test everything

[@mosquitofleetfishing6599]

Steve did 4202 on (I think) 57psi on gigantic (110mm) turbos. This car is awesome as well. Hopefully we’ll see this car run Steve’s soon. Would be great content

[@MJPilote]

Very interesting stuff and no fillup BS in the video, just facts fun and information ! Really awesome content! Earned my sub.

[@TurboJohnRacing]

Wow...... Love hearing Shane's explanations.....

[@missinglinkster]

This last series of vids has been great! Thx for the content! Can't wait to see her at the track!

[@fullsendmarinedarwin7244]

MoTeC knock control is awesome. I run M150 on my boat it's nice to know the knock control works well , peace of mind!

[@bash5552]

8:18 pressurized the cooling system on that pull.....

[@zillamill]

tends to happen after 4k hp i suppose you wouldn't know about that

[@spades262]

Blew the TRUNK open !

[@nialbarnsley4108]

Great informative videos, love them , i did notice that after you changed the turbo's you no longer got blue smoke from the left turbo when letting off

[@ZacharyBraxton-m1f]

I like very much. Made a monster of a race car. Good work guys.

[@garywinkel1831]

Damned impressive.

[@noname-xv6fr]

that thing is crazy :D, i could listen to that engine all day :D

[@tedgerstenslager2949]

Sorceress Rocks! The entire team is the greatest. No quit..

[@BEYTEK]

absolute insanity. really informative too

[@kene6838]

Looking forward to seeing some track time

[@Shademax4273]

This is so good

[@auriceburrell8148]

With all this technology and now understanding more detail engine characteristics this should be one of the fastest cars in the 1/4

[@jameswallace4794]

Lol. Nerded over here from another nerdy rat rod space. Instantly recognized the car from rat rod guys talking about learning from it. This is like getting launched into space and meeting my buddy jeffs friend out there, and he asks if i need to take a thou off my cam load.

[@scottb9868]

To add to that spark plugs even the direction of the strap in the cylinder matters when you get to a high enough volume of fuel.

[@hayden5099]

All this hard work and then it spins off the line must be a killer

[@alexmann3309]

I’m glad you worked that out like I commented in the first video. Pulling a 3000+hp motor down at the top of a rev range is something that would NEVER happen in real life. Can’t imagine how much load that puts on the poor thing. Shame the sweep was like so short. Would have been nice to hear it actually come on rather than a 500rpm sweep. Such a cool motor.

[@Wonderwrench]

Maybe, but look at most all the real high horse power cars. They are not running glides do to to much RPM drop on the shift. It can cause engine failure and or upset the car.

[@brianermeling2764]

We ran a similar NGK plug in a Sonny Leonard Hemi when racing with Mark Woodruff

[@TheScottib1]

Whoo hoo, that's some great numbers, how much more boost will it handle? 🤙🇦🇺

[@jensgustavsson2871]

nice work!

[@Sean-i4r]

My favorite G body ever

[@rhnstjegilrhkscvn1djhrj969]

Steve morris made 4500 hp with 45 lbs of boost

[@ljkking622]

What does your engine make? These guys are trying to optimize the combo and find information not make the most horsepower.

[@rhnstjegilrhkscvn1djhrj969]

@@ljkking622 I guess the title line on the page was a misprint, showing HP and boost levels. PS I don't have a 4000 hp engine

[@ljkking622]

@@rhnstjegilrhkscvn1djhrj969 then why are you pumping up Steve’s engine? If you watched the video it was about learning about the combo not to break the dyno with huge numbers. If you’re going to brag at least have something of your own to brag about not bring up a complete stranger.

[@rhnstjegilrhkscvn1djhrj969]

@@ljkking622 complete stranger?, get with the times. still waiting on that track video of sorceress doing 5's

[@Metalwolf765]

I love this car and the series- everyone on the team seems great! Going to be fun to watch as Cleet comes for you in his new project.

[@rhnstjegilrhkscvn1djhrj969]

won't happen

[@Metalwolf765]

@rhnstjegilrhkscvn1djhrj969 what do you mean? Sorceress is a 5 second car, and Cleet is building a 5 second car right now. Sorceress is one of the more famous builds, of course Cleetus is going to try to line up.

[@dmeemd7787]

NICE!!😊

[@swappedTURBOegg]

is that flame puff at 1239 from the un burnt methanol air charge from the compressor outlet on throttle lift as compressor surge and igniting on the red hot turbo manifolds?

[@scrappy7571]

Question for you math guys, I'm wondering how much HP does it take to build 76psi at the volume of air the engine needs at max rpm.

[@Naturmensch]

4000NM thats is Crazy!!

[@isaacrishel636]

Was curious when you put the second engine in if the same cylinders were not contributing as much. Was wondering if it was due to disruption in intake pulses from firing order or simply a characteristic of the engine.

[@JFar-jf6qq]

Good Luck fellas…you obviously aint f*ckin around!! Be Safe guys👍🏻

[@sirspikey]

6:35 What does he mean with "more detonation", bigger, the amount and what is good or bad? I'm not a mechanic but want to learn.

