'SORE LOSERS': Dems move to abolish Electoral College after Trump win

[@herbie_the_hillbillie_goat]

Getting rid of the electoral college wouldn't have helped them. They still lost.

[@BabyNoah22]

I know right....they are like " let the popular vote win!".....Donald Trump- " Hold My Beer"

[@herbsuperb6034]

That hardly matters. The Electoral College is essential for keeping the country together. Else the rural folks have no representation whatsoever, and they won't live under that yoke. There will be rebellion and Civil War without end. Not that Democrats know that, understand that, or care about that. These people are power-mad to the point of abject degeneracy.

[@erikjohnson9112]

No electoral college means cheating in just a few key population centers will win all elections. Much easier to cheat in just a few key locations.

[@noahhyde8769]

Proud to give that comment the 100th 'like!'

[@noahhyde8769]

And just listen to them OPENLY...SAYING that 'lesser' states 'don't count.' They're scraping the bottom of the sludge pot, now -- with nothing to lose, they believe. But all they're doing is digging it even deeper, for themselves.

[@exwp20001]

No. Rural Americans won’t live at the mercy of big cities.

[@MostlyHarmless86]

Rural America has most of the food and most of the guns. But the big cities will self-implode, so the country folks aren't too concerned.

[@soyentak5076]

@@MostlyHarmless86 as well as most natural resources

[@JRyan-dz4fd]

With Abortion it seems a lot of people want the federal government to tell them what to do. Academia is like religion, from the pastor to the professor. Point is the big metropolitan places is the only reason states turn blue. "They" have to speak to that elite, that educates them or rather indoctrinates them to anything but "freedom". "My body, my choice" didn't apply during the pandemic. Why should Portland tell East Oregon what to do ? Elites don't care about their elitism only that they can't control more like Wyoming.

[@GEORGEJETSON-s4w]

California grows most of the food and I don’t think it matters much we trade with other countries a lot. Most of the food we eat is Imported even though we produce more food than any country. where do these left right bs narratives come from anyways The United States imports a significant portion of its fresh produce, with the percentage increasing over time: Fresh fruit: The US imports about 60% of its fresh fruit. Fresh vegetables: The US imports about 40% of its fresh vegetables. Overall: The US imports a growing share of its fresh produce, with the percentage increasing from 50% to 60% for fresh fruit and 20% to 38% for fresh vegetables between 2007 and 2021. The US imports produce from many countries, but Mexico is the leading supplier. In 2022, Mexico and Canada supplied 51% and 2% of US fresh fruit imports, respectively. The US imports produce to ensure that it's available year-round. The US also grows some produce domestically, with products like apples, pumpkins, sweet potatoes, and head lettuce accounting for less than 10% of the total supply in 2022.

[@samr.england613]

That's the whole point of why the US is a republic, and not a democracy. The Senate exists so that the more populous states could not dominate the sparsely populated states. It was planned as a safeguard against what was known as the, 'Tyranny of the majority'. You can thank God and James Madison for it.

[@lesliepack6553]

Dems are forgetting they lost the popular vote as well 😂

[@awakenedgenerations.i.k.h689]

They will try to pull that 2020 again. But that won't work anymore since we know they are a bunch of cheaters.

[@hxhdfjifzirstc894]

Forgetting? These are not honest people... they'll actively try to con you into thinking that THEY won the """popular vote""". THERE IS NO POPULAR VOTE, except at the state level. _States_ elect presidents, not people. People tell their _state_ how to vote for president.

[@FelonyVideos]

They would move to abolish the popular vote too, if they could ever get full power. Well, at least until they can preload the vote the way Putin, Chavez, and Jong-Un have done.

[@andrebatris8853]

came here to say this lol

[@TheObeyMayhem]

Easier to manipulate the popular vote, can't fool the electoral college. That's why they want to abolish it, makes it easier to cheat.

[@onapositivenote3556]

The more the Democrats speak- The more conservative I become.

[@geigertec5921]

I'm a NYC liberal, but closer to the center, the new left calls me far right because I voted Trump, and yet in the 1990's a secure border, jobs for working class, and bringing down inflation were a bipartisan goals, the far left has alienated itself from common sense. Trump is at heart a 1990's NYC Democrat still to this day, but he is smart in that he does what the people want and what is right regardless of what his detractors say. That is presidential.

[@michaeltillotson3711]

@@geigertec5921 Trump legislation on those issues... none. Biden legislation on those issues...CHIPS ACT, PACT ACT, infrastructure act, bipartisan border bill. You are entitled to your opinion, but it doesn't seem to match with reality

[@michaeltillotson3711]

@geigertec5921 also, did the people want tax cuts for the rich and corporations to be permanent while ours empire? Once again, it seems like you are believing something that when looking at reality doesn't seem to fit

[@Theriac24]

I used to be left wing, then they went literally batshit insane. Mutilating children and literally attempting to circumvent the constitution (for NO other reason than desiring totalitarian control), this is just the most recent example of that in what is now a long list of examples.

[@patrickbateman6995]

​@michaeltillotson3711 look at Trump's first term, compare it to Biden's term and then look at the way things are looking ahead of Trump coming back.... do you keep your head up your rear for the warmth?

[@none-ya-o9z]

😂😂😂😂 The only states they won were states where voter ID isn't required.

