SOTO Stormbreaker Camping Stove OD-1ST(set packaging)/SOD-372(stove packaging)

[@rickbyrne7631]

Excellent video. I particularly appreciated your clear and precise instructions on optimal use. Thank you.

[@gordyguyworld7164]

@@rickbyrne7631 welcome.

[@mikemorgan5015]

This is MY opinion. I'm not saying anyone else is doing it wrong. They used to scoff at Coleman stoves for needing/having generator tubes. Seems they are all the rage these days. This stove looks amazing. Very well engineered, robust construction, and TONS of power. How low can it simmer and for how long? Pretty expensive, but it IS a high end unit. One of my all time favorites is the Coleman Apex. Low CG, leveling leg, decent power, great simmer, instant lighting and ready to cook in seconds on gasoline and runs well on kerosene too. But it's long out of production now. This was Coleman's pinnacle. They had the 550, 400, and the Apex series' all in production at the same time. Looks like they gave up on the serious hiking market. My modern favorite is the Optimus Nova, but I need a silent cap for it to be a true contender at the top of my list. In fairness, I have never owned an MSR stove so I cannot rank them. I have a LOT of stoves of all varieties. Mostly liquid fuel pressure stoves. Boilers have their place, but I find myself wanting to actually cook a meal more and more. It's part of the adventure for me now more than ever before. For some reason, food tastes better when you cook it outdoors. I don't think I've used a boiler stove in years. I still like the classics like the Svea 123, 8R, 111T, 99 and old military stoves and suitcase stoves too. I have mixed feelings about upward pointing flame jets. They, of course perform better in windy conditions, but I use windscreens anyway and a couple of extra ounces here or their isn't at all a problem for me. Thanks for posting this video.

[@gordyguyworld7164]

Very very good points Morgan. There are tons of camping stoves in the market. Many companies produce updated models from some that are already perfect but with companies, they need to build ever new models to earn revenue. And some with novelties just for sales to keep them afloat and current. Personally, these days, I’m starting to move towards wood burning stoves. I seem to be bringing along with me the FireBox. Wood is always in abundant in forests by means of fallen or dead wood. But I do have issues when the monsoon comes around here in Asia and the wood are damp. That’s where a couple of coal briskets would suffice a good burn. Whatever the issues, it’s good to read of different stoves that suit different cultures and continents. Happy camping and adventures to you. Be safe. Cheers Mike Morgan.

[@GrzegorzMazur75]

@@gordyguyworld7164 You are talking nonsense, because you always have dry wood in old and thick branches. Even if you cut a thick branch from the tree, if it is thick enough, you will always find a dry tree inside that is good for lighting.

[@GrzegorzMazur75]

@@gordyguyworld7164 The showrooms and service of this company are very poorly developed in Europe. That's why people prefer to bet their money on a certain company that they trust and have service and parts for their stove and you don't have to wait a week of time, but it's done in 2-3 days max. The Soto razor looks nice and is quiet compared to others, but I'm scared for service and parts and that's why people choose the Primus.

[@gordyguyworld7164]

@@GrzegorzMazur75 I think you are comparing the regulations between where you camp and here in Asia. Like here where I stay, our camp grounds do have restrictions from cutting and using living trees. Most of our rainforests are protected unless purchased by industries for urbanisation. Saying my talk is nonsense is due to not understanding the amount of protected lands and woodland. In my country of Singapore, there are fines for just using hammocks tied to trees, damaging tree trunk and bark in public woodlands and designated camping areas.

[@gordyguyworld7164]

@@GrzegorzMazur75 I’m glad you have a stove that you trust in company and repairs. Soto is a Japanese brand. My review is to share this brand of stoves in Asia. Soto has stores in Asia and in the USA. The purpose I use Soto is because I want options when i travel overseas to camp cook. You may have restrictions in Europe for filling up small bottles at gas stations. But in my country, the only restrictions is that petrol can only be filled into vessels designed and built for petrol. These are designated on the bottle for these purpose. Also they don’t have restrictions on amount. They only need you to pay for the fuel no matter how much. I have filled these ‘little bottles’ in Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand and Japan. This is a multi fuel stove. As a camper that travels to different parts of the world, I use which ever fuel is easily available. With this stove, I’ve used gas canisters in the US, Japan and also in Switzerland. And also liquid White fuel and petrol in Asia like Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand and Japan. When i go camping overseas, I always bring my multi fuel stove and my trusty FireBox(twigs, wood, charcoal, spirit or gel).

