What're People Saying About Housing Now? Raid Changes Ahead of 11.1 - Warcraft Weekly

[@TrekkieBrie]

My dream for a new player experience is a curated story speed run, where you can play the most important bits of the story from each expansion in a 1-80 leveling style. It would bounce players around the world, give them a chance to see all the zones and experience bits of each story to help build a cohesive narrative a new player could log in and choose to play. I think even some veteran players could find an optional leveling method like that enjoyable. But that's just my pipe dream.

[@HYDRARMOR]

great idea!

[@weatheredseeker]

That just doesn't work as well as doing one complete story. It ends up being confusing for a new player instead of building a narrative. No one is gonna get 20 years of story crammed into one experience. It'll just feel like random characters doing random things. They just need to make sure they have a base story for new players/alts that feeds into the current story. Which they can totally do and keep updated. Then timerunning events can give players a chance to go back for lore later.

[@SoulSoBreezy]

Thought comes to mind, the game can set up a bunch of different "main storylines" that put a character through a more or less on rails MSQ. So maybe not wow's complete history but healthy bite that feels like a complete story, by the end that character might be ready for the new expansion. This'd be on top of your own idea too. I'm mostly thinking of how they want to improve the experience in several stages and not just one go.

[@skurvey1101]

Kind of like how ff14 has new game plus would be nice.

[@ricardoborgespereira6387]

Excellent idea!!!

[@arewhyinoh8595]

Imagine getting kicked out of a guild after setting up a guild neighborhood. I'm also wondering if you can have NPCs live with you, or other players, or have your other toons hanging out in your house, your hunter is hanging out by the fireplace and your priest is cooking dinner as you walk in on your pally. Your warrior is napping, druid sitting on the porch with your shaman playing hearthstone.

[@SoulSoBreezy]

I was left with the impression that we can just willy nilly walk into anyone's house and check stuff out

[@LeahMichelle512]

@@arewhyinoh8595 that sounds absolutely amazing, almost like Skyrim, when you marry someone and they just tend to the house.

[@FenrirStrange]

How often are y'all getting kicked out of guilds? I've been in my guild for nearly 6 years..

[@LeahMichelle512]

@ I don’t even get acknowledged in mine most of the time. Granted, that’s because I’m asking stupid questions that I usually go directly to google for. I’ve only been playing for about six weeks, so I’m still learning a lot. They’re super fun and reliable in dungeons and stuff though! That’s really all that matters 😂

[@trishb1706]

I think the post said you can have other players live in your house with you. Actually, I just checked and it did say you can have other people or guild mates living with you or you can live in their houses and neighborhoods. This is a smart idea because many people, like my brother and his wife, play together so it would be great for them to be able to share a home even though they technically have two separate accounts.

[@FatGooseArts]

OMG I was cracking up at the "Jake" part XD

[@kanetsugu21]

I like the idea and sentiment behind neighborhoods keeping the experience social, and I see the value and am glad that will be a thing, but damn if I don't just want my own little piece of Azeroth off the coast outside of Silvermoon or something that I can just do my own thing in solace and invite my friends to come hang out at sometimes.

[@SoulSoBreezy]

I wonder if there'll be lots of space between plots, then people can at least choose one of those more isolated plots in the neighborhood, others can choose homes along the main street and so on.

[@jaklg7905]

Thank you for bringing up the issue with the plots and who gets them. That was the first thing that I thought of when I read the post about the neighborhoods. That there would be fighting to get the "best" plot.

[@LadyLunarella]

I was trying not to think about that the first time I read the article. but its apparent it'll be a swarm of players unless the devs have a plan in mind. Fingers crossed and here's hoping. 🤞🤞🤞

[@ThatNonbinary-f2w]

I think having a profession for housing as a secondary profession like how Archeology was introduced could be cool.

[@Ghust19]

Yea, hope they’d bring Archeology with it being reworked so it would work like it did on that world event in DF

[@jamesblackford9983]

thanks for the vids man, you are one of the few I like watching about wow stuff man, your chill and nice, its dope

[@LleylaMage]

For new players, a Chromie led/narrated storymode raid tour of the expansions would give new players a real feel for the game. Taking them around to face Onyxia, Ragnaros, Illidan, Arthas, Deathwing, etc., with some high-level story fill-in to tell them why we're fighting them, could really help new players feel invested. Blizz could break it up by expac like Chromie time already is, so it's not TOO overwhelming, but have it lead them chronologically through our heroes' journey, to really help new players feel like the veteran heroes they are meant to be.

[@LadyLunarella]

I love your idea! ^^ my boyfriend has trouble following the story as theyre lore is very long. and I dont blame him its very long and can be hard for others to follow. not even I know all the details on everything. I joined during pandera. and learned what I could from cut scenes and what other players told me.

[@christopherdaffron8115]

So far it seems that the fifty some odd housing plot locations are fixed in a given Neighborhood. I wonder if Blizzard will at some point allow players to add say basements and/or additional stories to their houses?