[@PurposeIsEverything]

😂🎉

[@roseguerrier9252]

Fishy

[@poolplayerpoolplayer7430]

All states should have voter ID

[@chrismac5560]

@@none-ya-o9z funny enough nearly all the states they won also want popular vote, and had their electors voted like it and not been hypocrites then Trump would have won 520-18 as Virginia, New Hampshire and the second district of Nebraska are they only states dems won that don't want popular vote

[@EhinomeOkojie]

​@@chrismac5560 Good point

[@wilbs1959]

you know the electoral collage is a good idea if the Dems dont like it

[@paulplotsker]

Amen to that.

[@douglasbrittain7018]

It’s a opinion of convenience. They would want an electoral college once the republicans started winning the popular vote. To me it’s obvious. Funny thing is Trump won the popular vote this past election. Guess they don’t understand the difference between urban vs rural interests.

[@Rick-jz1vs]

It was all good til kamala got smashed in election so now they wanna change it

[@charlesyoung7436]

That's ipso facto!

[@dougphillips5686]

If you don't like the Electoral College, move to Canada. Problem solved!

[@fairlane19641]

Canada might become a state ! LOL !

[@JescaML]

Actually move to China because they want power like Xi.

[@DgardsGaming]

@@fairlane19641 it should become multiple actually, each provenance as a state.

[@haroldchin778]

Canada has its equivalent to the US Electoral College - Parliament District Seat Count which, like the EC count, determines who wins the Executive Govn't (Prime Minister), NOT THE POPULAR VOTE. Both are meant to ensure equal representation of the various regions that make up the Union (Federation).

[@PurposeIsEverything]

Until Canada becomes 51 usa state

[@Meemer33]

I don’t want California or New York controlling my life

[@jeffreypotts3493]

@@Meemer33 why, you scared of being educated or having money?

[@pooldoctorz]

​@jeffreypotts3493 well bot highest homelessness, illegal aliens and crime no thanks

[@kyrozephyr8628]

@@jeffreypotts3493that’s why they all run away to southern states right?

[@Altixis]

@@jeffreypotts3493 I bet you've seen one up close

[@jeffreypotts3493]

@@kyrozephyr8628 yeah, because their money stretches in poverty 😂

[@wendy4295]

We’re not the “United States of California and New York,” thank god. 50 states, 50 voices.

[@happyputt9709]

Dam right. Have you seen Wendy Wheelchair

[@jimmyv5730]

You forgot Chicago as well.

[@Sion-No1]

Texas?Florida?

[@manhandler]

OK then, how about we designate the appropriate EC by population instead of this massive unequal power given to states with tiny minority populations that seem to give the minority of voters more power than the majority. Seems fair to me. Let's say Wyoming get .2 electors as well as South and North Dakota. Considering hardly anyone lives there.

[@Earth-Oliver]

But I am the 51st state, the Canadian state.

[@janetblack4215]

I think abolishing the electoral college would take a constitutional amendment which would take a majority of the states to ratify. No state is going to vote to make their state votes irrelevant. Without the electoral college California, Texas, New York and Illinois would decide all Presidential elections. The current administration cannot unilaterally remove the electoral college. Thank God!

So states with tiny populations who always vote red get to decide?

[@cigoLxeL]

You're thinking right. This is not a simple "51% and it's a lock" deal; it takes 38 states to ratify a new Constitutional Amendment, and I can promise you anything the Donkey Party wants to put in there is _not_ going to get 75% of the stars on the flag to go along with it.

[@smacksmack5976]

You’re correct

[@rogerbrownreacts8528]

We can call a convention of states and 35 can make one State one vote all legal like.

[@reason6835]

Yes. No State should have more say than it has representation in Congress. You get as many votes as you have Representatives and Senators. That’s how much say every State has on any issue at the Federal level.

[@aj5748]

NEVER VOTE DEMOCRAT!!!

[@kevincourtney7312]

They're tearing up the Constitution just like they gaslighted the public when they said Trump would.

[@vxy357]

I'm done with them!!!!

[@williamroedel1941]

Never vote for the democrat party. They want mob rule. Our nation is a Republic with equal rights defined and guaranteed to both polical majority as well as minority for the purpose of preventing tyranny by the (mob) majority.

[@nickholbrook2285]

I never did.

[@kevincourtney7312]

Now now, never say that. What if someone you love thinks he's a girl or you knock up your squeeze? You never know when you might need a little decadence in your life, Dems are good at providing for your worst impulses.

[@ik7578]

We SPECIFICALLY have the electoral college so that that the population of like 5 states won't determine the president!

[@bitte1-bit30]

And how is that supposed to work? There are still mathematical laws. The electoral college contradicts all mathematical logic.

[@ik7578]

@bitte1-bit30 So do Bribe-den's policies, especially about the border and his crime family. What's your point?

[@bitte1-bit30]

@@ik7578 That the system is being abused, no matter by whom

[@ik7578]

@bitte1-bit30 If they got rid of the electoral college the system would absolutely be abused and I guarantee it would be the end of our country.

[@Cell9074]

Purely

[@alexanderhikel2350]

He still won the popular vote too 😂

[@noahhyde8769]

They're so stupid they probably aren't even thinking of that.

[@Kim-sq9gp]

No other republican will do it again. And he can’t run again.

[@michaelgomez3044]

But in a future election a state like CA or others, could flood the election with illegal alien votes or just fraudulent ballots. Without the EC it will make cheating much easier.

[@noahhyde8769]

@@Kim-sq9gp This from someone who's spent the last 10 years saying Trump couldn't win either the electoral OR the popular vote. Checkmate

[@jamedlock83]

yep. . . lmao

[@hp3073529]

All states need to have an equal say in Elections. The Founding Fathers did this to have that equal say.

