Sorcs are bad and I've also lost my remaining hair - The State of Sorc Season 4 - Diablo 4

[@acestarnest]

barb is the new sorc now

[@albeon81]

Impressive math sir.

[@Aridity12]

I feel your frustrating. There are so many cool builds to theory-craft and play, but they just deal no damage. Listen, my 300h no-life relentless farming with near perfect gear seasonal Sorc - is still struggling in the Pit 100's, meanwhile my 4 hour semi-naked barb is casually speed farming them in sub 2 min. The imbalance is so massive they don't even play the same game. I think we also just struggle with the quantity of aspects. We have Rogues and Barbs just having multiple weapons and more aspects, and like you said, access to some crazy global multipliers we simply don't have. Its just no match. Everybody was expecting major buffs for the mid-season patch, and for good reasons right. This was not a problem of high expectations, it was so stupidly obvious and we got nothing. I mean sure, we got a bit more tanky but nothing to fix our lacking damage. I see all the sorc mains being demoralized atm, hopefully we can get some decent buffs in the near future.

[@irenicus83]

Blizzard is not doing the math... so true It's been patch after patch. Even back in S0 I saw this. I have spreadsheets showing the base damage of many skills just makes no sense at all, and that certain aspects give direct damage buffs while others are "skill might do X but with a 30% damage penalty" From day 1 the blizzard solution has been "x chance goes from 15 to 20% and damage penalty reduced from 30 to 25%"... thats not going to cut it when the skill needs a 500% damage buff to be viable. example: Chain lightning bounces 1 more time (maybe, because its still a chance to instead of always, and no damage multiplier on the aspect). Does nothing for the fact the skill damage is insanely low and the bounce mechanics are awkward and inefficient. meanwhile they gave incinerate a new aspect that gives it 3 flames and does 70% more damage and lo and behold its actually somewhat playable now. Frozen orb aspect gives two extra explosions, which even though they are penalized still doubles the damage of the skill so is at least useable now that they fixed it and gave it a unique that slaps on a bunch of free summons and spell casts. Fireball has gloves that come with a damage penalty (and oh look they reduced the penalty another 5%, wonder why nobody plays it yet) and an aspect for some crit damage which doesn't help when the base damage is garbage.

[@marzatplay]

Great video. Blizzard are incompetent. They should hire you.

[@troyrarehale2517]

POE2, rip D4.

[@RandomNumberGaming]

For the first time, today I searched "POE2 release date"

[@irenicus83]

The basic attack builds are king right now because moonrise and adaptability both give 80% damage multipliers which is more than double what a normal aspect gives. They get free attack speed as well from moonrise and rapid In addition, those S tier builds all have an additional unique or temper that adds another huge damage boost to the specific basic skill. For example cleave temper for bash is insane damage % (additive, but 100s/1000s of %) plus AoE. Flameweaver gloves give a 70% multiplier and shotgun effect to firebolt. Do the damage math just on a pure damage buckets and mulitpliers and you will see that these basic attack skills do double or triple the damage of the next best core skill builds. Its not even close

[@JP-hh3mt]

I've found this to be true in game. I dropped Tal rasha's in favor of a ring with GA for Attack speed (among other things). I actually dropped Conceited to get Accelerating. With Frozen Orb I just stacked as much attack speed as my mana could sustain and it's been very successful. Hopefully more people watch the video, especially some of the big streamers who have Blizzard's ear. Basically sorc can't do damage like the other classes (excluding druids). What they DID do was nerf the Pit today (heavily). But, yeah, sorcs are near the bottom again. Really sorry about the meteor sorc. I am going to link your video to another streamer who does meteor builds. He needs to see this.

[@Early-Adopter]

I’m running frozen orb enchant/esu’s/accelerating. 95% attack speed once everything kicks in. With the patch changes yesterday I’m mowing pit 102 trash down pretty quickly and the non-moving or slightly moving bosses like blood bishop go down much faster.

[@JP-hh3mt]

@@Early-Adopter Same for me. I got to Pit 110 boss with 5 minutes left on the clock. I couldn't kill him in time. I had NO deaths during the run, I just couldn't do enough damage fast enough. I might try Flamefeeder in place of Control to see if that works. If I clear a Pit 110 I'm done for the season.

[@ZensivYT]

well the new unique item on the ptr is gonna be increase the damage of BASICS by 300%x lmao!

[@Ammo720]

Sorc currently has 3 A-tier builds and 1 S-tier. They are fine!

[@albeon81]

As a barb main, they re not fine. It’s not even close unless you are godlike and can run the infinite flame shield build. Sorc is still really fun to play but the power is not there.

[@EmmaLynn1310]

lol no

[@pseudipto]

No

[@AnatoleVGC]

All A tier builds cant push pit very far. The S tier build depends on a bug that makes shatter stronger AND boss fishing cause it needs to kill regular mob to do damage so you need to fish for ONE of the pit bosses to be able to go far. Barbs can do billions damage withou doing any of that. No, sorcs are not fine

[@madeleinehuish9947]

No they are not