[@LadyLunarella]

I'd love an attic space.

[@T.R.75]

always appreciate a good clear vid with plenty of relevant info. liked, good vibes.

[@JodouTR]

My take on plot preferences is they already gave us a hint/slip-up. If you read the verbiage closely in answered questions they mention "if a player wants to *buy* a home" which suggests plots will have a purchase price in gold. You can already see where this is going if you've ever played FFXIV in that the 'favorite spots' are going to be exorbitant in price. And to be fair, this is the only logical way they could distribute players naturally in that some might save up for the malibu beach house, others will be happy with a lower mortgage home, or despite having the gold choose to buy a house that's on sale because it's less popular. I mean, Blizz has the entire housing market IRL to work with as an economic model and I'm sure they'll take advantage of it.

[@SoulSoBreezy]

Don't think there's any illusion we won't be "buying" anything, but they made it very clear a few sentences earlier that there are "No exorbitant requirements or high purchase costs" to follow the focus on wide adoption as they also state. For me at least, this translates to our first house being very cheap, and this depends on how welcoming they want housing to be for brand new wow players. I imagine for the sake of making housing be a welcome feature as opposed to a privilege, the cost if any will be relative to the earliest minimum level requirement. If housing is accessible at level 10, I'd guess we get our first basic shack for free. If housing is accessible at level 30, maybe we're thinking a few hundredish gold for our first house. And assuming there'll be larger house types (endgame), we should expect an increase.

[@JodouTR]

@ Right, but if you look at that again through the lens of the same problems you illustrated: homes are still accessible/affordable to anyone, BUT it may not be the one you want. 😉 Both can be true in that the rich get the home they want preference-wise and the average Joe can too with a smaller subset of location choices. I do think there will be quite a bit of disappointment but at least we all do get a house.

[@SoulSoBreezy]

I must be missing something when you suggest people won't get the house they want unless we're jumping ahead to how much the most expensive homes will cost. There's gonna be a careful balance to strike but I think only one rule need apply: don't make housing layouts or outdoor exteriors that're only available temporarily. Otherwise if a house goes for a few million, okay there's the chase goal, get to it. Whether people have a problem with that would be mostly their own problem.

[@JodouTR]

@@SoulSoBreezy When I look at the problem that faced FFXIV for example, we can see the ‘why’ it happened and I do think that applies in WoW. Otherwise what will stop players from seeing a more desireable spot and keep jumping ‘wards’ to find one available? If too many players lean that way, you have tons of half-empty wards and nothing to balance it out. It’s all speculation but I do think everyone can get a house, just might not be the location they would prefer.

[@gohomehero]

They should also combine WoW with Hearthstone. Imagine everyone grouping up at the tavern and being able to watch eachothers games.

[@PandaWorldYouTube]

Our quests are in our mailbox:)

[@Dakotarain]

😆

[@zimattack9994]

I better get goblin lawn flamingos

[@Ghust19]

I want this football pitch from goblin starting zone in my neighbourhood

[@zimattack9994]

@Ghust19 and the pool

[@LeahMichelle512]

I had a similar thought!!😂

[@richardwest8739]

My gnome needs to live in a garden and her bed needs to be a bed of roses.

[@MorganRhysGibbons]

It's wild that you have been calling for player housing for SO long and it's finally happening! I give you all the credit.

[@jaklg7905]

I have been playing WOW nonstop since 2007. I have noticed that Blizzard went from "we will never have player housing" to "we are thinking about it". And that change ONLY happened after the big vloggers started pushing for it.

[@Hauke-ph5ui]

9:17 They already said that they'll start with just two zones and go from there which is 100 % the right choice. As for Grizzly Hills - I'm pretty sure we'll get a housing zone there in The Last Titan since that expansion is set in Northrend.I'm also fairly certain that they will add a Silverymoon housing zone midway through Midnight. Race specific decor and architecture will definetly come. Again, starting small and expanding from there is the right choice. With garrisons they overpromised and underdelivered and everyone was mad about it- and rightfully so. This is the opposite approach and that is good. The basics must be done right first. Then you can add more details. 12:00 The social aspect couls also include more public events like building up an inn, having troubadours visiting the area based on general player activity, building a theatre, having loremasters writing down heroic deeds of the inhabitants at some form of Neighborhood central hall....there are so many possibilities, none of which are player power related in the slightest but are huge opportunities for roleplay events. 13:47 I disagree on that. Iwouldn't be dissatisfied in the slightest if I can have a house per zone. They already announced that we'll be able to move so if you want to try something new in a different spot you can. And don't forget that we'll get more zones in the future which means that one house per zone could in fact eventually mean something like 5, 10 or even more homes eventually which is already a lot of work to do. 14:50 I have to disagree on that one too because that would lower the involvement of professions big time. In my opinion each and every decor item should be an actual item that has to be found or crafted. That is indeed the way other games handle this by the way. 17:15 Not sure if it means anything but the post does mention being able to live in your friend's house. 20:45 The housing zones should not duplicate the cities. Housing zones should avoid game functionalities like teleporters, auction houses, banks and crafting stations. They could include a flightmaster and maybe a vendor or two, but that's it. The rest should be social - like an inn - or purely for roleplay, optics and prestige.