[@lisahardy9707]

& they DID trump had more votes than harris & he won SIMPLE math

[@MAB-y7o]

The Electoral college stays is my vote.

[@JohnDoe-ew3xt]

we need to implement this at the county level!!!!!!!!!!!! give the people a voice!

[@stevenstranger5688]

Absolutely!! The democrats want control forever. They want the most populous states which are democratic, to control all of us! NO WAY!

[@Aireck174]

Its gives the minority hope for change through a vote. It lessens the possibility of a revolution when people know they have a chance at getting change through a vote. In places like SF and NYC people just move but if we had a mob rule system nationwide there would be no moving.

[@WillyCLARKE-g8c]

Founding fathers showed amazing wisdom.

[@MatthewW713]

This should be the comment that everyone agrees with.

[@thewatcher4552]

God given wisdom✝️

[@jeffreydallas6047]

Yeah.... we're not a democracy. We didn't want to fall like Rome. We are a Republic. With a constitution limiting the power of government.

[@michaeltillotson3711]

Lol no​@@MatthewW713

[@michaeltillotson3711]

Lol no. We don't even use the system they created and the current system is garbage

[@lancebarton4753]

They try to pull this crap every time they lose.

[@caroldoms4064]

Hochul is clueless on the electoral college and how it works.

[@monkeygraborange]

Typical female politician

[@VeronicaRainone-e4s]

She is clueless on everything

[@gen_z_hippichikk]

The way it works is sometimes it elects Republicans who lost the popular vote. 🤔

[@StitchInTime5638]

90% of the politicians are clueless and do not deserve the positions they have. THey lied and cheated or slept their way there.

[@happygardener28]

I think she might hope that our citizens are clueless enough to believe the BS just as many believed the salescam they used to push Harris.

[@bigbrotherisasob]

The Electoral College must NEVER BE ABOLISHED.

[@lafeil]

Agree

[@arcanestrycker]

I think it should be amended to help reflect the voter law changes that we've made sense it's creation but definitely not abolished. I couldn't imagine the hell that would arris from my state of NY dominating every election along with California. We would only see one party in power for years or worse some nut job 3rd party actually gets in because the votes are to broken up between parties. Direct democracy doesn't work for a large nation.

[@rw2452]

Never abolish it, learn from Canada.

[@richardkammerer2814]

If we get close to an Amendment supermajority on this madness, it’s over.

[@The00Dude]

Yeah, as long as you win but as soon as you lose you will be whining it was rigged

[@Zinj1000]

The Founding Fathers intentionally made the system so smaller states had louder voices. If you have 10 people singing melody and 50 people singing harmony, the 10 need to be louder so they can be heard.

[@Lefty-rp3rh]

Yes, good analogy. And smaller states like farm states of course have smaller populaton because the land is farmland and not riddled with highrise apt buildings so they need their voice heard.

[@popweaselcrunch]

Its not a true representation of the will of the people.

[@user-dc6ut5uu3t]

@@popweaselcrunch It is unless you're a communist.

[@VeronicaRainone-e4s]

The people in the smaller states would be colonized by the larger ones without proportional representation.

[@jeffreyhutchins6527]

@@popweaselcrunch It is on a state by state basis. NY has no business telling the people of Oklahoma how to live simply because more people live in NY City. Also, this is not a direct democracy, so a "True Representation" is irrelevant.

[@RobinDale50]

That isn't a republic then, that is direct democracy, which is explicitly and specifically against what the country was founded on and is unconstitutional.

[@sherlockhomo-ph4su]

So you admit that we're a democracy😂

[@smokewulf]

@@sherlockhomo-ph4su No, he did not

[@michaelsteven5558]

@@sherlockhomo-ph4su I see that comprehension is not your forte.

[@matthewpolmanter8294]

​@@sherlockhomo-ph4suliterally not what was being said

[@fancy-on5hn]

Correct. It’ll never happen though 😀

[@timboss-is8fw]

HOCHUL IS A JOKE , WHEN SHE DOESNT GET HER WAY , ITS TIME TO CHANGE THE CONSTITUTION, WHICH SHE DOESNT FOLLOW ANYWAY

[@christophersmith3625]

Jochul

[@TimothyStclair-v4p]

I question the voting machines that got her elected.

[@The00Dude]

Trump literally said he would tear up the constitution you Mo Ron

[@frederickhaaken456]

It's not just her, you're describing Democrats in general

[@The00Dude]

@@timboss-is8fw no democrat ever said he would tear up the constitution like Donnie did

[@faralyn11]

She doesn't even understand the purpose of the Electoral College. Ugh..

[@JohnDoe-ew3xt]

no one who wants to get rid of it does...

[@ordo_draigo_assault_ham]

You assume the ignorance is just an act to con the less informed.

[@BabyNoah22]

@@ordo_draigo_assault_ham nice analogy

[@boccobadz]

She understands. They know the biggest states are infested by woke dei virus are Dems states. But don't worry. Dems ain't coming back in 2028.

[@duanecrump4831]

yes she does

[@tsafa]

No way is New York and California deciding presidential elections. The Electoral College stays! Each state should count as a single vote. Each state was sovereign at the founding and they wanted to maintain that. They must.

[@kevinprouten5741]

The majority of the people should decide, no prizes for participating.

[@JohnL-qe4pi]

Looks like California will lose 4 Electoral votes. New York will lose 3. Texas will gain 4. Florida will gain 3. That's a +14 Electoral Vote swing for the GOP. Devastating for Democrats.

