SOS Bros React - Chainsaw Man Episode 12 - "Katana vs. Chainsaw"

[@SemblanceofSanity]

HOLY SPIDERMAN 2 ON A TRAIN THAT FIGHT WAS AWESOME!! Please please please please please please please please please please Mappa give us Season 2 of this eventually! If you want to see the full-length timer reaction of this episode, check out our Patreon: www.patreon.com/semblanceofsanity

[@Serrovin]

That dream was also how episode 1 starts.

[@purplebunnie9590]

Are you guys reacting to My hero academia soon?

[@thebacklashwaveV]

Remember that everywhere that make contracts with the gun, his flesh is there

[@abura2980]

The author is huge cinephile, so I'm glad MAPPA tried to reference that Spider Man 2 or Wolverine reference

[@ShinyaKougami]

13:57 the reference to Hunter x Hunter episode 51, when Chrollo made a requiem for Uvo... that was amazing lol

[@DarthPA]

Also you should notice how before the cigarette is smoked everything in this episode goes pretty easily and at the end,Aki gets revenge for Himeno. But then when he smokes the cigarette, we only see him smoke the part that says "Easy" but "Revenge" is still visible implying that revenge will no longer be easy.

[@halejordan]

Yeah it's such a cool detail they added.

[@pauline_f328]

Whoa cool, hadn't noticed!

[@bennogb5069]

but the thing is "Revenge" is not shown to be smoked away, so its still up in the air what will happen with his motivation... Such a genius way of telling you things subtly AND it wasnt shown even in the manga, just implied.

[@feo_san]

Maybe Denji is not the smartest shonen protagonist, but at least he didn't spend three seasons figuring out that he can use his legs.

[@jross7287]

Denji ain’t even stupid, he’s uneducated

[@coldfury2652]

The biggest subtle jab at deku I’ve ever seen

[@MitsumiProtecc]

Clearly didn't actually watch the show

[@miramaxcinemax5512]

that revelation was delivered as some lost buddhist secret or something, too :D

[@reginaldmeta2762]

AYOOOO LMAO

[@DarthPA]

Something to note about the dream you were talking about is that it is shown at the beginning of the anime BEFORE Denji fuses with Pochita.

[@aaas3249]

The bit with Aki smoking the cigarette was an anime original addition

[@rome8531]

And it's fäcking great

[@komos3719]

They're really going strong with those

[@joelsasmad]

Aki actually gives up smoking after this. We never see him light up again in the manga.

[@OnionKnightRises]

This is why passion projects are so cool, the staff knew enough about the manga to know this wouldn't conflict with anything, and also adds a lot of meaning to it.

[@vietnguyenquoc9173]

It's easy to miss because of how little screentime he's actually had, but Katana Man is written as the perfect foil to Denji for this season. - He grew up pampered by his grandfather, and thus he was willing to turn his head away from his grandfather's "necessary evil" crimes. Denji was treated like an animal and betrayed and killed by said grandfather. - Despite this, Katana still insists that his grandpa was in the moral good. In their confrontation in the finale, he assumes Denji is lying about his grandpa turning into a zombie and instead killed him out of some malicious intent. He then justifies this by saying Denji is stupid (and uneducated, in the manga translation). We can see here that Katana Man has been spoiled for a long time, and believes that his education has given him the moral high ground over Denji, who he also considers an animal. - Of course, since we've been following Denji since the beginning, we know that isn't true. Despite Denji not being exactly in the moral good, he was very much justified in killing the grandpa and his buddies. He's someone who knows what it's like to have been at the very bottom of the food chain, but Katana looks down on him because he believes that those at the bottom deserve their spot there. It's a case of an ignorant, spoiled brat vs. someone who had to fight his way up. - This is why he loses, eventually. He underestimates Denji's intelligence. He assumes Denji's some sort of wild beast that attacks loudly and incoherently, but Denji's training pays off and he comes up with a plan that Katana can't anticipate.

[@princessemerald849]

Brilliant comment. It's so funny to me how he's insisting that Denji should apologize to him for killing a bunch of mafia zombies while the latter is the one trying to save an innocent human lady from being killed as an (easily avoidable!) casualty. Not to mention Himeno and the other already dead humans. Like if hypocrisy had a picture in the dictionary it would be Katana man. Just say you want revenge and skip on the moral preaching dude

[@OddManeuver]

I believe in the episode that had Aki’s flashback, his parents were reading the Town Mouse and Country Mouse book to his younger brother. Subtle, but people can read the story if they want to know how it relates to CSM.