[@Mysterious-Fox-01]

Yeah I don't get why people are mad about that. Why are people so eager to be mad about something that is added later? Blizzard just wants to do this right, 1 project at a time, so some troll and Gnome Housing comes a bit later, what a big pointless problem to be mad about

[@SoulSoBreezy]

Regarding professions, yes I think all professions should be involved. Which is exactly why additional professions aren't necessary. Should also point out, neither approach is wrong either as long as either approach has a strong player economy.

[@Mysterious-Fox-01]

@SoulSoBreezy They are missing a huge opportunity by not adding a housing profession if they are going to focus purely on the in game store for housing which many people are afraid of. And honestly if Blizzard gets a taste of that honey they will probably put the good stuff behind a paywall which no one wants. and the latest action house mount is a prime example of it Blizzard might get the wrong idea to put house models with a price tag in the game, a normal house 25, a castle 60 and Villa 90 for example if they would do that they would definitely destroy the housing fantasy for people in one go, 100% sure of that

[@SoulSoBreezy]

My question is, what's the "opportunity" missed if there aren't dedicated housing professions? What's the difference between "housing profession" making a lap versus an engineer, or taking profession made components and taking them to an NPC? Not that I need convincing or anything, but it doesn't seem reasonable to force a housing profession to be the "last mile." They already made it clear shop items would be in the vast minority, using the same philosophy as the current shop (like a 98:1 ratio of earning items vs. shop only).

[@Hauke-ph5ui]

@ Well - it could be argued that some RP-people would definetly go fully into the "I'm a carpenter/decorator" direction. Not saying that such professions are necessary by any means, but it would add a roleplay element for the people who are interested in that. And since a large part of the Housing is about roleplaying, not the traditional hunt for Player Power... There's definetly an argument for that. WoW 100 % needs more things that are supporting actual roleplaying.

[@Dreyfusxano]

One thought came to mind for me was on the RP side of things, mainly for performers who put on plays and shows like myself. I get the sense that these plots of land can be used to build stages. If I craft a stage and invite the public to watch one of my improv shows and, Ill use the term "bad actor" instead of a troll, what happens when a bad actor arrives at my stage, throws down a ton of large, obnoxious toys and then proceeds to get on a mammoth or bruto mount to cause a scene, will I have the option of kicking that bad actor off of my plot of land? Can I have it where mounts cannot mount up on my plot of land? The simplest answer here would be to simply set up a private neighborhood and a private stage. If I set up a private neighborhood and a private stage, am I only allowed to invite a raid I put together or people from my guild, friends list or community? My particular show thrives on people noticing my show, walking up and sitting down to watch and leaving whenever they want. This has been both a good and bad thing because bad actors have ruined many of my shows and there was little I could do about it other than just move locations. I realize that its still early days but if these plots of land can be used as stages, I want to make good use of this.

[@SoulSoBreezy]

Nah, these're still good questions that help plant the seed in devs' heads. It might not result in the features we want to be there at launch, but could certainly set the stage for future design.

[@trishb1706]

These are good questions. I would assume you could ban players from your property for whatever reason. I would also assume that there would be some way of say, locking the doors or something. If I don't want random people tromping through my house, I should have the option of locking it and allowing people to come in on my terms via housing privacy settings or something. I should also allow it to be open to the public as well if I'm in a public neighborhood. The common sense thing would be to have some sort of housing privacy settings.

[@EdBurke37]

That AIM sound effect triggered some ancient millennial nostalgia in my brain.

[@John-df3lm]

You’ve got mail.

[@simplixity8744]

This Jake person sounds like a real jerk. He should have a house in the Maw.

[@Dragon72801]

Houses in ESO are located in different parts of the world and have layers. So more than one person can have the same house.

[@Dragon72801]

I want to be able to make my own furniture, lights and decorations for my house. I also like to find housing objects through exploration and quest. I would also like to buy some from a NPC or the auction house. I also would like to earn some furniture or decoration from achievements. I hope I can interact with the furniture.. like sit in my chair or on the couch and even sleep in my bed.

[@trishb1706]

Sleeping in the bed animation would be amazing.

[@JamesEtallaz]

I hope there are rare or unique items for housing that actually do something. An epic crafting station that allows crafting for all professions), an epic armor rack that would give the player some sort of limited-time buff(+5% main stat for 1h because gear is cleaned and maintained), an epic bed for additional rest time, etc

[@davidgravelle9314]

I think SWG did housing the best. You could put anything in your inventory into your house, put it anywhere, in any orientation. There was also a profession that was completely dedicated to neighborhoods. If WoW did something similar, it would be wildly successful

[@skurvey1101]

EQ2 was decent about that also. All your pets and books you collect could be placed .

