South Africa's Formula One Race (If It Happens) Has An Epic History // Kyalami Gran Prix Circuit

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@111safwat Ай бұрын

Once again, thank you for the professional presentation. The research hours paid off. I have seen many international videos on this topic but they somehow did not reach your levels of in-depth knowledge. Keep up the good work

@skadonkza Ай бұрын

Ag, Thank you 🙏

@111safwat Ай бұрын

Finances aside, my question has always beeen, Can you call yourself a World Championship if you dont compete all over the world? Missing out on an entire continent is criminal

@abpdev Ай бұрын

The logical answer is no, you cannot.

@BobyourUncle Ай бұрын

Or call yourself the ultimate racing class when you've got more rules and limitations than Singaporean prison. The true essence of formula 1 died a long time ago :(

@pieterrossouw8596 Ай бұрын

Antarctic F1 when?

@LittleBigMediaCo Ай бұрын

Considering they've run for 30yrs+ since their last visit, & no one except South Africans has even noticed, or questioned the validity of any of the championships, the answer is a definite "yes".

@ballardghost4805 Ай бұрын

No, but it won’t be in SA, probably Rwanda.

@Kholmi.28 Ай бұрын

This was so informative, the history covered here was brief, but precise. Great video. Cannot wait to see if we actually end up hosting in 2027.

@kcsaayman7145 24 күн бұрын

Really enjoy your videos. Thank you!

@Charlie-zg4fl 16 күн бұрын

Loved this so much! It’s a track I’ve always wanted to go too! I think F1 returning would be incredible! Some of the best content I’ve seen in a while

@quintinjansevanvuuren9638 Ай бұрын

I remember as a child I was at Kyalami often, I remember my first ever bee sting was on my lip here. Little bugger hid in a coke can. And I remember a guy in his racing leathers with his helmet still on waved at me from the pits while there was bike racing happening. I also remember seeing an old Williams in the pits one day. There's tons of memories I have as a boy at Kyalami. I would absolutely love to see it re-invigourated.

@davismotorsZA Ай бұрын

I love how I learn about the history of whatever product you showing us, much appreciated 🙌🏾🙌🏾

@SilverGas147 Ай бұрын

Amazing video and We appreciate the research.

@skadonkza Ай бұрын

Thanks so much 😊

@blxk_child Ай бұрын

Loving this channel man. These are stories really worth knowing. Can't wait for the episode on Jody Sheckter

@rfh9 Ай бұрын

Yoh i love this vid thx

@jancovanderwesthuizen8070 Ай бұрын

Retrospectively, the Rand was 100% correct to tank with the ANC takeover

@PhakimpiDubois-rf8bz Ай бұрын

the economy has been doing much better since the troubles of the late 80s and 90, exchange rate doesn't tell the full story, many countries have a much weaker currency compared to the rand but much stronger economies.

@farrel13sw Ай бұрын

Well there were some bad policies from the anc. Just read about 14 February 1996 on why the rand tanked. The destruction of the manufacturing sector didn’t help the economy either.

@simonzulu7054 Ай бұрын

you present well. The whole of Africa will flock to sa if this comes up.

@spy2sa54 Ай бұрын

great video man

@nebulanationmedia 24 күн бұрын

I can see the light at the end of the Tunnel

@GaryHerbert-g5g Ай бұрын

I attended that very 1st GP in 1967 at all of 3 years old. My Dad became a volunteer time keeper for Ferrari for both the GP's & the 9 hours, so my early years were spent in the pipits with him at all of those events, until 1977. I was in utero on the 21st of December 1962, when he & my mother arrived at Westmead in Durban, for practice of the final GP of the season, to discover that Gary Hocking had just been killed. I was at Kyalami in 74 when Peter Revson was killed in practice & in 77 when Tom Pryce was killed right in front of me during the race. In those days, all the drivers & crew stayed at the Kyalami Ranch Motel & we would always go there after the race, where the drivers were easily accessible, not like today. Thankfully I have vivid memories of those days & the cars & drivers that I saw, for which I still have an interest 57 years later.

@impulse_guy_22 Ай бұрын

f1 at kyalami is magic, I remember in 93 how they managed to sell a R2 tin for coke for R18! Hotdogs were R25. because of all the international money, the whole thing was almost totally inaccessible to local money. Bring back the delivery bike 2hr races!

@LittleBigMediaCo Ай бұрын

100% Spoken like a man with actual experience of what it means to have an F1 race. No doubt you also sat in the sun / rain on open stands and could see no more than a few hundred meters of the circuit. Sadly local motorsport is in a shocking state.