[@andredillard2332]

yall should do a vlog on that blue performante that car is one of my dream cars

[@shawnm8232]

So I'm guessing multi-electrode spark plugs are not any better ?

[@afishl1]

Can you guys compete in NPK Streetoutlaws or does the car not fit the criteria?

[@Saltygarage]

Getting so used to massive prochargers, thought the Hoosier wheel in the back was one 😂

[@sneezinhatch]

Harts turbos are insane, think Steve Morris made 4200HP on 55 psi on 2 96mm with 45 psi to go

[@KTMGREG55]

Pretty sure that driver side turbo was leaking or on its way out. Lots of smoke. Nothing with the new ones 👌.

[@TwisNinja]

if you were to pneumatically seal that dyno cell,... how long would it take that car to void the dyno cell of air ?

[@tedribon]

If the Earth would ever stop rotating, just hook this monster up and we’re back in business.

[@reyalPRON]

how many volts to get that hair?

[@johnnienitro6812]

OMG......Tough crowd here.....lol. I learned a lot........Thank You All!

[@grabir01]

Surprised the computer equipment in the same room as the car and dyno survives all the shock waves. You may whish to get a drummer sound wall to put between the digital equipment and the car. Also get a db meter and take a measurement to see what attenuation you get. Every 3db is half.

[@nicklong3279]

Drinking game. Take a shot every time he says knock.. 😂

[@Handles_are_good_for_holding]

What’s the difference in Dynos from the type that has 2 rollers that the rear tires rides in and the kind that has one big roller that the rear tires ride on and the type of dyno that you remove the tires and bolt the dyno right to the car. What’s the difference between them? (Im still learning thank you )

[@imsa15463]

By " roudy" do you mean that it tries to bend the shaft from the dynamometer in half on each run?

[@Shademax4273]

So cool to see the knock sensor verified with actual cylinder pressure. I was under the impression preignition is more catastrophic than typical detonation of end gas in the cylinder.

[@newtonfirefly3584]

But they need to attend to the cause of, with the "knock", pre-detination in cylinder 5, consistently; clearly an actual expert, engineer as Ben is needed to consult with again 🙂 Shane is good with programming and "Trial & Error", but not proper analysis; required proper engineering knowledge within combustion, fuel, mechanical, mechanics :-) We engineers have studied, learned, developed the proper knowledge, thus proper design, development, verification, certification, assessment, evaluation, differentiation, discernment, analysis, problem solving, solutions, as Ben at EFI University, R.E.D, along with all other design engineers. [me included] @Sorceress: All The Best, Sincerely

[@Shademax4273]

Thats why im curious as preignition means combustion started before the plug fires which can be fatal. Detonation occurs after the plug has fired. That is my basic understanding of a complex subject im sure.

[@robertmason8341]

@@newtonfirefly3584”me included” …r u part of this team ?

[@vehdynam]

Very , very impressive. At 76 lbs. of boost the cylinder pressures must be off the charts. Also I did notice some coolant escaping after one pull , is the cooling system seeing some boost leakage( pressuring of the cooling system).? Many thanks.

[@newtonfirefly3584]

False, Fake, claims portrayals, narratives, ideas, concepts, misconceptions, etc. !! 😞 The boost pressures are within the measurements, within the charts too; clearly You need proper information, knowledge, principles, etc.

[@Hemeralopie]

Why is the left side of the engine creating more fog than the right side?

[@dublkrossr2059]

Sweet azz ride

[@TheCraigy83]

how many times will it yield 4000 before a rebuild ? +10 ?

[@BillyP-49Chevy]

The car is awesome. I have followed you for many years. I just don't see the practicality if something breaks. It's such a one-off custom, that parts won't exactly be easy to find, there dare I say make. If you're looking for someone to sweep and clean the shop, I could use the extra funds to get my 49 Chevy together. You want no part of that beast😂 Hell, I'm trying to get the funds just for a 78/82 turbo.

[@timtaylor6147]

So the knock signal correction strategy is the same as a stock GM ECU Basically Imagine that

[@killintime1311]

Try HEMI plugs they colder check Luis fuel tech

[@ricknielson8934]

I surprised your not running electronic waste gates

[@s7v7nfiv5]

Yeah one day this car will be able to hang with my cammed 2002 ls1 camaro ss 😂

[@sneezinhatch]

Like to see this car at world cup

[@Transparencies-EST.1787]

8:20 your radiator cap was trowing water out..

[@EddyKorgo]

Yeah Leeroy the Savage did that too...for one second. pushing 80psi xD Didnt lasted xD

[@heavydutyroadsidellc920]

E3 diamond fire. try them instead. top fuel guys seem to love them

[@robertmason8341]

They love the sponsor money to put that sticker on the car so people that don’t race think people who do race use them and thus they must be good for their street car too (your comment just proved their marketing people’s point in spending that money to sponsor someone who will never use their product). Quite the contrary in reality NGK is in almost every serious race car and motorcycle. Nobody runs multi ground strap spark plugs that’s knows what they are doing. Electricity takes the path of least resistance

[@heavydutyroadsidellc920]

@@robertmason8341 i have seen them up close and personal on top fuel dragsters, they handle the insane megajoule plasma ark at the plug.