[@ellenb.5268]

I loved the housing in SWG, though I vaguely remember there were some issues towards the end because of unused homes (?).

[@leonardceres9061]

As far as streamlining the leveling experience, my suggestion has always been to do like an abbreviated tour through the world. What they could do is have a few questions in each area that are relatively simple to do would give you a highlight of what’s going on in that part of the world The quests themselves would not give amazing XP so you don’t out level zone too quickly and it also wouldn’t be that long neither maybe just a few quests then when you complete the capstone quest for that zone, you would get a nice chunk of experience. They could make each section skippable so you could jump around if you want to the next leg of the journey and if you complete the whole thing from start to finish, you would get a decent idea of everything that has happened in wow up to this point.

[@swtorfan6756]

I want to add interactive NPCs to my property, the ability to have a farm or profession like a blacksmith shop, be able to build on my house, more locations in the future...oh and it'd be cool to have a family...like mom and dad taking care of the property while you're going off to war or whatever, or a husband at home watching the kids while his badass warlock wife goes off to kick the ass of the next big bad. :P I'd like building options like huts, small homes, big homes, cave homes, underground homes along with a ton of different types of themes to mix and match. Make it look nice and neat or broken and cobwebby like something you'd in a Forsaken town. OR, mix and match stuff because, why not? I'm so excited for this and I hope that even if it's not super awesome at first, that it's just the first step into making a great player housing system.

[@SoulSoBreezy]

It'd be pretty badass if there's a Tirisfal neighborhood and we got a mix of tombs and sepulchers that could build up or underground

[@swtorfan6756]

@SoulSoBreezy that sounds amazing!!!

[@jamesnicolson866]

Blood elfs are the most played horde race... I hope they keep that in mind, that concept art doesnt fill me with confidence though.

[@syndigriner-owens4351]

I feel that will be in Midnight, it is a BE heavy story and Silvermoon in getting a rework for it

[@tronam]

It makes sense to start with the most foundational and thematic core races throughout the entire franchise: Orcs and humans. Then they’ll just expand from there. I’ve always played Undead, so hopefully in the future they’ll build out a Halloween town vibe neighborhood like vanilla UC

[@la7era1u54]

Did you say Silvanas body pillow? You weirdo... Where do I get that??? Asking for a friend

[@altonbunnjr]

Maybe they’ll create a carpenter profession for building housing items.

[@SoulSoBreezy]

It'd work fine; I'd just be slightly annoyed when I'm doing stuff and I gotta switch to my carpenter toon to complete the steps. A secondary "warbound" profession would be the answer, but an NPC can facilitate that just fine too, similar to the alternate crafting methods in mechagon, zereth mortis etc. That's mostly where I'm coming from with my take.

[@endsinurple3144]

That's possible, but I think its more likely that they'll just add recipes for housing items to the already existing professions.

[@Derpleton14]

I want to know how the house itself will work. How big is it? Can I add rooms myself or is it a preset model? How many models are there is that's what Blizzard is using, how would we upgrade those etc. I don't mind having one house per Warband instead of one house per character but I want enough space for several of my characters to have their own rooms.

[@SoulSoBreezy]

I'm mostly hoping for the interior to be more instanced so I have lots of freedom how I want to decorate, immersion be damned. It'd be a little odd to have either a very small house or one that takes up a huge footprint because they're trying to fit some 1:1 ratio, not worth it imo.

[@trishb1706]

I'd like the option to create a few bedrooms as well. I have several toons that all are connected to one another in some way. For my married couples it makes sense for them to have one bed to sleep in but for those that are roommates or family members it makes more sense to have separate bedrooms.

[@LazySleestack]

As for multiple houses, it sounded to me like they will be allowing two (possibly more, as they open up new areas) for each account. You will be able to make an Alliance house (in Elwynn Forrest) and a Horde (Durotar), and all characters in your warband can visit either one. It would be nice if they offered a new "House Stone" toy, like a Garrison Stone.

[@artimusofthemoon2419]

Lets really hope not. I want a house at minimum for each race if nothing else

[@SoulSoBreezy]

I've shared my take but personally I'm mostly curbing my expectations without trying to be too cynical. I was very pleasantly surprised about neighborhoods when I and others figured housing would be single-instance.

[@John-df3lm]

I’m hoping that they really expand upon the zones. If they do all the racial home cities that would be great. I’m watching for the Nightborne home city of Suramar. Still the most beautiful city they have made.

[@trishb1706]

I wonder how private neighborhoods work as well. I have a bad feeling that there's going to be some weird requirements for setting one up because of the whole "we want you to be social" thing. Ideally, I'd like to set one up for my guild but... It's a guild with two people in it. Is Blizzard going to allow me and my fellow guildmate to create this private neighborhood just for the two of us? I mean, it IS a neighborhood for my guild, so... I guess we'll just have to see when we get more info.