[@shanedsouza189]

Town mouse and the country mouse is such an interesting drop off point for s1. It seems like Denji is being given a choice to move up and see a much bigger, nastier world, or stay small and live a simple life.

[@billygoat1547]

The significance of Denji’s win cannot be understated, he took out the guy who almost destroyed the entire crew previously. He’s at least has capability of that

[@madladdie7069]

What I like is that Denji's still not at Katana Man's level. He's obviously inferior feat wise but won because of a little trolling on his part.

[@BayesianBeing]

@@madladdie7069 he always wins like that when you think about it

[@billygoat1547]

@@madladdie7069 that too it’s like he’s grown but in a realistic way

[@feuvissound2249]

That's also what I like about denji as a protagonist. He doesn't really use the power of 'friendship' to beat villains or OP abilities (for now). He used resourcefulness or trickery to actually win.

[@SamuelPulkkinen-jp8ev]

You make it sound like Katana was way more capable than he was. The guy got to ambush them with a gun, had to be resurrected once, got saved from Ghost Devil and got supported by several other people with guns against Denji.

[@heibk-2019]

Just wanna say that most people think this is the weakest arc in the story, everything coming after this is way crazier.

[@supleehum7656]

madness of s1

[@gold_spin1639]

Yeah, it’s one of those cases where it’s not bad, but compared to everything that happens later, it looks lame in comparison.

[@monkeyman4346]

in s2 we'll probably be getting bomb devil and assasination arc

[@jatinchanchlani8982]

Unfortunately, it is. Just like Jujutsu kaisen, the story hasn't even started yet. It's just mc fighting villain and subtle drops of the main villain. I love Aki's progression though in this whole season. It's amazing

[@creamy3387]

@@supleehum7656 3>4 not even close rn tbh 2>4 too tbh makima and assassination and bomb arcs all better than current by a long long shot

[@crackracing7900]

"That's a pretty dumb reason",says Power to Denji in Episode 4,about his dream. This part of the series is Fujimoto going full throttle with his references. The last cigarette that Himeno gives Aki,with the words "easy revenge!" in english,is a clear homage to Fooly Cooly,and it's iconic "never knows best" cig. That entire scene is incredible,Ushio's music just elevates it. Hearing poor Aki say "I'll join you soon,Himeno" hurts everytime :( And then,we have the train scene,which is most definitely just Fujimoto wanting to show his Spiderman 2 fanboy-ism. He even has characters from his previous manga outright mention the movie in the exact same location lmao. But by far my favourite homage,and by extension,scene from this first part of the series,is the nut kicking constent. Not only is it 1:1 to the ending of Inglorious Basterds (Denji even mimicks Brad Pitt by saying something like "and that just doesn't sit well with me"),but it also seems to be paying tribute to Uvogin's requiem scene from Hunter x Hunter. Fujimoto wears his heart on his sleeve. I think that moment incapsulates the entirety of CSM and its author,to an extent: at the end of their mission,our squad has gained nothing. The government got pieces of the gun,sure,but getting revenge for Himeno didn't bring her back. That hole will never be filled again. So why is it that two dudes releasing their frustration on a dude by making him squeal looks so uplifting? Fujimoto is just trying to tell us to cling to life as hard as we can,even if it's the most absurd,meaningless things in life that keep you going. Your reasons to live,in a world as broken as ours,are still just as valid as anyone else's,even if it's just taking care of a cat,knowing what a boob feels like,or kicking a guy in the dick. His editor says that a big reason as to why he's earned himself such a gigantic following is because,being a guy in his 20's still,he understands the worries of his generation,the rise in poverty,the dehumanizing jobs,the cities that feel like soulless machines trying to swallow you whole,and puts it to paper. So I can only thank him for helping me find a lot of light between all the bleakness. I also love that it feels like,in the end,there's a lot of previous history between Sawatari,Katana Man and their posse that we're simply not privy too. We don't even get the dude's name,for god's sake. Chainsaw Man is very fast paced,yes,but I think it only adds to that feeling being kept in the dark under the government that just amps up the frustration and the sense of loss. Why did Himeno have to die for these nameless goons,just looking for revenge? It all feels so meaningless. Lastly,that door scene. In the same way Denji had that moment of realization at the start of episode 10,it always felt to me like something at the back of his head is telling him that he deserves none of the nice moments his life has given him recently. Love that the season ends exactly where it began:with that door dream,right before Denji wakes back up to go to work again. Nothing has changed inside him. Here's some trivia that's probably coincidental: The Texas Chainsaw Massacre,which is clearly a direct inspiration for CSM,was localized in Italy as "Non aprite quella porta",meaning "Don't open that door". Spooky. If you loved this part of CSM,stick around,because it really is a work that just keeps building and building upon itself,and becomes even better on a second read/watch,once you understand the bigger picture. Excited about what may come next!