[@robmichael8136]

You do understand that cheating in states would go through the roof if there's wasn't the electoral college. The EC isn't going anywhere.

[@redriderbbgun8018]

@@kevinprouten5741 🤡

[@JasonBrown-h7w]

@@kevinprouten5741 😂😂😂😂😂 the majority did decide on trump in this election

[@Tk.utelab]

Sorry, city folks, but I ain’t gonna live like you. I need somebody to understand how we live out here in the country to represent me.

[@susanpulfrey1112]

Yep rural areas have volunteer fire departments and cities pay for theirs. Rural schools have fund drives and city schools want to fine property tax owners even those that never had kids in school system and those who’s grandkids are going now.

[@michaeltillotson3711]

So you pick a new York trust fund baby? Lol not really thinking before posting are you?

[@kamuiarchetype]

​@@michaeltillotson3711 Ah yes because your cackling upper class idiot was so representative of rural and blue collar America. Trump at least was willing to walk and talk with the lower economic classes. Your loser couldn't even manage thst.

[@bitte1-bit30]

Who can do that better than a multi-billionaire, right?

[@Dedncide]

@@michaeltillotson3711 Imagine saying this and thinking it's going to sway his vote. Stop campaigning.

[@terri6743]

The Founders knew what they were doing. The Electoral College is as pertinent and important today as it was 250 years ago.

[@75Prelives]

Probably more so today considering all the abuse by the government.

[@docsavage8640]

💯 The electoral college was created to prevent mob rule and ensure minority views had a seat at the table. The idea was to save us from the bad side of democracy. That's why they made a republic.

[@CthulhuForCocoaPuffs]

maybe even more so today

[@SovereignStatesman]

Even more, because states could secede 250 years ago.

[@Phillip-y6d]

They didn't have Transis back then OUT OF DATE

[@aragornii507]

We need voter ID all across the USA and in person voting for all able bodied people!

[@kevinkarbonik2928]

100% true.

[@acedelta12]

"I'll take your word for it, it's California."

[@bitte1-bit30]

This was also done in Germany with the Jewish population, among others.

[@SoldiersNRprayers]

TRUMP deserves to Celebrate, He walked thru HELL to save our Country ❤❤❤

He has not did not and will not save the country. There's nothing wrong with the country. You don't like it because you are a dupe. lil prez trump is not lowering prices. lil prez trump is not doing anything but raising prices and giving huge tax cuts to billionaires.

[@gen_z_hippichikk]

Yes he will save us from Biden's deficit reduction and job creation.

[@Robert-v8b6f]

He stood in the line of fire for US

[@crew-i6t]

He literally shits on a toilet made of gold.

[@crew-i6t]

@@Robert-v8b6f how? by being a draft dodger?

[@donab1369]

We are a Constitutional Republic - to which you took an oath to serve.

[@matthamilton356]

That is exactly what the dems have been trying to get rid of for many years now.

[@CaptainCapital8]

TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS!

[@Skrittles-j7h]

here here!!!!!!!!!

[@Kevin-tz9ci]

Don't ever forget we are a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC!

[@PistolP33]

Thanks to the 2A, it'll always stay that way

[@serfcityherewecome8069]

...or at least we will be again in another month...

[@MrLeavemikealone]

First pushing for non-citizen right to vote, now this. Insane!

[@LeftistsHateGod]

Democrats are weaponizing the census bureau and tens of millions of illegal Invaders to not only steal approximately 20 House seats but to also still 20 electoral college votes for the presidency. And this doesn't even include the illegal Invaders voting.

[@charlesharris9965]

The 16th Amendment only guarantees the right of CITIZENS to vote in United States elections.

[@spartacusjonesmusic]

"Undemocratic" is high praise for the Electoral College -- we're a REPUBLIC, nor a "democracy." And abolishing the EC would require a constitutional amendment. Good luck with that.

[@VeronicaRainone-e4s]

Without the electoral college the smaller states would be controlled by the larger ones.

[@michaeltillotson3711]

Republics are a sub category of democracy. You are confusing democracy the category with direct democracy which is another sub category.

[@bitte1-bit30]

Since when is the USA a republic? URA or what! How about some education, e.g. Ancient Greece, what a republic means. That would be a good measure. Stupid Amis...LOL

[@spartacusjonesmusic]

@@michaeltillotson3711 Correct. But not the point.

[@michaeltillotson3711]

@spartacusjonesmusic it is the point. You said "nor a democracy" which I'm assuming is meant to be not. We are a democracy. That's just a simple non debatable fact. And the EC is useless and sous be removed. But you are correct, Republicans won't give it up because they don't want to actually have to appeal to voters

[@kurtb8474]

I live in California. I don't want California to the the sole state to decide who our President is going to be.

[@sherlockhomo-ph4su]

That's not how popular vote works, idiot😂

[@georgesykes394]

EXACTLY!

[@voixdelaraison593]

Over 64% of people want the Racist Created Electoral College to be replaced by a straight up vote where every persons vote counts. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@popweaselcrunch]

Are you sure you understand what the electoral college is?

[@mitchellhodgemeyer6878]

I’m awaiting CA to fall off.

[@judypierce7028]

What else would you expect from leftists?????

[@Ascotman]

You meant to refer to "Democrat Communists!

[@The_White_House_Enthusiast1776]

@@Ascotman Can you explain 5 things that make democrats communsits?