[@Dragon72801]

New World uses the housing layers. Houses are located in the cities.

[@scuttlebut]

I’m excited for Let’s Game It Out to play with the WOW housing.

[@marymckinnon5313]

Regarding how many homes you can have. If my guild has a housing area, I also want at least one random house in a public zone (in the same faction), because I have peeps in other guilds and 'personal' guilds. There HAS to be more than one home per faction. 5 or 10 per account sounds good. I have two active accounts, so that will definitely keep me busy and happy.

[@skurvey1101]

The way I read it, it does say your houses a couple of times. I assume at very least have one on each side.

[@Dragon72801]

Lord of the rings has neighborhoods layers that are named, but the houses inside is first come first serve. No house layers.

[@ohnoezitsjoez]

I hope they have a "visit random" house feature. One thing I love is walking around the city and checking our random peoples mogs and how creative and cool they are. If theres a way I can visit random homes for the same purpose, that would be cool. Like if I set up my house, am proud of it, I can opt into making it available for random visitors.

[@gamershow5944]

i would like house portals to all the continents in the game (and portals to any hard to get location) and a new call to home hearthstone separate from the regular hearthstone timer (also reduce cooldown buff to house hearthstone example via house item or game shop). This would streamline traveling to new continent locations and make new player experience player friendly in a huge continent based game like WoW.

[@LadyLunarella]

I'd love to change my characters appearances at a vanity mirror or something. Im really tired we have to ALWAYS go look for a barber to do our hair and face. and as much as I want my witchy gothic void themed house. I know patience will have to be the main focus.

[@jonwells3431]

DAOC had player housing in neighborhoods, and there were x number of instances of the housing zone. You couldn't run out of space, but it was static, so you actually had the opposite problem: People moved in, then stopped playing, and the instance died. All the instances died eventually. All your neighbor houses were derelict. I imagine WoW will have some smarter way of instancing that will address this- maybe, if a player stops playing, their house doesn't load anymore and another player's house pops in it's place. But then are your neighbors randomized? Do they shuffle occasionally? What if you like your neighbors and they disappear? What if the new neighbors are up all night blasting ETC all full volume? I dunno just thinkin.

[@SoulSoBreezy]

Yeah I wanna think that if an account lapses for so long, the player won't lose their house but it'll be sort of pushed off that layer? Which would kind of suck because then that player would be in a neighborhood full of inactives, question then would be if that's a big deal because maybe they don't care, or they can move their house and then suddenly be on a more active layer again. It all depends on if my theory comes true so whatever haha

[@harkenrebirth]

I would love a trophy house. As one of the buildings in your place.. Because it would work as a nice way to encourage people to do achivements. As they could even upgrade the achivements to be.. MORE than just the ones we have so far. Where the building has parts in there that show how much you have done of certain things. Maybe a pvp room. Or a trophy. That goes from being 1 skull.. To 10 skulls. 100 skulls and a big pile of skulls. As a pvp achivement. How many tiers of the Honorable kills you have done. Tier 1, 1 skull, tier 2, 10 skulls, tier 3, 100 skulls and so on. Same with proffessions. That go up depending on how much you mine, collect herb and leather. Same with crafting. but also raiding and so on.

[@chiefputty]

100% professions need some attention. I'd say at the the very least embellishments need a new tuning pass, at least that could shake up the crafting seen. I really don't want to go ascendance on weapons for another season.

[@Jaaj2009]

Some of these examples are so specific, dammit Jake😅

[@PeritashGaming]

if housing comes with its own crafting profession im definetly switching from inscription. lets hope it has its own collection proffesion 2 like lumberer instead of being dependend on miners herbalists and skinners but to be fair that profession wil prebebly be dependant on all of the collection professions

[@catrinastars]

There’s not really many professions that they haven’t already covered, I mean, it is kind of just woodworking left. And even then, it would kind of interfere with engineering, and scribe. You know what? I think it would be more interesting to roll it in with archaeology. Because archeologists do more than just dig in the ground. They learn how ancient people constructed their buildings and items. And how they lived. Archivist, perhaps if they framed it that way, and emphasize the collecting of knowledge. It wouldn’t seem so outlandish. (and we can move away from the Indiana Jones references and into more librarian ones.) that would be a great way to branch archeology specializations. Also researching history might work as a way of enticing new players to experience all the old quest lines we have .

[@BlastHeart96]

Even if Housing doesn’t have a dedicated profession, I feel like at the very least Wood Gathering/Working could be extrapolated on. We already had a barebones version of that in WoD. Also, I get the feel like this Jake situation might be anecdotal. 😂

[@ZavokMB]

One of my worries about the recent news about player housing is, if some one else has a certain plot i would like to have my house at am i SoL is the plot 1st come 1st serve? and i feel like there might be potential griefing with plot limitations by snagging a desired one just to be mean or to try to sell off others.