[@andrereaves2712]

700hp is more than a "little more detonation"

[@Fk8td]

Ngk uses a softer plug metal and usually will melt before a champion In my experience a champion will destroy a cylinder before melting a lot of the time.

[@michellee8369]

🇦🇺

[@notsponsored103]

Typo in the title

[@FastPaull]

Champion spark plugs are for lawn mowers. I'll never run anything except and NGK.

[@Randysshop]

Getting it done for sure!! Track day you will need to let us know where that will be, I hope it is 131 my home track because I will be there.

[@bmf572]

engine, Engine, ENGINE!!!! Not “motor”!

[@sergev7828]

Y

[@cheap_car_stories]

maybe he german

[@JohnBoyBuilds]

Beautiful car ❤❤❤ you should bring this to a cleetus n cars I'd love to see this in action . Much love

[@randalljames1]

Right around 12.38 is looks like an exhaust leak? maybe hot side inlet on turbo? 3k torque? whew... going to give the suspension a real workout...

[@newtonfirefly3584]

Clearly You lack proper views, details, information, principles 😞 Good Luck

[@AussieBassplayer]

@@newtonfirefly3584 What is it then?

[@newtonfirefly3584]

@@AussieBassplayer Clearly You lack the proper complete view, information, detail to begin to assess, evaluate, etc., along with lacking proper principles too. Good Luck

[@AussieBassplayer]

Clearly you have all the idea's so tell us then?

[@randalljames1]

@@AussieBassplayer I wouldn't waste too much brain on the genius... In some 40+ years of drag racing, there is always an expert with zero track time..

[@slowpoke96Z28]

Iceman retired and went drag racing lol...

[@bullhead360]

Beavis?

[@Picklemedia]

Homeboy looks like Butthead from Beavis and Butthead

[@stephanrose6266]

Facts

[@Handles_are_good_for_holding]

If someone is knocking maybe just open the door ? At the very least ask who’s there?

[@deanhil3978]

"Burnt Piston"

[@JayDee-bz2ge]

where are the HONDA 4000 hp 4 cylinders?? LOL when weight ,, not cid, is compared, many v8's are within 100 - 150 pounds of 4cyl and v6 ers. the torque in these are so crazy, you can pull to 200mph with 2 or 3 gears... I bet this weighs just over half of a Poohgatti W12, ( they are 1000 pounds) and turned down to 1,500 2,000 hp the endurance would be amazing I'm glad people spend the money so we can see it done.. I hope to have 1000 hp in something one day, probably with paddle tires because the sand dyno is all I can afford...

[@s.v.gadder1443]

I run ngk on everything

[@Latuya-y1n]

Lean out highest rpms not idle ❤ rage fuel pump regulator or nitrous nozzle instead of injectors 500 liters few feet 400 feet 14 gpm

[@kevinlewis9151]

4200? I saw a 4800 HP.

[@lauraradigan4114]

What impresses me most about your program is the amount of research you do. It’s not, just throw a bunch of boost and timing at it and see what happens. You study valve train geometry, try different turbos, manifolds , you actually experiment. Is your program as in depth with suspension set up?

[@jamesgeorge4874]

_ONLY_ 3000 Ft/lbs, pfffft. Just kidding, that's sick.

[@matthewmccormick2417]

Lets see the Car on a Drag and drive like Sick week, Sick summer or Drag Week. That will be a true test of the Car

[@Porter92]

This isnt a street car or has a class for it. He would just be in his own class n probably why he doesnt

[@matthewmccormick2417]

@@Porter92 there is a class for it Called unlimited. The same class Tom Baily and others run. Btw he has classed it himself as a street car.

[@timothymuncey9299]

70+psi oughta be 5,000+ on a motor and turbos like that🤦 🤣🤣🤣

[@spyer212]

Build one and show us how to do it

[@mingscustoms]

Get a real ngk race plug fine wire, slant electrode, iridium

[@sonikblox]

When you’re making so much power you don’t really count 200whp

[@AlloyworksOfficial]

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[@FrankJones-ne2qo]

Could you please have the guys bullshit in the other room

[@jonathanduke8295]

Nice try out for NPK

[@shvrdavid]

The car is not class legal for NPK

[@newtonfirefly3584]

Clearly the opposite @jonathanduke8295; Johnathan Duke !! 😞 They proved the NKG are better suited, fitting, superior for their application for the two basis stated explicitly 🙂

[@ScoredPiston]

⁠@@newtonfirefly3584 NPK is No Prep Kings. Nothing to do with spark plugs. Keep pretending you know something.

[@newtonfirefly3584]

@@ScoredPiston Clearly You posted this comment upon the wrong comment !! 😲

[@ScoredPiston]

@@newtonfirefly3584 no, I didn’t. The original post was about trying out for NPK - No Prep Kings. I’ll say it again - NPK is nothing to do with spark plugs. I hope you’re a bot, because you don’t know shit. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nHuqoHZrhZanrdUsi=Y_jeaAo4oPVTxo4f