[@surething86]

Thank you for the excellent demonstration of the Soto Stormbreaker. This is the solution to the empty gas canister problem. You explained everything well and to the point that I shall be able to operate the Stormbreaker. As a novice, I just want to ask, after pumping (around 100 times), the red indicatior is visible and there is suffiecnet air pressure in the bottle to operate the Stormbreaker. I have seen the official Soto demonstration video where the demonstrator does exactly as you have done by pumping the bottle until the red indicator is visible. He then ignites the stove and then starts to pump again whilst the stove is actually on. Why is he doing this? Is this because the red indicator is no longer visible? and is it safe to pump whilst the stove is ignited?

[@gordyguyworld7164]

Hi surething86. Yes. The initial building of the pressure gets used up for the preheating of the atomizing chamber. By the time the flame is blue with best burning heat, the red line has shrunk back in. For me the remainder pressure is enough to heat up water in a pot. So if you require to heat multiple pots and foods, you would have to pump to bring up the pressure by having the indicator reveals the red line. Do know that adding more pressure also expends more fuel. So for long camp trips, it would be wise to ration your fuel. Soto does have larger fuel bottles. I hope this answers your question.

[@gordyguyworld7164]

@@surething86 I’m glad I could help. The brand Soto is a unique Japanese camping equipment brand which is considered a high end brand in its home country. It is widely readily available in Japan. Most reviewers outside of asia have found it hard to get their hands on these products. Check out reviews from “TheOutdoorGearReviews” on his take on Soto products.

[@gordyguyworld7164]

StormBreaker is the updated version of the Soto Muka Stove.

[@gordyguyworld7164]

Check with reviewer Ken Okada for stove info.

[@oceannomads]

I owned one and I can say it is the best white gas/regular gasoline stove especially when the weather gets very windy. I have yet to try to replace the pumping using a small bicycle pump with an adaptor attached to the bottle.

[@gordyguyworld7164]

Totally agree and know how you feel. Interesting idea with the small bicycle pump. I have to go look it up.

[@BMacW650]

Do you have a link or reference to the bike pump mod? I've seen it done with a compressor from Soto's show booth. And I have been looking for a solution like that.

[@leonbatuigas7678]

Thank you for the review i bought my soto today😅👍

[@Kang_Guru.]

Have you tested the Soto Stormbreaker with hydrocarbon fuels? (diesel or kerosene or paraffin)

[@skinnydog6665]

Thanks for the review. I have heard gasoline over time will get a residue (not sure if carbon??) in the burner which can reduce efficiency, so was told to use Shellite which burns cleaner.

[@gordyguyworld7164]

Yes, thats true. The advice i was given was not to use gasoline with too much additives. I’ve been using Low lead gasoline and found no performance deficiency for the past 3 and half years now. I got some feedback, is that try not to use the stove at Low pressure. At high pressure, the fuel gets to burn blue through the heating of the atomiser tube. When the pressure is high, the fuel burn efficiently clearing the piping.

[@Kang_Guru.]

​@@gordyguyworld7164In summary, unleaded gasoline is better to burn than low-leaded gasoline?

[@ianatienza3859]

dream stove

[@gordyguyworld7164]

I always carry two stoves on all my camp trips. This StormBreaker and the FireBox wood stove. Covers all bases for fire and cooking needs. Thanks for the comment.

[@caterpile8752]

What's the pot calling, made of plastic? wried design..... Great stove, Thanks for sharing.

[@gordyguyworld7164]

SeaToSummit X-Pot 2.4/4ltr, collapsible pot. Side material, Thick food grade silicone. Lid works as strainer and can be locked down. Able to fold down to 40mm

[@sviatoslavzapolskyi7986]

Is it possible to fill up the bottle with the gasoline directly from the gas nozzle on a gas station or you must fill up a canister and then pour from canister to bottle?

[@gordyguyworld7164]

Yes, the bottle neck can easily fill directly from gas station nozzle. Not a problem there. Just remember to fill only 3/4 full. And if you still have remainder after camp trip, the bottle neck is easy to pour back into car or bike tank, so no fuel wasted or shelf extended storage.

[@avaw4514]

does the pressure in the fuel bottle ever drop when cooking? and if so do you need to pump while burning or only before turning on the gas?

[@gordyguyworld7164]

Yes, the pressure in the fuel bottle does drop. But the heat from the stove is super hot and cooking is normally done before the pressure drops to a level that is unusable. One indication to help this is to glance at the red line indicator that shows the pressure for the start of the burn. When it disappears would be a good time to pump. For me i tend to over pump in the beginning. When i pump to the red line, i pump about 6 to 7 more if I know that i will need a prolong cooking period (for large camping group or boiling potatoes for making mash). When the fire is going, you will find that you don’t need to pump as much as you started to get back to the redline for pre-use.