[@SoulSoBreezy]

From the initial read no. If you want that plot, you get that plot and the game will figure it out - this's with regards to public neighborhoods at least. The scenarios you're describing might be a thing with privage neighborhoods but we need to learn more information first.

[@1upvscpu64]

I noticed they improved the framerate by about double with the last PTR patch. I'm getting like 70-80 in Undermine now, which is much better than the 40ish I was getting before. I finally got to try DRIVE. I'm not sure about that. I feel like I need a controller. I keep running into walls. I feel like the turning is way too slow to be going so fast.

[@piffling2238]

In private neighborhoods the community/guild officers can move people around as needed. Personally I am expecting those in public servers to be constantly complaining about their neighbors. Upset at the most garrish of homes. public neighborhoods will be looked on as ghetos while those in private neighborhoods having the time of their life because officers keeps things looking... uh.. cohesive and organized. People who are part of a guild are more likely to work together. (Private neighborhoods will also filled with HoA levels drama from this I'm sure)

[@Griffin5242]

A Sylvanas body pillow...lol... Nice video. Also Jake is a jackass!

[@zephrosyne]

I got a feeling no good will come of this housing business. People are gonna bitch, gripe, and complain no matter what. Nothing will ever be good enough. Blizzard would probably have been better served if those resources had been put into something else.

[@timgersh6787]

I dont know about housing but we will see what happens

[@DerekScottBland]

I gave up on professions, it's too complicated for the casual player. As for housing, the statement that only a small number of items will be on the cash shop is meaningless. They can put all the garbage for free, achievements, gold purchasing, etc and then the essentials as cash shop. Want to display that set of armor? The mannequin that holds it is cash only. Want that new "system" (whatever that is)? Head to the cash shop. Things like that.

[@SoulSoBreezy]

Think of the ratio of cash shop items now, that's what they have in mind.

[@1upvscpu64]

Will you house be canon? What if Sylvanas comes back and burns down your neighborhood? 😭

[@mtaylor4527]

Will I get a separate hearth stone just for my house?

[@SoulSoBreezy]

Extremely likely. The original preview on the roadmap showed what looked like a house hearthstone looking thing. Wouldn't surprise me if the icon looked like that

[@SlotHits777]

Want three house types.. Standard type, Magical type (think harry potter, Stormwind Mage portal tower, Dr who tardis .. meaning infinitely bigger inside than the outside suggests, and a custom buildable on, where i can build bigger, taller and creatively designed but in wow aesthetic build pieces (think ARK survival evolved build like ability) .. the mod community could bring a ton of assets to the platform too

[@tahroo4262]

My big concern for housing is just what this instanced neighborhood is going to be like.... Is it just for my warband? That creates the same problem as what we had in Garrisons but... Is it open for first come first serve? This makes a new problem in that maybe I don't like my neighborhood anymore because some one holds a daily 'nightclub' experience that flood the instance.. I'd almost prefer it be just my warband so I can customize the entire neighborhood through all of my toons... put all my pandas over here, the trolls over there, tauren go here... etc etc etc

[@tahroo4262]

What I want to see done for new player experience is let players who choose to do so, take their vanilla classic level 60 toon and move it to the TBC classic server (bring at least three servers back), and when they're done with TBC they can move on to the WoLK classic servers... when they're done with that into Cata and so on. Otherwise destroy Chromie Time.. it's confusing to new players. Even to returning players, have you tried to get through shadowlands? Guess what... Chromie Time is broken in it if you wanna just skip the story for it and use Threads of Fate. You can't!

[@tahroo4262]

Also I want to see one major thing missing from their 'borrowing' of the system from FFXIV... A profession that gathers and uses LUMBER. Players need to be crafting furniture to sell to other players and we need woooood.

[@tahroo4262]

Oh good, the only my warband private neighborhood is an option? But 50 plots isn't enough because the player's roster is capped to 60... better get on that Blizzard.

[@wugypropuh7792]

I hope they bring bushcrafting and lumber mill profesion with player housing , so can we build houses...

[@LeahMichelle512]

I need that Sylvanas body pillow tho 😂

[@weirdodude1173]

Classic people are going to want housing once they see what it's like in retail. Thumbs up.

[@RexVenge95]

Hot take, but I want my DK's "house" to look like it came straight out of Torghast. Or at the very least make it look like Acherus but on the ground.

[@DarkScreamGames]

Yeah, it should have been Human, Orc, Night Elf, Undead themes, not just the 2. Unfortunately the next location after will almost certainly be Silvermoon.

[@Swoots275]

Wtf mayn why no song at the end

[@leonardceres9061]

If wow, wants to recapture the social aspect, they could just block all social communications while you’re playing. Wow unless it’s through wow itself I don’t feel like this would be realistic. They could potentially kill most add-ons. Which might help with other areas of the game.