[@antonypastrikos7036]

Thank you for your comment, loved every part of it!!

[@princessemerald849]

love your analysis sm

[@やま-t7i7s]

About violence fiend, the Japanese term "bouryoku" does not specify violence into gang violence nor organized crime violence. "Bouryoku" means general violence and therefore the violence fiend holds such a strong power that being fiend is not enough to restrain his power, thus in need of wearing a poisoned mask. So Jacob's first interpretation is right about him being weaker but still so strong that he wears the mask.

[@affable8696]

Thanks for the clear-up. Seems some fans were caught by the Overthinking Devil.

[@testadizzy95]

Thanks for confirming it. The Kanji for that word 暴力 means the same thing in Chinese, simply as "violence". But I couldn't be sure because I'm not a native Japanese speaker.

[@zura17]

he should be the strongest devil then, since violence is what people fear the most alongside the unknown

[@kingjaylen9712]

@@zura17 I think it's because people don't say "oh no! He's violent!!" They say "oh no! He has a gun!!" Weapons of violence are the physical manifestations of the word. Humans are very visual so it's easier to fear those over the metaphysical

[@庫倫亞利克]

But still his "serious mode" dropkick only does scratch damage to [spoiler character]. It's not like he's apocalyptically strong or something.

[@LongKestrel]

Caleb alone accounts for 90% of the Spider Devil's strength.

[@Kingshadowac]

I found nut shot contest extra funny because the dialogue reminded me of the phantom troupe after Uvo died.

[@isaiascanete6651]

I took it as a subtle tribute to HxH

[@Dewiant20241]

Yes :)

[@_syzygy_]

It was a reference yeah. I actually find it upsetting that so many reactors who have watched HxH didnt catch it

[@affable8696]

@@_syzygy_ Heatah and Hustlah are the real ones for catching it right away. Seems like HxH is their favorite show

[@庫倫亞利克]

I think the line "this is a requiem we play for you" is a direct homage to the Phantom Troupe's revenge for Uvo.

[@KingdomCome257]

Fun Fact: In the Manga, when the bladed men dropped out of the building, they immediately dropped into the train, MAPPA added in the rooftop stuff, all the dueling and conversation because they are just that Goated

[@madladdie7069]

What I find interesting is how vague the "Denji might have lost his empathy" thing seems to be. To me at least, it's looks like just a by product of his traumatic upbringing leading him to both being closed off and not really knowing himself. Probably doesn't help that he only knew Himeno for a few days.

[@sarafontanini7051]

plus the one person directly questioning about him is a pretentious, murderous asshole trying to find reasons why its okay for him to mruder denji and a bunch of other people around him and is otherwise EXTREMELY biased so it's not like we can use him as a reference point. personally I jsut think its because denji's had a shitty life and not because of vague magic bullshit that may or may not even be a thing.

[@pat_1308]

I think it's supposed to be ironic - Denji thinks and Sideburns dude claims that Denji has lost empathy due to him literally having a Devil for a heart now, but Denji's actions so far in the series show that no, he's not devoid of empathy. The fact that Denji even worried about that at all (even if briefly) speaks volumes.

[@Squiddyize]

@@pat_1308 Denji even protected the lady in the train and it cost him his arm. Samurai Sword is just a huge hypocrite and a sheltered and spoiled child, the exact opposite of Denji.

[@leethas]

"Easy Revenge" Earlier today I realized the goddamn bowling shot in the OP was a friggin' reference to the nut-shot contest between Aki and Denji. The Japanese word for nuts, 'kintama', liteally means "golden balls"... 🤣

[@shiggydiggy6847]

The vibe Katana Man always gave me was that he is like a protagonist of a revenge story that we are seeing from the antagonist's point of view.