[@SnowyAspenHills]

Back here again 😀 don’t think I have used my Stormbreaker in white gas mode since I watched this months ago, thought I would check out the procedure here rather than read the instructions. I purchased both the small and large widesea anodised aluminium heat exchanger pots and they have reduced boil times considerably, boiled 500ml of water in the larger pot using Coleman white gas outside at about 10° centigrade in 1:22.

[@Kang_Guru.]

Have you tested the Soto Stormbreaker with hydrocarbon fuels? (diesel or kerosene or paraffin)

[@SnowyAspenHills]

@@Kang_Guru. It’s not designed for those fuels, only canister gas and white gas.

[@thfmlymn4498]

I just bought my Storm Breaker today. Just to check if this is normal operation - while on low flame/simmer, my stove gets cherry red, is hot. If i increase to a higher flame it cools down and gets much less red hot.

[@Kang_Guru.]

Have you tested the Soto Stormbreaker with hydrocarbon fuels? (diesel or kerosene or paraffin)

[@thfmlymn4498]

@@Kang_Guru. I've only used it with butane and white spirits. I'm not sure if it can run on diesel because of how it starts up.

[@gordyguyworld7164]

@@Kang_Guru. Yes, I’ve tried with kerosene and Methylated Spirit. They both work fine. This stove is meant to be a white fuel stove as well. I haven’t tried Diesel. I’ve been told that Diesel may leave residue in the chamber for long term use. Also Leaded Petrol can leave residue in the long run.

[@joshomalin]

Hi, I'd wanted to ask if it's possible to use the gas canister adapter of the stormbreaker on the SOD-371 stove (Muka)? kind regards

[@gordyguyworld7164]

Hey Josh, sorry for late reply, I had to ask a friend of mine who has the Muka. The connector to the liquid fuel tank is identical to the gas canister. The Muka was designed purely for the liquid fuel tank. But engineering setup identical with StormBreaker (evaporating chamber). So technically should work with the gas canister. You would need to invert the canister just like directed in the StormBreaker Soto instructions, so that the liquid gas would be first to enter into the burner. According to my friend, he borrowed the attachment from a friend and it works fine. So, I would say yes, it will work. But i don’t think the makers would approve. You would need to get the gas canister attachment. Just know that mix and match has risks and Soto would rather not take the responsibility of injury due to equipment used in different models if not instructed. So my official answer is… can it be used, Yes. Should you use it? At your risk. Blame it on self inginuity.

[@SnowyAspenHills]

Good review for when using it in white gas mode, i like my Stormbreaker a lot but must admit I use it in the inverted gas mode most of the time, a good point about the waste of the used canisters and the unfortunate dumping of used canisters. With Coleman extreme gas and used inverted ( which is how it should be used apart from the first 5 seconds to warm the preheat tube) it would have to be very cold indeed that you wouldn't be able to use LPG.

[@gordyguyworld7164]

I have used gas canisters before but have issues searching for some brands while traveling and having a stove where the fuel can be readily available anywhere in the world, regular car gasoline, is a great plus for me and saves time in searching and able to focus on the trip proper. After testing the time to boil with either the gasoline or canister, the difference is so negligible that I mainly base my suitability on accessibility of the fuel. I also use a trangia and a wood stove. But I still come back to the power, fuel availability and speed of this stove system. But it’s true that some campers have weight and space issues, which I agree. Suitable stoves meet certain needs and not a single stove meets every adventure.

[@SnowyAspenHills]

@@gordyguyworld7164 It's indeed a flexible stove and relatively compact and light for a white gas/LPG stove, if I had to have only one stove this would be it.

[@GrzegorzMazur75]

The showrooms and service of this company are very poorly developed in Europe. That's why people prefer to bet their money on a certain company that they trust and have service and parts for their stove and you don't have to wait a week of time, but it's done in 2-3 days max. The Soto razor looks nice and is quiet compared to others, but I'm scared for service and parts and that's why people choose the Primus.

[@franka7691]

Thanks for posting. Is this the only multi-fuel stove that doesn't require priming?