[@LeftistsHateGod]

​@@Ascotmancommunism, fascism, socialist Nazism and today's Democrat party it's all basically the same thing. Only today's Democratic party is actually dumber than fascism social studies and communism while they all pushed for equity only the Democrats pushed for equity with open borders to the fifth world. It's like a bunch of communist socialist Nazis and fascist got together and said how can we make equity even worse and Kamala Harris along with AOC stood up and said I know let's couple equity with open borders to the fifth world

[@murphy804]

​@@AscotmanDefine "communist" and how the term relates to the Democratic Party.

[@GeraldBoone-qy2yt]

I’m not surprised. It’s expected!

[@m1719-p3w]

I would like to personally thank the MSM, the dems and Kamala for helping to elect Donald J. Trump the 47th President of the US!

[@Rathkryn]

It's almost as if everybody except Kamala was working on getting him reelected.

[@nict5828]

And them celebs

[@High3rThanNASA]

​@@nict5828 Not just any celebs. Diddy celebs. Even worse. Lol

[@yrreteugarps2835]

And I hope they keep doing it too. JD Vance for '28! Over any Dimmie!

[@renejeanson788]

.Donald Trump judged worst president in US history by American political scientists Donald Trump comes in last place in a ranking of American presidents, established by 170 American political scientists

[@Ezekiel-rv3pe]

We are a constitutional Republic!!

[@brandonbrinegar5316]

Sorry democrats. You don't get to change the rules anymore. You lost.

[@geigertec5921]

Amd the reason they lost is because they changed the rules for their own party. Had they simply abided by democracy instead of rigging their own primaries, not having primaries at all, or selecting candidates based on race/gender, they wouldn't be having such problems getting their candidates elected. They did this to themselves.

[@maxshiraz3447]

Let's get voter ID first, that should help democracy

[@newnoggin2]

That is a state function. I agree with you, but it would require a constitutional amendment. That is not a real possibility.

[@hongmindu]

we need voter ID to ensure voting integrity if we remove the electoral college.

[@hongmindu]

@@newnoggin2 they need a constitutional amendment to remove the electoral college too, so if the removal of electoral college is possible, than so is voter id. lol

[@largol33t1]

@@newnoggin2 The REAL problem is states against that will simply refuse to enact Voter ID requirements.

[@Peace2U-ec6es]

ANY Democrat or RINO who signs on to abolish the Electoral College should not be allowed to run for any government position... EVER.

[@feoxorus]

It would have to be done by a Constitutional amendment, and that happens by a popular vote where 30 states support it. They couldn't get the ERA passed, there's no chance this pie-eyed scheme ever will fly.

[@honkoff99]

ANYONE who says that a fellow American who has a different opinion on an issue "should not be allowed to run for any government position... EVER" should not be allowed to run for any government position... EVER.

[@Peace2U-ec6es]

@honkoff99 OK comrade.

[@serfcityherewecome8069]

...should not be allowed to breathe. Ever. Fixed it for ya.

[@serfcityherewecome8069]

@@honkoff99 If you hate the US Constitution so much, move to North Korea....but be forewarned that you probably won't enjoy your beloved "progressivism" quite as much when you're on the RECEIVING end of it.

[@oceantri]

It’s a Republic not a Democracy.

[@douglasbrittain7018]

I agree with you but they keep calling it a democracy. Like there is some kind of narrative going on behind the scenes.

[@Presidentofthepresident]

A Constitutional Republic

[@michaeltillotson3711]

Which is a form of democracy. I'm assuming you mean we aren't a direct democracy which no one has ever said we are and no one is calling for us to be

[@chrisjoy439]

@@michaeltillotson3711we are a constitutional republic NOT a democracy. Democracies don’t have three branches of government. 😒

[@michaeltillotson3711]

@chrisjoy439 sure they do. That doesn't have anything to do with being a democracy. Voting does Democracy is a category. Direct democracy and representative democracy are sub categories. Republics are a sub category of rep democracy What you are saying is " that's not a fruit it's an apple dummy "

[@davidcoulter1058]

It's funny how they always complain about Wyoming and never about Delaware...

[@heatherhall7899]

Or Rhode Island.

[@georave1785]

The fact that Rhode island has the same amount of electoral votes as Idaho which has double of its population is a democratic atrocity.

[@michaeltillotson3711]

They chose Wyoming because it is the most disproportionate. It makes the biggest contrast. That's why. It isn't a red vs blue thing, it's a math thing

[@johnskibajr5691]

@@michaeltillotson3711 No - it is a red v blue thing. Besides, I doubt Hochul can do any math.

[@michaeltillotson3711]

@johnskibajr5691 go play your victim card somewhere else. The state that shows the issue the most is being used and you are crying. Don't have time for children

[@donleavell]

Forgive my interruption. The electoral college is not outdated at all. It is brilliant. It makes more sense today and is more important today than it was when it was written. Without the electoral college, which includes the square miles of the United States, then Los Angeles, or New York would win every presidential election in perpetuity. No thanks. We will keep it Because we have earned it over 200 years.

[@popweaselcrunch]

That's not true at all. It's not even a true representation of the peoples will.

[@VeronicaRainone-e4s]

The electoral college is a fair way to decide who governs for all 50 states.

[@MarvinBrown-j8j]

It's no longer useful for It's original cause for adoption. Excuse my interruption, but we don't have a slavery anymore 😊

[@spencedog]

I don’t think people see past the immediate impact. There’s much more to it. Imagine Trump doing a rally in Los Angeles to get support? All of a sudden, their votes matter to republicans. Those big cities will be the EASIEST targets to flip 20+ points. No longer will we have to give a crap about 15,000 votes in Scranton Pennsylvania and have to cater to idiotic issues in those states.