[@gabrielvera9972]

I love how mappa just shot at manga readers at the end teasing the arc thats coming (about the girl at the end)

[@juzox5161]

the truth behind the door isn't so grand but definitely impactful on Denji....I do love how they assume Pochita is some major threat or something scarier, than what's actually behind the door

[@ironeche3702]

@@juzox5161 we still don't know what Pochita is, he may be a concept a lot scarier than we thought

[@nakanaka-pm5vv]

Himeno gave all of herself to the ghost-devil but the cigarette belongs to Aki. So it is a breach of the contract for the ghost-devil to have it. Because the ghost-devil would not be able to return the cigarette to Aki if Aki died, so the ghost-devil had to stop attacking once and return it. The writing on the cigarette is a tribute to "FLCL".

[@holybanana8182]

the point about the violence fiend is probably what you guys thought, even with the massive nerf of being a fiend, the violence fiend is so strong it still needs a mask to be held back

[@himatlalsanghvi5503]

Same here

[@Some.username.idk.0]

Wasn't it mentioned the violence fiend didn't get weaker after becoming a fiend?

[@nouvelle147]

@@Some.username.idk.0 "But this one is dangerous EVEN as a fiend" is the wording used, so I believe he still got weaker, it's just that he was crazy strong before

[@SusieBlup]

But how does the mask hold him back? I didn't understand that part

[@nouvelle147]

@@SusieBlup His mask pumps him a posion gas which weakens him.

[@sbwb9146]

that ending...BEST GIRL IS HERE BOYS The next arc is such a mind blow

[@Halucygeno]

I'm really curious about the VA - since (I'm trying to be vague and spoil as little as possible) she'll have to pronounce some non-Japanese dialogue... Really looking forward to hearing how it sounds.

[@leedss11]

@@Halucygeno VA already did anime where she speak "that".

[@Halucygeno]

@@leedss11 Yooo, great! I'm stoked!

[@_syzygy_]

@@Halucygeno i mean, the non japanese language will be butchered as usual. What even is there to wonder about?

[@sveta96533]

well i don't like her SPOILER manipulations of Denji

[@tapwater000]

Oh man I cannot wait for season 2, the action is gonna be bombastic.

[@himatlalsanghvi5503]

I see what you did there

[@brandonzamora5470]

Tsss

[@Eumar_A7]

hopefully we can see some ''dark'' shit in s2.

[@jordanl7685]

This has been SUCH a good adaptation. As a manga reader, I am left feeling quite fulfilled.

[@Kramer_.]

Don't know why lot of people don't expect s2. Mappa clearly love fujimoto's works😌

[@cozyakira]

they wouldn't tease a certain someone at the end without having a season 2 in mind

[@あい-u1c9n]

I think next arc is gonna be movie because Reze arc is too short to be in season 2

[@piggysteelheart5403]

@@あい-u1c9nthey can also adapt first chapter of arc after that, as a cliffhanger for season 2. If it is like 11 episodes, they can fit reze in 10

[@piggysteelheart5403]

but the movie would be great too. Imagine the art

[@karowana]

Nothing in life is guaranteed

[@Gunlot97]

as someone who did not read the manga, I loved these post-episode analyses, I don't know if you took it into account but what the girl says at the end is fable.

[@saotiago]

if i am not mistaken, it's the same fable brought up in episode five! that aki's parents are reading to the younger brother. very curious to see how it ties up to the plot.

[@komos3719]

Be careful looking it up, with how linked it is to the show and it rising in the trends, wouldn't want you to get spoiled by accident

[@sarafontanini7051]

the story of the country mouse and the city mouse is tied to the story's major themes, is all I'll say about this.

[@tartoflan]

What a perfect ending for the season. Being a manga reader trully is carrying the curse of knowledge

[@anitaremenarova6662]

A cool detail is that we finally get to see how the Katana man turns, he pulls his hand off to reveal a katana tip in his wrist!