[@gordyguyworld7164]

I understand there are a handful of other stoves from other companies. And they may be between hard and liquid fuels. But i love this stove cause of the power and adaptability in high winds and lack of canister recycling. There is still a priming sequence, which entails heating of the Atomising pipe and the pump action to apply pressure in the fuel bottle. But this set also comes with a gas canister adapter, so you can still use canisters if that is your fav. But the difference with canister and liquid fuel is the temp altitude when operating this stove. And the liquid stove can put out a higher flow of flames when you add more pumps while it’s in operations. But do note that adding more pressure means faster usage of the existing fuel in the bottle.

[@gordyguyworld7164]

For me I like to work for my fire and enjoy the work put in to pump and get the flame to blue. Like I like making coffee from beans by grinding and brewing instead of from coffee pre powdered bags. It’s the satisfaction of the work put in. But, i agree that in certain scenarios where its freezing rain and a quick hot meal may require a screw on canister and a quick flame for fast meals may brighten the coldest hike or camp. So i guess this stove still has alternatives that fits all situations.

[@franka7691]

@@gordyguyworld7164 Thanks. I'm aware of the differences between canister and liquid fuel stoves. I'm just looking for a multi-fuel stove that is safer to use while tree camping and possibly inside of a portaledge (tent) while big wall rock climbing. Do you know which other models of multi-fuel stoves don't require major priming? Thanks again for all the info.

[@franka7691]

@@gordyguyworld7164 Me too. I prefer to grind my own beans and make cold brew in a French press.

[@gordyguyworld7164]

@@franka7691Gotcha! I have to advice you that this stove when heating up the Atomising tube, the yellow flame can reach quite a height. So using within a small tent or limited ground area can be risky. Unfortunately I haven’t got many stoves that I can share with you as I’m mainly grounded with loads of area and high tent ceiling. When I was in the military, A-shape fly sheet tent set up, was always where I would always use a solid fuel (small flame) stove for military rations. Personally, respect to you for big wall rock climbing overnights in a portaledge camping is amazing. I’m a simple lead climber and can’t imagine how to cook in that environment. Another point i wanted to share that my stove may be a bit heavy for lugging up big walls. Sorry that i can’t be of much help. I think I should be asking you for info of stoves for your sport discipline.

[@kestertan408]

Hi, where did you buy your Soto Stormbreaker stove in Singapore?

[@gordyguyworld7164]

Hi Kester, you can go to Amazon.co.jp (Japanese Amazon) they have all the range there and ship to Singapore. It’s available there at this time with many other assessories. I bought mine from Europe when the StormBreaker was sold out in Asia and US markets about two years ago.

[@gordyguyworld7164]

As of today 17Apr2022, Japan has halted all international sales on most of their platforms. You could use alternate 3rd party companies. I use ‘ShopNBox’ to purchase items from Japan, Australia, US and Europe. They will resize packages for cheapest delivery or compile several items. You do pay a small surcharge though. Check all avenues and costs before committing.

[@baaboo21]

Does the muka maintenance kit work for the stormbreaker?

[@gordyguyworld7164]

The upgraded difference between the Muka and the StormBreaker is the connector hose and the flame grill. Other than that, the maintenance kit works fine. But a replacement tube should be changed with one advised by SOTO or a professional stove maintenance worker.

[@w7703-q5l]

Did Storm Soto leak water or oil? Frequent maintenance of parts?

[@johnsmithfakename8422]

This is my subjective opinion. As long as it can last a long time, it is probably the best designed liquid fuel stove. It looks like it ticks all the boxes I have on my ideal liquid fuel stove.

[@andrewmcgaha9629]

Hello... great video review... I am very interested in this stove, but having trouble finding it currently in the US. Do you know if the SOD-372 is the same stove?

[@gordyguyworld7164]

Yes, I understand that Soto US, has labelled as SOD-372, StormBreaker.

[@gordyguyworld7164]

I flew into Phuket Thailand 2 months back and instead of looking up a camping store, walked to a neighbourhood gas station and topped up my fuel bottle and had fuel for cooking for my 3 day camp trip. No gas canisters used even if I brought along my canister adapter. Most campsites in Thailand have canisters for sale at their camping permit offices. With spare fuel and donated to someone with a motorbike at the end of the trip. I have to add that you will need to pump the pressure into the fuel bottle to help Vaporise the fuel. Some users find that troublesome, but for me, I like to work for the fire and food i cook for. There is a satisfaction gained.

[@andrewmcgaha9629]

@@gordyguyworld7164 thank you. I’m a big fan of the Soto Canister stoves.

[@gordyguyworld7164]

I’m also aware of the popularity of the StormBreaker. It’s always sold out. A year ago, I had to order the stove combo for my mate through Amazon and was shipped from Yugoslavia. 🤷🏻‍♂️ but worked great and still without any issues.