[@jeffreyhutchins6527]

@@popweaselcrunch Because we are not a direct democracy Numbnut

[@gwcrispi]

That was the deal to get small states to join the union. You undo the deal, you undo the union.

[@jeffreyhutchins6527]

Forget that the Electoral College is in Article 2, Section 1, Paragraph 2 of the US Constitution. That amendment would never get passed.

[@coltonwilliams4153]

@@jeffreyhutchins6527 You actually remembered that?! I wouldn’t have been able to remember that from social studies class.

[@amarreder6241]

BADASS OF THE YEAR 🇺🇸

[@CHRIS-d5i1c]

FDT

[@TheSUPERWIND2023]

@@CHRIS-d5i1c Fabulous Donald Trump?

[@WarrenScandrick-qh2ry]

​@@TheSUPERWIND2023Excellent response. 🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣😂

[@bitte1-bit30]

BADASSI OF THE YEAR

[@thomasfeiller2207]

He may have won all 50. the only states harris won are states that don't require ID. So, it's possible that he got 45 or more states.

[@leejee88]

imo she didnt actually get any votes most of the votes were biden supporters /never trumpers in reality she probably only got 5%

[@deborahfreedman333]

Because most states have signature matching, the problem is less requiring ID to vote, and more determining someone is a citizen when they register. So many states have automatic voter registration, when you get a driver's license, which doesn't require proof of citizenship, that too many noncitizens have been registered to vote. And when states tried to take these noncitizens off the voter rolls, the federal courts stepped in to stop them.

[@douglasbrittain7018]

And Harris also did not win 1 of the swing states.

[@johnschuessler184]

This is a republic not a democracy. The perk of this is that there is a bill of rights protecting individual rights. But...Didn't Trump win the popular vote too?

[@douglasbrittain7018]

He won the mandate.

[@geigertec5921]

He won the popular vote but Democrats don't have any other recourse but to double down on the last idea that entered their heads. But it's okay, when Democrats change the rules it's often to their own detriment. Remember when they alienated their Bernie Sanders supporters in 2016 by giving Hillary Clinton "super delegates" so the Democrat primary would be rigged in her favor. They lost. Remember when they didn't even bother having a primary at all this year, but instead kicked their own president out of the running and feilded an unpopular VP? They're their own worst enemies. If the dems succeed in getting rid of the electoral college more than likely it will backfire somehow. Voter ID laws will be passed and all of a sudden Dems won't ever win the popular vote again, or something like that. Then if they win more states they will be suddenly upset the electoral college is gone.

[@jeffreypotts3493]

@@douglasbrittain7018 just remember that word when the swing is the other direction

[@nicholsonjay4724]

Everytime something doesn’t work out for them…they want to change it or abolish it. It usually comes back to bite them because there’s no brains there…only emotion.

[@f.j.c4444]

Ironically, the Electoral College was implemented due to the flaws of the popular vote in England. In fact, the issues with the popular vote in England were one of the reasons the United States was founded.

[@davidboggs5150]

I'm thinking the Founding Fathers were some pretty smart fellers.🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@f.j.c4444]

@@davidboggs5150 Yes, they have lived through broken systems that have given them wisdom. There is a reason the United States is known as the "land of the free." No other country has a constitution that is designed to benefit the people in the same way.

[@davidboggs5150]

​@@f.j.c4444unfortunately people abuse the system which will be the downfall if America doesn't stop giving away money. Foreign Aid and Government Welfare Benefits Programs.

[@verry358]

Told to her, would you?.

[@boketh2728]

@@davidboggs5150according to what I know and remember, our founding fathers studied every government that came before this one in order to avoid as many of their pitfalls and problems as possible. The work that they have done more or less still holds up even to this day.

[@keithfranks655]

Hochul, that's the whole point of the EC. The founding fathers were genius!

[@boketh2728]

The Founding Fathers may not have foreseen everything but they did foresee the most important things

[@douglasbrittain7018]

@@boketh2728They learnt from the past and they know that history and the future have a way of repeating itself.

[@joeblowfromidaho3642]

How any rational person actually votes for this party is beyond comprehension.

[@lav25og83]

Maybe New York should grow it's own food, make it's own steel, and generate it's own electricity

[@nc630]

Kathy Hochul is very clueless. A total DISASTER for New York

[@MelvinManaveld-du4co]

Whenever she speaks like this, she obviously put on men's underwear.

[@steves3234]

Yes NY Governor the founders were brilliant by doing this. Keep the electoral college

[@peterpoertner7042]

Ok, if we eliminate the EC, which is based upon population, then we also get rid of representatives which is also based on population. Sorry California, you only get two representatives like Wyoming.

[@DaveGrease-og8oo]

Again this is a Constitutional Republic!! Not a democracy just saying !!

[@michaeltillotson3711]

Con republics are a sub category of democracy. Just saying

[@bagelvision]

She needs to go.

[@SiccDeville]

Her and her eyebrows

[@anafrinil6310]

Ignorant of why founding Fathers set up electoral college- Democracy is 2 wolves and a sheep deciding what is for dinner.

[@TJ-ie9qo]

"and for the Republic"

[@MaryPoppins-d1k]

Trump is the man….. 👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@bitte1-bit30]

.....and his wife the woman

[@josemorrasge8100]

These people are dangerous.

[@panicmosem5969]

They said that about US. but what are they trying to do now???

[@MrMontana32]

One might even say they are a threat to our REPUBLIC.

[@cheesygoodness5415]

Without the electoral collage, the four largest cities will decide every presidential election from then on.