[@johnwolfer3239]

Code: Easy Revenge Something that makes speculation in this series difficult is that every devil has its own motivation and personality. Pochita was just a cute little chainsaw, but we've seen multiple devils have some kind of beef with him or desire for his heart. Some devils are basic in just wanting to kill and eat. One could argue that Power and the Bat Devil had the same base personality. Both had a basic devil personality but also found an individual that they cared for, Power with Meowy and Bat with Leech, but we see how these two diverged drastically after a certain point. Similar logic can be applied to contracts as each one is unique. The Fox only let's individuals she thinks are handsome summon her head while everyone else gets a limb. Future took so much from those other two, but basically gave Aki free futuresight for the fun of it. Snake asked for a fingernail to take out Ghost that wanted someone's whole body. Devils don't all operate on conventional logic, but some also do. The only verified things we have on the Gun is that it blew across two continents with an ocean between them and killed over a million people. We don't know why it did that. As far as we know, it was an accident when it grew unexpectedly powerful from all the fear generated. It is still evil but may not have intended to do something that big. It lost flesh in the process so it obviously is not indestructible. If you want to speculate on the deals it's doing now, after the news covered up gun crimes and gun laws were enacted, it was was weakened. It landed in eastern Asia and got stuck in hiding there to avoid detection. Now it's trying to slowly build power back up by reintroducing guns at a cheap rate. It doesn't want the same uncontrollable burst of power that damaged itself, so it doesn't make them absolutely free deals. It may want a gradual rate of increase in strength so that it can manage itself. Again, pure speculation as we have no verified data.

[@akii1449]

リアクターの中でSOSブロのリアクションが一番好きだ

[@FlubbedPig]

It's Denji's dream. We saw it in episode 1 before the two ever actually fused.

[@makima2883]

Chainsaw feet was also shown in the previous ep, the short scene with Kishibe you can see Denji's pants ripped apart

[@thaumaturgeslit7759]

The Nut Devil has formed a second contract, now both Denji and Aki have used its power to demolish someones balls.

[@coranbaker6401]

Shoot, it was just a 12 episode season? How did I not know this!? I want more!

[@yeah4851]

I guess read the manga or wait a few years

[@ano2846]

Hate to say it, but Chainsaw Man is a bit too short of a series to make into a 24 episode season. The manga is split into 2 parts, and we're still at the beginning of part 2. Part 1, though, ended somewhere around chapter 90, and this season ended around the mid-30s.

[@gabrielcossa5488]

@@ano2846 They could end it with another 12 episodes season and a movie

[@Afterguar]

Fujimoto has admited that one of his references for Chainsawman was Dorohedoro!

[@eatsilva5136]

Yeah, but everything Fujimoto draws is dorohedoro levels of weird

[@Seissmo]

I’m hoping we get a Season 2 sometime in the future! This was a fun journey.

[@reactionssenpai]

We certainly will

[@Faynwulf]

We will in.... around 2024.

[@ОгурцыМолодцы-з5к]

We will, cause Mirai Saiko!

[@dankerbooper]

Considering that we probably have AOT the Actual Final Season, Jujutsu Kaisen Season 2, and Dorohedoro Season 2 somewhere in between... You'll have to wait a bit.

[@PluffyCZ]

I actually wonder, do we? I mean I'm a manga reader, but don't worry, without spoiling anything -- let's say if they do season 2, it will cost a LOT of money. Animators would "die" from overworking :(

[@gunsmithcat7542]

The door-scene reminds me of both Attack on Titan and Naruto at the same time --- for reasons. My fav. moment in this episode was Aki's little smile, showing him warming up to the "fiends".

[@wanderblitz]

Caleb's theory is so close yet so far, goddamn I can't wait for these bros to see the final arc of part 1.

[@azertyqwerty8398]

That fight between the hybrids was so good! I was really afraid that it would look like two guys flailing angrily, but they got the "camerawork" and choreography just right.

[@msguy5877]

Jacob right from the start, "harder daddy"!!🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Xemnas283]

Bro down tremendous 😭

[@deez4886]

Aki with the chrollo lucifer reference there at 13:56 lol.

[@zoembie]

cant wait for the rest of the manga to be adapted

[@Syrius_Li]

Nothing beats a core bonding moment between two friends than torturing some dudes nuts

[@jessbellis9510]

Remember that everyone remaining in the Special Division is crazy - Kobeni especially since she's basically the only "normal" human left in the group with their whole life ahead of them.