[@gordyguyworld7164]

@@andrewmcgaha9629 When i travel for camping, I always bring two stove systems. The Soto StormBreaker combo and the Firebox. Having a Gas and Wood stoves puts my mind at ease and their compactness doesn’t require me to hunt for specialised camp shops and sometimes out of stock or overpriced fuel solutions.

[@Kang_Guru.]

Have you tested it with hydrocarbon fuels? (diesel or kerosene or paraffin)

[@gordyguyworld7164]

Hi Roca. Yes, this is a white fuel stove too. I have tried kerosene and Methylated Spirit. Both works fine. I was advised to not use Diesel or Leaded Petrol as residue may accumulate in the stove area for long term use.

[@Kang_Guru.]

@@gordyguyworld7164 yes that's completely correct. I've tested my MSR Dragonfly to run diesel for a month. I have to clean it through everyday, until I getting bored and tired to clean it. And now it leaves plaque on the jet, also the jet now is really difficult to unscrew. Kerosene also a dirty fuel, I have to clean through the stove every 2 weeks if using kerosene. It's all for testing, to find the best stove for expedition. MSR Dragonfly and Primus Omnilite didn't passed the criteria. I guess MSR XGK-EX is the only suitable stove for expedition, consume all different kind of fuels.

[@gordyguyworld7164]

@@Kang_Guru.You can immerse the stove head in unleaded petrol or spirit for a day and brush clean with a fine toothbrush or compressed airgun. Don’t forget to remove the tubing as the solid carbon and impurities come out through the connector plugs. I’ve used unleaded for my vehicles and stove and leading my stove to maintenance free with perfect performance for more than 2 years now.

[@GrzegorzMazur75]

@@gordyguyworld7164 Yes, because it is a stove primarily for extraction gasoline that you can buy in stores and for gas. And unleaded gasoline or kerosene will sooner or later harm your razor. If you really need a good and proven stove for various fuels, look for the Primus company. They have been specializing in these matters for years and you have interchangeable nozzles in the machine for diesel, kerosene, unleaded petrol, paraffin and even aviation fuel.

[@arturv83]

Can propane canisters be used with an adapter?

[@gordyguyworld7164]

Sorry for late reply, was away for a camp trip. Yes, the canister adapter fits nearly all canisters that i tried. Use inverted for best results.

[@hururuktv]

I have many stoves too, MSR and several Chinese and domestic, and the Sotomuka is probably the best designed liquid fuel stove. It appears to tick all the boxes for an ideal liquid fuel stove.

[@DieTabbi]

HOW many pumps? Insane.

[@whoalap]

Only 20 pumps with my Primus... 90 to a 150 pumps in the mean time I've could have found a proper gas canister. 😉Be prepared for RSI

[@Kang_Guru.]

​​@@whoalapI had to pump 50 times for a half filled bottle, for MSR Dragonfly. And 20 more after continue boiling water more than 10 minutes. 😂

[@8Jory]

Not sure how you feel about doing it personally, but I will go through those tossed away gas canisters because half the time they still have a useable amount of gas in them. The others I recycle myself since it drives me nuts seeing something recyclable in the trash. Edited for bad spelling :-(

[@gordyguyworld7164]

I know what you mean. Many campers don’t care much keeping canisters with minute left overs. And yeah recycling is something many don’t think much of.

[@8Jory]

@@gordyguyworld7164 I never understood campers that litter. You're there to enjoy nature, then you leave garbage everywhere and ruin the nature you're there to enjoy in the first place.

[@gordyguyworld7164]

I think the main issues are space. Canisters can take up space and if you’re leaving on a flight, those canisters won’t be allowed in an aircraft, let alone a partial filled.

[@joemama22]

Boil time is useless. How much fuel does it use to boil water?

[@konighansen9062]

you will get a better time if you use a 12,9" ipad pro !

[@arifcahyana1646]

in Indonesia 🇮🇩 (java specialy) , SOTO is most popular food(soup) 😂

[@gordyguyworld7164]

I agree with you. I love Mee Soto too.

[@GrzegorzMazur75]

The showrooms and service of this company are very poorly developed in Europe. That's why people prefer to bet their money on a certain company that they trust and have service and parts for their stove and you don't have to wait a week of time, but it's done in 2-3 days max. The Soto razor looks nice and is quiet compared to others, but I'm scared for service and parts and that's why people choose the Primus.

[@tol7488]

too much words misused..