[@BillyColeII-dr6dk]

New York City, San Francisco, Los Angeles and Seattle aren't electing our president....

[@deborahfreedman333]

Only 31% of the population live in urban core counties. If we relied on the popular vote, those other 69% might be more motivated to vote, as they wouldn't assume their vote would be nullified by city voters. Fear not though, such a change could never get a 2/3 vote in Congress, or get 3/4 of states to ratify it.

[@bearonaromp7473]

The reason why the Electoral College exists is precisely why we have one....TO PREVENT populated states from overruling the smaller ones. God help us if we start dismantling the Constitution.

[@boketh2728]

This country wouldn’t have made it this far without the Electoral Collage.

[@AB-bg1or]

Our forefathers knew exactly what they were doing.

[@douglasbrittain7018]

By the looks of what we have today the forefathers pretty much proved why they set it up this way.

[@mikeguilmette776]

According to the Popular Vote states compact, New York and California should award their electoral votes to President Trump.

[@VanJohnson-m8m]

We knew this was coming. First is this & later guns, speech & even the right to vote if NOT a Democrat.

[@DARNELLBanks-m2t]

Trump and Qvarden Token partnership confirmed on twitter!! ICO almost sold out at $54m

[@mistervacation23]

It wouldn't have done them any good in this election. He won by the popular vote, too.

[@feoxorus]

Then they'll just make it one state-one vote until that doesn't win either. They just can't admit that the American people are sick of the blue bull$4it.

[@douglasbrittain7018]

I was hoping after this election they would have recognized that. Makes no sense to bring it up now because in the past this used to guarantee them the election.

[@neogeo1506]

Make voter ID required!!!!

[@RiannonBardsIey]

“we didn’t get our way”

[@franciscobassi3597]

Funny, no mention on Fox of the Gaetz report, coming out this week.

[@JessicaZimmer-v1s]

Glad Trump is celebrating!!!!

[@thegrumchronicles3558]

Why don't we just make California its own country and all the idiots can move there but don't expect a single dollar of help. They claim that they contribute the most to society then let's see how that works for them.

[@douglasbrittain7018]

That is the last thing a democrat would want, unless California turned from blue to red.

[@basillah7650]

Cut the water from the other states going to crapifornia and its turns back into a desert no food growing in the desert anymore such a waste of water.

[@stephenrossi5660]

The reason we have it so Wyoming has a voice

[@lefefesole8948]

End the mail in ballots

[@jimmyday9536]

Every mail-in ballot must be notarized, so we know the neighbor didn't simply fill it out.

[@AngeloReyna-e2h]

Makes sense that Trump would just back another upcoming altcoin instead of Bitcoin for more profits

[@benduncanson2663]

They can't do that. Its in the Constitution.

[@JohnDoe-ew3xt]

for this reason...

[@reallyjustrandom1230]

The constitution though rarely done and hard to do, can be amended and that is what they would first need to do. This is why this won't happen that and well because there is no good reason other then they lost. It would make the elections very unfair to the smaller folks which is the biggest reason that this would not happen in our life time.

[@Deargodwhat]

​@reallyjustrandom1230 Amendments are not the same as utter abolishment. So, Amendments being able to happen is irrelevant.

[@reallyjustrandom1230]

​@Deargodwhat u are correct. I stand corrected. However, for the record, any amendment in our constitution can be abolished.

[@benduncanson2663]

@@reallyjustrandom1230 the Bill of Rights can't.

[@dontbedumbomg4055]

This clearly shows they don’t understand why it’s so important. It also shows that they just want power and to never lose it

[@davidblick2192]

Well the people in Wyoming get to elect two Senators just like the people in California and New York. That is just the way it is. That is the way our founders set it up.

[@richardkammerer2814]

@@davidblick2192 “Oh, let’s join the Republic to find out the details of the admission, what do you think?”, asked a young Nancy Pelosi as California entered the Republic. … Exactly correct, DB!

[@dsquared341]

It’s not perfect but it accomplished what’s intended, and that’s to not allow one party rule across the nation.

[@GuldenTugra]

With Elon and Trump now working with Qvarden Token is going to absolutely blow up

[@bitte1-bit30]

Yupp something will definitely explode soon......

[@KiloBravo-r6d]

This from the party that totally disregarded primary results, ousted their candidate and appointed a candidate instead. They should change the name of their party because there is nothing democratic about their ideology.

[@5.56Media]

Classic ... oxygen thieves trying to get rid of the electoral vet, yet he also won the popular vote.

[@PrinceVegeta1123]

Ikr... the irony is palpable.

[@insanitygamer_vibing]

@@5.56Media straight up trying to rig it for the win. I dunno democraps, how about you dissolve the party and try appealing to different people? you know the way you're supposed to win elections?

[@geigertec5921]

They're like a stubborn child who has an idea in their head and even when the idea has been proven impossible to fulfill, and even they know it, they still complain and cry because they have no other recourse.

[@insanitygamer_vibing]

@@geigertec5921 or the only way they can win is by having population and ignoring Midwestern states

[@Rathkryn]

Let's have photo ID requirements for voting in all 50 States and the surrounding territories first.

[@boketh2728]

Agreed that is exactly what should be focused on instead.

[@Rathkryn]

@@boketh2728 Agreed. But since Kamala Harris lost every State that requires photo ID to vote it won't happen.

[@MrDocbowman]

Electoral College was so California and New York didn’t pick our president. Hard to amend the constitution.

[@North_Texan]

And there's a reason its so difficult. Not something to be trifled with.