[@bigscheesy4982]

Funny that you mention spiders being top 10 fears, japan is actually afraid of cockroaches way more, similar to how other cultures are of spiders. And also a fiend is much less powerful than a normal incarnation of a devil.

[@princessemerald849]

the japanese have their priorities straight

[@raysouther6949]

13:46 It is a perfect H×H tribute. (Uvo: massacre HIMENO: kicking nuts.)A sad but magnificent masterpiece, a great end to a great season.Season 2 will no doubt be another masterpiece. The future rules!

[@X3MAntics]

A little disappointed they didn't catch it.

[@azertyqwerty8398]

They did not say that Sawatari handed a gun and munitions to the people who made a contract with the Gun devil. They just said that she put them in contact with it. The pistols could have appeared out of thin air once the contract was signed for all we know.

[@fourth-dimensionalbeing9737]

I think, if it wasn't for the future devil residing in Aki's eye, he wouldn't have been able to catch Kobeni's movement and tell her to stop.

[@m..na.]

Can’t believe it went by so fast 😢

[@mentholnewport]

The future devil actually does say it rules. However he loves death and seeing horrible deaths. So what is horrible and tragic to us, is awesome to him. Aki understands this when he says it. So basically Aki's death is going to be so awful that the devil is willing to not take anything from Aki in the contract so long as he gets to watch Aki die.

[@고양이-v6t2j]

13:14 he say "it's not like Himeno would've wanted that" also he didn't want to vent his anger like this but look cigarette ''easy revenge!' and he wants to

[@znyan1077]

Easy Revenge 32:27 "'TWAS FORETOLD" LMFAOO Yes it was actually 😭 The kanji for Testicles/Kintama is 金玉. "金" Gold "玉" Ball/Jewel I have seen no discussions about what the gold ball in the opening actually signified but it's really just foreshadowing for Denji and Aki destroying katana man's balls 💀

[@hadalwisp3075]

I think the answer to why Denji doesn't feel anything when killing zombies is in the same previous chapters, it's not that he doesn't have his human side, it's that he never really had it because of how he lived and other treated him

[@makima2883]

Code: Easy Revenge Ghosts, especially in movies are known for finishing unfinished business, like how most ghosts are victims of abuse, rape, murder, and whatnot. Seeking revenge and the death of the ones who hurt them. The case for Aki is similar, with the Ghost Devil finishing Himeno's unfinished business with Aki, giving him the cigarette she promised to give him in his time of need. No different from the Snake's ability to swallow things and spit it out, because Snakes are known for swallowing their prey's whole. As for the cigarette, a popular theory before is that it was written by Himeno to give Aki for when the big day of killing the gun devil comes. The dream scene was shown in the beginning of the first ep, right before Denji woke up and got ready for work, before the fusion with Pochita.

[@Coballes19]

The girl at the end has same voice actress as akane from SSSS Gridman.

[@andreant862]

That's the best contest ever, AND he is immortal meaning even if the nuts pop they'll just reform so you can continue the contest for a looong time

[@lucckyZ]

Oh man, the post credits-like teaser scene was so cinematographic. The one thing that's really special about this adaptation, and it's a really good thing ngl. Also, it's insane to me that people that read the manga says this is the boring part of the manga, that it really gets good after this arc. WTF is coming man???? We'll probably only gonna see it like, a year from now, minimum.. But holy shiieeeet. Let's go. Also, hopefully Mappa slows down a lil bit (with the next season coming up, they probably won't). But I'd like to see a production quality like Bones with MOB (the whole season 3 being ready before it came out). During the last episodes from CSM, a bunch of staff was complaining about overwork, and little time to finish the episodes. Hopefully they come back better prepared with season 2.

[@shlooter6610]

Denji: you shouldn't have gone for the head

[@-Midnightstorm-]

Seeing how much you enjoyed chainsaw man I would also recommend you to check out the other works of Tatsuki Fujimoto, especially Goodbye Eri, the latest one-shot he made.

[@highlander31527]

12:01 I don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet, but what is Denji's favorite move? What did he tell Aki in episode 2 in their fight? And now he has chainsaws coming out of his legs? Of course he is going to keep kicking people in the nuts. He's just way more dangerous with it now.