@impulse_guy_22 Ай бұрын

@@LittleBigMediaCo yes...just to clarify, I dont doubt it'll be a "good thing" for the country to get our name in lights again. I'm not a doomonger, just a realist that knows and sees capitalism's ugly side too often

@LittleBigMediaCo Ай бұрын

@@impulse_guy_22 I was knee deep in it the last time F1 came to Kyalami, involved in Group N racing ... so was excited to have F1 back, having been to every GP / 9Hr / Sportscar / GrandPrix bikes / etc at the old circuit since the mid 70's. Turned out we couldn't even get preferential tickets so had to buy just like Joe Public. Then we got messages from supplier after supplier that they would no longer be able to support Group N privateers with brakes, plugs, fuel and lubricants, safetywear, etc because they would be spending their motorsport budget entertaining VIP's at the GP instead. So eventually on race weekend, we parked and walked miles, before luckily having someone we knew from AMG stop in a VIP shuttle and run us in to our stand. the VIP' in the shuttle with us had never even been to Kyalami before. Didn't know what f1 was. But they were (literally) eating up our Group N racing budget. And then as you say, ridiculous prices for everything, queues for portable toilets (which no one could use by Sunday because they were overflowing down the road we would have to walk on when leaving. Complete mess. Since 93, I've been to a bunch of F1 events around European circuits. Far better way to watch the racing live.

@h-j.k.8971 Ай бұрын

Yep!

@guy_daimond Ай бұрын

This channel has got the wrong name, its definitely not a skedonk its next level ❤

@skadonkza Ай бұрын

Nah we all love our Skadonks 😄

@CameronGreenwoodCramp 22 күн бұрын

Hi Skadonk, My name is Cameron Greenwood Cramp AKA CGC. I'm an Aussie. I'm almost 28 years old. I was born on February 6 1997. I live in Melbourne in Australia AKA the land down under. I am the biggest fan of IMSA and the WEC in the land down under too. I've been into IMSA for 21 years now. And I love it. It's actually my favourite motorsport nowadays along with the World Endurance Championship AKA WEC and MotoGP & the 24 Hours Of Le Mans. Back in the day, I used to be into all motorsports, but not anymore. It's been like that for the last 12 years also. My favourite IMSA season is every single one of them. From the classic original IMSA from 1971 to 1998 and new IMSA from 2014 onwards. My favourite races in IMSA are the Daytona 24 Hours, the 12 Hours Of Sebring and of course the Watkins Glen 6 Hour held at The Glen. My favourite World Endurance Championship or WEC for short is every single one from 2012 to present day. 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@LittleBigMediaCo 19 күн бұрын

Who cares?

@robinboyes8749 7 күн бұрын

SA GP first held at the Prince George Circuit in East London from 1934 to 1966. Circuit was a 24,4 Km road circuit, shortened to 17,7 Km in 1936. The permanent circuit was built in 1959. The first F1 World Championship took place there on 29 December 1962. Kyalami was built in the early 60's and had it's first F1 GP in 1967. The "old circuit" certainly had it's magic, along with "zillions" of spectators. The new circuit lacks a "proper straight" and thus with today's cars, overtaking is "Monaco like". I did not see hordes of spectators at recent 3/9 hour..........

@Targeting-Must-End Ай бұрын

Where do you get this SUFFER Bafana Shirt? A little retro design.

@sibonelodlomo6515 Ай бұрын

My concern with F1 coming to SA besides the fact that it will be stupid expensive for south africans to attend, is the direction the track will take after that. Will companies like Wesbank for festival of motoring or BMW , and other concert makers like dstv still be able to "afford" a grade 1 international track afterwards because these are the events that ordinary south africans can go to and experience the track

@alexstockl2843 Ай бұрын

The big concern is the ANC seeing F1 in RSA as an opportunity to implement their notorious tenders and steal, kind of like what happened in 2010 with the fifa world cup.

@AwkwardLeon69420 Ай бұрын

This year is a lot different. There is actual investment and Government support

@LittleBigMediaCo Ай бұрын

No there is NOT. Gayton only opens his mouth to make empty promises that he can never deliver on. Like when he was going to make all rugby tests free for everyone on SABC, or PSL matches ... or when he was going to pay back the parents of Olympic medal winners to funded their journey to success. And he never delivers on his groot bek promises. Also, nobody in South Africa has a R5 billion bond to put down as a promoter for the race contract. And government will never get away with that without riots in the streets for wasting taxpayer money.

@bhekemsenidladla3202 Ай бұрын

That's what I heard plus they are trying to impress for votes so they kinda have to

@chrismusonza5387 Ай бұрын

The hosting fee is still the stickler no one has come forward to put that down yet

@LittleBigMediaCo Ай бұрын

@@chrismusonza5387 And is unlikely to because of the eye watering amount & unstable Rand.

@ighsaanlenders942 Ай бұрын

One thing I've read about F1.... Tickets are extremely expensive; the entire circus basically is. I mean I'd love to have it here and attend, but financially it won't be possible for me. And I'm i won't be the only South African. They have to maintain the track and have races there... Local and international. Whether F1 comes back or not is 🤷🏽

@itswednsdaymedudes4848 Ай бұрын

don't forget about the promo vid that red bull did on kaylami with i think their 2018 f1 car whether that means it can withstand f1 cars yet or if that is just apart of the fia 2 (historic cars) or just a once possibility idk but it worth looking at. i think McKenzie is dedicated to doing big flashy sports events for people to notice him so f1 would be his prized jewel imagine how is campaigning would be for him in the next election saying that he brought f1 to sa so on the political side i think we covered.