[@John-df3lm]

I would be game for this. Not a fan of discord. Vent was fine because there were no other great voice options at the time and it was raid only use.

[@Gingerspice666]

I want a condo in a mage tower

[@suziewoo2820]

I want a house, but no neighbours 😂

[@jimstamper7062]

i want my house to have wheels and a transam up blocks out front

[@Barkebain]

I find it hard to believe anyone actually believes anything that Blizz's talking heads have to say. I can't get excited about any "new" features since Blizz can't be bothered to fix the bugs that have been in their UI for almost 6 months (eg auto-loot). You also need to re-read their announcement on player housing - "if a player wants a house in Azeroth, they can have a house in Azeroth" - it's the exact same to get a house where I live, but of course you need at least $50k real money up front for the cheapest ones, and well into six of even seven figures for the down payment on the more expensive ones. I would wager that housing will make the $90 AH mount look dirt cheap.

[@SoulSoBreezy]

It's healthy to be skeptical. It's less healthy to make stuff up and get mad over it

[@GodOfWar187]

Shame I have to wait for Eversong Woods/Silvermoon housing, because I have zero interest in living in Durotar. I have to assume the Elven zones are next given their popularity and just the fact of where Midnight takes place. At least Alliance gets Elwynn which is more aesthetically pleasing, so guess I'm going there to start.

[@John-df3lm]

Let’s hope the elves get priority, Suramar is a masterpiece.

[@Lisasimpsonfan]

I want forsaken housing

[@rated-r-goatstar4060]

seriosly all they need to look at is not ff housib but eq2, eq2 perfected player housing in 04

[@mike__taco]

All i have to say is, if my player housing kitchen cabinets don't go all the way to the ceilings, I'm unsubbing! /j

[@Draeganfire]

I'll be that extreme example of a home for each of my characters Soul!!!! Pick me!!!! lol....

[@ClaudiaS_]

Does it sound douchey to say “a mix of public and private neighborhoods sounds nice too, like having a private section for your guild/friends, but within a public neighborhood”? Like, trying to have it both ways?

[@SoulSoBreezy]

Not at all, I'd like to say. So imagine: Private neighborhood for you + friends but you can flag the other zones as "public." On the other end, people can either choose a house and let the game figure it out, or choose someone's private neighborhood (or be invited) and be subject to their rules and available slots.

[@ctk4949]

Im afraid Player Housing will just be a set it and forget it thing for me. I do not spend enough time in WoW to just hang around my house. I log on do the daily stuff or raid/delve/M+ and log off. lol

[@Craznar]

I've already given up on any hope of playing group content any more - been burned way too many times because of my disability. Solo all the way - but lots of stuff for me coming too. I still don't understand the idea of isolated housing, why not just run a housing simulator outside WoW ?

[@Ghust19]

I know it sounds obvious, but perhaps a more casual guild is the way? Once people know you, they are way more understanding

[@SoulSoBreezy]

Delves are pretty cool imo. Also saw on some social media post somewhere, a guild who got through normal nerub-ar and commenters were giving them lots of hype. I'm sure a team that suits you is out there, just want Blizzard to make better tools to help you find them.

[@marymckinnon5313]

I have MS and have clicking issues, and am also getting older, so I do not instance with other live people any more. (Thank you Blizz for follower dungeons!) Solo content all the way, and I am very much looking forward to housing. I do have a friend with a guild, and as my guild depopulated with people unsubbing I inherited my guild, we are hoping we can get a neighborhood together, even though we are not on the same server!

[@Craznar]

​@ Casual guilds die, and anything more has always had issue with my disability. I've tried for 20 years, and the answer is - solo is the only option left. Thankfully Blizzard has come to the party with a lot of solo stuff. One takes what one can get :)

[@annmccord9479]

I keep thinking of the Garrison. Lots of people had their own Garrison. I am sure it might be set up like that only we get to decorate it

[@d.j.9739]

Yo!

[@spunbearing]

Discord is a passing fad, its at its peak right now. I've used it for many different thing only to leave it all behind, because it becomes tedious and unproductive to go there for any reason. I don't see it having lasting power.

[@SoulSoBreezy]

Maybe, and they implied multiple commonly used platforms. Discord is the one I use so I stuck with that, and consider not all of em are made equal.

[@TheBrimfire]

social improvements?' remove community groups' make server count again like in classic' PVP or PVE realms all that stuff that forced you to interact play together and team up funny more people play nightelf and blood elves ...... ok lets get em humans and stikin orcs again -.-

[@John-df3lm]

Damn, what did Jake do to you. lol

[@SoulSoBreezy]

Funny enough I never met anyone who goes by Jake. That said he wronged me bad

[@tentenbits]

Spent many years organizing my EQ2 house.. very excited to get the chance to do it again in Azeroth.