[@AttackRunRepeat]

The angel devil is a male

[@ryanbagley3293]

I think the depth of the fear is important as well. Spiders are big scary, but your average spider can be dealt with via a rolled up piece of paper for your average person, extream phobias not withstanding. What are you going to do about someone coming at you with a chain saw, metal teeth slowly ripping its way through your flesh, unyielding chains shattering your bones with an ear splitting roar of its engine like the growl of an anger beast! Granted fear is fair subjective

[@unofficial5151]

Incredible finale, cannot wait for s2 (hopefully). 2022 for anime has been short of amazing and csm is definitely one of the best this year

[@PureYang0]

Also the conversation at the end, when considering Denji's point of view, those mafia guys who turned into zombies didn't "try" to kill him. They successfully ripped him apart, they killed him, threw his body parts into a trash can disrespectfully. The only reason he's alive is because a devil chose to fuse with him. So ofcourse, the first thing he'd want to do, NEED to do, is get vengeance on the very zombies who just finished slaughtering him. So Denji had a great and justified reason to kill those mafia goons.

[@jiao987]

Manga readers be like THAT BENCH THAT BENCH THAT TRASH BIN WOWOWO

[@dayanadudeshova9175]

The Angel Devil is a guy 😅😅

[@andeven1]

Just wanted to say, the power of the devils aren't equivalent to fear only, it is about how the concept's name sounds like, the strength associated with it. Fear can be one of the factors, mystery can too be another. Basically the Rule of Cool.

[@shanedsouza189]

13:55 Caleb's soul leaves his body

[@Jagaimo_chan]

暴力 means violence in general As a native speaker I can confirm that

[@marianisrocha]

We'll meet our best girl next season!!! can't wait to have my heart broken all over again :'D

[@andeven1]

Ghosts are often related with unfinished business. The Ghost Devil took everything of Himeno, even her love for Aki. So it was the devil who passed on the cigarette.

[@PetarBladeStrok]

Requiem nuts kicking scene was actually a reference to Chrollo's requiem for Uvogin from Hunter x Hunter! 😂

[@BeforeIforgot]

I saw a good theory that the Ghost Devil stopped choking Aki because it saw his fear and RECOGNISED him through his connection to Himeno

[@owenbridgers]

51:09 you guys are describing exactly what the Fox Devil’s relationship with Aki was. Fox found him attractive until he had it do something it couldn’t do, and left him

[@sveta96533]

13:51 I immediately remembered the legendary "Uvo-san, do you hear us? This is our requiem for you" from Hunter x Hunter, Yorkshin's arc. Like the author for a funny reference to one of the coolest scenes with Spiders) 9:09 By the way, there is also a funny parallel with H x H. The dialogue of the "avenger" and the "villain" is false-mirrored. Instead of Kurapika and Uvo, this is the grandson of mafia-grandpa (who killed only sooome women and children lol) and Denji (who was grandpa's debt slave), and the "victims" are not innocent members of the secret clan, but the mafia-grandpa with his accomplices, who were turned into zombies)))))) For starters, what I like about Denji is that he's always true to himself. In one of the episodes he said that revenge is dark crap and he doesn't like that. And turned revenge for Himeno into a funny contest lol

[@Thongn246]

What if it's not necessarily chainsaws that are scary, but the idea of dismemberment? I don't know how literal it is when it comes to the powers of the devils, but that's generally how I've seen it. It's similar to the bat devil where maybe bats themselves aren't scary, but the fact that they bring fear of disease and sicknesses.

[@Inufan20]

Easy revenge Its interesting that Denji's greatest skill is that people underestimate him. If he was smarter, enemies would expect trickery but since hes not the brightest bulb out there no one expects him to flip it on them like he does.

[@エル-d7e]

The Tease at the End is the Arc i am waiting for to be animated

[@Alejandro-uu4mt]

Did you happen to notice that the Requiem for Himeno part is a parody of Hunter Hunter's Uvogin?

[@sherkecringemonger9872]

I like how you guys kinda right about everything, but in the same time tottaly wrong about everything. This was a wild ride and second season will be a blast!

[@handibenkz4091]

I enjoy your reaction and discussion in this show as always.

[@nitinpriyadarshi269]

The stuff that's to come is the shit that makes Chainsaw Man. Like if CSM goes to a 100 then you only see upto 20 in this season. The last 5 seconds made me explode with excitement. Also, Denji's dream is much much more dark than any of your theories lol. Looking forward to more CSM!!