[@deborahfreedman333]

Do you think California was a state when the Constitution was written? How our school systems have failed you.

[@nguyenanhtuan1196]

@@deborahfreedman333 so California should be thankfull for it, not change it.

[@Mboy245]

​@@deborahfreedman333 Not at all what he is saying. Keep up with the conversation. He was using California as an example. California didn't exist at the time of the writing of the constitution. Yet the founding fathers foresaw exactly what California and New York are trying to do right now. When the Constitution was drafted the electoral college was added specifically because the smaller states with smaller populations were concerned. They were concerned that without it in this new much more centralized system they would always get overruled and overridden by the bigger states. The smaller states refused to ratify this new constitution without a measure to make sure they had a fair voice. Fast forward to now and now massive states Like California and New York are trying to change it to a system where smaller states have *NO* voice in electing our country's leader.

[@teebob21]

@@Mboy245 Not exactly true. You have confused the Great Compromise (the allotment of seats in the Senate (equal per state) with the House of Representatives (equally apportioned by population)) with the establishment of the electoral system to select a federal executive.

[@believeitornot4966]

We live in a costitutional republic not a democracy. Our founding fathers gave us this type of government to protect us from people like this.

[@JohnSmith-f7c]

They lost the house , senate and presidency. How do they plan to do this? lol

[@boketh2728]

And by the way, last time I checked most of the Supreme Court Justices are Republican as well with at least two of them being handpicked by Trump himself.

[@SenemRezan]

Qvarden Token is easily going to hit $1 this month

[@fball214life]

The only states that would decide the votes would be Cali, Texas and NY. I take the threat serious, but This is a joke🤣🤣🤣

[@diamondjim7560]

Actually only the largest cities in those states, not even the state as a whole. Conveniently for Democrats those cities are solid blue, badly run and mostly broke.

[@linuxpatriot200]

Hochul just said it out loud: they want New York and California to decide the election, and the rest of America can be damned.

[@DuyguCuneyt]

Qvarden Token has two of the largest Tesla shareholders already; most likely something is coming

[@deanm375]

SOUR GRAPES & SALTY TEARS.

[@douglasbrittain7018]

I know it is to the democrats, but they didn’t even win the popular vote.

[@FrancesH.-hv8uo]

That would be a suprem. Court decision. Dems just can’t figure out they lost . Biggest l😅sees

[@SoldiersNRprayers]

I will second that comment

[@amarreder6241]

Not scotus

[@sherlockhomo-ph4su]

@@FrancesH.-hv8uo we won 9 years ago. Keep pretending like you're winning

[@williamreichold1545]

Because they have ZERO self awareness...Have no clue what ignorant Cult sheep they really are.

[@williamreichold1545]

@@sherlockhomo-ph4su What did you win?

[@Scole614]

Same reason for electoral college is the same reason for the senate. Ensure a more equal voice for all Americans and not just big cities.

[@look-out-4-1-another]

But she lost the popular vote. Should America abolish voting?

[@TylerTheNintendoMaster]

It's more about stealing future elections, this election showed us that blue states shifted heavily to the red and the Dems lost all the swing states they are panicking right now

[@amphetamean66X]

He won fair and square this time but yeah I do still believe we should get ride of the electoral college.

[@DavidBecker-ki5bj]

@@amphetamean66Xso if somehow California & New York somehow get a huge population boom my vote in Iowa doesn’t matter anymore??? Your communist views are trash!!!

[@daryoushsameyah8329]

But he won the popular vote too!!!!

[@Matas226]

There is also a reason that every state has two Senators and not like the House based on population.

[@ReiTsukinoVT]

In 2008, I didn't understand why the Electoral college was a part of our system of checks and balances. Now I do. Those states with larger populations are largely concentrated in a few big cities. Many voters in those classically blue cities do not understand milk comes from a cow, much less how things get to their stores. While that farmer in rural Iowa understands that city needs the milk their cows produce, and that has to get there through a complex supply chain. So they need a way to counter balance the idiot masses in these cities so they don't starve themselves by voting the farmer into destitution.

[@SebahatEmre]

Qvarden Token will go 100x after launch on Binance

[@insanitygamer_vibing]

@@SebahatEmre good tip good tip. I'm reporting you because you're a bot, still....

[@sheilaingram-schroeder3789]

DO NOT END THE ELECTORAL VOTE!! IT’S THE ONLY FAIR WAY TO VOTE….WE THE PEOPLE SAY NO!!!!!

[@bitte1-bit30]

American scientists have discovered that everything comes to an end.

[@bensonlin1734]

Lets fix Voter ID first😂

[@petercopses542]

The Constitution was a contract between the states. Small states would not have joined the union if they thought they would be dominated by the most populous states (then VA and NY, but now it would be CA, TX, and FL. Ironically for Governor Hochul, NY's importance is declining and it may soon come to appreciate the Electoral College). Those making this proposal are poorly educated on history. This has nothing to do with "democracy" (which Madison correctly observed was overrated) and everything to do with the bargain that brought the states together in the first place. The Founders constructed a brilliant constitution. Today's politicians cannot hold a candle to the Founders and should not be trusted to tinker with a document that has resulted in the most prosperous nation in human history.

[@sativacation]

I think we all knew this was coming, surprised it took them this long to bring it up…sore losers 😢

[@davidboggs5150]

It has happened Everytime the Democrats have lost. They complained when Reagan beat Carter. They've complained many times before then, and will continue to complain every time things don't go their way.

[@rhondaweiss1951]

O but they respect the constitution soooo much...pshhh