@styre 22 күн бұрын

Brother, what car is Joule? I know the rest

@refilwebilly2640 22 күн бұрын

i said this to my friends and they thought i was joking.... Its all fun and games until the tickets are one million Rand

@ofentse2010 Ай бұрын

Well researched

@tylerjackson3040 Ай бұрын

🏁

@LittleBigMediaCo Ай бұрын

Seriously guy ... the LAST thing South Africa needs is a F1 GP. Firstly, the last time it happened, hundreds of millions of taxpayer money was stolen and wasted because of BS lies about it's benefit to the country. And the person who ended up with most of that money never saw a day in jail ... instead he just moved on to promoting another sport where he could use government connections to line his pockets ... golf, although he did pop back into motorsport to pull the same stunt with World Superbike racing, who also cancelled long before the end of the contract and washed their hands of South Africa. Secondly, NO ONE in F1 wants a F1 GP here, no matter what they say. What they want is HUGE race fees and / or leverage to use to force other circuits to pay even higher fees to retain their races for fear of losing them to South Africa - exactly what happened last year when suddenly FOM people were flying to SA for meetings about an imminent race. (all while in the middle of intense negotiations with Circuit Spa about their renewal. Spa fell for the ruse, paid big money, and suddenly the SA GP was off. Thirdly ... those fees. There is zero chance that the hosting fee will be less than $50million. In fact, I'll guarantee it'll be as near as bang on $60 million, given what the recent contracts have been. So put that into Rands. R1.08 Billion!!!! Just for the hosting fee. For a 4 day event. And 90%+ of that money leaves South Africa for the now US owners of F1 who share some of t with the teams. Then there are circuit modifications at R180 million that need to be recovered from the promoter, over and above the circuit rental. The promoter then needs to setup the circuit for the race with additional portable stands, ablutions, security, parking & access, media facilities, etc. So all in the promoter will need to spend somewhere north of R5.5 billion over a 5 year race contract. And remember that the contract requires the FOM be given a BLANK circuit, because they have already sold all the advertising on it, of which not a cent goes to the local promoter. The only spare space is for an event title sponsor, which they will sometimes bring to the party, but take and even bigger chunk of that than any promoter might. Fourth. Do the maths. Even if they find a way to accommodate 100k people at the circuit, and convince everyone to buy a 3 day pass ... that's 5.5 billion divided by 500k = R11000 per person. Even if they weight the tickets with Gold, Silver, Bronze packages, AND they get an international title sponsor, the Bronze ticket will cost no less than R5000, with a Silver in the region of R8000, and Gold about R12000, and VIP tickets in the R25K bracket. If you think I'm talking BS, just look at the prices of more recently added races, like Miami (who will be on a similar hosting fee). Miami general access tickets are $1000, or R18k. Fifth, and probably the BIGGEST reason we do not WANT a F1 race here, are the Gold and VIP prices mentioned above. South Africa is a small automotive market relative to other places. But, local manufacturers / branches / agencies for international brands, all have local marketing budgets, and most have some sort of motorsport budgets. Often those aren't huge, but they do allow Champion or NGK plugs, Ferodo brakes, Castrol lubricants, Bridgestone tyres etc to support a fairly large number of local competitors by supplying product in turn for some advertising on their vehicles. Now we get an F1 race ... the CEO's decide that money is better spent inviting VIP guests (most of whom have never been to a local race or even know what F1 is) to the F1 weekend at R25k per person. That's the entire motorsport and most of the marketing budget blown, so now local competitors have to buy all their product, which eliminated many of them. Culled for a 4 day F1 race that brings ZERO new race fans to local motorsport. And finally there is the event If you and your mate paid your R10k for two of the cheap seats, you will sit on a metal bench seat in hot sun / afternoon rain, you will stand in queues for toilets and food and drink - where you can expect to probably pay R30+ for a can of Coke and R120 for a boerie roll. You will need to rely on park and rides, probably costing you another R200+. Now, do you really think there are 100K people in South Africa who can and will pay between R6k & R14k per person to watch a race that's on TV live anyway, or costs a few dollars to watch live on F1TV?

@KgomotsoJacobNkagisang Ай бұрын

In 2021 FIA WEC should have came back to SOUTH AFRICA the excuse was covit 19 i think it should come back in redemption of 2021 before F1which means F1 in 2027 WEC 2026/2025

@ChrisSuperTube 13 күн бұрын

Who here was at the last one?

@ultroy-motorslimitedlnc Ай бұрын

LSM was originally more than willing to fianace the track the problem is your precious government snd the dreadful FIA not being serious.All I'm going to say is thank not only LSM but it's customers aswell.So to the people who think we are snobs were also motorist.