[@timj11dude]

I feel ill, thinking about the community driven envy for certain plots in a neighbourhood. My guess will be you can choose a preferred "district" within a neighbourhood (i.e. beach, city or darkwoods etc) and your plot in that neighbourhood is randomized, I would think it follows that the plot location isn't fixed between logins either. At least with this method, it should be far easier for blizzard to balance out all the public neighbourhoods with player houses, either by stacking or by even distribution.

[@jarlemalmin]

Housing is at its start. It will get good as time goes on. All i want is a mission table inside my house! Give me!

[@clogs4956]

I have several garrisons and would love those to be updatable with practical new features, like an all-expansion crafting table. I don't need ingame housing. If I wanted to play EQ or FF, I would.

[@zpokie123]

is it just me that dont care at all about ho housing??

[@silasrobertshaw8122]

Rightfully seething? A bit overblown. This is the start. There will be more. If people do actually get mad cause they dont have their own racial housing, they need to smoke a doobie or takea xanax, or something. I want Ironforge housing, but I an't all bent out of shape about SW either.

[@Delfree77]

To much theory hopein leads to disappointment

[@SoulSoBreezy]

Too much cynicism just keeps one miserable the whole way through

[@jackbundy4788]

These player housing people won't be happy until there's a world of simcraft

[@themozARTgroupie]

A very great deal of interesting thoughts!! Honestly I am just glad I was never overly hyped for this feature, so I can't be disappointed by the limited (starting) selection now. I'll just see where this goes and enjoy it all the while! But I swear if I can't get my favorite plot of land... 😡😡

[@CipherOfIrenicus]

First ❤

[@ThinkCriticallyNow]

Do people really still play WoW?

[@isenhart2920]

I couldn't care less about more aesthetics and flavors added to the game like player housing, especially since it's so likely it's going to be instanced like garrisons. Know what I'd like to actually see? An update to movement, motions, actions, voice acting, emotes (instead of deleting them). I'd actually like to see the character build that piece of armor, not swing a tiny hammer in the air a few seconds. I'd like to see the npc talk to me and HAND me the quest item, not a wall of text that ends with (he hands you the thing.) The game is 20 years old - UPDATE IT.

[@DarkScreamGames]

So.... instead of a major gameplay feature, with years of content promised... you just want graphical updates? You think a crafting animation is more important than that? Good lord.

[@isenhart2920]

@@DarkScreamGames If you are able to read between the lines, you could see that this is just going to be another micro transaction goldmine. These cash grabs, IMO, detract from actual gameplay and development. I'm not saying that this content is unwelcome, but I am saying that this game's look and feel are extremely outdated and cheap-feeling. I just did a dungeon run where a big blue angelic type character ferried me around by grabbing my character like a limited motion action figure. Because the programmer's just thought to themselves, "why bother making an animation that looks better, just have him poof in the hand of this thing and dangle there until he gets to the next thing." It's lazy, corny, and kinda embarrassing. Since I think BFA, we got to see the "guy leaning on a wall" motion on some npcs, but not us? Brann does it all the time in Delves, in weird places. That was a new animation and added a little character and I want to see more of little things like that fleshed out. That's the kind of thing I'm talking about. Little fun stuff added here and there to inject more color into our online lives.

[@SoulSoBreezy]

How bout both? More specifically I'm of the mind that player housing is adding more to the game while it's also being updated as you suggest. 100% okay for us to scream for everything and leave devs to figure it out

[@isenhart2920]

@ That's fair. I just wish there was a few folks or a small team at Blizz that would also seek to enhance what's there now, and make it that much more immersive. I know most have gotten used to it, but I can't be the only one that wants to hear a quest giver share his plight, physically hand you the McGuffin you need to do the thing, and as you leave, he waves, and maybe you do too. We sort of see it in Diablo 4. But....we also see special animations behind paywalls aka battle passes. So we know they can do it, but will they ever do it without pay restrictions...? That's the only thing that worries me.

[@SoulSoBreezy]

D4 is simply a smaller game, less scope to deal with. Housing is already a massive, massive move by adding this new layer of collection - I often refer to the limitations of how we can express our rewards. But other aspects I try to champion include emotes and not just new animations, but additional animations. Like imagine adding a new kind of death rattle animation, new sitting postions etc. 90% of them should be somehow earned and I'd accept a handful being thrown up on the in game shop or trading post. Lots of potential and unfortunately only so many decisions to be made.

[@Neogeozz]

Crazy ppl care about housing when it’s lame asf

[@GabrielGarcia-pi3hn]

Hey everybody, point and laugh at the guy who still hasn't learned how to look at stuff from someone else's point of view! Learn to remove yourself from the confines of your own experiences and think about why someone would feel differently than you!! 😂😂😂

[@Neogeozz]

@ go please Barbie house dress up little boy

[@Dakotarain]

This will turn out to be a money maker for wow. Want a really nice house get out your credit card.