[@daysand123]

Easy Revenge If you think about it. Aki smoking the easy half of the cigarette at the end signifies a few things. It helps him get over Himeno's death, it signifies it was the easy part with how quickly it wrapped up in the grand scheme of things. Lastly it leaves off on "Revenge!" Being unsmoked, which means lhes still dead set on throwing his life away to avenging his family against the gun devil with the little time he has left. This anime gave more post credits character drive going forward than fifty other Shonen protagonist wizard pirate shinigami ninja mayors goals for the future via smoking a single cigarette on a balcony in silence. Thats fucking cinema art!

[@rainbowrose8802]

There are times where I do have dreams that I forget until I have them again. And every time, I try to change the outcome but can't. So I thought it was similar

[@dokco4867]

gonna wait for the next season in a coffee shop :')

[@naej3721]

I think the last teaser is also trying to wrap up a bit of the question, as mention in the last line in ep.9 Makima’s “the dining in Tokyo is to die for”

[@JoaoLucasK]

The thing with the Violence Fiend, it's that even after it got nerfed from becoming a fiend, he's still so freaking strong that he needs a poisonous mask to even be contained.

[@gelsonlopesdonascimento5515]

The first part of the manga is composed of 97 chapters, which contains mini arcs inside, the anime adapted up to chapter 38 of the manga, still missing 58 chapters to finish the first part, currently the manga is launching the second part, where it is in the chapter 115.

[@CaffieneKitty]

Regarding the Gun Devil's marketing strategy: The Gun Devil is powered by peoples' fear of guns, right? Therefore their priority is to get the guns out into the hands of people who will use them, not to make money off selling them. The only reason they probably charge the 20000 yen is so that people will not dismiss them as not being a serious offer, while still being super cheap for the market. Also, while the guns may or may not be generated by the Gun Devil, I don't think the supply is affected by regular human transport that needs to go through plain everyday customs and excise inspections.

[@XiaoAndyPugMan]

"[getting choked by the ghost devil] has to be close to the worst!!!!!" lmaoooooooo

[@DurealzForReal]

The requiem reference was definitely from HxH!

[@yugoxgc]

Easy Revenge I love the weight execution of everything. When something is supposed to feel heavy you really feel that it is HEAVY. Also with Denji. When he falls There's a pretty hard clang

[@lysfranc8782]

Theory: the Devils aren’t based of fear but of human views. Since Himeno is dead she’s part of the Ghost Devil and ghosts can be scary, dead people who wants revenge or to hurt lived persons, but also are our loved ones who protect us through the other world. Aki thought of Himeno and of a cherish memory of them so the Ghost Devil couldn’t sense his fear anymore and Himeno manifested herself through the Devil.

[@soul6733]

Goodbye Chainsaw Man for now.

[@kkxx2181]

The chainsaw man is full of hints and foreshadowing, during their last training, you can see his pants are ripped, implying that his legs can grow chainsaws

[@andraska724]

I feel like these guys are not respecting chainsaws a whole lot. I think all power tools are hela scary and they will mess you up if you are not careful. I admit certain horror movies have traumatised me a little with chainsaw related violence but even without that experience, the first set of instructions I received before using one was to hold it a certain way so it doesn't gore you up if the chain derails. That's when I noped out.

[@dark_fusion1288]

Man, I love CSM. Just thinking about the answers and reveals we get far later in the series has me hyped for an inevitable season 2. Really makes me want to reread the manga again..

[@Nokotron]

Easy Revenge Potential spoiler Arai is the violence fiend. At least, I’m pretty sure. He is the only fiend missing in the theater part of the op and in ending 11 they show all of Himenos squad with violence fiend replacing Arai.

[@MegaRemington13]

It never occurred to me through all the times they've mentioned Makima being a Devil. But since the Angel Devil existed, do other more benevolent Devils exist by their very natures, such as Justice, Police, or Hero Devils since it's all a matter of perspective.

[@m..na.]

Ahhh coool you’re watching with the references!

[@ashdcsh]

i always thought katana man's point about denji being worse than him for being an unfeeling person because even he feels bad about killing just reeks of yakuza rationalisation and hypocrisy, same kind we saw last episode. "we're bad but not that bad. it's fine when i kill very human cronies and devil hunters but zombies???? you crossed a line denji"